>train accidents every year in usa>in the uk train accidents are rare especially in the last decadesWhy are trains so unsafe in the USA?
>>1325221everything is unsafe in the USA, cagers deaths on the road are extremely high compared to the rest of the civilized world.
>>1325221Amtrack a shit.
>>1325221Infrastructure is for commies. Also if you just let fatalities occur naturally the free market will sort out the safety issue on its own.
>>1325221a number of the 'train derailments' of the last couple years were actually terrorist attacks that we claimed were not for propaganda purposes.
>>1325264Propaganda towards what?
>>1325279>Propaganda towards what?furthers the lie of the US that our rail network is safe from terrorism and sabotage. We have especially covered up the amount of pilot/conductor related incidents we've had that likely aren't on the up and up. If people knew they likely wouldn't ride on a piece of transit equipment if it was piloted by a muslim.
The USA has a "that'll do" mentality. You really have to live here to experience it.
>>1325339That's what makes us so good
Because American RRs are a for-profit operation and run their equipment until it physically breaks. Accidents are regarded as commonplace, containable, and just a regular facet of normal operations. It's only a problem when oil trains crash because their contents can't be cleaned up fast enough before the government shows up.>>1325263It's rarely the track that fails but instead brakes, wheels, axles, trucks and couplers.
>>1325339pretty much this also an adversarial relationship between union workers and management. Workers in North America have no pride in their work, the union tells them they are under attack by management, so they put in as little effort as possible. Also union employees are unfireable. the unions do everything to protect the jobs of the worst employees. supervisors get pulled from this pool and create a toxic working environment, while anyone with 1/2 a brain gets the fuck out and finds a better job.
>>1325507>Workers in North America have no pride in their work,Railroaders used to, but they've been completely demoralized by upper managers who aren't railroaders, just corporate weasels>the union tells them they are under attack by management, so they put in as little effort as possible.When the company puts as many resources into suspending you and eliminating your position altogether, you quickly learn to not give a shit. There's no productivity bonuses to be had for craft jobs (managers get them)>Also union employees are unfireable.Not true>the unions do everything to protect the jobs of the worst employees. Unions protect ALL employees>supervisors get pulled from this pool and create a toxic working environment,Not usually, trainmasters get hired right out of college without having switched a car.>while anyone with 1/2 a brain gets the fuck out and finds a better job.Correct
>>1325221Whilst rail travel in the USA is not as safe as that in other western societies (Japan, Europe etc), the photo here is of the Potters Bar rail crash which happened in North London in 2002.
>>1325404But that's not how other for-profit train operators behave
>>1325349But if "that'll do" is good then China would have been better
the USA used to be a white country and now its not. that's your simple explanation.
>>1326302>implying UK is a white country
>>1325221EU rail infrastructure is newer thanks to all the Muhammads exploding it regularly.
>>1326367Keep telling yourself that whitey.
>>1325221Do our trains even go fast enough to crash these days? Our network is a bit shit.
>>1326510Only HS1. Everything else is a slow moving turd that stops at village stations nobody uses and has to slow down on old track. We need more dedicated high speed routes. Hopefully HS2 goes ahead.
Because we have shit trains.
Americans are trash subhumans who only live for their next hit of junkfood/monster/meth/fen/pot/vapejuice/booze/porn. Anyone lives in this country and actually gives a fuck about work or making things better usually kills himself before long.
>>1326902Self-hating burgers are honestly worse than ubernationalist burgers. You arent doing yourself any favors.
>>1326936You have to admit, he really pulled back the curtain
>>1326902Can’t wait for my next hit of porn
>>1326902>Anyone lives in this country and actually gives a fuck about work or making things better usually kills himself before long.[tinfoilhat] Or the Corporate Illuminati kill him and cover it up. [/tinfoilhat]
>>1325221>pic related is a train accident that happened in the UK
>>1327768The Class 365 in the photo bears the NSE livery, meaning the picture dates back to the 90s.
>>1326789Nope. HS2 is shit in the London to Birmingham format.We already have two mainlines for that route.Really, it should go to improving the trunk routes and electrification of the Felixstowe-Ipswich line.
comparing to a part of US the same size and amount of track and it might just be in our favor, you're doing the 'flat earthers' type of 'science', kid.
>>1327769I'm well aware of the incident anon, also they were operated by WAGN at the time, so early 2000s, just before they got the smiley face fronts put on them.
>>1327769It was 2002 spazmo.
>>1325221i don't know where this premise came from, next post will be american fatalities in rail accidents, this is EU data, including the UKthe united kingdom has *more deaths for *a smaller population, in both years, and it's not even close>2014US deaths: 5UK deaths: 25>2015US deaths: 11UK deaths: 24>>1325404here is a list of all of the for-profit passenger railroads in America:THIS POST IS BROUGHT TO YOU BY FUCKING NUMBERS
>>1327815There's no actual proof we have more deaths than the US though, you're just claiming we have more deaths with no actual solid comparison regarding it, so you're not really convincing anyone.
>>1327815No one in america uses the railways so compare per passenger mile.
>>1327815Where are you getting those numbers? I'm looking at the ORR report for last year and it only lists 7 passenger deaths.
>>1325404Americas are private but run by the government.
>>1327855Probably includes deaths by level crossings and suicides. Those will always be higher in Europe since you need trains to suicide by train.
>>1327851>>1327852>>1327855here's the citation, it's from eurostat (a body within the EU):https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php?title=Railway_safety_statistics&oldid=326173If you go down, you'll note that "suicides are in principle excluded from these statistics," to the extent they can. 99% of the fatalities were at grade crossings (which they call level crossings).The US version does not include grade crossing deaths, but I found them here: https://oli.org/about-us/news/collisions-casulties. That increases the deaths substantially, to around 250, BUT it includes suicides, so again it's not comparable. So I looked up USDOT's suicide statistics, available here https://www.volpe.dot.gov/rail-suicide-prevention, and it says that 275-328 people died in 2014-15 by suicide/railroad. IN CONCLUSION THERE ARE NEGATIVE PEOPLE DYING IN AMERICA, THE GREATEST COUNTRY OF ALL TIME, BRITNIKS ON SUICIDE WATCH
>>1325319in chicago 95% of the train are driven by blacks
>>1325404The shinkansen is privately owned and has never had an accident for 40 years.
>>1328908Ya never heard of JNR?
>>1325221Because no one cares about rail enough to invest in it.
>>1330725Yes, a defunct state company that was split into many other private companies ... and with no drop in safety record since being privatized. The JR groups also develop their own tech, and much of it, specially tech related to the Shinkansen, has proven itself as safe and reliable.
>>1331717Good point but i don't think a western company could do any of that. Trust the Japanese not to fuck up privatization like the Brits did.
>>1331717>>1331883JNR built most of the system and burdened most of the construction costs. If that cost wasn't essentially written off when it was privatized, their trains wouldn't be profitable
>>1331883>fuck up privatization like the Brits didIt's not been completely flawless, but this comment is absolutely retarded. Most of the problems, like delays and old rolling stock, are down to the government.The more things change, the more they stay the same:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frMBenE1G_4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoDLHOMtfvU