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I need to store gasoline, food and water. There will be massive shortages within the next weeks and I'm worry that this will aggravate the humanitarian crisis exponentially. I fear my family could starve to death if we don't organise ourselves, which is why I'm looking for help here and others sites, but this is my first try.

Considering internet is as cheap as gasoline in here, I'm going to take advantage of both, to learn survival skills and learn tips. And we need to buy so many things for the next week. We can not buy canned food because it's extremely expensive, which is why we have thought about buying meat and put salt to it so it can be preserved for more time.

I'm trying to survive for the next months. What I have in advantage is that I see gasoline shortage as reality right now, therefore I can buy dozens of gallons of gasoline because it's cheap. What I don't know is how and where to store it. First I need to buy the bottles or drum cotainers, and I don't have money enough money to buy drums containers, as they costs 30 USD for a 52,8-gallons (200 liters) plastic container. 30 USD is a LOT of money for me. Of course I wish I could buy ten or twenty 52,8-gal containers, but I don't have the money but buying them would solve a lot of problems for me. So the next option will be to buy bottles of milk of 0,475 gallons (1,8 liters), which are a little cheaper but storing them will be a lot more difficult and will take more space and I don't know whether these milk bottles can store gas. I think I can store a lot of gasoline which later could be exchanged for food as gas becomes more scarce and expensive. 15 gals of gas costs $1 here right now and in the future it could be 1 dollar per gal.

These are the 0,475 gallons bottles https://i.imgur.com/7GeB137.jpg
Each costs between $0,2 and $0,3

These are the 52-gal containers https://i.imgur.com/vlCICo5.jpg
Each costs $30

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Mind me, but I just have pennies in the bank account, our option are milk bottles for now, and I would like to know if these are fit to store gasoline

I also need to store water. I can't buy the milk bottles to store water because these are used bottles and I would need to sterilize them to put clean water to drink. The only option I see would be buying another drum container of 52 gallons and sterilize it so it would be easier to use.

What is the most efficient way to clean and purify water? I have thought about using bleach, with the correct dose the water could be clean enough to drink it without problem, right?

I have a lot of space in my house, several rooms with roofs made in wood located outside, and also some 645 sqr ft (60 sqr meters) of idle land. I can't grow food there.
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>>1450649
This one is very helpful. Thank you
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¿Por que no te vas a Colombia o a otro país?
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>>1450651
No problem. Stay safe dude, and keep monitoring the thread, there is an anon who often posts a link to a file with lots of images and pdfs, many are entirely dedicated to water purification.
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>>1450630
Damn it’s really looking thay bad? My girl and her family got out of there a couple years ago and with everything happening she was worried that her asylum case could get ruined if things got significantly better over there. I told her worst case scenario we gotta go to Utah so I can wife her mother and two sisters.

Good luck mang, try and dip to Canada and make friends with the sand people.
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>>1450630
I haven’t taken a day off of hunting people like ou for 4 years on runescape
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>>1450630
Anon, prove you’re in Venezuela, timestamp
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>>1450661
Leave anon alone, Maduro.
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>>1450659
Sorry for them
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>>1450669
I got all I need
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>>1450669
Is your goal revolution or survival?
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>>1450677
I wouldn't mind joining to forces to overthrow Maduro or fight those who are trying to keep the regime in power, but for now I'm worry about the next week when gas isn't available anymore.

I just need tips and some answers about the milk bottles, because these are the bottles where I think I could store gas.
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>>1450680
The milk bottles are probably okey, but a good way to make some money is to just siphon gas from other people’s cars, open the valve, insert the tub, and suck until you get a little mouthful, then throw the tub into the jug/bucket and let it drain, sweet gold
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>>1450680
Oh shit, Venezuela anon def got shot
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Remember when Venezuela was prosperous? Also is Maduro gonna get overthrown soon, is the military gonna bail on him soon? I know he has the support of high-ranking military officials, but surely the soldiers who serve under these officials could just drop arms.
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>>1450630
I'd make sure to get a bicycle just in case if I were you. Cars can break down and people might try to rob you of your gasoline if they know you have it.
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>>1450713
I’d say get a knife too, stab anyone who gets too close
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Stay safe my dude, I might have some decent info graphs for you. Do you/your senpai have guns?
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>>1450733
No, we don't have any
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>>1450713
I hadn't considered this. Thanks.
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Well, if you need wild foods, meat is king. Get some fishing gear, small diameter wire for making snares, and get youtube videos of trap and snare making. Learn how to spot game trails so you know where you put the traps and snares. The simplest traps are deadfall traps, so research those too,

Level of Simplicity, easiest at top, most difficult at bottom:

Two Stick Deadfall
Split Stick Deadfall
Promontory Peg Deadfall
Y-Branch Modified Promontory Peg Deadfall
String-Modified Promontory Peg Deadfall
Figure 4 Deadfall
Paiute Deadfall
Spring Deadfall
Koolyomka Deadfall

https://www.gutenberg.org/files/34110/34110-h/34110-h.htm
https://irondogtrapping.com.au/upload/modules/content/The%20Project%20Gutenberg%20EBook%20of%20Fifty%20Years%20a%20Hunter%20and%20Trapper.pdf
https://www.pssurvival.com/PS/Primitive_Skills/Trapping/The_Amateurs_Guide_To_Trapping_Snaring_and_Netting_1917.pdf
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>>1450739
Research how to make a "bundle bow" and "sapling bow" as well as making arrows and bow string. All are really simple to make with just the most simple of tools. The simplest bowstring to make is Flemish Twist bow string and arrow fletching can be make from something as simple as packing tape/duct tape or thin plastic. If you have PVC/CPVC pipe you can google up PVC bow making, which is super simple.
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>>1450630
>I don't know whether these milk bottles can store gas
https://www.plasticsintl.com/chemical-resistance-chart (look at petrol and )
For long term storage, only use those with an A rating. I don't know how it is there but plastic containers are always imprinted with their composition, pic related.
But even better would be to use whichever glass containers you can find.
Modern gasoline should last months without going bad, but it doesn't help to add a little bit of fuel stabilizer if you can find it.
Also, needless to say, it is a light distillate, and so will have a high vapor pressure. Containers should be air tight and away from heat sources.
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>>1450680
Plastic milk bottles don't last very long when storing gas. Glass ones are fine.

Otherwise metal is the best material for fuel storage.
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>>1450630
You can store dry beans, rice, sugar, salt and some other stuff in PET bottles. Just search on youtube, I'm sure there's some tutorials for it in spanish.

You can also store water in used PET bottles, just rinse them off well with some water and a bit (4 or 5 drops) of bleach then let them dry.
Water will stay good for a while.

Salting and/or drying meat is not as easy as it seems, but yeah, for a long term emergency storage it might doable.

Again, search youtube.
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>>1450630
Shoot Meduro and Guido for me plx.
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>>1450649
How to not die from water-borne diseases.
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>>1450652
Funny thing about nuclear: you can re-use the water, if you're smart and force the steam through a uranyl trap (as well as analogues) and acid-alkaline gas filters.
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>>1450741
a car tire patch kit's rubber cement and a spare inner tube cut into strips for on the spot patches are a must as well. that will keep your bicycle rolling almost no matter how badly you puncture or slash the tubes on your bike. they make bicycle patch kits but I don't trust the rubber cement (or the tiny patch strips they come with) to be the same quality as the adhesive they make for cars - probably quicker curing as well.

>>1450745
it would probably be a lot easier for him to nigrig a slingshot to take arrows than to tushwank a bow from scratch. surgical tube bands aren't the most sturdy of things, but if you've used it enough to break them you should already be over half way to somewhere you won't need to use it.
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>>1450664
ayy
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>>1450737
Contact splitting is based.
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>>1450630
also

>>1450705

I suggest searching hidden creek / pond fishing how-to's. your local ponds, lakes, and reservoirs may be fished out but small tributaries and the ocean offer a lot of opportunity. I'm just going off what I know from fishing extremely pressured urban waters in the northern US but tiny streams just off major rivers and other bodies of water can hold surprisingly large edible fish populations.
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>>1450816
technically all fresh water fish are edible, even if they might taste like shit.
i guess the long term problem is with heavy metals and especially PCBs. not that they kill you or anything, but may end up being a more dangerous food source than other options.
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how much money do you need man
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>>1450837
It doesn’t even matter because their cash is worthless. If anybody from outside the country tries to send money with value or meds or something, the gov’t takes it before the mail can get to anybody.
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>>1450842
bitcoin my dude
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>>1450843
And do what with it? Nothings being imported into the country because their money is worthless and if you tried to order some good shit online, it won’t make it to your mailbox.
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>>1450655
THIS

you gotta gtfo before SHTF. colombia, chile, argentina
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>>1450842
Somebody from Miami (assuming it was not some glow in the dark shit) sent a shipment of rifles and ammo to Venezuela and it got caught by customs. I wonder what has been passing by.
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>>1450837
I don't know, but so far I think 200$ are enough to buy enough beans, meat and drums
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>>1450848
You can afford a goods with money. Bitcoin can be easily exchange for bolivars in localbitcoins.com and you just need a wallet and internet.

There are grocery stores here selling goods, the thing is that these are very expensive but people who receive money from their relatives living abroad can afford them.

I don't have any relative living abroad, so I really need to prepare myself with whatever I can before the nightmare get worse
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Are those bottles fit to store gasoline? These costs 0.15 each and they are a gallon. The best option I've found
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>>1450868
my bet would be propaganda and the government actually bought those for themselves
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>>1450655
Cuesta mucho dinero y no dispongo de mucho dinero ahora. El viaje a Colombia sale en 100 dólares, y pagar alquiler y comida mientras busco trabajo es muy costoso
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>>1450894
I get it but there's a good chance that things could get much, much worse than you think in Venezuela. Idk, maybe being poor in Columbia is better than being dead?
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>>1450630
Good luck Anon, I hope America intervenes soon. Down with the dictator.
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>>1450630
search the piratebay for "mega survival ebook archive"
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we all know who's responsible for the state of venezuela......
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>>1450914
Back to pol antisemite
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>>1450918
just admit it
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>>1450888
They would work, make sure they have lids and are tight.
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>>1450806
>sling bow

Good luck replacing the bands in SHTF.
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>>1450888
Keep them out of the sunlight. UV deteriorates them.
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>>1450868
>>1450892
Idk, I believe it. South Florida is like 50% Venezuelan now. The area I work in has sooooo many of them.

>>1450899
Why are Colombian arepas so shitty?
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>>1450892
I don't know, it wouldn't surprise me if someone living in the US and fearing for their family in Venezuela would send them gear in case shit goes really south. That or some well connected person trying to take advantage of what's going on.

>>1450914
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qdO2pFoGgw

(((they))) can't help themselves, people living in misery and the tribesmen trying to make an extra buck. When there's blood in the streets...
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>>1451029
>state of disaster

State of change.
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junk yard gas tanks?
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>>1451034
It will get far worse before it gets better. There's no magical solution for Venezuela.
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go to dump find barrel.
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Hola amigo. saludos desde España.
Eres pro maduro? espero que no.
Animo
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>>1451026
Can confirm large Venezuelan population in SoFlo.
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>>1450888
Store them in a cool place out of the sun but with good ventilation.
Don't store them inside the house, you don't want to breathe gasoline vapors.
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>>1451023
they're cheap and effective if you buy it all ahead of time and probably still cheap and effective after the fact. who walks into the department store as society goes to shid and says "damn everything's falling apart, better grab a slingshot and a couple packs of spare bands and some arrows / dowels so I can hunt my own food"
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>>1451026
>the hispanic survivors of failed socialist states always seem to congregate in florida
weird
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>>1450631
>What is the most efficient way to clean and purify water?

Cheapest is bleach, easiest a sawyer filter in a gravity filter set up.

Milk jugs with a few drops of chlorine bleach is good for long term storage of water.

Stock up on rice and beans, simple cheap things that need only water to prepare and can be stored dry in glass or plastic containers to keep bugs and rats out.

For growing food, try a small aquaponic setup. It's what people in the middle east warzones have, it keeps them alive.
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>>1450650
This is shit, you'd need twenty holes to get a liter of water.
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>>1451325
>>1450650
Instead of that, get some transpiration bags to tie around branches. Then learn which plants you can use, since not all of them produce drinkable water.

https://prepforshtf.com/transpiration-bags-gather-water-survival-situation/
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>>1451267
>sling bow for SHTF

lol you're serious
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READ THIS
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>>1451368
RIP uncle ekrem
never thought I would miss that grumpy drunken fuck
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>>1451368
this is the realest shit ive ever read before wtf
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>>1451026
>>1451058
Can also confirm, + Colombians and Brazilians
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>>1451635
Meh, the Brazilians have their little pocket in North Broward. Sooooooo many Colombians and now Venezuelans all over W and N Dade and everywhere in Broward.

The Colombians and Venezuelans are straight for the most part now. They’re not nearly as third world and shitty as the rest of the immigrants coming here and lot of the wimminz are real fine.
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Saludos desde Argentina, hermano. Ojalá se termine la pesadilla de Maduro pero ojalá que tampoco queden en manos de la mierda de Guaidó y los yanquis.
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>>1451984
Hi there my socialist amigo.
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>>1451368
I need more, that stuff really hits the spot.
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>>1451368
>>1451604
It's a fake you dumb faggots.
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>>1450630
>I need to store gasoline
No
>Food and water
Yes. Collect and clean clear glass and plastic containers to store water. These can be used to disinfect the water when left in sunlight all day.
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OP, why do you need gasoline?

If things go really bad you shouldn't really be going anywhere other than to get more food, or get to a hospital (if they will even be taking people in).

I would only store enough gas to get to a hospital and I would spend the rest of my time and money on getting enough food and water and weapons, along with other valuables that you can use to trade
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>>1452091
gasoline is basically free there, and things are on the brink of total collapse. the idea is eventually it will start to become a valuable resource, esp if few other people in the area are storing it. you're certainly right about the importance of basic needs and weapons.
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>>1452103
I mean I get the idea but I just know that when things get bad enough, having 'luxuries' to trade are useless if there is nothing to trade them for. Food food and more food, along with water should be number 1. If you have enough food you can lock your doors, close the blinds, sit on your ass and just stay alive literally until things blow over. Going out and traveling only means higher risks.
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maybe more long term information...
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>>1450630
>I need to store gasoline,
good luck that shit is only lasting a year at best
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why haven't you been growing your own food fag seriously
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>>1452007
Not a socialist, but US intervention in South America has never done any good.
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>>1450630
bro, you aren't favelanon are you? disregard if you don't know who I'm talking about
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>>1450882
Post your paypal i think people will throw you a buck or two.
And if some edgelord posts his instead - let the only girl who will ever love said fag die while delivering a stillborn son.
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If you run out of fuel, pure ethanol will do in a pinch. Also makes sadness go away. Stay safe, OP.
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>>1450630
Read up on Yugoslavians surviving the siege of Sarajevo.

Learn to fix shoes and people.

Stockpile medicine, alkohol and bic lighters. Ammunition too if possible.

Don't try to survive on your own. work with people you can trust.

Don't let your home or base look like it has something worth looting.

You can preserve food by cooking it into glasses.
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>>1451243
>cool place out of the sun
>Venezuela
RIP OP
F
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>>1452075
found the commie
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>>1452610
I think it’s pretty temperate. Everybody is in Caracas and the city is between the ocean and the mountains. They complain that the 90F summer days in South Florida are too hot and the 50F winter nights are too cold.
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>>1450630

Those plastic containers are absolutely NOT safe to store gasoline in. You are far more likely to burn yourself/your home than make a profit from them.

Good luck bro, hope your family makes it out OK.
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>>1450659
Based me too brother. Love hearing them scream ayudame when I teleblock them
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>>1450652
20 gallons of water to wash up by hand. How big of a sink do they think people use?
What the fuck, now I doubt the entire chart.
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>>1454447
>hair shampoo
>hair conditioner

These things are so wildly different between brands that it completely negates any semblance of accuracy on that chart.

>no info
>don't do it
>complete lack of info for some extreme combinations despite it being well known
>"neutralizes" no other info than that

Christ, this is a fucking terrible chart. James needs to stop teaching chemistry.
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If it gets bad, you might want to start stashing stuff where no one find it. too obvious to put in house.
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>>1450630
Dont use either of those containers for long term gas storage. The plastic can't handle it, it'll slowly get eaten away.
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Come to brazil,ill let you live in my house.
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>>1452075
>>1451368
Oh this is fake as hell, the guy who wrote it was outed as a LARPING Russian.
The big thing to note, though, is that it is also entirely correct and contains a lot of valuable advice and lessons, so even though it is fake it is still worth reading and taking notes.



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