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FUJI BTFO THE FUCK OUT!

Is the xt3 really just an old model of the a6500 or is it just comparable to older gen Sony Cameras?
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>>3429933
fucking kill yourself what a shit thread
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>>3429938
fuji-boi detected
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Amazon is dabbing all over Fujifilm they are /sony'sguys/ now.
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Anybody actually use an X-T3?
Been looking into maybe buying one but it's hard to get an opinion that doesn't come with a spoonful of fanboyism.
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>>3430314
I do, its a very good camera and is worth it just for the lenses you have access too. Slight learning curve to the fuji system and workflow but I honestly pick it over my "professional gear " most of the time.
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>>3430314
I haven’t used an xt3, but I’ve used an xt1 and a shitload of other different brands of cameras.

Get the xt3; you’ll be happy with it. The reason Fuji fanboys are so fanboyish is because they genuinely enjoy taking pictures with their cameras.

(Personally, I prefer my canon, but Fuji cameras are pretty great)
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>>3430314
yes

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>>3430321
the xt3 is made in china. don't buy that piece of shit
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>>3430332
wow this looks gorgeous, i wish it would've been edited differently though
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>>3430358
Basically everything is made in China nowadays. Don’t confuse the products that companies have manufactured in China because it’s the best place in the world for manufacturing with products that Chinese companies flood the market with because they know most people won’t know the difference between a $1500 device and a $15 device until after they’ve paid their $15.
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>>3430321
What Canon are you using?
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>>3430518
A large part of Sony, Panasonic's, Sigma, Nikon, and Canon's professional line-up is made in Japan. MIJ and build quality was the primary attraction of Fujifilm cameras up until this point. They're getting greedy.
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>>3430554
Again, outsourcing manufacturing to China doesn’t mean a lower build quality.
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>>3430318
>and is worth it just for the lenses you have access
Except Fuji makes the worst lenses.
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>>3429933
>Fuji Blown the fuck out Fuji Blow the fuck out the fuck out
Did you have a stroke?
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>>3430570
>Did you have a stroke?
It would seem you have had one as well
"Fuji BTFOFBTFO the fuck out"
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>>3430332
nice. is this your first camera in fuji system or did you upgrade? Thinking of upgrading from x-t2 but not sure if its all worth it if i dont shoot video.
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>>3430554
x-h2 will still be made in japan as their flagship camera. As will their top lenses.
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>>3430566
It does. No one is going to fork over $4k for a Leica made in Shenzhen. The build quality and components will almost certainly be inferior when manufacturing is outsourced to a third-world country.
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>>3430582
I thought their lenses were made in the Philippines with the budget ones being made in China?
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>>3430588
i have four Fuji lenses, 3 of them are made in Japan, one in Philippines
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>>3430586
No, it doesn’t.

You CAN make cheap shit in China, but you can also make high quality shit in China. There’s nothing intrinsic about China that means low quality. They’re just a country that currently has the world’s best supply chain and manufacturing resources.

> No one is going to fork over $4k for a Leica made in Shenzhen
Yeah, because of blind idiot prejudice. People freaked out when Leica started building cameras in Canada, which certainly isn’t a third-world country. If Leica could outsource a design to China they could make an M that costs $2000 which would be just as good as their $8000 German models but wouldn’t sell.

Have you seen any indication that the X-T3 is actually lower quality than the X-T2?
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>>3430597
I'm certainly not going to take both cameras apart to do a comparison, nor have I felt the latter camera in hand, but experience has taught me to stray from Chinese manufacturing as much as possible. It's not blind idiot prejudice, it's common sense. I'm sure they make quality products, I've certainly seen some good optics come from China, but I suspect Fuji isn't outsourcing to improve their supply chain yada yada, etc. They're moving to China and the Philippines to make a quick buck. I doubt the XT3 will stand the test of time like my older Fuji cameras have.
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>>3430609
>experience has taught me to stray from Chinese manufacturing as much as possible.
More likely, you’ve encountered some crappy poorly-made Chinese shit and remembered it and never check any of your well-made stuff to see where it was made.
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>>3430618
More likely: You're projecting your own insecurities over having forked over serious coin for some substandard Chinese camera when there were obviously better alternatives made to a higher quality standard. The truth hurts, friend. Next time try to show some foresight before you gearwhore.
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>>3430619
>You're projecting your own insecurities over having forked over serious coin for some substandard Chinese camera when there were obviously better alternatives
Nope.

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>>3430609
>but experience has taught me to stray from Chinese manufacturing as much as possible. It's not blind idiot prejudice, it's common sense.
Yeah, this is actually because of the way westerners and Chinese do business.

A westerner will try pressure as much as he can for the lowest price for a given manufacturing quality, usually asking for something that’s not feasible.
A western manufacturer would tell him that it can’t be done, and that’s it.
A Chinese manufacturer will say ok, sign the contract and deliver less than agreed quality, what can be done for the price.

The westerners would be outraged, because he got a product which is of lesser quality than agreed, even though what was agreed was infeasible.
But for the Chinese that’s fine, because he didn’t *actually* cheat, in the end he delivered what he was paid for, even if the contract asked for something better.

The western way of doing business is to keep the contract to the letter, no matter what the contract says.
The Chinese way is to give you what you paid for, regardless what te contract says.

In the end, you can get a huge spectrum of quality in China, all the way to the very highest end. But if you try to “cheat” by pressing for a deal that’s too good to be true, to you’ll be the one to get “cheated” and you’ll get just what you paid for.
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>>3430512
Here I like this one better, just couldnt find it quickly/conveniently at the time

>>3430581
I upgraded from X-T1. Im soo happy i made the upgrade as the colors of the 3 pop even more than I could ever get out of the 1

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>>3430586
>>3430554
Youre talking out of your ass. I can hold my X-T1 and X-T3 in my hands and play with the dials and look at the screen and EVF and inspect its body and can tell you they are indistinguishable. Fuji didnt get greedy they simply outsourced to Chyna so they could make a big upgrade but keep the price insanely competitive. X-T3 is $1,500 out of the gate. That’s just crazy.

I admit its a little sad knowing its not made in Japan but editing my photos I dont give a shit

(this is a phone screenshot since my file is over 5MB, just look at the colors)
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>>3429933
Low iq bait, i give it lame/8
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>>3430314
>camera of the year, all years
What more do you need?
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Thinking of getting this camera soon. My only issue is I have shaky hands, how much is a lack of IBIS gonna fuck me over?
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>>3430813
I admit those colors are nice. Did you use any film profiles or settings outside of the default?
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Just get an X-E3 and the fast primes. Cheap and easy to carry. Instantly will increase the amount of photos you take. Grab a couple of off-camera flashes and mods and you will be better than 95% of all photographers who have ever lived.
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>>3431267
Fuji has no fast primes, or good.
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>>3431280
>Fuji has no fast primes
Fuji has several f/1.2, f/1.4, and f/2 primes.
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>>3431318
In fullframe all of those are f1.8 and smaller. Fuji makes the worst lenses.
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>>3431319
DoF-wise they are approximately equivalent to f/1.8, f/2 and f/2.8 on 35mm.
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>>3430332
nice skin tones lmao
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>>3431319
1. F/1.8 still qualifies as a fast prime.
2. By all accounts, Fuji actually makes pretty good lenses. Almost no modern lenses are “bad”.
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>>3431319
>>3431280
>shoot 1.4
>only eye lashes are in focus, everything else blurred to fuck
>h-hey its not sharp on my bokeh balls
God i hate you fags who complain that 1.4 lenses dont have sharp corners. Be it fuji or any other manufacturer. Cancerous gearfags.
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>>3431200
I have never used the film sims because I think they are stupid and dont look like film. I shoot raw exclusively. I will say that I like the black and white film sim because it lets the screen and EVF turn black and white, which is bretty kool

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>>3431069
Do you shoot vid? get a gimbal

Do you shoot photos? Shoot > 1/125

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>>3431339
skin tones are pretty good actually dont be a faggot over a backlit photo

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>>3431280
This is just stupid
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>>3431407
>being able to pixel peep every make-up-covered pore at 100%

digital was a mistake
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>>3430314
You get a big reduction in image quality especially in low light for a slight reduction in size. Xtrans is pretty notorious for having ugly artifacts and the smaller sensor size will hurt you a lot in low light. Also while it's true that the film simulations are nice who even shoots jpeg anymore? And you can literally get the same results by pirating a fuji LUT pack and applying those to your images.
Handling is subjective but I've generally heard good things about it, there's no way it isn't a lot better than the shitshow that is sony ergonomics and menu system. I guess IBIS is a plus since you'd have to move up to a Z6 or Z7 or switch to sony to get the same on a bigger system.
If you are willing to sacrifice image quality for handling then cop it, IQ isn't the single most important thing in a camera and a truly good photographer could get great results even with a d50 from 2005.
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>>3431412
honestly what is the point of shooting 120mm when a crop digi sensor has way more resolving power
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>>3431423
>120mm
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>>3431408
ISO 3200 and noise like that.
Fuji does not just make bad lenses, they make bad cameras.

>>3431411
so dumb you can not even argue against it.
>>3431353
1.2 or gtfo with that shite.
>>3431358
Nice straw man, try again.
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>>3431319
f/1.2 is f/1.2 no matter what format they're on
stop being a fucktard

>>3431842
This >>3431408 picture is obviously heavily edited. here's a random snap from my old x-t1 at iso12800
Stop being so salty.

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>>3431280
>>3431842

"Fast Aperture" refers specifically to the light gathering ability and nothing more. Just like fast film speed.

For example, the fuji 50/2 is extremely good lens. And cheap.
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>>3431894
What's being measured here?
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>>3431842
1.2 takes in 1.2 of light at any format. Its the bokeh that makes the difference, you retarded noob
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>>3431864
F8, no.
>>3431894
It's F2 so its a shit lens only a Fuji user would pay 449$ for a shit lens like that.
>>3431922
>Shoots Fuji
>Calls other people noobs.

Just face it you retarded fucks, Fuji fucking sucks. Shit lenses, shit bodys, just get a Sony A73.
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>>3431924
>gets btfo and still shits up the thread
>as typical, posts no photos

All you’re missing is a tripcode bro
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>>3431929
I post my pictures on a picture thread, not to a gear thread, you knob.
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>>3431929
only tryhards post photos on a shitposting thread
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>>3431934
you sad gearfag, you havent posted shit ever
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>>3431934
>>3431924
>moop still posts butthurt about fuji years later

lmao
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>>3431924
all those x-t3 camera of the year awards and you still cant get no sleep over it
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>>3431924
>just get a Sony A73
They aren't even in the same price range.
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>>3431916
Normalized resolution across the entire sensor area. Pink is zero "blur".
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>>3432079
I see none posted from you eather.
>>3432084
Lol I am not Moop, there just happens to be a lot of rational people who knows how shit Fuji is.
>>3432095
Fuji paid those reviews, Sony, Nikon and Canon does the same.
>>3432097
Get a job.
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Fuji is love.

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Fuji is life.

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>>3432309
>>3432310
Fuji is also depression and self-destructiveness. Basically Fuji is trash.
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>>3432268
Thanks
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>>3432519
Im sorry that Fuji success causes you depression
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>>3432591
Fuji makes me depressed because of the shitty APS-C sensors.
Which is sad, I would live to fully commit to Fuji, have a fullframe X-Pro for serios photography and x100 for casual and fun photography.
I am not going for medium format and there is no pointti having 2 APS-C sensor bodies that deliver the same results.
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>>3431409
Literally imagine shooting digital in 2017.
What a fucking joke.
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>>3432784
shoo shoo /fgt/ golem
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>>3432309
love this. ooc jpg or raw edited? if ooc what settings do you use to edit
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>>3432817
that was raw done in capture one

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>>3429938
fpbp
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>>3432928
Where is this faroe islands?
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>>3432591
>>3432519
>Getting eternally assblasted that a fuji shitpost smear thread got turned into a fuji patrician thread so you double down on your shitposting despite getting btfo on technical knowledge

The rope is coming canikon fags
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>>3432976
>The rope is coming canikon fags
I think it’s mostly the Sony guys who are so virulently anti-Fuji.
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>>3429933
i'm waiting for xt200 with proper 4k 24fps before jumping in fooji.
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>>3430566
spotted the chink.
you ned to drink irradiated water to get gud.
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>>3430813
looks purple tinted
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>>3432975
County Donegal, Ireland
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>>3432982
maybe a little looking at her hands
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>>3432048
and thank god they exist, they're the best part of this board
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>>3432976
Oh , please just tell me at where I got
>btfo on technical knowledge
I for one do not see it.
>>3431924
>>3431842
>>3432769
Everything I have said have been facts.
The best lenses Fuji makes are F2, they are just to expensive for F2 lenses.
The 1.2 and 1.4 just are not good lenses compared to Fuji's lenses or any other manufacturers lenses.
That Fuji's 55mm 1.4 Lens sucks dick and is even worse compared to Sony's 85mm 1.8 lens.
https://youtu.be/hi_CkZ0sGAw
https://youtu.be/kd-NxU4PZQ0

The APS-C Sensor sucks dick, the is no point buying xt3, since soon Fuji releases x100m5 with the same sensor.
Fuji should have gone full frame with X-Pro2, xt3 etc.
It would not even cripple the medium format sales since no one even buys medium format.

Fujicucks you got owned.
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>>3433173
1.2 lenses take in 1.2 of light AT ANY FORMAT the difference is between a 1.2 crop lens and 1.8 ff lens is a bokeh difference. You are some sort of gremlin and insist that fuji lenses are bad because there is no .95 lens available and EVERYONE ON THE FUCKING INTERNET except YOU thinks that Fuji makes Great lenses, at the very least good lenses. You are the only one saying they are pure shit

oh fucks sake why am I even bothering replying to you. You dont dare post a photo of whatever godsend camera you must clearly have because its a “shitpost thread” even though you dont mind replying to 4 posts to defend your argument days later. Faggot!
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>>3431069
Not much of a need for photo, most of their slow lenses have IS
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>>3433173
What would Fuji possibly benefit from going full frame? They already dominate a superior format (medium format) and they're the only ones taking APS-C seriously making ergonomic and well-designed cameras with that sensor. If they split their R&D and lens road map across three formats they'd make worse products.

If I want full frame I'll just buy a Sony or Canon mirrorless. I buy Fuji for the incredible first party lenses and God tier ergonomics, and I'll always come back for that.
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>>3433173
Dumb fuck why would fuji go full frame to compete with everyone else when they have a well established cheaper more compact weather sealed platform with that is better than all other aspc competition. Literally the best camera system for hobbyist
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>>3431417
>artifact

Stop using LR for Fuji raw.
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>>3433173
>Everything I have said have been facts.
everything you said is exaggerated bullshit, you unbearable gearfag.
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>>3433217
>>3433216
>>3433213
Buthurt Fujicucks can not cope with the FACTS.
I would be buthurt if I would have invested into a shitty manufacturer that has no future. When I bought my Sony A7m3 I knew if I had needs I could upgrade into A9 if I want to shoot more sports or If I want to shoot portraits I could go to A7r3. Cannot do that with your shitty Fuji's.
Fuji will go bankrupt in the next 10 years while Sony will still keep driving the market, Fuji has no future, just like the people who shoot with Fuji. Those people will not take a single good picture in the sad life they poses.
Just like you three virgin Fujicucks I have not seen a single good picture nor a good agrument to defend your shitty little toy cameras.
Just accepted the FACTS, Fuji SUCKS!
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>>3433246
Try to write a post without throwing shit in all four directions, because it starts to sound like youre gonna have a panic attack. I really pity you though. Sony deserves better fans than ones like yourself.
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>Those people will not take a single good picture in the sad life they poses.
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>>3433213
>1.2 lenses take in 1.2 of light AT ANY FORMAT
Sure it does, it's just there are smaller pixels looking at that light, making more noise.
No double dip though, 1.8 on full frame would be just as noisy because it would need higher ISO.
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>>3433246
>”Just accepted the FACTS, Fuji SUCKS!”
>I solve the captcha and hit post with a flourish, knowing that I totally owned those Fuji cucks with their tiny baby sensors
>fuck, that shit gets me hard. Time to do a little photography
>I grab my beloved Sony A7 III off its shelf and unzip my pants, pulling my enormous, turgid cock out
>as I slide it into the lens mount, I marvel at Sony’s amazing engineering
>18mm from flange to focal plane. Exactly the length of my massive cock. Perfect.
>not like those Fuji cucks with their 17.7mm Mount, goddamn tiny dick babies
>I pull up a drawing I had commissioned of Kenichiro Yoshida, Sony’s beautiful CEO, fucking Shigetaka Komori in the ass
>Yoshida is drawn as a proud lion-man, his beautiful mane flowing behind him, the Sony logo tattooed on his ass
>Komori is a rabbit-man with enormous breasts and a tiny dick and bunny ears plastered back against his head as he moans in pleasure
>it cost $200 to get this drawing commissioned, but it was totally worth it
>I slide my cock deep into the Sony A7 III’s expansive lens mount, feeling my balls readying to unload
>I pull up the picture I took right after I bought my Sony A7 III, of the box I took it out of. The image quality is amazing. I haven’t taken any pictures since
>I look at the DXOMark score for the Sony A7 Mark III
>so much higher than any Fuji
>I assume, since DXOMark doesn’t measure Fuji camera’s
>I come, hard.
>five strokes. Fast. Efficient. Just like a Sony A7 III.
>I carefully replace the body cap so I don’t get any dust on my sensor.
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>>3433213
1. Learn about SNR, transmission values are for a set area, bigger area = more signal captured = less noise. FF is double the area of crop, so captures twice as much signal, so has an inate one stop advantage.

2. Learn about transmission values - Fuji's f1.2 and f1.4 lenses tend to be between .1 and .3 slower in actual transmission over the f value, all of sonys lenses have t values that match their f values, the sony 85mm f1.4 @ 1.4 actually lets through more light than the canon 85mm f1.2 @ 1.2

3. Finally, the most important factor, sharpness, the bigger sensor will always win because the differences in quality of glass is minimal. Images are limited by the resolution of the lens, not the sensor, therefore, the larger sensor will always be easier to make sharp pictures as it has larger photosites.

CROP IS A FALSE ECONOMY
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>>3433381
>learn about SNR
>learn about transmission values
>sharpness is the most important factor
Learn about taking pictures.
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>>3433376
Nice
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>>3433376
>I pull up a drawing I had commissioned of Kenichiro Yoshida, Sony’s beautiful CEO, fucking Shigetaka Komori in the ass
>Yoshida is drawn as a proud lion-man, his beautiful mane flowing behind him, the Sony logo tattooed on his ass
>Komori is a rabbit-man with enormous breasts and a tiny dick and bunny ears plastered back against his head as he moans in pleasure
Only a Fujicuck is a sick enough to think shit like this. No suprise, they shoot with an APS-C sensor and claim it can be professional.
How many fuji threads have you whiteknighted this week, Jesus no other fan group is this autistic protecting camera company.
A switch to full frame would make your life better, there would be no need to protect your sad little camera company.
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>>3433381
This.

>>3433385

Look at this Fujicuck, can not defend argument, so he can only do bad insults.
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>>3433477
Jesus, you’re frothing.

Why does it rustle your jimmies so much that someone else might like a camera more than yours?

>A switch to full frame would make your life better,
I own four full frame cameras. One of them is even a Sony, which is why I know how shitty they are.
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Can someone explain to me what the point/advantage of micro four thirds is? I really dont understand why anyone would want a sensor that small.
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>>3434427
The idea is that the bodies and lenses can also be really small to go along with the small sensor. In practice, *sometimes* that works out, but sometimes they’re even larger than mirrorless full frame. Depends on the body-lens combination you want.
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A shitpost about xt3 vs a6500 who are both aps-c has turned into an aps-c vs full frame shitshow.
Why do aps-c sensors trigger full frame zealots so much?
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>>3434438
I think it’s mostly just Moop being an ass? He’s weirdly obsessed with hating anything not Sony, even though he never actually takes pictures with his camera.

I’m not entirely sure since he’s posting anon, but it seems like his MO.
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>>3434441
Is it moop or a retarded Eastern European version of moop...it’s hard to tell, though he did go through a phase of spelling like an American in an attempt at disguise. This could be a strategic development.
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>>3430314
go for it, you'll be happy and dont listen to >>3431417 , that's bullshit, xtrans gives no artifacts if you use correct developer like Iridient (now also on windows, so it's a no-brainer) or SOOC pictures
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>>3430554
>MIJ and build quality

yes, we have famous company, like legendary Kobe Steel, Takata Airbag and Nissan Cars

great quality, such Nippon, very buy
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Note on "Made In Japan".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKMw2it8dQY

For everyone hung up on the MiJ label, take this into account:

The label "Made in Japan" may be applied to products if the following conditions are met:

>the product is actually made in the japanese archipelago
duh

However, a product may also be labeled "MiJ" if:
>the product is made everywhere else on earth
what?

A product may also be labeled MiJ if not actually on Jap territory if:
>the company and factory that makes the product is Japanese owned, irrespective of where in the world it is
>the supervisors that oversee the factory are pureblooded 100% Nippon-jin
>the QC checking workers are overseen by skirred nipponese handu

Like most "made in" labels these days, it's mostly marketing. They do this because their main target group, Nip people, will only buy something if it says "made in japan" on it, even if there's not discernible difference. Hence why sony has "mij" on identical products to foreign-made items.
Shit can be made anywhere as long as the Japanese taskmaster whips the coolies into shape.

Japan essentially classifies outsourced labor as "meat robots" (which is what they are); their overseas factories are like Japanese coloniess. It's been their insidious modus operandi since losing WW2: if they couldn't take over the world through military might and soldiers then they would do so via making quality products and salarymen.

So, the next time you buy something because it's "MiJ" (or anywhere), it technically might not be because the laws are as loose as a retired okama's boipucci.

I don't have problems with stuff made by Japanese companies, or, at least I didn't before (everything seems shittier than I remember it regardless of place of make). I know that the japanese overseer is a harsh slavedriver, that ensures that shit will be done more or less right.



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