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Six families of victims killed at Sandy Hook Elementary School won a legal victory Friday in their fight against controversial radio and internet personality Alex Jones.

A judge in Connecticut has granted the families’ discovery requests, allowing them access to, among other things, Infowars’ internal marketing and financial documents.

The judge has scheduled a hearing next week to decide whether to allow the plaintiffs’ attorneys to depose Jones.

The plaintiffs include the parents of five children who went to the school as well as family members of first-grade teacher Victoria Leigh Soto and Principal Dawn Hochsprung, according to a statement from the plaintiff's attorneys.

According to the statement, the plaintiffs allege a "years-long campaign of abusive and outrageous false statements in which Jones and the other defendants have developed, amplified and perpetuated claims that the Sandy Hook massacre was staged and that the 26 families who lost loved ones that day are paid actors who faked their relative's deaths."


It goes on to say that "Jones' actions subjected the families and survivors of the Sandy Hook shooting to physical confrontations and harassment, death threats and personal attacks on social media."
"From the beginning, we have alleged that Alex Jones and his financial network trafficked in lies and hate in order to profit from the grief of Sandy Hook families. That is what we intend to prove, and today's ruling advances that effort," Chris Mattei, one of the attorneys representing the families, said in the statement. "We look forward to gaining access to Infowars' internal marketing and financial documents to show that Jones has built an empire as nothing more than a conspiracy profiteer, as alleged in our complaint."

Jones has sought to dismiss the lawsuit.

https://abcnews.go.com/beta-story-container/US/families-sandy-hook-shooting-victims-win-legal-victory/story?id=60314174
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>"years-long campaign of abusive and outrageous false statements in which Jones and the other defendants have developed, amplified and perpetuated claims that the Sandy Hook massacre was staged and that the 26 families who lost loved ones that day are paid actors who faked their relative's deaths."
Wow, that's awful.
Can I see some footage of Alex Jones saying that they are paid actors, and faked their relative's deaths?
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This reaction by the "parents" is totally rational and doesn't lead me to question the alleged shooting at the closed school in the slightest. The truth shouldn't fear investigation.
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>water filter man hurts my feelings
The abslotue state of crisis actors
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>>338401
deny deny deny
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Dont read lmauu ayy
Ure welcome
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>>338399
>Connecticunt
no really, i am so shocked right now that i had to stop reading right there.
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>>338412
Are you denying that he said that, denying him the source, or accusing him of being in denial about jones saying that?
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Oh wow it's nothing.
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>>338402
>literally have your child murdered in cold blood
>some fatass with a microphone calls you a liar when you dare to express grief at the loss of your child and his braindead listeners take this to mean they can violently harass you
>"this is awful, our child is dead and you're making our lives miserable!"

>>"LOL look at this paid actor trying to cover their bases hahaha shootings don't happen the world is made of roses and candy!"

I fucking hate you.
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>>338495
This is a normal reaction. Totally warranted of something that totally happened. I understand, my dog's wife's son's lawyer's kid died at Sandy hook.
Maybe we can start jailing people that question Sandy hoax, that stopped those evil 90 year women in Germany from questioning the (((official report))).
I love you child.
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>>338495
>violently harassed
Would you call it a "crisis".
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>>338497
You're right, Sandy Hooks never happened. In fact, all gun crime ever never happened. Did you know guns don't even exist? "Guns" are just a media narrative spun by the DNC to take away your guns!
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>>338510
..just like how illegals aren't storming our border
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So by this logic Trump can sue the media for lying about him and Russia, causing their viewers to "violently harass" him. This is why we need tort reform. What a fucking joke.
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>>338401
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkWAjaVlhHc
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>>338516
what a cunt
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>>338495
Welcome to how conservatives think, it's only a problem if it personally affects them. In this case, the Sandy Hook parents rightfully wanted stricter gun control, so conservatives like Jones cooked up the 'paid actor' lie to defame the parents.
Since conservatives are incapable of feeling empathy or doing the right thing.
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>>338515
Talking about tort reform in 2019? Someone get this man a candidate push!
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>>338516
>>338516
Thanks.
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Alex can suck it. Him and his people need to be removed from this biosphere.
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>>338399
>parents win lawsuit
Not even close. You should work for the Washington Post.
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>>338515
>causing their viewers to "violently harass" him
Those people are pretty much instantly thrown in jail dude, he's the fucking President and that's *specifically* a crime.
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>>338539
Don't be too hard on him, he's a retard who probably doesn't even know what discovery is.
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https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/never-forget-the-us-government-has-a-known-history-of-using-false-flags-1e08d6543d0c
https://www.personalgrowthcourses.net/stories/falseflag
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>>338573
No they are blue checkmarks still on Twitter, not in jail.
Lying gets you nowhere buckaroo
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>>338420
YES.
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I don't get those people. From all the school shootings that happen in the U.S why would this one be "fake"?
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>>338755
It takes a special type of psychopath to kill elementary school children, so some people would rather believe that the government would fake something that horrible for some nefarious purpose than believe that such a monster could exist in our society.

This is actually the genesis for a lot of conspiracy theories, some people take comfort in the idea that a shadowy organization plans everything bad that happens in the world because the idea that sometimes bad things randomly happen is terrifying to them.
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>>338497
And I suppose all those Transexual porn made Alex Jones' mind a bit dull on such matters which unfortunately rubbed off on you. Perhaps you may have such vices as well
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>>338516
Annnnnnd, he's now irrelevent. Funny how the "alternative" news gets exposed as lied made to feed off sheep
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>>338755
I feel like these types think every mass shooting is a hoax.
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>>338755
Simple ignorance. These dipshits dismiss the birth/death certificates, the FBI records, the autopsies, and claim that literally everyone around the massacre is a crisis actor. Mental gymnastics at their finest.

>The inexplicable mystery to me isn’t how there are massacres, but rather how there aren’t 100,000 of them every year.
-Adam Lanza
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>>338402
>The truth shouldn't fear investigation.
if anything, the lawsuit draws more legal scrutiny. alex jones has done nothing to further an investigation, he just made shit up about a mass shooting for entertainment value and views. let me guess, you think "mueller deserves a bullet for his crimes against the american people"?
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>>338755
iirc, this was about the beginning of mass shootings really ramping up, or mayber just more widespread coverage of the sheer amount of mass shootings that take place. at the very least, it was a relatively big, or well-covered, one, and so the autists pounced on it. since then, i assume they havnt had the energy to try to spin insane webs about how the over 300 mass shootings in 2018 and the 6 already in 2019. though they definitely put in some effort for vegas as well
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>>338933
unless the shooter was liberal, in which case it's "see the left are violent terrorists" and not a single entertainment of the idea of it being a hoax in such a case
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>>339028
Vegas really is fucking fishy, I just don't think we'll ever know if anything "happened" and what did.
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>>339053
reminder that the SWAT team who raided the room and said that he was DOA with no apparant head wound and the coroner listed his COD as suicide by gunshot wound to the chest
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>>339086
but what does it meeeeean
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>>338573
>Those people are pretty much instantly thrown in jail dude
Just like the people who have tried to ask the Sandy Hook activists and the school faculty questions about the shooting
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>>339030
>the shooter was liberal
Now there's a phrase you'll never hear.
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>>339162
Literally no one has been thrown in jail for asking questions about Sandy Hooks, you overly-paranoid fool
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>>338755
There were a lot of minor details surrounding the shooting which seemed strange. Kids who had been there at the time of the shooting gave interviews which contradicted most official reports. Those that were posted on youtube were summarily deleted for unknown reasons.

/pol/ had a collective schizophrenic episode a few years ago where they hypothesized that the kids which were "killed" were instead relocated to other states under new names as part of a government conspiracy to instigate harsher gun control. After the shooting they found pictures of kids who looked eerily similar to those that died, but lived in completely different parts of the country.
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>>339169
>Kids who had been there at the time of the shooting gave interviews which contradicted most official reports
Wouldn't it make sense that undeveloped minds like those a children would have their recollection of events easily altered by external stimuli, especially after something as horrific as a mass shooting?
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>>339170
Conspiracy theorists aren't rational anon. They always try to find fantastical explanations for the mundane or tragic. And then you have people like Alex Jones who become so delusional that they start dishonoring the dead.
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There is a war going on now, free speech. I should be able to say whatever the heck I want without having a judge rule that people I have spoken about were upset and therefore should have access to my research and/or insight into my reason for hurting their little feelings. Suck that people! Seriously!! Also, Sandy Hook was always a weird news story, how the same kid that was shot up at Sandy Hook was pictured as shot up in another country as well! What did the kid do? Die twice in two different countries? If the story in another country was fake, and Alex reported on it stating that the same kid was featured on a banner, in another country, and the kid was shown as one of the kids that were shot at That school, yeah.....questions should be asked. Now, if that is offensive to some then too damn bad, people have a right to ask questions that deviate from mainstream narrative. Bunch of NPC robots are the only ones wanting one voice, one opinion, one narrative, same same same junk. We should always ask questions, always question any narrative, and have the intelligence to research the facts Ourselves. The reason we are in the state we are in now is because everyone is too busy to find the truth out on their own, research the narrative given by both mainstream and alternative media. Make your own opinion people, and if you can’t, don’t punish those that actually can.
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>>339168
>Literally no one has been thrown in jail for asking questions about Sandy Hooks, you overly-paranoid fool
Yeah, they were arrested for harassment, many cases where kooky people asking about it have been thrown in jail
https://www.courant.com/breaking-news/hc-sandy-hook-denier-harrassment-0225-20170224-story.html
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>>339053
Not fishy at all. Some old psycho wanted to kill as many as possible, and he did it.
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>>339181
So you disagree with Trump saying that he should be able to shut down any news organization he wants?
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>>339268
No, he can say that
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>>339181
Freedom of Speech and Freedom from Consequences arent the same thing. I have the right to run around screaming gas the niggers kikes rape santa but if some mother doesn't particulatly like her child hearing that she's probably going to call the police.
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>>339375
Freedom of speech can and must mean freedom from "consequences" (aka harassment, censorship, and violence from communists) or it means nothing.
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>>339391
>>339391
I completely disagree, as does the law. If it's freedom from consequences then you're okay with people who radicalize terrorists so long as they never act themselves. And how can you want harassment not to be a response when you want harassment to be allowed? If you have kids can I repeatedly say anything I want to them in any public place and you arent allowed to do anything about it?
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>>339394
I bet you think "hate" is illegal in the US, too.
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>>339395
How did I imply that? Or are you asking retarded things to avoid acknowleding the error in your logic?
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>>339394
I think speech is only illegal in this country when it is used to incite or as part of a crime.
As it should be.
And yes, any speech that does not fall under this category should be consequence free
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>>339401
So to reiterate, we definetly don't arrest people whp radicalize terrorists unless we catch them telling people to blow up and anyone can come up to you and say anything they want to your wife and kids and you would be breaking the law to say or do anything about it? And calling the police would be a waste of time?
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>>339391
Freedom of speech is not absolute (without consequences), has never been absolute and never will be absolute. There are many times even more important things than freedom of speech. Like not getting harassed or stalked (like someone shouting you're a faggot outside of your house all the time)=he will get arrested and then he has no absolute freedom of speech, not fearing for one's life (death threats) etc. Only naive people think that freedom of speech can be absolute in real life. Me being free from harassment or death threats is even more important than someone's freedom to harass or threaten to kill me.
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>>339403
>we definetly don't arrest people whp radicalize terrorists
Idk strawmanning faggot monkey masquerading as an idiot behind a keyboard.
Is terrorism a crime? I think it is, and people who radicalize terrorists are inciting terrorism, which is a crime
So yeah, I think so.
Any other brilliant arguments?
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>>339403
Do you understand what the word "incite" means, specifically in the context of:
"used to incite or as part of"
because your argument either leads me to believe you don't understand what that word means or there is a problem with your parsing and natural speech understanding algorithm
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>>338497
Your dog's wife has a son with some other dog? The son (presumably also a dog) has a lawyer?
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>>339189
i cant tell if you're agreeing with him or not. harassment is different from asking questions
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>>339391

If your business model is to dance all over the line between speech and incitement, then over a long enough career, some people are sometimes going to have a convincing case that some of what you've done is incitement.
Shocking, I know.
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>>339409
Do you? According to you telling young muslims that the west is evil and all white people deserve to die and fear for their lives is under free speech because they arent stating they should blow then up. In the real world, that is inciting violence and that isnt free speech. By your logic you shouldnt be punished for what other people do because of your words, just like Alex Jones inciting violence and harassment. He didnt SAY to harass those people. Achmed didnt SAY blow up the whiteskins but both should be allowed according to you.
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>>339420
There's a big distinction between encouraging tragedy and saying somebody deserves tragedy. The latter is free speech.
>comparing Alex Jokes to suicide bombers
You are a clown.
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>>339438
They're equal threats to America, so it's valid.
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>>339412
>harassment is different from asking questions
In those cases the harassment was contacting and asking questions of people who didn't want to be asked questions.
So yeah, if you just ask your pet cat a question that won't get you charged with harassment.
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>>339420
>Do you? According to you telling young muslims that the west is evil and all white people deserve to die and fear for their lives is under free speech
It literally is in the USA
We even have public college professors saying these things, it's free speech
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>>339460
In that case we should start arresting idiots who conspire against presidential interests.
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>>338495
how to spot a person who has never investigated Sandy Hook
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>>339995
Counterpoint: You're a retard.
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>>339995
how to spot a person who has never investigated Sandy Hook
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>>339420
>Do you? According to you telling young muslims that the west is evil and all white people deserve to die and fear for their lives is under free speech because they arent stating they should blow then up. In the real world, that is inciting violence and that isnt free speech. By your logic you shouldnt be punished for what other people do because of your words,
ENGLISH MOTHER FUCKER, DO YOU READ IT???
ILL REPEAT THIS FOR YOU:
>>339401
>I think speech is only illegal in this country when it is used to incite or as part of a crime.
>As it should be.
>And yes, any speech that does not fall under this category should be consequence free
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>>338402
yes, let’s investigate whether or not the earth is flat.
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>>340355
Mixed hogs will holler
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>>339420
Lol your English parsers must have been malfunctioning or you are just have poor reading comprehension
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>>339460
>muh equivalency
Honk honk.



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