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We're racing some shit on Saturdays and some other shit on Sundays. Check it out.
>https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1R3KWTJsrlS9X2EZUNXY8KbHfsHD-t3_EU_A1n6wBBQc
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>being so shit you clone a madcatz FFB wheel that they "borrowed" from the corpse of saitek to begin with and make it spring loaded grandma garbage

wew lad
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>>21218483
Lol, I used to have that Saitek wheel absolute ages ago. I can't believe they're still copying that.
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>>21218488
>NFS FEET
ayy
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>>21218488
need for sneed feed
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>>21218488
Yeet
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>>21218520
they were supposed to be updating it, when Madcatz bought them and it became this thing. I've only heard is incredibly unreliable. Saitek was also responsible for the R.A.T. mouse, though it was definitely MK that made it such a piece of shit.
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>>21218471
>180 degree rotation
>vibration motors, not proper FFB

Get this fucking peasant trash off this website, faggot
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>>21218552
Ffb is not sim
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12th for Thrustmaster
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>>21218552
you do not need more than 240 to 270 deg and a bungee cord
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1j6dCNaBtE
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>>21218583
Hall effect rotation sensor is digital and stepped badly

Logitech at least uses optical light and slits so you can at lest replace disk with a finer cut one.

Both methods digital and bad thou analogue wheels win races
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16th for stefano
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>>21218595
You probably do I'm having problems config FM7 with mine.. any one know if it has a wheel config file I can open in notepad?
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>>21218603
The T300 16-bit hall effect sensor has 65536 steps.
How's your "finely cut" optical shite going to compete with that?
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>>21218626
No it doesn't the disk with the magnets on it you can clearly see in opened up photos has like 12magnets on it each one is a step sure it spins alot per rotation but the gears are not that big no way is it that high you can literally see stepped input on YouTube videos thou you can with g29 also to be fair
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Hourly reminder for fellow Rich Fags.

Join iRacing and escape the poor menace. No first turn mayhem. No wreckers or quitters. Just good racing.

Poor fags, please, don’t take it personal because you can afford it
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>>21218626
No the optical disk method is just as bad is my point its also digital with only 27cuts
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>>21218603
>Logitech at least uses optical light and slits so you can at lest replace disk with a finer cut one
15 posts in and stupidity already reaches peaks this is going to be a good thread
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>>21218626
>Don't make up numbers 16bit is way more than 65k
>>21218662
Watch a teardown video or look on eBay for DFGT or g27 or g29 replacement parts it will come up first.. Get wheel woke. All the FFB wheels are digital and bad only the cheap ones or super expensive ones (even more than DD) are analogue
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>>21218657
wtf am i reading?
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>maxed out monster truck parts just make it bounce off rev limiter in normal driving so the 2x nitro is almost pointless
>the spin affixes make it roll so fast it's annoying to drive

eh
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>>21218655
go away dave
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>>21218655
>implying James is rich
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>>21218672
And it keeps going up I'm impressed.
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>>21218643
>the disk with the magnets on it you can clearly see in opened up photos has like 12magnets on it each one is a step sure

What disk, my god?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3gnnKObloU
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>>21218678
fugg
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>>21218675
Some one with knowlage of wheel internals and how they report movement .....
>>21218689
Fine if you don't want to go on this curiosity voyage I'll leave my in depth knowlage to myself
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so what are /ovg/'s thoughts on NFS heat?
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>>21218672
http://www.thrustmaster.com/sites/default/files/product/forcefeedback_wheelbenchmarkuk.pdf
The numbers are from the manufacturer.
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>>21218698
laughter
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>>21218693
Its behind motor I CBF explaining more you know nuthing driver john goodbye
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>>21218553
Kinda toy car-ish.
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>>21218700
>Seems like a reliable unbias source

(They literally list the max bitdepth of usb2) lewl
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>>21218638
This will be the title if they ever go to japan
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>>21218698
Looks more promising than Payback looked when it was announced. It's all up to EA to try to hold back on their EAness.
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>>21218698
Expectations
>prostreet + underground + police omg this is going to be my perfect nfs
Reality
>tap2drift, rng upgrades, cringy story that tries too hard
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>>21218698
you mean NFS wheat?
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>>21218611
You will need to reconfigure the driver, it's a few steps to follow but it's not very difficult and it makes a world of difference.
>Open notepad as admin (this is important you'll be editing driver file they're protected)
>File => Open
>Go to C:\windows\system32\driverstore
>Find the folder that starts with acpi.inf_ and open it (ACPI means Advanced Controller Programming Interface it sets game controller parameters)
>Open acpi.inf
>Scroll down to the [ControlFlags] section
>Add the following line: SteeringWheelClass:ForceReportedRotation=270 (or whatever your prefer)
>Save file, reboot computer to reload the driver
Your wheel should work as you intend it now, and since that's directly a driver setting that bypasses all the game specific code it will work across all games.
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>>21218683
Dave is obviously invested financially in iracing, but me? I just gave up on AC PC2 and ACC. All ok sims but iracing is by far the most lifelike in terms of input to car behavior.

AC has ice 1987 tires
ACC curbs of death
PC2 has bad track reproduction
Forza is an absolute fantasy from every aspect

iracing? $40 bucks and in racing Miatas for 6 months with some dudes. Pretty damn good desu. Even the Ovals are actually fun as fuck.
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>>21218698
Probably going to be shit. I have no faith in EA/Ghost to produce anything as good as Rivals (which was mediocre), yet alone measuring up to HP2010.
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>>21218488
>they're still falling for the fast and furious story in racing games meme
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>>21218697
my dad works at fanatec he says you're full of shit
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>>21218718
Thanks for cool info but its 458spider that only works on forza UWP titles on PC and actually has no driver the uwp games just detect it as Xbox thing via Xbox app or some shit doesn't work with any thing but forza ;( I don't think it will be listed there
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>>21218707
>(They literally list the max bitdepth of usb2) lewl
Goes to show that their sensor is indeed very capable.
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>>21218730
No that guy is correct
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>>21218721
>ACC curbs of death
Those were completely fixed with the new 5 point tyre model.
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>>21218698
Looks like the same shit they've been churning out last two games. I gave Horizon and The Crew if I want arcade with licensed cars. Shame that the first game with the Polestar one is NFS. Hope the same doesn't happen to the C8
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>>21218698
Soon both men were bare, staring at each other and panting harder than Christina Mort in heat.
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>>21218698
More street racing bullshit, more pretend sanctioned races that look like an edgy teenager's idea of what cool is, probably more of the retarded post MW05 cops that suck to play with. A big fat no.
They should go back to pre PS2 era NFS and try to revert the damage they did to a once glorious racing franchise. Too bad it's developed by a tag team of ex criterion busriders so it's just going to be awful.
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>>21218732
You only list connection bandwidth as the total stat when your actual output is dogshit
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>>21218145
They did a new tire update this week. I have barely played the game before it since I thought it drove terribly but I'd imagine old setups don't work as good as they used to.
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>>21218743
is this the plot of NFS Meat?
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>>21218731
No, all drivers pass through that low level interface. Then the usermode device driver really just adds branding.
Most non Xbox wheels work both on Win32 games and UWP games because they switch drivers on the fly, all thanks to ACPI underneath.
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>>21218753
NFS Mort
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>>21218749
If your device's output capabilities are bottlenecked by the connection bandwidth, then that's the natural outcome.
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>>21218743
rosso corsa
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>>21218747
>They should go back to pre PS2 era NFS
>what is HP2010
>what is Rivals
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Can we please speak of seat movers and motion rigs

I found a seat mover for 800$ yesterday any one ever tried one I feel it would be good motivation for me to loose weight as I'm at limit it supports
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>>21218756
Its a special dumb wheel that has no PC driver and is only detected by forza and nothing els driverless thru some Xbox shit plz help you seem smart
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>>21218780
Nothing els works with it and there is no driver MonkaS
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>>21218773
dog shit
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>>21218774
https://www.amazon.com/Interactive-Compatible-Stimulating-Massager-Satisfying/dp/B07RZXK1NH/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=bluetooth+dildo&qid=1565815368&s=gateway&sr=8-1

got you sorted brother
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>>21218774
what brand
the cheapest one i've used is some vesaro shit and it's good enough to jolt you over bumps and tilt you in the corners, without simulating exxxxxtreme Gs
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>>21218785
Well it's what you wanted, now stop pretending they didn't try to make that kind of games again.
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>>21218773
the progression in rivals feels retards and the online integration makes freeroam feel bad
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>>21218773
Both games made by Criterion busriders that feature tap brake to drift bullshit. Essentially trash.
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>>21218795
I think it was this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeidFZsAXhM
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>>21218800
they didn't
they made casual garbage with no depth.
all NFS after HPII are dogshit
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Need for Speed Hit or Miss
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>>21218831
Need for Sneed
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>>21218830
>all NFS after HPII are dogshit
HP2 had AI that was literally made of rubber bands. Don't act like it was that great.
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Maybe it will be not terrible for once.
https://www.escapistmagazine.com/v2/2019/08/14/need-for-speed-heat-has-no-loot-boxes-says-community-manager/
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>>21218795
>>21218814
don't hit the top bar and just scroll down on this page for all their stuff
https://dofreality.com/
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>>21218837
literally just drive faster
it's fucking need for speed what are you gonna do, crash? lmao
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>>21218843
>people look forward to a game not having loot boxes
what a world
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>>21218851
skins are fun thou WTF fuck EA. skins are apart of gamer culture.
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>>21218698
can't be worse than Payback
hopefully it will get cracked too
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>>21218626
T300 has a 14 bit per rotation hall effect sensor per the datasheet. Cannot use a more precise one.
https://ams.com/documents/20143/36005/AS5048_DS000298_4-00.pdf/910aef1f-6cd3-cbda-9d09-41f152104832
That is 16k positions per 360 deg, wheel does 3 turns lock to lock so you get around 50k raw positions. However, that doesn't fit in a 15 bit number so while it is technically a 16 bit output it doesn't use the full range.

Yeah also that guy rambling about why analog is better doesn't have a single clue.
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>>21218892
i want to punch this fucking pikeys head in
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>>21218814
desu i'd probably try and stretch to the cheapest one that moves the whole rig
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>>21218889
Solid find.
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>>21218595
Dude, if you have a wheel with less than 900 degrees of rotation and 1:1 with the real steering, you are beyond help.

Fucking morons up in here.
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>>21218697
>>21218703
lol you pussy ass faggot way to leave an argument
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>>21218774
Motion rigs are fucking useless bullshit. I used a VERY expensive one at a car show once and it's like driving a sim while being on a bucking bronco, it feels nothing like real track driving (which I have done). It reacts too slow, it doesn't replicate the real sensations AT ALL (it feels more like being in an airplane where the pilot tries to maneuver based on what happens on screen), it's worthless.

The optimal sim setup is a 900 degree or more FFB wheel and maybe a powerful sub woofer so you can feel tire slide a little better. There's nothing out there that properly replicates G's, if you want that, go find a good kart facility (not the putt putts, the race kind).
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>>21218698
with audio:
>>>/wsg/2995495
>select all images with palm trees
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>>21218993
track racing doesn't use more than 240deg not even 270deg actually watch a track race they don't turn more than that as they cant let go of wheel.

for rally or horizon or some thing where you drive realisticly on real roads on city tracks thou 900deg is good but im not sure if dirt 2.0 is even a good game.
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>>21219012
FFB is not sim thou probably means vibration is still the best thing as I don't like driving with sound on.
maybe ill get that hori wheel.
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>>21219052
or do some games sound ques before they display vibration moments?
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>>21219041
>track racing doesn't use more than 240deg not even 270deg
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>>21219052
I'll show you force feedback and vibration in a sec.
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>>21219041
Not the point, retard. The point is that you need to have it 1:1 to the true steering angle, when you have a reduced steering angle you usually get built-in assists like a controller-using faggot.

Also, fucking Forza Horizon? Who are these children I'm talking to? No Forza is a fucking sim you dipshit.
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>>21219052
FFB is Force Feedback, it's a system that realistically makes the wheel react like it would in a real car. It's not just vibration, it weights the wheel and will even it spin it by itself based on how a real steering wheel would. If you play anything with a wheel and it doesn't have that, you may as well use a controller.
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>>21219061
>when you have a reduced steering angle you usually get built-in assists like a controller-using faggot
Not necessarily AC just compresses the steering range to suit your wheel.
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>>21218892
>>21218905
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>>21218889
wrong you in crisis control as you didn't know hall effect is digital. you can see both Logitech and TM wheels jump steps even in youtube quality. they are both digital wheels its that simple.

50$ wheels and 5000$ wheels are analogue

all the shitty 100-1800$ ones are digital

its that simple. you got tricked. all of these digital ones talk about the max output of the controller chip not the actual sensors DIGITAL info which they fucking do know but refuse to release. its bad and you know it. SELL SELL SELL
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>>21219068
Yeah, that's unrealistic and gay. Also, if you don't have proper force feedback you're not getting the true experience and likely learning a lot of bad habits that would actually make you dangerous behind the wheel of a real car. 900 degree or more FFB or GTFO.
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>>21219065
no its not its a gimic from the 90s desu
>and a waste of money learn what power steering is
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>>21219086
OMG, you are so clueless, I'm having a hard time believing you're not just trolling. This has nothing to do with power steering, even with power steering the weight of the wheel changes with steering angle and things like losing grip and sliding. A proper FFB wheel will do exactly what a real car steering wheel would do, your faggy bungee cord bullshit is about as realistic as a Playskool toddler toy.
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>>21219058
fucking American education doesn't know what 240deg is.

its 120deg in each way

that wheel is not more than 120deg the fact you don't know that is fucking sad and a shame on the 1st world.
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>>21219089
the faster you go litearlly the more power steering kicks in it uses a fluid that builds up from engine pressure you fucking moron.

the reason you think cars are hard to drive is you are like 60years old and drive a 40mph every where and it hurts your arms so you imagine the guys that go fast must really hurt

seriously retire.
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>>21219090
It's irrelevant. F1 cars are not the only cars and F1 racks are way tighter than any road car. The 900 degrees is so it's 1:1, it has nothing to do with how many you need in practice. I never use the full rotation of the wheel, but you need that rotation to get a true 1:1 steering rotation that the real car would have.
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>>21219102
lol

you guys don't even know how to configure the games you say are shit you don't even know that FFB is a total scam and larp yet you all have wasted 1000$+ over the years on it

im done here you guys have 0 clue about sims. you literally say one is good or bad based on if you worked out the controller options menu properly. this place is too senile of me
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>>21219090
I'm not american and my point is real track cars use more than 180deg each way from center as shown in the pic
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>>21219098
That's not what I'm talking about you god damn mongoloid. I have driven on a fucking race track and know how this shit fucking works. This has nothing to do with "hard to drive", your bungee cord bullshit is not a realistic experience. I never said it had to be set to be a fucking Bowflex, it's about how it dynamically changes the resistance according to what the wheels are doing, bungee cords cannot do that. You're too clueless to even be in this discussion, so shut the fuck up and ask your mommy to buy you a proper FFB and come back when you know somewhat what you're talking about.
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>>21219108
OMG YOU ARE SO SAD IF YOU THINK THAT IS MORE THAN 180deg rotation seriously go back to middle school
OMGFG WHAT THE FUCK DID YOUR NATION DO TO YOUR GROWING MIND>
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>>21219109
no you haven't
dont d
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>>21219116
he turned it more than 180 deg to the left
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>>21219109
>imagine being this sad you wasted 300$.
most teenagers can earn that in 2 days work
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>all that autism started because of me posting a pic of a T300
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>>21219126
no it isn't goog
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>>21219126
no it isn't google angles bro.

that's 90deg add the rest to see if its more than 120deg.
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>>21219131
Thanks Valrys
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>>21219077
Show me a 5000 buck analogue wheel, I dare you.
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There is nuthing funnier than the panic in this tread that they all have been using toys with microwave motors attached ... We all fucked up and was duped into low quality digital toys for 2 decades why do you think inside sim racing had a mental brake down they realised it too
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>>21219190
So is a self-assembled DD wheel the only option?
>inside sim racing had a mental brake down they realised it too
Link?
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reminder that the crew accepts all inputs with grace
play the crew on your pad, wheel or joystick
buy the cru play the cru
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>>21219181
Watch IRL racing they are in the pits sims I seen a shop for a NASCAR one 8years ago for 5k also its a real wheel shaft with a expensive analogue sensor attached . or you know all bungee wheels are analogue also

Reason ffb can't be analogue is motor brakes the analogue sensors arm so they forced to use non contact magnet or light based digital stepped sensors
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>>21219202
No DD is also digital hal/light sensor and stepped
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>>21219116
>>21219140
look at 0:27 in this video and try to tell me that he doesn't turn the wheel more than 180 degrees
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mO6HyNj8Owk

you do realize that's the bottom of the steering wheel pointing upwards in the photo right
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FFB is not sim racing
Clutch is not Motorsport
iRacing is a DOS game in wrapper
ISI lie and don't work on commercial sims
We have no need for Need for Speed
ACC is always going to be underaged
GT+FM are sim
AC is a forza clone

I have spoken
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>>21219243
Oh sorry slow city track you are right
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REMINDER

TONIGHT

9PM EST

BOTTOMSPLIT AT BRISTOL

http://twitch.tv/bottomsplit

BE HERE OR BE QUEER
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>>21219270
>Handel's
You have to go Bach
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>>21219273
Drive fast game good grog grog me fast easy must be best grog grog
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>>21219259
yeah ok good job pretending that was your argument and you weren't just being a retard
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>>21219190
>inside sim racing had a mental brake down they realised it too
What
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Where did all the good sims go

I remember getting into it in 2009/10/11 had so much hope for future now in 2019 games are just the same thing but fiddled with to silly degree and honestly worse

Its very clear no new tech or math has been done just randomly changing presets every 18months so sad sim dads dream of tommoroe never came
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>>21219287
>not braking with sheer mental power
single digit iq detected
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>>21219289
Every one was too busy with social media and programmers lost interest in cars as a performance item probably via silicon lifestyle2.0

Unironically car games could stay at this 2009 level for ever now unless a manufacturer leaks a inhouse sim to sell cars
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>>21219315
Which they will only do once electric is enough of a problem and we waiting 45mins to charge when enough of us are doing that they might leak some high tech game made by their in house people for us to play till then we stuck in same depth of sims

No one is actively developing anything at sim conventions there is some times some new project but they prob all terrible or if good gobbled up and kept private by Toyota or some thing
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Any one have a good config to play rf2 on a pad?
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>>21219342
these worked in rf probably work in rf2 too maybe possibly idk
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I just bought my first wheel in over a decade of playing with 360 or PS4 controllers and I'm pretty excited.

T300 RS GT if anyone cares, almost got a G29 with shifter for a bit less but I figure all the reviews said it's shifter was shit anyway so may as well go with the better wheel.
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>>21219343

Do you have one for AC also?
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#HashtagBanSimqueers
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>>21219357
Not him but the settings he posted were mine.
I could never get anything I liked in AC or rF2 so I just use my wheel.
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>>21219350
Make sure to turn off FFB for maximum sim value
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>>21218698
NFS Shit is what I think
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New cars for Forza Street
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>>21218721
>PCARS has bad track reproduction

iRacing has like ancient fucking layouts for tracks as well

the car roster is somewhat dated that it makes rfactor 2 look better
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>>21218553
>meme flares and meme camber
Already off to a great start.
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>>21219603
>forza
who cares m8
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>>21218698
I'm expecting Undercover levels of police brutality.
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riders on the storm.....
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>>21219131
>Killnaan posting

Based
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>>21218471
Can you imagine using a shifter 4 inches in front of you steering wheel? No wonder the Chinese-can't-drive meme exists. Can't even make a real simulator controller.
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>>21218471
>6 hours in and already half a thread
Not too bad folks
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>>21219220
Why can't we get retarded, opinionated shitheads that aren't completely insane ramblers?
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https://youtu.be/2ntq0LwM99A
https://youtu.be/PN2hfSLHoYA

Tell me this isn't real life
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>>21220079
it isn't real life
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>>21220140
with the shit ive been reading in the past 4 threads im not sure if this is real life either
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>>21220225
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>>21220079
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>>21220033
fuck off barney
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into this word were thrown.....
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>>21219384
What joke. Real cars have power steering so even just the weight is helpful immersion wise and the jerking when wheel slips is a meme but it’s better then no feedback and going off of visual alone. There are no G meters to let you feel the tires so it’s better
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>>21219690
Yeah the GT line up is depressing especially vs PC2 and ACC. There is also no cars at all for street stuff. They’re slow at adding them as well.

They need to start adding classics and be stuff and run an HPDE event for points and to practice passing étiqueté and other stuff.

E30 M3, Lotus Elise, F50, C6 Z06, E60 M5 etc.
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>>21220323
Have you ever actually played that game? If you did you'd know your idea is terrible. Nobody does the classic car races besides 1 or 2 times a week and there's already plenty of rookie series to practice racing. Last thing iRacing needs is more dead in the water participation series after the new car honeymoon ends.
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>>21219058
>Posting the ONE TRACK that F1 changes steering racks for
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like a dog without a bone or a g27 out on loan
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>>21219107
ok good luck at english class tomorrow and dont let the door hit you on the way out
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>>21220079
>zero damage
>tires are invulnerable
>car is invulnerable
ehhh, I mean teh long maps are nice but this lack of sim value...
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>european car modders make everything from scratch, are pillars of the community
>japanese car modders convert everything from gran turismo or forza, keep everything private and are annoying weebs
wow, how strange!
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>>21218471
Why is he holding his right hand there?
I was about to buy a PlaySeat Challenge, but it have no place to put the gear stick

>>21218678
What game, anon?
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>>21220583
The Crew 2
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>>21220599
Damn.
I only have The Crew(1), but maybe put 2 hours on it.

A shame.
Thanks though.
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>>21220612
it's better in some ways and worse in others, but mostly better.
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>>21219350
>he fell for the ffb meme
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>>21220298
power steering removes the weight not adds it you moron. and the faster you go the more power steering pressure is built in the fluid so the even lighter it gets

the only reason to use FFB is if you are simulating a 40mph driving lesson simulator.
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any one have rf2 or AC 360pad settings.

pref a config that is similar to GT/forza so I can compare all4. a iracing one would be nice too.
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>>21220468
but i do and i think that game is a ton of fun
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Power steering lightens the load by injecting powerful electrons into the hydraulic fluid. FFB can't do this, because there's no fluid inside the apparatus.
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>>21220565
you were looking for a reply so here it is :)
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>>21220797
I use FFB to make your existence a pain.
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>>21220837
>fluid damped
>no FFB
The ECCI TRACKSTAR 6000 is the official wheel of nu-/ovg/
http://ecci6000.com/6000_wheel_01.htm
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>>21218747
High Stakes and Porsche Unleashed already dealt damage to the series with their "realism" that only sounded good on paper.
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>>21219289
You now realize racing game hating normies were right all along, they knew car games were nothing more than sports games down to the rehashing road map.
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>>21220903

fucking ugly boomer wheel
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>>21220843
I don't care just means you don't have a sim setup. but a late 90s "FEEL GLOVE" gimic setup
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>>21220802
DOES ANY ONE KNOW
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>>21220972
I sit in an office chair, hook my wheel onto a desk and use it to play video games on a computer screen. I don't want or need a sim setup or feel glove????? (is it something you shove up your ass in your spare time?) setup, I just think FFB makes racing games more enjoyable to play and you constantly calling it shit won't convince me otherwise :)
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>when you realise that FFB doesn't actually matter in the big scheme of things
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>>21221000
no FFB is a late 90s meme "feel the game shit" and nothing like IRL racing.
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>>21221036
That's nice but it makes the game more fun to play and I play video games to have fun so I don't care at all about whatever you're saying.
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>>21218655
Too bad the tire physics are dog shit.

Honestly, PCARS 2 against bots is the best simulation of real life racing I’ve seen, even in iRacing people will still do dickhead shit because it’s not real life and won’t have to fix it.
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>>21219357
>>21220786
The FFB on the last wheel I had (Logitch MOMO) failed and it was basically useless. Damn sure wasn't fun to use. Straight tired of the gsmepad shit too.
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>>21221048
but you spend 300$+ on it because you thought it was real. and people endlessly debate its config in games even thou its pointless crap and literally vibration is more sim.
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>>21221049
Pcars2 is a need for speed game reskinned you naff fool you just like it because its easy to drive and "looks like" a sim. the driving is horribly simple
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>>21221061
Where are you getting these assumptions from? I knew it wasn't real, I just bought a wheel with FFB because it's more fun than using a gamepad or keyboard. And I don't care about what people debate about, I use what settings I like to use and that's it.
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What's /ovg/'s opinion on Tough Trucks: Modified Monsters?
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>>21221075
wrong you read a guide and thought you had too.

you wasted money on a shitty digital wheel when you should have got a analogue non FFB model.
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Wheels are for losers
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>>21221106
Would be nice if the proper racing device actually posted. If you don't run a HKS controller you ain't shit
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>>21221116
i too miss madcatz
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>>21220079
these guys are making the new TDU
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>>21221086
No I didn't copy any guides for their wheel settings. I at most read what each setting does and adjusted things to what I thought was the most enjoyable. How can you even think you can tell me what I did and didn't do? Do you just come here to tell people to stop having fun and enjoying things? Because /v/ is a few boards down my friend.
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ffb is haram
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Has /o/ ever decided on a unified cross game WAT color scheme/livery?
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>>21221168
nope, but you can just rip off the watini livery
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>>21221179
gross
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>>21221168
no the point is that you take the logo and possibly put it on a classic livery or make your own with whatever sponsor
be a bit creative
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>>21221249
I'm gonna make a rainbow WAT car just you watch. Maybe that'd get the artfag from a while back posting again too that'd be funny.
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>>21221168
>>21221436
No and never will because WAT the whole point is what >>21221249 said.

Making a unified WAT livery or color scheme is reddit tier dumb shit
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What vidya will most realistically teach me how to drive stick? I'd rather spend money on a game+wheel+shifter than 5k+ on a car.
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>>21221547
None. You need a car to learn stick
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>>21221547
None.

You can't recreate the sensations of feeling out the clutch with a video game.

Buy a car and learn properly like a normal person.
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>>21221547
no.
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>>21221547
rent a manual car over a weekend
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FFB is good
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if you can't say nigger that means you're a basedboy
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>>21221643
language
fren pls
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>>21221547
Can’t be done
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>>21221655
JUST SAY THE WORD
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>>21220380
Well my idea is more to give a sandbox for all the dead cars to be used with other people on the track. Sort of how AC is dead except for TouristFahrten servers where anyone can get in and drive any car they want.

You throw up a an A B C D Touristfahrten server where any car is allowed and give people a place to drive the dead cars. Nobody wants to drive Industryfahrten racing series because it’s going to wreck safety rating. But everyone likes GTE and the ring. Basically it’s practice mode but incidents with other cars affects rating and flying off track does not. It allows users to use cars they purchased that are ‘dead’ experiment with tunes, and gives a place to bring in some iconic cars for playing with.
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FFB is not very good
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>>21220797
Oh boy. Look at this autistic poor retard. My Lotus Elise has no power steering. My BMW has only light power steering. I don’t want to use a plastic wheel that feels like a little tykes plastic car wheel. Real sports cars all have relatively heavy steering even with power assist. It makes the games feel right sort of like rumble packs shaking your controller when you fire a weapon in the game.

>REAL GUNS DONT HAVE RUMBLE PACKS HERRR DERRR DERRR

Please go stack some blocks and avoid making eye contact somewhere else you autistic moron
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best somewhat sim for ps2?
>gran turismo 3/4
>enthusia
>?
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>>21221716
gt4 but with a qt cousin
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>>21221716
problem I have with GT4 is the cockpit camera, looks like ass without the steering, dashboard or even a little piece of the front of the car showing
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>>21221086
Dude give up. Nobody here is so poor they spend all day trying to convince others that a shitty entry level plastic wheel is better than a T300.

It’s not. It feels like cheap plastic becuase it is. Guess what. When I hit a curb in my bmw the wheel responds. Hit a bump the wheel responds.

https://youtu.be/de9GlS5ibXY

Watch what happens when they hit the curb at CotA then go get a job for the weekend and buy a fucking proper wheel or stfu. It’s not even expensive you poor fag. Sorry mommy won’t buy you a toy, go earn $300 bucks. It takes a day of work.
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>>21221716
Tourist Trophy
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>>21221547
None!
Stop asking this!
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>>21221729
fuck, I had given up fiding a (decent) TT ps2 game.
thank fren
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>>21221710
pls post Elise
that would be better than the faggotry taking place
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>>21221725
>tfw rr3 will never play gt4 with you
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>>21221737
that shit still is one of the best bike vidya ever made
fucking Kaz
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>>21221547
nothing teaches you how to drive a stick better than the absolute fear of continuously letting your dad's car die as he starts to lose patience and you get more and more afraid of fucking the car's gears
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>>21221716

Toca Touring Cars 3 or Race Driver 3 whatever it was called.

Test Drive Driven to destruction has solid physics for an off-roader too, original Flatout is also not too shabby.
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>>21218488
>Need For Street: Pajeet Shit
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I want to learn more about cars because I am a brainlet. Are the Mechanic Simulator games good for this?
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FFB Conspiracy guy hasn't realized that real life is itself a simulation. A racing game is a simulation of a simulation, and is perceived differently per person. It doesn't matter if you have FFB or not, because nothing is objectively real anyway.
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>>21221844
Fuck no. Casual trash. Play My Summer Car instead.
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>>21221854
Is this a serious rec or a meme rec? Never heard of the game but it looks kind of memey.
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>>21221864
Both. You can learn how to assemble an engine while pissing on people.
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>>21221844
heck no
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>>21221844
play 'wrench'
its on steam
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How do you guys play motorcycle games? Controller or wheel?
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>>21221643
ah but can you say onions boy?
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>>21221116
>Here's you controller bro
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Logiquake
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>>21222185
thrustfarter
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Gran Turismo 5 and Gran Turismo Sport are actually the same graphics
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What's the best car in ACC?
Not snap oversteering to death every corner is a big merit.
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>>21222496
Honda NSX, as long as you're ok with being two seconds off pace
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>>21222505
>two seconds off pace
Ayyy. There's no happy medium, is there?
How do all the gentleman drivers even manage?
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>>21222545
By driving the Ferrari
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I finally pulled myself out of alcoholism to make a skin for the series
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>>21222545
Supposedly the NSX evo fixed that.
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>>21222570
Is that in ACC now?
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>>21218553
Is purple the new MK-Ultra colour? Look around the games like fortnite or whatever the kids are playing nowadays, awful lot of purple hues.
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What has McLaren got against having speed indicators in their GT3 cars?
Scared of having the drivers know how slow the things are on a straight?
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any one have a good 360controller profile for Rf2 or AC ?
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>>21222578
Purple is the new brown.
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>>21222578
no it's just the whole neon aesthetics thing that zoomers like so much, don't know for how long vaporwave garbage will keep trending but if previous trends like wub wub shit are an indication not long
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>>21222558
Where's the anime?
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>>21222545
they're 2+ seconds off pace and happily race there with other drivers 2+ seconds off pace and try their best to not get in the way of the leading cars or crash out of the race
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>>21222558
Very nice
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Is that true that WRC 7 runs poorly on PC? I'm reading the steam reviews and some say that it is not well optimized and there are stutters and hiccups but I don't know if it's on their end only.
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>>21222670
i7-7700HQ GTX 1070 16 GB RAM runs fine in 1080p highest settings so I'm inclined to say it's fine
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Are cars supposed to stall every time they come to a stop if you don't hold down the clutch?
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>>21221927
I played through MCM2 on keyboard recently
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>>21222743
But is it good? The other Wrc games were pretty aweful
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>>21222866
how else is the engine supposed to move when you come to a stop?
...do you not know what it is for?
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>>21222884
So, you have to do that every time there is a red light?
Man, driving must suck irl.
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>>21222872
Imagine paying big bucks for a toy that's only supported by like one game.
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>>21222866
lmao
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>>21222903
Just shift to neutral when at the red light
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>>21222903
yes, then you put it in neutral and you can release the clutch.
it's basically a disc made out of reinforced sandpaper attached to the input shaft of the transmission, but pressed against the flywheel on the engine by a ring of springs. when you push the clutch pedal down, a lever is actuated by either a cable or hydraulic pressure that pulls the disc away from the flywheel and allows the engine to be disconnected from the rest of the drivetrain. this allows the transmission's gear to be changed, in the moment when there is nothing on the other end of it.
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>>21222907
>only one game
hold up
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>>21221844
buy a textbook
read in tandem with some EE, wooder and ETCG
srs
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>>21218831
I guess
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>>21221643
This but unironically
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>>21222584
Kek
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>>21222876
Yes it is pretty good, though I would honestly save the money and wait for WRC 8.
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>>21222903
not really no it's a pretty basic operation to pop it into neutral at red lights or like, hold the clutch down
it can't be difficult most europeans especially the poor ones all have manuals
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Nobody noticed that the license plates of the traffic in FH4 say "kek"?
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>>21222584
you litteraly do not need a spedometer in a car. it's irrelevant information
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>>21223655
like a year ago you filthy weeb trash pirate
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Forza 7 is a pain to get to work on W10 LTSC. What other games should I consider? I'd like to tune and customize my cars in a sandbox but still be able to race.
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sorry that was rude
you're probaly clean enough
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>>21223743
what did you expect? LTSC removes the very framework needed to download and install the fucking game.
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>>21223743
>no windows store
>wtf why does Forza 7 work like shit in LTSC
shame on you, eurofag
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>>21222907
Joke's on you it's kickstarter vaporware so you're actually paying to imagine paying for a toy.

Its total inability to be reflected in some gay video game for children, strange boomers, and BRs is what makes bike racing the hero modern motorsport needs though. Nobody wants to watch some bank manager fuck complaining he has to take too many weekends off from jewing poorfags to race an international level series run only a second off the broke ass that dedicated his entire life to driving cars being paid to coach him. Gimme dem 2 wheels where the fastest rider in your country will get buttfucked 2s/lap+ by some Spanish twink on the same bike.
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>>21223743
>fell for the techie memes
im sure you were real concerned about the evil updates despite having no real knawlege of computing
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>>21223955
W10 having a bunch of bloat is not a "techie meme"
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>>21223972
yes but in this case you've debloated the ability to operate the software you want
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>lp570-4 super truffle
>rwd

breh
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>>21223838
>>21223804
>>21223955

No shit. I'm not going to jump through hoops to reinstall bloat. I'm a Sys/Network Admin, I try to avoid doing anything related at home. I wanted alternatives, not pity.
Niggers.
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>>21224522
>Niggers.
language
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At least something redeeming about sHeat
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kek
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>>21224549
theres going to be a catch
they havent ruled out dual currency and havent actually said how it will be monetized
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>>21224522
I'm like 90% sure that you can't run Forza 7 or FH4 without the Microsoft store; it's an odd filetype that previously was only on the Xbone.
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>>21224522
you're gonna need that bloat for Forza 7
also something something I was just memeing you, fellow sysadmin anon
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>>21224532
english
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>>21224557
>stop bitching about the game being shit
https://youtu.be/kJ2djNORNfE?t=8
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>>21224696
STOP IT :(
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>>21224696
Is this?!
That's right, this is the ultimate racing game NFS Heat
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NFS Skeet
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More like NFS Yeet
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NFSneed and Feed
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NFS reee
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>>21224735
Skeet skeet mofucker
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>>21221655
it's 4chan of course someone will say nigger you stupid nigger
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>>21225371
I love it when you try to act all edgy.
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>>21225417
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>>21225479
>>21225479

here's a new thread try not to turn it to shit 10 posts in thanks
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>>21225371
>>21225455
cringe
>>21225417
based
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>>21218698
it is utter shit like every other NFS game after most wanted. stop playing arcade racing games and grow up. play a sim ffs



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