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https://www.kusi.com/cnn-requests-kusi-for-local-view-on-the-border-declines-our-reporter-after-finding-out-wall-works/
SAN DIEGO (KUSI) – Thursday morning, CNN called the KUSI Newsroom asking if one of our reporters could give them a local view of the debate surrounding the border wall and government shutdown.

We believe CNN declined a report from KUSI because we informed them that most Border Patrol Agents we have spoken to told us the barrier does in fact work.

We have continuously been told by Border Patrol Agents that the barrier along the Southern border helps prevent illegal entries, drugs, and weapons from entering the United States, and the numbers prove it.
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Daily reminder CNN is a cable tv entertainment channel, not even registered with the FCC.
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No one actually believes barriers don't work. That is just something a flailing retard would say.
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>>338500
>drugs
lol
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Stupid Drumpfkins, all the starving women and children are now bringing professional grade cordless angle grinders with them. Walls don't work, we are just gonna cut them down!
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>>338504
Instead of trying to hinder the supply of drugs, we should continue to "treat the addicts". It's the only way.
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>>338506
Nah I'm laughing because these idiots think a wall will stop drugs from coming into the US.
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>>338511
Wew
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>>338511
>If an idea doesn't 100% solve the problem by itself it doesn't have merit
Hmm
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>>338505
>Walls don't work
Let's assume that thousands of years of history are wrong and you're right. What DOES work?
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>>338529
Mobile assets. WW2 taught us this. Hell, WW1 did too right at the very end when they finally broke the stalemate. A flexible defense is better than a rigid one.
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>>338526
More like it won't affect drug flow in any kind of way.
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>>338526
>cartels have tunnels, planes, boats, and even fucking submarines
>thinking they give a shit about a wall

What's even more telling is that they'd rather use those methods than going around the exiting fencing and walls, meaning completing a coast-to-coast wall will do literally nothing to stop drugs.
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>>338526
The vast majority of illegal drugs are smuggled in through legal ports of entry, and for the remaining the cartels have tunnels, ladders, and those cheap quad copter drones. A wall will do absolutely nothing to stop drugs flowing in through ports of entry, and the cost to the cartels of circumventing a wall would only be a blip in their expenses. The wall will be a massive waste.

https://www.apnews.com/3bf581a53684440b92121bb1b8ae43a9
> The Drug Enforcement Administration says “only a small percentage” of heroin seized by U.S. authorities comes across on territory between ports of entry. The same is true of drugs generally.
> In a 2018 report , the agency said the most common trafficking technique by transnational criminal organizations is to hide drugs in passenger vehicles or tractor-trailers as they drive into the U.S. though entry ports, where they are stopped and subject to inspection. They also employ buses, cargo trains and tunnels, the report says, citing other smuggling methods that also would not be choked off by a border wall.
Here's the official DEA report:
https://www.dea.gov/sites/default/files/2018-11/DIR-032-18%202018%20NDTA%20%5Bfinal%5D%20low%20resolution11-20.pdf
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>>338530
>WW2
>WW1
So overwhelming, coordinated fire and trenches. Okay. I wonder if that angle grinder can cut through 5.56.
>flexible defense is better than a rigid one
Right. That's how Berlin was kept partitioned for fifty years. Roving patrol cars making infrequent arrests.
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>>338530
"fixed fortifications are a monument to the stupidity of man"

god bless patton
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>>338536
> So overwhelming, coordinated fire and trenches.
In the final months of WW1, the trenches failed. Even the mighty Hindenburg line couldn't hold the Entente back once they had developed the tools and the tactics to defeat it.
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>>338540
>tools and the tactics to defeat it
Tanks and chemical weapons. You're right, this is just like the Mexican border!
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>>338541
Only the tools they need to breach the wall are ladders and saws. So really it's a lot easier to get through.
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>>338542
>breach the wall
When the Mexicans start employing these, will they finally be considered foreign invaders? Or will they still be helpless victims of dangerous political oppression seeking asylum?
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Why are we even talking about MORE money for a wall? The 2006 fencing still hasn't been fully built because of the court battles over government seizing property. Throwing more money at that will just end up with it backed up in court for years just like the previous attempts.
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>>338543
You can be the victim of the cartels while still being able to get over or through some steel bars. Having a simple saw is meaningless against people as powerful and well-funded as the cartels.
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>>338543
> When the Mexicans start employing these
They already do cut through the existing fencing sometimes, when there's enough wire at the top to make going through easier than going over.
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>>338545
>over or through some steel bars
So there's a physical barrier preventing entry and they destroy it to continue to advance across the border. Please tell me: at what point do they become foreign invaders? Do they need tanks? Uniforms? Carry a flag? What?
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>>338534
Yeah. Trump should have destroyed the CIA first before building the wal. You know, hang thr traitor first
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>>338547
> Please tell me: at what point do they become foreign invaders?
When they're some kind of military or paramilitary force actually attempting to attack the United States. Right now we're dealing with people who are just desperate enough to cut through some metal bars to try to get to somewhere a bit safer.
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>>338549
They should be prepared to face the consequences of breaking into another country.
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>>338550
Which, by the way, is a misdemeanor under US law.
Also, US law states that the validity of an asylum claim is not impacted by the method of entry.
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>>338549
>paramilitary force
What constitutes a paramilitary force?
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>>338549
>What constitutes an attack against the United States?
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>>338550
Seeking asylum is legal according to the UN Declarations of Human Rights, of which the US is a signatory. If anything, it's deporting asylum seekers which is illegal.
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>>338553
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paramilitary
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>>338551
wow, that's fucked up
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>>338502
it's not a question of whether a physical barrier can impede people.
The spending bill that was proposed by house democrats provisions for maintenance of border fencing, along with everything else that Republicans themselves provisioned for in the last spending bill in terms of border infrastructure.
The question is whether a concrete wall spanning the full length of the southern border is worth the installation and maintenance opportunity cost.

And most experts agree that it's unnecessary. Even if we increase the budget for just immigration enforcement by 10B$, the optimal provisioning of that money wouldn't be to spend it all on barriers.

Illegal border crossings constitute a minority of immigration law violations in our country, and the numbers of illegal crossings have been on decline for over a decade now.. Most illegal immigrants are here due to overstayed visas.
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>>338555
>the UN
are you going to bring up the League of Nations next? lmao
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>>338557
Like it or not, it's the law.
Of course, Trump doesn't give a shit about the law and neither do his supporters.
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>>338561
You got me. I don't support unjust laws.
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>>338563
That's good to hear. I hope you'll support asylum seekers and undocumented immigrants in achieving full legal status regardless of their current status going forward
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>>338566
lol no. They can fix their own country.
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>>338547
>You pissed off a cartel and they burned your daughter in a stack of tires. Now they want money you dont have or your other daughter gets it
>Its okay, its been 6 years since we applied to the US, but they will accept us any minute now

Oh yeah, Im sure you would refuse to "invade" the US in their situation, because your such a moral individual. We should set up turrets along the border and minefields to stop this threat to nationaly security.
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>>338610
If they didn't want to live in a hellhole then they shouldn't have turned their own country into a hellhole. They made their country what it is, and now instead of taking responsibility and trying to fix it they try to come here and make this country more like the hellhole they came from. Absolutely we should have minefields and troops on the border to stop them from dragging us down.
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>>338617
>turned their own country into a hellhole
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1954_Guatemalan_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat
That'd definitely be our fault.
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>>338627
those were commies though anon, they had to die
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>>338627
Lol. Dumb brown people are not my fault.
Shitholers make shitholes
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>>338500
>We have continuously been told by Border Patrol Agents that the barrier along the Southern border helps prevent illegal entries, drugs, and weapons from entering the United States
So they're towing the company line.
Why is that a confirmation? Because they're trying to keep their job?
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>>338530
>>338627
Based posters
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>>338641
>So they're towing the company line.
They're literally experts in the field

>>338530
>A flexible defense is better than a rigid one.
And a hybrid of both is better than either or, which is what we're trying to implement
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>>338627
This is a joke. Like saying that past injustices are why black Americans are having trouble in America. There was an overthrow of the government of Japan in 1945 by the Americans as well, and Japan developed into one of the strongest economies in the world. There was a seizing of property within west coast of America of Japanese Americans, their houses taken and thrown in internment camps. Now Japanese do so well that Harvard is discriminating against them and they're being sued.
Guatemala is shit because of the culture. If US intervention was the problem, Japan and South Korea would be shit holes. They're not.
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https://apnews.com/39adb8a994d043699e02793fec607d0e

The guy who made the accusations is already backtracking.
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>>338739
“It’s certainly plausible that they didn’t want it for the viewpoint, or they just didn’t want it,” he said. “Both are plausible conclusions. I made one rather than the other.”
How does this mean he is backing off?
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>>338741
Because he claimed that the reason was over their views on border security, and is now acknowledging that his hasty conclusions are not the only possibility. The article OP posted is basically an opinion piece and shouldn't be here with that in mind.
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>>338746
There is more evidence that CNN Spiked the story because of it not conforming with their beliefs, then there is that Brett Kavanaugh raped a woman.
He can at least provide dates and times.
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>>338748
Cite the evidence then. Nothing in the OP article provides hard evidence.
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>>338749
It's he said she said.
Just like the Brett Kavanaugh rape case.
KUSI is saying that CNN spiked the story because of bias.
CNN is saying they didn't include the story because of time
Christine Blasey Ford said that Brett Kavanaugh Raped her
Brett Kavanaugh said that he did not.
What is our standard of evidence?
If we use the Brett Kavanaugh model, we should believe KUSI. If we use another standard, we should believe neither.
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It is not a real news channel
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>>338752
>CNN is saying they didn't include the story because of time
CNN spiked the Brett Kavanaugh rape case story?
That's news to me, and that is pretty significant.
I thought word was they were super anti conservative?
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>>338752
>If we use the Brett Kavanaugh model
What is the Brett Kavanaugh model? Whether rape accusations should or should not be made public? How is that relevant here?
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>>338758
>CNN spiked the Brett Kavanaugh rape case story?
No, they spiked the KUSI story.
You can tell through the context the first pair of comments was about this thread. The second was about the brett kavanaugh case.
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>>338759
The Brett Kavanaugh model of He said She said statements being brought to the front and repeated, without corroborating evidence.
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>>338529
>Let's assume that thousands of years of history are wrong and you're right.
A more truthful response is probably "walls do work to a small degree." A southern wall may have a very minor impact on illegal immigration and drugs. This is a lot of ado and money over something that will most likely only make a small difference in the end.
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>>338759
Who accused Brett of rape?
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>>338761
So, statements should not be made unless they're corroborated by evidence? What evidence should exist before someone accuses someone else of rape?
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>>338773
I just want an equal standard being applied.
If one of the people Christine Blasey Ford said was at the party said that her being raped, and her not being raped were "Both plausible conclusions", would there be the same reaction?
Would the AP be putting out an article saying Christine Blasey Ford witness backs off of accusation that Kavanaugh sexually assaulted Blasey Ford?
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>>338773
Cum in or around a vagina
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>>338773
if the male can not produce a mutual sexual consent form, signed by the female in question and dated correctly, when asked, then he should be charged with the crime
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>>338772
liteally everyone and their mother. it was a fad for about 3 months
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>>338506
which drugs are we concerned about? meth is american-made, and the opioid crisis is due to american drug manufacturers. the others arent concern enough to spend 25 B on
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>>338505
>there's no way a vastly-funded cartel would ever think of defacing american property!
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>>338558
>it's not a question of whether a physical barrier can impede people.
Great, build the wall.
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The mental gymnastics behind not adding security to the border is akin to /v/ trying to argue that a game is shit.
You're all mental midgets who admit that physical barriers work, but refuse to acknowledge that *this* one will have any benefit because you've made it a matter of your political allegiance instead of thinking about it logically.
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>>338739
https://freebeacon.com/uncategorized/san-diego-tv-station-accuses-ap-of-fake-news-headline/
Fake news.
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>>342011
>freebeacon.com
Nah.



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