Okay /out/ I reported someone i know personally out of spite, i have proof that this person illegally took 2 deer via spolight, bait, and bow without having proper licensing for hunting inside a deer reduction zone. In indiana whats the chance that this asshole gets caught and what will happen?
>>1407330Bootlickers get the rope
>>1407330100% with proof. if by proof you mean actual proof and not just you saying so.
>>1407330No one but you fucking cares.
>>1407343I have pictures of the carcasses, texts that are admitting what he has done is illegal and that he doesnt care because "i can just tell them whatever"
>>1407344>no one but you caresOh but the revenue that'll be generated if this asshole is caught and fined will make the officers and the asshole himself care
>>1407347How likely will he find out you ratted him out and will he come after you? Was it worth it? Was he also maybe dumb enough to try to get those deer illegally taxidermed or processed by a professional? You might have witnesses then if they didn’t already contact authorities themselves or were faggot buddies of his who processed the deer anyway.
Good, poachers are thieves.
>>1407373Not likely to come after me, i honestly dont care if he finds out because he thinks somehow he is invincible and above the law and he claims to be such an expert. He had his father butcher the game but has 2 hides and 2 gut piles still rotting behind his garage.
>>1407373Also, totally worth it. If you knew this person you would do the same. Also off subject this idiot thinks slavic countries are the best since his parents have immigrated from slavic countries and they said things were totally fine under communism, not that this bothers me because they were indoctrinated as is he, but it just adds to the shitpile of a "hunter" this person is.
>>1407373Lastly to add flame to the fire he admitted to me in a text that he had shot the deer on his property, sent me identifying photos in front of a tree and told me he shot from his window with the aid of a spotlight
>>1407378>>1407381>>1407384Is this one of your faggot buddies you just got tired of? What’s the matter, Cleetus? He sold you some cut meth? If seriously he thinks he is above the law he will come after you. He will be dumb enough to get caught with your gutpile in his backyard but you’ll be damn dead.
>>1407389Not a friend and never has been, although the meth comment is flattering, i surely dont smoke cut meth, only the purest. This kid is no killer, he was threatening to off himself because he got beat up by a kid with a fucked up hip and leg. He has some problems, overly cocky and above everything but when he gets beat up or women deny him anything he turns into a pussy especially when LE is envolved.
>>1407384>on his propertyyou done fucked up, if it was on private property there's fuck all you can do about it and state hunting laws and seasons don't even apply
>>1407330>OP is a faggot.Legit meme.
>>1407392Private property is still regulated by state hunting laws in Indiana, you still have to follow season dates and regulations, only real difference is you can hunt with big boy rifle calibers if you're out of city limits.
>>1407393>op is a faggotYeah pretty easy to spot poachers alike huh
>>1407392Unless your land is registered as a profitable farm there's "fuck all" you can do about avoiding hunting seasons and regulations.
>>1407392You're either clueless or baiting. Wild animals are considered property of the state and no matter whose property they are on you have to abide by state and federal regulations when you hunt / kill them.Here in TX where there isn't much public land to hunt on, the vast majority of hunting takes place on private property. Game wardens here are allowed to trespass on private property with no warning and no need for a search warrant to catch people engaged in illegal hunting activities on private property. The only way you can kill these animals without needing to adhere to hunting regulations / seasons is if you have a HIGH FENCE game ranch with a deer population that came from captive (non-wild) breeding stock. If "wild" deer can enter / exit your property then you have to abide by all the hunting regulations & laws. You're not even allowed to hunt wild hogs (a destructive, non-native, invasive species) on private property without a hunting license unless it's a high fence environment.
>>1407330The local game warden here said that over half of the people he busts for illegally harvesting deer now comes from people forwarding text messages, emails, or facebook posts to him. If you turn the shitbag in to the game warden with the texts as evidence then there's a pretty high likelihood that he'll be ticketed.
Interesting fact:30 years ago, men did not rat on one another like little bitches.Poaching is a pretty fucking disgusting crime, but snitching on someone in your circle of friends shows a huge character flaw. I blame the socialist values pop culture has endorsed . Men no longer understand how to act like men.
>>1407460>Poaching is a pretty fucking disgusting crimeNot really. 30 years ago most everyone did it. Now, there's jail terms for it instead of only fines. It is management for tourism, not for environment.
>>1407485I know a guy that shoots deer in season, out of season, on other people's land, from the road, etc. just to kill them. He doesn't take any of the meat and most of the time he doesn't even take any of the antlers unless it's a big buck, he just leaves them there for the scavengers. He kills 15-20 deer a year usually, he's like 60 something years old and has done this his whole life. There's another younger guy in my town (mid-20's) who has been arrested / ticketed over 50 times for trespassing and poaching, he's permanently barred from ever getting a hunting license in TX ever again but he goes out every weekend and trespasses on the old, shut down, coal strip-mine land (like 20k+ acres) with a rifle and a spotlight and kills any animal he sees. My friend's dad is in charge of land sales and reclamation / mitigation out there, one of only 3 people on the site anymore, and he's the one the game warden calls when they catch the kid out there and asks if the company wants to press charges. Of course he presses charges but the kid either just gets a ticket or spends like a week in the county lockup at most before he's out and doing the same shit again. They've caught the kid on the mining company's land 6 or 7 times this year alone and he poaches along all the county roads on that end of the county.Sure, the "average poacher" might not kill many more animals than a lawful hunter but a few bad ones can kill more animals than dozens of hunters who follow the law.
>>1407501At that point they arnt even poachers. They are borderline serial killers who use animals to subdue their urges. They need to be culled from society.
>>1407503This.Those people need counseling and jail time. There's some pretty fucked up shit going on there.
>>1407503>>1407505The worst part about the older guy is that he has a lot of money, goes on African Safaris every couple of years, has like 2 deer leases in-state, goes on multiple hunting trips every year to Colorado, Kansas, and Montana, etc... It's not like has nowhere to go hunting or doesn't have any opportunity to do so during hunting season. He's been retired for 5-6 years and that's all he really does with his time and money but he still keeps a rifle in his pickup truck and shoots any deer he sees from the side of the road if no one's around.
>>1407506>>1407501Thats quite an imagination you have there anon! You should be a writer
>>1407330Poachers deserve everything coming to them. This is one situation where property forfeiture is merited.
>>1407524Believe what you want, I actually shot my first deer, a doe, sitting in a stand with the older guy when I was like 9 years old. He was on the same deer lease with my buddy's dad out in West Texas. I've known him all my life. Somehow the guy has only been busted for poaching once in his life, he had his hunting license revoked for a year or two.
>>1407347>hearsay is evidencelolno
>>1407550Its all the extra little details that expose the pathological liar. Its the finely woven story.This skill is forged over a lifetime of bullshitting and tempered by the pain if being exposed for his tall tales as a child.
>>1407568>screenshots>gutpiles>blood trailBut yeah, hearsay
I’m personally friends with several game wardens, hell my old man was one for 30 years before retiring. Most have some kind of compassion if you are legit poor and need meat on the table some will turn a blind eye to it. The real assholes are the ones shooting at night and killing more then tags allow. I’ve even heard of a few pubs buying it from these fools. One day f the crazyist things I’ve heard of is them setting up shark fishing hooks in apples hanging from a tree. Then you get the ones that just kill for fun and or are too lazy to drag the meat from the woods. If it doesn’t land on the logging road they leave it. It seems to be an issue with some native hunters and there’s fuck all the law can do about it. They scream racism and that’s that. This is a topic I could go on and on about.
>>1407599Definetly not poor, things have been handed to this kid all his life, vehicles, money, equipment, and that kind of thing is why he thinks he's above everything because he can turn to his parents for shelter, but if or when he gets caught there's nothing that they can do because this isnt a soviet slavic shithole and you cant give police $100 to fuck off.
>>1407602Sounds like you need to go to the jelly school anon.
>>1407593Gutpiles and blood trails are evidence. A screenshot and statements made in a WhatsApp conversation are hearsay.
>>1407330I hope someone offs you one day for being a filthy bluecocksucking snitchActually the worst type of friend.
>>1407392You are wrong.
>>1407460Legitimately this.... Op if you where not such a spineless bitch maybe you could fight him if you had an issue with it like a respectable male human. You sub basic bitch
https://www.in.gov/dnr/lawenfor/2745.htmTurn in a poacher
>>1407663Nigga the court get a warrant for the messages directly from WhatsApp. They have cause from op
>>1407779>fight him> no longer have legal high ground > now a felon Yeah okay
>>1407330Honestly? As a biologist, it’s a fucking deer. They’re practically pests at this point. Shoot away.
>>1407806This is how beta males rationalize
who cares deer cause too many auto accidents just let him kill them there are more deer now in north america then there were 300 year ago
>>1407330Honestly OP, go kill yourself bro. First off you are respecting and upholding an unconstitutional law when you arent even being asked to. Second you are ratting out your fellow man for what? He didn't do anything morally wrong. Fuck you faggot this set me off
>>1407875>Thou shall not steal.
>>1407894romans 1:27 exists and yet you are still a faggot, fuck off. deer suck, OP is a rat bastard, etc.
It's not ratting out if the other fuckhead is a fucking rat, and he very clearly isn't that great of a friend, otherwise you wouldn't even consider to rat his ass
unless the person who did this is a complete douche then dont report him : / its wrong but mind ya own business
>>1407330>Okay /out/ I reported someone i know personally out of spite,usually you get a reward>i have proof that this person illegally took 2 deer via spolight, bait, and bow without having proper licensing for hunting inside a deer reduction zone. He knows you have that proof?>In indiana whats the chance that this asshole gets caught depends if he has evidence of a crime in his house and/or if you're willing to provide evidence/testify against him>and what will happen?He'll get a year in jail and $10k in fines, you'll be hunted down and killed with spotlights, bait, and bow.
You're that fucking customer that complains because an employee didnt say hi loud enough when he passed by. Nobody fucking cares
>>1407804WhatsApp conversations are hearsay. Look up what hearsay means. Even a photograph taken in a non-professional capacity is hearsay. OP will need to testify in court for it to be admissible as evidence.
>>1407953At this point they probably don't need OP's testimony or any of the conversations or photos.an anonymous tip is probably sufficient to get a warrant to collect DNA evidence and compare it to the poacher's hunting licenses for the past 10 years along with the records of any butcher he claims to use or his uncle Cletus' freezer if he pretends the meat was a gift.they take poaching pretty serious.
>>1407330This is how people get shot.Poaching is nigger tier, but this and him knowing is nigger tier also.
>>1407936no OP is right. There are licences for a reason. So you don't make the animals suffer more than necessary and to make sure people don't overhunt.OP, you did the right thing
>>1407911You do not understand the term rat.The poacher is not a rat , he is a piece of shit.A rat is a snitch
>>1407568none of what he posted qualifies as hearsay
>>1407381>Also off subject this idiot thinks slavic countries are the best since his parents have immigrated from slavic countries and they said things were totally fine under communism, not that this bothers me because they were indoctrinated as is he>how dare he be proud of where he's from?Yeah, you sound like an asshole. Not to mention a grudge carrying lunatic. Kys.
>>1407448In fairness, it makes sense to require a license for hog hunting. First off for safety, so you can verify they took hunter ed, but also because frankly the majority of hog shooting is done for sport by people willing to pay the license fee so why leave that money on the table. The very few people who are kept from shooting at hogs by that license fee weren't going to make any real difference to the population anyway (only trapping and night shooting really suppress hog numbers in a meaningful way.)>>1407460>>1407485Wildlife belongs to all Americans and is managed in public trust by the states. You can fuck right off if you think you're entitled to mess with my deer.
>>1407348>the revenue that'll be generated if this asshole is caught and fined Will be 1/10th or less of what it costs to prosecute him (above and beyond the salaries that are being spent regardless).
>>1409303>no OP is rightFuck no hes not.You and op are not men
>>1407503I live in an area with a fuckload of Bosnians. They give NO FUCKS WHAT SO EVER about hunting or fishing regulations.>be out trout fishing today at local county park that has 3 lakes that are stocked by the county>county stocked the lake this morning at 7am>daily limit is 4 trout, only 1 pole with line in the water at a time, no boats allowed, no "alternative methods" of fishing allowed, foot-access only, can't sell any catch>30+ bosnians have entire back lake blocked off with a truck they illegally drove back there, each one has at least 3 and one dude had 7 poles going at once, bosnians walking to the parking lot with double fistfulls of full stringers (10-20 trout per person) where they throw them in big coolers already half full of trout and head back to the lakeThey literally show up the day the lake is stocked (this is published info), fish it out, and rotate to the next lake.Deer season isn't that much different on public land, they'll literally block entire parking lots to keep non-bosnians out, and starting several hours before legal shooting light it sounds like the Battle of the Bulge. Opening weekend it's quite common to see a parade of beat up work trucks with their beds piled up to the ladder racks with 10-12 does and spikes (you can't shoot a doe until the second rifle season here, you can only get 1 antlered deer permit per season, and my county has a minimum 6-point antler restriction).They do occasionally get busted (at which point they go crying to the courts about being discriminated against for being bosnian) but when they inevitably lose they simply pay the fine or serve the very short jail sentence and do it again the next year.None of them have a shred of licensing, although that's an issue that's hardly restricted to just the bosnians (the county park wardens write over 20,000 tickets a year for fishing without a license).
I would report someone I knew over fish but not over deer. Who cares about deer?
are you a fucking park ranger now?
>>1407330I bet you call in on people scoop crabbing from boats too you massive faggot.
>>1407485>It is management for tourism, not for environment.This. It's only become an issue because someone is losing a BUCK in the tourism industry.
>>1409312>.t 12 year old that jerks off to scarface
>>1407330your post was worth it for the salty bitch comments alone
>>1410190No one, including the OP.>reported someone i know personally out of spite>out of spiteOP is a turbofaggot.
>>1407330oh look a boot licking threadpost your boots and how they might taste if OP were to lick them my boots are some Danner lineman's boots because we have snakes and shit hereif OP were to lick them they would taste like rotten wood,old leaves,river clay,fish slime and Kiwi saddle soap
>>1410388Fuckin old Justins. They'd taste like an old steak from the neetsfoot oil
>>1407330hunter or poacher both are disgusting and useless.
>>1407330If you're doing it because they're fucking with the deer, then go ahead. If you're only doing it out of spite, and don't give a shit about the deer, then go fuck yourself.
>>1410439Yeah eating is overrated I gave it up years ago and survive on sipe
>>1407930>Oh boi you b-b-better mind your own business >Just ignore it when someone does something wrongThis is your brain on onions
>>1410388>>1410398This would be boot licking if poaching wasn't a crime that affects civilians.
>>1407599This, I know an old guy on limited income, shoots a small doe or spike every couple months to help make ends meet, boils the bones for soup, liver and lungs go into the hamburger pile, cleanest skeleton you have ever seen when he is done butchering, I dont give a single fuck.I reported an elk hunter for throwing out his animal, he just wanted it for the rack. Dumped it in a gravel pit missing the head.
>>1407330Good on you OP. Fuck Poachers, subhuman scum
>>1407344>>1407340Fags like this deserve death, good for you OP fuck that nigger.
>>1407812Fucking this, you tree-hugging ultraniggers. They're oversized rats, and killing them is a public service because you filthy fucking retards extirpated their natural predators.
Did the DNR send you a good citizen certificate mummy can frame?Are you going to wear your Jr. Warden sticker to school??>>1412224It's bootlicking when you go on the internet expecting a fucking medal for diming someone out.
>>1407776Nah fuck poach fags
Poaching for food is alright in my book. But if you do it for fun or money (not used for buying food), then you're a faggot.
>>1407330Good on you, anon; poachers are thieves and give legitimate hunters a bad name. Not to mention that they give anti-hunters ammunition and make PR that much harder for the hunting community.