https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breitspurbahn>ywn travel from Lisboa to Helsinki in a rolling hotelWhy live? How could would it be to have trains of that size coasting across our beloved homeland? Please tell me we can revive the project.
*blocks your path*
>ywn travel from from New York City to Los Angeles in a luxury Nuclear Supertrain Why live? How could would it be to have trains of that size coasting across our beloved homeland? Please tell me we can revive the project.
>>1261774some engineeringfag once explained that it was technically not very sound, as it would put huge strains on the axles.A better idea would be to have a train using two parallel conventional train lines, as in using 4 tracks, and 4 bogies for each car. That way, it would use normal train axles and would be much more stable, but with the size and capacity of the Breitspurbahn. Also this kind of rail line could also be used by regular trains, since it's basically two train tracks next to each other.
>>1261774It was a useless size wank like the Maus tank, like Germania, and a bunch of other stupid shit Hitler dreamed of. Standard gauge is better suited for everything from tram to freight trains to passenger HSR.
>>1261774>Objections from railway experts — who foresaw difficulties in introducing a new, incompatible gauge (and proposed 4-track standard gauge lines instead), and who could not imagine any use for the vast transport capacity of such a railway — were ignored/n/ is full of armchair railway experts, never change /n/.
>>1261827I don't think that would work.Keyword: Banking. Two parallel tracks' rails are not necessarily on the same plane at all times.
>>1261774Well- ocean liners were floating hotels, Zeppelins were flying hotels, and neither of them are around anymore (at least on the same scale). It's all about instant gratification travel nowadays- there's no need for a rolling hotel from San Francisco to New York or Lisboa to Helsinki when you can just fly there in a couple hours time.
>>1261877They can be banked as one, and they'd still work for normal trains. Obv the whole idea still would require rebuilding such lines, for proper trackage, clearances, banking, etc.. A similar effort to the Breitspurbahn, but with better results.
>>1262040Cruise ships and first class flights are still a thing...
>>1261774Not OP, Just to show how big it is also I have more pic if you want me to post.
>>1261774I like how you ride on this thing at one point in Wolfenstein: The New Order. You don't see the exterior at any point, but it's over twice as wide as a regular train on the inside.
>>1261774try the Blue Train in South Africa
>>1262152Post more pics.>>1261875Can't have 5 metres wide train with standard gauge>>1261827>it would put huge strains on the axlesCan't you not just size the very rails themselves up?>>1262040Lisboa to Helsinki is 5 hours though.>>1262085Yeah, but you get in a cruise ship for the cruise ship experience in itself, not because you want to get from point A to B.
WHY CANT WE HAVE NICE THINGS ANYMORE ?
That it for now. I will post the blue prints later
>>1262427>>1262428>Hitler wanted to build a triumph arc 50x larger than the one in Paris >was explicitly not interested in functionality of the Breitspurbahn, but only in its size >the bigger a project is, the greater is Hitler's enthusiasm for it, t. Speer It was a useless size wank and Hitler only needed it to satiate his ego. Breitspurbahn is the genocidal fascist version of the pickup truck.
>>1262647I don't disagree that the Nazis actually didn't give a shit, but a cruiser-like train going across Eurasia would be some dank stuff. Let's be honest, the Transsiberian just doesn't cut it, especially not for a Paris-Brussels or a Berlin-Warsaw. But imagine a London-Beijing. Stops in Paris, Vienna, Istanbul, Baghdad, Tehran, Delhi, Calcutta, Hong Kong, Shanghai, Beijing. With a bit of imagination, maybe even Seoul and then a sick tunnel that goes all the way to Tokyo.
>>1262650Sounds llike a rather shitty idea, actually. Who would wanna spend several months at a time on a train cruise, even if the train is twice as large as a regular one?
>>1262674>several monthsIt would take barely over a week at a cruise speed of 150 km/h and you get to visit tons of cool cities, which is exactly why people take cruise boats.
In America I guess a 10 or 12 foot "landship" gauge if it was introduced in the 1930's instead of the interstate system, with passengers bringing their vehicles in special garage cars.
>all of these couple together with oversized Scharfenbergs
>>1262434>massive train station right next to the Brandenburg gateif uncle Adolf were alive today he'd def be on /n/
Jesus Christ, German autism knows no bounds.
>>1262779So like the Channel Tunnel? Only without making sense?
>>1262805I was picturing 3-deck cars running on 12 foot gauge track with the coaches being 24 feet wide and 36 feet high. The top two decks would be passenger's rooms (first, second or third class). The bottom deck would be a built-in garage that would allow 2 cars (less than 12 feet long) to be parked end to end perpendicular to the coach's length. The garage would have 20 or so of these end to end parking lanes stretching the length of the lowest deck.As for the steam locomotives, their sheer size must demand either a cab forward set up or a traditional setup but with the cab mounted in front of the smokebox with another cab behind the firebox. With the equipment weighing thousands, rather than hundreds of tons, hand shoveling coal would be impossible so the fuel feed system for the firebox must be entirely automated. Personally I preferred the main cab setup being more like a ship's bridge than a standard gauge cab setup, for efficiency and visibility reasons .So if a hypothetical 12 foot gauge was ever implemented in the U.S in a parallel universe, it would replace the mainline standard gauge routes but not the branch lines, which serve as "feeders". It would be a quite efficient alternative to the interstate highway system we have.
>>1262650>Istanbul, Baghdad, TehranA closer connection to those places is the last thing Europe needs.>Seoul and then a sick tunnel that goes all the way to TokyoI think that project was already discussed in the past and failed.Korea (both of them) and Japan unfortunately really don't like each other.I like the Transsib, but it's really not something you'd usually employ to get from Europe to East Asia.Is China's OBOR/BRI/Silkroad project completely focused on freight, or does it also have a passenger rail perspective?
>>1262733A fucking cinema car.>>1262736Now this is interesting. They had a concept for freight containers here.>>1263001>Seoul and then a sick tunnel that goes all the way to TokyoI think that project was already discussed in the past and failed.Korea (both of them) and Japan unfortunately really don't like each other.But in this timeline. Korea would be part of the japanese empire, so that wouldn´t be a reason.
>>1263001>A closer connection to those places is the last thing Europe needs.Istanbul is already connected and there's nothing wrong with the place, nothing wrong with Tehran either, and for Baghdad we're talking about a hypothetical future where the place is pacified anyway.Plus there's already direct plane links from Baghdad to Europe so it's not like a luxury train changes much.>I like the Transsib, but it's really not something you'd usually employ to get from Europe to East Asia.Of course, if you want to get from A to B where |AB| > 1 000 km you just take a plane unless you're an uber autist. The point is that the journey would become the end in itself.>>1263072>Korea (both of them) and Japan unfortunately really don't like each other.For a thousand years, neither did France and England, and look how things changed in a single century. I didn't contemplate particular geopolitic conditions anyway, they don't matter. We're talking about a project that could only be completed in a world without so much shitflinging between rivaling factions or countries.
>>1261774Imagine how many kikes and gypsies you could ferry to Birkenau with just one of those fuckers.
>>1263340Epic libtards get REKT by FACTS and LOGIC fellow gamer
>>1262727>steam-turbo-electricActualy a pretty good idea, considering germany has a lot of coal and verry little oil.>>1262890Sounds interesting, especialy when running like 150 mph in mainlines.
>>1263394In current year, coal is a terrible idea any way you put it, though.
Swimming pool car when?
>>1263416Indeed, however we are importing huge amounts of biofuel these days...
>>1263317>The point is that the journey would become the end in itself.Look, I'm the type of person to understand that, but there are simply not enough rich people with such an inclination in the world to make such a "luxury train" possible these days.You'd have to appeal to InterRailers in order to get a decent ridership.
>>1263599idk, interrailers are usually young people with no much money, cruisers are generally old boomers. I get that it would be way too expensive on its own, but as part of the new silk road, I don't think it would be too unrealistic. After all, you can a normal car/truck lane in between the tracks, or one 1435 mm line that gets used by merchandise trains as well.
>>1262890So something like this?
>>1261774more from that museum
>>1264177that does look comfy, even if a total waste of space
>>1264201when you rail car is 40 meter long and 6 meter wide space is not much of a concern
>>1264175Pretty much. Except the cars would be parked sideways relative to the cross section.
>>1264945well I based off the Eurotunnel shuttlehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=340&v=MXev0bFA-m8
>>1261877Banking causes yet another disruption to a better Germany.
>>1266347In German it's called Überhöhung, which is a word completely unrelated to banks.It's still a homonym, but in an entirely different field (literature analysis).
>>1266378This is why everyone else thinks we have no sense of humor, brudi.
>>1266378I don't understand, the joke works in english.
Warsaw to oswiecim in a rolling barn :)
>>1269176Based and redpilled.
>>1262335>lisboa to Helsinki is 5 hoursliterally what?
>>1270012Europe is small and he's talking about aircraft.