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>>20811873Get a load of this toyota cock sucker
>>20811877yeah I fucked up they belong in B tier
>>20811873here's my bike list
>>20811884>Suzuki top tierBased
The only correct list.
>>20811873So is Honda like the Mugen rider for the C class?
/o/ already decided this a few years ago.
>>20811965that's a battle royale not a tier listalso how the FUCK did nissan beat Lexus
>>20811965>benz beating out Porsche>nissan beating out Honda>jeep beating out oldsmobile>volva beating holden>Ford not even standing a fucking chanceshit fucking taste all around
>>20811873>>20811877>>20811884>>20811891>>20811899>>20811939>>20811960fuck off reddit
>>20812009I guess 2013 was a different time
>>20811965That list is an abysmal failure from an objective stand.Objectively speaking from a car enthusiasts perspective, Aston would beat Jag, Mclaren would beat Mercedes, Rolls would beat bentley, Mazda would beat Nissan, Mercury would beat Buick.Brackets tend to shit on people in the first couple rounds making them appear lesser too. AMC would kick the shit out of the majority of the brands on the left, the problem is it went up against the manufacturer of the fucking viper in the first round, which stupidly lost to the manufacturer of the fucking corvette. There are some close calls here, like Alfa v Lancia, and Peugeot v Saab.
>>20811965>muh bracket>tripfaggotYea fuckoff you dumb cunt
>>20811884I like my triumph, but it's not that nice. Ducati is typically better.
>>20812009I would like you to take a stroll through your local Junkyards GM section and take in the Oldsmobiles. Only someone who is really into classic American cars has any respect for olds. Olds was just GM's shitting grounds for YEARS. And when a shit manufacturer delegates its shit cars to one brand, you know it's shit.
>>20811975Is that what the kids are calling a bracket these days? Also it was 2013 at at that point Lexus was still boring as fuck and lagging behind the competition in the performance segment. >>20812028>newfag thinks I made it myself
>>20812033Olds concepts were amazing and record breaking and they were also GM's more experimental divsion with stuff they developed later being used on other brands. their engines, (when they worked) were pretty top tier i.e the quad4.
>>20811873>renault way above citroenFuck is wrong with you?
not ranked within the tiers
>>20812172Renault makes sports cars, citroen makes garbage.
>>20812172Because Twingo motherfuckerand I’m a burger
>>20811965Holy shit those top 4 are all trash, Nissan? Lmao how
>>20811873plz no hate
>>20812279>Liking AMC>Hating JeepThat doesn't even make sense. AMC MADE Jeep. Kaiser Jeep was cool, AMC Jeep was perfection on Earth. Chrysler Jeep was minor improvements and riding out the AMC wave. FCA Jeep is homosex.
>>20812226>>20812233Renault only makes the A110 you dumb fuck. Citroen doesn't make garbage either. They mostly make boring cars now but they made some good shit before.
>>20811965>MWLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA THERE IS NO ESCAPEEEEE
Bikes are for fags
Ya'll niggas don't know shit.
I'm tired of people thinking Lotus is anything but trash tier. The only reason they're not in F is because of F1 legacy.
>>20811877Cringed and Bluepilled
>>20811965/o/ was dumb then/o/ is dumb now
what brand is the red s logo with an le below it
>>20812279i can't tell if this is bait or you're a legit retard
>>20813807fairly accurate except lancia, have they even done/made anything noteworthy since the 1980's?
>>20812279>plz no hateno hate, just pity - you're retarded.
>>20813835It says on the website.
So it's official that /o/'s favourite brand is porsche right ?
>>20814691based and ferdinandpilled
>>20811873S - Suck dealers cockA - As you can see i smell my own fartsB - Better make payments in timeC - ChillD- Don't know any betterF - Fuck your prius
>>20814691i'd move saab to a tier and acura down to b tier but nice one
>>20811939>>20813807>>20816067>bmw in S tier
>>20816100t. nissan altima owner
>>20811965Where the hell is mazda ?
>>20811965>Datsun vs NissanTop kek
>>20814089Honda and Yamaha a little above the other Japanese brands, but other than that is pretty much it.
From the point of view of a performance driving enthusiast. Dead brands excluded. In b4 massive hate.Explaining the obvious controversial choices:Bugatti makes two jawdroppingly hideous tech demo one trick ponies. FFerrari have S tier in them but they're pretentious douche faggots who treat their customers like shit, so busted down to C tier.Fiat/Alfa/Abarth get busted down for consistently proving the memes about their quality right.Subaru gets D for turning the WRX/STI into a fat shell of its former self.
>>20816214mashallah brother bmw is truly the greatest
some of the choices you guys made make me glad none of you are mechanics
Think your real slick putting citreon in D tier huh? I'd advise you to MOVE THAT SHIT UP TO S TIER BEFORE I BEAT YOU TO THE GROUND. CACTUS NUMBER ONE CACTUS NUMBER ONE CACTUS NUMBER ONE
>>20816624cactus is the reason it's not in F tier
>>20811965back when /o/ was based
>>20816100>retarded weeb has retarded opinioncolor me surprised
>>20811965Sometimes I have flashbacks of this certain retard that argued that Datsun was better than Nissan, when we explained to him in all tones that they were the same cars with a different badge. He wouldn't budge.I'm still sort of mad about it. You got me anon, you fuck.
>>20811873that is a real shit tier list>audi anywhere but complete bottom>GM anywhere but complete bottom>honda anywhere lower than top two tiers
>>20811873shit busrider list.
>>20817541what is mazda doing in S I mean they have made like 2 noteworthy car models in their entire historyHow does that make em better than BMW or Mercedes
>>20817543mercedes is still peak german luxury but has gone downhill a bit.BMW is just a decent commuter landbarge.Mazda still makes good, solid cars all around. But you're right they propably belong in A tier.
>>20817541>mazda in S tier>tesla in F tierbased
>>20817549mazda hasn't produced anything interesting since the RX7 while merc AMG and BMW M keep producing new God machines every year including the best sports saloons, best performance coupes, best bikes, best hatchbacks, mazda isn't even comparable they're plain sporty fwd shitbox manufacturers on par with renault or citroen
>>20817634>mazda 6 mps>mazda 3 mps>rx8 >NDI guess you're right they belong in A tier.But BMW M are nice but not god machines. AMG is just retarded LMAO LETS PUT BIB ENGINE IN LUXO BARGE LMAO american tier low brow tuning house.
>>20817732BMW 1M, S1000RR and HP4 are utter God machines
>>20811873lmao, your opion is that of a 13 yr old that "likes cars"
>>20811873Objective as possible.Also you forgot Lamborghini.Based on how long they have been around, impact to motorsports, impact to general consumer cars/mass market, impact to exotic market, number of notable vehicles, involvement in industry innovation, were some factors I went with.
>>20818724>Objective as possible.Yeah no
>>20811873I don't like bikes
>>20818865Most accurate list yet.>>20818724>ford/honda Please stop pretending to be retarded.
>>20817732Nigga all of those cars you listed have better equivalents from other brands. Granted, I’m not talking about the price, just about the cars per se. If we’re talking about price, put a 3k civic with a few simple mods in S tier. It’s still a shit car though.I’m not saying Mazda is garbage. They have produced some good cars and deserve respect for keeping the rotary alive but they are normie tier at best and well below comparable brands.Pic is ranked inside the tiers from best to worst as well
>>20812279>Alfa Romeo>S tierAnon...
>>20818981don't try to argue with italian alFister romeo faggots
>>20811873honestly fuck whoever made that shit you're gonna include a bunch of stupid ass track toy companies and some performance shops that work with auto manufacturers and fucking leave out one of the most based nip companies? shameful
>>20818979>muh mazda a shit>audi not in bottom tiernigga audi is literally front wheel drive chinese clone of bmw. Audi can't do anything right except overcomplicate engineering and market it so retards buy it.>no jap cars in A tieryeah no confirmed for wehraboo shit taste.japs are only ones who manage to make proper affordable sportscars all the time. That focus on turning and driving rather than muh luxury and muh powarWithout japs the sportscars lineup would only have lotus doing something like that.
>>20819074>japs are only ones who manage to make proper affordable sportscars all the time.Because they only offer underpowered shit engines, rendering their ''sports cars'' slower than old base model BMWs.
Ford would've been lower if it didn't have the Ford GT 05'
>>20819074Everything you faggots are on about it affordability. Yes, other cars are more expensive. Yes, the value for money may be worse but guess fucking what? THEY‘RE BETTER CARS, FAG. Deal with it.Audi is shit indeed and makes boring ass fwd cars just like Mazda. The only difference is Mazda is better value but Audi is more luxurious. Still, both are shit, boring fwd crap.
>>20811884I like suzuki but they're not SHonda is high tierHarley F-
Aren't you forgetting someone?
>>20819295You mad son? The stench of cheeseburger and tears is literally oozing off your post.
>including AMC but not Mitsubishi
>>20819316I’ve never owned an american car.Your shit list is just the most retarded thing I’ve seen here all day.You’re either absolutely out of touch or a shill for a company that hasn’t produced anything noteworthy in years and never has produced something outstanding ever.Mazda isn’t the best brand ever just because you bought one as your first car for under 5k and have never driven anything else you utter fool.
>>20819393>Shityota first place>RR and Pagani in the same tier with AudiOh no son you messed up
>>20811873All im getting from this thread is that everyone in here is a Porscheboo.
>>20819422I look like a Porscheboo AND a weeaboo here even though Japan now makes just solid econoboxes and Porsche isn't as cool as it used to be.
>>20812172Top Gear is the only ressource this sub have to get its car culture and knowledge.
>>20811873Hennessey is not a manufacturer they are just stealing people money and building shitty turbo kits that don't make claimed power, neither is shelby
>>20811873Its true and you know it.
>>20818724>Based on how long they have been around, impact to motorsports, impact to general consumer cars/mass market, impact to exotic market, number of notable vehicles, involvement in industry innovation>Citroen in A>Peugeot in DYea, whatever you say my friend.Citroen hasn't made a sports model in years and they've been sucking Peugeot's cock for the last 20 years so they have some engines to place in their ugly pieces of shit.
>>20819877>Citroen hasn't made a sports model in yearsThey never wer in the sports car business, their contribution to the automotive world was technological advancment design and comfort for normal cars and high end gt cars.
>>20817541>VW in C tier>Audi in F tierwhat
>>20811873>no DaciaBegone, scum
>>20811965Still pissed about the final round shenanigans
>>20819015>>20818979>>20818865>>20819015>>20819282>>20819844>buggati is a good manufacturer Jesus how is this boared full of normalfags nowdays ? W16 is the shittiest engine ever made
>>20820733Yeah totally my non-normalfag redpilled super knowledgeable bro. That Bugatti W16? That one with the dry sump lubrication system from Formula 1? That one that is amazingly compact for what it is? Yeah mate! Total trash!That new Toyota 4 cylinder though, based on science we had 15 years ago? Wow what an engine right?Fuck off
>>20820841 2JZ could make 1500 hp with only 3L 6 cylinder and 2 turbosW16 makes the same output with 8L 16 cylinder 4 turbos toyota easily wins
>>20822193>hurr bugatti a shit bcuz high strung 2jz bro!!1!you need to be 18 to post here
>>208221932JZ will never make more than 600hp on stock internals fucking underage sperg
>>20812014You can't just call opinions you don't like reddit, that's not how intellectual conversations work
>>20819905>am I a joke to you?
>>20818724>objective as possible>Citroen ALMAO
>weeabos putting nipshit trash above BMW>amerifats putting GM anywhere but at the bottomtop kek
>>20822621bmw is mediocre.
>>20822637It's above average. Certainly not god tier, but it's better then your average econobox manufacturersFor me it'd be a B
>>20822637BMW makes more RWD sports coupes and sedans than any other brand out thereyou are just a poor and delusional weeabo
>>20822649b is fine they are decent driving eurobarges.>>20822652porsche, ferrari, lamborgini, paganiAlso bread on hood richfag turk. Lets see your 318 e46 diesel
>>20816100BMW bikes are godmode you dumb weeb fuck
>>20822664>porsche, ferrari, lamborgini, paganilol imagine thinking that boutique supercars are somewhat relevant to tje conversationfor 40 you can buy a 240i and that id a much better driver's car than anything nipshit>turkpostingthats a poor cope
>>20822664>>20822637weebs are deluded and retarded.20 year old base model non-M bimmers walk all over jap garbage around track.
>>20816361>From the point of view of a performance driving enthusiast>puts RR as a Byeah your opinion is worthless
>>20822735World leading luxury deserves recognition, plus they're faster than your shitbox while being nicer than your house.
>>20811873The Only reason GMC is up so high is because of the early 2000s
how could you all be so wrong
>>20811899>Tesla>above it's better american car brethren leemao
the correct list
the true list
>>20826067Based and koreanpilledT. Stinger owner
>>20811899>Nissan above D tierFuck me. Here's your (You)
>>20813807>bmw above porsche>>20822672>porsche>boutique supercardelusional mehmets