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Are people who claim to enjoy the city life retarded/conditioned or is it a legitimate preferance a healthy human can have?

Serious question, have a friend who I like talking to, but whenever she visits my small country town she talks about how she could not live without being able to meet new people or visit different venues/social events whenever she feels like it. I really would like to try to understand that.
inb4 >slut
she ain't a slut, but bluepilled af and depressed
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>>1514122
Probably due to the type of social she is. Wouldn't be surprised if she had no clue wtf to do if the internet is down for a day.
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>different people like different things
weird how that works
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>>1514122
She just might be better at adapting to it than you. It can be really convenient sometimes to have stuff within a walking distance. Hospital or other health care services for instance. Imagine driving over a bumpy country roads for an hour or more with a really bad toothache or headache or some other really painful condition without any painkillers or sedatives.
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>>1514130
Right, could be that, she does not have any particular hobby. It's a weird relation anyway, I like for the past's sake, high school times etc. but I know I'd never ever befriend this type of person now.

But I was wondering about the question more in general.
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>>1514122
>how she could not live without being able to meet new people or visit different venues/social events whenever she feels like it
you might be legitimately mentally retarded if you can't wrap your head around that
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>>1514132
But many of those people like what they like *because they are retarded*.
>>1514137
>social events
See?
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>>1514152
People like different things.
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>>1514132
>>1514187
Stop being a passive aggressive reddit fag
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>>1514187
>People like different things
Some people have a foot fetish and like feet but no one would say i cant pass judgment on them as a filthy degenerate.
What you like defines who you are and we are not all equal.
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>>1514152
>people who don't like things i like or like things i don't are retarded
newsflash: all those people think you're retarded for the exact same reason
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>>1514200
I'm not retarded, they're retarded.
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>>1514200
But they're too retarded to be qualified to judge what is or isn't retarded, and have no base of objectivity other than their own likes and dislikes.
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>>1514235
Dont bother, liberals aren't intelligent enough to explain it to. If you point out how wrong their lifestyle is, they just get angry and lash out.
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>>1514122
>she's not a slut
1. She is a slut.
2. She's depressed because all she does is stare at her phone and take dicks.
3. When she says she can't imagine living without going to new events and meeting new people, she's talking about drugs and sex.
3. Nobody in a city is happy, or can be happy. They can only be distracted at best.
4. There absolutely are wrong ways to live your life. Living in a city is one of the worst.
5. She is not really your friend, she is trying to get something from you.
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>>1514244
They think what they do only affects themselves, and deny that their actions contribute to the dragging down of the collective IQ.
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>>1514258
W-who hurt you, a-anon?
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>>1514258
you appear to be lost, robotanon.
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>>1514295
>t. liberal damage control squad
The truth always puts them on the defensive
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>>1514298
>lost
>post that's relevant to OP's topic of discussion
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>>1514258
This is far too black and white of a view. It's obvious that you're projecting your cynicism and despair onto a complete stranger who you know nothing about.

1.She probably is a slut because most girls in cities are sluts unless they're too ugly/fat to be one. My definition of slut is a girl who has sex with men who they aren't in a long-term committed relationship with.
2.There are many reasons she might be depressed. The most common reasons for city girls are not eating properly or exercising, not getting enough /out/ time, and believing in the career woman meme instead of having kids (no feeling of purpose in life). Promiscuity and drugs are coping mechanisms, not the cause.
3. Some people are extraverted. They are energized by social interactions and feel empty without them. It's got nothing to do with drugs and sex. Not enough information to draw any conclusions here.
4. Agree with this one
5. This is just pure paranoia on your part.

I've had my share of bad relationships/friendships with girls, but you can't let that shit jade you and assume the worst out of everyone. You will die alone and miserable.
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>>1514122
It's like depression, you get so used with it all those years and it slowly turns comfortable so you don't want to leave, but there's still a need to connect with nature.
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>>1514258
Fucking based
>>1514298
>>1514295
>>1514310
Cringe and reddit
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>>1514327
>t.edgy 14 year old
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>>1514310
>You will die alone and miserable.
Well, except for my friends and family members.
>Some people are extraverted. They are energized by social interactions and feel empty without them. It's got nothing to do with drugs and sex.
The human brain is biologically only capable of giving a shit about 100-150 people. I.E. your family, loved ones and immediate community group. People who say they have to meet new people to feel happy and energized are lying to themselves. What they really are doing is hoping from social group to social group because they're unhappy and depressed and trying to fill that void. They don't care about anyone but themselves and don't form relationships that they have to reciprocate. They only take from people and move on when they are done. And yes, it is very much about sex and drugs because that's also how these people try to hide their unhappiness. It's all about chasing gratification. It's actual mental illness, but you can't say that in front of liberals because it will hurt someone's feelings.
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>>1514329
Back to r*ddit buddy
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>>1514351
>t.armchair psychologist who has never had a gf
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>>1514355
And in typical liberal fashion, he lashes out with insults when confronted with an argument he can't refute. I suppose next you'll call me an autist or an incel.
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>>1514359
>implying I'm a liberal
imagine being so intellectually stunted that you just go around calling every stranger who disagrees with you a liberal. Nothing you said can be refuted because it's literally unprovable. You're just making shit up like a low IQ version of Freud.
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>>1514258
based
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>>1514360
Ah, the old "lol I'm not a liberal!" deflection. Sorry, but it's all true. The human mind really only does retain social information of about 100-150 people, sexual promiscuity and drug use are both signs of deeper psychological issues and most of the people who suffer from this behavior flock to cities to indulge in it. It's not a gender issue either, far too many men do it as well.
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>>1514362
>>1514327
Why do you keep replying to your own post
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>>1514364
>sexual promiscuity and drug use are both signs of deeper psychological issues and most of the people who suffer from this behavior flock to cities to indulge in it.
You have things backwards. People engage in harmful vices because they live in cities, have no purpose in life, and are disconnected from nature. Said vices then feed into their problems and create a vicious cycle of nihilism and despair.
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>>1514360
>imagine being so
Back to plebbit, fag.
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>>1514369
imagine trying to police people's language on the internet
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>>1514374
yeah dude.. time to go back now
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>>1514375
>>1514369
>>1514364
>>1514359
imagine being this dumb and autistic
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>>1514377
b2r
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>>1514378
>phone posting
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bitch is probably just as much an slut as anyone else out there
i would love to know it for myself though, or know some people really like those things that she has
thank you jess, i think you are being kind
i know that everyone thinks that being sad about your lack of relationship status was some kind of punishment for being with someone you liked and that you were a failure for being single. i know it is a little frustrating when you start feeling that way but i want to hear what is really going on, and i want to know if you have found any friends you don't care about who you were dating in the first place, the reasons for your current relationship status, if your girlfriend's boyfriend is abusive or just a complete no good whore
>tfw i think everyone is making excuses for this shit
it happened to me too
i don't know of any cases of someone in my situation who is not an alcoholic, the fact is that you can never know for sure, though maybe you have heard the stories and i am not telling you about a lot of them
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fuck me this whole thread is autistic as hell
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>>1514258
>4. There absolutely are wrong ways to live your life. Living in a city is one of the worst.


This is so true .
I wish there were some way to keep the decroded city people from hiking in my area. They just stink up the place with their shitty ideas and they reek of depression
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>>1514359
have sex
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>>1514387
>this whole website is autistic as hell
ftfy, welcome to forever
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>>1514122
Quite honestly, cities are killing us, humans are animals and animals naturally exist in nature.
I just makes sense.
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There is something wonderful about cities and something wonderful about /out/ as well. It's mostly about your attitude.

It would be great if we could have the best of both worlds. Maybe someday I can afford an apartment in a small city and a cabin in the middle of nowhere. That would be cool.
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>>1514538
The only thing "wonderful" about cities is that the population concentration is such that when the plague finally hits it will spread quickly and they are also somewhat containment zones for nogs.
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>>1514133
You go to the hospital for a headache?
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>>1514360
How can you not see he's fucking with you?
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>>1514542
There is more opportunity for sociability, there is a greater amount of events, more amenities, etc.

It's fine if you don't prefer that but I think it's good to see the positive in both.
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>>1514557
>greater amount of events
Yeah, no. You've obviously not closely observed the natural world which has a far greater events density.
>more amenities
Yeah, no. Can you find food growing all around you? Can you catch or kill food all around you? Can you readily find the materials to build shelters and fires all around you? Can you piss or dig a hole, shit, and bury it pretty much anywhere?
>sociability
Cringe, but there are shitloads of /out/ sociability opportunities, which are of far higher quality and less degenerate than a bunch of city drinking and whore hookup joints.
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>>1514122
i live in the city and theyre alot of people who cant live without the city, clubs, beach, bars, music festivals, god i fucking hate california. city people are people that need constant in your face entertainment and to be surrounded by other like minded fucknuts.
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>>1514559
By events I obviously mean structured events like music festivals, art fairs, concerts, etc, whatever. You can't really compare that to the goings-on of the natural world. They are very different.

That's the point I am making, they are totally incomparable to eachother. Your argument is no more reasonable than a city dweller saying that hunting and foraging can't compare to having a dozen restaurants and a specialty grocery within walking distance. Those arguments are fallacies.

I could make count-points to the rest of what you are saying but it's pretty obvious that you're mind is made up. I'm just saying I can see the value in both.
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>>1514559
>Can you find food growing all around you?
this really depends on where you are. going above treeline? not fuckin likely, anon.
>Can you catch or kill food all around you?
this also depends on where you are and what time of year is it. rabbits are tasty though, i'll give you that one, anon.
>Can you readily find the materials to build shelters and fires all around you?
again...where? are we talking desert hikes? you want me to make a house out of a saguaro? you seriously want me to light a fire in the rocky mountains in the middle of a hot dry summer? are you one of those southerners that thinks the rockies are just as wet as your backwoods outhouse shithole? goodness, anon. goodness.
>Can you piss or dig a hole, shit, and bury it pretty much anywhere?
homeless men are not deterred by little things like laws, social guidelines, or other trivial nonsense. you can definitely shit wherever you want in a city.
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>>1514122
the countryside is dying for a reason: it sucks
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>>1514193
You're dumb.
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>>1514542
>>1514559
based
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Guys the only way to keep these crappy city people from shitting up our local woods is to start slashing tires of out of state plates at trailheads
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A lot of people value the benefits of living in a city and in rural areas on a spectrum. I grew up in a rural area and have lived in small cities. I've also lived in what I would consider to be proximity to a very large city (~1.5 hour drive). I've found my ideal area to be in a rural area that is relatively close to urban areas. I would ideally live a long walk (~30 minutes) to bars, grocery stores etc but on a property that I can't see into my neighbors windows. I also would like to live close enough to an urban area of >250,000 people so that I can go to sporting events, concerts or an airport and still get home in a day. The furthest I've lived from a city was 150 miles and that was fine but you can be 50 miles from a city and still live in a rural area (here in the Midwest US). I know some of the antisocial types will use some true Scotsman bullshit to discredit my /out/ passion but there reality is my job is /out/ but businesses typically centrally locate offices in urban/easy to travel areas. My job, my personality and my hobbies require that I live in a place where both /out/ and /in/ are accessible.
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>>1514122
I live in a small inner city flat and go to my parents old cabin wayyy deep in the wilderness pretty often. I wouldn't want to miss out on city life ever desu. My ideal life situation as I get older would be a small inner city flat for sleeping over in, a comfy small farm with some goats and hens and a big greenhouse in some pastoral area, and the cabin in the wilderness. But as a young person, if you don't like the city, then you're missing out on the play of life.
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As much as a lot of you seem to hate cities and the people who live in them, you are ignorant to the fact that cities are necessary in order to even have /out/ at this point.

Suppose everyone lived in rural areas or suburbs and no one was in appartments or anywhere of higher density. It would be a mess and there would be little or no /out/ land left.

I frankly have more contempt for suburb boomers than I do for city dwellers. The burbs offer none of the amenities of a city and none of the wilderness either. It's only predicated off of everyone's selfish delusion of entitlement to their own plot of land. Perfectly reasonable in our great grandparents time but now? Burbs also make it harder for urbanites to partake in the outdoors as you need to drive through them to get out.

Inb4 "that's why we need to bring populations down to preindustrial levels" ok kiddo, you'd better get on that.
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>>1515024
>the play of life
degenerate detected
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>>1514122
for me, the work I find interesting is all in cities. At least early on, I could work remotely later or something.
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>>1515024
> if you don't like the city, then you're missing out on the play of life
You couldn't be further from the truth.
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>>1515029
>cities are faggot containment, be grateful
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>>1515076
Yeah, seriously, the drama for all those country songs written over the many decades didn't come from a vacuum. By far most of the "play of life" that happens in big cities is only known to those directly involved and maybe the handful they tell. In rural areas it spreads to pretty much everyone.
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>>1515083
I mean yeah. I kind of look at it that way.
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It's preference and conditioning. Some people like the constant stimuli, constant socialization, all the new things you get to see in a city. It's mostly a matter of acclimatizing yourself to it. Personally I can't stand it for more than a week before I need to run off and have some peace somewhere rural.
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>>1514122

I enjoy the city because of all the events, activities and what not you can do.

I guess Ideally I'd want something similar to this anon: >>1514997. Live in a rural area, but still being in 'driving distance' of a large city for things like socializing, events, and what not, every once in a while.
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>>1515096
>constant stimuli
>all the new things you get to see
It's almost as if you people have never been /out/, or at least are clueless as to what is there even when looking right at it.
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>>1514997
this is my ideal, too. I love the convenience that cities provide and it's good to count on being close to competently staffed medical clinics in case anything should happen
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>>1515106
>it's almost as if
Oh dear, the redditors have arrived
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>>1515106
The constant stimuli of a city is not even remotely comparable to the outdoors experience you stupid faggot. This might be the first time a (you) I got was so shitty that I would've preferred nothing at all.
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>>1515158
>calls others "stupid faggot"
>not aware of the far more constant stimuli /out/ provides than the city
>likes cities
>stupid
>faggot
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>>1515159
>likes cities
I specifically said I can't stand even a week in a city before having to run away from it, brain boy.
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>>1515164
>like cities enough to stand them almost a week
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>>1514700
>the countryside is dying for a reason: no jobs

Fixed it for you.
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>>1514997
Same deal for me. Though I think I'd switch the two, I'd rather live in a city that has quick access to good out than live out with good access to the city.

Main reason is because I need to get to work daily, and work is in the city for me. Another reason is that outdoors gives me a slow-burn satisfaction, and the city offers convenient recreation. I need to prep, get in the zone, and hit critical mass for good out satisfaction. That all requires at least a few hours. But I can go to a cafe or a bar in the city if the mood strikes me and get some satisfaction out of it without much primer.
So if I can really only put the time in for good outdooring on the weekend I might as well live in a metro.

Of course it depends on what city you live in. I'm in a city of 1.2 GMA population. Not to big. We also have a lot of urban parkland to tide me over, and traffic isn't heavy so getting out on the weekend is no fuss. Plus its a pretty conservative city so theres not a culture of faggotry or nihilism like in some cities.
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>>1514122
They are sick, weak and indeed conditioned.
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>>1514258
based and greenpilled
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>>1514122
Cities aren't the issue, how people engage with them is. A city isn't far off a jungle, a cliche but whatever, it's pretty spot on. I had a blast living in my countries capital. But I wasn't caught up in a 9-5, had a great group of supportive people around me, got plenty of exercise, and had a very real understanding of what I wanted from being in the city. For context I was a push bike messenger in London. I rode my bike for ~11 hours a day delivering urgent contracts for banks, laweyrs, whoever. This wasn't deliveroo shit, those guys can do one, this was proper old school courier work. My money was pure commission so the faster I rode the more money I made.
I'm naturally not very sociable and am a private individual so have never kept a proper circle of friends around me. However, as a messenger every other rider is your buddy, even if you only ever exchange a nod a week. You feel like you are part of big family and know that if you ever get a puncture, or knocked down, or in trouble, that another messenger would more than likely make sure you were all good.
The bike work meant that I could be in the city but engage with it on a whole different level. It was my playgroun and I was part of the wierd family of oddballs who for whatever reason had also ended up riding a bike for a living. I never had to use public transport, apart from when I was injured I spent all my waking time out on my bike. I got to see the different seasons, experience the weather, explore parts of the city that desk jockies who have been there for 50 years never knew existed. I never had trouble sleeping. My life consisted of eating, sleeping, and riding a bike. It was awesome. However, I'm from the countryside so eventually moved out of the city. While overall I am happier in the countryside as it's what is in my blood I do miss courier work and living in the city. But I would never live there if I wasn't working on a bike.
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>Lives in the city
>Hates the fucking city
GET ME OUT OF HERE
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>>1514122
I'd love to move to the big cities because the countryside is basically none existant in western europe. It's basically a really spread out city with shitty public transport and a bit more green. Nowhere is there true wilderness anymore and you can't camp anywhere that isn't a neutred boomer campsite. The biggest forest here is only 4 square miles for gods sake. It's just farmland, campsites for tourists and some villages and towns, no true nature. Atleast in the city there's stuff to do, more places for higher education and more job offerings. If there was any true nature in ny country and I could somehow sustain myself there I would go.
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Of course there are people who prefer city life. I’ve worked with a number of people who like nothing more than the accoutrements of “civilised” living. Without wanting to be overly critical, I’ve noticed people like that tend to be fairly superficial and often stupid, but that’s not universally true. Some folks can’t think of anything worse than the outdoors. Woods are effectively a “sacred” place for me but, for some, they’re “boring”. Sap, mud, and wildlife make me feel at home but, for others, they’re horrifyingly “dirty”. I’m glad there are folks like that. It would be impossible for find solitude on a hike if there weren’t so many of them!
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The countryside is dying.
Why would I want to live in a dying society?
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>>1515416

If by “dying” you mean ‘becoming even more sparsely populated’ then that’s exactly why. Some people prefer space and solitude to living in a giant polluted ant farm.
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>>1515370
Then get out. Life is pretty short and there's nothing stopping you from moving besides things in your head.
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Ignoring the pointless bickering.
I grew up in a 400 people village, lived there for 20 years then moved to a big city (about half million people), spend the last 9 years here.
So I think I know both sides fairly well.

Though I miss parts of small town/country life, like hiking into the woods to pick berries in the season and such, I currently prefer the city life.
It might not be as calm as my parents place, but offers so much, you just can’t get there:

>more job opportunities
>I’m an engineer for aeronautics, good luck finding a position for that in the bush
>more possibilities for leisure activities and services
>I picked up learning instruments and sports for which there just are no teachers or teams in the country
>greater culinary variety
>not many Japanese, Ethiopian, Brazilian or Persian Restaurants in my home village
>greater pool of people to share hobbies with
>here, there are dozens of groups for all kinds of interests and venues to facilitate them

Next year, I will work in Singapore for a year. Not sure what that will be like, since that is a completely different kind of beast.
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>>1515429
welcome to our pointless bickering
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>>1515437
>>1515429
>informing faggots and retards that they are faggots and retards
>pointless
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>>1515441

>people are wrong because they are retarded faggots
>people are retarded faggot because they are wrong

yeah seems pretty pointless
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>>1515441
>thinking you aren't a retarded faggot to
But you probably r tho
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>>1514196
You are missing the point: who defines what’s good or bad? A city person may define good as what city people do and view a redneck as unequal, and vice versa. They judge each other from their own perspective
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>>1515465
>who defines what’s good or bad?
Me, because I’m right
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>>1515467
ah okay, sorry, I didn't know that
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Living in the country is so fun you make threads like these lol
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>>1514122
I live in the countryside and do remote work and drive to delegations several times a month. I consider that to be the patrician way - not giving a fuck about the shit filled cities while pursuing my carreer of choice.
Walking around with my kids and dog, shitposting on /out/ and condensing moneymaking into several intense days a month.
Not striving for that is like not even trying.
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>>1515429
best thing to do is get a good car and a house in the countryside not farther than an hour from a city. Easy to attend interest groups, get shit from shops, eat out on occasion etc.
But living in a rat factory on the daily, solely to get those things is retarded and bluepilled as well as plebian.
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>>1515532
I’m a different anon but I did this for a while and commuting just sucks after a year. Also no one wants to come out to where you are because there’s “nothing to do” after driving for an hour. Not to mention the limited dating pool and, if you find someone in the city, it’s an inevitable long distance affsir
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>>1515533
I guess it makes much more sense once you settle down with a wifey.
I hang out with people who do like to visit and are /out/ to at least some degree, city folk who think there's 'nothing to do' in the countryside are no friends of mine.
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>>1514122
I'm not much of an /out/ person and I live in NYC but I fucking hate the city and the social events it creates, even though I'm extroverted and love people, I might be sociopathic or something idk
My girlfriend (who was a virgin before me so not a slut like people are saying about OP's girl) it somehow introverted but loves social events like concerts and rallies and karaoke

Anyone have experience detoxifying a woman from this mindset? It's not that I think it's invalid but I wanna live in a rural place at some point and she thinks the city is necessary for her to be happy
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>>1515551
> not invalid
It's invalid. You're not sociopathic, just realize this kind of shit has literally no meaning whatsoever, exactly zero value - comparable to just getting shitfaced or wasting days playing vidya. It's just injecting your brain with happy chemicals while maintaining no connection with nature.
I'd say try to show her alternatives, but don't expect too much, those people are usually poisoned beyond repair.
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fml
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>>1514122
Homo sapiens have been known to be a social species. They enjoy a wide variety of social activities, including gatherings in which they talk to each other about their daily lives, ideas, and other favored activities. During these gatherings, it is common for the Homo sapiens to enjoy consuming alcoholic beverages for it's taste, intoxicating effects, as well as a "social lubricant" for those who may suffer from social anxieties. Homo Sapiens are one of a few species that derives pleasure from mating beyond it's intended breeding purposes. This is another reason some Homo sapiens choose to attend social gatherings, as a means to access others who also enjoy mating without the intent of breeding.

While some Homo sapiens enjoy these gatherings, there are also those who do not enjoy them, and sometimes even despise others that do enjoy these activities. Scientist have found, through study, that this behavior is usually due to mental disorders coupled with traumatic social experiences from their developing years, that cause the individual to become nervous in the presence of others, particularly large groups. When an individual suffers from this social anxiety, is is common that other mental disorders develop along side it, including a fear, hatred, and lack of empathy for those that are superficially different than the individual. These superficial differences cause the disabled individual to experience negative internal stimuli, and this often causes the sufferer to become hostile towards others as a means to escape the negative internal stimuli.
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>>1515568
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>>1515569
>Gets mad pussy
Did my brain crap out or is this not supposed to make sense?
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>>1515568
>low IQ significantly driven by baser physical desires
>spreads STDs
>murders pre birth humans
>advocates/justifies degeneracy
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>>1515581
>Defends incel status by saying it's because everyone else is dumb
>STDs can be easily prevented
>Prolife retard
>thinks sex is degenerate, again because no one will fuck him
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>>1515581
Is this what Incels actually believe? It's cool getting to see the mental gymnastics you people have to go through to justify being a kissless virgin. Just except you're ugly and retarded.
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>>1514122
Some people genuinely enjoy social life. I am not talking of club sluts now, but intelligent people, who like to meet other intelligent people, and talk, and listen, and observe. They are curious, accepting and kind, I personally know a couple of them. I think this is actually how people are supposed to co-exist, too bad most of us are fucked up in one way or another.
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>>1514122
Is it a mental illness?

She's bluepilled and depressed as fuck.

Found your answer yourself, good job.
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>>1514258
People who say this can not be the answer are depressed and bluepilled.
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>>1515467
good to know this was bait
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>>1515581
>I-I-I'm not a loser you guys are just dumber than me!
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>>1515637
Based
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>>1515644
As if you little kidlets have any idea what it even means.
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>>1515637
None of that implies not fucking altogether. There's a difference between actively going out to degenerate locations specifically in search of sex, and letting more selective, quality sex come to you naturally. Firstly, t. been married and kids. But long before that, in middle school, I had the nickname "Tidy Bowl Man" because of losing my virginity (while simultaneously taking hers) in a bathroom. I didn't go looking for her, she came to me, as did all others who followed. She was my friend's girlfriend, met me through him, wouldn't give him pussy so he broke up with her. She then contacted me specifying she wished for me to be her first. Her and the next several were all tanned blonde virgins, so no STDs. And though pregnancy prevention precautions were taken, I never mated with one I wasn't willing to procreate with should the methods fail. I also actually got to know and develop deep human bonds with each. Any immediate whores were rejected.

Anyone who is truly based, should never be thinking "I am going to go and put myself into social situations in degenerate locations in hope of finding a fuck", and in fact should rarely need to think about sex at all, as all of that should naturally take care of itself and come to you with no specifically oriented thought or action required. Your mind time is then freed for knowledge and skill acquisition and development.
>>1515568
Pic related.
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>>1515556
From what I know wahmen have never generally liked nature even when they were in it as hunter gatherers, I really don't expect experience to show her why it's better
All I want to do is convince her city life is bad for her, and her response is always "muh it's what makes me happy" which is just annoying desu
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>>1515771
Wow, so noble. You are a superior gentleman. No wonder all the woman chase you. You are so wise and humble. The way you live your life is the only right way to live, that is undeniable.
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>>1515568
The second paragraph is self-descriptive projecting, you're describing yourself.

>>1515587
>>1515590
Murder is wrong.
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>>1514295
>who hurt you sweaty?
Literally twitter thot tier.
>>1514258
This, people aren't going to venues and events every few days and not engaging in degenerate acts. No wonder why she is depressed.
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>>1514122
go wipe your ass with some leaves and die from dysentery you ape
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>>1515810
No it's not.
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>>1514258
facts
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>>1514122
A city is a giant playground if you're comfortably middle class, or supported by your parents.
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>>1514122
>city life

It's lonely af, desu. I say this as a DCfag.
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>>1514122
They're soulless. Cityfolk are artificial because their environment is artificial. The ontology of industrial life necessarily breeds liberal values because they're completely disconnected from the real world. All their food and water and security and shelter needs are outsourced. Literally the most survival experience city folk will ever get is running into a pack of niggers in an ally or making dinner. The price of the world is the loss of your soul.
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>>1514122

My wife is a city girl, raised in Cardiff. I was raised in a very rural farming community. She wants to live in a city, I want to live in the country. We compromised by living at the edge of a moderate sized market town which is a very short hop to Dartmoor and five minutes from lots of beaches. I would honestly love to move further away down to Cornwall for the fishing, but she'd never agree.
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I just had to leave my hillbilly haven and drive family to the airport. Even the relatively smaller ones (but much larger than the three towns in my county) along the way were insufferable. All city people should be gassed.
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I'm in a very big city and it's a little stressful but not terrible.
The problem with clapistan is that the vast majority of small towns are full of misdirected people whose intelligence and understanding of virtue is on par with those of an inner city nigger ape. Maybe this isn't the case for wealthy small towns, but how will I manage to live there without the job opportunities to sustain it?
On the other hand, most of my neighbors in the city know each other by name, are friendly and always happy to help, look out for each other etc. it feels like a healthy community. Decent /out/ is always an hour or two drive away as well, and I always have an array of interesting people to talk to and connections to make.
I get what the appeal is, but realistically living out in the styx would blow unless your goal is complete and utter isolation. It seems like by doing that you're willingly stunting your growth.
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>>1514258
Anon is right, Op.
And you are a fag. Forget the roastie and take a hike.
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>>1514122
I genuinely enjoy both, it's different things and there's time for both. I'm atm a student and live in a big city, maybe one day I will not. There's also in betweens in Europe, tiny nice central cities
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>>1515024
you're that typically suburban asshole who sits in grid lock each holiday to get to his cottage which is completely surrounded by other idiot suburbanites who buy giant bags of costco burgers, have a bbq and declare themselves 'outdoorsmen'

your way of life is destroying the planet

please stay in the city where YOU belong
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>>1515024
>But as a young person, if you don't like the city, then you're missing out on the play of life.
As a person who has lived in large cities my whole life, you are an idiot and your idea of "life" is perverse.
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Cities are where the most major shit that fucks everything up come from. Stock markets, corporate rulers, mass "news", "opinion" implants and enforcement, homogenization tentacles that spread strip malls, stores, fast food and other such bullshit all across the lands. They spread themselves ever further outward, devouring more and more natural lands. They have degenerate fag parades. Fuck cities and the people in them.
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>live in big east coast city for a while
>It's fine
>live in a small suburban town for a while
>It's fine
>live innawoods for a while
>It's fine
y'all need to get a grip, desu. People who cry about how cities are evil are just as bad as stacies who talk about how much they just love the big city OMG it's so exciting.

City has it's appeal. Innawoods has it's appeal. They both have downsides, depends on what you want out of life. I'm not surprised that autistic can't cope with overstimulation and forced socialization though.
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>>1518430
Millennials idea of the good life is wage slaving, buying chinkshit, hating their parents, eating shitty exotic food prepared by diseased criminals and engaging in perverted sex.
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Anyone who thinks city life is "fine" is mentally ill, and more so to whatever degree pro city above "fine" they are willing to go. There's nothing "fine" about them and they are ruining the entire planet.
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I like spending time in the city every now and then when it's a
>brisk summer night with friends/family
or
>cold, foggy, rainy winter/autumn night all alone
I couldn't stand living in a city though
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>>1518906
You mean boomers?
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>>1514122
you're retarded m8.
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I love going /out/ on the reg and live in a fairly big city (Portland, oregon).
I also love going to bars, seeing live music, eating at a variety of delicious restaurants, making new friends, etc.

Being a retard social hermit isnt something to boast about on the internet idk why you guys take peide in being losers
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Some people acclimate differently to different kinds of stimulation. Some need more of it, some need less of it.
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>>1514122
Well, first we'd have to get our definitions straight on what a city is, but assuming population size rather than density as a determining factor (which widens our focus beyond the beehive type mega cities) then I'd say this:
If you're middle to upper-middle class wealthy there's plenty of small to mid-size cities all over the globe where you can lead a good and meaningful life to the extent we know what that is. As far as I can tell, city life is best when there's a delicate equilibrium of nature and sophisticated culture (architecture, cooking, music and so on). However, you need quite a bit of money to be able to access that culture to a meaningful degree - unlike rural culture, which is not as complex but more democratic. So if you're not making much and you don't enjoy your job (these usually come hand in hand) city life is not really worth it.
Either way, community is a determining factor for the overwhelming majority of people. Humans are social creatures, evolutionary speaking. In rural environments healthy communities seem to cluster around structures of intimacy (your family, extended family, and being somewhat familiar with a group of 100 people or so) and in urban environments they seem to cluster around structures of preference (large dynamic groups of people who share in roughly the same culture and outlook). Either seem valid or at the very least it is not immediately obvious which to discard based on their ability to produce happiness and/or meaning for the individuals who inhabit them.

tldr. community is always important, don't live in the city if you're poor.
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>>1514122
People like that are intertwined in the social update world. They need to be on the bleeding edge of the latest updates in their greater social circle, which seems to get larger as time goes on and the social media networks take on new forms. It's fine though, more quiet spaces to explore for the rest of us.
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>>1518906
>Hurmph hurmph hurmph
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>>1514310
milky milky come to daddy
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>>1515771
>flexing this hard on a mongolian pottery forum
Wew lad, I get your point but come on
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why are you guys so obsessed with sex, is it because you're all kids?
I've had a gf for 5 years, by this point we'll have sex a few times a month maybe
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>>1520994
Why are you obsessed with sex? Why is your gf a used up whore with no value? Why are you with her when she has a barren womb?
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>>1514258
>he can't appreciate art
>he can't appreciate architecture
>he can't appreciate live music
>he can't appreciate fine dining
>he literally can't imagine being in a different environment without morally devolving.
>he is pretending like rural areas aren't suffering from their own drug abuse, and opioid epidemics
>he pretends that farm kids don't get pissed up all. The. Fucking. Time.
>he pretends that country girls aren't huge sluts in their own rite.

Are you just some suburban 14 year old who's romanticized rural living or just being ignorant in order to support your biases?

There are obviously pros and cons to both city and country and saying that one is inherently evil and one is inherently good is naive. Anyone who is actually acquainted to both know there are just as many nihilistic pleasure seeking drones in either context, they just take different forms.
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>>1515793
Thats a load of bullshit, ive seen equal interest from both genders when it comes to camping and hiking.

If she doesnt like nature you can realize your actual job and train her into liking it and she will thank you for saving her.
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>>1520994
Do you not like sex?
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>>1521018
I wouldn't trade a single morning on my trapline for any of your bustle bullshit.
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>>1521029
That's awsome. I'm honestly happy for anyone who is comfortable in their current context and there is nothing wrong with personal preference.

I can appreciate both, I just think it's arrogant or naive to say it's so black-and-white as "rural good, city evil" or vice versa.
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>>1514122
They are retarded. We need an American /Pol/ Pot to empty out the cities and force people back into genuine living.
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>>1521069
It's the oldest civil war there is. There are going to be partisan opinions.
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>>1514122
People like different things OP, it's fine.
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>>1515294

name of the city? also please tell me it's in europe

i near in Bologna, italy. it's like a oversized town with access to the hills in 30 mins by walking

the problem is the faggotry as it's a very lefty city
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>>1521018
I can certainly appreciate both as well. While I prefer smaller town and rural living I can appreciate a visit to a nearby city to see a band or hit up an outdoors store or take my girl on a fancy dinner date. You're also right in that rural areas face their share of poverty and drug/alcohol abuse. I grew up in a poor rural area and saw pills and liquor kill so many good people out there.
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>>1520990
If no one sets a proper example for the fatherless and poorly fathered, then who will? I could have written volumes of detail to help guide them more precisely were this not simply a quick post on a nip wannabe autism support newsgroup. I tried to pack as much of the essence as I could into a can of concentrate that could hopefully be mixed into a full pitcher by anyone astute enough to mine the value, which I doubt will occur, but I can die knowing I made the attempt. Granted, my example isn't the truly ideal "proper", but it's obviously far superior to the one their sperm donors were capable of.
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>>1514258
this but unironically



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