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Is porn art?
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How has Terry survived the #MeToo movement?
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>>3446804
>How has Terry survived the #MeToo movement?
The fuck are you talking about? As of a couple of years ago, he's basically been blackballed from working with any major publication, and he's currently under investigation for sexual assault by the NYPD.

>>3446796
>Is porn art?
Yes.
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>>3446796
yes
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>>3446807
I thought he would be in jail by now with all the photos (evidence) that probably exists
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>>3446851
One of the issues with that sort of assault is that it’s really hard to prove to the standard required by a court of law.

And in fact, the sort of assault he’s being accused of may not even technically be illegal. There’s a vast gray area between “this guy can be locked up for rape” and “this guy is a piece of shit”.
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>>3446796
no
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>>3446847
based
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>>3446847
vile
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Is a urinal art? Is a blank canvas art? Is a can labeled “artist’s shit” art? How many times must this dumb question be asked? Board of plebs.
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ofc porn cannot be art. it lacks its cathartic disposition as well as its intermediate synthesis and therefore simply copies the desired entity without exalting (or subliming) any cultural or orherwise repressed drive or likewise derivates.
but art can be pornographic, though. there's a difference.
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Art is the communication of a unique perception for the sake of further contemplation.

Pornographys primary and defining purpose is sexual stimulation, it is designed with no embellishments, nothing extraordinary or unexpected. It is a tool to get you off. Art must bear the suggestion of the creator. Without that, art is void.
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>>3446893
This post? Art.
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>>3446893
>Is a urinal art?
Yes. Duchamp was commenting on the academies stuffy traditionalism and appealing for a wider definition of art.
>Is a blank canvas art?
Yes, Kazimir Malevich and Robert Ryman both thought that blank canvases and monochromatic fields were evocative of feelings.
>Is a can labeled “artist’s shit” art?
Manzoni was making a deliberately provocative statement about art in the same vein as Duchamp concerning what is defined as art. His piece communicates that shocking or unpleasant content does not exclude a work from being art. Not all art is beautiful.
>How many times must this dumb question be asked?
Until postmodernism goes away and we can return to modernisms experimental beauty.
>Board of plebs.
Always and forever.
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>>3446913
based Burt btfo'ing irrelevant boomer retard
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Can you wank off to art?
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>>3446796
Is square always a rectangle? Is a rectangle always a square?
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>>3447043
Not according to those museum guards and the judge who totally took their side without even really grasping the nuance of my argument.
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>>3446913
lol remember when you worked at the front desk of a gallery
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>>3447085
Society just isn't ready to grasp your nuance. Especially in a public place.
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>>3446913
Thanks for typing the long version

>>3446920
Nigger, you’re too dumb to understand we’re agreeing, memes have melted your brain
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>>3447089
rsim is that you?
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>>3447118
oh you were agreeing lmao. you wrote in very gay manner desu. anyone with single digit iq can tell that it sound like a sarcastic reply.
"is" isn't yes my gay.
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>>3446913
Ryman's canvasses weren't blank, and he didn't do field paintings.
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>>3447043
In rehab it's all I had.
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The question becomes: is the pornographer an artist? And, furthermore, is Uncle Terry a pornographer?

I say that the pornographer can be an artist but it is not necessary (cf. all the east european factory porn), but also that Terry is no pornographer.
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the guy in op's pic looks like Joseph Seed
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>>3447252
verging on semantics, wheels spinning on its edge, but technically correct
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>>3447266
>the guy
THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF THIS BOARD
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>>3447266
looks like a right sicko whoever he is
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>>3446796
Imagine fucking COLOMBIAN hookers while binging on coke, meth and every other kind of degeneracy known to men and being considered a visionary for taking photos at the time.
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>>3447276
Semantics is the stuff of criticism, old boy.
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>>3447368
And jesus wept
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>>3447369
>jesus
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>>3446796
Porn is not art but some art is porn.
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>>3446796
>Is porn art?
Just look at any BLACKED scene.
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>>3447590
Xart had good production value back in the day too
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>>3446913
>>3446920
>Yes. Duchamp was commenting on the academies stuffy traditionalism and appealing for a wider definition of art.
Oh no, it's retarded.
https://youtu.be/bHw4MMEnmpc?t=373
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>>3446804
because the jews worship his level of degeneracy
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>>3446796
The definition of pornography is literally ' sexually explicit writing, images of film whose only purpose is sexual arousal and has no artistic merit' so categorically, no. Porn is the worst thing that ever happened to the world. Future civilizations will talk about it in the way we talk about Rome's lead pipes and conversion to Christianity. Every single person behind the industry has the main aim of subverting and destroying the wills of individuals and then the fabric of society as a whole.
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>>3446913
Everything is art, cool, every shit I take is a piece of art, a child's scribblings are equal in worth to the masters of renaissance and enlightenment and fuck you for saying otherwise. Nothing is real, everything is anything you want it to be. It's really super smart to just break down meanings until nothing has any. Bravo, you've participated in the post-modernist fracturing of the greatest civilization that ever existed.
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>>3447748
Scruton is a boss. Ironically one of the only real radicals left in the art world because he dares to say that the emperor has no clothes.
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>>3447725
at least it's not BLACKEDJPEG *dab*
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>>3447762
Everything can be art ≠ everything is art
Go back to your corner, pleb.
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>>3447775
Okay, I'll make sure to bless my turds with a signature then. Then they're magically art.
"Not all art is beautiful" and not all biology concerns life, not all cooking makes food. You people are ruining the world, your snobbishness (entirely undeserved, but I digress) doesn't save you from that. But go ahead, keep believing you're the smartest man on the sinking ship, your big fat marvelous patrician brain tastes the same to the fishes.
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Fuck, I remember when I used to think like this retard back in college.
>>3447775
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>>3447779
>now I realize that the one thing that really defines the whole sphere art is rigid, formal rules that must never be broken. There are certain categories of things that can be Art, not all of those the things even in those categories can be Art, and anything that doesn’t fit those extremely narrow definitions simply isn’t art.
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>>3447780
Now you get it. Welcome to adulthood.
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>>3447778
>>3447779
>>3447781
All you are hating but you wish you thought of it first I'm just out there doing what I love and you're here hating what does that say about you? What does it say about me?

All I do is come to look at other people's work and post gentle words of encouragement not just rage shit on anything that falls outside of the fold.

All you care about is posting stupid tumblr esthetic regurgitated crap and jerk each other off over film.

But think about this do you love photography or just ganging up on people for no reason and just looking all smirk I noticed none of you are published. I wonder.

Have any of you been published in gallery? I have.

Have any of you been featured on 500px front page? I have.

Have any of you sold a print at all? Have your works been featured in a popular public gallery? I have.

Can any of you use the zoning system to get a perfect exposure out of the cam w no process? I can.

Can any of you make a pinhole camera from scratch then process the film and enlarge it and make prints?

Are you fucking kidding me? You think I don't know I will get some flak when pushing the boundaries of what photography stands for?
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>>3447829
Based Chosis7!
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>>3446804
he hasn't
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photography is not art
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>>3447829
Finally. Someone other than myself posts this pasta.
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>>3446804
He didn't he got blacklisted by Conde Nast
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>>3447748
this still does not convince me as the urinal took skill to make and has interesting curves.
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>>3448355
Noice
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Uncle Terry hasn't done anything as awful as what the former editor of Shutterbug magazine, Bob shell, already did. For those who don't remember, Bob shell was doing bondage photographs with a drug-addicted model and due to his negligence accidentally killed her. Material is a scumbag to don't get me wrong you should be taken out behind the film Shack in the mall and beaten with a lead pipe on his legs until he gets the idea he's a scumbag to
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>>3446796
Never.
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>>3449183
You ever read about his trial tho? The 'photography expert' they brought in who said you couldnt read exif data without downloading a super-special program from canon, (that he was given specially for the murder case by a canon rep who later couldnt be identified or found). Also that the time on the exif were wrong, (expert said they couldnt be) because the time/date on the guys camera wasn't set. And finally the coroner who testified that the girl was dead in the last pictures because the rope marks on her skin (from tight ropes pinching for several hours) hadnt faded within 35mins or something. Not to mention the same coroner had given expert opinion on 2 other cases that were later over-ruled by better experts apparently.
The Bob Shell guy is definitely a scumbag, but holy shit the entire trial was a mockery. It was the first time I realized how bad the US justice system is, followed a couple of years later in my area with the Kids For Cash scandal. Made me pray I never end up in front of an American judge.
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>>3447725

lol, what the fuck is this from? BLACKEDcon?
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>>3446851
evidence of what? when he does these shoots the model sign contracts showing whats in the shoot and they consent to it.
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>>3449870
not exactly
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>>3449908
not exactly in what way? He was a huge photographer and he had girls lining up for shoots. The majority knew what was going to happen there.

if they didn't sign explicit contracts that showed what would happen and release forms after, then all the models shouting abuse would have a case and could jail him. Terry was a huge photographer and I'm sure he knew the legal side of it
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>>3449949
The release probably had info like "Photographer will take pictures and copyright will be assigned to whoever". The release probably did NOT have a clause like "Photographer will whip out Lil' Uncle Terry and he and his assistant will peer-pressure you into letting him rest it on your eye".
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>>3449950
I'm pretty sure for a high profile photographer they have contracts showing exactly what will happen. especially for a guy that made straight up porn. If he didn't, it would be super easy for a model to say he raped them on shoot. There would proof right there with the photos released on the internet.

That's the only reason he isn't in jail. It would be a clear case, just ask any lawyer
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>>3449949
They did not sign release forms saying that he would jerk off and cum in their eyes, choke them, etc.
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>>3447371
Try dat
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>>3447748
urinal is shitposting 80 years before shitposting ever existed
that is the greatest art art piece of all time
its has been btfo'ing sub-humans like you since its existing.

shut the fuck up suck my cock you fucking pleb



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