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https://www.mintpressnews.com/hong-kong-protest-united-states-destabilize-china/261712/

>A closer look actually gives us a clear answer — that the West has more to do with this movement than it would like us to know. It’s the ugly face of Washington’s long-standing foreign policy directed at destabilizing one of its long-standing economic foes: China.

>Gone are the days where the CIA would directly overthrow foreign governments it didn’t like, such as Iran in 1953 or Brazil in 1964.

>Today regime change is achieved through front organizations like the National Endowment for Democracy, or NED, that influences thought and culture through covert means.

>Washington uses the NED as a “soft power” tool to influence and interfere in the politics and society of foreign countries in order to bring about governments that are conducive to the interests of big business. The NED does this under the guise of being a charitable organization promoting democracy and human rights.

>The idea is to create a buffer, 3rd-party organization to distance the U.S. government from funding political parties and groups and organizing regime-change operations.

>The NED was founded in 1983, following a series of scandals that exposed the CIA’s blood-soaked covert actions against foreign governments that resisted U.S. economic and political bullying.

>In 1986, NED President Carl Gershman told the New York Times, “It would be terrible for democratic groups around the world to be seen as subsidized by the CIA. We saw that in the Sixties, and that’s why it has been discontinued.”

>One of the NED’s founders, Allen Weinstein, was more blunt. He told the Washington Post, “A lot of what we do today was done covertly 25 years ago by the CIA.”

>In recent years, the NED has trained, supported and funded demonstrations and regime-change ops in Venezuela, Ukraine and Nicaragua, designed to look like grassroots uprisings.
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>>458532
At some point it’s just survival of the fittest when it comes to national politics. The strong eat the weak. Always has been and always will be no matter how self righteous either side wants to pretend.
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US and their shills tried to goad China into doing a new Tiananmen Square with the extradition bill but it didn't work. The original plan was to have the Chinese military move in, fuck the place up and then have the US and UK condemn the act to deligitimize the PRC and attempt to set up a "safe zone" on the peninsula to get their assets out and use it for future operations.

The PRC would suffer humiliation from this and possibly further internal strife leading to more hawkish factions of the party to want to retaliate, which would be viewed on the world stage as China being the instigator of the war. China would then be economically isolated and its rise blunted, giving the West more time to stay at the top of the world stage.

Now that all that's been flushed down the drain, the remaining protester's spectacles for Western cameras seem less grand, and the CIA will be getting out important assets while leaving the rest to their fates in the eventual cleanup.
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https://youtu.be/nqspDqEkOAE
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>>458649
Is that the average /pol/lack, some highschool dropout? Sad.

Actual videos of what's happening on the ground in Hong Kong

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMcqOWm5fqo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-59A_0M8vqI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtdiVla_mTA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BztiwW-2pTE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iHTafIyrWc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsKPQHuSpKA

Somehow this is peaceful protesting and Antifa are terrorists.
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>>458649

is he high or something?
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>>458662
>Actual videos of what's happening on the ground in Hong Kong

Weird. I guess the communists and I can at least agree that anarchists are shit. I wonder if video of antifa flying red banners in the US annoys Chinese communists as much as seeing Hong Kong rioters flying US flags bothers me. Smashing windows, lighting trashcans on fire, and throwing rocks at police is for shitters.
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>>458712
>I wonder if video of antifa flying red banners in the US annoys Chinese communists as much as seeing Hong Kong rioters flying US flags bothers me.
Why would it? Whites are noisy, emotional and undignified by nature. Nobody expects them to understand communism. Or civilization in general. They're like monkeys and play with red flags like monkeys. Only a fool gets angry about playing monkeys on the other side of the planet.
What's much more worrying is that some Chinese people in Hong Kong are led astray by the empty promises of soulless American consumerist capitalism. A degeneracy that only leads to vices like addiction, obesity, violence and religion.
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>>458741
The Hong Konger would rather one day of 'soulless American' capitalism over more Communist influence. They've had that for 20 years and they have had enough.
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>>458742
When did they appoint you as their speaker? Oh right, they didn't. Go back to r*ddit and spout your braindead CIA propaganda there.
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>>458712
Some guys in black and red yelling at alt-righters on a suburb street corner hardly compares to the intentional destruction, arson, vandalism and violent attacks you see from the "peaceful" protesters in Hong Kong.
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>>458742
If they don't like it they should leave.
Hong Kong will be fully integrated into the PRC by 2047, there's no stopping it.
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>>458751
A few old Imperialists in the Tory Party still believe they could get their former drug pusher colony back if they only "freedumb&mocracy" hard enough. They hold regular official networking events where separatists and other potential terrorists from Hong Kong can hold speeches and find slightly less official support and sponsorship from the British government and secret service. All under the guise of "democracy movement".
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>>458532
Wow, that website sure has some interesting articles about how the jews are behind major events.
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>>458746
Oh please. You probably go shill for CCP on reddit too. I am not speaking on behalf of anyone I am telling you what many Hing Kongers think.

>>458750
After months of getting beaten up by cops and getting shit and China cockblocking their political development it is to be expected.

>>458753
Only very few HK want to be part of Britain but thanks to China many more Hong Kongers do not want to stay under CCP rule.
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>>458765
A majority of hong kongers are against the protest. There's something wrong with you when you start waving imperialist flags everywhere begging to be invaded.
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Imagine being a self-hating cuckold waving American flags and parading signs asking daddy Trump to "liberate" your asshole.
Do these people have no self-respect?
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>>458765
>You probably go shill for CCP on reddit too.

I don't shill for the CCP. Take your meds. Reddit downvotes anything into oblivion that doesn't support the US-regimes official "bogeyman of the week ebil!" narrative. This week it's "Gyna". No point in trying to reason with those morons. Half of them are government-funded bots anyway.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2011/mar/17/us-spy-operation-social-networks
The other half are intellectual bottom feeders who read Reddit comments for entertainment.

>I am not speaking on behalf of anyone I am telling you what many Hing Kongers think.

Come on, you don't even speak the language. You just mindlessly regurgitate what Reddit and CNN tell you to think about the people of Hong Kong. Get real, you're a tool. You know nothing about Hong Kong. You simply repeat what the talking heads on your video screen said to you.
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>>458662
>>458741


Make it less obvious, commieshill
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>>458803
Didn't know posting videos of the rioting going on in Hong Kong made someone a shill, CIAnon.
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>>458741
>Whites are noisy, emotional and undignified by nature. Nobody expects them to understand communism.
Creates and estblishes the concepts and practices of communism as well as well as pretty much every other modern form of governance. Did they teach you Marx and Lenin Were actually chinks too in Chongqing?
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>>458927
wumao
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>>458927
>>458773
>>458772
>>458769
>>458753
>>458751
>>458750
>>458746
>>458741
>>458662
>>458613
>>458532

Extra social credit for every post made
Well done Dongdong, you're now good enough to...take a train!
Thank god wonderful Xi will allow you to travel if you're enough of a good boy
Keep posting and you'll be allowed to use public swimming pools!
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>>458934
You faggots consider Jews (Marx) and Slavs (Lenin) white when convenient and subhumans undermining "Whites" when not. Very interesting.
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>>458943
You're neither clever nor funny
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>>458970
*crever
*reether
Not rary impressive
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>>458981
you sir are both crever and funny
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>>458970
CIA shills are not paid for being clever or funny, they're paid for flooding non-approved political debates with retarded shit until sensible discussion becomes impossible. Half-automatic noise generators.
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>>458994
>flooding non-approved political debates with retarded shit until sensible discussion becomes impossible
i don't think you need the CIA for that
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>>458994

Sure. I accept that. But are you under the impression that the leftist troublemakers in streets of the US aren't supported and encouraged from abroad? It's just part of the game, Anon. Did Russia interfere with our elections? Of course they did. Did we support every former Soviet satellite to turn against the Russian Federation and move toward the West? Of course we did. Are the Chinese using predatory money lending to sink their claws into developing nations to exploit them? Of course they are. Did they learn it from the West? Of course they did. Do the Chinese contribute cash to radical Black Bloc organizers in the US? Of course they do. Is the CIA secretly supporting Hong Kong protesters to annoy the PRC? Why wouldn't they be? Pointing out the obvious and acting aggrieved by what every nation who can does is pointless. At least the major states aren't all in a legit shooting war right now. Be happy about that, at least.
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>>459010
I have rarely seen any actual leftist protest, all there are is liberals fighting for liberal changes. go find me a source anywhere saying china is funneling millions into "leftist" protests
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>>459010
>Did Russia interfere with our elections? Of course they did.

why? what the fuck for? Russians are officially declared as an enemy of the state. even fucking pentagon names them as main enemy.
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>>458937
Cold hard video facts and still trying to cope....hurry up and KYS
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>>459010
Nice deflection, retard.
Who is your handler?
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Today's actually peaceful standoff between pro and anti PRC protesters.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yuVL3BSwXA

You could tell which side is going to be shown in Western media by the amount of cameras pointing their way.
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>>459021
Simply to put the worst possible choice on the throne. The US run on a highly autocratic system, their president can do whatever the fuck he wants. The American rubber stamp parliament is guaranteed to approve. Give the position to a retard and they are paralyzed in internal strife over his brain farts for the next four years. Trump delivered more than that, he mindlessly started a suicidal trade war that even the radical leftists would have been hesitant to put their name on.

Trump wasn't the only acceptable option, but he was the best. Sanders, an economically illiterate dogmatist, would certainly have done his share of damage too. But his problem is that he's too sane to keep talking when all his advisors tell him to stfu. Trump doesn't have that issue.
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>>459010
Maybe these people do accept some US aid but consider this. Why do these citizens hate China so much they consider the 'US black hand' a better alternative? Really makes you think.
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>>458769
>majority of Hong Kongers
>"5 million stayed at home when 2 million went out to protest. Therefore that means 5 MILLION people are against the protests.
Okay.
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>>459351
Why did some dissidents from the US and USSR defect to the other only to end up going back to their original side? The grass always seems greener on the other side. In a fictional universe where the US annexed HK, the residents might learn that being a US colony wasn't all it's cracked up to be.
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>>459352
There have never been 2 million. That crowd size has been massively exaggerated by organizers and western propaganda, would require a crowd density of almost 10 persons per m2 to fit into the area. Neutral estimates from police and Reuters came to a count of circa 250k.
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>>459419
>In a fictional universe where the US annexed HK, the residents might learn that being a US colony wasn't all it's cracked up to be.
We've all seen how the US handle their colony on Puerto Rico.
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I've lived in HK 13 years and I can tell you HK people HATE the mainland. 8 or so years ago the quota system of mainland visitors in HK was abandoned and they swarmed in like filthy savages. Shitting on trains, pissing in roadside bins.

You didn't even need no stinking social creit score to get in. They let 'em spew in.
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Population 7 million.

Who wants control of all that sweet, sweet TAX $$$? Who wants them plantation bovines??

Who wants it more!!!!!!!????????
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>>459205
>The American rubber stamp parliament is guaranteed to approve
Lmao
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>>459535
America or China?

Those are your options. No, you don't get to remain sovereign, you're sitting right next to fucking China. So pick one.
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>>459458
America won Puerto Rico as war spoils in the Spanish-American War of 1898. It was never a "colony".
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>>459570
Colony swap from one empire to another. In practice PR is treated as a colony to be exploited by the mainland despite its nominal status as a Commonwealth which was only done to get around UN definitions.
You could look at the Philippines under US rule for another example of the kind of freedoms you get for being their puppet.
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>>459535
You've obviously never lived in a real democracy. Only in the fake parliaments of one- and two-party dictatorships like China, the US or the UK can such a retard survive in office for more than a few weeks.
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>>459570
It has always been a colony. First under Spanish rule, then under US rule. The Americans ruthlessly exploit Puerto Rico, leave the natives so poor that they can't even afford most basic infrastructure, like an energy grid or clean water.
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>>459205
>The American rubber stamp parliament is guaranteed to approve.
Pffffffhahahahahahahahahahaa
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>>459675
>*retard noises*
Impeachment any time now.
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>>459205
I don't know what's more funny, the fact you call Congress parliament (functionally different, parliamentary systems typically have the executive derived from the legislature, while presidential systems have separate executive and legislative branches) or think Congress is always cooperative with the executive branch as some sort of subservient branch of government. Even last term, when one party controlled both chambers of Congress and the presidency, they still had hangups over key issues such as the repeal and replacement of Obamacare, and now with one chamber under control of a different party things like the budget become massively contentious to the point of government shutdown. This is hardly a "rubber stamp" legislature.

Further, if it was a rubber stamp then the paralyzing internal strife you mention later in your post wouldn't happen because they'd just approve of whatever insanity the executive comes up with. The fact there's continuous legislative resistance disproves your original autocratic claim, in essence your post disproves itself.

You are right, however, that Trump was the most damaging choice, just wrong in your characterization of the American political system.

>>459666
>two-party dictatorship
I think the current two-party system is shit, but it hardly qualifies as a dictatorship. One party would have to be a totally powerless false-choice (controlled opposition) for a two-party system to be a dictatorship, and at that point it's by definition a one-party system because the opposition party is not viable.

>>459683
>they don't throw out the President
>that means they just approve everything he does!
Impeachment is a serious deal that backfires as often as it works. If it was a regular occurrence we'd have a lot more VPs turned presidents, as well as general instability as the people get fed up with their elected reps being removed (by other elected reps, but the electorate won't necessarily view it the republic correcting itself).
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Alleged bankers sing anti-government protester song in the central business district
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lU3BIViAsFQ

Pro-government protesters stage a second day rally in the Kowloon mall
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSGYl2Dk_eY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgU9-OJ2W10

Anti-government protester propaganda team interview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbSJzwi-xOY

Protests reach 100 days
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fgUsqG3yNE

Anti-government leader Denise Ho presents anti-government protester song at the Oslo Freedom Forum, a conference run by the CIA front Human Rights Foundation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZUtV9NsikM
The music video itself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULFVjUwRepE
On the Oslo Freedom Forum and the training they give protesters around the globe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIjVBUwpri8

She and fellow leader Joshua Wong have been making the global rounds and plan on speaking with the US congress to convince them to pass the so called Hong Kong Human Rights and Democracy Act, an attempt to make Hong Kong a US protectorate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibo0-LyihiA
https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/3289/text
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/what-is-the-hong-kong-human-rights-and-democracy-act/ar-AAH2hrv

Speaking of Joshua Wong, here's a short overview of him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0KX0eTH1kg

Anti-government protesters climb Lion Rock Hill during the Mid-Autumn Festival, US and UK colonial flags in hand
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQRHm27cMSM

Traditional Mid-Autumn Festival activities and anti-government gatherings mix in various parts of the city
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tH2iA9VMZjY
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>>459921
I had never heard of the Oslo Freedom Forum before. Is it the new OTPOR?
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>>459927
It's a networking platform where the wealthy Western capitalist elites hire and patronize 'activists', fanatical ideological crusaders, who want to turn the entire planet into a western capitalist oligarchy. Exactly the sort of trash that waves Imperial British and American flags in Hong Hong and wants to see the city "liberated" by American bombers and death squads.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oslo_Freedom_Forum
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>>459482
I’ve been in Hong Kong for 16 yrs. Hong Kong people don’t all hate China people. They have a inferiority complex, they aren’t able to come to terms that China has become better in terms of economics and global might. Hong Kong has seriously regressed in terms of progress compare to the mainland.
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>>459927
>Is it the new OTPOR?
They are the ones in charge of training the new Otpor's around the world. What the NED was to Otipor, the OFF is to groups like Demosisto. The tactics are largely the same, just updated and streamlined from the Color Revolution days.
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Fighting breaks out between pro- and anti-government protestors in the malls, police separate both groups
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaHfambbGHo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzfc5znqoBI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPoBL8sQWeA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53GQJAMBaVg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBNiurKeV3w
Thing's seem to be getting a little tense between the two factions across the territory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2bg1rXsl1g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I48_K5DaXOo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJ7ncOMB21E
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>>460009
Mods, lock this shit up. Ain’t news, just shills here
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>>460019
>being that scared of the truth
You should try Reddit. A 100% government-approved and controversy-free information safe space for the true American patriot.
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>>460019
How is posting current events shilling? From multiple sources too so you could get a more comprehensive view of what's happening. Or do you just want your specially crafted news that only shows what you're comfortable with seeing?
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>>459666
Maybe because we don’t have a parliamentary system and Congress doesn’t choose who runs the executive branch. Also hilarious that you believe Congress is cooperative with the executive given how it’s notorious for gridlock. Don’t post about things you know nothing of retard.
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>>460056
>>460066
This isn’t news faggots...retards fighting in a mall, source ‘YouTube’.....no one gives a shit Tang!
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>>460105
Get fucked, faggot.
Just because you’re unable to parrot your propaganda unopposed doesn’t mean the thread is offtopic
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>>460105
China has stages where they sets up fake stories to spread to stupid china men to hate hong kongers, right?
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>>459934
Yes, HK has been enriched gloriously by ditch squatting, public shitting/ pissing, chemist supply hoarding, fevered consumer provincial mainalnd locusts for some time now. The local HK people love it.
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Weekend violence and rioting following weekend protests
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0R6-vM8_bAY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=827eQk80pTk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vge4Q68hVWE

Anti-government protesters continue to wave US flags and call for the US to pass their Hong Kong Human Rights and Democracy Act through congress
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6hi_7b4vy0

Anti-government protesters head to British consulate with Union Jacks and their old colonial flags in hand
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y52y3NxL6aI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NM6vccWHC3Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJnPNA6a2DM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_m83VhtkD88
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98I4luNNai4

Anti-government protesters at Admiralty Station
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXoBgheetSc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHmjTTWLV5s

Anti-government protesters throw firebombs at police, who respond with water cannons
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_C-I9Ewn4A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PYsA6nL7PE

Pro- and anti-government protesters clash at night, journalists also attacked by protesters, police respond with tear gas and make arrests
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wNy8cTMkzw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1ETEo6pkEs

Protesters beat guys shitless
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXWSqBc7ScE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Uuoes16J6k

Molotov Cocktail action
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1icsas1Hhng
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFEtcYS0bXg

Some night footage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZpelaUBBCk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqCfs4UWJ-s

This one is from Saturday, anti-government protesters target a women in a store for some reason, using lasers that could permanently blind directly into her eyes, followed by taunting, fighting, and stealing and kicking her bag. Don't really know the context of this one as to why she was targeted
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBZ6QTxGNq0
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You can call the protests "peaceful" in an ironic way...just the same way that you can call the use of Pro China thugs by police "diplomacy".

Remember that time they let Pro China thugs storm Yuen Long MTR and beat innocent people with steel bars and bamboo, while the police were "stood down"?

Yeah remember that? Well that's why the protesters are smacking down pro China thugs.

Because it was proven weeks ago in HK police are NOT upholding any law and order at all.

So fuck your video collection #573
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>>458943
Based
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>>460635
Two wrongs don’t make a right shithead...grow the fuck up, violence doesn’t just affect those fighting especially when it’s on this scale...you justification for these rioters violence is pathetic
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>>460647
Ok numbnuts. HK civilians should lay down and take their beating when pro China thugs under the control of civil servants (the HK police force) decide its time to beat innocent people? So you're saying in a city without proper rule of law, citizens should know their role, lay down and get beaten?

Moron
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What kind of message does it send to the wider population when 20 to 30 armed thugs are able to enter a train station, bash innocent civilians, and then leave said train station un-questioned by scores of police right outside?

What does an event like that DO for civilians to see that? Fill them with confidence?

This happened weeks ago. I'd be rioting against that sort of hillbilly shit too.
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>>458532
You always know when the CCP propagandists start targeting 4chan because suddenly there are stacks of pro-pooh posts when before no one even talked about China, let alone defended it
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>>460635
>>460655
>>460656
What does an attack by Triads two months ago have to do with the violence and vandalism happening now? There haven't been any reports of similar incidents since then AFAIK, feel free to provide any sources though.

Did the Triads of two months ago cause the protesters of yesterday to throw molotov cocktails or destroy a metro station?

Did they compel the anti-government protesters to try to blind a woman and harass her?

Did the Triads of two months ago to make the protesters of two weeks prior to ransack Parliament?

Trying to defend the anti-government protester's actions because of one incident is dubious as none of this even started with the Triad attack.

Stop shilling so hard just because you don't like watching actual events on the ground instead of what CNN and BBC feed you. If you think that the violence and vandalism legitimate acts of protest against the Hong Kong leadership and Beijing just say so but don't deny they are happening or pin the blame to one incident months ago.
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>>460655
>>460655
Learn to read fuckface...
where did I say you should lay down and not pursue your civil liberties. The justification you use for violence especially when they are targeted towards, not just the police, but the general public who are bystanders and innocent for what you see as your plight is wrong. Attacks on the public transportation infrastructure (ie fires, vandalism, disruptions to airports, roads and subways) only affects those who are trying to go about their lives, not the police. These rioters have become the very thing that they are saying they are fighting against, oppression, beating and verbally abusing others who have a different opinion to theirs.

These zoomer rioters are pissed because their lives are garbage, and they have only themselves to blame. Everything in Hong long is shit now cause of them.

Please go and improve yourself before you try to improve society, you’re not qualified with your shit reading comprehension and lack of critical thinking.
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>>460658
You're an idiot if you can't work that out.

>>460661
Calm down Cindy. You haven't demonstrated any higher understanding of the issue. You do sound like a hippy though. Which makes you a Communist.

Police LET thugs bash civilians. I'd fucking riot against that cowardly lawless China smack too.
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>>460663
Cindy...lol
Ok pencil dick soiboy!
You couldn’t even get any of the points I was making, let alone refute any of them. You’ve demonstrated your stupidity admirably, and here you are trying to talk about higher understanding...
This ladies and gentlemen, is your average soiboy retard Hong Kong rioter.
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>>460670
>>460663

amazingy example of angosuckson medias

There Was No "Tiananmen Square Massacre"

Behind this is the weight of eyewitness accounts, de-classified Western government reports, and historians' work that supports the story of a brief period of negotiation between the army and some student hold-outs (there weren't all that many left in the square by then) when troops began entering the square in force just before dawn -- silencing the public address system loudspeakers with a volley of gunfire. The last group of protestors filed out of the square to the south soon after.

I was being held captive by Chinese army troops on the south portico of the Great Hall of the People (which forms one of the borders of the Square) when that round of gunfire occurred.

I could hear it but I could not see into the Square. Around forty minutes later, Derek Williams and I were driven in a pair of army jeeps right through the square, almost along its full length, and into the Forbidden City.

Dawn was just breaking. There were hundreds of troops in the square, many sitting cross-legged on the pavement in long curving ranks, some cleaning up debris. There were some tanks and armored personnel carriers. But we saw no bodies, injured people, ambulances or medical personnel — in short, nothing to even suggest, let alone prove, that a "massacre" had recently occurred in that place.

Later, being debriefed on-air by Dan Rather, I recall making an effort to avoid using the word "massacre." I referred to an "assault" and an "attack."

I reported what I saw; I said I hadn't seen any bodies. Admittedly, I've never made a point of trying to contradict a colleague on the air; I've simply stuck to my own story, because I've believed it's true.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/there-was-no-tiananmen-square-massacre/

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH CCAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNN YYYYYOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUU SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!
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>>460672
Cool story breh
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Glory to Hong Kong. I stand with HK.
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>>460056
Also home of Sino, a dedicated Pro-Chinese leddit. OP is probably form there.
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>>459420
>"Only 250K turned out. It wasn't that bad, in fact that probably means everyone else supports it!"
>"Only 50K less than the 2003 anti-sedition law protests then according to Reuters."
Okay. Nice reaching chap.
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>>460658
>haven't been any reports of similar incidents
Davin Wong and Jimmy Shum both got beaten up by masked men. Wong had to flee.
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>>460709
Can you provide a source?
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>>460792
No
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>>460792
https://www.smh.com.au/world/asia/hong-kong-university-student-leader-flees-city-after-beating-20190913-p52r2k.html
https://www.hku.hk/press/press-releases/detail/19904.html
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>>460670
You didn't make any points Cindy. You babbled some kind of pseudo morality about 2 Wongs not making a White, without acknowledging cops that ALLOW thugs to beat innocent civilians results in mob rebellion.

Your pseudo children's book ethics is best suited for your Hippy commune, wanker.
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The CCP chosen government is corrupted.

The CCP's mainland population bought out honger's baby milk powder.

The CCP's mainland population rushed into hongkong and the corrupted governments gave all the welfare housing to them.

The CCP's mainland population play square dance and CCP music aloud to keep Hongers awake at night.

The Hongers want to give birth to their baby in hongkong so that they can receive welfare, as consequence:

Hongers were almost cast out of their own welfare system.

Honger Mamas find it difficult to find a hospital and give birth locally.

Hongers Mamas do not have enough baby products, because of the mainland mamas, or speculation derived from mainland mamas.

Honger mamas unable to find good kindergarten.

Governmental wellfare housing goes to mainland Mamas.

Government stole pensionists money and gave heck lot of $$$ to support mainland mama

Pensionists knocked on governments door and told them "hey I need money to pay the bills, but too old to find a job, no company needs me..."

"You're on your own"- replied the officials.

And the exact same time mainland mama came back at Hongers mama and show off her new house.

At the end mainland mama defecated at Hongers Mama's door as an insult.

And it's the western countries fault to blame, of course.
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>>460943
I think you misspelled "allahu Akbar America must make Munroe doctrine now"
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>>460909

Reading comprehension shithead...you should really look into it
You’re trying too hard to be some revolutionary chad, but you're just a cowardly retarded soiboy
Just KYS now, make the world better that way
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>>460892
Revolutionary cowards....must be great to wreck shit and not have to deal with any of the consequences
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>Gershman
>Weinstein

Interesting
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>>458532
>ugly face
fuck right off you piece of human garbage.

humans rights, voting rights, ugly? wtf I despise you.
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>>460995
Because getting beaten up is not consequence enough am I right?

>revolutionary
Funny as you love a Party who came to power by a Revolution and was just as ruthless no even more than that but if you want Revolutionary at the rate it is going it is becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy.
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>>461022
>humans rights, voting rights
The US never wants either of these for the people or places it "liberates".
They always want the land, resources and markets for their military and corporate businesses to exploit and take back to the States and they don't mind committing human rights violations or vote rigging to do it. Who's going to do anything? The UN? And in the off-chance the people get to vote and vote in someone that isn't a US pawn, they "liberate" the people again from their own choice. Uncle Sam knows best, but you already knew that CIAnon.
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>>461022
You have the fucking gall to say that after what you did to the Middle East? How you fucked over South America by executing elected leaders? Every fucking thing you've ever done has been for cheap foreign labor and pure fucking profit. There's a reason the entire world wants to see you fucking die you stupid cunts, and you want to know something? It's not what you do, every country does terrible shit when they can. IT'S YOU DUMB FUCKERS WHO ACTUALLY BELIEVE YOU'RE HELPING. At least the average fucking Saudi will politely chuckle behind his hand as he denies what his country causes, but you sit there plain faced and inbred to hell and back actually thinking you're giving people democracy as you plunder their resources.

Every time the rest of the world hears of some fucking /pol/cunt enacting a micro My Lai Massacre in one of your schools or malls, all we say is "America is fucked." There's no sorrow, there's no pity, nobody wants to start up any charitable affairs, it's just that simple phrase "America is fucked" Cause we don't care. Because everyone, aside from actual 60 year old boomers (and even then not all of them), thinks you deserve it.
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>>461556
The US can't do much in liberating Hong Kong by military force not unless they want to start a War. What they can do is punish people who make Hong Kong lives shitter.

The Hong Kong people can and will liberate themselves. The only way out of this is for the government to meet most of the demands including Universal Suffrage. Maybe then there's a chance, however slight, things will calm down and there won't be the dreaded Hong Kong independence.
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>>461999
If they could liberate themselves they wouldn't need to wave foreign flags asking for foreigners to liberate their city for them or fly their own colonial flag which is the opposite of liberation. Seeking subordination to another great power is just changing masters. The only reason to try to court other nations (besides obvious foreign elements within the protest movement) is because they don't believe that through their own efforts alone there is a way for Hong Kong to gain independence.

This isn't the first time Hong Kong has erupted into violence. In 1967, there was a similar protest movement against the British that followed much the same lines, except the political views of those involved were flipped. The protesters were pro-Beijing and the government and police were pro-Western. The protesters were factory workers and students that were brutally suppressed by the British-loyal HK police, which caused it to escalate into full violence and insurrection on a larger scale than now that lasted for 7 months and included the same sort of destruction and molotov cocktails we've seen today, but also bombings, live ammunition and police raids leaving over 50 people killed. Even after all of that the protests failed and the police were even praised for their crackdown in the Western media and even got a title from the Queen herself while the protesters were cast as thugs and terrorists. But despite losing they did set the stage for the eventual handover 30 years later.

If today's protesters want to not repeat the mistakes of their grandparent's generation in their quest to liberate Hong Kong they'll have to not repeat the same script of destruction and chaos past the point of the original complaints but replacing little red books and PRC chants with MAGA signs and your former colonizer's anthem. The public will likely turn away from them if this continues to escalate while producing no results besides geopoliticing and loss of business to Shanghai and Macau



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