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Our first 4channel thread edition! [Also, something about Christmas?]
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Here we discuss techniques, gear and anything else related to capturing video footage. Please don't pretend to be an expert if you don't know what you're talking about. Kindly leave your ego at the door.
Posting short films/scripts or other work you've done is encouraged.
We tend to use and recommend DSLRs/mirrorless cameras because they provide phenomenal picture quality for their price, have large sensors (ie the same size used in high-end cinema cameras and higher) and have interchangeable lenses.
In contrast, consumer camcorders normally have much smaller sensors and a fixed lens.

>NO ONE CARES WHAT AN EXPERT YOU THINK YOU ARE. IF YOU’RE ASKING BASIC-AS-SHIT QUESTIONS, YOU CAN’T BE ALL THAT GREAT. SEE ABOVE

Previous thread >>3389150
So, what are your fondest memories of 4chan? And what are your plans this Christmas/New Year?

FAQS
>what’s the best camera available on a “budget”?
The new blackmagic pocket cinema camera 4k, by a considerable margin
>>what’s a good beginner video camera?
Buy a used canon 700d
>Can I use a zoom lens for video?
Yes
>Do I need cine lenses?
No
>Where can I find a good 4k lens?
Anywhere. Your stills have a much higher resolution than 4k. 4k lenses are a meme
>Do I need 4k?
No. It will make your footage look sharper if it’s in focus, and it gives you breathing room in post. But 1080p is still absolutely fine
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DSLR footage looks like shit
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>>3411737
Won’t 4k also make it harder to pull focus than 1080p?
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>>3411748
your retarded
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>>3411744
Magic lantern/clean HDMI outputs/not panning too fast fixes most issues with dslr footage
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I'm mostly annoyed of /vid/'s tendency to talk about plebian camera manufacturers and models. (let alone talk about actual filmmaking.) so from time to time I like to introduce some more obscure cameras - like I did with e.g. the Ikonoskop, digital bolex or kinefinety -, just to keep the niveau high. this time I want to talk about the z cam e2.

in spite of being advertised as a broadcast cam, I find it an absolute killer for cinematic work. the features are insane for the price and I saw extraordinary footage from it. it outperformes sony dslm's and barely the fs700.
but it isn't for me since I strongly dislike the videoish character of all these cams, the z cam included. btw., if you I'd want a videoish cam but obscure then my instant buy would be an elphel cam. this's so cool, but video par excellence.
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>>3411744
this get mirrorless
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merry christmas /vid/!
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>>3411977
garder le niveau haut ?
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If you were creating a facebook page for your film, would you want the name to be "Movie Title" or "Movie Title Film"?

Has anyone felt like they've had success with using social media to promote their film?
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>>3412505
Probably just "Movie Title" to be honest (unless the title was too generic to obviously be a film). I feel like including "film" is a thing for blockbusters. But I've never tried either, so I don't fucking know. This is why PR firms cost a lot of money
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>>3412505
I would get off facebook because it's boomer land.
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I know how to edit in vegas, i've been using it for roughly a decade and i can pick up a new project in seconds, but over the years i grew frustrated with the little quirks and inconvinionces you have to put up with while using the program, should i just bite the bullet and learn Resolve? It seems like the best option out there and hey, nothing beats free.
Only gripe i have with it seems to work diametrically different than Vegas, it looks like i'd have to re-learn pretty much everything other than basic timeline usage. For those of you that jumped ship to DaVinci, is learning it as much of a pain as it seems to be, and is it worth it?
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>>3412603
Vegas teaches you incorrectly. Resolve is much closer to Premiere/FCP/Avid.
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Hey guys, I'm new to video. How exactly do I do a continuous video f going from a dark interior to a bright exterior? I don't want the exposure freaking out on auto and of course want to manual control things in the darker areas instead of it forcing up the ISO and causing excessive grain.
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>>3412603
It's a general question of how fast you learn software. I learned on Vegas, then learned FCP and Premiere, then DaVinci. It's not a huge deal unless you were a heavy load editor blasting away on hotkeys. NLEs all have the same basic concepts, you just learn the new hotkeys and roll with it
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Noob here. I want to make a short horror film. I have almost everything planned out, except the appearance of my demon guy. I figured I could just go to Party City and get a spooky looking mask for him, or maybe just some monk robes like they did in Hell House LLC. Either way, I feel like the appearance doesn't really matter, since he's only going to be on screen for a split second right at the end. Is my thinking right?
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>>3412761
if it looks stupid the movie is a failure
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>>3412711
>>3412758
I was thinking more about how the workflow with effects/transitions/cropping/masking works, since that's mainly what i work with. It seems to work not even remotly close to similar in Resolve as it does in vegas.
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any fag here that got the BMPCC4K?
How do you like it?
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>>3412789
Well yeah, but I'm trying to make sure it doesn't.
Look at the ghost thing at the end of this short horror film: it seems like they put very little thought into her appearance. As long as the audience can immediately recognize that it's not human, The appearance doesn't matter, right?

https://youtu.be/kNbJE0y29_c
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>>3412761
Eh, it depends. If it's stopping you getting it made, just go for whatever and move on. If you're not in a rush you could find an artist to design/make something?
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>>3412932
Well, like I said, I'm a total noob. I've made a few microfilms before, but nothing serious. This will be my first "real" short film. I'm trying to spend as little money as possible.
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what does /vid/ think about this short film? is it /kino/?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZveA-NAIDI

imho the sound effect at the end is worse than the alleged kiddy diddling
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>>3412837
I have the bmpcc 4k, and it’s awesome it records directly to ssd drives.

The only problem I have with it is that batteries keep getting stuck in the unit and need to be pried out.

I was going to get it kitted out with a cage and follow focus when I got my taxes back, but can’t do that now because I’m getting married and am going to spend my tax return to pay for a honeymoon suite.

I’m an autist and a girl wants me so that makes me happy.

I guess just got lucky and I’m going to transform from a robot into a person later this year.

But, digressions aside, the bmpcc 4k is awesome, I added a tripod place to it and use it on sticks. It works much better than my DSLR: better iq, no arbitrary record limit.

I’ll eventually add a gimbal to my rig after the wedding is over and I’m not spending money on wedding related stuff. Maybe out of my 2020 tax refund, my 2019 tax refund is going towards a wedding.

I am getting some gigs with my camera and am using it as a c camera. As I get more conformable with it and know that it will produce footage it will become my b or a camera.

Protip: don’t cheap out the media, I tried to use a china special sd card for 1080p footage and got nothing so now I’m going to use the Samsung t5 1tb ssd from now on so I don’t risk not getting the footage I shot.

tl;dr it’s better than a DSLR and is a great stepping stone from a DSLR to a more professional camera.
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>>3413027
>because I’m getting married
Anon, on behalf of the entire /vid/ community, reconsider this. Once you get married, getting a divorce is a clusterfuck. Are you certain she won't cheat on you? Are you certain she will stick with you through the hard times (being a videographer is very inconsistent pay-wise)? Are you sure she will keep her figure?
I just really don't want to read an update in 2 years time about how your wife was fucking your best friend. Or how she's been suffering from depression and is lazy and getting fat and constantly nagging you while draining your bank account.
Just think, what do you actually get out of this wedding? And if you've got a good answer for that, maybe I'm wrong. I hope I am.
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>>3413057
I’m not Chad material so if the girl likes me for how I am, she’s a keeper.

She looks good but she’s not a Stacy.

We are happy when we’re together, I don’t know how things will be in two years since I live for the moment.

The only incompatibility I can think of is that I love my psychedelics (dmt, lsd, shrooms, mescaline, ...) and she’s straight-edged, doesn’t even like alcohol or weed.

So the only cheating that would happen is me going on a trip every now and then. A secret drug trip not a fuck a roastie in secret type of trip.
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>>3413057
incel/10
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>>3413215
I hope I don’t go from being an incel to being a cuck. I have autism so I’m lucky that a girl digs me.

The main reason I got lucky is this anon doesn’t do weird shit like wearing fursuits or dressing up like a kiddy cartoon.

Pic related: an asslie, not this anon but a random asspie this anon kind of knows, dressed up as pikachu.

This anon masturbates to pictures of other asspies, not any more though since I found a roastie that likes to jack me off. I’m a happy anon and no longer need the services of /r9k/

I’ll still use /vid/ because I still want to do the side hustle of being an indy filmmaker in addition to my 9 to 5 grind.

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>>3413027
>The only problem I have with it is that batteries keep getting stuck in the unit and need to be pried out.
this is classic BM, usually the little door is shitty as well. if you run a cage it is even worse, which is why you want to move to v-mount.
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>>3413333
When I can afford to move to v-mount I will. The gigs I have right now allow me to directly plug my camera into the power main at the events I’m filming so batteries are not an issue right now.
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What's the best way of recording dialogue if I don't have a lav mic? I have a Zoom H1 audio recorder that I jerry-rigged to a pole that kinda works as a boom mic. I also have a Rode VideoMic Go that I can slap on top of my camera, and a really nice condenser microphone that I use for voice acting.
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>>3413360
I use a lav mic that cost me ~£15 and it gets better audio (for dialogue) than my Rode (which cost like ~£65).
But when I'm not using that, I just plug my Rode (just the normal rode videomic) into my H1 and hold it as close to the actor's face as I can without it being in shot. It's worked mostly okay so far, though it's had its challenges and was definitely something I'd consider a learning experience
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So I've just discovered that apparently you can no longer add credits to your vimeo videos. I wonder what feature they'll remove from the site next?
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any quick tips for a total nooblet to streamline (increasing my speed, reducing disk space usage) my video editing process? I'm using iMovie to edit some 'home videos' with the gf. taking me forever
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Do you need a big ego to make it as an independent / auteur director? The more I personally work in film, the harder it is to avoid feeling that being dominant and affirmative in your artistic choices - even when you know deep inside the flaws of your own work - generally boasts better results than just presenting yourself as a modest and awkward 20s-something trying to make it into the industry.
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>>3414097
no you need to make good movies
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>>3414102
>no you need to make good movies
that's the biggest illusion out there. there is absolutely no connection between quality and success. and you can tell that not only by personal observation, but there are also a lot of studies showing that (ask for source).

>>3414097
dominance is an unclear term. if you want to understand factors of success, here is some academic perception:
1) ascriptive inequality: you have to consider the structure of the (or rather: your local) creative branche. which group of people has the relevant positions? which groups are underrepresented? to which group do you belong?
2) winner-take-all: success is cumulative. the more you have, the more you get. how many resources do you have to accumulate success?
3) nonrigid business connections: in opposite to what many people might believe, weak connections are more effective than steady. people who can hold many connections without a strong bondage can act more opportunistic and find their way quicker. how many nonrigid connections do you have?
4) specialisation: the branche (as well as the consumer) prefers specialists over a jack of all trades. can you highlight yourself with a specialisation to a narrow and significant service or product?
5) organisated dissonance: innovation is a crucial factor for sticking out. teams which are able to generate and endure dissonance (in creative and professional manner) tend to create higher innovation than teams with a stark and unobstruced workflow. are you able to create teams with creative dissonance which will survive the production?
6) status-matching: mid-brow market participants tend to cooperate only with other participants on the same or a higher status than themselves. low-brow participants hardly get any entrance but sometimes with high-brows, which are clever enough to capture low-brow innovation. do you have networks to higher status participants?

from my pov you started to ask the right question. now go some steps further.
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>>3414123
You don’t need to have a high status you just need to be a deceptive asshole and lie your ass off to people and make them think you have high status.
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>>3414127
well, "fake it until you make it" can be a good entrance. if you are good at it. that alone will be insufficient though.
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>>3414123
>that's the biggest illusion out there. there is absolutely no connection between quality and success.

you're an idiot, my man. I'm sure you think that Lebron James got where he is because of his "connections" too.
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>>3414102
>>3414148
While I don't necessarily agree with >>3414123 on that specific point, he is absolutely correct in pointing out that filmmaking talent alone is not sufficient. The sad truth is, unless you're a Mozart-like prodigy born with innate skills that have been impressing everyone since your childhood, you're probably not getting anywhere without knowing how to market yourself to the right people. It sucks, especially if you're an introvert, but I don't think there's any way around it in the film industry desu.
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>>3414123
I feel like this post is too good to be here. Fuck. The problem with an answer like this is that it's almost impossible to just implement the methods here. Even if you know they'll work.
I liken it to talking to girls (because this is one of the first times I noticed it, over a decade ago now): You can be told a hundred times that girls like assholes and "treat them mean, keep 'em keen". But until you do it yourself accidentally, you never actually believe it enough to try it.
Maybe that's just me and a lack of faith.
>>3414148
Filmmaking and sports don't work the same. You only have to look at film festivals to see that quality and success are completely independent.
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>>3414232
I agree to that the six mentioned points are quite theoretical and you actually understand what they mean not before you have been in that exact situation. but I think it is a good thing to have heard about them though. just as in your example, not to choose to act like that but to recognise what is going on while it is going on. it's a sad thing when e.g. a filmmaker from a minority group with no resources, no connections and a rather broad talent for the whole filmmaking process fails in becomming successfull and comes to the conclusion that the problem is his or her lack of talent while the actual problem is the structured discrimination of market participants with these specific attributes. if quality and success would be related, then these attributes shouldn't affect success at all. even worse, given that business structures are like they are, significant talent is rather counter-productive since when people decide about letting people through based on personal attributes, they automatically tend to benefit mediocrity or simply said: people who are not more talented than themselves. this way you can explain well what is going on in the business. for example the successive decreasing of quality and innovation over the years, because of the incestious dynasties of networks around once talented people which drives themselves ad absurdum by blocking all instances of innovation potential from newcommers.
on the other hand not only the established people in the branche are a problem but furthermore also consumers tend to discriminate newcomers. most not-established creatives have learned about the hypocrite behavior of consumers, which in 99% of the cases leads to an overrating of established content and a view of not-established content as an underachievement.
once you have understood these effects, you unfortunately won't become successful instantly, but you at least know WHY you are not successful. if there is a work-around? .. you tell me.
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>>3414498
Their is a work around. Lying your ass off and making it like a big name is behind the film. The question you should be asking is their an honest and ethical workaround. Because their is always a workaround if you’re willing to bend or break the rules to make it big.
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So as 2018 draws to a close, let's have some positive vibes.
What did everyone accomplish this year?
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>>3414650
>finished writing my first feature script
>got into several film festivals and was nominated for an award (that I didn't win but still)
>almost finished my second feature script
>made about 4 shorts, a couple of which I'm really proud of
I'm struggling to remember beyond that. That's something though?
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>>3414650
i bought some new gear
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>>3414650
Just a few weeks ago I shot some candid film of my friends walking through town and edited it to music. I only had a few hours to work on it, since the library I was working on it at closed for winter break, but I think it turned out fantastic considering. I've always had an interest in film and film editing, but have never really has the resources to pursue it. So I'm excited to get some actual work done on some projects in January when I go back to school and couldn't be more excited!
What about you?
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>>3414650
this was the last video I made this year, quite satisfied with it personally but I want to do much better next year

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vt64ZZV8GJk
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>>3414650
I finally did my first short film earlier this year (still related) and, even though the result isn't especially remarkable in any way, I guess the direction went alright considering my utter lack of practical experience beforehand. It got accepted into two festivals on FilmFreeway, which was pretty neat. If gear also counts as an accomplishment then I've upgraded from a really old and technically outdated Lumix GF3 to a G80 during the summer, though sadly there haven't been a lot of opportunities to use it lately.

On a slightly less positive note, I've also been struggling with writer's block for my second short to the point of going through three complete rewrites for the past two years. It sucks but I'm guessing it's all part of the creative process?

>>3414651
>>3414687
>>3414701
>>3414703
You've all done great, my friends! I'm genuinely happy to see so many anons making and/or accomplishing /vid/ projects, let's hope 2019 gets even better.
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>>3412761
>z cam e2
this is good thinking. fear of the unkown is powerful. jaws is, ofcourse, the best example of this. it follows did a good job of this until they "showed" it halfway through the movie during the beach scene, which took the wind out of the movie's sail. showing the monster to early can completely change a horror movie into a thriller ex. a quiet place. good luck with your project anon
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>>3414650
got into cinematography and general film making. shot 2 short films, one which is being sent to chicago film fest next year. completed a feature script that ive slated to begin shooting in april. good year. keep grinding. im liking the positive vibes.
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How come my shot looks okay on my camera's LCD screen, but it's WAY too dark when I watch it on my computer?
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>>3414804
one of these:
-wrong gamma on your monitor
-video level vs data level black and white point of the footage isn't interpreted correctly by your nle or player
-your camera screen is set way too bright
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>>3414804
At a guess, you're probably shooting in environments that are very dark so comparatively, your eyes think that what's on the screen seems properly exposed.
I just remember that I had the opposite happen a few years ago where it was overcast but middle of the day in late spring so everything was quite bright. I didn't realise how over-exposed my footage was until I turned on my histograms (and that day I learnt to always check my histograms) and then had to reshoot a bunch of stuff.
I also fucked up my shutter speed that day. It was a great day for learning. [Ironically, and very frustratingly, the final footage I got is some of the best footage I've ever filmed in my entire career still to this day]
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>>3411737
Does making shorts with friends as a hobby count?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiTzC0rExp4
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>>3415000
Yes. Keep doing
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>>3413011
Yes. It is kino done in a kitchen home.
Based Spacey
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How do I record ambient noise?
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>>3415134
put a mic in whatever ambient environment you want and do nothing for five minutes?
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>>3415138
I did that, but the mic picked nothing up. There was nothing on the audio file.
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>>3415149
Use a better mic.
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>>3415151
I was using a Zoom H1, inside my house. Is there some place in the room I should put it? Next to a vent or something?
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>>3415192
Yeah I mean if you're trying to catch a particular ambient sound, it'd be better to put the mic close to that ambient sound you're trying to capture
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>>3415192
Make sure to turn up the gain on your mic until you hear something. Use headphones to listen as you set the mic volume so you know you've got something then leave it alone to capture ambient noise. Also make sure auto level and lo-cut are turned off.
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>>3415149
use headphones to monitor and check gain levels before you start recording.
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>>3415504
looks fine to me, what about it looks bad to you?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExwbHxzkedw
Something I threw together a while back. Some feedback would be appreciated.
Keep in mind, I just used a cheap camcorder.
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>>3415579
Sky is blue, earth is teal, whites are yellow and fucking monolyth is green.
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>>3415641
it mostly just looks like a collection of pretty shaky and bad stock footage. so if that's what you were going for it came through
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>>3415641
I like it, you need to improve editing skills but it was good
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>>3415504
which version are you watching?
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>>3415674
Nolans butchery came to Yarrrgh chanels. Needed to check it for myself. And it is bad!
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hey all, looking to get some good snowboard footage for a snow trip video but i don't know if i should take my old handycam or upgrade to a (cheap) action camera. I don't do action sports very often so i'm not gonna invest $700 into the latest GoPro, but i could probably find a used Hero 5 for under $200 on ebay. also note that i probably won't be doing the mounted on-board video style, i'd like to get a small gimbal and get footage of friends riding. if i get an action cam i'll probably try mounting it to my board just for kicks, but that's not my main motive here. just want to know if i'll be making good use of my money by getting a cheap action cam, or if i'll get similar results out of something i already own (with probably less flexibility + more danger if i drop it in the snow)
my options:

old Canon handycam
>1080p / 30, or 1080i 60
>have a huge wide angle fisheye for it
>not waterproof though
>already own it, costs nothing
>no gimbal, but i do have a stabilizer for it

GoPro Hero 5
>4K / 30
>lot of accessories
>more reputable brand
>have to buy used to get under $150

Yi 4K
>can be bought new for $110 on amazon
>same specs on paper as the Hero 5
>probably less accessories
>good reviews on amazon but unknown brand

what do you guys think?
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>>3416534

Yi isn't an unknown brand.
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>>3416550
it's owned by xiaomi right? i guess "chinese" was what i meant. tends to be cheaper built and more of a variable in terms of quality in my experience.
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>>3416553
Xiaomi make consistently great products with high build quality, especially their phones. The "made in China is bad" stereotype is rapidly becoming outdated. /csg/ - Chink Shit General on /g/ is worth reading or asking advice.
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>>3416555
fair enough. my question still stands though, there obviously has to be some differences between an action cam that costs $400 vs. $110 at retail besides brand name.
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god fucking damn it, premiere is so unstable, lagging and crashing on a 2k pc, what programs do you use for editing anons?
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>>3416556
No
GoPro is like Apple
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>>3416826
Huh, i guess i could see that. Pay more for the same quality but get branding, more proprietary accessories, better software interface, better cust. Support.

Doing a bit of research the picture quality looks nearly identical if not better on the Yi, so maybe i'll give it a try.
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>>3415000 >>3415073
I love it, subbed! I too love making videos when an idea strikes, this is mine I was recently inspired by Mandy, obviously
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e78NZ2ZLBr0
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Long time /vid/ lurker here, wondering if it'd be reasonable to ask you bros a question about the possibility of using an opengl shader or porting it for use on a project in Davinci Resolve. I have never done work outside of color grading and such, so I'm not sure how stupid of a question this is. I don't know why it would be a problem in theory though. Any ideas or insight?
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>>3413057
Lol this dude already thinks she's taking half the lenses.
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>>3417295
I don't see what a vector based glsl prog in a sequencial raster graphic environment would be good for. if you want to implement glsl based cgi then you can render your shader scripts e.g. with blender and use the raster data with your davinci nle. if you need some weird scripts on-the-fly or responsive then consider working with blender in the first place. i don't know davinci but would be surprised if it would have an appropriate interface, or even if, an interface on par with blender's.
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Where is the best place to put a camera in a car to film a road trip??
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>>3416534
SJCAM SJ6 Legend
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Uploaded my first video of 2019:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eqFTct_SRA

Lessons learned:
-A 27mm lens is quite a bit tighter than a 24mm lens which I was used to before. Caused my face to be cut off often (I fixed that later during the trip)
- I should have used the wind cover on the rode mic. Think that's gonna come to bite me later
- Didn't quite understand how the pan mode worked at that time, caused the gimbal to move in random directions at time
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>>3417350
I basically want to see what some of the modern CRT shaders built for 4k displays and up would look baked onto footage recorded from a composite source like a VHS. I should have mentioned it before, but the shaders in question are already .cgp files which is a standard that should be usable outside of emulation.


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>>3417551
as I like somehow the idea itself, I still doubt a gpu shader is necessary. these crt shaders are designed to work in realtime. and with realtime I mean gaming-realted realtime. so as realtime as possible. which is something you absolutely do not need for video post processing. you can create way better screen emulations with decent processing steps which may take their time. in the end figuring out the processing steps your favourite crt shader does will be less pain in the ass than emulating it on davinci.
btw, as blender has a game engine I'm pretty shure there are tutorials how to implement common shaders.
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I actually got the shader working from inside the emulator itself (Retroarch) with videos with an FFMPEG plugin and you're right. It looks good but it seems to have difficulty with interlaced video. It looks good, but not great. I think with the correct video resolution + tweaked settings it would work, but I'll probably just use it as a baseline while I find a way to port the effect into a format suitable for video, probably higher quality. pic related is what a DVD-scan of Serial Experiments Lain I used to test with the shader I have in mind. I have a VHS rip I want to try, too, but I'm starting to think the interlaced jitteriness will be too unstable for a real-time filter to handle without looking terrible.

Also keep in mind this is a 1080p capture so the phosphors aren't visible, which is where the filter shines
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inspire me, /vid/
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>>3417988
> inspire me /vid/

Do you want to see some cinematic scat porn, furry porn, or mlp-porn made by autists for autists?

All the porn is shot on Reds and Arris so it’s perfect for /vid/tards
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>we 8k now!
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>>3418064
But I'm just a beginner. I don't have a lot of fancy gear, and I'm all by myself. Can I still make a decent short film that way?
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>>3418088
This one is really interesting. With Sharp being primarily in a vid cam businesses, it looks as it'll be direct competition to blackmagic 4k. Only it is somehow 8k on four thirds sensor. Now, it's ether some clever marketing, or it's running on a completely new sensor. Not long ago, Panasonic was claiming four thirds can't do 8k.
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>>3418166
depends on the idea
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>>3418177
i can't fucking come up with any ideas
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>Only it is somehow 8k on four thirds sensor.
This isn't as crazy as it sounds. It may be using the multiaspect Sony IMX299CJK sensor. This is the same 40MP sensor that's in the Panasonic GH5S, but on the GH5S it's using a modified Bayer array that bins pixels 2x2 for better low-light performance. That gives it an effective 10MP for stills, and 8MP (aka 4K) in 16:9.

Without the quad binning and using a standard Bayer array, if one is willing to take the (probably huge) noise hit, this sensor can do 8K. It already does it under the hood on the GH5S, it's just that the user never sees it before it's processed into the binned 4K signal.
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>>3418337
You're reading that wrong. That one is 20mp sensor reconfigured for 10mp vid work. It's in fact doubling each pixel, not quadrupling it. Although 20mp would still be good enough for some faux 8k resolutions like 7680x2160 (16mp), proper 8k uhd is 7680x4320 (33mp). It would be quite an achievement should they get reported 30fps on 20mp sensor without crop in as small enough body, going for higher resolutions would require sensor tech not jet seen in four thirds format.
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>>3418178
We used to recreate music videos shot for shot for practice back in the day.
>pre youtube days
It helped us come up with original shit too.
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>>3418388
Wouldn't a 33mp m4/3 sensor have the same pixel pitch as a 132mp 35mm sensor?

16-20mp 1/2.3" sensors have that kinda pitch but the noise is awful even at 100-160.
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Well, Sony has 20mp inch sensor in pnshoot cams, but I don't think that one is on the market in larger sizes.
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>>3418337
>You're reading that wrong. That one is 20mp sensor reconfigured for 10mp vid work. It's in fact doubling each pixel, not quadrupling it.
Are you incapable of calculating two times two? Did you drop out of school at the age of 7? Look again at the modified Bayer filter it uses.

Good lord, this is what I'm doing with my life. Teaching two times two equals four to internet people. I need to go do something productive.
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>>3418442
You need to quell that anger all right, and start thinking instead... It's not 40px sensor. I can't imagine what gave you that idea. Panasonic took a standard surveillance vid sensor of shelf, and added their own dual iso tech to it. Nothing else.
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>>3416534
update: narrowed it down to a few different cameras.
>https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07CKV9FRX/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=A3RMKVRIA6Y6TG&psc=1
>comes with waterproof case already, along with 2 batteries and some accessories
>pretty fantastic reviews (70% favorable)
>very fair price at $110 for 4K / 30 and i'm assuming 1080/60 or 1080/120 (it doesnt say)
>EIS

vs.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01FU9ZIMU/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A3NZWXSNTH0Z2Q&psc=1
>similar price
>also 4K/30 with EIS
>pretty solid reviews at 60% favorable
>since it's a ~not~ unknown brand Yi, there's probably more accessories available
>however none come in the box with it, and i'm taking it to the snow so i will have to immediately get a waterproof case

was also looking at the Yi 4K+ because there's a coupon that makes it $160 but not sure if i want to invest that much into it, as well as the Yi Lite because it's only $61 and shoots 1080/60 with EIS but also lacking accessories and no 4K

god damned chinks and their well made competitively priced alternative action cameras, i wish i could just buy a brand new GoPro and call it a day. what do you guys think? best cheap action cam? leaning towards the AKASO.
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>>3418166
Use deep fake or fake app to put Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump in hardcore armature porn and shit post that porn all over /pol/ nothing would be as kino or as representative of /vid/ as doing that. All you’d need is a gaming pc with a good video card and you could do that.
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Help me /vid/
How can I get this look or something like it without LUTs (or with LUTs idk)? Kinda looks like film but it's not. The skin tones look really nice.
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>hardcore armature porn
i'm ready for these shocking visuals

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Got myself 2 Lumecube air with my christmas money. Dunno what to do now. Should I get a brachet or maybe a Hotshoe-mounted NATO rail to mount them on my camera?
Incidentally, the App is a fucking PoS, it absolutely REQUIRES me to give access to Microphone and GPS location or else it refuses to work. And I have to register the product key as well. I refuse to give them that satisfaction
otherwise, great lamp.
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>>3418727
I'm modding some christmass lights. Fully customizable led color array. Should be great as some off scene ambient source.
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>>3418629
Use an Arri Alexa
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>>3412722
You do an iris pull and adjust the transition a bit more finely in grading

>>3414097
From my experience on sets as a DP or working in the camera department, you don’t need a big ego per se, but you do need to project confidence. There’s nothing worse on set than a head of department that doesn’t seem to know what they want. A bad decision is better than no decision at all on set, because of time constraints.

>>3416569
Premiere, despite the crashes it’s still the best option

>>3418629
Learn to color grade, light the people well, etc.
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I'm about to get a call to help on a set (semi-pro apparently), I don't know the specifics, I'm not even sure of what I'll do, what kinds of questions should I ask to be prepared? I have no prior experience but I've read/watched a lot of videos on film making.

I was thinking of asking what kind of shooting it'll be, what environment (for clothes), if I should bring equipment, what I'll be expected to do, how long it'll be expected to last. What else could help me prepare?
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>>3417040
groovy!
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>>3419026
>I was thinking of asking what kind of shooting it'll be, what environment (for clothes)... what I'll be expected to do, how long it'll be expected to last.
Good questions
>if I should bring equipment,
Bad question. If you need to bring equipment, the producer should tell you specifically. And when you're hired in a non-specific job, there's even less of a reason to bring anything (unless you applied saying "I have equipment we can use"). In general, you should be paid more if you're bringing your own gear.
If you're not being paid and the producer doesn't tell you to bring stuff that the production needs, it's not a professional set and is being run by incompetent morons and I would avoid.

If you ask if you should bring stuff, they will probably tell you to bring stuff cause it means they don't have to use their stuff. Or they won't need the stuff you bring and will make you bring it as a backup (ie. no reason)
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>>3419068
Makes sense, thanks a lot.
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Anyone else thinking about moving to LA?
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>>3419159
I live here already, 10 mins from DTLA

AMA
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I'm a noob. I want to make a zero budget microfilm. Something I can make by myself at home in just a few hours. I've been thinking for literally days about it, but I haven't been able to come up with a single idea. Wat do?
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>>3419570
Film yourself wearing a wolf or lion mask and jerking off anon.
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So is it true that everyone's first short film is always bad? Because I just finished shooting mine, haven't even started editing yet, but I can already tell that it's going to be AWFUL.
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>>3414650
downloaded premiere pro
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>>3419713
As long as you can figure out why it’s awful it will have been a useful learning experience. The first anything you make will be worse compared to the second, third and other attempts. As long as the second film is better than the first you’ve got a chance.
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>>3419570
>Something I can make by myself at home in just a few hours.
Unless you make an animation that's really short with no sound, this will be shit. Not just "everyone's first film is shit", but like unwatchable garbage shit. Filmmaking takes time. A lot of time. The results you get correlate pretty closely with how much time and effort you put into it.
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>>3419713
>So is it true that everyone's first short film is always bad?
Yes.
The only exception to this are cases of nepotism/too much money, where the person has experienced people to help them make the film and basically do everything hard and make it not shit
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I made something again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmPKGygV4Lo
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>>3411737

is a good camera for indie filming also good for professional level photography?

I need some advice for camera shopping
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>>3419802
depends
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>>3413027
I'll be getting the BMPCC 4K before the end of the month. I've already had commercial success filming solely in 1080 on outdated equipment, so any upgrade is a good one. However, I just realized that I'm not used to editing with larger resolution files.

Pic related. I'm using Vegas 16. What's the ceiling on my editing possibilities? Will I need to upgrade my computer as well?

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>>3419905
You should be ok, just expect everything to go slower.
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>>3419713
oh my god it's so fucking bad i don't even want to finish editing it
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>>3419570
Just make short films about performing mundane tasks (working out, cooking a meal, shaving etc) so you can practice shooting, lighting, editing etc. For example, I saw this a couple of days ago
https://youtu.be/O86WZMdXioE
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>>3419802
Get a Pansonic G85 or G9 if you have a bit more cash. How "professional" do you need this photography to be?
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>>3419802
high quality video
low light sensitivity
high res photos
cheap

pick two
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>>3412837
Where the fuck can I even get a BMPCC4K at the moment without waiting two months or getting gouged?

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>>3420022
Push all of that turd out anon. Use the regret in the next project.
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Bros someone on Craigslist just offered me a trade of a Mavic Pro Drone for a laptop I have listed. It's worth about $750. Should I do it?
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>>3421068
Only if you can test it beforehand. Mavic are top quality, but a shit ton can go wrong with drones. Motor fixes are fairly easy and cheap repair, but if it's got some chipset problems, you can be stranded with a brick.
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made a video about nyc, any feedback would be appreciated im pretty new

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqWCrVbI60w
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General unmotivated camera movement. There's no reason for why you're moving/showing what you're moving/showing.

I have no idea of what the story is. I know it's not a fiction piece, but "New york city but empty" is a story, "this is the skatepark I hang out with my mates at" is at least the start of a story. This doesn't have any motivation for the edit or the cinematography.

The next thing I'd shoot, if I were you, is a video of your mates trying to learn a new trick. Only shoot what you can from within that skatepark (it seems there's a few interesting vistas around it).

What were you using to shoot this? Do you have zoom/different focal lengths? Do what you can to get a mixture of shot types - I want to see your friends grinning, walking towards the camera, smug as they're the first to land it, or close up on the feet as they try to master it.

I don't mind the black and white - it's a natural fit for skate photography in a park like that - but you've got to embrace the contrasts. Look for the interesting geometrics - I'm still trying to figure this out myself, but here's a still I've done.

The music doesn't help your pace or rythm, but you have reminded me I want to get really blazed and watch Koyaanisqatsi this year.
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>>3421793
>>3421805
this being the reply to this, obviously.
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>>3421805
Okay, thank you so much for the feedback. Ive read what you said and I agree. Ive been watching other skate videos and have noticed how they leave in the skater failing the trick and keeping on trying to build a story.

The people in my video were the first time meeting them but I will work on being friends with the subject to show a more deeper and genuine portrayal of the moment.
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N00b here. Does anyone know what this “selection stuff” is in Premiere and how I can get rid off it? I did something by accident.
Apologies for taking a picture of my screen instead of screenshotting, my home internet died so I’m using 4G.
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>>3422188
Figured it out. In/out points. Right click > delete in + out
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Hey all,

Weird request but I figure if anyone would know it'd be someone here.

I'm looking to pick up an old school VHS camcorder for a project (like pictured) but the biggest requirement I have is I need to be able to output a live image from RCA jacks of the camera. It's been ages since I've used this kind of tech but if I remember correctly, the camcorders I've used in the past would only show playback out of the RCA cables.

Is there a camcorder historian who might happen to know of a model that meets these requirements?
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>>3422811
A ton of models do this. Go to your thrift store and find one with the red yellow and white cables and you'll be good to go. Depends on your TV too though, make sure it accepts the cables.

I have messed with many different vhs cameras and I don't know if I could recommend you a certain model because
1. They aren't being made any more, you'll have to scour the internet for them and your mileage may vary
2. There's like a billion fuckin models of vhs cameras that span multiple generations
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Could I get some feedback on this? Other than the godawful audio at the beginning (forgot my wind protector for the mic at home)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-925UZWNulM
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what do you guys think of my first short film
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiSG7sNtSUE

i'm okay with the quailty of acting and story, it was completely for fun. necessary improvements if i want to make something better.

-shooting daytime only
-not letting my retarded friend handle camera without proper direction
-a mic that isn't attached to the camera
-less ambitious overall, this was a lot more work than i needed my first time out.
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>>3423005
cinematography and color grading is nice, but i wouldve just cut out that entire intro with the shitty audio and done a VOD instead. literally hurt my ears, had to skip it. also your selfie cam is a bit too close, it put you out of focus a few times and was generally kind of annoying.

i won't speak on the content of vlogs because i think vlogs are kind of stupid in general, but you kind of beat around the bush with what you were trying to say and it bored me. i would say only speak when you have something of interest to say, i.e. abroad in japan doing a vlog while having interesting facts and experiences with his travels. i find his videos really great because he has charisma, speaks clearly and has interesting facts and information in the videos.


hope you enjoyed your trip though, i went to japan in spring last year and absolutely loved it. want to go back this year in the fall.
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>>3423138
>but i wouldve just cut out that entire intro with the shitty audio and done a VOD instead

kinda agreed. Also lesson learned in not taking off my wind protector from my mic. Definitely gonna try to go with a VOD if I have that in a future vlog.

> also your selfie cam is a bit too close, it put you out of focus a few times and was generally kind of annoying.

mhm. something I unfortunately only noticed when I came home. Was filming with a 18-105 on a Sony a6300 on a gimbal. Was used to a wider lens before that and didn't adjust properly.

>i would say only speak when you have something of interest to say

noted, will watch some more of Abroad in Japan.

Hope you'll make it there! Autumn colors start changing around mid-November, it's really quite the spectacle
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>>3423148
>kinda agreed. Also lesson learned in not taking off my wind protector from my mic. Definitely gonna try to go with a VOD if I have that in a future vlog.

yeah the audio sounded great when it was on, but it was like a cheese grater to my ears when it wasn't.

>noted, will watch some more of Abroad in Japan.
he's a great inspo for making good Japan videos, or travel videos in general. I think the big difference with vlogging is that people like Pewdiepie for example can get millions of views on his Japan vlog because he's already a famous celebrity. it doesn't matter what the content of his videos are, he already has a fanbase and those people just want to see him enjoying his time and having fun. Chris Broad became youtube famous fairly recently because he began as a nobody documenting his experience as a foreigner living in a foreign country, working as a teacher. there's a point to every video he makes and while there is normal vlog stuff in between, i watch because i want to his experience doing this (and he's funny and charismatic). if you aren't already a celebrity and you really want to get some views vlogging, find something worth vlogging about. people dont care if you are gonna take a train and go look at some touristy temples.

hope all this helps you out somewhat.

>Hope you'll make it there! Autumn colors start changing around mid-November, it's really quite the spectacle

yeah that's what i've heard. i went in Feb last year and it was great, i kinda wanted to go closer to march or april for the cherry blossoms because they were only starting to bloom in Feb, but it's far too late for that now. almost considering going in summer, i know it gets hot as fuck but i wanted to go to okinawa and have a beach relaxation weekend, and then spend another in Tokyo doing all the stuff i missed. i brought my A6000 last time and got some good photos / videos but i only had the kit lens at the time, so this time i should get some better stuff for sure.
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So apparently the nikon z6 is the best dslr available for video now? What the fuck?!
a. How did this happen?
b. Why is no one talking about it?!
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>>3422811
I purchased this roughly 30 year old VHS camera a few months ago for my own bullshit. With a bit of cable bullshittery I was able to hook it up to a modern TV very easily. You should be fine, especially if you get an old broadcast camera.
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If I have an idea for a script, but I'm too much of a noob to actually make the film, should I go ahead and write it now, or should I wait?
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>>3423291
If it’s a good idea write the script and try to sell the script to a producer or director. If it’s b material wait until you have the skilled needed to make the film.
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>>3423321
how would one even go about selling a script anyways?
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Is it possible to protect yourself from getting your idea stolen?
Particularly for a documentary where there is just an idea, rather than a narrative film where there is a script that you can copyright
Shopping a docu around to producers atm and getting paranoid
EU btw
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>>3423328
ideas are unprotectable in general.

>>3423323
it is extremely unlikely that you will sell someone a script.
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>>3423378
>ideas are unprotectable in general.
That's what I've heard
What if I was to write it up as a treatment, could I get that copyrighted and would it then stand some kind of legal ground?
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>>3422811
Most of them will have a composite output.
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Nobody is going to steal your idea, believe me.
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>>3423608
It was for
>>3423381
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>>3423609
>>3423608
You never know
Where I am, producers have a reputation for fucking people over in all sorts of ways
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>>3423615
That implies he has a good idea which is worth stealing. Since he’s on 4chan it’s not bloody likely that he has anything anybody would want to steal from him or even make for him.
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>>3423802
What's your problem
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>>3423802
Ha you'd be very surprised.. I know some people in the industry who lurk here and could have even stumbled across this thread
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>>3423809
oh shit he found us out
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>>3423809
My dream is literally to one day have a behind-the-scenes photo from one of my films be used in the op image
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>>3423608
I will
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https://ew.com/oscars/2019/01/22/oscars-nominations-2019-list/

Thoughts? I wanna go see the Favourite this weekend, seems Kino
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>>3423911
Favourite's pretty decent. It's kinda like a lesbian Barry Lyndon. Less epic, but much better paced and funnier
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Could someone give me an estimation of what kind of camera this video is filmed with? Is it just a cheapy mid-tier model? You can see a reflection in his guitar but I'm pretty sure it's just a mic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxKPEddE82c

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I want an Arri Alexa.
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>>3424307
I want an Arri Alexa and someone to carry it for me
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>>3423130
The girl got any social media?
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>>3424190
the one you have with you
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>>3421793
hey guys made another new video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRtogguKQOU
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>>3424757
It's 2019, you shouldn't be uploading anything in 4:3 with letterboxing, even ironically.
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https://twitter.com/Blackmagic_News/status/1088286260836237312

https://forum.blackmagicdesign.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=85113

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