Why is gerber the most undervalued brand?
>>1517957>tfw you can't even twist wire with a multitool without the pliers getting all warped or snapping in two piecesI just carry a pair of actual 7", tool-steel, needle-nosed pliers instead. My father bought them for me when I came over to take him to Lowe's about 20 years ago. They've been the best pliers I've ever used.
>>1517961pic? i want to see it.
>>1517957Because they're garbage, and because Leatherman exists.>>1517961>muh 90 year-old equipmentPeople don't have multi-tools only for the pliers.
>>1517965>Because they're garbage, and because Leatherman exists.This 100%. Also because Gerber makes all that shitty overpriced Bear Grylls branded crap.
>>1517965>People don't have multi-tools only for the pliers.OP's tool is designed for bomb making, fyi. It is specialized and made from stainless steel, & ballistic nylon.
>>1517965>People don't have multi-tools only for the pliers.So, they want it for all the other more useless tools on it? kek
>>1517975Yeah, but he asked about Gerber in general, not this particular tool. Which Leatherman also has a better version of, btw.
>>1517976How are they useless? You do understand that it is a compromise, right? They're just supposed to be tools that work well enough in a small package. You know, for when you don't want to bring your whole fucking toolshed innawoods.
I had the Gerber dime and it bent when I used it to take a small nut off a bolt.. just used it normally with my skinny ass hand and it bent... gave them a second chance picked up a small folder with a sharpening tool and the knife had that cheap only tapered to one side thing going on so the sharpening V shaped tool didint even work with the knife it came with...Spend more money and get better quality is all I have to say about Gerber
>>1517980Why do you need pliers and screwdrivers innawoods?
>>1517989>needThere's that word again.The screwdrivers I can agree with, but pliers can be useful for maintaining your other equipment, as well as things like removing fish hooks.If you think multi-tools have anything to do with any of your """absentee father""" bullshit, you're fucking retarded, I'm sorry.
>>1517994Your father should have taught you the proper use of tools, how to select the right tool for the job, and how to properly clean & maintain your tools. Multitools are nothing more than money-sinking gimmicks for uneducated or bullheaded people.
>>1517998You know you're being just as much of a faggot as gearfags are when you sperg out over what equipment people like to take to the woods.
i EDC the Gerber bladelss, i just rides in my bag, nice to have some tools, peace of mind that i can bring it anywhere and the flick out action os fun to play around with
>>1517976>>1517989A multitool is a requirement.
>>1518271>ultimate cringe tips
Why is the scale on the Gerber so wrong tho?
>>1518304Again, could be because they're garbage.However, arbitrary units like that can still be useful for /out/ use. It's not like a 100% accurate ruler is the highest priority then.
>>1518311i wouldnt say they are garbage, just very utilitarian built, you get what you pay for and it gets the job done.only thing i really miss from going from the wave to the bladelss is the diamond file, but iys for EDC, probably wouldnt carry it /out/ but the gerber would probably be beter for fishing because of the one handed pliers desu
>>1518321Opening a regular multi-tool, let's say the Leatherman Wave or Surge, as I'm more familiar with those, with one hand really isn't a problem either. You just jam your thumb into the split, and then just press it against your thigh when it's open enough to allow for that.
>>1518304>origin not aligned to start with>img blurred , cam probably so potato that can't tell if further errors in alignment are presentCan we have a proper image to judge?
>>1518335You're literally the only one who can't see what's going on there. You're retarded.
>>1518326yea its no problem, i can flick open my wave too with like a butterfly knife type flick. im not saying i like either one more then the other, different tools for different things. although ive been unable to fish the blade play in my wave which is kind of annoying. i dont mind that the Gerber rattles a bit or that the tools arnt as finely machined, desu the tolerances on a Leatherman arent even that good, they are good, but not THAT good. my all time fav tho is the Juice Cs4, its like a SAK huntsman with pliers
>>1518336So how much offset is there at 3cm?
>>1518340Does it matter? The point is that it doesn't match up.
>>1517957Not /out/. Try >>>/diy/
We can agree on that. But it's highly exaggerated by a shitty picture. Ruler and tool are not parallel, offset and the tool also looks like it'd be tilted downward.Also, wooden folding rules are no precision tools as well.
>>1518304DONT BE A FAGGOT
>>1517998You're so wrong about Multitools that I almost question fatherhood as well for being mentioned in the same post.
>>1518304Holy shit, anon...you don't even have the 1's and 2's lined up. They aren't parallel either.
>>1518537He's obviously one of these fucks who like to walk around with three tons of equipment just because "that's what a man does".
Imagine-AHAHAHAHAHAHAImagine not just getting a LeathermanBAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>1518619I lost my Signal and I'm bummed out about it.
>>1518653That sucks a big one, sorry
>>1518658I have others but I'm going to get another signal.
>>1518653>>1518660what do you like about it? seems gimicky as fuck and expensive
>>1518752>gimmickyThe whistle and the ferro rod are definitely gimmicky (though I still like having the latter). One annoying thing is that the pliers can't fully close with the bit driver open, so using the driver is kind of awkward. Beyond that, all I miss from the Wave is the small bit driver.-The Signal is lighter-The hammer is surprisingly nice to have-You can lock it shut-Bottle opener on the outside-I like how it looks more>expensiveI got it for the same price as the Wave.
>>1517961What's wrong with hammocks?
>>1519033That picture is obviously schizophrenic. Although it does have a few good points, it was still made by someone who can't put two and two together.
>>1517957Bought one of these para knives of theirs a few years ago, and was pretty brutal on it from day one. After a week it didn't exactly look pretty, but it held up for about 18 months. Only expected it to last a few weeks to get me through a job. Could have just been lucky though, haven't heard great things about them from others.
>>1519156I have one of those it's surprisingly durable. The frame broke in one place so I have to pry it apart to open it or close it, but to be fair I was using it as a chisel banging on the end with a rock to chip into other rocks for fossils lol. Did much better than I expected, went all day before the break and that really didn't affect anything as far as what I was using it for.
multi-tools are heavy and almost always go unused except for the knife and pliers. Just bring a separate knife and pliers.
>>1519159Some of us actually bring and use gear into the woods.
>>1519160you mean shit-tier tools that dont do any job well and weigh over a pound?
>>1519163A leatherman is a requirement. The pliers alone are literal life savers. Sorry you had an absent father.
>>1519164except when the pliers seize up and work like shit after 3 days
>>1519165I've been using the same multitool for years and literally never had this problem. Git gud lmao
>>1519165Stick to leathermen then
>>1519165Sounds like a symptom of either using it wrong or using it for something it wasn't intended for.
>>1519167>>1519170>>1519171two leathermans, same deal. Just a little sand. Never worked good again. I stick to a pair of $8 pliers.
>>1519173Sand has never been a problem for mine. Multitools =/= pliers, btw.
>>1519167Same. I've had a wave since 07ish and that never happens.
>>151796110,000% holy shit FPBP.
>>1519181And then you realize how fucking wrong he is.
>>1519173There's a warranty if you're that dissatisfied.
These ones are still fine. Have to watch that you don't pinch you hand, done that a couple times.
>>1518998The sharpener actually is not connected to the knife so you can take it off and use it. The blades and saw are thicker.
>>1518752>and expensiveI just ordered a replacement on Bladehq for $99 with free shipping. I'm this anon.>>1518653
>>1519225>mfw Leathermans are closer to $300 where I live
>>1519165Wow, what kind of faggot are you? I’ve had my wave since 2003, use it regularly at work and abuse it yearly on a two week camping trip in a remote area, using it to gut fish, pull hooks out, bait and unbait crab pots. All of that is involving salt water and beach sand, and every time I think to myself “I should not be such a cunt to this thing,” and every year I get home, wipe it with some CLP, blow out the sand that didn’t wipe out... and it’s yet to seize, crack or combust.The smallest screwdriver - mine is the older Wave without bit drivers - has a cracked tip, but that was my fault for misusing it, and I can’t bring myself to send it in for warranty cos I know they’d replace it with a new one and I’m a sentimental faggot.
>>1519229if you’re an ausfag wildearth has waves down at 170 pretty regularly now
>>1517957>Why is Gerber the most undervalued brand?I'm guessing it's the chinese mystery steel they're made out of, but it could just be their abundance at the local dollar store that's causing the problem.
>>1517989Why do you need to go innawoods?
>>1517961That image needs:>paracord bracelet>spydercos>g-shocks
>>1519310Agree with the paracord bracelets and spydercos, fuck you on the G-shocks.
>>1519160You don't use a multitool.
>>1519170>Stick to leathermen thenyikes
>>1518018>A multitool is a requirement.Absolutely not, otherwise people would have been unable to go innawoods pre-multitool era.
>>1518337Why not spend more than $20 on a knife kek
>>1519332You're wrong.>>1519333No need.
>thread full of weekend camper urbanite douchebagsHere's a real multi-tool btw.
>>1519356>not leatherman>calls others weekend camper urbanite douchebagsLooks like we've got ourselves a bit of a pot and kettle situation here.
>>1519358Plus I have a SOG>>1518660it's meh. I can't get at the knife without opening it all the way up, then closing the handles.
>>1519360Yeah, and SOG is shit. Which was my whole point. Pay attention.
>>1519310>tfw dad was a failure of a father and I have a rangemanf-fuck you
>>1519333i have. those are just some folders, but i do like my knives on the cheaper side
>>1517957I don't know, OP, I value them a lot. I have the Bear Grylls multitool and a bunch of related other, and it's all been excellent value.
>>1519356is that knife assisted?
any way to fix blade play on wave? mine has always had significant blade play in the main blade, all the other tools are solid as a rock but the main knife has significant blade play
>>1519333Not necessary. Price doesn't mean its good, learned that lesson with a sak.
>>1520415Unironically email them and they'll arrange return and send you a new one.
>>1520406lmfao I see that thumb stud holy shit man
Is the gerber dime worth it? Everywhere I read says it's either amazing or complete shit
Gerber is for babies
>>1517961I like that camo tactical fag bag, where can I get one?
>>1520814>fag bagtop kek
ONLY GERBER can do this!!!
>>1520881Now, that's fucking retarded. This is where specialized pliers come into play.
>>1520693I have one and it's been totally fine. It's small enough that I actually bother to take it with me on day to day stuff, and I've used pretty much everything on it. Heck it's even fun to fiddle around with out of boredom at work to keep my hands busy.
>>1520693>>1521017 To add, the nail file is totally useless though. It's so small and close to the hinge that you actually can't file anything
>>1517961Now, this is a meme I can get behind. The funny thing is how brittle those tools are. They are never tempered correctly or simply use the wrong metal for something as basic as pliers.
This and a few other threads up right now are reminding me of what unbelievable snobs outdoorsman are.Calling someone a pavement nigger because he buys the wrong brand of multi-tool. Or saying they have an absentee father because they damaged a tool once. I though this kind of cuntiness was more of a city thing.
>>1521080New here? /out/ is one of the most pretentious boards on this site. Everyone knows better than you, and if you don't agree with them you might as well stay in your house and be a degenerate city boy or whatever.
>>1520881yo, anywhere i can buy just the plier head? would love to frankenstain together a fishing specialized gerber
>>1521121>pretentiouspic related &>Everyone knows better than you>if you don't agree with them you might as well stay in your house and be a degenerate city boy or whateverThis, but unironically.>>1521072This B many TFO, thank you for your service.Does Winchester still make multitools? I never see them mentioned, but I bought one about 16 years ago that's done a massive ton of work and still has all tools functioning perfectly.
>>1517957Because 0 times anything still equals 0.
>>1521072Never had an edc need to ply the shit out of anything, but figured they'd be bad for that anyway.Do have one of these on my key ring though. Maybe it's a meme, but actually comes in handy for small shit that happens day to day and doesn't weigh anything.
>>1521121I know that's the MO on /out/ but usually I can just ignore it and just enjoy talking about hiking and shit.
military here, been using the same leatherman wingman i was issued 4 years ago, has held up very well.
>>1517957Used to be good when made in the US, now it's TRASH
>>1521019>>1521017>>1520876I've been trying to decide between that or one of the small leathermans. Might just a micra bc the scissors seem more useful
>>1521477Micras are nice, BUT, if you ever fish, get a model that has pliers.
>>1521480I don't fish or really do a lot of stuff I'd need a fullsize multitool for, but a SAK seems like for the size i could get a pocket multitool like the micra that has more things it can do.
>>1521080I know right. You'd think this would be a wholesome board, but it's infected with /k/-type spergs with hot opinions and even hotter brains.
>>1519310>g-shocksI wore the same g-shock for 5 years working 5 days a week in a railyard in 110 degree heat, 10 degree cold, rain, snow, dust, dirt, oil, sweat. It was slammed into switch stands and ladders and the only reason I had to replace it with a new one is because my dumb ass decided to open the back cover to replace the battery on a humid day and let moisture into it. I upgraded to a solar model 3 years ago and haven't had a problem. Weekend warriors might buy them to look cool, but they will hold their own in any condition you throw at them.
>>1523085I've had a solar one for 5 years living /out/, still going. The only complaint I've had is it sometimes takes a couple of weeks to catch and atomic clock signal and update with the time changes.
>>1517961>those sandelsYou can’t be serious. Do people actually wear that while /out/?
>>1520881youd be better off buying a set of pliers from harbor freight for probably 1/20th the price.
>>1518653And it showed up today.
>>1517989Pliers are actually useful around a campfire. But 90% of stuff found on multitools is a meme>inb4 processing logs with a 5cm sawblade from a multitool
>>1523364I like to think of the extra tools (straight, serrated knives, sawblade) as a bit of redundancy insurance that comes on top of the pliers. Do I need it? No. Are dedicated pliers better than multitools? Of course. But most of the shit we bring /out/ isn't strictly necessary anyway.
>>1523366Multi-tools are a great way of reducing the sheer amount of shit you carry, which is what these moron's don't seem to realize.
>>1523364>thinks everyone is as creatively limited as they areI use mine to make flootes, the saw does a great job of cutting the bamboos, and the awl makes note holes.
>>1523571I was doing that the other day with only a clip-point pocket knife.
MULTI-TOOL SHIT TEST:1: Open the tool so that you may use the pliers.2: Grip the pliers by the handles, as though you are going to use them.3: Grip them hard with as much pressure as you'd normally be using them.4: Release the pliers and look at your hands.Do the handles leave indented lines and marks? Are the handles comfortable when squeezed? If you were to actually use them a good bit for 5-10 minutes would they pinch your skin or make your hands hurt in any way?
>>1523611Less precise and refined...a..."shittier floote", if you will.
>>1523625Don't project your failures onto me, please.
>>1523632>don't project hard physics onto me, please
>>1517957They started off good. And then the Canadian military invested millions into the company to make them some shit and supply them with multitools. After that, they let it get to their head and started making shit products. When my father retired from the military he took three of the multitools they first issued, haven't had a problem with mine ever. I was sold on the brand, but never really had a need to buy new equipment, until I lost my knife after a tumble and was in the market I went straight to the gerber brand and wasn't impressed.
>>1523647No, seriously, you are a failure using a knife if you can't make a good whistle or flute with it of nice quality after some general practice.
>>1517989>because his cup is already full?
>>1523663You must not have much knowledge or experience with floote hole design. It's impossible to shape one properly with a clip point blade, simple as that, but a SAK awl happens to be nearly perfect (yet there are better tools still). I do not doubt yours are good enough for you, but they are still less precise and refined, and astute ears can hear the differences in tone puriities and timbres.
Imagine being so poor you cheap out on a shit tier knock off for a tool that your life may one day depend on. I don't recall a gerber every making it a month into a deploy. sogs and leathermans were fine as well as long as you have a full sized model, the supertool 300 I took. I replaced it with a Surge after my 4th tour.
>>1518619>Begins laughs with a bConfirmed autism
>>1523085same i got a solar one for my birthday when i was younger, thing still works just fine, don't plan on changing it anytime soon
>>1523675You don't know what a clip-point knife is do you?
>>1519394>and SOG is shitCare to elaborate?
>>1517989Pliers are good for fish hooks, or if you need to punch a needle through heavy fabric. I use the small saws and blades for making spoons and shit.
>>1524660It's not Leatherman.
>>1524647Yeah, I own one, the issue is you don't know shit about floote hole shaping. Like I said, I'm sure you can make floote holes that are acceptable to you, but my original statement was that they would be less precise and refined. A clip point is curved in the wrong direction for it to be physically possible, unless you actually fully sharpen the top of the blade also, and even then it's too large, unless you're talking about a *very* tiny knife. It's just the way it is. Enjoy your perfectly acceptable to you, yet still less refined floote holes.
>>1525173Now i'm impressed. Thank you heaps for this substantiated answer.
>>1525295If you want to use the knife on a leatherman you just flick it out. On the SOG you have to open it up , get the knife out, then close it back up again.
>>1523100>sandelsI failed a spelling bee in fourth grade for that exact misspelling of the word "sandal."
What is the point of a cut out or a nail Nick. But then no nail Nick?
Don't feed the tripfags.
>>1526146Mine opens with a button.
>>1525203>projecting your failures on othersYou sound fun at parties.
>>1517989What's your endgame anon? I have been seeing alot of absentee posting
>>1526168Parties are for retards and degenerates.
>>1526194And, for people with fathers present in their lives, evidently.
>>1526211Yeah, my son and I ate with my father a few days ago.
>>1518337What is that hook knife?>>1519394They are pretty good for the budget, better than gerber,
>>1523619nothing gloves can't fix if you use them professionally. for the occasional 5 sec use you get from an edc each month it will be fine.
>>1517957biggest issue with gerber is most of it is made in china from chink mystery steel with little to no quality control. for that it's way overpriced it would be okay if it was cheap tho.
>>1528124>What is that hook knife?hook knife? the mushroom knife? the one with the brush? it is some cheap as fuck, probably chinese made no-name one
>>1528140>Made in ChinaMost of it is made in Portland, Oregon you giant retard. The other eest is made in Finland, cause they also own fiskars.
>>1523100I wear Tevas when I'm kayaking. Wouldn't wear those gay-ass tactical flip-flops though because they won't work with my neoprene socks.
>>1528135>have tool for a month>use it only 5 seconds>have to wear gloves to use itWew