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>>1279995
No ride today but bumping for the graphic
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There’s already a new thread up you stupid faggot
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>>1280136
This one was posted first. So you wrote that in the wrong thread.
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>>1279995
>I'm not going to buy anymore bikes
>opportunity comes up to buy a bunch of bike stuff for significantly less than it is worth
>sell a lot (but not all of it) for a profit
>now I have two more bikes... but I was basically paid to take them home so how could I say no?
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>>1279995
below freezing on my way in to work, 63f on my way home. ATL is crazy that way.
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Nofreeze ,,nightspringtime.
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guy puts up an add for a folding bike for 200. I assumed he means 200,000 of the local currency. The bike is 275,000 new so I start talking to him asking if he can meet me by the train station in his town

He wants usd, about 230,000 of the local currency, when brand new it's 275,000


Basically he's charging 200 for something only 255 new, I don't know much about bikes but that doesn't seem right for even a lightly used bike
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>>1280439
OK
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>>1280441
Is this normal for bikes?
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>>1280442
It's normal for sales of all kinds of used things: the guy assumes that if he listed the practically-new bike for the full retail price nobody would buy it, because they'd just go get an actually-new bike instead.
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>>1280445
I mean in bikes how much cheaper should they be after being ,"lightly used"?
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>>1280452
It depends
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>>1280453
10/10 n response
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>>1280454
There’s no set rules in depreciation. The issue is confounded by not knowing the specific model of bike.
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>>1280459
It is a CAMOU mountain minivelo 20“ expedition

Retails at about 250$ and they are selling it for $200. They had two of these as a couple and have upgraded to road bikes and a bike rack.
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>>1280461
Im just after a bike that will take me the 4km to the train station in about 15min instead of 40 minutes on the bus. Fuck busses
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I think I may have managed to pinch-flat my fatbike today.
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>>1280462
>>1280461
That shit's not worth anywhere near $250
Probably trying to get rid of overpriced garbage
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We got +8C after several days of snowfall so all the forest tracks were water over ice or packed snow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQDRGy9mYCc
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>>1279995
I have bought a total of one bike in my entire career. The next 40 I had were all built from ground up.

>>1280565
This. Pic related is what this sludge of road salt, water and grime does after a few days of riding in it.
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Yesterday was my first ride in 9 days due to below -20C weather. I missed a brief warm period last Sunday morning before the wind picked up to 80 km/h. Its back below -20C for the next week, and nothing in the 2 week forecast above -15C. This is going to be my least amount of biking in years. Going to have to do some running to maintain some fitness.
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>>1280641
Nasty
Cheap chain though?
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traced the edges of the gowanus canal for a while, then stopped for coffee. headed back home via the riverside greenway.
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>>1281443
>traced the edges of the gowanus canal

I'm not your momma and it's not like you are eating catfish from there but shouldn't that canal be avoided since it's a Superfund site?
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>>1280641

Oooof nothing triggers a bike builder more than a rusty chain on his fine steed. I still have PTSD from those few months i lived at the beach. Just the salt spray from the air would just absolutely rust drive rains in a few days + Sand crunching Yikes. We had some bad rain and floods and and just a few immesions was enough to sieze my hollotech BB with ceramic bearings, It was all too much i had move back for sake of my poor bikes.
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>>1281466
yes, it should be avoided. i wasn't swimming in it tho.
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>>1280439
What kind of folding bike?
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one of those days where it was clear when i left the house and within a block it started to rain.
no problem, I've got a wool hat and a leather jacket, I turned on my lights, the rain is fine
Within a few more blocks, hat and leather were soaked.
meh. this sucks but it's just water.
coming up to the big intersection, the following block goes to one lane for a school crossing so most drivers stay left unless they're making a right at the big intersection (USA). I stay right and coast, the couple cars ahead of me make their right on red before I reach them.
RIGHT BEFORE I reach the intersection, the light goes green and a guy in the left lane swerves into my lane to get around the guy in front of him waiting to turn left.
If I hadn't braked and juked all the way to the edge of the lane, he would have side-swiped me.
I bang on his car with my fist. we both continue on, he pulls ahead.
middle of the next block is the school crossing and the crossing guard had stopped traffic. wouldn't you know, the black Honda that just decided my life was not worth waiting a few seconds is the first car stopped.
I pull right around in front of his bumper and dismount.
HEY, YOU FUCK! YOU ALMOST KILLED ME, FAGGOT!
I'm raging. I'm cussing and using hate-speech in front of grade-school kids and the nice crossing-guard lady that I usually smile and say hello to. This is majorly uncool. Fuck him, but I've got to bring myself under control. By the time I've fully snapped out of it, I'm at the next intersection. I pull off looking for some cover to put my rain gear on--which I do need--but taking a moment for myself is welcome at this point.

On the one hand, I'm glad I stood up to the asshole driver, but I don't like that I blew my cool, especially in front of the school.
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>>1282024
>YOU ALMOST KILLED ME,
,,NEXTIME,,TRYHARDER!,
,ninja cager assasins,,thereschool forthis.,
,,Allcages,,expecthe worst,,Sneaky attacks.
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>>1282083
Big temperature swing from all those previous 80+ pics.
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>>1282086
wait,,,,,fiveminutes.,morningpic.,
,,nowpic.
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So I punched a mirror clean off a cage today.

>going through parking lot, rolled stop sign because nobody near me
>cager about 50 feet behind me leans on his horn as if I accosted him
>pickup (of course) and guy with goatee (of course)
>he roars up next to me, cutting me off aggressively as he passes
>tries to speed off because I'm just a bikefag
>chase him through the parking lot to the exit where he is stuck behind 2 cars in left turn lane
>cut between him and people in right lane, closed fist that mirror
>to my surprise it flies off like it was made of paper
>slam brakes on in middle of road, blocking traffic like suicidal maniac
>unclip, throw bike over shoulder, walk to stand in front of his truck challenging him to a duel
>notice his wife in passenger seat, who is screaming hysterics at him
>he backs up and cuts across 2 lanes of traffic to get away

Dude was my age, late 30s maybe, big stonk looking bastard. Peeled off like a little bitch though, so that felt good. In all my years of riding this is the first time anything has gotten physical, and the first time I have ever used the term "cager" but it's literally the first thing that popped into my head as he was trying to run me off the road: "Fucking cager faggot".

Was I in the wrong? Yes. Did he handle it appropriately? No. Would I change any of it in retrospect? No.
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>>1282083
thanks bacon. I'll use that one next time.
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>>1282092
I remember the first time I went after a mirror, a fucking stupid yuppie bitch pulled out right in front of me when I was hauling ass--nobody behind me, either. I'm just supposed to brake for queenie when she decides to enter the road. of course she was stopped at a red light less than a minute later.
so, I'm about to overtake her when it dawns on me that I'll bend her mirror to annoy her, it just broke right off in my hand. fragile little things.
at first I was shocked because I didn't mean for it to happen.
a moment later, I was all everythingwentbetterthanexpected.jpg
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Very cold and wet in Oregon this week
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too cold to ride today in PA

here is a picture from warmer days
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>>1282114
Nice, where is this in PA?
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Great ride, the rain hit so it's quite green out.
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So much salt out today.
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>>1282180
Took my time and cleaned it.
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>>1282182
You went from oof to minty clean anon, good job.
I hope you really blasted the salt out of the chain bushings and re oiled the cable guide under the BB as well.

Can we see the whole bike? It looks like a QT.
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Been commuting regularly again for a few months now. I've optimised my route pretty well to avoid traffic/lights/major roads etc but it's a bit frustrating because it's kind of stop and start.

Even doing bigger rides on the weekend feels kinda like I'm plateauing again. Need to push HARDER.

>>1282180
Saw pics of the NYC salt on bikesnobs blog, holy shit that stuff looks revolting, Makes me glad to never have to deal with that kind of gunk.
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>>1282197
Would some intervals get you past your plateau, or do you think it might be more because of diet/rest?
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>>1282200
intervals would help for sure, could probably use a bit more sleep too. I'm not exactly doing badly but do recall seeing somewhere if you're trying to recover properly and such getting close to 9 hours is beneficial.
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>>1282196
This is an "old" pic of the bike, you can see the salt on the floor.. have to wash it off every day now.
Didn't have the time to re oil it but I think I got all the salt off.

I'm at work so I'll get back with another pic later.
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>>1282113
Bruh you gotta rotate your big ring until that pin sits behind the crank arm
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>>1282202
Yeah, hard intervals and crazy low intensity work is too often neglected even by many people that take riding seriously.
Rest is absolute key, sleep hygiene and getting enough rest time while avoiding as much stress as possible will make a difference.
Periodisation is a form of rest, but might not apply to your situation anon.

>>1282207
Nice rig for getarounds, commuting, and light touring anon, I like it.
Looks to be low maintenance too, but of course, that salt will kill your mechanicals if you don't stay on top of cleaning and re lubing, of course.
9/10 steed, would slap supple all season tires on in the warm season and take it across the country areas.
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>>1282213
Thanks man, I've had it since they launched it last year (trek checkpoint).
So far i've fitted a lot of different tires on it. Studded is working gear in winter.

Gf got the same model and shes riding to school every day on it.

I want the snow to smelt tho, I got some sweet plans cooking in the drawer.
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>>1282218
Looks like a pretty nice stash anon!
Most of my tires in my stash are 28c for allround road riding, buying a bike to suit 40c is on the cards hopefully this year.
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>>1282237
I just didnt like the overall look of my gravel bike with 28c on. I'll see if I switch back or if I'll stay with the 40c.
I got 40c studded on atm and its comfy as fuark and I like doing adventure rides for +15 hours in good weather so hoping these Supremes will be a good choice.
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>>1282162
D&L trail mauch chunk
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>>1282238
Sounds mega comfy doing long rides like that on a semi offroad course.
Sadly we're in summer here and the UV and dehydration are really serious issues, but autumn will be upon us soon enough!

I reckon those supremes will be choice, just get that pressure right and you'll be having a blast.
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>>1282267
Thanks man!

Get some armcoolers with UV protection and you should be alright, got some last summer and they helped a lot in 30c weather.
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Today on my commute home, i first experienced going over the bars. Hopefully I was slow, but still hit my face quite hard. Nothing broken but my lips are swollen.

I feel bad, i dont have confidence riding bikes anymore.
Have you had a time like this before, /n/?
how did you overcome it?
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>>1282435
the very first time I rode a bike I went OTB.
get back on that horse, cowboy.
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>>1282435
Learn that your greatest fear is fear itself. It is only when you fear, you make mistakes. One of those mistakes could cost you your life. Ride hard, ride fast, and most importantly ride confidently. You survived this OTB, learn from this experience to prevent it from happening again. Traumatic experience can be used to foresee danger like a 6th sense but do not fear reexperiencing trauma, you've survived it before, you can survive it again. It's only when you fear the experience completely, you're bound to repeat it.
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>>1282435
what happened, did you rear wheel lock up and skid, did it actually lift off the ground and throw you over, or did you just not brace yourself ?
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>>1282518
It was totally my mistake, I was not holding the handlebars properly and on a bump my hands slipped off. After that I don't really know what else happened, as I was on the floor bleeding a lot. Even my bike had some blood on the handlebars.
>>1282514
I should be more careful too. This happened because I wasn't doing things the right way.
>>1282478
Thank you anon.
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>>1282435
You poor baby! A swollen lips? We let people on disability for life for less!

Also - stop being a vagina. Accept the inevitable consequences of whatever you are doing. In cycling, it means that you _will_ kiss termac at significant speed at certain point in time. You _will_ get caged and whatnot.

If you want to be safe, stay at home and fap to anime waifus.
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>>1282533
>I was not holding the handlebars properly and on a bump my hands slipped off.
This sounds like you havnt got your bike fitted for you. Youre suppose to be able to ride with your hands behind your back. Damn, even when I commute to work I just relax my shoulders and let the front tire take the bumps for me. Sometimes I realise I'm abit too close to the bar with my face because I'm too relaxed.
>pic unrelated
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>>1282589
dude, you're a dick.
yes, going OTB and getting hit by cars are inevitable. It's happened to all of us replying. Personally, I'd have to backtrack and concentrate to give an exact figure how many times I've been hit.
But the only one being meanspirited about it is the fucking tripfag--what a surprise!
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>>1282861
Most tripfags thrive on validation and giving them (You)'s only encourages them to be more obnoxious.

To piss them off like nothing else, delete one of the > 's from your quote if you must reply, like so:
>1282861
This way, you'll starve them of attention and they'll atrophy from the lack of attention.

Also, to stay on topic: I've only come off over the bars 3 times or so, each faster than the last time and the latest time cost me considerable ass skin.
But that's biking.
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>>1282589
you sound like a really annoying cunt m8.
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>>1282435
consider it a wake up call, a painful little lesson.
you've really got to pay attention all the time or you're going to get hurt - you know that now, can go back to riding your bike.
hope you feel better !
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>>1282238

40mm Supremes sounds nice... If safety bothers you ...
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>>1283276
Laws in my country says that I need sideway reflextion on my bike so the stripes on the tires are a nice addon.
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>>1282589
This is yet more proof that BaconRider should be the only tripfag allowed on /n/. Maybe the boomer guy.
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>>1283383
Bacon is based, Boomer can be insufferable, Trybo is tryhard, and then there's that Zeshin china bike guy who's ok
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thanksomuch!,,itsnice you letme onthefield.,
,,,itrip,,toavoid Ever tar/n/ishing., your tolerance,,Givesme hope,,yourthreads,giveme Dreams,,,OfGlory!
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>>1283496
>>1283497
And this is why you're based, Bacon. Ride on fren
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>>1283276
ACHTUNG! SCHWEINHUND! DU WILST NICHT DEN RIEFENREFLEKTIVKLEBSTREIFEN ENTFERNEN!
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>>1282435
Update:
I'm back on the bike. I am still a little bit scratched but being back on the bike felt great, as always.
Thank you /n/.
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>>1283517
>I'm back on the bike. I am still a little bit scratched but being back on the bike felt great, as always.
>Thank you /n/.
get a fixed gear now
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7th day of treadmill jogging instead of going out in the cold, it got down to -40 a few times last week. Supposed to get above -20C this week, so I'll try to do a bit of riding. Still nothing above -14C forecast over the next 2 weeks.
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>>1280462
Walk the 4km?
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>go on a 10 mile blast down a MUP that's usually crowded
>freezing and icy so nobody's out to get in my fucking way
>set multiple PBs
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Anyone just like going for a ride for 20 mins or so?
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>>1284236
yeah.
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>>1283509
fuck all reflective strip nazi fascist bullshit
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Happymusic,,,laaalaaalala, watching tracksin thesnow andirt,,,quail,,,deer,,doggos,,sneaker shoes,,,,,seemy tracks from yesterday,,ride on my tracks,,(tocover my numbers!),,
,SSSSSSCREEETCH!!CUE PSYCHO MUSIC!!REEE REEE REEEEE!,
,glove flys off,,glasss downas i STARE,,fingers reach to feel the track like RobinsonCurouso!!,
,,,,schwalb!!,posibly super marathon!,
,THESE,,arenot My Tracks!,,Head swivels up for thousand yard stare!,hand flexstogun!,,,,dusty wind.,
,,,another trike!,thiner profile,,,more roady tires,,new,pumpedup tohigh for gravely trails,,, new,young,,lite,,,drove intentionaly on MYTRACKSINCE yesterday!,
,,,,,,oneofmykind!
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>>1284806
that was me, bacon.
I'm-a huntin' you down!
look out!
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There is a rollover in the GPS week data field coming up on April 6th. Possible Stravageddon if devices haven't been designed to compensate for it.
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>>1284236
20-30 minute max intensity hammerfests are great but for other rides that's way too short
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>>1279995
Took my meme machine on the train.
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>>1285316
Smug/10

>>1284808
>>1284806
Evocative/10
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>>1282087
>>1282086
I was camping at Bryce Canyon in Utah and the temperatures swings surprised me in late May. Daytime temperatures were around 60-70f (20c) but I woke up in the middle of the night too cold to sleep. I only packed a medium weight sleeping bag and I was not expecting to wake up to 20f (-7c) degrees. That afternoon it was back to being warm out.
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-15C tomorrow so I should be able to do my 2nd ride of the month. We've broken an 80 year old cold streak record, 11 straight days below -20C, and -30 or lower every night.

If climate change is making this wacky jet stream the new normal, we're fucked.
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>>1279995

I have a hybrid that is 17 years old, a mountain bike that has parts between 12-21 years. Apart from brake blocks and tyres. Bikes just keep on going. People really get jewed on low to medium spec bikes these days. Shimano Tourney should only be on bikes for toddlers.
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Fat bike event coming up on Monday, but its going to be cold, -19C. Over the past few years they've been a good opportunity to get free bike shit. The LBS usually grabs a bunch of stuff from their clearance bin to give away, plus a couple more expensive prizes for the race winners. Typically there have been more prizes than participants, so everybody gets something.

It got up to -13C while I was out today. Fresh powder last night and blowing yesterday evening make the MUP largely unrideable and it won't get plowed until Tuesday. Need a bit more foot traffic to create a single track channel, at least the dog walkers are good for something. I would have been better off snowshoeing today as I could have make a path that would be rideable tomorrow.
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Enough foot traffic to make it possible to ride on the MUP with only a few places I had to get off and push. Many places I would have been able to ride if there was no foot traffic at all. But once people start creating foot holes you can't ride through it without them yanking the front wheel around. In a few places where people hadn't walked straight down the middle of the path I was about to chug along through the undisturbed powder.
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went for a boomer roll on the west side greenway. there were a surprising amount of normies out for the weather, ~36 freedom units with light wind. there were a good number of people out on citibikes. stopped by rapha clubhouse for coffee and croissant, then back up the greenway during golden hour. comfy af.
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>>1287299
that bike is absurdly cool
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>pull some cold weather gear out of closet
>covered in cat hair from cat that died a year ago
:(
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>>1287557
:( F, I have a feeling you're there same anon that made a post about a cat dieing in a /drt/ a while ago
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Temperature for today's fat bike race ended up being about the same as last year, -14C, but sunny instead of cloudy and less windy so it wasn't at all miserable.

Only half as many people as last year, I think the forecast -19C scared a lot of people off. The airport temp was -23, the car read -19, but it was warmer out on the lake. I'm guessing the sun plus sun reflected off the snow contributed quite a bit of heat. The temperature dropped again as I rode back to the car.

Having done little riding all month my HR was 182 the entire 10 minutes after the first test lap leading up to the rolling start. Stood around too long after the race and my wet balaclava started turning to ice when I left. So I had to stop part of the way back to the car to put a dry one on when my forehead started going numb. Of course while doing that my hands started going numb, but they warmed back up as I got to the parking lot.

The forecast changed so now I've got 5 straight days of nice riding weather coming up this week.
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>>1287564
That sounds awesome. Physically challenging and slightly dangerous adventures in nature really make me feel alive

I've started riding again after three years. I rode a fixed gear basket bike few miles to FedEx and to buy baby formula. Full fenders so no issue with the rain. Long term plans are a Dynamo hub and doing all of our family errands at night to cost my head and stay thin
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>>1279995
I ride my bike every day, usually across town to get groceries or to Church
can't wait to fully realize my Rigid 90s MTB with Thickslicks Road Gearing and Gripshift. then I'll start touring the country as an evangelist and liberating myself from my dismal existence as a mentally impaired quasi-eunuch
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>MEMO TO PEDESTRIANS:
IDGAF if it's a 'Multi-use path', that does NOT mean you walk side-by-side down the center of it, blocking the entire paved surface, you walk single-file at the *edge* of the pavement so cyclists don't have to come almost to a complete stop to get around your slow fat asses.

Warmest regards,
All Cyclists
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>>1287860
just get a bell dum ass
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>>1287860
ride on the road
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I got hit by a car today
just the wing mirror
he was going like 60 k/ 40 mph
I was right on the side of the road
He didn't stop
there's a bruise on my arm
didn't fall over though
less than a foot from being hospitalised for sure
scary stuff

stay safe bros
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>>1287881
>>1287883
we have a compelling argument here
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>>1287888
I got hit by a bike today
just the handle bars
he was going like 40 k/ 25 mph
I was right on the side of the road
He didn't stop
there's a bruise on my arm
didn't fall over though
less than a foot from being hospitalised for sure
scary stuff

stay safe bros
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>>1287889
ah yes, the classic false equivalence
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>>1287890
*posts story about the one britbong fixiefag who killed a pedestrian*
SEE? SEE???
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>>1287889
>>1287888
I wasn't trying to make any kind of argument
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>>1287892
cringe
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Five day trip to Bariloche, including crossing the border both ways to and from Chile. Had to call the first crossing short since we caught pouring rain and our camping stuff and spare clothes got soaked, the way back was better, nice long climb to the border then a loooong ass descent to customs. Roads in Bariloche were never flat, always rolling terrain, lots of curves, strong winds in every direction, and gorgeous forests and lakes everywhere. Good stuff.
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>>1287903
sounds really cool
post some more pics
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>>1287860
all of you are wrong. a multi use path is for everyone. pedestrians are allowed to walk side by side in their own lane, cyclists are supposed to safely pass them.

>>1287880
bells are not effective when everyone's got their airpods in

>>1287881
the mup is for everyone.
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>>1287903
>camping stuff

Where the hell is your tent?
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>>1287904
Here's a short clip near the end of the Circuito Chico, very popular little loop. Only about 50km long but climbs and descents all the way through, this was the highest point IIRC
>>1287907
The folding sticks and tent cover are inside my pannier (left) and the rest is on top of my buddy's bike's rack (right)
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>>1287883
Don't ride on the road, unironically. Things have gotten visibly more dangerous since I started riding in 2008.
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>>1287914
Holy shit... Jealous
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>>1282435
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5XRczTTuoc
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>>1287883
Police in my state don't care if you ride on the sidewalk.

Riding on the road is a deathwish. Americans listening to music with headphones, playing with phones, and eating food while driving... yeah, not worth it.
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>>1287984
What state?
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>>1287830
about what I figured
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>>1287914
fucking gorgeous
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>>1282435
Just keep riding. I felt a bit nervous in traffic for a bit after getting hit by a car once but it went away after a couple weeks.
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>>1287914
Holy shit that's gorgeous
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>>1288226
these days my rides are almost half the distance of my long runs, back when I was training for the 5000. it's great!
today I rode to the track and did a few laps. they've started a XC bicycle club at the high school!
some time later this week I'm going to ride to Petaluma and scope the Chvrch and the Nike Outlet where a sale is happening.
>>1287914
quite a view!
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>>1287880
I'm not putting a bell on a TT bike.

To be fair: when I've got a regular road bike again I might put a bell on it -- just to screw with people when I race at crits.
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>>1287881
>>1287888
>ride on the road
We have 32 miles of paved path, wide enough for emergency vehicles, following the American river, totally uninterrupted by any motor vehicle traffic. Everyone uses it for training of some sort or another. Why should I put up with controlled intersections and motor vehicle traffic if I don't have to?

>>1287906
There are *rules* and they say that foot traffic should stay to the *sides* out of the way of bicycles. Besides which it's mainly made for bicycles anyway; otherwise it wouldn't need to even be paved, it could be gravel. Pedestrians need to GTFO of the way and not block everything up. BTW a bell wouldn't make any more difference than me yelling at them, they still don't get it.
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>>1288313
a bell is friendly
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>>1288309
I'm going to make a startup that manufactures aero bells and bike racks
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>>1288313
>Why should I put up with controlled intersections and motor vehicle traffic if I don't have to?
Oh, don't get me wrong, I'm the second anon you replied to and I agree entirely.
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>>1288323
MKS already offers aero bells, anon
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fuck my life
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First loaded ride on the grocery fixie tonight... 6 miles of MUP
So many things wrong with the bike but it was great
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>>1287299
I would absolutely need details on that crome handlebar, please. It's perfect for frame I intend to build up...
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How my Bikebros doing this fine winter?
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>>1280462
>v-barke
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>>1288746
ouch!
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Starting to get a balaclava tan. Strange having to wear sunscreen when riding in -15C weather.
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>>1289055
Winter was pretty much canceled here. We had like a week of snow, but never enough that it stayed on the road. Now I'm back to wearing my wind breaker over a t-shirt and no gloves.
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Bong reporting. It's already 18 degrees in the daytime and I'm wearing short bibs and jersey, it's baller as fuck.

About to go out and do food delivery, will take leg and arm warmers in the bag but it's unlikely to be necessary.



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