I like skeleton knives. What's your type?
Moras and Ka-Bars are nice.
I carry an opinel as a pencil sharpener and I like my condor products even though they're heavy as shit.
>>1507797>leather pocket organizer >kydex holster for a scalple The suburbanite load out.
>>1507810Scalpels can be useful, but FUCK, these god damn kydex sheaths. They ruin everything.
>>1507818>Scalpels can be useful,
>>1507822What's your point?
>>1507823That scalpels have none.
>>1507826Just because you can't batonny chop chop with them? As a small, light weight cutting tool, they're great.
>>1507827>As a small, light weight cutting tool, they're great.Worse than a SAK, or a pocket knife. And if you want to be an edgelord you can just buy a boxcutter.
>>1507810That's called a wallet and I live in the mountains and fuck you but.... But... Okay
>>1507835>idiot who doesn't realize what a good cutting tool needs
>>1507837Ya a floppy disposable blade is great for the outdoors.
>>1507834I was thinking maybe it was also a combo axe sheath, that would have been cool, if a bit weird, guess not. Hunting knives are more my thing, though lately I've been wanting a 6-12" full tang scandi ground supersteel one tool knife. Just because my tools are adequate to excellent for what they're for IDK if I want to walk out innawoods with a full bushkekker kit every time. I want a knife that can do the bushkekker shit, deal with zombies, do kitchen shit and look good doing it. Is that too much to ask?
>>1508007This. So much this, a thousand times this.
>>1507996I had a Benchmade Bushcrafter but I eventually decided a full blown Bushcrafter knife was just unnecessary for anything other than larp and besides i can do anything with an izula I could do with that knife if I really want too and you can't sharpen supersteel on a river rock. The scalpel is my hunting/fishing knife. This guy spouting off is a degenerate everyone who hunts these days uses a havalon they use the same blades Kestrels not reinventing the wheel here
>>1507818This kydex sheath is very strange. Is very thin and marketed as ultralight. It's semi flexible and doesn't seem to dull the blade whatsoever it is dangerously sharp
>>1508013An Izula is a bit lacking in the zombie killing department, and yes I'm totally looking for a larper blade.Every time I go /out/ I'm larping to some degree.Do I *need* to build a basecamp, hunt, fish, walk miles into the backcountry hauling all kinds of unnecessary shit? Fuck no. I do it anyway. I like big blades and I cannot lie.
>>1508024Not my style but I can't recommend esee enough. Get a 6
>>1508024Hunting fishing and camping aren't larping my friend. They're part of being an American man
For some reason those scalpels always remind me of kitchen paring knives with sheaths. I just use a locking folder as my knife, for everything. I'm not doing...whatever use guys use all these knives for.What do you use a scalpel knife for out?Just wondering.>>1508013>The scalpel is my hunting/fishing knife.How, for.. I don't get what that means? You fillet fish with a scalpel?
>>1507819is this the cutting edge im looking at or is it the back of the knife?
>>1508159>How, for.. I don't get what that means? You fillet fish with a scalpel?Ummm yeah he does. If scalpels weren’t useful for skinning and disecting, surgeons would probably use something else, right?
>>1508223Last time I checked, surgeons don't typically skin people. And when they do, they have specialized tools for that. Surgical scalpels are dedicated cutting tools.>inb4 muh batonny chop chop
>>1508229>Last time I checked, surgeons don't typically skin peopleMaybe not in your pussified country
>>1508245Where the fuck do you live, anon?
>>1508178It's the spine.
>>1508248Mexico, probably.>>1508229You’re telling me that you’ve never heard of or seen a hunter skin a deer with a disposable scalpel? If there were any knives capable of fine meat and skin work, it would be scalpels.
>>1508270>You’re telling me that you’ve never heard of or seen a hunter skin a deer with a disposable scalpel?Nah, I haven't. I've never went on a hunt, and I haven't seen a whole lot of videos where people do that, so I'm clearly just underexposed.
>>1508270>skin a deer with a disposable scalpelthat's one of the easiest way to ruin a skin. to skin, you need a somewhat blunt blade that doesn't cut into the skin accidentaly, otherwise tanning the skin well is almost impossible. disposable scalbels are the exact opposite of that.
>>1507797Mora fixed, CRKT folder, or a dive knife
>>1508317Lol thanks for chiming in YouTube expert. Your armchair observations are always appreciated
>>1507797As dumb as it sounds, this is quickly becoming my favorite knife. Works well for everything I need it to, and I never have to worry about the blade. Beat the shit out of it and when it's spent just turn the blade around/throw it out. Blades are cheap, last forever and an old tobacco tin holds more than you could ever use on one trip. I also carry an old fox fixed blade from my grandpa but that is mostly because it's grandpa's not cause it's particularly more useful.
>>1508543It's not dumb at all. I've used box cutters when I'm just cutting soft plant and fungal matter for ages now.
>>1508317What Im going to say might come as a surprise (as youre legitimately retarded), but skinning and gutting dulls a blade a lot, it its a large animal. So either the knife has to be really really sharp to begin with, or lets say, a sort of dedicated knife for that purpose - a skinning knife or a scalpel. I know /out/ isnt predominantly concerned with hunting, thats more /k/, but the amount of stupidity here amazes me sometimes
>>1508634>a skinning knife or a scalpelTwo very different tools indeed.
>>1508270>You’re telling me that you’ve never heard of or seen a hunter skin a deer with a disposable scalpel?I saw a YouTube where a guy skins a see with a small folding knife, basically to prove that skinning sets are necessary which is a given.
Watching y'all argue about the usefulness of this knife that will literally cut circles around any other knife on the planet.... This nogga rambling about skin quality??? Bruh I butcher gutless and leave the skin what are you Pocahontas? You gonna make some slippers with the hide? Nigger no STFU it's beyond me I should have know what I was getting into when I made this thread because like I said %99 of hunters use these nobody on out goes out tho..... Except me I guess? And that nigga pepso
>>1508785>this knife that will literally cut circles around any other knife on the planetblocks your path
>>1508887That looks sharp but it's not scalpel sharp and I'll never have to sharpen mine
>>15089500.003'' thick behind the edge is more than scalpel-sharp. You need to take into account what grit you sharpen at, but aside from occasionally stropping the knife, I haven't sharpened it in over a year, despite using it regularly in the kitchen.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZeSgeXZ4O8
>>1508785I've stayed out of this so far, but scalpels are shit teir at anything that doesn't involve slicing through flesh. This includes skinning. You show me one professional trapper or skinner who has ever used a scalpel or a scalpel like knife to skin his furs, you won't find one because they ruin the pelt if you even get close to it. Scalpels have a place, but unless you are performing surgery innawoods that place is not in your /out/ gear. It literally underperforms in every category outside of slicing flesh, and its not even the undisputed king of that (no one is using a scalpel in place of a filet knife for cleaning fish for example, and you will be slicing till your hands cramp trying to slaughter anything bigger than a rabbit because it doesn't have much bite). If you like the ability to swap out blades get a utility knife. If you like having some flexibility in the blade get a fillet knife. If you like the razor sharp edge get literally any high carbon blade and learn to sharpen it well. And for gods sake if you blan on doing some skinning, get a skinning knife.
>>1509169ITT people with strong opinions they got on the web telling themselves scalpels aren't sharp and telling an outdoorsman he's dumb for using the exact same blade every hunting guide in America would recommend if asked. ITT is 4chan
>>1509307Link me to one professional trapper/skinner/guide endorsing this scalpel as the best in the feild who wasn't payed to do so. You keep making this claim that the vast majority of people use this scalpel over more traditional knives more suited for various specific tasks, but I both know nobody nor have heard of any unsponsored endorsements from people who uses any type of scalpel for anything outside of medical and veterinary work with the exception of leather workers who claim its hell on the blades and people doing precise taxidermy work which warrants the use of such an instrument. It's pretty well accepted in the medical feild that scalpels dull out quick on fatty connective tissue so I highly doubt they are useful for skinning.
>>1509386Everyone uses size 60A stainless blades on their havalon pirantas. There are plenty of videos of professional hunters using reviewwing and endorsing that knife. This uses the same blade. They dull slower than 1095 which is my only reference point. Maybe you're just homosexual have you considered that?
>>1509386They stay sharp plenty long and if it does get dull... I pop in a new blade! How do you not get it? Are there weiners in your eye holes?
>>1509386It's not even worth discussing my girls grandad turned me on to havalons and I gravitated towards this cause it's just my style. Hes a gold medalist shooter and Olympic ref and cut the trails we walk himself 50 years ago with the dnr and goes on literally 100 hunting trips a year but what does he know? Nothing compared to you of course, cause you read something on the internet. It's like arguing with a genuine retard. If you hunted you'd be firmiliar with havalon. You don't hunt though you larp. Probably think cleaning an elk involves batoning bones with a Bushcrafter knife
>>1507818ooga booga fellow indian man, i also like skinning white men
>>1507797>knives. What's your type?these always get the job done
I just got one my cheap-o mora to shaving sharpness for the first time. Pretty proud of myself desu
I just use a mora for most things and opinel for food prepI also edc a rat 1 for when i need to stab someone
>>1510364>folding knife for self defenceOk.
>>1510366I never said self defence retard
>>1510369>for when i need to stab someoneAre you a murderer?
>>1510370I dont think so
>>1507797I got an Opinel №10 with a corkscrew for cooking and eating and a Morakniv somethingorother for dirtier stuff like cutting paracord.
>>1510382How's the quality of those Opinels? I kind of want one, but based on pictures, they look kind of flimsy.
>>1510414I have the same one for 5 years cuz i lost a previous oneThey are pretty goodCoat the wood in mineral oil first
>>1510422>coat the wood in mineral oilWhy's that? Would Ballistol work?
>>1510424Any good quality oil will do. I use olive oil on mine, or you could varnish them but I did that once to an axe and it made the haft all sticky and bugs got trapped in the varnish.
>>1510439Alright. Thanks for the information.
>>1510414fun fact, an opinel wil outperform 99% of knives regularly posted on /out/ just because of the geometry, and their carbon steel (c100) is comparable to 1095, and takes a good edge.Only thing that you can expect to cut better are knives like>>1508887, but that's 80 dollars for you, and pic related is ~200 (more like 165, but i'm including shipping).
>>1510526Interesting. Thanks, mang.
>>1510526You are right, geometry cuts. Opinels and Calton make great knives with great geometry's. The issue is a lot of people believe they need very overbuilt knives for tasks that could be accomplished with opinel or one of these Calton paring knives. Also because of the thin edge they are a pleasure to use. You can easily make shavings for the fire or cut food up with opinel. Mora would also be a great knife in not the "scandi" grind disadvantage. Of course you can't baton with opinel but if you want a knife for splitting wood you should get something else.
>>1510526>opinel99% of chinkshit dollar store paring knives will outperform your trash tier flimsy frog folder, I'll never understand why people fanboi so hard for them. Must be iphone users.>disposable bladesFFS learn how to steel a knife, it takes less than a minute.
>>1512720>>Probably uses some sort of army knife and thinks its super important for knives to have a full tang and be 2 pound bars of steel
>>1512725>Brings an arts and crafts knife /out/ expects to be taken seriously
>>1512720>I'll never understand why people fanboi so hard for thembecause they are super light - the light wood handle hardly weighs anything. The locking collar is quite a reliable lock - more than a backlock or liner/frame lock.Also, most Opinels are ~2mm thick, with great geometry, and their carbon steel takes a great edge with little effort. Mors also likes them because they are "very sparky", and cheap as dirt to boot.The bigger ones, like a 9 or a 10 are great for both whittling, and foor prep, and 7 or 8 make good edc/lightweight backup innawoods.Calling Opinel trash-tier is next level stupid.
>>1512747Opinel is one of the best knives you can get for the money. Comparing it to most chink knives is unreasonable. Actually because of the geometry it would out cut most of the Spyderco, Benchmade and other higher end makers knives. It definetelly has some negatives.Wooden handle swells up from moisture, becomes hard to open.No one hand openingLock is not as easy to engage and disengage as a modern folder.Even then it is a great knife and cheap so if you lose it is not a lot of money.
>>1512720>not knowing what you're talking about
>>1512894yer just another obstinate sidewalk shitting fudge packing gayboi, your opinion is worth less than the shit you leave behind.
>>1513236Posting anime gifs and being out are mutually exclusive. I'm revoking your man card. I think opiniels are trash too bud but when you bring your chink shit in here you need to go on and get. We don't serve your kind around here boy
>>1513300>I'm revoking your man card. You're a faggot if you care so much of what another guy does, that you "revoke his mancard" like wtf dude, are you 19 or some shit?
>>1513236Not an argument.
>>1513318I can't hear you. I can only hear card carrying white men oka Americans. Go take a onions milk bath you fuckin homo sex
>>1508029is a phrobis m9 good for bushcraftin'? I may have to sharpen it, mine is fairly dull
>>1508212No one asked for your opinion, lady.
>>1512741Maybe anon is doing arts and crafts, there's nothing wrong with that.
>>1507797skeletons+knifes are cute asf
>>1508176Bill the butcher over here
>>1514731i wonder if bones can sharpen knives
>>1514977You could possibly use them to strop/hone the edge, as they are fairly hard.
>>1514500Op here. I actually did ask for everyone's opinion. I love esees more than anything but everyones entitled to their opinion
>>1510235Lol what job? You doing fucking hot knives?
>>1510341Scandi is the best begginer sharpening grind for sure
I love my knives but bushcraft knives are for straight consumerist hoes. If you're using a knife for something you COULD do with a hatchet, you SHOULD be using a hatchet. Knives are for detail/finesse. Bushcraft knives might as well be dildos
>>1515074take care of your hatchet bruh
>>1515156It's sharper than any knife you own princess. If you mean the rust, there's literally no reason to give a shit it's not a piece of jewelry it's an outdoors tool and unlike you I USE MY SHIT
>>1515190>buying into the patina meme
>>1515156Vintage axe heads like that are extremely high in carbon. There is no cleaning it of rust the damn things made if rust, but it'll outperform any of y'all's flashy bushcraft knives overpriced hulfatwhores axes/hatchets
>>1515191You're such a retarded faggot. I didn't make it rust on purpose. My knives all have coatings I'm op. Patina is something for gay ass Bushcraft knife collectors who'd rather play with a tool than ever use it
>>1515197Obviously you did. Avoiding rust is the easiest thing in the world. You should just take better care of your shit.
>>1515190>>1515193couldn't you take steel wool and remove the rust and reblue or do something else to get a new coating on it and maybe fucking oil it once in a while?
>>1515207He's a larper, so that's really not an option.
>>1515205I found that in my grandfather's toolbox and rehafted it today, then immediately found a use for it. It's been sitting in the same place since my sixty five year old father left for college the handle was completely rotted through. There is no reason to take that rust off at all.give me one sensible reason to clean it? Seriously go ahead why the FUCK would I clean it?
>>1515210>>1515205>>1515074>There is no reason to take that rust off at all.give me one sensible reason to clean it? Seriously go ahead why the FUCK would I clean it?Only hacks, brown people, and hipsters use dirty tools.
>>1515209AAAJAHAJAHA i do more out in a week than %99 does in a year. PS the rust comes off WITH USE AHAAHAHAAJAA AND I A LARPER? AAAJAAHAHA
>>1515210The cleaning part isn't as important as the whole oiling thing. That is, if you wish to keep it "sharper than any knife I own".
>>1515214>having a mental breakdown over a fucking axe
>>1515212Cleaning an axe is like cleaning a shovel. You're literally mentally deficient, literally larping as we speak. You know nothing
>>1515217Thinks laughing at something is a mental breakdown. Has no human contact. Will die alone
>>1515216And how is oil going to make my tomahawk sharper?
>>1515220It's because when he laughs he is alone in his room probably looking at a rekt thread in some containment board actually having a mental breakdown. Don't hate him. Pity him
>>1515221The oil doesn't make it sharper, but in bladed implements made of carbon steel, it prevents the microscopic rusting of the edge itself.
>>1515207Why would i buy steel wool and buy a bluing agent when it simply won't effect performance even one percent of one percent? This is the consumerist faggotry I'm talking about. Go oil your dild- I mean Bushcraft knife
>>1515227You should go oil your axe, actually.
>>1515214everyone come look at this man
>>1515223While slamming my hatchet as hard as I can into a variety of objects which it is designed to destory I someone forget to worry about problems you need a microscope to see... you massive faggot
>>1515230>being this fucking denseIt gets dull over time. Because of the rust you're too autistic to pay attention to.
>>1515232It gets dull way faster FROM UUUSSEEE!!!! only an edge that's NEVER USED would need to worry about the fucking water in the air slowly decaying it you're literally admitting to being a collector/larper but you're too dumb to see it. A user will get dull and be sharpened five times before a knife sitting in someone's collection will slowly desintigrate. You really should kill yourself
>>1515234Sure it does. But you don't use it 24/7, do you? Based on your autistic screeching in this thread, I'd say you've never used it, and only keep it around because>muh axe
>>1515237I'm not autistic. Dealing with you autistic people makes my head hurt. The stupidity is immeasurable. I don't own a single tool I don't use
>>1515237And you don't use a single tool you own
>>1515238Sounds like a load of bullshit to me.
>>1515237I use it enough to make everything you have to say completely useless and retarded
>>1515241Okay princess hahaha whatever helps you sleep at night
>>1515245Thanks, it's been fun.
>>1515249No mam. I'll kill scalp you with that rusty hatchet for your insolence and let you live so you have to get a tetanus shot
>>1515256I don't get it.... Is that a fat joke? My pic is half visible and I'm obviously sexy as all get out
>>1515255Why are you posting a picture of your purse?
>>1515259Stop projecting. Everyone loves my new wallet except my girlfriend/mom and probably females/ onions boys in general
>>1515260That's literally the gayest shit I've ever seen.
>>1515260Onions is now extracted from onions
>>1515261Keeps swinging in the dark. Every single time I pull it out I get a compliment usually "that so badass where can i get one?"
>>1515260You'd probably think my $200 coach wallet this replaced was gay too. You're just poor, it's okay. Poor people are like niggers, I know you don't know any better
>>1515263I highly doubt that.
>>1515269This high strung lesbian I used to carpool to middle School with used to say that alot. God almighty did everyone despise that bitch
>>1515263It is badass where can I get one?
>>1515277From knives ship free boyo
>>1515234Rust doesn't create a barrier that prevents further rusting, your hatchet will rust more beneath the existing rust until you're left with a brittle piece of shit.Take care of your tools.
>>1515270I highly doubt that.
Guys really though what's the point of showering if I'm just gonna get dirty again, y'know?
>>1515347Lol maybe in a hundred years IF it was never used. Kill yourself
>>1508785Are you OP? I had this same argument before here. Somebody said something about my Havalon not being a hunting knife because a hunting knife was generally a 6-12" fixed blade. The fixed blade I also use when I feel like it isn't even 6". I'm not in the US either so I'm not a one whitetail a year guy like most here. Just quietly enjoy being right Anon. Not everyone's a cry baby here.
>>1515526Yeah it just blows my mind. These people are so retarded it's like trying to convince someone whose on fire to jump in the water but they pour gasoline all over themselves instead. Willful ignorance at it's finest. What kind of phsycho uses a foot long blade for hunting? That's the dumbest thing. I can't imagine a single reason to need more than 3.5 inches at most, anything more would get in the way. I prefer blades under 2.5 for Christ's sake even 3.5 gets in the way...
>>1515526>>1515561Keep in mind that "hunting knife" is an old term that refers to any knife that is large enough to be used as a weapon in case you miss or fail to take down your target, which then turns aggressive, with your single-shot rifle.
>>1515526I've got some 7 inch fillet blades from tyto otw fir the Kestrels. You need a longer blade for a small fish than a whole elk. These niggers don't exist inside reality though
>>1515566If you need to kill an elk/bear/ even a whitetail buck with a knife... You're already dead buddy
>>1515576Yeah, I'm not defending the practice, but that was their intention back in the day. Back in the days of the trapdoor springfields and such.
>>1507797Op, you might as well buy pic related-
>>1515591It's awfully pricey for what it is. Of course the same could be said of my Izzy.... On a smaller scale of course... Does Spartan have the magical warranty I'm used to? I've broken and replaced my esee twice already, that's priceless to me
A good ol’ Morakniv. I don’t know a single man that doesn’t have at least two of these at home.
>>1515669My knife right there, the Kansbol. As far as dedicated cutting tools go, this is about the best.
>>1515656It's too expensive, too thick and too goddamn sexy.Not $150 sexy for a slab of steel doe.
>>1515669yo fag this thread is skellington only
>>1515675Op actually has... Lemme think... Three basics, an eldris/kansbol/robust/ and a pro s. Had I should say. I gave them all away when I realized the Norland hatchet I already had outperformed them all. Bushcraft knives are a meme
>>1515675Yeah, and those are shit, so we're staging a coup.
>>1515676You don't know what knives are for, do you?
>>1515675I had a silky saw too. Gave it away. Much easier to sharpen a hatchet than a saw
>>1515679Yeah, you don't need an axe. Those are memes.
>>1515680My skeleton knives don't enter into my Bushcraft. I can do anything you can do with your saw/bushcraft knife combo faster and with one tool. You also have to carry around a baton. What not jst attach the blade to the baton and have a hatchet?
>>1515679>Much easier to sharpen a hatchet than a sawwtf you saw with it?
>>1515676While I do agree that "bushcraft knives" are a meme, that doesn't mean you should ditch knives altogether for a much less efficient cutting tool like the aforementioned hatchet.
>>1515682its ok for car camping. but not for the real deal.
>>1515685I'm op I haven't ditched knives. I cut with my knives. A bushcraft knife however is a wedge, and a hatchet makes a better wedge. If I only plan on needing to cut (hunting fishing) I leave the hatchet behind. It's a dedicated do all wood working tool
>>1515682Precision is one reason for using a saw in addition to whatever bladed implement you have.A saw also cuts through wood way faster than a hatchet chops through it. If it doesn't, you're just using a shitty saw.>You also have to carry around a batonNo, that's kind of the point of batoning, you can use whatever you find innawoods as a baton. It's not a permanent part of your kit.
>>1515686Tell that to otzi the ice man you collosal faggot. You have been duped by marketing ploys and are a larping collector,not an outdoorsman
>>1515689Well, that's good, at least. Attempting to do something like gutting a fish with a hatchet is just autistic.
>>1515693Are you trying to compare bronze age equipment to modern steel? Is that what's going on here?
>>1515690A) I don't need percision cut firewood lolB) silk saws are the best on the market, and my hatchet dies the sae job faster every time. If you're having a different experience your hatchet is dull and you are weakC) my point is you're retarded while you're tying awkwardly hold a piece of wood still with your knife and hit it with a stick I just tap my hatchet to set it and split the log with one hand.
>>1515697>firewoodThis is about bushcrafting, not chopping fucking firewood.>my hatchet does the same job faster every timeNo, it fucking doesn't.>awkwardly holding a piece of wood stillIt's quite simple, really. You just have to not be fucking retarded.
>>1515695I'm saying unless physics have changed all you need to survive (or in his case be murdered) in the harshest of environments is a hatchet and a small knife for detail work
>>1515699It's my thread you don't decide what it's about Debra
>>1515701No, physics haven't changed, but the materials we make our tools out of have. That's a pretty important factor.
>>1515697>and you are weak
>>1515699No real outdoorsman would be caught dead batoning with a knife. Maybe a froe on their own property but never an over built knife they dragged into the backcountry
>>1515702>muh threadOh, the fucking autism.
>>1515705What's this "real outdoorsman" shit? I didn't know there was a set of fucking rules.
>>1515707There are no rules just one stipulation, you have to go out. No one who batons has ever been more than a days walk from mommys tit
>>1515706He's not wrong go start a bushcraft thread if that's your inclination
>>1515703Ie now my hatchet and knife are made of steel instead of bronze and stone. As far as for goes if it ain't broke don't fix it
>>1515709OR, you just never learned how to keep a fire going without the need of a hatchet. There's always that option, you know.
>>1515713I'm sorry, what? Do you not understand that you can do things with modern steel that you can't do with bronze or stone?
>>1515715I don't bring it in backpacking trips I can start a fire without any cutting edge. Dedicated fire knives are a larp/collector/hobby thing. Just accept it. Love yourself baby girl, nobodys perfect
>>1515718I'm not talking about fucking dedicated fire knives, though. Don't jump to conclusions like a moron.
>>1515716Form* I mean to say there's a reason otzi wasn't carrying a big bronze bushcraft knife. He had a hatchet and a delicate knife. The future just means better edge retention/ durability. it doesn't change philosophy of use
>>1515720That's what a bushcraft knife is whether youre in denial or not. A kitchen knife will outperform a bushcraft knife in EVERYTHING but fire making. That's the only reason they exist
>>1515722The materials available do change the tools and their philosophy of use, yeah. Why do you think things like longswords don't really appear until the late middle ages?
>>1515726Are you schizophrenic?
>>1515729Link me to a video showcasing a bushcraft knife that shows use but that doesnt touch in fire making and I will suck your dick.
>>1515727I don't think about that because I'm not a LARPER. And for you faggots who think working tools can't handle a little of the ole oxidation here's twenty someodd perfectly functional reasons for you to kill yourselves
>>1515786Inb4 "Guys he doesn't have a mirror polish on his hole digger we oughta lynch this nigger!"
>>1515786More like you don't think about it because you're fucking dumb, and you wouldn't understand either way.>>1515776In all fairness, those don't exist, because guess what, firemaking is just one of many things a knife is useful for.
>>1515800>Thinks knives are more useful for processing wood than axes>Has the nerve to call anyone else retarded
>>1515805>>Thinks knives are more useful for processing wood than axesNo one ever said that. You need to work on your reading comprehension. Retard.
>>1515807Oh my lord that's been the whole issue. What is bushcraft if not wood working?
>>1515808Knives being better than axes was never the issue, you fucking dolt. The issue is that retards like yourself don't see that knives can serve as a stand-in for axes for certain tasks. Which is why many people choose to carry a larger knife instead of an axe, because there's a greater chance that you will need the knife, and the axe is just dead weight at that point.
>>1515726this anon is right. stop booing him!
>>1515823>Carries a large knife>Has the nerve to call anything else dead weight
>>1515786LMFAO its the rusty hatchet faggot hahahado you have a fetish for rendering your tools less effective?not treating steel with oil is just lazy, its so fucking easy. I get it on some minor tools but how lazy can one based retard be?
>>1515829>Less effectiveHow's that? How does a mirror polish help my hole digger dig holes?
>>1515832the scissors style tools (x4) and hatchet would benefit from you know, not having rusted cutting/cleaving edges
>>1515832and i'll concede for many if not most tools, not treating the steel is fine. hole digger is a good example
>>1515829I don't know anyone in real life that has ever put oil on a non mechanical tool. Y'all are just playing with toys there's no reason to oil an axe. I would paint one before doing that
>>1515833Any and all my tools will dull and be sharpened multiple times from use long before rust ever dulls them. This is strictly a collector/LARPER/antique restoration problem
>>1515828A large knife weighs way less than any hatchet. It's not my problem that you don't know how to use a knife.
>>1515836>i don't know anyone who does something, therefore, that thing is not a thingFucking kill yourself, retard.
>>1515853>Uses a knife to split logs>Thinks I don't understand the use of a knife
>>1515856You don't know anyone in general Dr basement-larper MD
>>1515853My hatchet weighs exactly as much as a bk2, the quintessential knife that would fill the same role. You're wrong retarded and probably were convieved through means of sodomy
I really need to poop. Aslo I starting to think these angry Bois are just jealous of my superior gear/philosophy of use. It's easy enough to tell yourself you just collect bushcraft knives cause you lie them but knowing my ugly free hatchet from ages ago outperforms every overengineered new age metal dildo in your collection must burn. Knowing my skeleton knives outperform them at knife centered tasks must reeeaaallly burn yalls biscuits
>>1515876>cucks himself by using a hatchet instead of a large knife
>>1515908a hatchet would be more useful in CQB, carry a small, lightweight cutting knife for other uses you absolute knobnot even British but you just sound like a textbook fucking wankeri come from /k/. is this board this snide and fucking gay?
>>1515917>a hatchet would be more useful in CQBFuck no. All you have to do to avoid attacks with a hatchet or an axe, is to get inside the attacker's attack radius, and it's virtually useless, whereas with a knife, you can stab. Can't do that unless you have an axe that was designed as a weapon. And axes that were designed as weapons are typically useless for anything else.
>>1515917>>1515920Y'all are shitting up the thread. This discussion doesn't even belong on this board lol
>>1515929At least this time, I did not start it.
>>1515917>>1515920Now that's what I call larping
>>1515941Is it because nothing bad can ever happen?
>>1515917>>1515929>>1515941i'm just saying a hatchet is much more useful doing bushcraft shit than a knife and is also super dope for hacking away at unsuspecting hikers on the Appalachian trail
>>1515943No it's because IF I don't have my bow/gun it'd literally be more advantageous to just pick up a big stick than use either my concealed izula or my hatchet. A discussion about close quarters combat doesn't belong on this board
>>1515949A bow is the one thing that is even more useless than the axe. Go fuck yourself, retard.
>>1515948Finally I'm not alone. I love you brother. It's been a long road but.... But we're here now
>>1515950Lol whatever? My hatchet never goes deep in the woods but my bow goes way out with me. It's useful in the hands of a learned user, I can fish and hunt with it all in one. Kill your ass from forty yards too, mortally wound you from much farther and if we're out your not making it back to the hospital boyo
>>1515950Tell that to every serious Hunter in America...
>>1515954I'm not going to shit up this thread any further because of your wrong ideas of how to defend yourself, so I'm just going to leave you on the note that you are wrong about the bow, you're wrong about the hatchet, and you're wrong about the fucking stick. Read a book, faggot.
>>1515958>ITT Rambo only needs his big knifeSeriously starting to think you're compensating for something babe
>>1515958Lol imagining this faggot getting the shit beat out if him with a big stick after the first blow shatters the wrist that held his big gay knife
>>1515958>Read a bookBitch YOU go read "HATCHET"
>>1515964I forgot about that book! So excellent. Did you ever read the sequel?
>>1515966Yeah it was honestly shit except at the beginning when he brutalizes those normies chimp style. The first one probably impacted need more than any other book though. Found it in the library in 5th grade. It was the catalyst in getting me into out no doubt
ITT people desperately trying to justify money wasted on dumb shit. Bonus Rambo
>>1515964>mfw this asshole actually recommends a good book
>>1515996>mfw>doesn't post facefuck you and go back
>>1516023>being this new
>>1507797i like my knives with some meat on them
>>1515956>serious Hunter in America...>>1515956>in America...>>1515956>serious
>>1516162Yeah if someone walked down the street looking like that where I live in rural Natchez Mississippi we would lynch them. There's nothing to do round here but hunt and fish
>>1516166No, you wouldn't, because you're all a bunch of cucks.
>>1515836I would never paint an axe, the paint just seems to add friction and make it get stuck easier and make it harder to pull out when it's wedged in. I prefer just the bare polished or at least smooth steel. Rusty is fine as long as it's smooth, the only thing that needs to be polished is the cutting edge. It's a working tool, not a wallhanger.
>>1516339>bare polishedI my experience, polishing, or at least mirror polishing, only makes the friction problem worse.
>>1516162What does this mean, what country has more hunting culture than us.
How much should you expect to spend on a good knife?
>>1516359He's just referring to the fact that your hunting culture is cringey as fuck.
>>1516367Compared to what
>>1516370Compared to anything. In what world is a fat redneck with an oversized revolver with a scope propped up on a bipod not cringey?
>>1516403Yeah because that's how most people actually hunt in America
>>1516408Probably not, but it's still part of the american hunting culture.
>>1516409Maybe a stereotype of American hunting culture, but not really a part of it. I've never been hunting with, nor seen hunting, a person with a oversized revolver with a scope and bipod.
>>1516362between $40-80 below that is poop above that you're being memed
>>1516362>>1516471$10. It's called a Mora.
>>1516473While moras do good work, they don't last a lifetime, and aren't intended to, with the exception of the garberg which actually passes the $80 mark and passes into meme territory
>>1516476As dedicated cutting tools, they're great, and when used that way, they can actually last you a lifetime. That is, if you don't do things that require you to sharpen the damn thing every couple of days. To be honest, if you need to outright sharpen your knife every couple of days, you need help.
>>1516480I say they aren't lifers because there is a gap between the handle/Tang on all moras and even the stainless models will rust here and there's no way to clean that. It's like a cancer inside the knife
>>1516480Also scandi grinds are inferior unless you're woodworking or an amateur sharpener
>>1516493Fair enough. That really is a problem.>>1516498Well, ideally, you're in the woods when you're using it. I can't speak for anyone else, but 90% of what I use mine for, involves woodworking.
>>1516513I already had this discussion thoroughly. If you're doing "bushcraft" you'd be better served by a hatchet
>>1516538Well, yeah. Although I would say that depends on what sort of "bushcrafting" you do. If you're just going innawods to set up these intricate fireplaces with pot holders and shit, you could probably afford to leave the hatchet at home. Heavier work, definitely bring a hatchet.
>>1515205>Preventing rust is the easiest thing in the world"Natchez Mississippi is a semi-tropical climate-"Literally kill yourself
>>1516403That's sounds bad ass to me. Put a handle bar moustache, a mullet, and a trucker cap on that mother fucker and I'd elect him president
>>1516551Still the easiest thing in the world if you're not a lazy fucking retard.
>>1516408in USA you murder coyotes and squirrels for fun. in europe hunting is much more releated to tradition. gentleman sport.
>>1517258In all fairness, we have our share of psychos who call themselves hunters too.
>>1516493>there is a gap between the handle/tangJust shove some epoxy in there, problem solved.
>>1517258The USA has its boomers who hunt traditionally also, and more rednecks.
>>1517258>gentlemanWe shit on titles this side of the pond.There's nothing gentle about being chased by dozens of hounds and smegheads on horseback if you happen to be a fox, I'd rather just call one in and shoot it instead of running all around creation chasing the damned thing.
>>1517293You mean boomers who constantly use traps and bait because they suck so much ass that they literally can't fell an animal in any other way? Do you also mean rednecks who literally pull their boats up to alligators and blow their heads off before they get a chance to do anything?Yeah, great hunting culture.
>>1517553The brits are retarded. That is also an illegal practice now. But please don't believe for a second that such shit is representative of general European hunting culture.
>>1517553That´s only one method of hunting, and it come from France. It has been abandons over time,, it mostly disappeared before WWI and now is even banned as unethical in Central Europe>>1516367The way you hunt in Europe is you just pack your caliber .300-something semi-auto rifle, go to a hunting ground and then lie in wait or stalk in a promising area, choose a specimen that looks weak or not particularly well developed ( you´re supposed to leave the good looking and robust, alpha ones,alone, generally to promote the good health of the population.) Then you try for a clean kill through the lungs/ heart, tag your quarry with the legally mandated tag (think like farm animals) to prove you´re not a poacher, then dress it and bring it with you. Group hunts are much the same except you have to be a member of a hunting club or get invited to hunt. For the occasion you dress up in a green coat and a brimmed hat, work in formation with other hunters and follow the huntmaster´s directions. There is a bunch more ceremony about it, there might be some brass music, but it mostly is the same thing.
>>1517588Bolt-action rifles are way more common here, just FYI. I also don't agree with most of the European hunting culture.
>>1517156You simply do not know what you're talking about.
>>1517284I shouldn't have to fix a knife out if the box
>>1517681Is that so? Please bless me with your infinite wisdom. Cunt.
>>1517683You have to fix all knives out of the box, though. If it's not the aforementioned gap, it's the fucking micro-bevel you don't want.
>>1517687>You have to fix all knives out of the boxNot that anon, you should stop buying trash knives.
>>1517689They're not trash, it's just a result of humans not being involved in the manufacturing process, which is the exact reason why they're so cheap.
>>1517684Shit rusts where I live much faster than you understand. Putting oil on something won't do anything in no time the oil will be saturated with humidity and just run off and rust will start again. This takes less than an hour. I'm not wise you're just arrogant and dumb
>>1517695That's called a shit knife.
>>1517696>I'm not wiseI know. You don't have to tell me.
>>1517695Tops esee etc are sharpened by hand and much less gay. PS people who actually use their shit ussually prefer a microbevel. I may not be as Sharon but it will NEVER CHIP. You can't even see mine it's literally microscopic, I bring it to an Apex and then hit both sides one time with a ceramic fir the micro
>>1517699You're just a lil bitch huh? Lol
>>1517687I do want
>>1517702>PS people who actually use their shit ussually prefer a microbevel.Not true.
>>1517702Also, if you just don't go and use your knife as a fucking hammer, it's not going to chip anyway.
>>1517713How hard are you using your knives? I use mine hard, and I don't mean I open cans with them. My Benchmade Bushcrafter was chipped to hell and it never touched anything but biological matter very it pplant or animal. I only trust 1095 anymore it's durability is insane. If I need extreme sharpness I have my scalpel
>>1517718Fairly hard, but within its limits. Chopping through branches and the like. Even used it as a fucking shovel at one point. Never had a single chip. 1095, btw.
>>1517718>My Benchmade Bushcrafter was chippedIf you're chipping s30v you're going to chip everything except for the most extreme alloys. S30v tends to almost always roll before it chips. If you're chipping it you're being a retard.
>>1517725Wrong again. Super steel always chips it doesn't roll. Youre not even worth having a discussion with. The edge holding of "super steel" is achieved by sacrificing toughness for hardness. S30v is unrollable at least in stock as thick as the 162
>>1517725Lol at this comment the more "extreme" "super" a metal the more hard and less tough is CHIPS. Some super steels are virtually unphasable but when they do fail they shatter like glass. 1095 will bend past %30 without failure and snap back
>>1517734There also steel like 3v among a myriad of others which are tough and hold an edge. Super steel isnt that specific of a term.
>>1517738No, it's a completely arbitrary term.
>>1517734>>1517736>Super steel always chips it doesn't roll.>Some super steels are virtually unphasable but when they do fail they shatter like glassI forgot people talking out their ass have zero experience with the super alloys. CRK specifically increased the hardness of their heat treat to avoid rolling of the edge and they have far more experience with this style of SS than anyone in the business. s30/35/90 etc are similar.
>>1517742Them trying to negate chipping doesn't mean it will roll before chipping. Again it might have a very high threshold but when it fails it will break, not bend. This is not good or bad, it's just a fact
>>1517751That's not how this alloy works bud. And again CRK increased the hardness to stop the rolling not the chipping because these alloys do not chip easily.
>>1517742I do have experience I went through thousands of dollars in sci-fi steel knives. 1095 is the only steel I would bet my life on. I'm a steel nut I've had a slew of Spyderco mules. They all got homemade kydex and became gifts. I'm not a collector but I have been through a long search to come full circle to where I'm at now. And at the end of the day I can sharpen my1095 on anything a rock a car window a coffee cup. In a survival situation your super steal will be rendered useless once it loses its first edge. The term super steel doesn't qualify a super steel, it disqualifies it as a traditional/tried and true
>>1517754I see the appeal of having ease of sharpening. For me rust resistance and edge retention are far more important.>In a survival situation your super steal will be rendered useless once it loses its first edge. 1095 rusts
>>1517753I even had a Chris Reeves nayala at one point. I feel like if I can't sharpen a knife easily with primitive means whatever magical ability it had out if the box was a parlor trick
>>1517755Use protects the edge from rust and the body if my edc is coated. Try again
>>1517757Coatings get scratched and fail. 1095 will rust in less than a day regardless of how much use you give it in salt water environment. A few days in most anything that's not a desert.
>>1517755I've probably been a real dick through this whole thread sorry bro. I enjoy having my ideas challenged and hearing y'all's I'm just hard headed lol
>>1517758I live in a subtropical climate. It's not like the knife us going to disappear from rust it's really only a concern as far as appearance
>>1517760If it becomes useless for food prep then that's a major con for me.
>>1517758My previous izula served me well in a salt water environment I lived on St Simons island for two years out kayaking every weekend in the marshes and even open ocean. The coating holds up well enough. I wouldn't wanna carry one without the coating I'm not denying it's a flaw in 1095, but the coating is an adequate fix
>>1517762Not really that little ant worth of rust won't hurt you at all bro
I truly believe the izula isn't a meme at all but the best knife ever made. I'll carry mine for the rest of my life they've already honored the warranty FOUR TIMES and replaced it and it has NEVER FAILED ME. I had to break it with a fucking sledge hammer every time regular hammer even handle it. I have mint condition spare in my dash so when the Apocalypse hits ad warranties are no longer a thing I can still use and abuse the way it's meant to
>>1517742I'm extremely curious but equally sceptical. If only I could get my scalpel blades in super steel. There's a killer entrepreneurial pursuit for the business minded anon. There would be a market for this I assure you hunters could toss super steel on their havalons, they would
>>1517769>best knife ever made>entire post basically boils down to "it's garbage, but at least they replace it when it breaks"
>>1517782What? I broke it the first time to test it's strength. I was impressed. Every time after that simply because I wanted it to be pretty again. It never stopped performing fucko
>>1517785>I wanted it to be pretty againAlright. Gotcha, princess.
>>1517790I don't know why I come on here sometimes. Most of y'all are just fucks/trolls. >His knife is a little rusty what a bitch>He replaced his rusty knife with a new shiny one for free what a bitchI can't win lol
>>1517790If you think finding attractive things attractive is off you MIGHT be a homosexual. Just looking out bruv
>>1517758>salt water environment Good job moving the goal post
>>1517799Do you think you're making a point? Youre being vague/gay/scitzo
>>1517801No, if I was working in a salt water environment, I would use a knife designated for that. Seeing most of us go in to the woods, away from the beach, 1095 is more than good you stupid faggot.
>>1517802Right. Salt water only exists around beaches, and never around woodland environments.
>>1517802Lol I'm the guy with the izula that had no problem in salt water. Calm your storm judy