What killed it?
>>20686039People being lazy shits, doesn’t get simpler than that
>>20686039Advances in engineering.
everyone driving autos for the past 50 years
>>20686039Entitled, lazy, fun hating, baby boomers and women.
>>20686044wrong, this is /o/ garbage think. It was killed because the autos shift faster, are safer, and make the companies more money later in life. Has nothing to do with "muhhhhh lazzzyyy!!!!" The world didn't just magically get lazy overnight fucking retard. The autos just got better. They also meet emissions better (way more gears). So stop being a fucking god damn cock sucking retard, and use your brain.TL:DR>better>faster>more economic>more room for revenue
>>20686044If you're not running a carb you need to stfu. Do you run a hand crank and manual ignition timing too? Why not? Are you lazy?
Automatics have improved while manuals haven't. And there's been a steady decline in sales of manual shitboxes and expensive sports cars.
>>20686039auto for dailymiata for weekend + fun driving.
>>20686039Heavy shitty cars with tiny engines
>>20686084>If you're not running a carb you need to stfuI do. Though carbs aren't "Manual"> Do you run a hand crank and manual ignition timing too? Why not? Are you lazy?These are not comparable either. An electric starter vs hand crank compared to transmission would be closer to comparing a paddle shift with a clutch to a traditional manual.Autos are gay, they're worse at everything and don't know what the driver wants or needs at any moment.
>>20686039driving engagement and simplicity are the only advantages to a manual transmission. the average car buyer doesnt care about those things. end of.
>>20686065>he defends automaticsIt's time you leave this board
>>20686098How can you improve what's already been perfected?
>>20686065>auto is safer>gives ability for shit drivers to drive without worry>causes 90% increase in crashessafe indeed!
>>20686065>autos are safer!Why do autocucks always out themselves?
>>20686039Nothing. The vast majority of cars that you'd want a manual in are still available with one.
>>20686039Its a niche market, most car buyers aka normies would rather just drive an auto. >>20686294Manuals are fun, but not all cars make sense in manual, ie luxury sedans.>>20686330*citation needed* Like I said I enjoy driving a manual but you guys are acting like turboautists
>>20686044FPBP and dubs of truth confirms
The people who want them don't buy new cars.
>>20686039Euroshits and their stupid as fuck $300,000 sports cars with fancy double clutch autotragics
>>20686039progress. same thing that killed walking or riding horses
>>20686039Lack of coolness. Excess of gayness.
>>20686045Thisand demand, most people think driving is a chore
>>20686039Simple answer? Americans.
>>20686039the same reason why the affordable sportscar died. Most people would rather have autotragic crossovers and EV soimobiles because muh comfort and luxury.
If you want to know why manuals died just read the smug faggot responses from manualspergs ITT
>>20686062*In the US*
People in EU started buying more Automatics.
>>20686100There is no reason why it can’t be fun to drive your car all the time. Buying one car as a designated “fun” car and another as a designated “daily” car is onions and reddit
>>20686298This. You cant improve mechanical stuff without adding helping shit like electronics. Its perfect they way it is.
>>20686062>Lying on the internet
I reckon most cars in the EU will be automatic in the next 10 years.
>>20687120t. never sat in an uphill traffic jamUSE THEM BUS TOKENS, PARTNER!
Manual eurochad hereGood modern autos are fine. Most people who hate automatics think of the shitty old ones. But they have come a long way. Go drive a modern AT Porsche and see what I mean.
>>20686098Manuals can now rev match on their own. Manuals can still select any gear at any time
>>20686039Technology, simple as that. Paddle shifters are flat out better and manual is a drag in bumper to bumper. The only people who prefer manual are those who view it as some type of elitist thing they can use to look down on other drivers because they equate not preferring manual to not knowing how to drive it.Don't worry, in time they will be seen for the luddites they are and only low end manufacturers will target them, with maybe one or two niche manufacturers shitting out slightly nicer replica models. Manual transmission is to cars what lever action is to rifles - infererior in every way, but beloved because hipsters pine for a bygone era.
>>20687227T. Can't use the hand brakeT. Car didn't come with a hill holder like shit boxes from 30 years ago.
>>20686039Lmao, it's still well alive in Europe.
>>20687227Are you an american?>let out clutch and off brake until car stands still>add gas until car moves forwardSounds complicated for your small brain but in real life you don't even need to think about it
>>20687263europoors can't afford automatics
>leave /o/ for 5 years>come back>fags still sperging about the same shit
>>20687270but autotragic cars are cheaper than manual ones???????
>>20687290This, recently bought a new bmw 125i in a hurry because i really fucking needed a replacement daily driver quickly. From 2018-19 it only comes out with auto untill it will transition to fwd (kek) in 2020. There is a manual optional fitting but it costs like 2000€ on top of car retail price.Fuck that.
>>20686065>Shift fasterOh wow, now they can let their shitbox truly rip>Are saferHow come? They allow for less attention to be put on driving, since all you have to do is "press go pedal to go, press stop pedal to stop", you don't have to keep your mind on the traffic flow/your next action when driving>More economicIn what? Purchase price? Because a manual transmission is simpler and has less sensors than the simplest autoIn maintenance? Guess what, a manual transmission will have service intervals (read: change the fluid) every 50k miles or so (unless you're an absolute retard with the clutch). And if the few sensors it can have (reverse switch, neutral/gear indicator/speedometer) fail it's fucking nothing and you can drive just fine with it. An automatic will shit itself if it doesn't have the necessary inputs/data, or if a simple solenoid shits the bed (happened to a good friend of my dad, his RAV4 wouldn't engage 3rd/4th gear or something, was offered a complete brand new trans since the little solenoid wasn't available through Toyota, went through hell for weeks because mechanics at the local Toyota center are complete morons/wanted to scam him, and other places didn't have the necessary scan tools, then had to ask for the part and have it installed abroad)>Make the companies more money later in lifeThere ya go, that's the point (besides getting normies who see driving as divine punishment to buy their cars). It's more expensive to purchase, maintain, requires specific dealer-only tools and scanners, and is seen as even more esoteric and delicate than a normal transmissionLiving in a 3rd world country where every-fucking-body knows how to drive manual, the TV spots for cars with auto trans are clearly geared towards first-time female buyers and (in the case of pickups) old people with mobility problems (fucked up knees) or as a "luxury item" that their asphalt queen truck now offers
>>20686039Manuals arent dead, they just smell funny. Realistically, automatic transmissions are hard to beat when it comes to shift times, mindless operation, and overall efficiency for the everyday driver. Not to mention, manuals make it harder to implement modern features like start/stop, remote start, auto braking, adaptive cruise, etc. All of this adds up to make manual-equipped cars less fuel efficient than their automatic counterparts.
>>20687290Only in the US you clueless mutt
>what killed itWomen.
>>20687419Thats simply not true
Still great theft protection in burgerland
Auto is simply superior in every way, that being said, I'd still rather drive a manual.How hard is it for /o/ to say this? Why must you make up a bunch of excuses?
>>20686039For me personally shitty traffic.
>>20686039accessibility.learning manuals is difficult. it's an additional step that isn't required when an automatic is available. even as someone that loves manuals i can recognize their ease of use, especially during heavy traffic and when not on the open road. you start with fleet vehicles such as buses and trucks for which you need to hire people it's easier to find the employee you need when they dont need that additional skill. it trickles down to the mainstream from there. pair this with manuals now being surpassed in performance by automatics and a waning knowledge of how to even use manuals and there you go.tl:Dr >>20686044but without the negativity. people prefer simpler things. innovations are made to make a task simpler. manuals can be fun but they are not simple.
>>20687435Yes it isI'm in Germany and 99.99% of all cars are considerably cheaper with the base manual than AT, on average a couple k
legit reason:>people switched to automatic as soon as possible>people prefer automatic and stopped buying manual cars>car company stop making manuals the people have spoken, manual is for retards who like self inflicted pain
>>20687210>mfw read "Wanker-Automatik"
>>20686039automakers understanding performance sells cars better than dickswinging
>>20686039Lazy rich Boomer
>wahhhh muh uphill traffic! fuck manuals!feels good to have a modern car with uphill drive assist AND a manual
>>20687419in europe at car meets people literally check your liscence plate if you have a sportscar or flashy car to see if you haven't upbadged it or if its autotragic.You are considered disabled or a woman for driving auto.Auto supra goes for 10-13k depending on condition. Manual bad one is at least 18k. TT a80 manual is 40k. TTa80 auto is 25-30k
>>20686044this, also the proliferation of the automobile. too many people get cars these days, which leads to more traffic(where an auto may be more comfortable), and also many retards making market decisions and influencing car companies with it.
i live in LA, honestly i had stick shift and the traffic was just unbearable in peak traffic. After a 12hr work day you dont want to be shifting in bumper to bumper traffic from 1 to 2nd gear for an hour or more. automatics are just more convenient, stick is still fun on the weekends or for short amounts of time,but not for a daily
>>20687516Because that would mean wiping a layer of pretentiousness and condescension off their faces.
>>20687250>Manual transmission is to cars what lever action is to rifles - infererior in every way, but beloved because hipsters pine for a bygone era.let me know when your plastic AR-15 comes chambered in .45-70 you dumb nigger
>>20688710thats like 1/10 analogyBest would be Manual transmissions are to cars what cooking at home is to food.Its worse in every way takes more effort and on paper inferior to buying ready food, eating out or delivery.
>>20688719cooking at home is healthier and cheaper than all of those, and I say that as someone who eats a ton of premade food because I can barely cook.
>>20688719It's a perfect analogy you stupid nigger, lever action rifles are still popular and widely used because they offer "fuck this grizzly and the tree behind him" levels of firepower in an extremely compact and lightweight package. AR15s aren't chambered for the more archaic cartridges which can deal with big game. Autotragics will never offer the level of engagement that rowing through the gears yourself does.
>>20687210Sorry, I don't speak Turkish
auto is just easier, why wouldn't I use it?
>>20686039Texting and driving is way harder with a manual, so it operating the bloated infotainment console. Truth is most people would rather do anything than drive while in a car.
>>20687216Yup, most new cars over 35k€ are automatic already, and the price point is only gonna get lower
>>20687359>Oh wow, now they can let their shitbox truly ripOr be faster in their sports car>How come?You can keep both hands on the wheel, have better adaptive cruise control and automatic breaking won't ever stall the car.>In what?Better fuel economy
>>20688750Not really, put in 2nd or 3rd and you can drive around city while textingt. yuro who see texting people with manuals daily
>>20686039Heavy flywheels and clutch delay valves
>>20687244>blocks your path
>>20686849>t. amerimutt seething because snek got btfo
>>20688750I don't get these posts when automatics became common long before cell phone usage went up.Do you people just not understand that people don't give a fuck about manual? My dad is a boomer born in '54 and has been driving since the 70s. He hates using manual and I'm sure his story is common.
>>20688832>fastest RWD production car with three pedals and a number stick around the ring in two attempts with two different drivers on budget kumho tiresa generic coupe shell with a naturally aspirated truck engine manages to cost half as much as 95% of its competition while being objectively faster.
>>20688851the rad SR8 isn't a car nor is it street legal nor are there any actual production figures.>britbongs STILL can't build a decent engine so they had to weld two busa motors together
>>20688502>uphill drive assistwhat, a hand brake?
>>20688873the viper is awesome because it was the last true driver's car, not because it resembled a kart in any way. the SR8 on the other hand is a literal kart and it makes about as much sense as comparing this street legal formula ford to literally any CAR ever made.
>tfw accidentally summoned basedviet while trying to have some banter with a burgerFor fucks sake
im not from america but are there majority of automatic cars there?
>>20687227What's hard about that?
>>20688994Yes, the vast majority are automatic and it's hard to even buy a new car with a manual even if it's offered you have to special order it.
>>20689020thank god i live in mexico, manual cars are really cheap and i like them
>>20689034On the downside, you live in Mexico
>>20689034>thank god i live in mexicohttps://youtu.be/e1CP3e_9Fyc
>look outside at car just bought last week>still has a stick in the centerThe popularity of autos benefits stick drivers since its harder for dealers to sell manuals and their MSRP is usually way below what an auto would fetch.
>>20688994Probably 99% are automatic hereRarely do I ever see manuals. Even out here in the countryside where it would be enjoyable and fun with all the hills and turns Never owned one either but my motorcycles are so there’s that?
>>20686039>when your auto doesn't let you upshift
>>20689097Do you really think cars with backup cams lack rearview mirrors or are you larping as an idiot?
>>20689074Unless it's a car that's highly desirable in manual
>>20689046pretty good, everything is cheaper you can party everyday until 6 am not like americuks, we have white , brown black womenits perfect
>>20689233Veronica Moser. Use bing image search for the rest of the lewds.
>>20686039Rev hang will be the final nail in the coffin. I shouldn't have to shell out for a tune on a brand new car just to make it driveable.
>>20687419Only because manuals come on higher trim levels for certain cars. Manual is almost always cheaper on the same trim level.
>>20689098Stop shifting at 800 rpm
>>20689348Fuck you anon
>>20686065more economics?? if you have a 8-10 gear automatic maybe better? no the car just goes with gear you wantand no it not saver, hell no automatic drive are distracted easier by things like phones or other shit they fall asleep why more often at wheel then manuell driver automatic weigh more than manual carsalso more weight on the fornd axel in many cases and thats not good for rwd like the mustang>>20689075i bet most trucks arn not
>>20686039I did because I keep letting go of the clutch before the gear is completely engaged.
>>20689983Even 6 speed autos get better mpg than 6 speed manuals
>>20690180>drive only in 6th gear in manual>automatic has to use 5 lesser gearsI dunno man seems to me that manuel is pretty mpg efficient
>>20689196Mexican women aren't white.
easier to drive. especially in metro areas with a lot of traffic like the bay. also:>road head>smoking
>>20691874and that's a good thing
>>20688774>better fuel economy>piece of shit is constantly deciding what fucking gear it wants to be in
>>20691906Mexicans are just bootleg Spaniards.
>>20691906You could park a bus between those eyes.
>>20686039I only recently found out that the Vast majority of the US citizens drive Automatic. I am not surprised considering how stupid americans are. They also believe that it's like that for the rest of the world, which again, isn't surprising knowing how they all live in their own bubble.And yes, in Europe, only actual cripples drive Automatic, cripples and VERY old people.
>>20692173>in Europe, only actual cripples drive Automatic, cripples and VERY old peopleThat's not truet. european
>>20692181Romania isn't europe. In germany, I only found out what an Automatic was when I was 17 because everyone is driving a Manual, as they should.
>>20692193Not romanian. Most of new, more expensive cars here (35-40k) are automatic here.
>>20692173Americans can afford autos unlike europoors
>>20692389Afford as in owe to the bank $40K? 4 out of 5 US workers live from paycheck to paycheck. Don't kid yourself.
>>20692389>>20692463And btw, Manual cars are usually more expensive because they are more desired.
>>20692464Only on the secondary market. New they are always cheaper.
CVTsThey are better and you know it.
>>20692488I believe you but can you show me an example? (No US market)Can you find me, let's say, a New GT86 Manual that's cheaper than the Automatic?
>>20686045I suppose these days auto transmissions are more reliable, but every auto car I've owned has had a transmission problems. I'm done with this shit and getting a manual personally.But I think the biggest problem is just how driving isn't as important in our culture as it used to be. You don't "drive," anymore, everyone "commutes." A car is something that gets you from point A to point B. Because our culture has shunned it. I'm lucky enough that this place, Initial Dicks, and some friends have made me realize how much more car has to offer than to just commute, but people don't want any problems with their car. They want to get in, drive somewhere without a problem, and leaving. Not like they aren't justified, but because of our commuter mindset, traffic is always stressful. (Smart phones don't help) So, that's just how it works out.
>>20692558The Honda civic only comes in manual on its lower trims, higher trims are always automatic. There are a few exceptions like the civic si and type r which are more expensive but in manual. Most econoboxes follow this trend of cheaper models being manual and higher trims being automatic.
>>20692566Alright, but we are talking about 5% price difference, which nullifies this guys' point here. >>20692389 because he clearyl implied that Automatic cars are a luxury.
>>20686039Cant drive with your phone with a manual
>>20686039Automatics can get you killed.https://abc13.com/news/carjacker-kills-father-because-car-isnt-an-automatic-/1796915/
>>20688735Couple problems here:1.) .45-70 is an obsolete meme round that offers no benefit over newer, better performing, flatter shooting cartridges. 2.) AR pattern rifles are available in many of these chamberings, especially if you remember that the AR-10 is a thing and can accommodate much larger rounds. Even an AR-15 can at least accept .458 SOCOM or .50 Beowulf if you needed a fuckhuge bullet with lots of energy. If you went with an AR-10 there's massively superior options over anything you could get in a lever action.I stand by my original comparison. Lever action and manual transmission are both garbage for entry level hipsters who think it marks them as more skilled/refined when all it does is mark you as a retard that bought an inferior product.
>>20686039muricans for inventing and female market
>>20692623They're a luxury to europoors lmao
>>20686039I don't wanna feel like I'm jerking off my car
The fact that only poorfags and dying people like them is not in their favor.
Manual>limited by the ability of the driverAutomatic>limited by the scope of technologyAutomatics have been better for a while now, and will continue to get better. Manuals and their primitive human operation is childlike, inefficient, and has a foreseeable upper limit while Automatics have none of these problems.People that swear by manuals are literally only doing so because they are attempting to prove to their imaginary rivals that their cocks are indeed sufficient. Do not be bothered by these people, they are weak and can offer you nothing in life.
>>20692921>.45-70 is an obsolete meme round that offers no benefit over newer, better performing, flatter shooting cartridges.Like .444 Marlin? You may not like it, but big bore levergats will never be obsolete until someone finds a way to start flinging 300gr rounds out of an AR.https://youtu.be/ffDngrAe1Ww?t=17
>>20686065>boring>cost more moneyYour move, faggot.
>>20693716>until someone finds a way to start flinging 300gr rounds out of an ARThat's what .458 socom is you dumb nigger
>>20693764I meant 400gr rounds but you got my point. It's good news that we can match factory 300gr .45-70 in our AR15 by spending huge bucks on a new receiver and special snowflake ammo
>>20686298Reducing friction is still an issue in mechanical engineering.
>>20686039Yeah, thought I was fuckin dead did you?OP what you're actually asking is "what killed having fun with your car?"WOMEN DRIVERS,PURE AND SIMPLE>oh dis steerin too heavies, gib me power steer>dis cluth too hard, gib me autotragic>oops I selerated to hard, gib me traction control>oops can't into pumping brakes, gib me ABSEvery single piece of tech in a modern car that was manually operated in the 70's and 80's has been the result purely of driving sales numbers up of female buyers.tl:dr? split arses shouldn't drive.
>>20693458Everyone knows new autos are better than manuals performance and gas mileage wise, I drive manual because they’re fun and give you a more engaging driving experience. Both manual and auto elitists are fucking retards in their own rights though.
>>20693849A wild J-gate suddenly appearsYou're all fucked
>>20686321>>20686399>>20687266People who drive MT cars do it literally on "autopilot" so they don't even think of up/downshifting. You only think of the whole press clutch>upshift>release clutch when you're a novice.>>20687368>start/stopit's as easy as having a lever position switch and only stopping the engine when the lever is on N.>adaptive cruisePSA offers adaptive cruise in their MT cars as long as you're on 4th gear.>less fuel-efficientThat depends on the driver. ATs win only because their computers are designed to be efficient.
>>20693905>PSA offers adaptive cruise in their MT carsFord does too, at least in the Mustang>ATs win only because their computers are designed to be efficient.And they have more gears, which gives them greater ability to stay in optimal rpm range
>>20688838who doesn't hate a column switcher
>>20686039as soon as the mileage on an auto matched or bettered the mileage on a standard, the manual was relegated to a purely aesthetic choice
>>20692173>And yes, in Europe, only actual cripples drive Automatic, cripples and VERY old people.By that logic, Europe has had a steady rise in old people and cripples in the last few years. Before only 1 in 4 people were cripple or old. These days it's now 1 in 3 is cripple/old. In 5 years, the number of registered vehicles in Europe with automatic transmissions will have surpassed the manuals.
How hard is it to learn stick lads?
>>20694054I learned how to drive stick in a VW sandrail when I was like 12. It's easy.
>>20694054Once you figure out how to modulate the clutch it's pretty damn easy
>>20689139Like Peugeot/Citroen cars built before 2010. Their shitty "maintenance-free" automatic transmissions (AL4/4HP20) tend to fail before 100.000 km
>>20692564>auto transmissions are more reliableThey are if you check the ATF level and color every 20000 mi
>>20686039People only want to buy vehicles with remote start, adaptive cruise controller, backup assist, any other crutch they can use to prevent them from using their underdeveloped brain. A lot harder to implement with a manual. Corporations seeking to maximize profits and minimize investments; this is why niche markets are dying in pretty much every field. Shareholders only care about their stocks and try to prevent corps from seeking anything that is less than maximum possible revenue. Manual sales are probably less than 10% of a given cars sales so they don’t even waste the time, effort, or money. Yuppie marketing school fags have single handedly destroyed capitalism.
>>20688719quintessential burger post
>>20694207>manual sales are probably less than 10% of a given cars sales so they don’t even waste the time, effort, or money.Only in US
The Buggati Veyron was a car that metamorphosed hypercars forever. This is without a doubt the first mainstream automatic hypercar, and its transmission played a key role in gaining its iconic status. Rappers, celebrities, and Saudi oil princes could flaunt off their 10 million dollar car and be able to drive it, too. Before this, most exotic hypercars were exclusively M/T, which relegated their market share to a tiny niche of people who both had a disposable income and could drive stick. Don't believe me? Look at every rap music video before 2005, and notice how every car they flaunted was either a Cadillac Escalade, a Lincoln Navigator, or less occasionally a Hummer H2, all three of which were fairly expensive, automatic only status symbol cars. Ever since the Veyron set record sales and earned a place in popular culture, "Bugatti" has entered the dictionary of every rapper past, present, and future and namedropped all the time.
>>20689034ay ay ay ay canta y no llores
>>20694054Easy m8 don't worry about it
>>20686039SMG - If it's good enough for Formula 1, it's good enough for me.
>>20686065>They hated Jesus because He told them the truth.
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>>20686039general retardation / americans
>>20692173Imagine being proud of your transmission when you drive this
>>20692544But normies are too dumb to understand it, so we now have NotSoCVT.
>>20686039Lazy burgers who don't want to drive, just eat, eat and eat.
>>20694207>niche marketAlmost everyone in Europe drives manual, because we are not lazy, low iq, blobs of flesh.
>>20687227What is a handbrake?
>>20693839Mum taught me manual in 97jetta, no abs, no tc, just ps when I was 12.Love you Mum.
>>20688842A fucken miata with a truck engine.
>>20686039People who want manual now days are poorfags who can't afford new carsManufacturers don't care what people want on the used market
>>20694162>french shit>highly desirablelol
>>20688502>uphill drive assistjust dump that clutch and send it
>>20697551>>uphill drive assistThe handbrake?
>>20692544my fucking sentra transmission exploded and cost me $3700. nissan CVTs are flawed and they know it
>>20686294not the guy you are replying to, so take it as you may.hes right though. i fucking hate automatics but he is 100% correct. this whole circlejerk /o/ shit about MERIFATS CANT DRIVE STICK or LAZY FUCKS or CASUAL DRIVER SHIT is stupid and its false. people like you have taken the meme and ran with it thinking its actually true. its not.people who actually thing the memes are true, are newags. plain and simple.
>>20689196Then why does everyone want to escape?
>>20686065you type like a fucking faggot. them getting better only facilitated peoples laziness. hes still right you dumbfuck
>>20686084nice false equivalency you gay reductivist faggot
>>20696951Yeah I remember that Jetta, sorry for leaving those stains on the back seat, but hey your mum was a spitter and not a swallower, so not really my fault.
>>20688090t.cant drive stick."self inflected pain" lol what? how incompetent are you
>>20686039Ironically Europe's emission cuckery.
>>20686039>pic relatedMy Truck