Golden Hours EditionLast thread:>>1263320
>ywn dredge up your own private island and declare independence
It’s time to post some paystubs people!!!
>>1316609how many good boy points does a 50' yacht cost?
>>1316631If you have to ask - you're not a good enough boy
Anyone here watch some Mariner vlogs like Chief makoi?
Chief makoi raped me in my cabin when i was on his ship
>>1316745Me too but I wouldn't call it a rape, just a bit rough at the end, apparently my ass wasn't tight enogh.
>>1316717Eh, I usually can't stomach those channels. They either overplay the romance of being at sea to saccharine levels, or make it look like Deadly Catch. I mean, we're basically truck drivers of the sea, people.
How is it to stand watch on the bridge? Can you bring a laptop to do something or is it hellish boredom?Share some experiences.
>>1316607it's never too late
>>1317265Depends on captain and your exp levelIf you have some exp and convince the captain it won't distract you from navigation won't be a problem.Just don't watch movies or play games or any activity that requires you spending long times at it.I used it for music and nav programs. Don't listen to music at hight level so you don't hear vhfs
>>1317505Or alternative, just turn the VHF up so the music isn't going over it.
>>1317653Capt won't see it that way
>>1317791My last captain thought the same until a coast guard broadcast came in at the perfect time and started talking over the whole bridge. After that I had earned his trust.
>>1316896Only we carry way more cargo, have bigger transportation means, travel longer, see more of the world and earn moreBut other then that, yeah
>go outside>look astern>see thiswhat do?
>>1319412Contemplate your life, will you die smiling or full of regrets?
How many condoms should i bring for the master? I want to make sure his wiener doesnt have any poop on it for when he inevitably asks me to bend over.
What are the officer meals like on cruise ships?I'm considering making the switch.Do I still have to sit for hours next to people I cant stand, while munching greasy boomer food, or can I just eat whatever I want, hopefully healthy, and fuck right off without getting liver cancer?
>>1319472Yes. If you're an officer, you can eat in the crew mess, the separate officer's mess, or even the passenger buffet for free. You're under no obligation to converse with any of the passengers during your meals as long as you rebuff them politely, although you do have to humor them when you're on duty in passenger areas.You can also typically eat at the fancy restaurants onboard, but for those you need to be wearing your dress blues and you are responsible for the cost of the meal, which is typically just deducted from your paycheck like most other spending expenses onboard.
>>1319486Am I allowed to sniff the passengers buttholes during my offhours? Asking for a friend.
>>1319486Not the other anonIts reasonable to take it off your pay, but it aint for me mate. The appeal of being 3 months at sea is barely paying anything while getting a fat paycheck. Would totally do it as a captain tbqh, invite the golddiggers and their fat old husbands to the captains dinner and fuck the whore afterwards.
>>1319491>Its reasonable to take it off your pay, but it aint for me mate.That's for the expensive places, anon. Like, if you wanted to eat at the ship's Michelin Star rated steakhouse or if you wanted to partake in the ship's sushi bar. You can eat in the officer's mess getting the same food as the main restaurant for free all you want.
>>1319486Sounds good.I'm only a few pounds away from my target weight and i'd like to eat a salad once in a while.
>>1319490You meme, but fraternizing (fucking) passengers is literally the second-fastest way to get yourself fired after showing up on duty drunk.
>>1319495You can eat a salad every single day if you so choose. The officer's mess typically has multiple ones on the menu you can order, on top of the make-your-own fare in the mess cooler.
>>1319496So you not only chastise yourself from anything but buttsecks for 3 months but you have women walking around as well?Thats some fucked up level of cuckery right there
>>1319505Who said anything about "chastizing yourself from anything but buttsex"? The ship has a crew of almost a thousand people and several hundred of them are women because the majority of the ship's crew is the Hotel department. You can fuck as many Filipina room stewards and European dancers and American tour guides as you want as long as they're not your direct subordinate.
>>1319554Sign me the fuck up
>>1319590you wont make money working on a cruise ship
>>1319801The tradeoff is that you get to work on a ship that isn't pure hell.
>>1319873>Babysitting thousands of fat, drunk, entitled boomersSounds like hell to me, m8
>>1319908>implying that's your jobThe extent of your babysitting is being polite to passengers when you're in passenger areas, and being helpful if they approach you with questions. You're Deck Department. You actually drive the ship. Actually catering to the passengers' needs is the job of the Hotel Department.
>>1319966I’d still hate all PAX on principle though
>>1319978It's different being on a passenger ship. Passengers hitching a ride on a cargo ship are just unwelcome guests getting in your way and eating your food, but pax on a passenger ship ARE your cargo. There's also an entire department whose job is to interact with them and clean up after them, so with that off your back you're already predisposed to deal with them better.
>>1317265It's hellish boredom even with a laptop
Whoop dee scoop dee poop dee doop the WHOOP. I just got my first sea hour!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YASSSSSS QUEEN JUST LOGGED MY SECOND HOUR AT SEA!
>>1320239What do you do? how it going?
gonna be going around the horn of africa as a cadet and first time aboard what am I in for?
>>1320256Be sure to bring a box of condoms on board for the master. He's going to want to put his penis in you anus, and you want to make sure there isn't any poo on his phallus after he pulls out.
>>1320652But i only want to get fugged in the bum by a futa anon
same dude from last thread wanting to gtfo of maritime academy here.I still havent decided. Im seeing my options into the IT field since that is what I want to do. Would you say I will regret it later not going for the Merchant Marine? I have an opinion formed now but I'll never actually know how bad or good it is if I never actually sail for long periodswould have to invest 3 years of my life to find out tho
>>1321216You need to figure out what it is that you want first. Having your hand in two pots at the same time never turns out well. Either dedicate yourself to a career at sea and work your way up, or dedicate yourself to IT and suck on the jew's proverbial cock. Kapa Kapa
>>1321216So do you get payed by nationality (where you were born), citizenship (where you have a passport) or residence (where you live at the time)Im thinking about getting my fat western euro paycheck and living in a balkan state with cheap houses, booze and basically cheap everything
>>1321469wasnt meant for that anon but the thread in general
>>1321469More or less what's written on your passportThere are a lot of job vacancies that require uk pass, us driver license And at the bottom of the page. We don't discriminate baseed on sex age race etc
>>1321469Really fucking depends where ya wanna work bud. If ya wanna work the great lakes like a real man, we only take canucks and americans in most roles. including deck. If you're deep sea, filipinos and indians are the norm at $800 USD/ month for deck
>>1321721>we only take canucks and americans in most roles. including deckBecause in order to sail there you have to have fucking pilotage for each individual lake.
any OS or ABs here? what do you guys usually do other than muh paint ship n derust?
>>1322256They also grease.
>>1322305eh but other than that mate give me a TLDR breakdown (if you want to make it TLDR)
>>1321721care to give a summary of your career in transportation? I'd appreciate any anon describing how they got into the field, their role, the highs and the lows.
>>1322256We basically paint and chip rust. This boat has no stewards department so we’re also responsible for cleaning the house.Otherwise we’re on bridge watch when underway, and we’re also responsible for landing and lashing cargo
>>1322346oh hey tugfag you ever steered the ship or do you only do watch?
>>1322347The AB’s are all on deck when the boat is maneuvering in port. I’ve maintained the course while underway a bit, but even then there isn’t really a true helm or dedicated helmsman on a supply boat
>>1322347Switching from comercial to offshore I was surprised that there was no ab an the brige for entering/ leaving/ passages on the bridgeI discovered that in order to do that they had to know how to operate 2-3 azimuth thrusters or 2 engines, 2 propellers, 1/2 bow thrusters and 1/2 stern thrusters as opposed to only helm in commercial. Can't say that steering the ship while cadet and junior off with retarded captns that put officers on the wheel during Antwerp, Rotterdam, Hamburg, Huston passages didn't pay out. But at the time being 6 hrs on manual not able to move wasn't fun.Seen too many off, chief mates and even captains that have no fucking idea how to steer a ship and many capts that just parrot what the pilot says.A real challenge for me was learning azimuth trusters. Where you steer right to turn left, similar to overboard engines in small boats.
What does /mg/-/n/ think of leeboards? They're basically a pair of pivoting side-keels installed traditionally on the sides of low-draught ships, and are often wing-shaped to provide "lift" against heeling.
Do any of you guys have gym memberships back at home? I want to get fit but don't want to pay $60/mo when I'm only home like 5 months per year.
>>1323058Get into bodyweight fitness, or kettlebells. Results with minimal equipment/cost
>>1323280Only if you're a fatass. Doesn't work for spookmasters, which I'm assuming is about 90% of this lycra-wearing board.
>>1323302>he thinks /mg/ has anything in common with the rest of /n/
>>1323058If you’re in the US planet fitness is about $10 a month
For me, it's the Great Lakes freighter.
why do you like ships
>>1323609I was almost made, born and practically raised on a shipTheres nothing more comfy for me then being at sea
>>1323609 #I’m actually here to confront my phobias of large watercraft and shipwrecks
>>1323609ships are hammocks with an engine its relaxing sometimes.
>>1316631100 to 150k, £ or $ if you don't mind a bit of work. Just make sure the sails and rigging are up together. Most of the cost is to keep the thing running though.
>>1316631Get a job on one and pretend its yours and youll paid to do it
since this thread is dead probably because half of yall are working on ship rn got any stories to share?
>>1324918Last week while i was on watch in the bridge i had itchy butt. So took my finger and cleaned out sphincter, making sure to wipe my finger clean on the sea clutter dial.
>>1325199Big if true
Have any of you guys done any LSFO trials?Is your ship planning to use new, barely tested and non-standardized LSFO fuel when 2020 comes or will you just switch to expensive MGO at all times because it's tried and true?Any of you on a scrubber-fitted vessel? Have you seen what the open-loop discharge water looks like? It sounds bad but all the (((studies))) now claim it's perfectly safe.
Job opportunity here
>>1325952>implying any of the Americans in here have a Master's license
>>1325970>implying any of the Americans in here want to live in a shitty place like LA
>>1326159Moreso this desu. Fuck the Bay and fuck LA.
>>1326159>>1327368>turning your nose up at pilotagespotted the brownwater fags
>>1319496>literally the second-fastest way to get yourself fired after showing up on duty drunkAyy lmao, I interned for a large cruise line and had to drag the first engineer back to his cabin when he had passed out in a passenger corridor. No way he turned up sober on his next shift. Hell, you could refuse an alcohol sniff test and if your superior liked you, you could get away with it.
>>1328898never turned my nose up at pilotage im just saying LA is a shit place to live
post sea stories
>>1329157im just a cadet
>>1329698Shouldnt you be sucking the capns cock then
>>1329733>all captains like their dicks sucked by young boysGo fuck yourself and your gay fantasies
>>1329830>He doesnt knowEnjoy the raep
>>1329842I'm a captain you fucking african american
>>1329846And you dont like your dick getting sucked?What are you, fucking gay?
>>1329850By other men noIf this makes me gay so be it
What's it like to be a marine engineer? I live in the Netherlands and probably will be going to college majoring in the merchant marine industry, either becoming a steersman or engineer.The work/leave ratio is one of the main reasons of why I'm interested in this field, apart from the thrill of adventure, of course. I don't care about not being at home for a long time.I probably will become an engineer, because I'm afraid the automation of ships will get rid of a lot of steersman jobs.At the end of June I will board a ship, which will fare to Scandinavia, to see what it's like to work on a ship. If this doesn't leave a good impression, I won't be majoring in this field.Any advice for a possible young merchant marine?
>>1330990>I probably will become an engineer, because I'm afraid the automation of ships will get rid of a lot of steersman jobs.Automaton would kill engies too. The goal with automation is to do away with crew entirely. So don't go Engine if that's your only reason; go Engine if you want to get your hands dirty fixing things and keeping the ship running.As for advice: bring shit to do when you're off watch. You'll have a lot of time on your hands. A LOT. And keep in mind, everyone has a bad first day out. You're going to be seasick until your body gets used to the constant motion of the vessel. Take your seasickness pills if you need them; it's much more important for you to be able to do your duties than it is to look "tough" in front of the old salts. They'll think you're a greenhorn pussy starting out anyways no matter what you do.Ultimately, whether or not this job is for you comes down to if you have the sea in your blood, and you won't find that out until you actually go out on the water.
>>1316896Truck driving is nothing more than advanced pizza delivery. Changing the mode is just a different skillset/time commitment.Everything is just advanced pizza delivery:Taxi/pizza delivery>truck driving>train engineer>ship captain>airline pilot>interplanetary space ship captainAll essentially the same job. And if we go back to primitive times, your just the merchant with a pack mule, stage coach, or part of a caravan.On the cosmic viewpoint it’s all the same job.
>>1320024Out of curiosity how does one become a passenger on a cargo ship?
>>1331724You buy a ticketIts more expensive then a cheap cruise but youll spend a lot less at the barhttps://www.cargoshipvoyages.com/>>1330990Waar zit je? Hopelijk niet rotterdam
>>1331724There are a few agencies that will help you book passage on the few companies that still offer it. Alternatively, like tugfag, your company could be chartered to carry workers to an offshore platform.
>>1331729Or you are someone's wifeMore commonly capts wife but ive been on a vsl where 3rd off wife was onboard for 2 weeks. Helps if you are managerial lvlThe company must allow it. Some don't The capt must allow it. Some don't You'll pay for her plane tickets but not for her food and accommodation while on board. Might depend on company. Never sailed for one that charged for those but you never knowIf you are trading some nice areas and nice ports would be niceI wanted to get my gf while I was trading in the Caribbean sea. Not much time in port but a lot of anchor time, used the rescue boat to go every at at the beach and swimming In photoshopped clear water. Even bought snorkeling eqp, so I thought was nice for her to be there.Got ok from company and capt. But until my gf made up her mind capt left, new capt came on board, he was a retard, never bothered to ask him, just told my gf to w8 for me home. I was c/o thenDrinking on bord. Is it allowed or dry ship? Having a woman onboard and alcohol is not a nice mixAlso having rednecks niggers and women is also not a nice mix if you don't want to hear redneck nigger comments about your girl
>>1331729>Waar zit je?Ik ga in Vlissingen studeren.
>>1331720>The goal with automation is to do away with crew entirely.How long until this happens? And also, won't there be a crew needed on board just in case something goes wrong?>whether or not this job is for you comes down to if you have the sea in your bloodI'll know that at the end of June when I will go and board a cargo ship for a week.
>>1331729Good god almighty! Airplanes seem cheaper.Thanks for the info. >>1331730
>>1331759Years and years and years. I'd say you can safely enter the industry and MAYBE by the time you're ready to retire you'll be relegated to maintaining autoships when they enter port.
do cargo ships give seasickness?
The container ship industry will collapse for other reasons before automated shipping happens.
>>1332060>container ship industry will collapseIt will contract, that's for certain. But collapse? No way in hell. The technology was too revolutionary. We're not going to change from containers unless something better comes along; we're definitely not going back to breakbulk.
Navy comms guy here with a question to anyone out there who can answer. >What do commercial ships use for their IP services underway and what's the speed like?We use X/KA (SHF) band primarily sometimes dual simplex over EHF and the speeds are are around 2mb or higher depending on your platform.How much do commercial comms guys make and what else do they do besides maintaining IP services?With the Navy we maintain a multitude of circuits ranging from HF to EHF but I don't see a commercial ship using that much.Also do you guys use crypto devices at all, taclanes (INE) etc?
>>1332080Don't know the actual tech, but merchie internet is sat based, generally a European provider.>2MBfucking KEK, we're lucky to get dialup speeds.>How much do commercial comms guys make and what else do they do besides maintaining IP services?Merchie radio officers are extremely rare; very few ships have them anymore. However, for the ships that do have them, that's their job. They maintain all of the radio equipment: the VHF, the MF/HF, the INMARSAT-C console, the sat phone, the pirate distress button, AND the radars. I think they're also responsible for maintaining/troubleshooting the fire detection system as well. But as I said, most ships don't have radio officers anymore, they rely on shoreside experts to fix their shit. But cruise ships all have one; too many electronics and too many people to just write systems off until they reach port.>Also do you guys use crypto devices at all, taclanes (INE) etc?Nope, not that I'm aware of. Not in times of peace, anyways.
>>1332084So even on merchies there's nobody to maintain the on board radio equipment?I bet being comms on a cruise ship not only pays really well but is also a sweet gig (prob not)
>>1332087>So even on merchies there's nobody to maintain the on board radio equipment?Nope, crews have been cut down to the bare minimum. Usually like 20-25 souls, tops.>I bet being comms on a cruise ship not only pays really well but is also a sweet gig (prob not)lel, you vastly underestimate just how many fire detectors are on a cruise ship, along with how many wifi routers there are, and how many phones. All of those are your responsibility too. I think the pay is comparable to a First Engineer/Chief Officer, though; I know the comms guys on Norwegian ships are 3-bar officers.
>>1331759Please do report back on your experience.Im an academy student and I wanna leave everyday, but ive never actually got on board and I dont wanna have any regrets
anyone here working at one of the big companies like MSC, ZUD?, Hamburg (basically every company that works around the ocean). How did you get the job as a foreigner?
Apply at their office in your countryApply at a crewing company that recruits for them in your countryApply on their website:|Cmon nigger is not really that hard
Cmon post bridge pics
is it true that you make a lot of money as a deck hand?
>>1332335i said as a foreigner nigger. like say im a brit and i want to work for a US company but they dont have a company here what can i do?
>>1333234Msc zud etc all are international companies so they hire world wideIf you want ti work for an eskimo company prob you can't coz they hire only eskimosBut you can try their website and see their requirements, us flagged vsls require us working visa to work there if not national
How much fuel do shipowners steal from charterers typically?I know fuel consumption is overstated on charterparties but by how much?On an average vessel, let's say a Supramax, which burns about 22-25mt of FO per day at "eco" speeds, is the theft like 1-2mt per day or is it like 5mt?
>>1334290Depends on contract.If the charter pays for fuel, and ship is time charter there is no need to steal fuel coz you can't do shit with it. As an owner at least, the crew can and usually does;)
well boys, back to the boat tomorrow.fucc
>>1334518Is working on these types of shifts really any better than a normal work schedule?
>>1334518how was your vacation mate?
>>1334631Like anything in life, it has pros and consPros:>Weeks/months of "vacation" time in equal parts>No daily commute>Removed from the teeming masses of humanity for a period>Room and board coveredCons:>Weeks/months stuck at work>Can't leave the boat and go for a walk>Cooped up with mouth breathing crewmates >You will miss important events, holidays, anniversariesFor me, it's the boat schedule. I'm on a two week rotation, and I love the block of time I get off, and you're never too far away from getting back home. As far as holidays are concerned, my family has come to recognize that it's making the time to be together that's important, not just the special day. But shit, I've been doing this since I was 19. I'm ruined, if I had to switch to a 9-5 office job, dealing with traffic both ways five days a week I'd probably go ballistic and open fire into the general public.
gonna be working on a cargo ship for 6 months and I don't own a laptop, am I screwed?
>>1335199Better just off yourself right now if thats your biggest worry.
>>1335199Hope you've got a lot of memories in the spankbank
Navy Comms guy here again.One thing that is heavily stressed on our vessels is damage control, as you can imagine. We run a few drills every week, some being major such as general quaters (battle scenario) and some fire drills, toxic gas, flooding etc.On merch ships I can imagine you doing battle scenarios but do you guys do fire/flooding etc drills and is everyone required to fully dress out and "fight" the causality?
>>1335387Yeah. Fire, abandon ship, grounding, flooding, etc. The intensity and thoroughness varies from ship to ship and crew to crew. But at the least it's all done at the bare minimum to satisfy safety standards.
>>1334518I feel you bro, I'm waiting for a call any day
>>1334631Like >>1335066 said, lots of pros and cons. You rationalize it to yourself in different ways, but you can’t just “pause” your home life while you’re on the boat, and that definitely has an effect on you. But I doubt I’d want to go back to a shoreside job unless I went back to harbor towing or if I can eventually become a pilot (which is my end goal)>>1334641Overall it was pretty good, did a lot of shooting and probably more drinking than I should have. >>1335467The last few days before going back are always the worst and always shoots my anxiety through the roof because I feel like I didn’t get nearly as much accomplished as I initially planned ahah
>>1335479Fuck mate i want to move to the US and shoot some funs too, cant get citizenship tho if im 3 months on and off
>>1335244so what should my biggest worry be?
>>1335479Yup. You don't have a lot of excuses for missing goals when you're single and getting a whole 2-4 weeks off. Also, I've been trying to launch some new hobbies (strength training w/ trainer, get a motorcycle, etc) and as such I feel like I've done nothing but spend money this past month. Oh well.
https://www.oilandgasjobsearch.com/Oil-and-Gas-Jobs/Crew-Jobs/Deck-Cadet/Details/1390875?utm_source=job%2Balert&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=job%2Balert%2Bemailif any of you fresh out of school ameriniggers is interested
>>1335479What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo.
>all indian crewwhat am I in for?
>>1335479>eventually become a pilot (which is my end goal) are we the same but just you are just older than me?
>>1336052the deck may be full of shit and you may hear punjabi music. Im just makin a guess
>>1336052Never sailed myself but have friends that didDepends from what region / clan they areSome are above others so they consider themselves superior so they are cleaner, and act more civilizedBut in most cases, they stink Co of curry. Expect to eat curry with everything, most of my friends complained about hygiene and overall cleanliness and shit food. Regarding seamanship and work stick hit and miss like with every crew. If they are from drifting clans expect a lot of discrimination among themselves. Could affected you if you are management lvl and need to tamper them down.Anyway do yourself a favor and spend an hour on forums about this matter. Try to get a quick rundown on their customs and what are so no go areas with them They do reverse head gestures for yes and noUp and down = noSideways = yesThis I know from my brother who worked with them
Work stick= work etiquette *Drifting clans= different clansFucking auto correct>>1336082After my first voyages this was my plan also. But with time I found out that everybody has same goal so there are hundreds of contenders annually for very few vacancies witch are moat prob already filled coz of nepotism,
/mg/ newfig here, I guess this is a common line of questioning, but would you say going into shipping was a good career choice? How long have you been working?I have had a comfy and well paid career in IT straight out of school for quite a few years now, but it's honestly too monotone and boring with the same office and same people every single day year in year out - so I'm kind of thinking about switching paths in life completely while I'm still young(27) and while I haven't done much sailing I do like doing hard physical labor and most of all seeing new parts of the world, if only for short shore leaves.