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https://www.city-journal.org/seattle-trash-crisis
>Over the past few years, Seattle has become a dumping ground for millions of pounds of garbage, needles, feces, and biohazardous waste, largely emanating from the hundreds of homeless encampments that have sprouted across the city. Now, the Emerald City is on the verge of a full-blown public-health crisis. Last year saw a 400 percent increase in HIV infections among mostly homeless addicts and prostitutes in the city’s northern corridor. Public-health officials are sounding the alarms about the return of diseases like typhus, tuberculosis, and trench fever. Even the region’s famed mussels and clams have tested positive for opioids.
Free heroine in your mussels and clams? Seattle sounds pretty great
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Rather than take additional steps to remove illegal encampments, officials have chosen to accept, and even enable, them. The city council recently launched a pilot program to offer weekly garbage-pickup services to ten of the more than 400 encampments, promoting the illusion that these illegal tent cities are just like any other neighborhood. The program has been a failure. According to a Seattle Times report, campers returned only 26 percent of the trash bags that the city distributed and “even some of the ones returned had been ripped apart by people looking for needles with a bit of heroin left.”

Last year, despite overwhelming evidence that homeless encampments were generating enormous quantities of garbage, the city council considered making it illegal for non-homeless Seattle residents to dump trash in the encampments. Local politicians are so committed to representing the homeless as victims that they’ve invented a new crime: middle-class residents “framing” the homeless by dumping garbage in their camps. Unfortunately for activists and their city-government enablers, it’s becoming harder to explain away the thousands of tons of garbage, needles, tents, and feces that blanket much of the city.

Homeless are allowed to dump trash in the street and not criminalized, because they're your betters. If you live in a home and do the same thing they'll fine you
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Every university professors dream.
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Burgers hardly acknowledge the homeless even exist. Why figure out why there are so many homeless when you could pretend everything is fine while driving past a slum to Broadmoor? This article is saying the same shit that you just need to declare war on the homeless and bus them out to the midwest like Cali does. The homeless should go and fuck up Madison Park instead.
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>>397309
Honestly they should go to Hawaii
They should have a homeless island they fly people to
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Just your average leftist utopia.
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>>397297
we should build facilities to recycle the trash, then the homeless can work if able and willing and the trash can be cleaned up. or we could just bitch about homeless people, that works too.
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>>397311
>a homeless island
They're called prisons. They have literally everything the homeless need. There is no compassion in letting these people go only to commit more crimes.
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>>397297
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpAi70WWBlw
Seatle is Dying
>KOMO's Eric Johnson explores the impact the drug and homelessness problem is having on our city and possible solutions in "Seattle is Dying."
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>>397372
>then the homeless can work if able and willing
Imagine being this naive
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>>397400
Yeah. But prisons you can't leave and are punishment.
I'm talking about an island paradise. Build a dock on some uninhabited Hawaiian island. Few tenements. You can leave if you can afford a ticket to leave on the boat
Basically Australia for homeless, except instead of an island full of stuff trying to kill you it's a tropical paradise, with internet.
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>>397406
If you dont realize that this would end in a horrible shitshow of garbage and ultra violence, you are naive.
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>>397409
Then you set up cameras everywhere and make the next reality tv hit "Hobo Isle"
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They should just give the hobos community service instead of jail time.
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>>397409
And?
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>>397406
The soviet union actually a similar experiment
It did not end well
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>>397409
We can give them a paradise.
If they want to take drugs and also work a job, we give them an opportunity to do so. The government won't opress them with racist police. They can make all the money they want there. Won't even have to pay taxes. They'll get free regular food shipments, and I'm sure Amazon will be able to ship any medication or other things they might need.
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>>397427
Because it's very easy to freeze to death.
If it's too hot on a tropical island you can just go swimming
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>>397400
Prisons cost a ridiculous amount of money per person, but there should be regulated government-run camps for this kind of shit.
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Just let the homeless eat the rich. Literally everyone will be better off.
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Honestly there's no other realistic solution outside of dumping them in libshit cities. No one has an agreed upon solution and we will never come to some kind of compromise. These people are just going to be stuck in limbo as everyone gets poorer and poorer, the only realistic solution is doing our best to hide them from sight.
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>>397438
and who are they gonna eat after they finish eating the rich
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>>397449
(You)
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>>397441
>No one has an agreed upon solution
Every state from California to Florida has been dumping them in the Midwest by giving them free bus tickets on the condition that the never come back the their state. They then use the numbers of homeless people deported when they show how many people they "lifted" from poverty.
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>>397452
I've heard the exact opposite. That other states bus their homeless to californis where they know the California government would take them.
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>>397452
That explains some of the people behind me on the bus.
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>>397454
That's how it used to be, but the Californians got tired of it and don't take them in anymore. Now they send them out.
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What the hell, how can you have a homeless crisis ?
US is turning into a shithole for real.
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>>397459
homeless "advocates" resist method of dealing with homeless people other than giving them shit for free
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>>397441
Perfect example of shuffling deck chairs on the Titanic. Seattle is suffering one of the most devastating housing crises in recent memory. More and more people with full time jobs are being essentially booted from the middle class and marginalized into more and more destitute living conditions. The bottom of this barrel, obviously, are the chronically homeless but what corporate interests don't want you to know is that the lower-middle class is not far behind. Drug and alcohol addiction is a a major contributor to chronic homelessness but the key to the whole puzzle is that the path out of homelessness is extremely difficult. Drug and alcohol rehabilitation services are overworked and under funded. Even if a homeless person were to hold down a minimum wage now its nowhere near enough to afford housing in Seattle. What the rich want is to shuffle the homeless out of sight and convince the working class to malign the poor to distract them from their own destruction. This practice of sweeping the impoverished under the rug is the successful and time-tested formula of creating a plutocratic paradise in which more and more people are banished to the outskirts as cost of living grows higher and higher. Eventually the middle class will be destroyed and the elites will live in highly concentrated areas of wealth while all poor, working class people will be shuffled further and further away from the greater metropolitan areas until they're in slums. Its the perfect plan because while all of this is happening the elites have convinced average working class American that immigrants, minorities and other poor people are the ones sucking their resources dry.
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>>397459
Progressive claims that its really the red states generating homeless and then shipping them to the progressive utopias. IDK how a homeless person from TX or ID can walk that far across unforgiving landscape but its the most popular story they believe in.
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>>397473
>IDK how a homeless person from TX or ID can walk that far across unforgiving landscape
The same way you do, getting in a car and sucking a lot of dicks
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>>397473
>Progressive claims that its really the red states generating homeless and then shipping them to the progressive utopias.
The majority of states with the most federally dependent citizens (welfare, food stamps etc.,) are red. I don't know how anything about "shipping" homeless people but as someone who lives in a state with one of the largest homeless populations in the U.S. I will say that traveling here, either by train, hitchhiking or even car, is pretty accessible. The majority of the homeless people in my city aren't from here. They come here in groups. The term "homeless" is also a bit vague because a lot of these people are more nomadic street folk than they are homeless. They're not disabled in anyway, they just live in traveling groups that wander about the U.S. and find different places to squat.
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>>397473
riding the rails has been a hobo tradition for ages
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>>397463
>>397473
Ok i got it, you got a crisis like that when you have a problem but instead of actually trying to fix it, you point fingers at each other, letting the problem swole into a shit show.
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>>397487
and the wheels on the bus continue to go round and round
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>>397452
>dumping them in the Midwest

They should feel bad about that, because we're all pretty comfortable with letting them freeze to death out here.
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>>397510
>They should feel bad
Nothing makes a leftist feel bad. They can mentally justify anything. So far as considering even the most horrific genocides compassionate.
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>>397519
Seems like you've been ingesting a lot of Breitbart, cousin.
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>>397538
>Seems like you've been ingesting a lot of Breitbart, cousin.
I ain't wrong. Cognitive dissonance and self-righteousness are powerful stuff.
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>>397544
is it your contention that no leftist has never felt bad about anything in their lives
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>>397545
https://www.logicalfallacies.info/presumption/hasty-generalisation/
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>>397544
You should know, you’re suffering from it
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>>397297
Would you just look at that liberal paradise! Why, people must be pretty happy in Seattle because they're so progressive, which is the wisest. Wow, now I'll go pray to my Lord, Joseph Stalin. Dear Mighty Mustache, please grant more trash, disease, and violence onto my fair city of Seattle because gosh darn it, it's the Jewish/commie way! Amen.
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>>397564
lmao the anger that you live in shithole flyover country is hilarious, what's wrong mad you can't afford to move to LA?
You know red states are parasites, right?
>>397519
This entire post is so ironic.
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>>397465
Be less retarded
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>>397611
>flatter than a cow pie, and just as horrid too
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>>397570
>lmao the anger that you live in shithole flyover country is hilarious,
I may be wrong in this but I would assume that most people who live in the country side prefer to live there so they don't have to deal with all thi
deals shit that the city has
Crime rate? Low
Traffic? None
Neighbors? 4 miles away
I live in the city myself but Im probably about to buy a place off of a river in the country simply because of all the crap that goes on in the city I'd really rather not be around it
You guys can deal with your feces and needles and junkies I'd prefer to be able to drive home without seeing a hobo burning trash in a trash can
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpAi70WWBlw
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>>397661
Suicide rates are 20% higher in rural areas and growing for a reason
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>>397459
Seattle calls it a homeless crisis but it's really a symptom of the opioid epidemic combined with a police force instructed not to enforce the law on addicts. Seattle operates on the logic that drug addicts are people with an illness rather than criminals. This sounds like a good idea but it doesn't work very well. A criminal can be forced to do things they don't want like rehab and methadone programs. Someone with an illness can't be forced to get it treated even if it means they'll die. Drug addicts really don't want to stop taking drugs because drug addiction be like that. They have to be left to slowly die on a pile of used syringes and stolen bicycles because idiots expect them to have the same desire to get better as people with other illnesses.
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>>397297
Huge parts of the country are empty-buy abandoned houses in Detroit or Cleveland fix them up and send them there.
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>>397690
Treating drug addiction as crimes floods jails for no reason, costing money. You scare away addicts from treatment, who then incur healthcare expenses, which cost money. They commit the occasional crime, and litter the streets to get a fix, which costs money. Besides, we’ve been arresting junkies for decades and we’re still stuck in the same spot. Gotta Change pace
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>>397685

The way you're carrying on you obviously think it's because rural people are jealous of city dwellers and would rather kill themselves than not live like you, which is laughable.
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this is what happens when you thwart natural selection. when you subsidize something, you get more of it, of course. Leftism is a mental illness.
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>>397759
t. Smoothbrain
When you're surrounded by low employment, high drug use, high cost to get anything or anywhere due to isolation and lack of infrastructure and all the people around you are abandoned elderly or kids turned junkies, suicide rates will go up. It's even worse for farmers. No one gives a shit about urban fucks besides them passing this law or that tax that hits rural communities harder because they never leave their enlightened bubbles. So fuck you prick.
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>>397690
So the problem is opioid epidemic. But again, how ? People don't wake up one day and decide they turn into addicts. There is way to many for this to be natural selection. The acces to opioid must be way too easy for this to turn into a major homeless problem.
>Seattle operates on the logic that drug addicts are people with an illness rather than criminals.
This is how we do it in my part of the world and we don't have anything close to what US has in terms of homeless. But whatever the options regarding this, Homelessness and drug addiction is a symptom from another problem. The rotten apple must be removed from the basket because this is getting out of control.
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>>397311
Please no.

t. Aloha-Anon
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>>397763
>When you're surrounded by low employment, high drug use, high cost to get anything or anywhere
You're talking about how shity Urban Life is Right? Because you really sounding like you're describing it right now
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>>397763
>No one gives a shit about urban fucks
Except anyone who needs to eat, smoothbrain
you can only eat meth and heroin so long in the city before you need real food I'm not sure if you knew that
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>>397870
Hawaii has plenty of islands. Surely we can find one to put all the homeless on
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>>397872
>>397873
You suburbanites can fuck off. When you have to drive 40 miles to get to the nearest grocer or 100 for the doctor you'll be taken seriously
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>>397873
>inb4 vertical farming and hydroponics BTFOs the entire Us agricultural sector
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>>397297
Seattle’s problem is one of drugs. They don’t do heroin and crack because they are homeless. The vast majority are homeless because they spend more than they can afford on drugs and have no desire to change that.
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>>397896

Why fly all the way out to Hawaii when you only need to go about 20 miles out to sea?
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>>397311
>>397309
Do the George Carlin solution, take over every golf course in America and put low income housing on it.

The real problem is the culture of selfishness that is America and was really pushed by the right. Where the community doesn't matter and all you need to do is look out for yourself regardless of what else happens.
Look at how a country like Japan operates, especially with garbage. People clean up after themselves and they even go extra steps. Like at fast foot places, they have a separate container to pour left over drinks and ice as opposed to throwing it all out together and creating a leaky trash bag.
A few extra steps where everyone chips in along with a better system for disposing trash would go a long way to deal with this problem. But's it's a cultural one based on selfishness, so it won't happen.
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>>397763
>Farmers

Sen. Tom Cotton (R-AR) has a new defense for Trump's unnecessary trade war: that it's fine if farmers are going bankrupt because their sacrifices are "minimal" compared to the sacrifices made by members of the military.

On Monday's edition of "CBS This Morning," Cotton was asked about a recent study showing farmers in Arkansas will be hurt by the trade war.

"Is President Trump hurting the Americans he promised to help?" asked anchor Norah O'Donnell.

"There will be some sacrifice on the part of Americans, I grant you that," Cotton said. "But also I would say that sacrifice is pretty minimal compared to the sacrifices that our soldiers make overseas, that our fallen heroes who are laid to rest in Arlington make."

"You can't compare those two sacrifices," anchor Gayle King said, seeming taken aback that Cotton would try.

But Cotton doubled down. He claimed that farmers "look at the sacrifices soldiers, sailors, airmen, and Marines make around the world, and they're willing to bear some of the sacrifices in the short term, to hopefully in the long term ensure our long-term prosperity and security."

It's worth noting that even the conservative Heritage Foundation argues Trump's trade war will cause long-term economic harm, not just short-term pain.

But even if Cotton's argument about "long term" sacrifices were accurate, his framing is insulting to both farmers and soldiers. It uses soldiers as political props, and trivializes the suffering of farmers.

And farmers are indeed needlessly suffering due to Trump's trade war. The bankruptcy rates from farmers have skyrocketed since Trump imposed his reckless tariffs, which have caused major consumers of U.S. goods like China to retaliate and price American commodities out of the market.

Trump is spending billions in tax dollars to bail out farmers, but it's not enough to cover their lost sales. American farmers are losing money while Trump brags that trade wars are "good and easy to win."
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>>397430
>racist police
So many homeless people are white as shit lamo
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>>398141
>Look at how a country like Japan operates, especially with garbage. People clean up after themselves and they even go extra steps. Like at fast foot places, they have a separate container to pour left over drinks and ice as opposed to throwing it all out together and creating a leaky trash bag.
Japan sorts their trash because they really don't have much other option. They're a mountainous island and the places that aren't mountainous are used for cities and agriculture. They don't have land to set aside for landfills. Japan just tries to recycle everything and the stuff that can't be recycled is incinerated. Leaving food or liquid in containers to be recycled makes it more difficult to recycle them so they're encouraged to empty all containers and sort their trash to make disposal easier.
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>>398161
No shit that's the reason, but just because Americans have space to dump their trash doesn't mean they shouldn't try to emulate better systems for waste disposal.
Hell, trash cans are rare in Japan because they were all removed after the terrorist attacks, yet they managed to turn that into an advantage because it means people find ways to minimize their waste.
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>>397406
Just how long would that take before it turns into some sort of tropical take on Kowloon Walled City? A month?
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>>398239
>>397406
It'll turn into a Kowloon because of the culture where everyone only cares about themselves and not the community.
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>>397909
Monsanto already did that, all the farmers left are basically welfare queens



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