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Trump wants to dump the illegals into sanctuary cities

President Donald Trump said Friday he is "giving very strong consideration" to a plan to bus detained immigrants to so-called sanctuary cities as a way to retaliate against Democrats.

"We'll bring them to sanctuary city areas and let that particular area take care of it," Trump told reporters at the White House. "They say we have open arms, they're always saying they have open arms, let's see if they have open arms."

The president also said he would send more troops to the border and painted the growing number of asylum seekers seeking refuge in the U.S. — many of them families with young children who cannot be imprisoned for a long period of time under current law — as a security problem.

he president said he was weighing the idea because Democrats had blocked his efforts to change the country's "very dangerous immigration laws."

The president's statement came after a former Department of Homeland Security official said the plan, first reported by The Washington Post on Thursday night, was ultimately scrapped when it was determined to be "so illegal." A White House official who confirmed the broad outlines of the proposal Friday morning pushed back on the idea that it was meant as retaliation toward political rivals, however, calling that "absolutely ridiculous."

The official insisted the White House had never pressured Immigration and Customs Enforcement to put the plan in motion, but simply floated it to officials at the agency.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/white-house-considered-dumping-migrants-sanctuary-cities-n993701
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>>380660
I see nothing wrong, it really seems like an "everyone wins" type solution.
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>>380665
>Highly illegal
This is why Trump was investigated for 2yrs.he acts like a criminal.
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>>380660
>to dump the illegals
That's an incredibly racist statement
Illegals are not "garbage" to be dumped.
When are CNN and NBC going to retract these headlines?
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>>380666
It would be illegal to detain them. He is just putting them somewhere safe and humane before their court dates.
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>>380666
And when a Refugee camp of Somalis was moved from Kenya to Lewiston, Maine, was that illegal?
How about in United States v. Texas, where there was an injunction.
https://cis.org/Feere/5th-Circuit-Upholds-Injunction-Obamas-Amnesty
Obama's administration just ignored that injunction, and continued to enact DACA. Is that not "acting like a criminal"?
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>>380670
Not him but one of your presidents did an unconstitutional thing and not a single court ruled it as such?
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>>380672
What do you mean?
Not sure what you are saying
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>>380660
>A White House official who confirmed the broad outlines of the proposal Friday morning pushed back on the idea that it was meant as retaliation toward political rivals, however, calling that "absolutely ridiculous."
How in the fuck... Just admit it.
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>>380681
I dunno what he's retaliating against Democrats passed the same exact border security package in the last appropriations bill as the prior one passed by the Republican house.
We already offered him the full 25B$ he was initially asking for the border barrier in exchange for DACA and he turned it down.
Sanctuary cities aren't letting more illegal migrants into the country, we're just not using local law enforcement to enforce immigration because that's not their job and we want everyone to actively cooperate with and volunteer information to local police.
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The best and most permanent solution to illegal immigration is to crack down on employers. That's unlikely to happen because illegal immigration, like abortion, is a great wedge issue; it's good to do all sorts of symbolic shit and make temporary changes here and there to make it look like something is done. The optics of a border barrier are good because it's so tangible. In reality it's probably more cost effective with respect to border security to just invest most of the installation and maintenance costs toward patrols and drones along most of the length of the border.
And secondly, most Republicans are averse to doing anything that places any burden on folks who donate to them.
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>>380660
If sanctuary cities are expected to solely care for detained immigrants, does that mean they get to set all policy for borders now?
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It is time to put Brennan and Obama on suicide watch. Make sure they don't get away as easily as McCain
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>>380685
>crack down on employers.
Like Trump
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>>380683
you've made it illegal for local authorities to cooperate with ICE and forbade them from sharing information with federal agencies voluntarily or otherwise
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>>380673
I think he believes the rule of law still exists in the US or something, silly i know.
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>>380742
some do, but our current administration likes to hurt as many people as possible while changing the laws and stacking the courts
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>>380660
But wasn't that where they would go anyway? Isnt it just the same as not doing anything?
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>>380660
>sanctuary cities! more refugees!
>okay here you go
>NO, WAIT-

Unending amusement. Reap what you sew, leftists.
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Translation: Trump offers free bus rides to America for illegal immigrants who make it to the border.
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>>380786
The problem isn't the refugees. The problem is simply that the President doesn't have the legal authority to do that, but Trump wants to anyway. If Trump gets to just ignore the law, then what does that make the United States? Here I thought conservatives were supposed to like rule of law, but apparently that goes right out the window when it comes to taking more power for themselves.
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>>380670
US v Texas covered DAPA, which was stopped, not DACA. They're different programs.
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>>380800
Illegals all deserve helicopter rides.
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Reminder that before this "president" took office illegal immigration had reached its lowest levels in a decade. Trump's policies have only made more people cross the border.
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Can someone explain why Trump doesn't have power to have them moved to santurary cites on record? If Texas can spend time and resources housing them, surely these places can?

After all, he'd just be telling ICE and customs to buy hotels/space in said cities.
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Imagine rejecting a "gift of love".

Very bad optics
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>>380666
Would putting them back in the middle of the desert be legal? I bet if asked to be dropped off in a sanctuary City would be ok to those detained they would be ok with it.
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>>380667
They are trash. No one wants them here expect for sanctuary cities. So why not dump them there
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If he tells the states before hand and gives them time to prepare then yeah, this seems like a win/win solution for everybody. More locations to house and monitor aliens, and gauranteed court dates to determine asylum seekers from illegals, so we can send them back when appropriate. Worst case scenario, even after the preparation the cities aren't equpped to handle the influx and they have to eat crow for making the same mistake as ICE.

I guess the controversy here is if he's planning to tell the states and give them time or not, and judging by his rhetoric I don't think he is. If this is just using people, and causing more chaos and misery to get back at people who told him no, then this is a new low for this guy who has never had the tempermant or moral fortitude to lead a democratic country with laws. Once again, I guess we'll see of America is actually that country. I'm not getting my hopes up.
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>>380817
Honestly I'm not sure, makes really good sense in theory. Simply move them to the states that want them problem solved
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>>380817
Because the president is not a king
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>>380863
Yeah we all know that.
I think he was wondering what sort of law this violates
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>>380865
Volates showing that Democrats really dont want them either
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>>380863
No but he is the leader of the US of A and makes choices for us all weather we like it or not.

He may not be able to kick everyone out that cross our boarders due to international law, but there doesn't seem to be any good reason why he can't dictate to ICE staff where containment and processing faculties should be. Hell he already did it before by fucking over the FBI and their plans to move.

If anything, it actually makes sense because illegals no longer have to fear getting abused in a Sanc city since they can talk to cops without fear there.
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>>380660
>>380858
>>380889

in my city they bring buses to the affordable housing projects and bus people to the polls on election day.
they vote democrat in most occasions; Its probably the same in most major cities.

there are higher rates of mental illness in those locations as well
this is why its important.


https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/styles/thumb_small_article/public/trump_map_tweet.png

http://static5.businessinsider.com/image/5256f3e76bb3f7c62bb9fab7-550-412/mental-health-map-cdc.jpg
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>>380890
I'm not sure what you're trying to get at. They aren't going to magically be able to vote once they get to a Sanc city. If anything Repubs would be more likely to attempt some sort of fraud scam if last year is anything to go by.

Busing the poor so that they can exercise their voting right is legal and one of the few good services that needs to continue.

Mentally ill mostly crowding poor areas makes sense, after all the mental care faculties in this country is fucked. Furthermore there is nothing that says crazies can't vote so long as they did their paperwork. If we can elect presidents with 0 health tests and qualifications, can't see why a nutter throwing away a vote to get decided by the electoral is a big deal.
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>>380691
States rights
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>>380686
Sure man, whatever. We'll hammer out the details later. Just take the illegals now.
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Trump is going to bring illegals into our country? Lol. This really worked out /pol/. The big R love cheap labor.
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>>380863
and illegal aliens aren't legal immigrants
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>>380665
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>>380801
>The problem isn't the refugees.
It clearly is, but please continue deflecting.

>The problem is simply that the President doesn't have the legal authority to do that
Yes he does. He even has implicit sanction from the cities by their self-proclaimed nature of being sanctuary cities.

Cry more before your new neighbors get all moved in!
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>>380949
>refugees
What are they seeking refuge from? Slightly lower wages in Mexico? Nice weather and beaches? Fresh fruit year round? Is it those punishing siestas that drive Mexicans to seek refuge in America? Why do they feel entitled to come here?
Because whitey is evil so we owe them something?
Why should I be willing to accept lower wages and increased competition finding jobs just so some foreigner can "seek refuge" from pushing a mower on a golf course for $4/hr in Mexico instead of $8 in AZ?
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>>380953
>What are they seeking refuge from?

From organized crimal gangs. Thats the narrative anyway.
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>>380953
>Why do they feel entitled to come here?
Because Democrats said so.
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>>380953
If your country is a shithole (such as Mexico), every single person in that country is entitled to be a refugee.
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>>380890
>people with mental illness are less likely to be able to work or hold more than a minimum wage job at best, meaning they end up in low-income areas along with people who dont have a foothold in the country nor eligible education or training for more than minimum wage jobs, assuming they dont work under the table for less
who would have though
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>>380932
they can be. when seeking asylum, it doesnt matter whether they entered the country legally or not

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asylum_in_the_United_States
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Based Chicago calling his bluff do it pussy
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>>380666
trips of hell
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>>380953
>What are they seeking refuge from?
Other Hispanics and central Americans
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Fuck, I wish trump was my president.
Just doing "exactly what they wanted", no more no less. He's solving the problem and telling democrats to fuck off. I understand most people think he's a retard but he's a retard that gets shit done.
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I actually support the President on this one. Democratic/Progressive cities have openly sworn to protect anyone, even if they have no citizenship. They threw open the doors to their homes and placed a giant WELCOME sign on the lawn. If the progressives can handle it without screwing over other Americans, they'd set an example and prove that the right was being wrong.
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>>381037
I dont get your logic. He plans to bring tons of illegals into our country? Isnt that the opposite of what he promised? Non sanctuary states would have trouble competing and job markets everywhere would become terrible. This would not just effect sanctuary cities.

Think for one second. Why would Trump want to lower the value of workers in ANY part of America. Stop thinking of this as a 'fuck you' to liberals, and start thinking of this as ACTUAL POLICY.

The fuck you part isnt a law. The only real part is him bringing in millions of immigrants into our country. A wet dream for billionaires. Anyone who supports this shit flinging is a cuck.
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If it gets bad enough the illegals will just leave
What's stopping them from leaving anyway?
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>>381059
Have you not been paying attention while in this board? Democrats, activists, and even other RNC members have been quick to block him on every attempt. This nation has funded so many expensive projects that should have bankrupted us decades ago, what's one more project that can actually alleviate a problem over just filling someone else's pockets?
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>>381061
if got arrested for illegal immigration and then they left before they were deported that would mean that they skipped out on a court date, which would be a crime.
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>>380660
Without a doubt this is hands down one of the best policies that trump has come up with
I really hope it can get implemented
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>>380660
Release them.to Canada. Free health care.
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>>380691
Maybe if ICE could stop arresting american citizens they would not have such a bad reputation.
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They should agree to it if it means the refugees gets the rights of citizens and to vote.
And then have them move out Republican counties so Democrats can control more in those states.
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>>381037
>he's a retard that gets shit done.
How, he rants and raves about ending illegal immigration but is now literally giving illegal immigrants tickets to major US cities
That's a full on reversal of what he pledged to do
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>>380660
absolute masterstroke
>Illegal immigrants dindoo, they're victims of society, whit people are evil
>Okay, you want your illegals, have them. All dem cities are now immigrant free for alls
>HOW FUCKING DARE YOU WEAPONISE IMMIGRANTS FOR YOUR AGENDA! NOW THE CRIME RATES ARE THROUGH THE ROOF
>What's wrong, I thought you liked them, you made your bed, don't like it when it's happening on your nimby doorsteps.
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All I have to say to this as a liberal is: do et faget!
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>>381092
So is illegal immigration though
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>>381270
Are you graduating sixth grade in June? You know you have to be 18 to post on this website.
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>>381260
he needs to put them somewhere. Better to shove them all into one place than let them wander around the country
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>>380811
Of fixing the economy that Obama sat on, and had the slowest recovery to a recession ever?
Yes. He did.
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>>380863
Doesn't the president have incredible latitude when it comes to issues of immigration and foreign policy?
Isn't that how DACA was a thing?
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I assume dumping the illegals into sanctuary cities means that government workers are gonna be rounding them up and taking them there right? At that point if you already have the illegals in your poesession why not just escort them OUT of the country? Isn't that what you were elected to do in the first place? Keep them out? This just seems like petty political payback more than anything else.
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>>381322
Nope. They're claiming asylum, so we have to process their claim.
If they're with kids, we can't keep kids in jail, and can't separate families at the border.
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>>380660
>It's actually urban liberals who get replaced by mexicans, and everyone else lives happily ever after
lol, really enjoying this twist
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>>381322
but then the 1% cant undercut more American labor. We already know where the illegals are. Where they live, what there names are. We keep them here as a slave class. America is a country with no morals.

>>381270
If it's such a fucking masterstroke then why havent democrats been trying to pass this action? This is Trump trolling your poor education and nothing else.

Fact is, Democrats are more moderate than you believe, and are not actually for any claptrap like open borders or mass immigration. They are for immigration reforms for sure of various kinds. But Republicans stance on immigrants for many years has been keep them in the country as slave labor (full control of gov and no major increase in deportation- just a few rounds for show). Democrats want to give immigrants more rights so that they can negotiate better wages and hopefully attract Americans back into job markets which have vanished into a pit of absurdly low wages. Id rather just kick em out, but Democrats are functionally more anti-immigrant than republicans are. Which is hilarious to me.
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>>380686
No but it means all immigrants bussed to these cities by the government will all be considered legal immigrants.
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>>381314
>one place
There are multiple cities through out the country
He's basically shipping around cheap labor that will compete economically directly with low class whites
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>>381328
The dems could really fuck up republican potemkin toughness on immigration by proposing legislation to screw over companies who hire illegals so they can avoid labor protection laws and/or pay below minimum wage. It'd be entertaining to watch the kochsuckers try to argue against it without losing their base, although most likely what'd happen is that the press would do everything they could to stop anyone hearing about the bill.
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>>381383
>The dems could really fuck up republican potemkin toughness on immigration by proposing legislation to screw over companies who hire illegals
And yet they have never even tried this
Hmm..
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>>381384
Get's shut down by Republicans and corporate democrats.
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>>381385
>corporate democrats
No need to repeat yourself.
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>>381383
If we want to talk about potempkinisms we should discuss the Democrat virtue signaling of wanting illegal immigrants, but when given the opportunity to take All of the illegal immigrants they decline
They don't want them in their States, they want them in red States
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>>381392
> They don't want them in their States, they want them in red States
First, this isn't even true. Half the states along the Mexican border are blue.

Second, the problem with dumping all the immigrants in Pelosi's house district isn't that they're immigrants, the problem is that the President simply doesn't have the legal authority to direct CBP to dump all of their detainees in a specific house district for political reasons. I know that Republicans don't give a shit about laws when they might stop Trump from doing whatever he wants, but the rest of us still do. You might be okay with Trump ordering people to break the law and assuring them he'll pardon them, but the rest of us aren't.
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>>381418
How does he not have the legal authority?
The president has a great deal of latitude when it comes to dealing with immigration, that's how DACA was a thing. Where illlegal immigrants are bussed to while their claims are being processed is within the scope of the executive branch.
If you could point at some law that this was violating that would be useful
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>>381392
So why doesn't he legalize them first? You do know what the democrat immigration platform is right?
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>>381318
>Of fixing the economy that Obama sat on, and had the slowest recovery to a recession ever?
It was also the largest recession since the Great Depression and that was helped along by deficit spending on economic and social programs and eventually WWII manufacturing.
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>>381260
Kinda like Obama and how he changed course after being blocked on closing GITMO? Grow up kid.
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>>381460
>that was helped along by deficit spending on economic and social programs
This was debunked, all economic study basically shows the government did everything in it's power to make the depression worse through attempts at trying to mitigate it.
http://newsroom.ucla.edu/releases/FDR-s-Policies-Prolonged-Depression-5409
https://fee.org/articles/fdrs-folly-how-roosevelt-and-his-new-deal-prolonged-the-great-depression/
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>>381418
>the problem is that the President simply doesn't have the legal authority to direct CBP to dump all of their detainees in a specific house district for political reasons.
Yes he does- they are self-proclaimed sanctuary cities, they've already consented to receiving them.

>I know that Republicans don't give a shit about laws when they might stop Trump from doing whatever he wants, but the rest of us still do. You might be okay with Trump ordering people to break the law and assuring them he'll pardon them, but the rest of us aren't.
>You might be okay with Trump ordering people to break the law and assuring them he'll pardon them, but the rest of us aren't.
LOL, no you don't/aren't.
You're a team blue sycophant through and through, "questioning the president" was a dirty thing only 'racist anarchist terrorists' did for 8 years while your golden calf was in office.
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>>380660
Tbqh this is probably Trump's best idea so far this year
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>>381467
"By adjusting for annual increases in productivity, they were able to use the 1929 benchmark to figure out what prices and wages would have been during every year of the Depression had Roosevelt's policies not gone into effect"

Lol. Nice hypothetical bullshit. The prices and productivity would NOT be the same without Roosevelts politics.
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>>381477
>Lol. Nice hypothetical bullshit
Feel free to present evidence that counters or debunked what's been presented.

>The prices and productivity would NOT be the same without Roosevelts politics
>[citation needed]

Or, keep on being a pissbaby. Your choice.
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>>381478
By my numbers, if the government just stayed out of the way, every red blooded American would have a trillion dollars and 3 states worth of land!
Given I used the same benchmark and just as much work to "figure out" this, they must simultaneously be true statements! Plus, you don't have anything debunking me, as neither me nor they claim mutual exclusivity!

This isn't an argument.
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>>381481
>By my numbers
What numbers, pissbaby? Show examples.

>This isn't an argument.
Yes it is, pissbaby. Cry more about it while you continue to beat your chest to distract from not actually addressing any of my points or evidence.
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>>381482
>What numbers
The Reals. Examples include 1, 0, -1, 2.5, 8x10^70, etc.
You've probably learned them in school, I hope.
>not actually addressing any of my points or evidence.
I addressed it pretty clearly. Is there a specific part if my post you are confused with? I explained what numbers are used, hopefully that helps.
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>>381483
>The Reals.
Oh I see, you're trying to safe face and be funny to deflect from the fact that you can't argue against the evidence I've provided that debunked your original argument. Nice, epic.

>I addressed it pretty clearly.
No, you didn't. I understand why you think you did though. My condolences.

>Is there a specific part if my post you are confused with? I explained what numbers are used, hopefully that helps.
Confused? No. You're just acting like a butthurt idiot clown in place of presenting a counter argument and hoping no one notices.
It's a real shame your parents never had any children that survived.
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>>381486
So all that takes to debunk something is to throw insults?
In that case
>>381467
is a poopyhead source.
There, debunked. Have another source you want to try and put forward?
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>>381490
>hurr durr I'm retarded
>fuck off retard
>HAHA YESS GOT'EM
Have fun in your piss, pissbaby
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>>381460
Why was it the largest recession?
Because of the way it was handled
The reason the Coolidge depression and the one under Harding were known as forgotten Depression. Because of instead of the government making stupid investments, it was laissez faire and allowed the market to fix itself.
Did you miss how FDR burned fields of wheat, set price controls on wheat so you had people starving and good grain thrown away?
Did you miss how Obama paid for people to get free golf carts, and destroyed perfectly good cars to stimulate the economy?
https://youtu.be/wj2cD8Q5hS8
It's like breaking windows to stimulate the glass making economy. Awful
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>market fucks up
>eh, we'll let it all go and just let people suffer cause they aren't me
>government fucks up
>WE MUST STOP THE GOVERNMENT FROM INTERFERING IN ANYTHING!!
I feel like there should be some kind of middle ground here, but apparently that makes me a damn dirty commie.
Like Jesus.
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>>381514
Okay. How do we prevent people from suffering?
What are the second and third order effects of those programs?
As an example. Single mothers need the most help as they have the most mouths to feed and least income.
https://youtu.be/ePCt9OQlleU
We don't want them to suffer so we give them more money. The more kids the more money you get.
The second and third order effects are that you break up black families. You tell mothers you can get so much money, so long as the father of your children is out of the picture. And so you end up with a single motherhood rate of 14% in the 1940s and 50s. Now the single motherhood rate is 73% for black women. Many of them made the calculation they could get more from the government, then from the father of their children and so they made that choice for a better life for their kids. The incentives of not wanting people to suffer has resulted in a majority of black children not to know their father.
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>>381514
Did Jesus say render 70-90% of your income to Caesar so he can give that to the poor?
Or did he advocate personal charity, as opposed to money collected by threat of violence like government tax revenue.
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>>381521
Not keeping families reliant on corporations could be one step.
We could try looking at what does work in other countries, where family is part if life instead of a detriment to working your life away.
>>381523
He said something about giving to caesar what is caeser's. So it seems to lean more towards giving every single cent back to the government. When dealing with each other, as shown with fish and loaves, no money should be involved at all.
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>>381523
Personal charity doesn't work. The state of welfare in the late industrial revolution was so apocalyptically bad it inspired Marx to write the Communist Manifesto. Civilizaed nations were only able to avoid the worker uprising by instituting social welfare and wage/labor laws themselves, defying the Marxist model of a society that exist exclusively to perpetuate the rich.

We could use a bit more of that now - that commie-crushing reform that proves western democracy really is the way to go.
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>>381531
He said pay your taxes. He didn't say give all your money to the government. He didn't advocate high or low taxes. He advocated private charity.
As for stopping people from being reliant on corporations, the best way to do that would allow it to be easier to work for yourself. Like. Hong Kong
https://youtu.be/N3nSukhQZO8
https://youtu.be/8Isa59wlS5E
In Hong Kong you can start a business license in a day. They streamlined the process and got rid of regulation, so you're not relying on a corporation, you can start a business tomorrow
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>>381537
I'm glad you shared your wisdom with us. You're more knowledgeable then the son of God Jesus Christ himself. That's quite impressive.
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>>380660
I think this is a pretty good idea, but given the headline I'm still a little disappointed
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>>381543
He did say to give away all your earthly possessions. So that coupled with the previous gets us to the conclusion.
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>>381545
Jesus died, was resurrected, and then ascended to heaven two millennia ago. If we had stuck perfectly to his guns, all of Europe and possibly America would be communist by now. Organized welfare is the modern solution for the modern problem of economic destitution. Without it, you get bread riots. Yannow, the kind of uprising that kills a nation.
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>>381545
It's disappointing people take platitudes from mega church priests over the supposed savior.
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>>381543
>He said pay your taxes.
And the government is the entity that decides how much you get taxed. If you don't like that, well, then you're not paying your taxes and Jesus hates you.

"It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."
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>>381595
>He did say to give away all your earthly possessions
Substantiate
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>>381595
Did he say that the state should rob you of all earthly possessions by threat of force?
Or you to give them up willingly?
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>>381608
Sure.
He didn't advocate high or low taxes. He didn't talk about taxes. He talked about the importance of private charity. He didn't say that the government should take away 70-90% of your income at a marginal rate. He advocated you to give it away yourself.
There's no charity when the government points a gun at you and says give us your money so we can give it to our political allies, otherwise we will send men with guns to your home and throw you in a hole. Charity comes from doing it of your own free will.
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>>381618
Neither. This threads filling with facebook tier blasphemy using out of context lines to twist the word of God towards what they personally wish to be true.
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>>381629
I didn't bring up Jesus. He did.
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>>381629
>out of context lines
The Protestant Reformation got started because people decided to read the Bible for themselves instead of allowing corrupt priests to interpret it for them.

If you can't deal with people reading the Bible you probably shouldn't consider yourself a Christian at all.
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>>381636
Im just here for clarification. To cite Christ as a reason to make you give up everything and anything you own is either a woefully poor understanding of scripture or someone that intentionally misrepresents the passages those lines are quoted from. The oldest form of false prophets and their prophesy in Judaism and Christianity is to hone in on words in the verse instead of the verses in whole chapter.
>Jesus says give up all of your possesions!
This is a common heresy that comes from reading a verse in Matthew 19:16-26 instead of its whole passage. Its a lesson on keeping the first commandment, not a command to live a life of poverty.
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>>381644
>The Protestant Reformation got started because people decided to read the Bible for themselves instead of allowing corrupt priests to interpret it for them.

dumbfuck the shit started by a fuck who wanted to reform catholic church and ended by local corrupt fucks dumping whole Europe into fucking 30 years war which literally decimated up to 1/6 of Europe's population.
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>>381648
So tell us what Jesus ACTUALLY meant when he told the man to sell all his possessions and give to the poor.
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>>381059
He's currently detaining aliens that cross illegally, a good thing. If he's eventually forbidden from doing that, shipping the aliens to the places that want them is the next best thing.
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>>381037
Getting shit done doesn't mean jack if its done half assed. Its like if you need to move stuff out of your kitchen, smashing the plates might be faster but it sure as hell isn't the right way.

That said, I actually agree with this plan. Immigration has been a crisis in the making that the politicians have been playing political football with for decades. Its not going to change unless EVERYONE in the country feels in the pain residents on the boarder do when random strangers trample through their yards at night.
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>>381322
Because they aren't illegal. Vast majority of them migrate from some shit hole south of the boarder, run into the arms of a boarder agent, and then claim asylum where the agent must then escort them into the US and process them. The US is obligated by international treaties to figure out if these people are legit or fake.

This whole process is convoluted in the mean time because immigration hasn't been reformed in almost a century and staffing is critically low.

>>381328
Both sides want to pander to the companies and the continuous flow of slave labor. We saw the exact same shit go down with H1B1s taking tech jobs. Dems just take a softer approach to immigration as they need minority votes but at the same time can't have them be uppity.
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>>381959
There's also the fact that the percentage of asylum seekers whose claims are denied has risen since 2016 to become the significant majority, about 2 out of 3. And the highest denial rates by far are from South American countries, with Mexican asylum cases topping the chart at 90% denied. Meanwhile Ethiopians seeking asylum are denied less than 20% of the time. This indicates, but does not necessarily conclude, that much of the recent increase in South American asylum-seeking is illegitimate. So I agree with detaining asylum seekers that illegally cross the Mexican border and surrender to border patrol.
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>>381309
Technically no. It's a civil infraction which is more akin to speeding or running a stop sign.
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>>380666
Aren't sanctuary cities highly illlegal?
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>>380660
>Trump wants to dump the illegals into sanctuary cities
Phila. is one of those cities and I'll guarantee the niggers will start killing them off, right away.
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>>382245
Do you get thrown in a detention center for speeding?
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>>382245
If you go 20 MPH over the speed limit, it's considered reckless driving and you'll be arrested and placed in jail.
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>>382313
Going 20mph over the speed limit is a felony
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>>380667
>Illegals are not "garbage" to be dumped.
lol
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>>382313
I drove 26 miles over the speed limit and all I got was a fine....and yes it was a reckless driving charge.
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>>382911
I went 23 mph over the speed limit, and I got off with a warning. Had to blow the cop though.
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>>381897
>Man asks Jesus what is good
>Jesus tells him to name the commandments
>man names the commandments and says he keeps them all
>Jesus asks if he is sure about that and says sell all of your possesions and follow me
>Man walks away sad because he was very wealthy and wanted to stay that way
>Jesus tells his disciples that the only way into heaven is through him and that rich men will have the hardest time understanding that
If the man were adulterous Jesus would have told him to cut his cock off. If he were covetous of his neighbors stuff he would have told him to gouge his eyes out. The point is not that you need to live in poverty, its that you cant let money (or anything) become a replacement for God.
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Isn't this plan literally,
>I can't do anything because they won't agree with me
> Democrats usually have charge in sanctuaries cities, might as well send em there now since they seem to really want illegals there.
Problem with that is how you still might get the "bad ones" mixed in when sending them. Doesn't make the situation better since it might make the economy potentially worse. And that kind of goes against his original plan although it's understandable why.
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>>380666
and in the end he was exonerated.
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>>380666
>Highly illegal
False.
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>>380683
>we're just not using local law enforcement to enforce immigration because that's not their job and we want everyone to actively cooperate with and volunteer information to local police.
actually that is their job.
Sanctuary cities are enabling illegal immigration.
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>>380901
national security is not a states rights issue. Supreme court already ruled as such. Sorry.
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>>380755
>but our current administration likes to hurt as many people as possible while changing the laws and stacking the courts
Spoken like a true liberal idiot.

The news story shows that Obama was doing exactly what you accuse trump of.
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>>383978
According to the Supreme Court, the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution forbids the federal government to require local officials to enforce federal law.
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>>380848
The left want these illegals they can have them. The left uses these people it's Trump that wants to deal with the problem.
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>>380811
Bullshit that would be the democrats and their migrant appeasement. They sabotage our President and the job of trying to defend the border. Lefties like you are a literal fifth column.

>>380801
>The problem is simply that the President doesn't have the legal authority to do that
Actually he does have the authority.
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>>380982
They don't have a right to claim asylum.
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>>380949
They aren't refugees. They are illegal migrants.



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