https://youtu.be/VUSj_9vS2o8tl;dw>stock tested 342hp and ran 12.8>Just a tune gives 442hp and does 11.48It's worth noting that this test was done in Florida in July. Stock Supras have been run as low as 12.1 in better climates, so the Supra can theoretically run 10s for under $60
ZL1 Camaros can run high tens from the factory for 60k.
>>21217012Ok but we’re talking about actually good cars here not cletus’s shitmaro
>>21217018>a rebadge BMW
>>21217012They're also $11000 more and weighs like 800lbs more
>>21217002Stock mustang GT's run a 12.4 for $40k. inb4>yeah but the supra is actually good!>iiiits a ford!>just wait until they crack the tuning code and aftermarket starts making these things in the 9s!
>>21217002It's too ugly. I don't care how fast it is. It really doesn't matter.
>>21217002worst car ever a disgrace to the real supra
>>21217040Still better than any American pos
>>21217063>Just wait until they crack the tuning codeThey already have, the car uses a BMW ECU and the B58 has been cracked for a while now lmao
>>21217002>needing "just a tune" on a $50,000 vehicleThis is where they fucked up. This thing should cost about 28k and you spend the rest of your money making it actually fast.
>>21217289>$28k for a 6cyl RWD 2-door car that puts out ~300hpyou're borderline retarded, not even the V6 Mustang/Camaro/370z is that cheap
BRO ITS NOT A REAL SUPRA BRO PAUL WALKER BRO
>>21217289Literally every car needs a tune. Cars come from the factory with a one-size-fits-all tune that's supposed to perform decently while meeting EPA and CAFE and whatever other regulations. Once you buy it though, those regulations aren't your problem, so you have the ability to unlock a more potential car. There's no reason to not tune a modern car.
>>21217063It can’t turn as well
>>21217018You trash opinion is not a valid criticism. See below for critical thinking and valid criticism.>>21217051
>>21217069Still better than a MKV
>>21217002That's actually pretty impressive. Wonder how they will go reliability wise. Might get one 2nd hand if they hold up
>>21217307Neither of those cars is as barebones as the Supra either you fucking brainlet.
Its so funny people acting like the supra is some crazy new tech. BMW has been doing under tuned over engineered motors since 2007 (see n54) that run literally 80% more HP than stock with bolt ons and tune. All the new turbo I6 motors BMW has put out in the last decade are insanely tune-able.
>>21217002>driving in a straight lineEpic.
>>21217012>60kSo $10k more? That's pretty bad
>>21217737Sure show me which dealership is selling Supra at MSRP. I seen high as 100k after mark up. Fuck Supra
>>21217735it's good on a track too nigger
>>21217002https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VPSym7plM8ETuned Supra losing to a stock c6 vette with passenger.
>>21217761>buying a new car and paying new car jew taxretard
>>21217761Not only that but i can just walk into a Chevy dealer and get a $50k discount on the ZL1
>>21217775BMW has real motorsport heritage. Why so mad?
>>21217002My stock f-body did a 12.8 in 2002.
>Flash tuning an extra 100bhp into a BMW engine.JUST.
>>21217012The downside to that is you have to drive a chevy camaro.
>>21217839>Better engine.>Better chassis.>More reliable.Oh no the humanity!
>timing chain on back of engine>50k miles worth of carbon build up in less than 600 mileshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MckxlP60cnY
>>21217859>these things are true because I say they are
>>21217933>Denying the proven prowess of the alpha platform and LS based engines
>>21217735With an automatic gearbox. Even more epic.
>>21217012>>21217051>>21217018You what?You can buy a 650hp sub 11 second ZL1 for 55k, completely stock. Also with the ability to turn at speed without rolling over. For an extra 7k you can get track/race braking, suspension, and handling Nobody wants your overpriced rebadged shitbox for 60k + 15k for tune/mods LOL. Also enjoy voiding the warranty lmao eurocuck.
>>21217786so 5k for new car? sounds legit
>>21217315I live in California though so wouldn't they check it a lot? Would i have to "un-tune" it?
>>21217761Fuck supra and fuck jannies
>>21218622If it's like the car in the video which still has the factory cat and muffler it would probably still do fine in an emissions test. In the event it wasn't then you can flip to a different map slot in 5 seconds that would be basically the same as the factory tune.
>>21217859>gm trash >more reliable>gm chassis>better haha, what a retard
>>21217775Call them. You never walked into dealership before huh?
>>21217002Yeah I'm pretty pleased with the numbers they're putting down from the factory, when I heard about the launch and >335hp>3,300lbsI was laughing at it. Luckily it seems that they're making more than 335whp from the factory so they're actually pretty quick. Unfortunately I haven't had the chance to drive one yet so I can't comment on the dynamics and feel, but if recent BMW Z cars are any indication, it should feel really nice.Shame about the styling though. I saw one in person at a show and it looked worse than it does in pictures. That was disappointing...
>>21218908Autotrader isn't a dealership anon...
>>21218963You can find the said dealership on them and call to ask wtf is mark up. You know that was the whole point I was trying to make
>>21219014Why would I call them and ask them about something that doesn't exist?
>>21217051The "Supra" isn't light enough to go playing the weight game.
Wow, 12.8 seconds.So slower than an LS1 Camaro from 20 years ago.Truly the ultimate driving machine.
>>21219128>12.8 seconds*in July in FloridaYou should 100% expect to see times between 11.9-.12.1 bone stock at TX2K20
>>21217063Stock auto GTs are hitting high 11's.
>>21217069This Also, that design made it all the way to drawings, meetings, and then showroom floors. “Yup, this is it guys. This looks amazing” My dog shits turds that are better looking.
>>21219380Only with the performance package. Put that on top of the GT Premium and you're looking at a $46k car. I wouldn't mind paying the extra $4k for a significantly smaller car, even if it's pretty ugly and doesn't sound as good.
>>21219496>somehow a 40k PP1 car is now $46kOh, ok Anon.
>>21219496The base trim SS will run high 11s as well.
>>21219581I would rather pay $38000 to not drive a base model Camaro
>>21217018>that instinctive cope response
>>21219512Mustang GT Premium - 39.6k10 speed - 1.6kPerformance package - 4kGives you 45.2 + 800 destination for 46kAnd then it's another 2k for the digital gauge cluster which is standard on the Supra so 48k.Looking at the Mustang build and price website pisses me off though because the way they bundle options is retarded. One of the most desirable things on a Mustang that you can't get on a Supra is the heated and ventilated seats, but you can't get both those and the digital cluster. Pretty dumb.
>>21219674Or not be retarded and get a manual, base GT for 34,500 + performance pack, and haggle your way out the door at $40k with 1.9% financing.
>>21217040Can this meme get any more stale?
>>21217012the thread for fisher-price interiors is the next block over
>>21217002>a toyota z4 with some tasteful modifications will perform how it should have from the factory
>>21219718>a manual, base GTI don't want a shitty car though.
>>21219737Yeah, total shit. God forbid you dont get the radar cruise and GPS... You know... For those times you can't be bothered to adjust your speed on the highway, or forget your phone at home to use Waze.
>>21217859>ancient pushrod v8 cletus flintstone feetus mobile
>>21219736I was going to say something like>12s from the factory isn't fast enough>it's not a 911 broThen I realized a $40,000 Mustang GT auto runs 11s and I was like yeah, it may not be as bad as 335bhp/3,300lbs like the specs had me thinking, but the new supra should at least be faster than a Mustang.
>>21219744Sorry I value having a nice interior. Buying a new bare bones Mustang is a gargantuan waste of money. If all you care about is going in a straight line fast then you can do that for a helluva lot cheaper. I want a car that I actually enjoy being inside of, and if it's fun too then that's even better.
>>21219754And yet still better than anything the Bavarians shit out. Really makes you think.
>>21219638Are you just pretending to be retarded?The base model Camaro is the 4 banger at $25k ish.The SS is not even the middle model.
>>21220020You 1000% knew exactly what I meant.
>>21217012>>21217018>>21217040>>21217051>>21217063>>21217067>>21217069>>21217156>>21217289>>21217311>>21217315>>21217320>>21217321>>21217437>>21217452>>21217654>>21217697>>21217735>>21217737>>21217761>>21217781>>21217786>>21218596>>21218615>>21218622>>21218955>>21219674>>21219736this thread is both total shit and totally awesome at the same time. The COPE and SEETHING levels are off the charts. I hope no one forgets their bus pass on the way to work tomorrow. Pic related.
>>21220213>dude i quoted everybody!stop fucking doing this newfag
>>21217002It could be GT2-beating speeds for $35k and still sell like shit. It's the principle of the thing, not to mention the atrocious styling. They renewed the nameplate specifically to target fans of the old cars; cloning a BMW Z4 is generally not what Supra fans were hoping for. Shit, at least develop your own engine, aren't they the biggest automaker on the planet?
>>21218622Worked for VW, at least for a while.
>>21221035This should be a bannable offense.
>>21220213lol what is there to defend about this car? isn't the z4 identical numbers? atleast that shit aint frontin
>>21221060They just make shitty cuck engines now
>>21217018Ok buts it's actually a BMW, Hans.
>>21221091>isn't the z4 identical numbers?nah, the stock Nupra is legit faster than the stock Z4.https://youtu.be/atNosTtdUaE?t=72
>>21221091Lighter and faster than the Z4 in drag race but obviously the big different is chassis rigidity. So keep waiting for official test time on tracks.
>>21221252aww look at how tiny his hands are on the wheel
>>21221060Why waste a billion dollars making an engine when you can use one someone else already made? It's not like Toyota can use a turbo straight 6 in a lot of their other cars.
>>21217002dont care about your drag faggotry but it can pull over 1.1g during braking and over 1.1g during corners so that got me interested.
>>21221091>isn't the z4 identical numbers?it turns and drives like a gt car without a roof, supra is more like a sports car.