President Trump told aides to deny that his internal polling showed him trailing former Vice President Joe Biden in key states, according to a new report from The New York Times.Later, when the polling in 17 states conducted by Tony Fabrizio leaked, Trump told aides to tell reporters that other data showed him doing better, according to the Times story written by Annie Karni and Maggie Haberman.The polling reportedly showed Trump behind Biden in a number of the states he needs to take to win reelection, though the Times report did not identify them.“No one has ever asked us to lie about anything," a Trump campaign official told The Hill in a statement on Tuesday. "The poll in question shows President Trump beating a defined Democrat opponent.”Beyond Trump's internal polling, a series of recent surveys have shown the president trailing Biden in several important states.Last week, a Quinnipiac University poll found Biden 4 points ahead of Trump in Texas, a state Democrats haven't won in the presidential election since 1976.A different poll released last week found Trump trailing Biden and several other 2020 Democrats in Michigan, a state he narrowly won in 2016. Trump was the first Republican presidential candidate to win Michigan and Pennsylvania since 1988. He also won Wisconsin, the first time a Republican had taken that state since 1984.If Trump were to lose those three states in 2020 and the Democratic nominee held the other states carried by Democrat Hillary Clinton in 2016, Trump would lose the Electoral College.Trump has been focused on Biden, who has been the front-runner in the Democratic campaign so far. He and Biden will both be campaigning on Tuesday in Iowa, which will host the first caucuses early next year. https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/447858-trump-told-aides-to-deny-his-internal-polling-showed-him-trailing-biden
We already knew he lives in his own bubble world surrounded by yes-men.
Biden will never be president.Trump knows this.Fake news
>>410824If he knows that then why is he upset
>>410823>>410817Biden has a 99% of being the next president.Trump BTFO
>>410826It this point in 2015 during the last election cycle everybody thought Jeb Bush would be the next president.
>>410826Just like hillary did. Kek
biden is fake and gay
>>410817>a new report from The New York TimesDo they cite sources? I bet they used sources. Sources are really smart.
>>410826Unless Biden prosecutes Trump, Trump still wins.
>>410826You mean Biden is setting things up for the real candidate. He's going to get Bernie'd for either Harris or Hillary.
>>410927>Expecting people to click on that linkMust feel lonely you can't post your Russian and reddit made cancer here :^)
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/447972-biden-leads-trump-by-landslide-proportions-in-new-national-pollI'm a Sanders man, but this does not look good for Trump.And before you go >Mum pollsEverything was still within the margin of error in 2016. Trump better start a war or pray the Russians hack he results if this holds up.
>>410962Trump will in a landslide, the SJW factor has turned the Democrats into a fringe party who's candidates are only electable in a few deranged enclaves on the coasts
>>410823Who Trump or the shill shitting up this board with these retarded threads?
>>410983Its that bastard Anonymous who posts all the threads, it much be some kinda crazy conspiracy.
>trump doesn't have faith in pollswow what could've of caused this
>>410927>copeOh boy its just gonna be 2016 all over again.
>>411042His historically shitty numbers might have to do with that
Biden is a fucking demon. fuck him. fuck democrats. the democrats will start nuclear war on this planet just to scam some shit from other countries.
>>411077I'd rather scam another country than scam and exploit our own as Republicans are want to do
>>411077No, Russkie, no. Fuck you.
>>411080if you really want to see what its like to be scammed and exploited, you should look at the people living in tents in California while silicon valley and hollywood millions reach new heights.
>>411085>California while silicon valley and hollywood millions reach new heightsDo Republicans control California?
>>411077I support this very truth comment and I love Trump and America. MAGA.
>>411180Heroin controls homeless people.
>>411077>The democrats will start nuclear war on this planet just to scam some shitWhat is the deal with this post
>>410962It’s a good effort anon. This thread is just the retards on /pol/, /ptg/s specifically, not understanding the difference between an actual poll and a prediction iteration 25,482,293.They were singing the same tune before the midterms. Did the actual vote change their minds? Of course not.Sorry that your man Bernie is not doing so well. Biden just has a better shot at unseating Trump.
>>411196Bernie is doing very well, what are you talking about.
>>411197Bernie is stuck at his ceiling. Hey, I ain’t a huge fan of Biden - I will vote for him once he wins the nomination- but he is dominating right now and Bernie is at his ceiling not his floor.
>>411200ah, yes. the Biden shill. Does his campaign pay you? I do Bernies campaigning free of charge.
>>411204The only thing you've achieved with your campaigning is to conclusively demonstrate that Bernie supporters are Trump-adjacent shitposting retards and conspiracy theorists.The Biden campaign would do well to cut you a check.
>>411204I don’t think I have ever posted anything on here about Biden?>paid shillEveryone who makes a point you dislike must be paid to have that opinion?I got that, mostly, from 538 iirc.Go Bernie! I just don’t think he will win. Please don’t vote for Stein (or whoever) if he doesn’t.
>>410830Just like a "red wave" in 2018 and one of the best Dem performances in the house since the 1970s. BTFO'd eternally
>>411252I'll cross that bridge when I get there. Bernie or death for now.>>411251>Bernie supporters are Trump-adjacentHuh, this is some high powered autism. Well done.
>>411258You personally announced that you, quote, "voted for Trump to take down Hillary and begin an overhaul of the left as a whole."In the way you engage in idiotic conspiracy theorist about 4chan posters, 4chan mods, polls, the DNC, and pretty much everyone else, you're completely indistinguishable from a Trump supporter (not surprising, because you are one).
>>411259yeah that wasn't me. You keep saying that, but it doesn't make it true. How bad is your memory btw we had the same exact conversation already.
>>411267>yeah that wasn't me. You keep saying that, but it doesn't make it true. How bad is your memory btw we had the same exact conversation already.This is the first time you actually said outright it wasn't you. The last time we had it you deflected the accusation without addressing it.And how many rabidly shitposting conspiracy theorizing anti-Biden pro-Sanders Stein voters are there on /news/, do you think? I'll tell you a secret: there's one. It's you. Alternatively, tell us who you actually voted for, because the chance that you literally wrote-in "fuck hillary and fuck trump" on your ballot is near zero.
>>411258Well, good? I guess.Who did you vote for in ‘16? Stein? That’s alright, a lot of kids did since they believed in the pundit class.
>>411279voting for Stein was a vote for Trump in battleground states.in my state, voting for Stein was like not voting at all. didn't matter.
>>411311lmao it really fucking was you
>>411316imagine falling for this trap. hahaha. oh this is ripe.
>>411321"i said something retarded and then someone called me retarded, i sure got them good"
>>411322>falls for trap>I got you good!
>>411324Be happy; you'll have infinite opportunity to boast about how cleverly you entrapped me every time I point out that you're a self-proclaimed Trump voter in the future. The winning will never end.
>>411322I do remember when I struggled with the idea of an anonymous board 14 years ago though. Sigh, simpler times.
>>411328There's not more than one rabidly shitposting conspiracy theorizing anti-Biden pro-Sanders Stein voter in /news/. You've cleanly identified yourself at this point.The fact that you can trivially disavow your posts or pretend that other people are you on an anonymous imageboard doesn't mean that anyone will actually believe you.
>>411330You have a massive boner for me, admit it.I haven't gotten this much attention from a user since I tucked my balls behind my legs and uploaded the pic to /b/
>>411331>You have a massive boner for me, admit it.The more I reply to you, the most you reveal yourself to be a shitposter of unimaginable proportions, and the more idiotic your pet causes look. If you're enjoying it too it's a win-win all around.
>>411334>TheAlright, alright, alright! I actually think you're winning people over here. Continue flaming out of your mind on multiple threads while I ignore you, surely that will make you look sane
>>411339>Continue flaming out of your mind on multiple threads while I ignore you,>while I ignore youIf you think this is an accurate description of what's going on, you have less self-awareness than a particularly retarded sea cucumber.If you had been actually ignoring me instead of just shouting about how much you're ignoring me, this exchange would have ended four hours ago.
>>411344I'm sure this reply was very insightful and sounded nothing like a Yu Gi Oh monologue explaining how this time he was going to win the battle. Video link related.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6XBx9eAMr4
>>411347>I'm sure this reply was very insightful It was a basic statement of fact, no doubt a concept entirely foreign to you.
>>411350>claim I argued what socialism was for weeksit was like a half hour to an hour and maybe 5 posts where you ended up declaring victory over a philosophical disagreement where socialism begins and ends.You're just a liar from the start, and you have nothing to offer thereafter since you are clearly compromised.
>>411371>it was like a half hour to an hour and maybe 5 posts where you ended up declaring victory over a philosophical disagreement where socialism begins and ends.The conversation in that particular thread was spread out over more than a day, and was only one in a series of threads in which an endless parade brain-dead Bernie supporters argued all sorts of retarded shit about the definition of socialism.
>>411311Fair enough. Thanks. I would recommend just voting for the Dem this year. It really rubs the /ptg/er the wrong way that he lost the popular vote.Ib4>he would have won the popular voteI know, I lnow. And the earth is flat - your opinions are cute.
>>411383the man is kompromised! definitely sounds like weeks!
>>411452The series of threads in which brain-dead Bernie supporters such as yourself have been attempting to obfuscate the definition of socialism has, in fact, been going on for weeks.
>>411494>>411383Remove yourself from your obsession with the dictionary definition socialism and for once in your confusing life attempt to exist momentarily in a state of pragmatism. We know what our country's problems are. We know that, for example, the most effective way of addressing drug and alcohol addiction is through comprehensive out-patient treatment and community resources. We know that the most effective way of addressing teen pregnancy and STD transmission is through community clinics, sexual education and free or cheap STD testing and family planning resources. We know from the example lead by European countries like the Netherlands that the most effective way to reduce recidivism rates in convicted criminals is through providing education, humane living conditions, and post-release resources. None of what I've said is an opinion. These are matters of measurable, observable, documented fact. What we also know is that the way we address these issues in America has only made all of these problems worse. We know for a fact that simply telling people to "be better" and "stop doing that" and enforcing policy and moral frameworks through shame and punishment has been an expensive, embarrassing disaster. Un-glue yourself from the great stigma of socialism and truly ask yourself; if expanding social programs and addressing social issues in the statistically most effective ways possible is going to fix these giant problems in our country and produce a more happier, productive people, why the fuck does it matter what its called? Who the fuck cares if these programs fall under the vague banner of socialism? Why is its label more important than the fact that we know 100% that they are effective? I'm just sure what this argument about the definition of socialism and who agrees with it has to do with what the problems are in this country and what the most effective way of addressing them are.
>>411511>wall of drivelY'all ain't from 'round these parts, are ye?
>>411517I should of known better to expect the knuckle draggers here to be bothered to read one paragraph of information. I forgot for a moment that only shitposts are welcome here. I apologize. It won't happen again.
>>410944>>410962>>411083>>411180>muh russian spykeep seething
>>411511Learn what paragraph breaks are.>Remove yourself from your obsession with the dictionary definition socialism and for once in your confusing life attempt to exist momentarily in a state of pragmatism.If you want to vote for Sanders knowing full well that his definition of socialism is "idiosyncratic" (ie, not socialism), that's cool. More power to you. Same goes if you want to vote for any of the other Democrats on the left-wing. I'm specifically targeting a small band of retards who insists on repeatedly doubling down on their idiocy.
>>411511I read it. You can’t cure the guys autism with facts. He’s really obsessed with the means of production being directly and explicitly owned by the state and any of democracy where the means do production are indirectly and tacitly controlled by the state are not socialism at all. He’s quite obsessed with a conceptual loop. He has autism and it just gets worse the more you mention how great socialism mixed into a capitalist economy is. Just keep saying socialism. He will have a hernia.
>>411539This guy is legit not from here. Reddit wants their faggot back. you clearly are a newfag hahah.
>>411540>I read it. You can’t cure the guys autism with facts. He’s really obsessed with the means of production being directly and explicitly owned by the state and any of democracy where the means do production are being directly and explicitly owned by the stateThis is a lie, as you well know; in the previous thread, I directly acknowledged that there are many forms of socialism that do not require direct state control of the economy: "other forms of market socialism, such as cooperatives, syndicalism, public supervision of investment, and so on.">indirectly and tacitly controlled by the stateThis, however, is complete garbage, a tortured series of intellectual leaps to equate regulated capitalism, which existed even during the Gilded Era, with actual socialized ownership of the economy.>Just keep saying socialism. He will have a hernia.I've had plenty of perfectly reasonable discussions with socialists over the years. You can say it a thousand times and I won't give even half a shit, unless you go back to attempting to sell people on a retarded non-definition of socialism. You're more frustrated about the word than I am.>>411542This canned shitpost could have been made at literally anyone in this thread and been equally coherent.
>>411547>reeeeeeeee. Nobody is reading this.
>>411511This speaks a lot of truth and I should add, with due respect to the embarrassing disaster of our punishment policy. Anyone reading this and disagreeing with it should really ask themselves, how fucking selfish am I?There are a lot people in this country right now that can help the ones who need it and there need to be programs in place to get them together. Everyone can win in that scenario. Someone gets a job and gets paid. Hopefully fairly and enough to feed themselves or their family. Someone maybe gets back on their feet before they need to rob you at knife point for drug money.I look around me and hear the conversations of people passing by at work or out in the smoking area. From what I hear, options are very limited for everybody on both sides for different reasons. Maybe they're not there at all.I think it's time that we grow up and think about our neighbors more.
>>411549Well, the best thing you can do is support a progressive. Trump has proven to do the opposite and promote the opposite behavior in men.
>>411548Faced with every single claim of yours being called out on the fabrication that it is, you once again prove yourself only capable of responding with a one-line shitpost and abandoning the debate. By this time tomorrow, of course, your diseased mind will remember this as you having somehow won the debate.
>>411555You legitimately think I’m reading your responses and arguing with you..
>>411565I'm well aware that you're actually just mindlessly shitposting while ignoring the actual content of the posts you're replying to, but that's all the posts you've ever made, so really nothing has changed.
>>411568I read your comments if they are 1 sentence long. Legitimately on my life I’m not reading your comments partly because I’ve never seen someone so triggered or obsessed with a namefag.
>>411569I've been arguing with self-important retards in /news/ since long before you adopted your retarded namefag gimmick, and don't feel the need to stop just because one of them decided that he'd go full attention whore.
>>411570Just read through this and was thoroughly entertained by your autism. You claim you've been on 4chan for 10 years? You get trolled easier than the Trump newfags who stormed the chans back in 2015. top kek.
>>410981>he already forgot last year's electionmmmmmk
>>411571>You get trolled easier than the Trump newfags who stormed the chans back in 2015. top kek.The whole "I was just pretending to be retarded" thing doesn't actually impress anyone. If our retarded friend wants to admit openly that he only ever did shitpost in /news, he's free to do that.Fun fact about the 2015 Trumptards: they also commonly engaged in the pattern of abandoning their arguments in favor of shitposting and ending with "I TROLL U." It's not any more impressive now than it was then.
>>411582The funner fact is being the one who didn't get trolled in the first place.
>>411594Doing damage control for a retarded argument you made isn't "trolling" unless you knew the argument was retarded when you made it. You didn't.
>>411530How about this?Our administration is ran by a turtlish vessel of evil while a bloated hype man takes credit and perpetually acts like a retard?...better?
>>411596And it was at this point that we went into the philosophical meaning of socialism and how it’s a gradient. At what point do you give up on trying to sound smart?
>>411604>And it was at this point that we wentAnd it was at that point which I stopped arguing with you in the previous thread, because you had replaced your original retarded argument with a new non-retarded argument.The argument started again because you decided to engage in historical revisionism by denying that you had ever made the original retarded argument in the first place, and then proceeded to blame conservatives for the idiotic phenomenon in which people confuse regulated capitalism for socialism despite Bernie fans leading that charge in /news/ for, yes, weeks.
>>411519>I apologize. It won't happen again.Great. I recommend redditurning to where you came from.
>>411530And Trump just asked the russians to meddling in the next election.Oops
>>411196The problem is we've got an opportunity to undo all the damage Republicans have done in the past 30 years. and actually move America forward with people like Sanders.Biden would be Obama 2.0, yes he'd fix the Republicans immediate fuck ups, but he'd keep the status quo that would allow those same idiots rebound and make things worse. I'd still support Biden in the general because anyone is better than the traitor. But he'd lose all confidence if he let's Trump off the hook and doesn't prosecute him.
>>412277The Russian is triggered by the facts it seems.
>>412278Lmao you’re facts are pathetic polls that we already BTFO in 2016. Now you cling to deluded damage control so you can keep faith in your propaganda polls. Sorry fag, 5 more years.
>>412275The damage the Republicans have done?Do you not see the effects of democratic policies?https://youtu.be/lm-FqtAOSB820 years of liberal policies did more to destroy the black family then the legacy of slavery. Black families were more together the day after abolition than today.
>>412275>move America forwardToward what, exactly?
Biden is a fucking demon who has huge stash of dead bodies in his cellar. fuck him and send him back to the hell he crawled out.
>>412311>Black families Who the hell cares? Can we see a show of hands?
>>410826>Biden has a 99% of being the next president.>Trump BTFOThink women are going to help make Uncle McFeelie Creeperson POTUS?
>>410890>You mean Biden is setting things up for the real candidate. He's going to get Bernie'd for either Harris or Hillary.Harris? Ha! Michael Obama was the last negress we will see in the White House for at least 50 years.
>>413053Yes. Women despise Trump in aggregate and don’t seem effected by his handsyness.>b-b-but muh memesYes your memes are very cute. That is for playing but the polls show they have no impact.
>>413053They made a man who multiple times talked on national media forums unsolicited about how bang able his daughter is and how he would if he wasn't her dad president. Of course this probably plays to the base in Kentucky and the hollers of WV