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WASHINGTON — A second intelligence official who was alarmed by President Trump’s dealings with Ukraine is weighing whether to file his own formal whistle-blower complaint and testify to Congress, according to two people briefed on the matter.

The official has more direct information about the events than the first whistle-blower, whose complaint that Mr. Trump was using his power to get Ukraine to investigate his political rivals touched off an impeachment inquiry. The second official is among those interviewed by the intelligence community inspector general to corroborate the allegations of the original whistle-blower, one of the people said.

The inspector general, Michael Atkinson, briefed lawmakers privately on Friday about how he substantiated the whistle-blower’s account. It was not clear whether he told lawmakers that the second official is considering filing a complaint.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/04/us/politics/second-trump-whistleblower.html
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>>476835
You'll know when it has begun.
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>>476896
Wut? The impeachment inquiry has begun. There was testimony yesterday, today, and every day the rest of the week.
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>>476901
>Wut?
You'll know when it has begun.
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>>476909
Okay, I know it’s begun. Did you have a further point?
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>>476915
>Okay, I know it’s begun. Did you have a further point?
That it hasn't begin. And you'll know when it's begun.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47HpvCTRqLY

>Yolanda Yu, a spokeswoman for the Hong Kong Police Force, said in a video posted on the force’s Facebook page that the protester was an 18-year-old who had been shot in the left shoulder. She said the protester was conscious as he was taken to the hospital.

>Local news media reported that the young man was a high school student.

>Ms. Yu said the officer who shot the protester had been under attack by violent “rioters” who were threatening officers’ lives. “In order to save himself and his colleagues, he fired one shot at the attacker,” she said.

>The Hong Kong police commissioner, Stephen Lo, told reporters at a late-night news conference that doctors were treating the young man who had been shot. He said the protester had been arrested and that the authorities would decide later whether to press charges of assaulting a police officer.

>Mr. Lo said the officer who shot the protester on Tuesday acted in a “legal and reasonable” manner by giving a verbal warning before he opened fire. The officer had been assaulted at close quarters, Mr. Lo said, and had no other choice but to fire a live bullet.

>In the video, the protester who was shot is first seen joining a black-clad mob of people who chase a riot officer and tackle him to the ground. They kick him and beat him with what appear to be metal pipes.


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First IED bombing of the movement, we have entered a new phase
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgsqcRW5mt4
https://news.rthk.hk/rthk/en/component/k2/1486114-20191014.htm
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia/hong-kong-protests-police-homemade-bomb-mong-kok-11998870
https://www.hongkongfp.com/2019/10/14/suspected-improvised-explosive-device-discovered-hong-kong-protest/

HK police officer hospitalized after neck cut by rioter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1XQ-Yk2SGc

Woman attacked by anti-government mob in Mong Kok
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeC1bpGJhzk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATO_roCP2BA

Police officer drop kicked and beaten by anti-government rioters, rifle almost stolen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQYvsaEmCio

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Hong Kong rally urges US Congress to pass Hong Kong Human Rights and Democracy Act
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmDxnPNv-mA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXrsJc5FY1Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DacSMXugGKw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWgqtymTwEA
https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/politics/article/3032887/hong-kong-protesters-fill-chater-garden-and-spill-nearby

Hong Kong news outlet driver allegedly shot by rubber bullet or bean bag round by police during weekend protests
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxcJRcmR_Kk
https://www.hongkongfp.com/2019/10/15/hong-kong-police-apologise-vow-investigate-case-now-tv-driver-hit-projectile-detained/

Hong Kong violence prompts debate but no division among protesters
https://www.hongkongfp.com/2019/10/14/will-not-sever-ties-hong-kong-violence-prompts-debate-no-division-among-protesters/

Hong Kong cuts banks’ capital buffers as outlook deteriorates

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>>469061
>Protester Shot In Hong Kong With Live Round For First Time

GOD BLESS!! ABOUT FUCKING TIME!!
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End of innocence as Hong Kong's revolution devours its own children
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=un8ksFETvtc

Hong Kong faces first recession in decades after months of protests
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ck2hGc8qJi0
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-10-09/hong-kong-is-sinking-into-a-recession-with-no-recovery-in-sight

Carrie Lam slams US senator for 'police state' remark
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIuZcw59Kbs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6pkZe1cli0
https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/politics/article/3033011/hong-kong-leader-carrie-lam-condemns-us-senator-josh-hawley

Police stabber charged with attempted murder, attacker's school defends him and says he won't be expelled for it
https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/politics/article/3032975/hong-kong-protester-arrested-attempted-murder-police


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>>473098
>acting like the average person remembers jack shit after high school
I know for a fact i was taught all of that. It isn't that we aren't taught these things in school; people just remember the high impact shit, and not the buildup

Three products were removed from the list of pesticides approved for use on cannabis in Washington state earlier this month. Commercial cannabis growers are not allowed to use any pesticides not on the list. When Leafly reached out to the Washington State Department of Agriculture to find out why the products were banned, we got a surprising answer: The makers of the pesticides had requested to be taken off the list because they didn’t want their brand to be associated with cannabis.

That’s right: The three products were banned for use in cannabis cultivation by their own makers due to cannabis stigma.

The three products removed were an insecticidal soap and two neem oil products from the brand Natria. We reached out to Natria for comment, but the company did not respond.

Without comment from Natria, we can only speculate about the reason why a brand might want to take themselves out of the thriving market for cannabis cultivation products—but we’ve seen a similar trend in the past with lighting manufacturers not wanting to sell their lights to cannabis cultivators.

https://www.leafly.com/news/growing/pesticide-maker-bans-its-own-product-due-to-cannabis-stigma
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Back in 2014 and 2015, when Colorado and Washington were just opening their legal adult-use markets, many national lighting companies actively tried to avoid putting their lights into the hands of cannabis cultivators.

“At the time, lights were being confiscated by authorities during raids, so lighting companies did not want to take the risk of bad PR,” says Chris Walker, former general manager at Heliospectra, a company that was actively marketing lighting systems to the cannabis trade at the time.

Perhaps pesticide makers have similar public relations concerns, and don’t want to take the risk of being associated with cultivating a plant that is still federally illegal.
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>>476691
>“At the time, lights were being confiscated by authorities during raids, so lighting companies did not want to take the risk of bad PR,”

Sounds more like the government's ambiguity on legalization is to blame and not the free market

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>land of the free

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/10/01/us/nyc-illegal-alien-discrimination-guidance/index.html

https://web.archive.org/web/20191001155837/https://edition.cnn.com/2019/10/01/us/nyc-illegal-alien-discrimination-guidance/index.html
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New Yorker then names newborn daughter "Anne Illegalalien" for the lulz
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>>475882
>>474352
>>474368
which do you hate more anon:
1) Freedom of speech
2) White males
?
If you had to choose one, would you make it illegal for anybody to disagree with you, or would you make white males extinct?
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>>469046
Are you acting retarded to make people hate leftists or are you an actual retarded leftist? I can’t tell if you genuinely don’t understand free speech or if you are just larping as a retarded democrat. So weird.
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>>468935
this is correct, as a more correct term would be "foreign invader", or "invader" for short.
have them eat their own tail, over the implications, and since they like to have cock in their mouth so much.
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>>475882
Okay misandrist. I would tell you to stop diddling kids but you'd probably report me for hate speech.

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/2019/10/12/watch-video-shows-fort-worth-police-officer-fatally-shoot-woman-inside-her-home/

Video shows police searching outside when the officer saw 28-year-old Atatiana Jefferson at a window and opened fire.
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Fort Worth pigs still looking to escape unscathed, observe:

a) Quick arrest vs amber guyger slow arrest, the fwpd hope is to avoid federal oversight, Interim chief has no skin in the game and can afford the heat

b) Censored video to protect a plurality of pigs, intent is to limit the damage to Dean

c) doctored video to present lawful weapons as unlawful
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Red hair diametric opposite of African American features
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Help I've got to getaway with dis crime
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Help somebody get me an attorney out of jail
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I'm not guilty, boss man told me to shoot, gun has a mind of its own, uh let's see what else, fat finger just like keyboard, I thought I was back at home gaming, yeah that's it, oh well its only 5 years in prison, I be out before u can say ummm texas or even justice

Staff ran fight club for dementia patients at North Carolina nursing home, police say.

https://amp.newsobserver.com/news/state/north-carolina/article236192538.html

Three women who ran a “fighting ring” at a North Carolina assisted living facility encouraged residents to get into a physical altercation, officials say.

They were workers at the Danby House in Winston-Salem in June when they didn’t intervene in a fight between two residents with dementia, according to a report from the N.C. Department of Health and Human Services.

Staff members took video of the fight, which led to “one resident being strangled with her face turning red,” and shared it on social media, the state report says.

It happened when one resident hit another, and the report says staff members can be heard on video saying, “Punch her in the face.”
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>>476504
>>>/pol/
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>>476504
I'm sure the residents were also black. Does that make you feel any better?
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>>476322
If you put your parent in a nursing home it means you want them to die.
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>>476509
Is this a place where people post facts or why do you link it?
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>>476333
Wasn't that the Expendables 2?

According to the report, South Dakota jailed 2,888 people per 100,000, nearly twice the national average of 1,506, and narrowly edging out Mississippi, which had 2,814 per 100,000. (Other states that jailed more than one out of 50 of their residents were Georgia, Kansas, Kentucky, New Mexico, Oklahoma, and Wisconsin.)

https://www.salon.com/2019/10/05/guess-which-state-has-the-worst-drug-laws-in-america_partner/
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>>472272

90% of those are acohol smuglers into indian reservates..
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>>472288
Cope ESL trash.
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>>472272
>salon
oh and its disingenuous to equate "worst drug laws" with "most arrests" because it implies empathy for drug users and scum.
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>>472342
>oh and
What did this useless piece of exposition add to your statement? You sound retarded. Just say your piece and stop being retarded.
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>>472293
Read the article, it says that a large portion are prairie niggers.

Not a surprise though, meth and alcohol are the only reason these subhuman vermin even get up in the morning.

Vladimir Putin

https://www.businessinsider.com/us-pulling-out-syria-and-open-skies-treaty-benefit-russia-2019-10?utm_source=feedburner&amp%3Butm_medium=referral&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+businessinsider+%28Business+Insider%29

Russian President Vladimir Putin's birthday was on Monday, October 7. And he was potentially (and inadvertently) gifted two foreign policy wins from the United States.

The Trump administration made two recent foreign policy decisions that lawmakers from both sides of the aisle worry will benefit Russia.

President Donald Trump announced a decision to pull roughly 1,000 US troops from northern Syria, on Sunday night, a move that would not only endanger the Kurds — US allies in the region in the fight against the Islamic State — but would also mark a victory for a group of adversarial countries, including Russia.

"A precipitous withdrawal of US forces from Syria would only benefit Russia, Iran, and the Assad regime," Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell a Republican from Kentucky said. "And it would increase the risk that ISIS and other terrorist groups regroup."

It was also revealed via a letter from Chairman Eliot Engel of the House Committee on Foreign Affairs that the Trump administration may pull the United States out of the Open Skies Treaty, an agreement that now has 34 participating countries including Russia.

Engel, a Democrat, in particular notes the treaty is "important as a check against further Russian aggression against Ukraine."

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>>476284
But the US is no longer dependent on Saudi exports as it was in the past, so there is no risk of US going without, or even having any supply problems, as may have been the case before the shale industry was bigger. You are correct that the US isn't the only game in town. Precisely for this reason it is in American interest to precipitate a major conflict in the middle east. If Iran had a major war with Saud and Israel then it is not inconceivable that some of their drilling and processing equipment could be damaged. Also, if Iran makes good on its promise to shut the Hormuz Strait, the what would that do for the price of crude. If the war is protracted and oil production facilities are targeted with cruise missiles en there is no telling how long they could be out of action for. Bearing in mind that these facilities are constructed with no small amount of western expertise, there is no downside to a full-on Sunni/Yid vs Shia total war if the US can keep out of direct conflict.
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>>476486
Of course the global economy will collapse but it’s not like we are interconnected or anything.
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>>476488
> muh global collapse
Why? The Chinese might even end up buying oil from the US in this scenario. What do Arabs and Iranians contribute apart from oil?
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>>476486
Thats the thing. Iran's drilling equipment is already shit and barely updated from where it was in the 70s/80s. Its US big dick power and special relationship with Israel/Saudi that keeps the rest of the world from investing heavily in Iran to modernize them. Why do you think the French leader has been bending ass backwards to try to get Trump and the Iran leader in the same room so for negotiations?

Basically what I'm getting at is the US can't have its imperial privileges and hide under the blankets at the same time. We withdrawal in the world and China, Japan, Europe, etc will be more than happy to deal with Iran just like they happily deal with Cuba now. This can lead to blow back for us since a world less dependent on us means countries start buying weapon systems from other places or asking our troops to leave since we prove to be unreliable (not just referring to the Turkey episode).
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>>476516
That's just the facts of life. The alternative is that the US maintains its overreach, and risk heavy losses in a conflict against belligerents who have had 50 years to prepare for a war against the US navy. An inferno in the middle east will also delay the new silk road project. The US can't maintain its position with naked force forever, the cracks are starting to show and new weapons are entering the arsenals specifically designed to kill carriers and capital ships. US needs to learn to be sneaky. Also, for the plebian a world in which Iran can compete fairly in the petrochemicals market and healthy competition driving innovation and keeping down prices is not one to be feared. Western civilians don't really receive benefits of imperialism anymore, any would be saving is counteracted by higher taxes. The US doesn't even raise its banner over the countries it conquers, just hands them over to selected corporations. So all the costs of the US empire are public and all the profits are private. The only benefit is world reserve currency status, but the dollar has been decoupled from gold for a long time now, and producers have been trying to extricate themselves from the dollar payments system for a long time, this is in part what is driving this conflict. The longer this state of affairs continue the weaker the US becomes and the more enemies will reveal themselves and line up with China and Russia. Russia builds the best AA system in the world right now, so why wouldn't people want to buy it? People should want American weapons because they are the best, not because they are forced to buy them.

Why is it considered news when stupid entertainment industry retards try to abuse their public positions to exert and outsized influence on public discourse relative to the their population fraction and demonstrated importance?
>Queen Latifah to be honored by Harvard for her contributions to black culture
https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/465713-queen-latifah-to-be-honored-by-harvard-for-her-contributions-to
>Jane Fonda said she is prepared 'to get arrested every Friday' for climate change protests
https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/465722-jane-fonda-said-she-is-prepared-to-get-arrested-every-friday
Oh wow really Jane Fonda will do anything to get her face in the newspaper? Big News! The Hill failed to cover something meaningful and covered Jane Fonda instead
>Cardi B downplays Sanders heart attack: It's not 'a problem'
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news-campaigns/465735-cardi-b-downplays-sanders-heart-attack-its-not-a
Who the fuck even is "Cardi B"? Is she a famous doctor?
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>woymn strongke!
>its her turn!
>#believeher
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You need retards to rule mate
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>>476534
>/blogs/
there's your answer, you illiterate

Really does appear the Donald will win despite all the public knows and unknowns at this time, Trump does appear to have the upper hand in a number of avenues, fascinating change of sea

https://nypost.com/2019/10/08/white-house-says-it-wont-cooperate-with-unconstitutional-impeachment/

The White House on Tuesday sent a defiant eight-page letter to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and top Democrats declaring why it would not cooperate with their impeachment proceedings, calling them “illegitimate and unconstitutional.”
Team Trump called the letter, which was written by White House counsel Pat Cipollone, historic, according to Fox News.
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Dese toys are buytifull
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I will pray for our leaders to have sex together cum together

Trump cock ===D () pelosi pussy
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Trump wins
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>>473025
Trump benis ==()=D~~ pelosi impregnated
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Yep john Lennon said it best

Cum together

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-The U.S. personal savings rate is rising, and it’s holding back the economy, says Raymond James.

-“Savings rates are now higher leading to excess supply seemingly everywhere in the economy,” analyst Tavis McCourt wrote in a note to clients Thursday.

-He believes the rising rate is driven by millennials saving more following the financial crisis.

Millennials — the selfie obsessed, avocado toast-loving generation — might be behind slower economic growth, according to a research note last week from Raymond James. This new generation, scarred by the financial crisis, is saving more than the free-spending boomers did before them, and it’s causing an economic imbalance.

According to data from the St. Louis Federal Reserve, the current U.S. personal savings rate, defined as income minus spending, is 8.1% as of August. By comparison, in 1996 the rate was 5.7%.

“The higher savings rate, we believe, has had disinflationary impact, driving the relatively slow growth and low inflation in this recovery ... causing the incentives for excess supply, and disinflation/deflation biases in the global economy,” Raymond James analyst Tavis McCourt wrote in a note to clients Thursday.

One of the earliest financial lessons people learn is that saving early and often is key.

However, while saving is beneficial for individuals, a slowdown in spending hurts businesses and therefore the economy. Since the recession “supply increases have continued,” which coupled with a higher savings rate has led to “excess supply seemingly everywhere in the economy,” McCourt notes.

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Might also be due to the fact that millennials are more likely to live with their parents, so they don't have to spend money on stuff like furniture and appliances to put into that new house they just bought
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>>472231
This is an artificial metric. It's impossible to save money now that there is no separation between commercial banks and investment banks. Every dollar you put in the bank is lent out again so the bank can make money on it.
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>>472427
Gen X are just younger boomers. Not different in any way except being less successful.
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>>476487
>Gen X are just younger boomers.
>>472427
>But that's cool. Ignore the wicked smart, cynical individualists.
>>476487
>Not different in any way except being less successful.
And your boss. Any your landlord. And your doctor and lawyer and banker and plumber and mechanic.
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>>476487
Millenials are just younger Gen X
Zoomers are just younger Millenials.

Spartans are just younger Greeks.
Etc.etc.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-10-11/u-s-expected-to-announce-new-troop-deployment-to-middle-east
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>>476318
Who are you quoting?
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>>474598
>Hurr no blood for oil bring our troops home!
>Waaahhhh muh kurds! Muh racism!

I swear to God years ago I was arguing with a lefty coworker who no shit was against the US being in the Middle East... but then he wanted troops to go into Africa after the whole Boko Haram thing. The best part when I pointed out the hypocrisy of getting involved in another war with no end he deflected with "Oh Africa doesn't have oil so that's why we're not going there."

Like can you people make up your fucking mind? In before cool story bro.
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>>476484
the main issue is we DID end up going in, and now we're just leaving them to die after ingraining ourselves in their issues.

In a nutshell: Context is important.

Your coworker is a hypocrite tho
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>>476172
>The more different fractions, the harder Israel has it to expand.
this is the exact opposite of true
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>>476194
has he defeated isis yet? no? they're coming back because we pulled out? but i thought they were supposed to be defeated in thirty days?

https://www.vox.com/world/2017/7/3/15904646/trump-syria-assad-russia-iran-secret-generals-military-isis-terrorism

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>Joe Biden's Ukraine narrative was upended during Monday's “Tucker Carlson Tonight.” Fox News host Tucker Carlson presented his audience with a photo of the former vice president and his son Hunter golfing in the Hamptons with Devon Archer, an executive of the Ukrainian gas company Burisma Holdings.
>Hunter had been serving on Burisma's board while the company was under investigation. It was a lucrative position, too, with Hunter reportedly earning millions of dollars. At the time, Vice President Biden reportedly tried to get the prosecutor in charge of the investigation fired. He's also claimed that he has "never spoken" to his son about his overseas business dealings. But the above photo makes that hard to believe.
>“I have never spoken to my son about his overseas business dealings,” Biden told Fox News last month. “I know Trump deserves to be investigated. He is violating every basic norm of a president. You should be asking him why is he on the phone with a foreign leader, trying to intimidate a foreign leader. You should be looking at Trump.”
>While the whistleblower complaint against President Trump raised concerns about his asking a foreign leader to interfere in our elections and investigate Biden, it simultaneously raised questions about Biden's shady Ukraine ties. Both sides have jumped on the scandal. Democrats used it to launch an impeachment inquiry, and Republicans have cut a new ad accusing Biden of quid pro quo. The committee gave him a new nickname, "Quid Pro Joe."

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>>470496
By refusing to cooperate n the impeachment process, he would fall under "obstruction of justice" and that's definitely a crime
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>>474699
b-but it goes against the laws of criminal prosecution, which impeachment is not
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>>474341
well, 4/pol/ at least.
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>>470103
That's because the MSM is run by jews.
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bump

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Scott Whitney, an inmate at Martin Correctional Institution, captured footage over four years that shows rampant drug problems, violence, mold and crumbling conditions, offering a rare look at Florida's prison system

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/crime/article235804527.html
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Nationalizing the prison system would be a good first step.
There shouldn't be a profit motive in this.
Same with healthcare since both incentivie worse outcomes for profit.
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>>476295
IDGAF
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Seems like Jail is much better than the real world.
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>>476317
>A/C, Beds
>Spoiled

You’re gonna need to remove the “cruel and unusual punishment” clause from the constitution first
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>>476408
Easy, declare them as non-uniformed enemy combatants. This removes any Geneva Convention protections that they could be given and basically makes them equal to Guantanamo Bay prisoners. It is a drug "war" after all, makes sense to consider them to be domestic threats.

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>KYIV. Oct 9 (Interfax-Ukraine) – Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden received $900,000 for lobbying activities from Burisma Group, Ukraine's Verkhovna Rada member Andriy Derkach said citing investigation materials.
>Derkach publicized documents which, as he said, "describe the mechanism of getting money by Biden Sr." at a press conference at Interfax-Ukraine's press center in Kyiv on Wednesday.
>"This was the transfer of Burisma Group's funds for lobbying activities, as investigators believe, personally to Joe Biden through a lobbying company. Funds in the amount of $900,000 were transferred to the U.S.-based company Rosemont Seneca Partners, which according to open sources, in particular, the New York Times, is affiliated with Biden. The payment reference was payment for consultative services," Derkach said.
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>>475384
>Well, the next few months should be instructional for ya.
Ohh, I'm familiar enough with the matter. Biden is no stranger of mine.
What I suspect the next few months will be for you is a major existential conflict. You will be offered the opportunity to see your leaders with the fig leaf gone. And then you will presented with a decision: abandon your narrative-fed wanton ignorance, or end the hell of your cognitive dissonance and realign your understanding with the reality of the situation: that you are a pawn being manipulated to achieve the objectives of a power hungry oligarchy seeking to usher in a new age of Feudal tyranny under the guise of Marxism.
Expect tears either way, but expect comfort with only the right choice.
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>>475502
>reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
It appears you are triggered.
I remain glad that you will get to learn about civics. Real world gonna be pressing down on you.
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>>475511
>I remain glad that you will get to learn about civics. Real world gonna be pressing down on you.
I would encourage you to print this out and look at it again three years from now, five years from now, and ten years from now for maximum ironic education effect.
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>>475758
I would 100% give you that advice. You are not n for a real shocker. Be sure to check in with /pol/ to figure out when to change the narrative.
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>>474419
it's for the lols you goof


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