New generation of safer bicycle helmets.Read the story, too much to post here.https://arstechnica.com/science/2019/04/science-and-bicycling-meet-in-a-new-helmet-design/
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Yeah I think we had this thread a few weeks ago and it died because of the Dutch Disease (a certain insane radical faction of cargo cultists believes that forcing everyone to ride slow shitty bikes and no helmets is going to make everyone safer and happier, proper intersection design and enforcement of ROW laws are irrelevant)
>>1315754Yeah well brainletism is a Real Thing and we rational adults have to fight the ignorance for the good of everyone so fuck them.
What happened to that helmet design some meme company came up with awhile back where you wore a huge collar and in the event of a crash it deployed an airbag around your head?
>>1315915you mean this?https://hovding.se/It's one of the most bought helmet in Sweden currently.I like my MIPS Giro helmet, I don't really like the idea of relying on an airbag for when I fall off my bike.
>>1315915>>1315927It's a single-use item though isn't it? Once the airbag deployed you'd have to re-pack the airbag and re-charge whatever deploys it or something, wouldn't you? Also I've seen video of it deploying accidentally, I wouldn't want to be riding along, hit a bump, and have that happen.
I don't see the point. Helmets do really do much in serious accidents
>>1316160I think the airbag thing is a once time use, after its deployed you have to buy a new one.
>>1315754slow your roll
>still looks dorkyHMM
>>1315735This looks promising but I can't help but notice that TREK's helmet testing was done internally. I wish there was a great independent method of testing helmets. For all I know TREK tested these helmets in conditions specifically designed to improve their own results
>>1316193If all helmets look dorky on you, maybe you're just a dork?
>>1316164Well that's a deal-breaker right there, I wouldn't want to hit a hard bump and have the damned thing deploy in the middle of a ride, leaving me the rest of the ride with no protection whatsoever. Dumb idea, that.
>>1316213Looks to me like the mesh is really just an addition to the normal energy-absorption material, so even if the mesh did nothing for some reason you'd still have the same level of protection as a 'traditional' helmet.Nice to see that someone is working on upgrading the technology, though.
>>1316237If that was an issue, they would never have become a commercial success, or even legally available in the EU.
>>1316160Regular helmets are single use as well tho, they become pretty much useless once you hit something hard or drop them from about a metre.
>>1316265I think the deal breaker is the price. Hövding costs €350 while a regular good helmet costs €60.
>>1315735>newThis is just the cardboard helmet from 8 years ago made more expensive for denstists
>>1315927That was it. Thanks anon. Glad to see they made it to a commercial product.>>1316160So are helmets, technically.
>>1316382>So are helmets, technically.Not really. If I take off my helmet and drop it on the floor, I don't have to worry about it exploding into a balloon and having to throw it away. I also don't have to worry about hitting a hard bump and having the same thing happen.I suppose it's good for people who don't ride much and care more about appearances than they do practicality but otherwise I don't see it being a widely-adopted product.
>>1316854>I also don't have to worry about hitting a hard bump and having the same thing happen.see >>1316254
>>1315735just buy a full face
>>1317076I'm getting one once I'm signed on a GT contract, until then it's a good design but I do not wear helmets.
>>1317154>i only believe science when it reinforces my beliefs
>>1317173Y'all want some science?Howbout a site that does independent testing instead of aggregating clickbait news stories.https://helmets.org/
>>1317137>>1317173>cycle helmets don't help prevent face & neck injuriesNo shit? Why not just include data for broken arms and scraped knees while we're at it? Look how useless helmets are now!
>Trek, through its subsidiary Bontrager, is introducing helmets incorporating the proprietary material for casual road riders, commuters, mountain bikerlel, so just another moneymaking scheme for gullible cyclists
Just get a paragliding helmet instead of cycling meme-helmets
>>1317173>>1317188I personally had my dome saved by a helmet when some jackass caused a major crash at a road race I was in a few years ago. The helmet had a huge dent in it but I had *no* head injury or even a headache from it, but beat up all over the rest of my body and the bike was damaged. That's all the """PROOF""" I need that helmets are useful and sensible. All the bullshit arguments against them are just that: *bullshit*.Riders need to use a goddamned helmet, and they need to STFU and just do it.Anti-helmet jackasses need to grow up.
>>1317326At this point you might as well make your bike the helmet
>>1317326Wearing a helmet designed for high energy impacts will do more harm than good in a low energy crash.
Full body armor when?
>>1317421>cycling FringiesYou're in the same out-of-left-field group as recumbents, recumbent trikes, and hand cyclists (although they have a legit medical reason for riding them). Just stop. Nobody wants a '''velomobile'''.
>>1317573>Nobody wants a '''velomobile'''.Except for the people who pay 5k€+ for them and fill the waiting lists for them a year in advance.
>>1317564that's not real body armor.
>>1317573>Stop liking what I don't like
>>1317421That's smart, not everybody wants it, though. You can wear a paragliding helmet on an upright bicycle, too. >>1317488Load of crap.
>>1317865>Load of crap.Are you retarded? The higher density foams for harder impacts simply won't compress under low energy.
>>1317849>doesn't have fucking wheels mounted on it4>will actually protected you in some cases of an otherwise lethal impact
>>1317868You are retarded if you believe you have only low energy crashes to expect in case of having a cycling accident.
>>1317868When are you overgrown children going to grow up, be sensible, and use a goddamned helmet when you ride your goddamned bikes? Literally everyone else does, but you all insist on having a hissy-fit because you think people are making fun of you. PRO-TIP: It's all in your *head*. Nobody gives a shit whether you wear a damned helmet or not, it makes *sense* to use one, these half-assed 'studies' you post are stuff and nonsense, plenty of people have been prevented from head injury because they used one, and furthermore your childish protests against them is just encouraging others to not use a helmet, which puts them at risk. Stop being ridiculous, or at least keep your nonsense opinions to yourselves. Tired of people being stupid.
I took the plunge on one of the XXX helmets cause I needed to replace my road helmet anyway, and it's pretty fuckin nice. It feels like it's covering my whole head, like a cap. Ventilation is decent, so far, but it's not summer yet. And it looks way nicer on my head than my fucking Synthe did. Hopefully won't have to test the anti-concussion claims.
>>1315735looks like they vent like shit.
>>1317416The link debunks "but there was a dent on my helmet, that's proof" stories.
Motorcycle helmets work. They offer 360 protection and have more energy dampening material.Bicycle? It kinda belongs to construction site, where brick can fall onto head, not head on something
>>1317188>Howbout a site that does independent testingDo they? I've only seen them refer to studies conducted by others.>>1318399You are mistaken. Many cyclists do not decide to wear a helmet because the risk inherent in cycling in general is quite low and therefore the inconvenience and discomfort of special safety gear is not called for in most cases. I hope this clears up any misconceptions on your part.
>>1319667>>1320310My head wasn't injured and it 100% would have been otherwise. You cannot logically or rationally refute that.>>1320313Fuck you.Time to grow up and be responsible adults.
>>1315754Remove the bit about helmets and you're describing all bikefags
>>1316160They are single use but there is a heavy discount for replacing one that's activated
Call me an autismo but I always felt like there would be some use for a cycling mouth guard on account of it being more airy than a full face helmet.
>>1320577They exist. Mountainbikers use them.
>>1315735>those article commentsPure cancer
>>1315754>to be fair, when the airbag was introduced to cars, accidents increased because people weren't driving as carefully as they used to. I'm still in support of bike helmets though, but the evidence is there to suggest that more safety features leads to people having less regard to riding safely
>>1316381Right, because that's exactly the same thing.
>>1320323If fallen off my bike without hurting my head when not wearing a helmet. You cannot logically or rationally refute that.
>>1322363>it didn't happen once, therefore it can't possibly happen ever!the brainletism is strong in this oneRussian Roulette would be an excellent game for you>I pulled the trigger once and didn't blow my head off, therefore I can pull the trigger infinite times and nothing will happen!derp
>>1316854>If I take off my helmet and drop it on the floor,Your helmet isn't effective if you're treating it like that
If I pull that helmet off, will you die?
>>1325460IT WOULD BE EXTREMELY STATISTICALLY INSIGNIFICANT
>>1322368Most people go day by day like a russian roulette. >Credit debt>not doing what you want in life>still working at that job you hate>depressed while doing everything that makes you depressed.>want to lose weight but still eat like shitYou can't really talk to those people.
>>1322368If you consider riding a bicycle to be as dangerous as Russian roulette, the use of additional safety equipment may well be advisable. For the vast majority of cyclists, this is not the case though.
>>13254654 the average rider
>>1331568Fuck that chainring jump looks insane
>>1331570well lets be honest, bacon is insaneINSANELY FAST