>The President of the United States owes farmers like myself some type of plan of action," John Wesley Boyd Jr., a soybean farmer in Baskerville, Virginia, told CNN's Brianna Keilar on Monday."Farmers were his base. They helped elect this president ... and now he's turning his back on America's farmers when we need him the most," he added. >"This can't go on for an extended period of time. We need a trade deal done soon, and in the meantime farmers are probably going to need another round of aid payments," said Kimberley, who is also the director of market development at the Iowa Soybean Association.Trump offered aid payments last year to farmers hurt by retaliatory tariffs, worth about $12 billion. https://edition.cnn.com/2019/05/13/politics/farmers-china-tariffs-trump/index.html
Wow you must have looked around for a whole 5 minutes on Facebook to get that image for the op you faggot normie.Go fuck off and die, were full here.I'm not even proud to be the first one posting in this shit thread
>>397205>>The President of the United States owes farmers like myself some type of plan of action," John Wesley Boyd Jr., a soybean farmer in Baskerville, Virginia, told CNN's Brianna Keilar on Monday.>"Farmers were his base. They helped elect this president ... and now he's turning his back on America's farmers when we need him the most," he added. >>>>"This can't go on for an extended period of time. We need a trade deal done soon, and in the meantime farmers are probably going to need another round of aid payments," said Kimberley, who is also the director of market development at the Iowa Soybean Association.>Trump offered aid payments last year to farmers hurt by retaliatory tariffs, worth about $12 billion. >>>https://edition.cnn.com/2019/05/13/politics/farmers-china-tariffs-trump/index.html>>397205Ain't it funny how obvious the ones pushing agendas dont even bother hiding it anymore? Get out you soycuck, it's not your battle, quit cherry picking stories to try to discredit our greatest president in history. MAGA
>>397219>>397223t. Guy on the left of OPs pic
God forbid these boomers grow something that people actually want to buy.
CNN is in league with Ching-Chong-Landia so this is no surprise that they are using the "Soybean Association" as a great authority in this matter.Perhaps they should grow some chickpeas for a while instead?
>>397265Or lettuce without spic shit on itt. Owner/opperator of a one man market farm that makes $300/day selling greens and heads of lettuce in zone 4
Communists don't comprehend why having a stable food supply is important and why food subsidies are necessary.
>>397205Democrats are so deranged about Trump that they're siding with China over Americam
>>397279These kind of massive subsidies to white farmers & trillions of dollars of corporate bailouts make white people the biggest welfare queens in america. But stats are always manipulated to hide the fact that crackers cant live without their gubment cheese.
>>397258Patriotism when they like it, socialism when they don't.
>>397265dipshit, soybeans are the #1 crop in the US. well... after grass... seriously, the most commonly cultivated domesticated vegetation in the US is actually lawn grass. but, next is soybeans
>>397672Imagine if we stopped cultivating a useless crop and did anything else with the resources
>>397279Imagine needing handouts from Big Brother to grow enough food to not starve. Sad.
>>397699Yeah imgaine if farmers had to get even deeper into debt to reorganize their entire farming crops into something that yields less output and money all to satisfy some low iq idea of what's considered an ethical food to eat.
>>397706Didn't know people ate lawn grass, brainlet
>>397279Lol you're retarded. Food subsidies bring a country closer to communism. Enjoy your excess supply of soy
>>397707Researchers are looking into ways to use grass in bio-diesel production for this very reason. We grow so much of it, cut it and don't really do anything with it. Unfortunately, these efforts haven't gotten anywhere really.
>>397275Selling at prices 5x normal market price because muh gmo free pesticide free organic local micro grower meme. Go suck Hillary's microdick you commie fag junkie
>>398050>commie>making huge profitsFound the jealous wageslave
OP isn't a real lefty. We don't make blanket generalizations about people for benefiting from redistributive programs.There was no inherent fairness or deservedness in how resources were distributed prior to the founding of nations with ordered economies. We don't believe that superimposing a free market on the chaos produces fair distribution nor necessarily gets resources to where they can be best utilized for public interest in all cases.We certainly wouldn't make comparisons of peoples' worth based solely upon their receiving foodstamps or somesuch.
Sen. Tom Cotton (R-AR) has a new defense for Trump's unnecessary trade war: that it's fine if farmers are going bankrupt because their sacrifices are "minimal" compared to the sacrifices made by members of the military.On Monday's edition of "CBS This Morning," Cotton was asked about a recent study showing farmers in Arkansas will be hurt by the trade war."Is President Trump hurting the Americans he promised to help?" asked anchor Norah O'Donnell."There will be some sacrifice on the part of Americans, I grant you that," Cotton said. "But also I would say that sacrifice is pretty minimal compared to the sacrifices that our soldiers make overseas, that our fallen heroes who are laid to rest in Arlington make.""You can't compare those two sacrifices," anchor Gayle King said, seeming taken aback that Cotton would try.But Cotton doubled down. He claimed that farmers "look at the sacrifices soldiers, sailors, airmen, and Marines make around the world, and they're willing to bear some of the sacrifices in the short term, to hopefully in the long term ensure our long-term prosperity and security."It's worth noting that even the conservative Heritage Foundation argues Trump's trade war will cause long-term economic harm, not just short-term pain.But even if Cotton's argument about "long term" sacrifices were accurate, his framing is insulting to both farmers and soldiers. It uses soldiers as political props, and trivializes the suffering of farmers.And farmers are indeed needlessly suffering due to Trump's trade war. The bankruptcy rates from farmers have skyrocketed since Trump imposed his reckless tariffs, which have caused major consumers of U.S. goods like China to retaliate and price American commodities out of the market.Trump is spending billions in tax dollars to bail out farmers, but it's not enough to cover their lost sales. American farmers are losing money while Trump brags that trade wars are "good and easy to win."
>>397219>Use the term 'normie' >Tell other people we're full.Newfags like you who came in 2015 are the biggest blight to 4chan.
>>397699>Farmers growing food>Making enough money growing crops to pay for their hundreds of k to millions of dollars of land>Call it useless crop that nobody would buyWhat did he mean by this?
>>398216Fuck you normie I came here in 2016-2017 for q Anon on pol after seeing YouTube videos about it and hearing about q from my parents
>>398230>lawn grass is foodWhat did he mean by this?
>>398231>I came here with all the other normalfagsLOL
>be poor>vote for rich guy>be mad he didn't do what he said he wouldOmg how unexpected the millionaire politician lied? What an unexpected turn of events.
>>398249Better than voting for the party whose baseline is "fuck white men make them extinct".
>>398265white male extinction is unstoppable tho
>>398302If that’s the case, I wouldn’t want to be you when they chimp out and kill all the minorities again.
>>398317What do you call a white chimp out?
>>398319It's called "doing the right thing"
This thread is quintessential communism. They want to cut food subsidies to virtue signal against whites.
>>397205So the proletariat can vote to be fucked by corporate interests or they can vote to be fucked by corporate interests but also disarmed and made further subservient to the state. Tough.
>>398324I was thinking of a KKK March or a Nazi campaign but
>>398319ooga booga ooga
>>398231i know you're joking, but i just realized some of the electionfags have been here for 3 years now, and they probably think that makes them oldfags
>>397710this. soy subsidies means everything contains soy, and while i dont think the estrogenic effects are clinically relevant, its still a really shit thing to eat for other reasons. corn subsidies means everything contains high fructose corn syrup and shit like soda and chips are dirt cheap, directly contributing to the obesity epidemic
>>397205White welfare is no new thing. Its the inherent Republican double standard that perpetuates the same kind of "identity politics" they so love to whinge about. A great example is the opioid crisis. The country laments over the increase in opioid deaths and Trump declares it a health emergency, promising to increase grants and spending into research and treatment. Imagine the pure and unbridled conservative rage if anyone suggested to them that the government sink money into programs to help crack addicted brown people in majority urban centers. When crack was an epidemic the government response was to open more prisons and hire more police, not assist with treatment. The double standard has existed forever. Lets also not forget that, per capita, there are more white people dependent on government assistance than any other demographic. Socialism for them, capitalism for the rest.
>>398563America was founded as a welfare program for the aristocratic cavaliers who lost their asses to the roundheads and had nowhere else to go. When the cavaliers' indentured servants rebeled, the cavaliers replaced their service with imported black slaves, and thats how America got started.
>>397664most farms aren't owned by ma&pa, they're owned by multinational groups
>>397205Major Major's father was a sober God-fearing man whose idea of agood joke was to lie about his age. He was a long-limbed farmer, a God-fearing, freedom-loving, law-abiding rugged individualist who held that federal aid to anyone but farmers was creeping socialism. He advocated thrift and hard work and disapproved of loose women who turned him down. His specialty was alfalfa, and he made a good thing out of not growing any. The government paid him well for every bushel of alfalfa he did not grow. The more alfalfa he did not grow, the more money the government gave him, and he spent every penny he didn't earn on new land to increase the amount of alfalfa he did not produce. Major Major's father worked without rest at not growing alfalfa. On long winter evenings he remained indoors and did not mend harness, and he sprang out of bed at the crack of noon every day just to make certain that the chores would not be done. He invested in land wisely and soon was not growing more alfalfa than any other man in the county. Neighbors sought him out for advice on all subjects, for he had made much money and was therefore wise. “As ye sow, so shall ye reap,” he counseled one and all, and everyone said, “Amen.
>>398265? What imaginary party are you talking about none of them want white men extinct dont be so delusional. This is why you are so easy to manipulate
>>398265imagine being so fragile that seeing a twitter or tumblr post makes you become a white nationalist
>>398459Thissoy is alright, same with corn and milk, but adding that to fucking every processed food because the prices are artificially low is gay as hell. We should cut out most of this kind of aid and only intervene in the worst of circumstances.
>>398807The Aneristic Principle is that of apparent order; the Eristic Principle is that of apparent disorder. Both order and disorder are man made concepts and are artificial divisions of pure chaos, which is a level deeper than is the level of distinction making.With our concept-making apparatus called "the brain" we look at reality through the ideas-about-reality which our cultures give us. The ideas-about-reality are mistakenly labeled "reality" and unenlightened people are forever perplexed by the fact that other people, especially other cultures, see "reality" differently.It is only the ideas-about-reality which differ. Real (capital-T) True reality is a level deeper than is the level of concept. We look at the world through windows on which have been drawn grids (concepts). Different philosophies use different grids. A culture is a group of people with rather similar grids. Through a window we view chaos, and relate it to the points on our grid, and thereby understand it. The order is in the grid. That is the Aneristic Principle.Western philosophy is traditionally concerned with contrasting one grid with another grid, and amending grids in hopes of finding a perfect one that will account for all reality and will, hence, (say unenlightened westerners) be true. This is illusory; it is what we Erisians call the Aneristic Illusion. Some grids can be more useful than others, some more beautiful than others, some more pleasant than others, etc., but none can be more True than any other.Disorder is simply unrelated information viewed through some particular grid. But, like "relation", no-relation is a concept. Male, like female, is an idea about sex. To say that male-ness is "absence of female-ness", or vice versa, is a matter of definition and metaphysically arbitrary. The artificial concept of no-relation is the Eristic Principle.
The belief that "order is true" and disorder is false or somehow wrong, is the Aneristic Illusion. To say the same of disorder, is the Eristic Illusion. The point is that (little-t) truth is a matter of definition relative to the grid one is using at the moment, and that (capital-T) Truth, metaphysical reality, is irrelevant to grids entirely. Pick a grid, and through it some chaos appears ordered and some appears disordered. Pick another grid, and the same chaos will appear differently ordered and disordered.Reality is the original Rorschach. Verily! So much for all that.
>>398856Soy produces DOUBLE the protein of any other vegetable crop on earth.You can't really argue against soy and I'm tired of cuckservatives trying to paint some faux picture on unnecessary government subsidies when in fact soy is crucial to populations of scale in the future.
>>398692This is false. 97 percent of the 2.1 million farms in the USA are family owned.
>>402689Soy causes bitch tits, and bean protein is poorly utilized by humans.
>>402692>poorly utilizedExplain without googling, and if you google cite a source.
>>402692Being a fat tub of lard causes bitchtits Cletus, if you ate soy instead of estrogen enriched cow meat you'd lose your tits quickly. Funny how the skinny Asians who eat all the soy have less tits than the Americans who complain about it.Inb4 diabetes ridden brain attempts to force connections where there are none
>>402692Even if you only absorbed a tenth of the protein in soy, it doesn't matter simply due to the quantity.
>>398856I just want people to stop growing wet crops in dry places.Also to bring down Monsanto, but we gotta be realistic here.
>>402729Yes, all those Midwestern farmers are going to up and leave their pappy and grandpappy's land because it makes internet loser happy. Go pray for a socialistic buyout like the rest.
>>402730>People should stop being stupid and enabling corporations>NO, WE MUST DO IT TO OWN THE LIBS.
>>402730They will just go out of business like all the other obstinate retards throughout history.
>>402733American car manufacturers and banks got bailed out by the government instead of being allowed to go away as per muh free market. I don't know whether that was a good or bad thing in the grand scheme of things, but it means obstinate retards will not necessarily fail.Also Monsanto is cartoon evil at this point.
Remember that the endgame of communism is the complete destabilization of the country. Having no food on the shelves is one of the cornerstones of communism. The breadlines are how the elite, like Bernie and Warren, keep their power.
>>402738I think you are confusing the adoption of socialist policies in a capitalist system with communism.
>>397205It's either this, or vote for a party that hates whites, rural folk and men.Lesser of two evils.
>>402745>Lesser of two evils.You know that attitude got America to where it is today, right? I don’t get why people must choose between two evils at all, merely taking one in place of the other.
>>402740Communism is socialist in nature, so no.
>>402759System was flawed by design. The founders put in a lot of safe guards, but system still heavily relies on altruism. The Democrat party is fractured, but the Republican party is what really suffers. It really should be about four different parties.Most of the libertarian party votes with the Republicans, despite having only a few issues in common. There is also a large number of non religious Republicans that are forced to go against things they actually agree with, such as abortion. Most people are centrists, but they vote straight single party based on a few issues they care about and no party gives them a middle ground
Farmers have been subsidized in the US since 1820. First they were given land just to farm, then price supports since 1921. This is nothing new.
>>402760goddamn when I'm dealing with someone perched in his seat, ready for the gun to sound just to prove they are the biggest idiot in the room by recycling this long disproven trope, I get a sense of partisanship. Socialism is seizing the means of production. Social programs are providing laborers with windfalls and safety nets so capitalism doesn't go on unchecked til it becomes the Republican Feudal State right leaning billionaires so desperately want.
>>402841Communism is socialist in practice because it inevitably fails once it reaches that stage. Socialism emphasizes greater government control over the private sector and a redistribution of wealth, which is what your last sentence describes.
>>402841Socialism is capitalism centralized into the federal government. It is a complete lie that workers share ownership under socialism. You just change it hands from one set of billionaires to another. It's why real communism has never been tried and never will.
>>402840This is the real truth.Since a globally connected marketplace was possible (i.e., mass haulage via ship route) farms have been subsidized. It's part of that altruism our society apparently lacks, as said by some anon above.We suffer a bit so the tomato farmer in Chile can have a better life for their kids.Everything else going on in this thread can be ignored.I don't need to watch mental midgets confuse and craft always-new meanings for socialism, communism, and whatever else is the bullshit of the generation.