Any of you ever make fictional transit maps? I'm currently working on a map of the Northeast US in an alternate reality where passenger rail was supported in the same way it was in the UK in our timeline, with most of the lines traced over current and former rights of way. Clearly (since there are orphaned stations all over the Virginias, and a multitude of missing stations in New York and Pennsylvania) it's a long way from being done.
>>1315052Also, >inb4 shit crop
Of course.Did you make that Google MyMap of the Northeast? I meant to bookmark that.
>>1315074No, that's a completely different guy. He was the one to actually inspire me to make this one, actually. I started in New England, which is why it's the most thoroughly covered, and decided "fuck it, I'm doing the whole Northeast!" I now realize, as I start on the line between Schenectady and Binghamton, several months after I started on the rest of the Northeast, that I may be in over my head on this one.
Is extending the blue line on the T to watertown a stupid idea? Everyone wants the blue and red to connect at Charles and then keep going and I just feel like it's a logical place to extend service to in that direction.
>>1315462It's not a bad idea at all. However, extending it via Cambridge is a bad idea. Allston/Brighton needs an alternative to the Green B, and I was considering sending the Blue along the Worcester Line ROW to BU where it branches to Watertown Square under US-20, and serving Riverside via Newtonville, still along the Worcester Line ROW, giving the 3 CR stations in Newton more regular service
>>1315052I tried to re-design RTD's bus system in Denver. I made a thread about it, though the system got mixed reviews.Pic related is a re-done version of the bus system that I did, with more emphasis on the North. It's probably unrealistic but eh, I had fun designing it at least.
>>1315052do you have a link to your map?
>>1315658not the same, but this one has been posted before.https://email@example.com,-77.9514256,6z/data=!4m2!6m1!1s16NJdQyX8pERrEfQTeFvzpdX1ivw
>>1315658Nope, not yet. I haven't tried to upload it, and I probably won't until it's done in about a year or two. Sorry.>>1315671This was actually my inspiration, and the map I was talking about here >>1315130
>>1315658>>1315713Would a few screenshots of various regions suffice?
There's a site that allows you to create your own subway system. It's pretty simple but also interestinghttp://beno.org.uk/metromapcreator/#
>>1315715Fuck it, I'm just gonna drop 'em now.
>>1315802And that's all I've got so far. Fucking hell, the recharge timer actually lasts longer than the captcha verification here
>>1315462By the way, what program did you use to make this?
>>1315738Neat tool, anon. Bit fiddly to use but like you said, interesting.
>>1315786what i wouldn't give for regular train service to stops in every town on the cape. T service is a joke
>>1317150It's not just that, it also connects suburbs without having to go through Boston, although the option is there, and probably much more frequent in service.>T service is a jokeIt ain't no Britbong Network Rail, but the Northeast commuter systems are better than just Amtrak, or nothing, which is what a lot of the largest cities in America have.
>>1315052How do you make these in Google Earth, anon?
>>1318266So when you open Google Earth, you have a tab labeled "My Places." In the upper bar above the map there's a series of buttons. The ones of importance are the "Add Placemark" and "Add Line" buttons. Left click to place line points, right click or backspace/delete button on the keyboard to delete the point. Go nuts.
Okay I've been fucking around in this program,still haven't found out how to bend lines since our train lines aren't straight between stationsI mapped and expanded Vancouver's transit linesHere is my extension of the Expo Line into the Fraser Valley - through Surrey (King George + Fleetwood) to Langley (Centre),southward I sent to White Rock (Centre) via Newtonfrom Langley, I mapped a connection north via Corvalth to Maple Meadows (currently a regular train station on the West Coast Express [not sure if it should connect there at all, but I was bothered by the lack of North-South connections on the existing grid and even with future plans)
>>1318678this is my westward Millennium Line extension to UBCone that's been discussed A LOT - in fact, Google Maps lists a few stations (VGH, UBC, West PG) that don't even exist yet...mysterious shit. anyway, I incorporated those along with Arbutus (& 4th St.), Fir (& Broadway), through an exising station at City Hall, and a Kingsgate station (at Kingsway & Broadway) where there's discussions to redevelop the current mall, finally connecting with the current line at VCC Clark (I'm thinking this will be underground)this is a massive east-west line, and transposed with other lines (including one's I made) shows the lack of north-south connections I alluded to
>>1318683a North Shore Line I drew upyeah I wanna connect Translink to BC Ferries terminals (and make Compass a payment option)I'm also wondering whether the NSL should go southward to connect with the WCE or Millennium via Phibbs (nothing yet)
>>1318684Canada Line + extension to Delta/Tsawwassen. added stations at Ladner, South Delta (theres a bus loop there, but I get that Tsawwassen Mills mall is near yet not near enough), to the ferry terminal via Richmond/BrighouseI wish you could break down and reuse all the materials from those two stations on Sea Island (SIC and Templeton) cause theres just no fucking reason for them. also, theres no connection between Richmond and Surrey (despite being neighbours) outside of South Van/New West (Expo Line). so many damn considerations.as for the lines to the ferry terminals, since its very determinate destination, they would run at a different frequency than inner city lines - like every 10 minutes, compared to every 30 minutes (plus traffic) on the bus. perhaps a different gauge and model of car for increased seating/storage (like for luggage)
>>1318598Thanks, I'll give it a shot.
>>1318686I'd add a branch to Point Roberts because fuck it, why not? Jut keep it north of the 49th
>>1315052I made this as fluff for an alternate history green anarchist commune where 95% of trips are done by bike and public transport. Pic related shows the countrywide maglev and HSR networks, as well as reactivated local railroads.
>>1319984Currently the most fleshed out area, including Hannover and Brunswick S-Bahn, metro, and trams. The limitations on import functions and layers in mymaps are a pain in the ass.
>>1319987Might I recommend making them in Google Earth and importing the layers to MyMaps? It's what I do.
>>1320261That's exactly what I'm doing. I have a metric fuckton of folders, paths, and markers which I have to separate down to the lowest level before I can import them to mymaps. And even then, I can only import a handful of folders before I reach the limit. Thus, I won't be able to show you the full extent of my autism.
>>1318678Based connection to White Rock.
>>1320419This thread ain't going anywhere anytime soon. You'll have time to finish up and upload before this thread 404s
>>1320735Maybe when I have time I'll write a python script that dissolves the folder structure in the .kml file, but even that probably won't be enough. Mymaps can only handle 2000 "features", whatever that means.
>>1319984>I made this as fluff for an alternate history green anarchist commune where 95% of trips are done by bike and public transportCringe
Go back to >>>/o/ if you don't like it
>>1320741Why don't you just upload the kml file so I can take a look at it for myself?
>>1321659Yeah ok. Do you have a suggestion where to upload it anonymously?
>>1321752It's an unconventional use of the site for 4chan standards, but Mega would work. Either that or Volafile. You'll see threads of porn folders being uploaded to those sites with links shared on /b/
>>1321866OK here you go. https://mega.nz/#!BS5DQSyB!4WMyruTlzp4-VScfrfz_nMi1T4ZneXbMdnjVxTFVh_w
>>1322492>>1322689Also, what language are those placemarkers and folders written in?
There hasn't been a passenger line from Scranton to NYC in almost 50 years, and one shitty bus company has a monopoly on the corridor so tickets cost more than a train to DC. Please consider adding something OP.
>>1322689>>1322719It's mostly place names in the local dialect in a phonemic script. Where I couldn't find those, it's conjectural Low German.
>>1322778I'm gonna add the Lackawanna Cutoff eventually, but I'm currently working on the B&O Old Main Line, divided between DC and Pittsburgh at Cumberland, and renamed to the Potomac Corridor south of Cumberland and the Youghiogheny Corridor to the north, since both halves of the route relatively follow both rivers>>1322987Ah, I tried translating some of them, but Google gave me a variety of languages, such as Latvian, Romanian, and Danish.
Here's a great source for abandoned rail lineshttps://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1Q91IBeZLh916Q5auDaQ9-x25vh0
>>1315462the green line used to go to downtown watertown
>>1324842Have you seen https://www.openrailwaymap.org/ ?I'm not sure how to just get abandoned lines but its really obvious on the map where they are.
>>1324984I have, actually. I found that map of abandoned lines through Atlas Obscura.USGS maps of the time are great resources for finding the abandoned lines
>>1315052Wow you are autistic. This is probably the most /n/ thread I have ever seen on /n/ and I have been here since like 2012.
>>1325140OP here, I feel honored
>>1324842>>1324984>>1322492 here. These are great. I also put some reactivated tracks on my autism map, but I wish I had known about these before. Is there any way to export stuff from openrailwaymap?
Could we please just have one general thread for fantasy maps? Repostan for the third time I think. Fantasy tram lines for Barcelona. Mostly centered on the innermost ring road which circles the old town.This line would replace the popular D30 bus, and join with the existin tram network in Esplugues (top left).
>>1325298This line would replace the popular V13 bus, which runs mainly along Muntaner and Aribau streets.
>>1325299This line would replace the popular H12 bus, running all along Gran Via avenue.
>>1325300This line would create a convenient connection between the city center and the northern coastal area, which has poor coverage.
>>1325301"Horizontal" line between Metro line L5 and future Metro line L9.Short tunnel under the Gràcia old town, since the tiny streets are practically impassible for a modern tram.
>>1325303uppermost "horizontal" line on the south side, also an area with poor coverage. Historically there was a tram line on part of this street, but this one is extended to Esplugues where it would join the existing tram system.
>>1325304Last one, interurban line between Cornellà (where it joins existing tram system) to Castelldefels. With two small branches to Sant Boi (connection with narrow-gauge FGC line) and Viladecans (connection with Renfe mainline).
>>1325298Why do you put all of these in separate images? Aren't you trying to come up with a complete system? >>1325303Do you have an alternate suggestion for L9 where it isn't complete shit? >>1325305Here comes Sant BoooiiiOh shit whaddup
>>1315510Any post-MGH extension of the Blue Line will all but certainly have to hit at least Kendall via a tunnel under the charles, just because selling a direct connection between Kendall and the Airport, East Boston, and whatever gets built at Suffolk is the single most useful thing that a Blue Line Extension can accomplish. From there, it makes sense to hook left and tunnel under the Grand Junction ROW, which MassDOT already owns, and would be painless to tunnel under. If you want to add bus connectivity, drop in a station at the Mass Ave/Vassar Street interchange to serve the MIT dorms, Novartis, Astrazenaca, and all of the new commercial development happening north of Vassar and west of Mass Ave. From there, continue the BLX under the GJ, and split it roughly at the MIT Simmons Hall dormitory, with one spur breaking left under the MIT athletic fields, and the other spur continuing on via the GJ to West Station.The "south branch" of the BLX can then tunnel under the MIT athletic fields and back under the Charles to Kenmore Square, where it continues under Brookline Ave with a stop at the old Sears building, before stopping right in the middle of the Longwood Medical area, with a station built under Brookline Ave between Longwood Ave and Francis Street. Now, in addition to connecting MIT and Kendall to the airport and Suffolk Downs, you've just connected Harvard Medical School/BI/BWH with MGH via a 1-seat subway trip, unifying the two halves of Partners Healthcare and the Harvard Medical-Industrial Complex, while putting them both within a transfer at Kendall of the main Harvard campus as well as MIT. In addition, you've just unloaded the Green Line Central Subway with a 5-stop rapid transit ride between Kenmore and Government Center that will take half the time as the same trip via Hynes/Copley/Arlington/Boylston/Park on the Green Line.
>>1325474Now, the other, northern spur, which continues on to West Station via the GJ ROW, can turn north after West and head towards a station at Barry's Corner/Lower Allston, then head west under Western Ave to another crossing under the Charles, from which it continues on to Watertown Center via a tunnel under Arsenal Street with a stop at the Arsenal Mall redevelopment. Once at Watertown, it can stop at a transit hub with the trackless trollies, or if you're really feeling fancy, it can continue under that old abandoned rail ROW that roughly parallels Pleasant Street to a terminus at Waltham Center, or even an extension out to Route 128 or the Polaroid redevelopment via Main Street/Rt 117.
>>1325474>>1325478Can I get a map of this?
>>1325483I'm out flying, but I'll make one when I get home.
>>1325459Each is one specific line or itinerary, but you're right I'll put them all in one pic later. >Do you have an alternate suggestion for L9 where it isn't complete shit? Yes, but there's no point to it since construction has already started. My autism only likes fantasy proposals that could theoretically be done.
>>1325733>>1325735>>1325737>>1325739>>1325741Yeah, my westward extension had the Blue stay on the Back Bay side of the Charles, running under Storrow Drive with stops at the Esplanade Hatch Shell & Exeter Street to get to Kenmore Square...
>>1325772Then it splits soon after to go to Watertown via the route you outlined, or to Riverside via Brighton...
>>1325773And to the north, I kept it simple and kept it south of Lynn Central Square, traveling via the BRB&L right of way through Point of Pines...
>>1325774But most interesting of all, is what I did in Winthrop. an elevated loop that branches off the trunk line at Orient Heights. This was also a route of the BRB&L, although not exactly as I have outlined in the route
>>1324959Yeah, but they ripped up the tracks just like they did with the Arborway part of the E line. Those lines are never coming back. I think re-imagining the service as a rapid transit line is more likely (assuming any of it is likely at all). Plus, Upper Allston needs service badly. I can't get to The Breakfast Club from the green line and that's a disgrace.>>1325298We could if people fucking checked the catalog first. /n/ is not exactly a fast paced board.>>1325478I think Watertown is a good place for it to stop, the T subway lines don't extend out much further than one or two major suburbs of Boston. Beyond that is usually CR/Amtrak territory. Good effortpost btw, thanks for that.
>>1325776>I think Watertown is a good place for it to stop, the T subway lines don't extend out much further than one or two major suburbs of Boston. Beyond that is usually CR/Amtrak territory. Good effortpost btw, thanks for that.Yeah, the Blue Line should run to Watertown via Cambridge and Allston, and to Longwood Medical or Brookline Village via Kenmore.Though I will say that if the T is going to extend the Blue Line to Lynn on the north side, that they should just bite the bullet and push it out all the way to Salem because the ROW is wide enough for it, it'd only be 2 or 3 more stops, and the density is absolutely there. Furthermore, with low-voltage overhead catenary, the Blue Line can handle grade crossings as well as the Green Line, so you wouldn't even have to spend money on grade separation and the only real expensive part would be the station under Salem.
>>1325772This was my original idea, but pragmatically, the T is going to have a far cheaper and easier time digging under either state land like the GJ or the Charles riverbed or MIT's athletic fields than it ever will have digging under Beacon Hill or Back Bay.The other route I had for the Blue Line was going under Charles Street and then running under Commonwealth Ave to Kenmore and then Longwood. The Longwood branch is the key, if only because if you built the Blue Line platforms under the Brookline Avenue between the Kenmore platforms and the Yawkey CR platforms, you could re-name Yawkey to Kenmore and make it all part of one gigantic 3-line station like Park+Downtown Crossing.
>>1326042If your goal is a single seat ride from Longwood to Logan, I've already got that covered with a Yellow Line loop, not unlike The Tube's Circle Line, or Moscow's Koltsevaya Line.
>>1326076This also relieves congestion at Park, State, Gov Ctr, & DTX, as people trying to get from Riverside to Harvard or Logan to Forest Hills can avoid the Downtown Quad
>>1326078If you want to see all the lines and branches, I can post that and where they go.
>>1326076Too expensive, not enough demand in a city as small as Boston. Circle lines only work in massive cities like Moscow or London.
>>1326079But yeah, fire away!
>>1326088I mean, my expansions are far from economic at Boston's current size. If we ever surge to the size of Chicago or Houston (somehow), it'll be more than worth it. On the other hand, Glasgow is of a comparable population with a circle line in the city, so who knows how economic such a line would be>>1326091So there are 6 different lines. Red, Orange, Green, and Blue already exist and have been expanded. Indigo and Yellow are completely new. These will get their own posts because my descriptions are too fucking long for just one.
>>1326112Red Line:So the Red Line has been expanded northward as intended by the northward extension from Harvard to Alewife in the 80s, and then some. These mostly follow railroad ROWsA Branch: Hanscom Field to AshmontB Branch: Waltham Center to BraintreeC Branch: Burlington Mall to Castle IslandM Branch: Ashmont to Mattapan
>>1326114Orange Line:So this is partially expanded northwards as a part of the 1975 Haymarket North extension, but only through Melrose, as CR services have been expanded north of Melrose Highlands. The southward extensions effectively replace most of the CR Needham Line, and restore the line from West Roxbury to Dedham CenterA Branch: Melrose Highlands to ReadvilleB Branch: Bellingham Square to Needham JunctionC Branch: Medford Square to Dedham Center
>>1326115Yellow Line:Yellow's service patterns are a bit different. It's a 4-track loop that connects with every other line in the system. Local trains make all stops, while express trains stop at interchange stations only
>>1326116Green Line:The Green Line the rolling stock has been considerably upgraded, with car lengths more like heavy rail cars. Several stretches of track have been restored and converted to rapid transit linesA Branch: Watertown Square to Kenmore Square, limited rush hour service to Government Center, runs east of Packards Corner Coupled to B Branch trainsB Branch: Newton City Hall to Kenmore Square, limited rush hour service to Government CenterC Branch: Cleveland Circle to West MedfordD Branch: Riverside to Government Center. East of Newton Highlands, trains run coupled to G Branch trains.E Branch: Arborway to LechmereF Branch: Franklin Park to Park Street. Functionally replaces Silver Line Washington Street DivisionG Branch: Needham Junction to Government CenterH Branch: Marine Industrial Park to Waltham Center. Functionally replaces Silver Line Waterfront Division.
>>1326117Blue Line:Previously discussed. Lynn Northern extension, Winthrop elevated loop, Back Bay Green Line alt, Watertown & Newton coverage.A Branch: Lynn Central Square to Watertown SquareB Branch: Winthrop Loop to Riverside
>>1326118Indigo Line:Brand new line, proposed to convert the Fairmount line to DMU service like Paris's RER or Germany's S-Bahn networks, but I converted it to rapid transit and gave it a northward expansionA Branch: Northgate Shopping Center to Dedham Center. Functionally replaces/restores Charlestown El, Atlantic Ave El, Fairmount Line, and part of the Dedham branch from Readville to Dedham Center. Dedham Corp. Ctr ahs been renamed to Dedham Corp. Park to avoid confusion.B Branch: Lynn Central Square to Black Falcon Terminal. Uses the old B&M Saugus Branch & New Haven Track 61
>>1326112>>1326114>>1326115>>1326116>>1326117>>1326118>>1326119Let me know if they're a bit hard to see, I can make them a bit easier to see for you
>>1315052So I just counted every station I have, spread out over 22 states, provinces, and federal districts, and I have 2,577 stations so far. That's more than all of the UK and Ireland combined...What am I doing with my life?
I did a thing
>>1329205this is the current system. Why wouldn't a city of 32k people need a cool new tram?
>>1326121They are hard to see, make the lines bigger please.
>>1329205>>1329207Why have I never heared of this place? Must be among the five largest cities in the state ;^) I like the concept. East Germany has a whole bunch of town tram systems, and they all work. All settlements above 20 000 people should have trams. Why didn't you incorporate the park railroad in the system?
>>1329444>Why didn't you incorporate the park railroad in the system?it goes nowhere and has a 600mm gauge, so yeah.
>>1329435Not gonna post individual screenshots again, so here's an Imgur album:https://imgur.com/a/oYo7sG1
>>1329205How did you make the map/lines/design?
>>1331174My guess is Adobe Illustrator. Am I right?
>>1331174>>1331184It's all done in inkscape, but any vector graphic program will do. The background is made from stitched together openstreetmap screenshots.
>>1315052UPDATE:Finished the Southern Tier in New York, two other lines to Scranton (from Philly via Allentown and Hoboken via Morristown), added a line from Buffalo to London, added lines through the Lehigh and Cumberland Valleys, added a metric shit-ton of branches on the Delmarva peninsula, finished the lines from Pittsburgh to DC, and started on the lines from DC to Greensboro through Charlottesville
So apparently there's a line between Reading and Wilmington that passes through Coatesville...
>>1332622… that's not accounted for on my source map, which means I have to go digging through USGS archives for the route. What have I gotten myself into?
I took some time away from the national network to expand SEPTA. The Market-Frankford Line has been expanded to the Franklin Mills in the Northeast, and given a branch on both ends to the Navy Yard and Roxboro in the NorthwestThe Broad Street line has been expanded south to the airport and Tinicum via the Navy Yard, and the Ridge spur extended to Whitman in South Philly. It also was extended north to Bustleton in the Northeast and Laverock just outside the cityMany subway-surface and suburban trolley routes were restored: Routes 30, 38, 42, 103, and 104 have been reestablished as trolley routes. Surface routes have been started but not yet finished. 15 has been extended to Frankford via Bridesburg, and I plan on bringing Routes 23, 56, 60, and 6 back, and maybe doing something with the abandoned Reading Terminal viaductPATCO Speedline has been incorporated into the SEPTA network, and expanded with branches to Maple Shade, Overbrook, and Bala Cynwyd. Thoughts?