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Birds don't crash Edition

Welcome to the /gag/~

/gag/ is dedicated to all the pilots and pilot applicants out there, and although the name suggests otherwise, airline, military, and charter discussion is welcome. Keep it on topic, keep the shit throwing to a minimum.

Previous thread is slowly sinking here: >>1256986
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Can somebody explain a retard how auto rotation on helicopters work?
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>>1275388
Basically you're converting your height (potential energy) into rotational (kinetic) energy.
And then when you're right above the ground you use the kinetic energy in the blades to slow the heli down just before landing.
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>>1275419
So, it makes a fan spin, fast, and when you're about to land you just pull the lever, which makes magic and creates uplift?
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>>1275425
Based on this message it seems like you don't understand how normal powered flight on helicopters works. Maybe you should look into that before you start thinking about autorotation.

I recommend looking up the FAA Helicopter Flying Handbook. Specifically read chapters 1 and 2. It explains basic aerodynamics and helicopter-specific concepts (including autorotation) in pretty much the most basic way you'll find.
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>>1275429
>FAA Handbooks
Didn't know that such thing existed.
Thanks m8.
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>>1275385
Is this the right thread (board?) to talk about flight sim?
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>>1276723
/simg/ on /vg/ is decent if you ignore the shitposting but it's too slow here imo
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>>1275431
>>1275429
There are audio versions of some of the FAA handbooks on Librivox.

I'm going in my instrument checkride soon, any recommendations as far as what to focus on? Any sticking points that you all may have had or advice in general?
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>>1276723
>Aero Commander

/my guy/
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What's the comfiest plane?
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>>1277004
I liked Iberia A340-600's
4 hairdryers are much quieter than 2 heat guns on 777....
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>>1277020
I've heard that the 340-600 flies really slowly, but is very efficient

Tru or false someone call me out on this pls
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>>1277039
If 340's were efficient, they won't stop making them.
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>>1277004
C152 listening to AM rock stations on the ADF with the windows open. assuming you're flying with with someone you like.
Alternate answer: Bellanca Super Viking (pic related)
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would you buy this or dump it
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>>1277302
Okay, having boat-plane is nice, but does it double as a car?
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A footballer likely died after the plane he was flying in went missing over the England Channel.
>Sources have informed Ouest-France that the plane now missing that had Emiliano Sala on board had difficulties in taking off from Nantes airport & had to attempt the procedure 3 or 4 times before successfully ending up in the air
>After a troublesome first flight, he told his friend and ex-teammate Nicolas Pallois, who brought him to the airport for his return flight, that he had concerns about the safety of the flight".

At what point do you stop respecting the pilots for their experience and expertise, and instead question things for the safety of your own life?
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>>1277331
the minute they had to attempt the procedure 3 or 4 times you should have asked to leave the plane.
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>>1277334
Why pilots couldn't take off 3-4 times?
I see no other reasons, beside shitty weather, shitty A/C, or shitty pilot.
In all three cases shit should be aborted...
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>>1277382
exactly. you wouldnt see a table with a crack and say "lets add more weight to it"
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>>1277389
Well, depends, maybe I want to break the table...
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>>1277004
Solo in a piper cub on a 60 degree day
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>>1277581
I thought you used the metric system down under
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>>1277603
Glider pilot master race reporting in. Really wish it was summer again. Can't wait to get in my glider and fly for 6 hours straight. Gonna drop a few pics
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>>1277906
>tfw a stranger joins you in thermal bubble and you wave hands at one another
Feelsgoodman
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How composite passenger planes are built? Do they have aluminium/titanium structure under plastic?
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Where can you go to simulate an Air Traffic Control plane situation? There's a test I'm trying to prepare for and it involves a lot of factors like altitude, weather, flying speed, turning speed, fuel, urgency of the plane itself etc. The test is done on a console where you simulate planes landing at Adelaide airport. There's a few thousand applicants for an uncertain number of positions and I'd really like to secure this job, so is there any method of practicing this (or a similar simulation) beforehand?
Thanks /gag/
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>>1277907
fucking sky cyclists get out of my way and learn how to use a radio
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>>1278010
>sky cyclists
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>>1278010
Pedals powering a small propeller in a light plane like the Ka-6 would probably be nice.
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>>1278043
Just calculated it:
I would need just over 500W to keep altitude, so I couldn`t keep it up with my own power alone.
However I could extend my range to find thermals quite a lot by pedaling 250W and gliding about twice as far.
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>>1277898
It's been literally years since I've been in a glider. kindof sucks cause I moved somewhere with zero gliding clubs
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>>1278045
Only 500W?
I think you can install motor from chainsaw, it has like 2 kW...
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>>1278010
What do you think the red button is for ya daft cheeky wanker?
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where's my Mooney guys at?
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>>1278069
They did that with the K-8 B Stihl in 1960.
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>>1278638
I think I will design my own flying machine now...
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFO-uRHzSrc

What do you think about this: metal fatigue, or slav pilots pushing it too hard?
Idk, landing seemed normal. Sure, it is kinda hard, but bounce action was not that great.
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>>1278827
Wtf is that real? It looks fake
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>>1278878
It is real.
https://ria.ru/20190127/1549973253.html
https://news.rambler.ru/army/41618072-katastrofu-tu-22m3-sprovotsirovalo-vmeshatelstvo-izvne/

Btw, they blame crew, as always. Still, it didn't looked like they abused it badly.
Civil aircrafts can perform much more bumpier landings...
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CFI training fucking blows. I’m the only student at my school doing this, so I just sit at home and turn my lesson plans into power point slides. I feel so unmotivated
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any Florida bros fly lately?
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>>1277909
For composite planes, pretty much everything that would be made with sheet metal, like the skin, stringers, and frames, is replaced with composites. Metals are still used for things with more complex shapes, like wing ribs, or anything that has a lug. They might also use metals for places with high heat or moisture, splices, and places that would hit the ground if a crash occurred, since metals can absorb energy much better than composites.

Still, it's amazing how much of the structure can be made purely out of composites.
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>>1278827
Brutal

Like you said, the landing didn't seem particularly rough, and military aircraft are typically designed to withstand some really brutal maneuvers. I would guess that either inspections weren't kept up as they should have been or that the recommended inspection cycle wasn't good enough. Back when the plane was designed, no one really worried about widespread fatigue damage (which later brought down Aloha Airlines flight 243), so if they never updated the inspection cycle to account for that, maybe that's what happened here. For flight 243, the crack link-up and subsequent decompression happened while at altitude, but that's because the cabin pressure was the driving loading. Since this Tu-22M wouldn't be pressurized, the driving loading would be landing.

TL;DR they should probably retire these, or at least mod them or inspect them better or something
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>>1279141
Been flying a bunch. In state, out of state. Taildraggers, light twins, fast retract singles, all of it.
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>>1279557
Until yesterday most of my students have been getting shafted by winds and low IFR. It’s been depressing
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>>1277050
>Bellanca Super Viking

My planefu, desu
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>>1278619

One of my customers is selling his m20c and the buyer just wants it for the engine and prop... I'm bummed out
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>>1277382

Probably so gutless it had to burn off 3-4 takeoff runs worth of fuel before it could get airborne
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>>1275385
>Birds don't crash Edition
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I need help.

Does anyone know anything about either Phoenix East Aviation in Daytona Beach, or Epic Flight Academy in New Smyrna, Florida?
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>>1279956
Yeah those epic air retards are always shitting up whatever freq they're on.
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>>1280016
is there anything wrong with the school or is it just new student pilots that are annoying?
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>>1280070
Beats me desu I haven't really interacted with them outside of hearing atc get annoyed as they miss radio calls.

>>1279567
The winds have sucked ass recently, all my guys are trying to get their solos done and we keep canceling.
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>>1280782
>tfw always miss radio calls because volume turned down low and instructor always talking to me when they call
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>>1281014
>tfw we both miss radio calls because student is rattling off speeds and callouts at full volume like an autist.
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>>1279141
I flew 35 hours in 5 days this week, all dual given.
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What are some of the best/most cost effective ultralights for a poorfag just trying to get in the air? I've been looking at Quicksilvers, but they're difficult to find used and the kits are like $12k< brand new. Is there any point in trying to find one for less than $4-5k? Planning on taking lessons in the spring and hoping to work my way up to LSA certification this year.
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ok lads im feeling motivated, gonna get my visa and apply for an airline
we all are gonna make it, right?
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>>1282026
Yes, thanks to Sky King's sacrifice. Fly high brother, do it for Beebo
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>>1277004
Iberia A330 on the back of premium economy
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>>1281865

usually ultralight doods avoid certification, because it means you need a pilots license and your aircraft needs an N number.

both of those cost more money
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Man it's easy to forget that flying is actually fun when you don't have some idiot sitting next to you trying to kill you and break the law.
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>>1278619
Did my complex time in one and I am in love. I am going to buy one some day in the not too distant future.
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>all the pilots are kill
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So today I was surveying up high above a bravo and ATC called up to let me know they were going "ATC zero" and to keep my code, they'll be back a little later. All IFR flights getting vectored around me stopped and either diverted or continued onto their destination if they were lucky enough to get out. So I was above this huge airspace completely alone for like a half hour when ATC came back and told me that there was a fire in the approach radar facility and they had to shut down for it. Pretty wild.
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So at my flight school, we have a guy who happens to be the CEO of a survey company that likes to hire graduates of said school. He says he likes to give low-time guys opportunities.

Most everyone in my Commercial class (4/5 people) is applying for a spot at this certain place, including myself.

Now we have a CFI/CFII/MEI at that same school, who already has students for the summer, that is telling all of us in this recent class that he's going to apply and take a spot.

Am I being unreasonable or is he being a fucking douche? He already has a job, has close to 1000 hours TT and is still trying to take a spot from one of us who need it a lot more than him. I'm all for healthy competition, but he doesn't need the job, he's just fucking one of us over honestly.
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>>1285781
Comes across is kinda douchey to me desu. Everyone knows you either get a CFI or buy your own hours, so why do that?
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>>1285781

The culture that you are trying to be a part of is like that.

Fact of the matter is, if he can prevent one of you laughable asshats from becoming competition he is improving life for himself and the other eight asshats.

If anything, he is being charitable. If it were me, I would make sure none of you ever have aviation related jobs at all.
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>>1285833
This guy gets it
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>>1285833
You know what, maybe you're right.

I'm objectively the most professional and qualified of everyone in my class, so the odds of me getting one of the spots are pretty high. But if this fuck takes a spot that he doesn't need and someone else gets shafted, i hope he doesn't ever run into a situation where the tables are turned because we'll fuck him over too.
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>>1285452
did you break any regs while they were gone? That was your chance
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>>1285781
Man, flying sounds cutthroat.
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>>1285781
While I can see how you guys might feel shafted by this, the instructor is more qualified. Full stop. If he gets the job, it's because he didn't want to instruct anymore and has decided to apply to something a little different, something that he qualifies for with ease. I could be wrong about this detail but with his total time he will likely fly completely different equipment than a fresh commercial anyways.
In my humble opinion, most new pilots should instruct for a little while anyways because it's a relatively low risk environment that forces you to fill in gaps of your own personal knowledge. If you don't want to instruct and you're deadset on survey that's fine, but don't expect anyone to hand you a job, you have to go out and find one.
Get used to it because the entire industry runs off seniority and qualifications.



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