What do you think about the Toyota gt86/Subaru brz?
>>20388977Slow, overpriced, more difficult to work on than i4, unimpressive, boring.
>>20388977The fact that it angers every benchracer and busrider from here to Timbuktu makes it an objectively good car>RENT FREE
>>20388977Just get a corolla
>>20389007>dies the second warranty expires
>>20389007this nigga a mouth-breather, dont listen to him
>>20388977It's a great car just overpriced
Motor is absolute fucking garbage. An NA 4 banger with TWO banks and TWO valve trains? WHAT THE FUCK?! They couldn't even put the turbo version of the SAME EXACT ENGINE in it? Why on earth anyone would buy one of these things over a 350Z is beyond me, and I cannot fucking stand 350's.
which one of you faggots is this
>>20389084he didnt even do it right damn
>>20388977Never driven one but they seem like god musheens if it wasn't for the engine. Lack of power or any other engine options, no torque until redline.
>>20388977I'd rather have pic related, even in the icy Midwest.
>>20389007those are fat af
>>20388977It's not a Miata.
>>20388977i think its a great car benchracers misunderstand.
>>20389007gives a reason if you dont want to be yet another basic bitch driving the same exact car everyone else is.
>>20388977Costs the same as pic related, how is it justifiable? Camaro turbo 4 and v6 both absolutely shit on the FA20 and the handling of the sixth gen Camaro is exceptional. The Camaro has more power, more torque, is faster, has better gas mileage, handles better, sounds better, has a nicer interior, less road noise, more storage and interior space, and obviously looks a lot better.
>>20388977it's comfy and cute and /o/ only hates it because they are too poor to afford new cars anywaybut it is a big wasted opportunity. Factory turbo would remove any possible complaints.
>>20389071Cheap stims, use speed if you're cool
>>20388977I thought about getting one around the time they debuted.it ticked a lot of boxes - rwd, light, manual and backseat (even if tiny)I would have had to wait some months before they hit show rooms, so I ended up getting a lightly used NC miata instead.All these years later I don't regret the decision, but I wish I had a coupe because getting a miata on a track is a nightmare. If it had a i4, even at similar power levels it'd be a near perfect car, maybe from another yamaha partnership. That said I'm still glad the 86 exists.
>>20389231>has more power, more torque, is fasterTrue>has better gas mileageDoubt>handles betterDoubt, it's heavier and bigger, but still handles good>sounds betterOnly the V6>has a nicer interior, less road noiseBoth are mediocre in that regard>more storageTrue>more interior spaceOnly in the front>looks a lot betterPre-19, subjective. 19+, objectively false
>>20389436>most basic bitch carThat'd be any crossover, base 320i, or an Ecoboost Mustang
>>20388977flaming dumpster bought by the most retarded people on earth.
>>20389424why do you bother listing your opinions when you dont even know facts. just by saying >doubt youre saying you dont know for sure. what a waste of a post, not true or even informative in the least.
>>20389485Good thing that you didn't waste a post, and instead corrected my false assumptions. Oh wait, you didn't, such an informative post.
>>20389468How can a normie EB Mustang be less basic than a BRZ which has 10 times smaller production numbers? Or any crossover with 400k units sold every year?
>>20389471That's a little rough.They are "fun" if you autocross it. The whole "BIG POWER STREET CAR" is a dumb meme and is justification for people to literally burn money.
>>20388977Potentially great car let down by a bad engine. Still good and I'd look at buying one but the powerplant is really disappointing, and it's not even about the power output. It has the same headline figures as the K20 in the EP3 and that's a fantastic engine, it's the power delivery that lets it down
>>20389433I've heard its pretty easy to get addicted to it. Not only the feeling, but the effect as well, because it seems to completely swell nasal passages when ceasing after extended periods of use. Have you experienced this?
>>20389634Can the engine not handle more power with mods? I thought that the whole point of that car was that its easy to mod
>>20389578my $5600 car has the same drivetrain layout, weighs almost a 1000 pounds less, has 150 more hp and handles just as good, if not better. it’s also 26 years old but that’s irrelevant when you are using “fun” as a measurement
>>20389736>its basically like turbocharging yourselfThis is unironically the funniest thing I have read all day
>>20388994This. >MUH 0-60
>>20389729>coping this hardpic or gtfo>weighs 1000 lbs lessthan what? a BRZ? Doubt.
>>20388994You mean 90% of the fags here?>Checked
I'm cross shopping it against a bmw m4 atm(cause I want tight handling and feels). Drove the m4 twice already and power delivery and handling is amazing compared to the older V8 version. I'm about to test drive a BRZ this weekend, but I have zero expectations from it.
>>20389974Why not look at an M2 or a Cayman? I like my BRZ, but I think you're going to be very disappointed in the power compared to an M4.
>>20390072Power isn't really a priority for me. I'm looking for /muhfeels/ and a m2 is currently 10k more than the m4 atm since I'm looking at used examples. As far as caymans go the used market is kind of dead atm where I live.That and I have a soft spot for the scion frs since it was the first car I've ever taken interest in before I knew anything about cars. Was a special moment as well because it was the first auto show my dad has ever brought me to on the first year it was released. You could even say it used to be my dream car.
Objectively a good car, I drive my buddy's and since he has headers and a tune it fixes the torque dip. The fact that everybody outside of /o/tists like it make it even better.
>>20388977Amazing car for having fun on the road.
>>20388984fpbpI dont understand why they could have just put a turbo i4 in it for fucks sake.
>>20388977No matter how hard /o/tists shit on it now in a couple of years it will become the mainstream tuner car.
>>20389722It's not the easiest engine to mod at all. Access is difficult and it runs quite high compression stock so it's a struggle to get big power out of compared to a K20 or turbocharged engines.It's easyish to get rid of the torque dip but beyond that it gets harder
>>20388977fun car for enjoying driving pleasure
Overpriced if you're buying it new.Getting a secondhand one isn't bad for a fun daily.
Paying that much money to be passed up by family cars......
>>20389729what magic car is this anon
>>20393481nice meme. you could say the same thing to boomers buying 100+k muscle cars at auctions
It takes every aspect of its inspirations.And does none of it particularly well.Very nice daily driver, but too expensive for what youre actually getting
>>20389729I have no idea what this car is but I'm guessing it's a modified japbox.
Once we start seeing more of these cars drop below $10k /o/ will sing a different tune about it.
Will be great shitboxes in 20 years
>>20388977It's too slow to be called a sportscar.
>>20393933It is a sports car not matter how upset it makes you feel.
>>20389231Go away boomer we don't want your faggot cars of yesteryear.
>>20390174I own an 86 and I love it, but you better believe that if I had porsche money I'd snag the cayman
>>20389231Im an adult sized male so the windshield is too small and I have to lean forward to see traffic lights. Brz has much better ergo for 6'+ males
>>20394449Fuck off lanklet
>>20393985Pokémon go fuck yourself, zoomer scum. You wouldn't be able to handle more than 199 hp anyway. Your anemic transgender legs are incapable of controlling a clutch and throttle.>dabs on you>flosses behind you>victory Royale, nothing personal
>>20394772>dabs AND flossesBloody hell calm down bro
>>20389055what tf is a nigga brah?
>>20389002>It is a corolla
>>20388977Stop posting this fucking thread every week.It's a car that looks decent that hides its imperfections like every other person that posts on this fucking board. Each and every time you post a stupid 86 thread it's so fucking obvious you're fishing for compliments with this car as if it were yourself.
>>20389084>those cringey weeb stickers>pulling that bumper cover over the curb
>>20395754Not since the 80s retard. There's a reason the SR5 coupe Corollas have the exact same look and RWD while modern ones arent anything like the 86 or BRZ.
>>20388977lol my friend let me drive his '18 brz and it was fun
>>20396637all of those tracks aren't even tight technical courses. if it was a tight technical course it would literally dominate m3's, s4's, STI's, 370z, anything below 50k$ really.The GT86 was designed to compete against the cayman. There's a reason why its called a poorman's porsche.
>>20396637>30k bucks hoonbox gets similar acceleration and lap times as cars in equal or higher price rangeswow, it's fucking nothing
You still doesn't understand that this car is successor to AE86. It is best at tight courses and touge, 200hp is more then enough for its size and weight, more then 250hp will cause disbalance only.The only modern car which is similar to GT86 is new Alpine