It's just not fair, bros.>live in best car culture state (California)>gas is expensive>meanwhile rural and suburban retards pay literally nothingWhy does this happen? why live?
>>20082159>self proclaimed greatness without realizing how shit where he lives is>really just an over populated shithole full of foreigners and PC culture>we have cheap gas, open roads and no emissions testingProbably because you're an idiot who has been tricked into thinking Cali is actually good.
>>20082159>California>Best (of anything at all)Nigga.
>>20082169>>20082183California is shit in most regards but he said car culture and they're best in the department hands down
>>20082159>best car culture>residents don't do everything they can to get rid of shitty emissions regulations
Imagine defining your life quality through whether or not gas is 50 cents more expensive, or priding yourself in living in an absolutely worthless backwater shithole just because it conveniences driving. Oh yeah, I'm sure Kentucky and Oklahoma are worth living in because muh cheap gas.
>>20082196CARB. These motherfuckers have led the charge in expensive emissions control, to the point that even if your exhaust is clean, you can fail the visual inspection because you have a mod that's not CARB approved.
>>20082159The frogs are trying to burn down france because of extra tax on gas and you are bitching about cheap US gas prices?
>>20082203>shitty emissions regulations
>>20082196>car culture and they're best in the department hands downNo sir. They have some nice roads and that is literally it. Everything else about CA sucks for cars, high gas prices, buttfuck retarded emissions standards, moronic hypefags with their edgy garbage or stance shit everywhere. Hell, even the nice roads aren't that nice anymore because more often than not they're chock full of tourist traffic and impossible to enjoy.T. visits family in california and doesn't even bother driving out there anymore because the past few times I did I didn't even get to enjoy the nice roads because of CHP and tourists
>>20082218>los-angeles-1954-smog-6.jpgWhen you build a megacity complete with sprawl in a valley and the air gets shitty it doesn't make the smog nazi emissions in the rest of the state not retarded
How does california have enough money to put a CHP car every 100 yards?
>>20082211It seems you can't see the forest for the trees. Your sick social posturing and lack of real world experience has led you to believe that California is the best at everything. You have a sense of regional pride that rivals Texans. The life experience you get outside of California is so much more relaxing and rewarding. The insane cost of living mixed with overpopulation is why so many people are fleeing to Colorado from that shitty state for example.
>>20082267They don't. The state budget is the laughing stock of the nation.CHP is probably the only part of the CA govt that breaks even because of the racket it is, they make a fuckton of revenue off of obscene emissions checkpoint tickets and speed traps on every road that looks like fun to drive
>>20082267>every 100 yardsJust imagine the number of unmarked vehicles you aren't counting.
>gas is expensiveit really isn't considering what it takes to get it out of the ground and into your tank.
>>20082285California is bad at a lot of things, but at least putting SOME effort into preserving its environment and air quality and ultimately the health of the people isn't one of them.
>>20082297>it really isn't considering what it takes to get it out of the ground and into your tank.>he doesn't realize that oil prices are set by a cartel which runs what is nearly a worldwide price fixing scheme>he doesn't realize that in places where gasoline is truly expensive it is almost always due to taxation
gas is cheaper than water, coca cola, milk, coffee, and beer.
>>20082214>>20082239>>20082203He said car culture. As in the culture of cars. It doesn't have anything to do with gas prices or emissions regulation enforcement.
>>20082348Ok so I guess you're redefining the word culture, because if the things that regulate your hobby don't affect its culture then you're not applying the definition of culture.
>>20082343Thank God I live in a country where basic healthy foods are affordable.
>>20082363I think he's confusing quantity with culture.There's a lot of people that like cars in Cali simply because there's a shit ton of people that live there. That doesn't mean there aren't enthusiasts in every city.
>>20082363A culture is the people, not the bodies ruling them. If someone was talking about Japanese or Mexican culture, their politics wouldn't be part of that. So defining car culture by the rules of the local government is equally as dumb
>>20082404Where are you getting those things for less than 2$ a gallon?
>>20082445Let's see. Last time I checked here in Germany bottled mineral water started at $0.55 a gallon, beer started at $2.50 a gallon, Coca-Cola was $2.85 a gallon and milk started at $3.00 a gallon. Meanwhile I filled up with diesel for $5.58 a gallon, all prices after taxes.
Gas in Chicago is still over $3.00 for regular
>>20082473He said under 2 tho
>>20082159>Californians ego tripping againEnjoy your punishment.
>>20082488I never said under 2 though, I only said affordable.
>>20082343>He can't buy five gallons of purified water for a dollar>He can't buy a gallon of coke for two dollars>He can't buy a gallon of milk for a dollar 75.What commie hell hole do you live in?t. Desertfag.
>>20082473damn living in germany must be hell if you have to pay those prices
>>20082505t. Poland or Mexico or someplace where you pay half as much and earn quarter as much as us?
>>20082503How is it more affordable if it's more expensive?
>>20082239This is 100 percent true.t. truckerfag who quit delivering to Commiefornia>best car culture>draconian 55mph speed limit for trucks and towing vehicles>CARBYou guys have some pretty roads though, pic related OC
>>20082522It's affordable period, and in comparison it's far more affordable than fuel.
>California car culture
>>20082159Because as a whole and as individuals you are staggeringly retarded with respect to government. You vote ask for and vote for ever expanding government that drowns you in taxes and nanny-states the fuck out of you. Then after doing that for decades, you start to flee your self-created hell hole and move to other perfectly fine states and vote in the same policies that wrecked your own state. Even for Americans, you lack self awareness. You are loathed.
>>20082183best job market
>>20082666>get paid six figures>can't afford to liveBest for who, Satan?
>>20082159That's what u get for not living in America
>>20082613Not gonna lie, that Liam Nissan made me laugh.
>>20082670nothing a couple of housemates can't fix
>>20082159the state of self loathing nu-males has the best car culture? doubt.
>>20082653Democracy is a meme anyway, we need National Socialism
>>20082666You're thinking of Texas bud
>>20082343water costs like 0.1c per liter
>>20082285Texas is actually good tho, in most cases it deserves pride. Harris country emissions and 2 plate laws are annoying but I don't follow either and haven't had a problem in more than 2 years
>>20082511Idk about national prices, but milk in my part of the US is 1.88/gal. Coke is like 2.20/gal. And i probably get to keep more of my money than you after taxes
>be leaf>better car laws than america (we get to import 15 year old cars instead of 25 years old and we didnt have a cash4clunkers)>decent gas prices>no cops anywhere except major cities>great roads far away from major cities with 0 traffic and 0 cops>emission testing will soon no longer be required by lawBesides all the chinks, indians and a*abs, canada is a pretty good place to live for an aut/o/ enthusiast.
>buying Coca Cola in Gallonsnever change, America.
>>20082691>TexasYou mean New California?
>>20082159>best car cultureYou mean Texas?
>>20082722>hot as hell>filled with spics>being invaded en masse by liberalsI see your point
>>20082720No one buys soda in gallons, anon. Might want to redo your math.
>>20082310>run by a cartel>a publicly traded commodityLOL
>>20082733Do you not know what OPEC is?
>>20082740You're probably talking to a zoomer.
>>20082740They don't RUN oil. They try to keep it viable. They are literally just oil hype men. The market will always drive the price. OPEC says >cut production to raise pricesCountries that produce oil>no thanks, go fuck yourselfOPEC responds>...but.... Okay....It is well known OPEC can only TEMPORARILY effect pricing by announcing shit. But those are market forces causing the price changes, not OPEC themselves.
ARE U GUYS KIDDING MEEE WE ARE PAYING 1$ PER LITRE IN EUROPE MOTHER NIGGERS DIE U PIECE OF SHITS ; (
>>20082733>he thinks OPEC isn't a cartel
>>20082927There are OPEC shills on this site lately to defend the horse fucking crown prince of the sauds in an attempt to legitimize these pathetic sand people who ought to give us oil for $0.00, lest they be glassed to oblivion. FUCK sandniggers.
>>20082722Arizona is being invaded aswell. The last time we elected a democrat for Senate was 1988 but somehow a Democrat won.
>>20082159You do realise all the tax payers are bailing for a reason right? All that car culture is probably going to have moved out of the state in a decade.
>>20082681Lol get fucked.
>>20082159>It's just not fair, bros.It's fair when so many people live there for the costly benefits. The western coast states of California and Washington have oil refineries, but their gasoline prices remain above $3 per gallon.This week:Seattle gasoline: approx $3.14 / gallonSeattle Diet Coke: approx $2 / gallon (sale)Seattle diet cola: approx $1.60 / gallon (normal)Seattle Milk: under $3 / gallonSeattle filtered water: $1.75 / 5 gallonsSeattle sugary soda pop: add approx $1.18 per 2 liter bottle of sugary drink tax. Revenue has been used for education, remedial education, and social welfare services. After Seattle soda tax, Costco says case of Gatorade costs $26.33 instead of $15.99. Current Seattle mayor Durkin has already diverted a large amount of soda tax revenue into homeless services (despite the original education reason for the tax).https://www.marketwatch.com/story/2633-instead-of-1599-a-case-costco-shows-seattle-customers-just-how-much-soda-tax-costs-them-2018-01-10
>>20082681>YOU MUST LIVE LIKE SARDINES CRAMMED INTO SOVIET STYLE APPARTMNETS!!!!>WHAT ARE YOU OPPOSED TO CAPITALISM? BE GRATEFUL AND GIVE ME $600 TOWARD THE $3000 RENT YOUR OTHER 15 ROOOMATES HAVE ALREADY PAID REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>20083143In college I shared a master bedroom in a 6000sqft house, not fancy living but it was fairly comfortable.
>>20083143>Consenting to 3000 dollar rent>Considering living with 15 other people>Exposing how fucking retarded you are with money.Oh look, it's the common urban retard with money.
>>20082159>>live in best car culture state (California)HAHAHAHAHAHAHA No. You got spics trying to lowball on salvage, smog test, and people over-appreciating on Frankensteined classic cars. People here can't drive for shit and people with good shit don't want to drive.t. Californian
>>20084391>You got spics trying to lowball on salvageThey hit and run as a cultural norm. That's where expenses pile up for everyone on the insurance rates as the insurance companies have to make up for it.
Is there a state with the nice weather and great roads like California, except without the retarded regulations, cops and traffic?
>>20084443The answer is you never lived here and you should never live here.
>>20084610Does California not have ridiculous taxes and regulations compared to the rest of the US? I think you might be the only one who thinks so.
>>20084659>Does California not have ridiculous taxesHow else to pay for california's infamously huge amount of social welfare payouts? A significant amount of the population (illegals) never really contributed to the tax revenues. But they're here and were granted amnesty, thus they were entitled to draw on public funds and social medicine for their retirements or chronic illnesses.
>>20083053>Seattle Diet Coke: approx $2 / gallon (sale)>Seattle diet cola: approx $1.60 / gallon (normal)Who the fuck buys soda by the gallon. It's 1, 1.5. and 2 liters or 20 oz.
>>20082473>$3 for a gallon of milkFuck that gay country, no amount of autobahn is worth this
>>20082297If you were extracting a gallon it would seem like a lot of expense for that gallon.They extract hundreds of millions of barrels
Minnesota is pretty cool. Okay on taxes, make normal amounts of money, and plenty of hilly and curvy backroads if you need twisties. Gravel roads are more fun though.I guess milk and gas are cheap, no idea on coke, I don’t buy it. Our liquor laws suck, but the tax rate is pretty normal at a hair under 10%>>20082718Go ahead and tell me what a case of Busch costs in your county.
>>20085141Also we banned red light cameras and speed cameras due to massive public disapproval
>>20082986>implying Flake and McCain were anything more that Democrats with a poorly taped on elephant trunkSinema made Flake look like the ball-less faggot that he is, and the GOP was too retarded to primary him. You were stuck with a straight D-voting cocksucker either way. At least Lindsay Graham grew his spine back after McCain died.
>>20083281You shared a bedroom as an adult with somebody you weren't fucking.
>>20085094>Who the fuck buys soda by the gallon.It was equivalenced into gallons so that other people could compare the price of a gallon of gas conveniently.
>>20082302>Preserving its environmentHow's that forest fire treating you?
>>20082689We need an ancap autocracy you fuckwit>national socialismgo back to /pol/
>>20085524>be you>libcuck>accidentally click 4chan on hotbar instead of reddit>shitpost here anywayend it faggot
The amount of COPE from flyover state retards ITT
>>20085982They should put them in chronological order>No Parking 4am 7am>No Parking Sat Sun 12am-7am>4hr parking 10am-2pm Mon-Thurs>2hr parking 6pm-10pm Mon Thurs 6pm-12am Fri-Sat
>>20082159visit NL. these are €/L ...
>>20086005>They should put them in chronological orderSlow moving public mexican LA city employees.And no, I've seen them doing things but "slowly". It's like they don't want the system to know that employees can do more and thus have fewer workers hired. Their speed would never cut it in private enterprise.
>>20086179every goverment nigger spic employee is slow moving. they get paid by the hour not by the task so they will spread out a 2 hour job into 8 hours
>>20082986>stop electing democrats rreeeeee this was supposed to be the maga uprising!!
>>20082169>tricked into thinking Cali is actually good.Cali WAS good.But over the past few decades of illegal immigrants and legal mexican immigrants almost all of whom have family members that are employed by the government, or suck welfare dollars, or are involved in corruption and crime, city and state budgets got weighed down these huge excessive costs. It really changed the state a lot. It's not like how it was during my childhood which I remember clearly.
>>20082159its because you live in california you fucking massive retard. Move to another city with great car culture like Atlanta or Detroit
>>20086339when was the last time cali was good? 90? 80s?
>>20082653Never has a bigger truth been spoken
>>20082718Honestly speaking, you can't be regarded seriously as an auto enthusiast country if you have no local manufacturers of native origin. This means that only germany, clapistan, japan, France, Italy and korea meet this criteria.from what Ive seen online, all the mass producing automakers in your country are either burger or Japanese brands.
>>20082691it fuckin would be buc ee's
>>20086348>Atlanta or Detroitnig cities. that's going to be a yikes from me.
>>20086362Maybe their goal is to repopulate the USA as the new Mexico? If latinos continue their immigration, huge birth rate at young ages, and continue to have large families, they will become the majority ethnic in the USA. That's a long time in the future, but it does show a trend.
>>20087218>Maybe their goal is to repopulate the USA as the new Mexico?Well, don't they call themselves La Raza (The Race)? If whites called themselves La Raza, the latinos would be up in arms about how racist that was.
>>20086388Sweden has Volvo too
>>20084659>Does California not have ridiculous taxes and regulations compared to the rest of the US?It has a huge non-productive population which can only be supported by a ton of laws created just to support them.
>>20082196Texas is probably the best car culture
>>20089144in b4 someone claims they're Chinese because that's where the funding comes from
>>20090590The v90 is still made in Torslanda so more money for them the better
>>20082159California has good driving conditions, a big enthusiast scene, and good roads/tracks to drive if you seek them out. Too bad all that shit gets negated by the skyhigh prices and taxes on gas, traffic, shit drivers, and LEOs that will use every excuse to buttfuck you for some "revenue. If your car is modded, they will have you take the fucker apart on the side of the road if you happen to get stopped by Officer Dick.
>>20086353I've lived here my whole life and be generous in saying early 2000s before we really felt the brunt of all the liberal insanity.
>>20082196Sorry mate but Texas is superior in everything but scenery.
>>20082696>water costs like 0.1c per literMost of the bottled water on my supermarket shelves costs more per ounce than gasoline though. And a few of the bottled waters costs more than microbrewery beers too.
>american complains about expensive gasI have absolutely no sympathy for you.
>>20086191City and country governments are full of cronyism and nepotism. One way to maximize retirement profits at taxpayer expense is to work at one government group (county or city) for the requisite number of years for full vesting and full base retirement pay. Then use contacts in another city or county government to move to a position there. That counts as a SEPARATE job with separate new retirement plan. So upon true retirement, the person gets to multiple dip from two different retirement plans each of which has full benefits. With the overlapping coverage on medical, the costs are even lower than if the person stayed with just one employer for the same number of years.
>>20082159Where is this I pay 2.74 for gas and 3.26 for diesel.
>>20082159Nibba we pay roughly that amount in euro per liter here.
>>20082159California isn’t the greatest. It’s a liberal shithole that taxes it’s citizens to death. I genuinely don’t know how people stand living here without a relatively high paying job. Housing is fucking ridiculous, gas is ridiculous, vehicle regulations and registration and smog are a horseshit system. Why the fuck should the next owner of a vehicle be penalized for the laziness of the previous owner not renewing the registration?>t. lives in San Diego, and just paid $335 in back fees for registering my $300 Honda Civic, on top of a $90 smog process because some higher power deemed it necessary for the car to have to go strictly to a STAR certified smog checkpointThank fuck my wife is in the Military and collects $2400/month in housing allowance, and I got lucky enough to be hired on as a Contractor with the Marine Corps. I 1000% wouldn’t fucking live here if not for her being stationed here.
>>20093278Yes, but Americans in general hate taxes and we like that we aren't taxed into oblivion like Europe. That California is going the route of insane taxes irritates the rest of the States who don't want that shit here.
>>20093739>California is going the route of insane taxes irritates the rest of the States who don't want that shitUnlike the USA federal government that avoids raising taxes by having more deficit spending, the USA states cannot have deficit spending. So they actually do need to raise taxes if they keep on spending money on social welfare causes.
I'm a california anon. Will suck dick for lodging outside of this state. Someone please help me.
australian who lives in california here.this state probably could have been the greatest american state had it not been overrun with fucking beaners and socialists. the only upside to all these mexicans is that they create ways to get around all the retarded smog shit. want a car to pass smog regardless of what you've done to it? that'll be $160 amigo. but seriously fuck mexicans and fuck the cali state government for what they have done to the fruitbowl of america
>>20093284Also sd .mil fag.What part you live in? East county best county.
>>20096487I wish the Alaskan Russians had settled it and drove off everyone else before the US claimed it. Imagine a Russian-dominated Cali
California retards literally voted to raise gas tax and car registration because they are so fucking stupid. There is no hope.
>>20096448No. Fix your shit.
>>20096530Central, La Mesa area
>florida>gas is $2.29 and falling 3 cents everyday
>>20096546>before the US claimed it.The US recognized Russia's claim and purchased it. Russia would not have sold but it desperately needed the money due to wars and strife.
>>20082159>bong petrol is down 10p since 2 weeks agowe might even get back to last december pricing + inflation
>>20096882>we might even get back to last december pricingNot in the sanctuary west coast states. They need their tax revenue and falling prices means less taxes to pay for all those expensive gimmiedats.
>>20082169cali is shit if u r a lazy pleb normie.. but if u r willing to actually work and have a skillset u can make bank even in a medium sized community.. I live in Bakersfield and make 100k by working maintenance at a cogen plant.. I cant imagine being so poor that I'd bitch about an extra 5$ per fillup.. lol
>>20082701Would agree here, I'm enjoying my $400 a month all bills paid apartment, $1.80 gasoline, and my comfy factory job working on heavy equipment making $25 an hour