So i'm in a weird situation, Was doing a photoshoot with a model I use frequently, after editing and sending her the pictures I picked out of the litter she asked me to send her some other pics that I also did that didn't turn out as well as I wanted them to. I refused on the basis that they look like shit, they are boring and they are way too sexual for my liking. (Yea yea I know but im not a pornographer, oversexualized boring pictures annoy the fuck out of me)Now she is bitching about it and i'm kind of curious if i'm being the asshole in this situation.What do?
Stop responding to the model and move on? Who cares what she wants, you've done the job and sent her the keepers so you can move on to the next job. If you've completed work with her then other models will be willing to work with you as you now have a portfolio. Unless the model is your close friend or your sister, someone you'll see a lot, who gives a shit what they think? It's not up to them to own every photo of them ever taken.
send her more photos that won't ruin your reputation and tell her it's everything you have. then, move on.
post the sexual pictures here
>>3466357Sadly she is a friend, still I don't think I will be sending her the other pics.
Can you post the pictures ? At least the good ones.
Tell her it's your job to keep a reputation and a certain image, and those bad pictures could damage it. But that's going too far already, your material your rules, the end.
Well considering that you legally own the photos she can suck a fat dick. I don't know what it is with cheap local "models" who want every single photo of them as though they are all good. Tell her to back off because you are doing you both a favor. Tell her that it's not how youv decided you want to present yourself. She can't legally touch you because you own them and there was no legal agreements
Did you take 500 pictures and sent her two?
>>3466363You made the mistake of telling her that they were "boring" and "way too sexual". Do not EVER say that. Always say they didn't come out, they aren't good enough, they didn't make the cut, etc. Now she is going to want to decide for herself. Bad call, dude. If she's that tight of a friend, invite her over to look through them with you if you want, but don't promise her anything. And yes, keep the ones you don't like and move the hell on. She needs to learn, if she's going to model, that this is how the work goes.
>>3466355You should have just told her you deleted them because they weren't up to snuff.
>>3466355You took photos of a friend, she wants to see them and you're refusing to let her have them. You're the asshole here OP.
>>3466355>"model"You mean random dumb bitch feeding the hypergamy game?
>>3466511>"model"Or random dumb bitch that's a 6/10 that posts these on FB/Insta and thinks she's a 9 because every thumb dick and faggot liked her pictures.You're literally the fucking radiation causing cancer in this world, asshole.
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>>3466507>You took photos of a friendwhere does he say this?
>>3466520See>>3466363>Sadly she is a friend
>>3466527My bad. I'm sure the difference between what op thinks is good and bad is probably nothing, he should just give them to her. Just the fact that this is even an issue makes me think the work couldn't have been professional quality anyway
>>3466528Exactly. One thing I've learned from photography is that even if photographer doesn't like the pictures they took, the person/customer in them still has the right to have them. OP withholding them from not only a subject of the pictures but a personal friend is just bizarre.
>>3466530especially assuming she didn't charge him for her time, kind of a dick move if she doesn't get her half of the deal
Post the damn other pics
>>3466507this. also, as long as they're technically good (in focus, proper exposure, etc) who fucking cares? I bet you money that there's probably some legitimately good photographs in the batch you decided not to give her. we all get tunnel vision when it comes to our own work and NEED some outside critique from time to time.
>>3466355As far as I am aware, it's you who owns the photos. Sure, you can't use them without her consent, but it's still you who decides what goes out and what stays. Unfortunatelly many people have their own mind when it comes to quality of photography and even less people understand that it's you as photographer and the way you take pictures what they should want, not just someone that presses the shutter.I'd suggest you meet with your friend and try to explain that it's your work and pictures represent you just as they do represent her. Releasing photos you aren't happy with would damage you as photographer but also they would. Try to offer her that you would take more photos of her as compensation so both of you are happy.
>>3466580>>3466531>>3466530>>3466528>>3466507betas>>3466355A "friend" should respect your choices, tell her to get fucked.
>>3466355Send them all with something like exposure +1, so they'll look even worse. Bitches gona bitch, but there's no point escalating stuff like that.
>>3466951>meme arrowing anything from that ancient pasta
>>3466355They are your photos, not hers. You are well within your rights. From now on, just tell people you delete the ones that don't make the cut.
>>3466935and add a slight blur so they all look out of focus
>>3466922A "friend" should hold up his end of the bargain
You give them the photos. If they want to use them for anything they have to pay extra for the edits as it represents more time from you.You instruct them to avoid getting credit for the photos unless they are absolutely pushed to. Women love to post photos without having to waste space in the caption or whatever for the credit anyway. Everyone wins.
>>3466355>they are way too sexual for my likingHow can they be too sexual if you're the one that directed her?
>>3467597she voluntarily showed her feet
This is why you always write up a contract that includes how many photos you will deliver.
This problem is easily avoidable if you make sure not to show most pictures to the model during the process, and if/when she asks for more once you've delivered you simply tell her that the other pictures were really trash or that you wiped the memory card. As some other anon pointed out, your explanations were too subjective and I assume you weren't very assertive when communicating, so she doesn't believe you and want to see for herself.But since the damage is already done: you could always share some with her but specifically request that she does not publish them, since it could damage your portfolio. If she does, then she's the asshole and you probably should avoid working with her in the future. Either way, you've learned your lesson now and this situation should not arise in the future.
Should never have a model bitching about you, but I doubt this story is real
>>3466355Post the pics maybe?
Next time you do a photoshoot, put a limit on the photos she will receive. "You will receive up to 10 edited photos" she agrees. Thant's it. But for now, Give her the photos. If you think they're too sexual, you might wanna post them here, and the community can let you know if they work or not. Don't just refuse to give them to her. Post the pics, and also give them to her. Maybe it's you that doesn't like them, but the photos might be actually good. POST THEM ALL.
If the model was doing you a favor by posing for your portfolio, do her a favor by giving her the photos she wants for her portfolio. If you're paying her, don't.
Was this a paid for professional model or just a friend that offered her time?
>>3466355>>3470447>>3470409I think I know why op won't post the pics.The model was under age and the pics are suggestive and could make him look like a pedo.I'd delete that shit and move on.
Lmao I know this model.
>>3466355Why not post the lewd shots here?
>>3467691>feet>oversexualIm sorry my guy but it looks like youre the one with the wierd fetish
>>3467691>she voluntarily showed her feetAre you from Qatar or something?
>>3466530>even if photographer doesn't like the pictures they took, the person/customer in them still has the right to have themlol nope, not unless she paid.
>>3467691>she voluntarily showed her feetPost them for my sake pls .
>>3466355you're not being an asshole but you're being an idiot
>>3475221Did you seriously bring this thread back from the dead?
>>3466355>What do?Contractual agreements in the future.Thats what do.
>>3466355You're the asshole. Send her the photos.
Blackmail her for nudes
Invite her for a coffee and take your laptop. Show her the photos and explain what you don't like about them, how they aren't characteristic of your style etc. If she wants them, offer her the photos for personal use but ask her to agree not to post online. To be honest anon, this is what you get for A. Taking smutty photos of B. Tfp models who aren't professional and don't abide by any industry etiquettes. You were cheap and probably wanted to fuck her, this is the consequence. Also protip: don't comment on photos you are withholding, curiosity kills the cat, just send over what you are happy with.
Post the pics here you incel
>>3466355>they are way too sexual for my likingYou took them. Idiot.>Now she is bitching about it and i'm kind of curious if i'm being the asshole in this situation.You're the asshole in the situation.>What do?Show her the pictures.
>>3466355how are you so very sure you picked the best of the bunch.
>>3466355do what she says. dont burn a bridge and future potential work because you are being an autistic cunt.
>>3466355if theyre sexual she might think youre keeping them for fap material. also>>3466461thisso now you gotta>>3476188
>>3466355Who is the girl in the OP?
>>3466530I series is good as the worst picture in it. Better to have less and top quality pictures going around.
>>3481527I swear to god if I had mod powers I'd ban your ass for keeping these shit threads alive.
>>3470409> If you think they're too sexual, you might wanna post them here, and the community can let you know if they work or not.> Post the pics, and also give them to her.> POST THEM ALL. Underr8ed post.
>>3475221this.OP just send her the flat as fuck unedited versions of the pics if they arent flat as fuck, ruin them to make it look like you never lifted a finger to try editing them.blah blah blah women are vain and want 5 trillion pictures of themselves just give her the fucking pictures so she’ll shut up. Its better for her to have shitty pics for her personal collection than have her go around spreading drama about you because that is 10000% what women will do.
>>3467691wtf op PLEASE post them now
>>3466355>friendif this is true and you really don't want to be associated with the pictures, explain to her why you have to take the photos you distribute carefully for the sake of your (professional?) reputation. What was so bad about them anyway? You don't have to post them but what went too far for you?