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>General Folder #1. Renaissance up to 20th century/modern classical. Also contains a folder of live recordings/recitals by some outstanding performers.
https://mega.co.nz/#F!mMYGhBgY!Ee_a6DJvLJRGej-9GBqi0A
>General Folder #2. Mostly 20th century/modern with other assorted bits and pieces
https://mega.co.nz/#F!Y8pXlJ7L!RzSeyGemu6QdvYzlfKs67w
>General Folder #3. Renaissance up to early/mid-20th century. Also contains a folder of Scarlatti sonate and another live recording/recital folder.
https://mega.co.nz/#F!kMpkFSzL!diCUavpSn9B-pr-MfKnKdA
>General Folder #4. Renaissance up to late 19th century
https://mega.co.nz/#F!ekBFiCLD!spgz8Ij5G0SRH2JjXpnjLg
>General Folder #5. Very eclectic mix
https://mega.co.nz/#F!O8pj1ZiL!mAfQOneAAMlDlrgkqvzfEg
>General Folder #6. Deutsche Grammophon stuff. Also there's some other stuff in here.
https://mega.nz/#F!DlRSjQaS!SzxR-CUyK4AYPknI1LYgdg
>Renaissance Folder #1. Mass settings
https://mega.co.nz/#F!ygImCRjS!1C9L77tCcZGQRF6UVXa-dA
>Renaissance Folder #2. Motets and madrigals (plus Leiden choirbooks)
https://mega.co.nz/#F!il5yBShJ!WPT0v8GwCAFdOaTYOLDA1g
>Debussy Folder.
https://mega.co.nz/#F!DdJWUBBK!BeGdGaiAqdLy9SBZjCHjCw
>Jewish Folder
https://mega.nz/#F!lk0lGSTQ!SAIvBwgyVF1EGEMUjranEw
>Opera Folder. Contains recorded video productions of about 10 well-known operas, with a bias towards late Romantic
https://mega.co.nz/#F!4EVlnJrB!PRjPFC0vB2UT1vrBHAlHlw
>Book Folder #1. Random assortment of books on music theory and composition, music history etc.
https://mega.nz/#F!HsAVXT5C!AoFKwCXr4PJnrNg5KzDJjw
>Book Folder #2. Comprehensive list of the most important harpsichord and piano pieces through history
https://mega.nz/#F!1xJgVSLA!i2eLakjehx5DY8qYUzS0Zg

Recordings by anon: >>86985777

Previous thread: >>87147737
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Bach

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qudj7JXsAjU
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the namefag glen ghoul is cringe dont reply to him
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Robert Schumann
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8f54gTj-Bh4
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man I forgot how good and sad the ending of the St. John passion was
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>>87172048
>goya
uhhhhhhhh based.
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>>87171869
Anyone who takes his name from an ebin amazon review is bound to be cringe
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>>87172196
He paints some cool shit but his lines and lighting really can't compete with Velasquez.
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>>87172222
read two lines and the cringe forced me to stop
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>>87172245
>Velasquez
He paints some cool lines and lighting but his power of evocation and otherwordliness really can't compete with Goya
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>>87172270
That's strictly not relevant to overall artistic ability. If that was the only qualification then Bosch would be the uncontested defender of the title. Similarly, Scriabin can't compete with Bach.
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>>87172182
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkzFUi0BIqI

fug
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>>87172245
what do you think of hopper? hes one of my favourite painters along with de chirico. i think rautavaara and hopper are complimentary. i dont know shit about art though besides eras.

>>87172213
grisey and murail are the big ones. not poly btw. duruflé had some decent stuff too
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>>87172304
>Scriabin can't compete with Bach
Imagine making such a retarded and anachronistic comparison
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schoenberg cant compete with machaut
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>>87172418
Yeah, I can't imagine it. That's why I said it.
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>>87172418
For all purposes other than academic, I agree with him
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>>87172445
>>87172470
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>>87172350
I'm sorry, I've not even heard of him. I've always wanted to get a better grasp on visual art but since there is no equivalent of /classical/ on 4chan for academic art, I know very little. I've discovered certain artists from other contexts. I discovered Velasquez in a Yale lecture series on Don Quixote. I also like cubism and Dali. But there are huge gaps in my overall familiarity with visual art.
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>>87172476
Congratulations. You won the argument with a brainlet pic. And to think, how many said it could not be done.
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>>87172521
>since there is no equivalent of /classical/ on 4chan for academic art, I know very little

>getting the bulk of your knowledge from 4chan
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>>87172568
I can't stand any other discussion environment. Its bad enough I scrounged around Talkclassical when activity died down in this general.
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>>87172590
what about books
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>>87172590
you can thank me for bring it back :)
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>>87172614
How do I know which are good?
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>>87172622
I don't think so. Unless you're Hans. In any case, fuck off and fuck you.
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>>87172639
that's always a problem, but just as much on here, in fact, even more so, because multiple retards agreeing with each other creates the illusion of unanimity
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Haydn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfKWJMmre8w
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who is Hans
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>>87172671
hans on deez nuts
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>>87172671
a state of mind
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>>87172655
Look, I never felt like I needed to read a book to participate in /classical/. Even if I'm just reading the opinion of some earlet/theorylet dipshit the learning process is very organic on 4chan and that's what I like. I just read a biography on Messiaen and one on Schoenberg because that's what the library happened to have. Actually the one on Schoenberg was shit because it said Erwartung had a chord with 11 different pitch classes and I was sorely disappointed to find no such thing actually was in there. It had a lot of inaccurate stuff like that and you could tell the author had paltry musical knowledge.
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>>87172304
>his lines and lighting really can't compete with Velasquez.
That's strictly not relevant to overall artistic ability.
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>>87172350
>grisey and murail
Oh, right, the "spectralists". Might as well throw in Schaeffer and Henry too, since we're at it.
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>>87172787
Its extremely relevant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22cv2LXBJMk
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Honegger

https://youtu.be/DLlg0r2wXuI
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>>87172843
sure it is
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>>87172856
ok youre not absolutely cringe anymore. all of les six is god tier https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTSF-CIQXqI
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>>87172843
>shows peak renaissance art while playing shitty degenerate romantic music.
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>>87172245
heh nice try
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Thoughts on this article?
https://www.allmusic.com/blog/post/classical-composers-and-their-maladies
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>>87172671
An autist that spouted shit in previous generals. He became so annoying that every one critized and mocked him.
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Symphonies for this feel?
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>>87172663
Based
The good Haydn begins here
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>>87173181
>100's of opus numbers
>gits gud before 200
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>>87173203
>Haydn wrote an op. 200
>Early works are bad
Literally what?
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>>87173142
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CSfAA5UiR-8
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rMdOG9SKPvk
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>>87173142
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjreS6grYpI
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>>87173258
Well I guess I fucked up because I knew he had 104 symphonies so naturally I thought his collective efforts far exceeded that number. Its rather hard to believe Mozart in his short life wrote more works than Haydn.
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>>87173142
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN7zZQEXkPE
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>>87173328
Haydn has a lot of good symphonies, Mozart has like 3 symphonies that don't suck.
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>>87173142
only the finest gusic can mark a tragedy of this proportion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lH3sGRSj4bs
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>>87173328
>104 symphonies
what the FUCK, Haydn?
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>>87173360
Yeah but Mozart was just getting warmed up. Lets remember if he'd lived into his 90s he would have created a free-flowing chromatic music evoking Schoenberg but really more an extension of his most stormy and chromatic passages over protracted periods with motives to break up the action. I have this on good authority (my own ass).
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>>87173360
>Mozart has like 3 symphonies that don't suck.
Everything from No. 29 onwards is good.
Everything from No. 36 onwards is great.
Everything from No. 39 onwards is very very very good.

What the fuck are you on about, nigger?
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>>87173374
>tragedy
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You guys like castration?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLjvfqnD0ws
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>>87173398
Symphonies were a lot shorter back then. Also when it's you job to write music all day everyday and you don't have to hold down a professorship or teaching positions, you can get a lot done.
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Why is it so emotional? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZR2JlDnT2l8
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>>87173423
I think you meant

>gusic

what a fucking reddit meme
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>>87173528
because you're a pleb.

>hears the mixolydian mode once
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>>87173560
Name something more emotional then.
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>>87173423
Shitskin detected
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>>87173577
https://youtu.be/-k7EXNZqIUg
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>>87173528
an englishman has never composed anything worthwhile
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>>87173543
>>87173617
t. ourists (in every sense of the word you can come up with)
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>>87173667
t. shitskin
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>>87173652
The Renaissance tho.

Also Ferneyhough
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>>87173695
>The Renaissance tho.

None are worthy of note.
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>>87173723
shit taste
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>>87173731
Name ONE
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>>87173695
>Ferneyhough
Yikes
New complexity was a scam
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>>87173577
I don't know, a lot of things. Beethoven's late quartets. Jesus, how can you even ask such a thing? Prime tourist speak.
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>>87173742
New Complexity is pop music
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Let's be real though

Bach's work isn't actually very good to listen to
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>>87173742
also shit taste

>>87173737
Fayrfax, Tallis, Taverner, Dunstaple, Gibbons, Byrd, Holborne, Tomkins, Morley.
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>>87173744
گندی جلد
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>>87173792
cringe. Listened to Bach for like 5 hours yesterday, enjoyed every moment.
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>>87173822
get a job lol
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>>87173777
Yeah, specially them 7th chords. Thank god for Kpop.
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>>87173818
I dont' speak squiggly, tourist
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>>87173837
nice larp mohammed
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>>87173833
Jokes on you, I was at work when I was listening to Bach.
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>>87173792
Nah
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lm9pTjmkEKE
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>>87173818
Yes yes, death to the infidel and so forth.
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>>87172917
I must say that i just listened to Honegger for the first time today
Redpill me on Les Six
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>>87173888
They're pretty cool, essential even, but quite the cunts and their smarminess did take away from their creativity
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>>87173410
This makes me so angry, mozart is by far my favourite composer yet when you think that he only lived to 35, nobody would have remembered Beethoven had he died at that age. Mozart was getting better and better with and in his last few years he had entered a whole new whelm of power, had he lived to 50 or 60 its hard to imagine what he would have done, there wouldnt be any doubt who the greatest was
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>>87173856
>larp
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>>87173920
>>>/youtube.com
also you're replying to a joke post, retardoman
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>>87173888
They are so diverse in their approaches to music its not even useful to think of them as part of some movement. Honneger makes harsh expressionist mechanistic, really, teutonic music. Taillefere is really just impressionism. Milhaud is polystylistic music bordering on postmodern but not degenerate enough to be painted with that broad brush. Poulenc is really really moe music.
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>>87174019
>really really moe music.
excuse me, what?
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>>87173920
>would have remembered Beethoven had he died at that age.
Moonlight sonata, pathetique sonata, Symphony 3(the symphony that changed the symphony genre)
All before 35
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>>87174082
Poulenc a cute. CUTE!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7Z_3EA9pyY

Actually I can't even think who else is in Les Six. I probably wouldn't even know Taillefere if she were a he.
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hey /classical/ are there any performances that were recorded at the notre dame cathedral?
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>>87174114
>not knowing Georges Auric.
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>>87174289
I think The Fireman performed there recently
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Who's the biggest FRAUD in academic music?
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>>87174366
Unironically Bach. Stealing the works of the greatest Petzold, such as his minuet in G major
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>>87174417
Hill isn't an academic, so his fraudulence is irrelevant (as is his irrelevance).
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>>87174366
these fuckers and their children
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>>87174366
Cage (not even a musician)
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>>87174600
Cage is irredeemable shit but that picture is cringey as fuck, and factually wrong
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>>87174628
it’s funny man chill, what is inaccurate about it?
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>>87174628
>>87174600
He's right. Music doesn't actually need rhythm to be great. That would invalidate the existence of every piece composed in first species counterpoint.
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>>87174628
>tfw a stupid libetal tries to debate me
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>>87174655
Music has more than three elements and at any given time it can do without one or more of them. That and that last sense is absolutely meaningless.

That said, I repeat, Cage is shit and that piece is literally not music, and that's not up for debate.
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>>87174747
see

>>87174696
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>>87174600
>>87174747
>>>/pol/
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>>87173410
I want to read Shoenberg's books but I dont want to end up as indoctrinated and braindead as this guy
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>>87175036
I've already DELETED that comment and I've better clarified the idea there. And let's not overlook the fact that I thought Liszt lived into his 90s (probably because of the associations with Faust).
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>>87175093
unironically kill yourself today
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>>87175125
Does everything have to come to the absolute extreme of recommending suicide?
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>>87175175
you're far from everything, boy
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>>87175250
What does that even mean? Go get tested for autism.
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>>87175175
>Does everything have to come to the absolute extreme of recommending suicide?
>>87175250
>you're far from everything
Means: No, not everything, just you, who are not nearly everything.
Get tested for pulse and make sure to get that treated ASAP
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>>87173792
wrong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPEGiRjttHc
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>>87175290
No, I mean how the hell can the idea of Mozart writing "atonal" passages in his music in 1840 make you so mad that you try to impel someone to commit suicide for coming up with it. Its just ridiculous.
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>>87175332
I don't see how Mozart comes into this. I just really want you to not be alive.
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>>87175348
You hate me but I'm living in your head rent free.
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>>87175374
>You hate me
I don't see what drove you to this conclusion.
>I'm living in your head rent free.
I'm sure I would have been affected by this back when I was 8
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>>87175348
>/classical/ memes me into existence by constantly posting my youtube comments
>tiny, almost insignificant cult of personality forms
>/classical/ starts calling for my death

You guys sure aren't bright.
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>>87175406
You're delusional and insignificant
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>>87175423
How am I delusional? This is exactly what happened.
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>>87175453
a) there is no cult
b) it's only one guy who wishes you'd die (about to become two, though)
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>>87175423
also

>insignificant
>"almost insignificant"

Its almost like I'm agreeing with you in advance.
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>>87175501
officially two people want you to die now
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>>87175523
I don't fucking care. I still have a point in saying that /classical/ created a tripfag they didn't even want. Actually two if you count Hans.
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>>87175562
>I don't fucking care.
sure you don't
>I still have a point in saying tha-
no one cares
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>>87175580
I will care when the Ayatollah calls for my death, not a couple shitposters. And while its all well and good that you don't care about your fuck-ups, you still fucked up. That's just an objective reality.
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>>87175633
>I will care when th-
no one cares
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>>87175668
This captcha-fuel says otherwise.
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Scarllatti

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doezrM_mBHo
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Actually the guy who started collecting my youtube comments said he was trying to dox me, for, get this Apu posting. I mean fuck, what kind of diet and sleep-schedule are you on that you have the temperament of an autistic toddler cat? Do a fucking personal inventory.
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>>87175753
who are you
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>>87175753
Stop it.
I'm personally not bothered by your existence, but it's simpler for everyone when you just don't reveal yourself at all. Post normally and no-one will tell you to die.
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>>87175775
It doesn't matter who I am. What matters is my plan (to stop being a meme against my will).
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>>87175790
>(to stop being a meme against my will).
quitting avatarfagging is step 1 through 5
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>>87175789
I got in this position from posting normally. I just happened to be saying the same things in two different forums and one required registration.
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>>87175812
Apu, an avatar? Are you retarded? Like over 50% of the site posts Apu. Look, posting style is just a reality. No matter what somebody does, they are going to have consistencies in their posting that can be identified with aggressive autism (the anti-Apu guy for instance). The important thing is to just ignore it.
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>>87172304
>Scriabin can't compete with Bach
What is the point of such retarded anachronistic statements?
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>>87172671
Read the Pfitzner-Berg essays about Schumann and aesthetics.
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>>87175872
Just stop avatarfagging. Just stop.
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>>87175880
You already made that comment. But the point is for all of Scriabin's Zaniness the mathematical perfection of Bach must win out over the mere imagination of Scriabin.
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>>87175406
You're an incredible narcissist who has almost ruined this general. Fuck off.
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>>87175929
What avatars are off limits. I guess Apu, that cat, probably anything that's been put through deepart.io. Smug anime girls. Carl from Aqua Teen. Anything else you'd care to add to my blacklist? How about I just don't mention any of the composers I frequently talk about either.
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>>87175981
>What avatars are off limits
Avatars
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>>87175960
Thanks for noting that I am incredible. No but for real I don't want any of this fucking attention and you can blame that sperg who got so butthurt about frogposting that he actually tried to dox me. Were it not for his efforts I'd be anonymous like the rest of you cunts.
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>>87175934
why
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>>87175999
Well I don't use any avatars, so this works out nicely.
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>>87176026
>I don't want any of this fucking attention
stop posting then, right now, cool off for the rest of the day, and never make (or heed) any mention of "you" again
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>>87176026
>No but for real I don't want any of this fucking attention
Then don't fucking post with an avatar.
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>>87176063
I'm not the one routinely posting these screenshots and calling them "cringe" or "based" for that matter. I have the former screenshot. I maybe posted it once or twice and never in the actual general because I know personalities are cancer in the general. I mean for fuck's sakes, you guys had a spiteful strawpoll about how I'll never be able to compose serious music. You're as obsessed with me (yes, the personality) as leftists are with Trump.
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>>87176078
here are the avatars

>>87174417
>>87175036

Yes, stop posting them.
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>>87176167
stop posting, now
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>>87176213
No, fuck you. Actually maybe I am a narcissist because I'm pretty sure the general would die without me (no not the personality, the guy with the empty schedule, level of knowledge and audacious samefaggotry to keep the general going at all hours).
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>>87176251
no one cares, stop posting
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRQaGHVfKck
Mozart
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>>87176300
no one cares about you and you stop posting. Actually a fuck ton of people care about me because they keep posting about (me). You're probably posting petzold while I'm actually commenting on the fucking music and filtering out all the youtube rec--core shit to bring you the diamonds in the rough. Here's a list of composers I brought to /classical/.

>Panufnik
>Langaard
>Dallapiccola
>Fritz Heinrich Klein
>probably Zelenka (10 years ago)
>probably Rautavaara (also 10 years ago)

These composers weren't talked about before I started promoting them. I've been with the general for a decade. Who the fuck are you?
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>>87176251
>I'm pretty sure the general would die without me
lol
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>>87176431
stop posting today and always
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>>87176486
you stop posting, fucker. Worst case scenario I'll just pose as a Chinese boomer with a proclivity for renaissance music.
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>>87176431
>Here's a list of composers I brought to /classical/.

>Shit
>Shit
>Shit
>Shit
>Shit (10 years ago)
>Shit (also 10 years ago)

>I'm pretty sure the general would die without me
of laughter, surely
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>>87176511
>dude pump up that Rachmaninoff!
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>>87176167
>>87176431
You seriously need to go.
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>>87176511
>calling Zelenka "shit"

I'm sorry, do you even like music?
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>>87176544
no, you need to go. Anyone who says the word "you" in response to ANY of my posts from this point on needs to go. Its just that si
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>>87176556
I think we have drama tourists here now. There's people in the thread that are just here to express fake outrage about internet drama they don't even care about. Its fucking pathetic.
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>>87176556
>>87176573
shhh just stop posting
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petzold
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>>87176609
>to express fake outrage about internet drama
you mean like
>>87175753
>>87175872
>>87175981
>>87176026
>>87176167
>>87176251
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Sorry Hill i'm the guy who posted your comments first, proof the trinity comment is from Mozart adagio and fugue and the mozart atonal comment is from Shoenberg SQ4
I didn't know people would bully you this much i just posted it first for fun because i knew that guy would browse /classical/
Honestly is your fault for spamming your Shoenberg influenced opinions

also i'm the frogposter with shit english I'm putting a name in my posts now because i lost my frog folder kek
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>>87176645
no, that's very real outrage. You fucking come into my home, force me out of my anonymity, presume to dictate terms to me and tell me to GTFO? Yeah, I'm not pissed off at all about this.
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Okay here's the poll.

https://www.strawpoll.me/17824457
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>>87176702
>no, that's v--
sh, get out
>>87176682
you too
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>>87176682
>the guy who forced me into proxy tripfaggotry is Glen Ghoul and the smug-frog poster.

Wow big surprised.
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>>87176682
>>87176702
If you ain't quitting the faggotry at least have teh decency to get a tripcode
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>>87176724
people who start polls are the ones who need to leave t b h
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Brahms

https://youtu.be/U2RdH4jrelA

I have the lasalle quartet version but i'm posting this amadeus quartet version
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>>87176866
Even the piano concerto and violin concerto polls?
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How do you guys listen to opera? Do you keep the libretto in front of you and follow along? Or do you just listen and watch the visuals, hearing the vocal lines like instruments? Are there any of you that can somehow actually understand what's being said?
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>>87176955
>listen and watch the visuals, hearing the vocal lines like instruments
that is, literally, the only way to enjoy opera. If you want a story read a fucking book
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>>87176955
i just listen to the music
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>>87176987
>>87176993
No wonder you guys hate Wagner so much around here.
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>>87176955
I really dont care about the libretto its usually cringy shit-tier poetry
I just listen to the music
My fav opera is Les Troyens
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>>87177006
I love Wagner and just posted this>>87176987 Are you about to tell me that his librettos are better than his music?
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>>87176955
watch the video of performance while reading the libretto and the score
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>>87177020
No, but it's, by Wagner's own ideology, quite important to the music. "Total Work of Art" and what not
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>>87177056
>Wagner's own ideology
Why should I give a shit about that?
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>>87176987
>>87176993
Don't you get distracted by that nagging feeling like you need to find out what's actually being sung? Like I'm watching The Love for Three Oranges right now, it's obviously great, but the visuals are so WTF that I can't enjoy it properly, I feel like I HAVE to find the libretto, and I can't even find it online. It's really preventing me from getting into opera in general.
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>>87177098
sometimes i read the libretto sometimes i dont
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>>87177098
>Don't you get distracted by that nagging feeling like you need to find out what's actually being sung?
For starters, no. But even if it did, I've read most of the works Wagner used as a source for the librettos of his major operas anyway (and am thus aware of how butchered some are, like the Ring cycle), and those I haven't read don't really pique my curiosity (like Die Meistersinger). As I said, if you want a story, go read a book. Music is what I look for in composers, not stories.
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>>87176987
>>87176993
>>87177016
If you don't read the librettos, why not just listen to non-opera works instead? It's not like there aren't plenty of them. You are definitely getting a lesser experience if you ignore part of the work, the fact that the composers even bothered turning them into operas in the first place can attest to this.
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>>87177271
>why not just listen to non-opera works instead?
Because I fucking like operas maybe??
>You are definitely getting a lesser experience
We are all at one moment or another getting a lesser experience. If we were to ditch the experience altogether because it's "lesser" then we'd all be listening to pop music. An opera isn't any less good in my ears just because I'm not aware of the plot, much in the same way it's not any less good just because they're singing in a language I don't understand. Stop being so dense.
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>>87177310
>Because I like fucking operas maybe??
If you completely ignore the librettos and plot, then you're not getting anything more than you would from a tone poem or song cycle. Stop being so mad.
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>>87177343
>Stop being so mad.
Maybe if you stop being so retarded, reread my posts and consider how fucking stupid your replies are. But that won't happen, so the general tone of my posts will continue, shit-for-brains.
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>>87177366
lmao
No wonder you can't take the librettos or plots. Any semblance of human interaction would just be too much for you to bear.
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>>87177411
>I am going to ignore your previous posts, and arrive to a completely unrelated conclusion based on how hurt my feelings are
u a bitch
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>>87177481
Wow. There isn't even any need for me to post the meme trigger buzzword. You're quite LITERALLY seething.
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>>87176932
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BI9ZqGnvXlA
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>>87177516
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>>87177516
u a bitch
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>>87172568
Where the fuck do you get your knowledge from?
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>>87178286
there is barely any information in these threads since hans stopped posting
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>>87178286
Specialized media maybe? Teachers? Professional musicians? They're not fairytale creatures, you know
>>87178354
shut up Hans
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>>87178368
i'm not implying he was right, just he would occasionally catch a fellow autist and make them write out paragraphs, now it's back to shitposting
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>the pleb low brass
>the patrician french horn
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>the pleb french horn
>the patrician Vienna horn
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You know guys, the thing I don't understand about Wagner's supposed legacy? How its not completely overshadowed by Berlioz and his son-in-law, Liszt. They were pushing the boundaries of tonal resolution decades before Tristan was published.
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>>87179125
meme magic predates the Internet, my son
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>>87179154
I think you may be confusing Wagner with Grieg.
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>>87179177
No, Grieg is actually good
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>>87170138
actually sounds kinda interesting, i'll give it a try

>>87170322
so?

>>87171440
pleb

>>87171488
kaprálová>>>>>>>f*nny mendeljew>>>>>>clara shoeman

>>87179062
>the virgin vienna horn
>the CHAD Wagner Tuba
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>>87179210
>CHAD
it was a meme tuba, a bad meme and like all bad memes it died out after the initial rush
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>>87179197
Yes because he had special frog powers.
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>>87179228
and pretty much only used by other memers like Strauss, Stravinsky and Varèse
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>>87179228
Come on, there's a reason the only brass getting solo parts in concertos are French Horns throughout most of the common practice period. It makes the nicest sound. The Wagner Tuba is just a low register french horn.
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>>87179276
I uh, wasn't defending the Wagner tuba in case you didn't notice
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>>87179310
In case you didn't notice, I am provoking an argument with you for that very reason, in case you didn't notice.
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>https://youtu.be/qoWdtGUe5fc?t=416

reminder that g*rmans stole their hymn from this piece
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>>87179378
>oh I know, I'm just being retarded on purpose
Ah, I see
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>>87179388
>German's stole their own music

Get this hothead out of here!
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>>87179273
don't forget based incel
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>>87179418
>oh I see, I'm the retarded one for posting greentext brainlet wojaks when I could be posting the real deal.

Okay, we've reached a point of mutual understanding.
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>>87179465
I think he was more of a vocel. Or is it volcel?
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>>87179430
>pangermanism
based
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>>87179496
Nobody cares about culturally distinguishing Austria from Germany except Austrians and pedantic little shits from /his/.
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>>87178368
Those cost money and are real people, I refuse to interact with teachers ever again
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>>87179177
>talks about Kekism
>rolls 77
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I can't stop listening to Mozart's 38th send help
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>>87179700
Nah, you're good mate. Just make sure you're listening to different interpretations.
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>>87179650
Specialized media is free if you're not a moron
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>>87179750
I do study online and test myself frequently along with the one piano teacher I've forced myself to endure
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Robert Schumann
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Afxr6pWwejk
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>>87179496
Based i'm saving these Frogs since i've lost my Frog folder
Did someone save that Frog thats looking himself into the mirror? it was one of my favs
Fuck it i'm gonna go back to all the previous threads to have back all my Frogs
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>>87179775
boy wait until you find out about this Google Images thing
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>>87179802
It would be impossible to find the frog looking himself into mirror and all the other weird variations i use to have
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>>87179775
>collecting Pepes instead of Apus

Its not 2012 anymore fellas.
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>>87179766
Yeah and people say Sonatas aren't weird.
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>>87179871
silence child
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>>87179871
Tuxedo pepe is recent it was born in /tv/ when Black Panther came out i think
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>>87179900
tuxedo apu > tuxedo pepe
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>>87179890
>people say Sonatas aren't weird
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>>87179918
I said last thread why are everyone's sonatas weird except Mozart's.
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>>87179900
>>87179916
we all hate you
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>>87179961
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>>87179958
And you were also wrong there. Would you like to be wrong a third time? Free of charge!
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>>87179997
okay, what is weird about Mozart's sonatas? Generally I find them to be the most conventional things in his repertoire.
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>>87180040
>what is weird about Mozart's sonatas?
>implying they are
pleasure doing business withcha
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>>87179961
Based
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>>87180040
You dense motherfucker
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>>87180057
Irony/post-irony: Pepe
New Sincerity: Apu

Its just a natural evolution guys. The time has come to admit we're just retarded autistic finnish frogs at the end of the day.
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>>87180050
>>87180076
Look my only point is that for whatever reason even his orchestral works are more audacious than his sonatas. Of course some of the other piano miscellany is wacky but them sonatas? Just straight-backed Big-C Classical. Why?
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>>87180102
New Sincerity came before Post-irony
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>>87180120
And my point is that some sonatas are weird, some are not, there is no pattern, and Mozart's weirdness is fairly well distributed amongst his oeuvre. So I don't know what to tell you about that. Besides you seem to think audacious is weird? THAT is weird.
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Look who's back in Town

Bach played by an emotionless blonde girl to celebrate
https://youtu.be/R0nZjkh-U7I
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>>87180040
Can someone please answer this guy's question for real I've been following for a while now
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>>87180152
yes, audacious is weird. Its a huge risk to play unconventional music to the stuffy aristocrats paying your way, let alone a whole theatre full of them expressly there to hear the music, as in an orchestral work. Many composers took advantage of their sonatas as an opportunity to really let lose. I would say Beethoven's and Schubert's sonatas are among their most idiosyncratic works. It makes sense that solo piano works would be more "audacious".
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>>87180282
it's been answered
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>>87180282
they're basically just saying that I'm wrong in thinking sonatas are typically among the weirdest works of composers.
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>>87180312
You have just explained what audacious means, but not why it's weird. It's the single most natural direction all arts can take. Audacity is inevitable.
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>>87180288
Based and checked
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>>87180338
>Audacity is inevitable.
necessary even
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>>87180338
I think you're being a semantic pedantic.
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>>87180370
ok copout
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>>87180338
Then it's not audacious
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>>87180379
Yes it is, at the time. Then we become accustomed, and it becomes commonplace. That's the way things go, you'll notice.

No one, today, would literally fucking RIOT if they were exposed for the first time to the Rite Of Spring, but that was what happened in 1913. It was audacious then, not now.
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>>87180374
No its not a copout. You're insisting that the definition of weird is like I guess "action contrary to a given nature" and mine is "presentation that contravenes convention". I'm talking about an artistic category and you're being a dick and making it about human behavior and shit.
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>>87180423
ok goalpost-mover
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>>87180422
You underestimate just how much the French like to destroy shit in feigned indignation. Especially where regards eastern-european and slavic culture.
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>>87180492
It is but one example, my dude
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>>87180475
No no no no, (YOU) moved the goalposts.
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>>87180422
You're chancing the subject. He's saying Mozart's sonatas were not audacious for their time either. Let alone ours.
>>87180374
You're totally bringing semantics into this unnecessarily
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>>87180511
>n-no, u ;_;
how much lower can you go
>>87180531
Yes, I changed the subject. I made that very clear once the previous subject was settled (they're not noticeably less weird than any of his other main works)
>You're totally bringing semantics into this
Tends to happen when you communicate with non-arbitrary written language
>unnecessarily
There is no such occasion
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>>87180558
>>bringing semantics into this unnecessarily
>There is no such occasion
Jesus you're a faggot. Are you pic related
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>>87180603
>lol faget
ok
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Hey all. I’m looking for the best choir recordings/pieces I can find. I scoured through the folders and couldn’t find much, though maybe I just didn’t look in the right place. Any suggestions?
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>>87180689
I'd tell you BUT you posted an anime looking image so though luck pal
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>>87180689
solo choir?
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>>87180715
>>87180716
Dude we both posted at the exact same time that's gnarly
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>>87180730
radical
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>>87180716
Sure. I’m a classical trombonist so I don’t know much about the choral literature.
>>87180715
Apologies. I’ll make it up to you with pic related. Any input you have will be greatly appreciated.
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what's the best recording of bruckner 8? also there's a fuckton of versions
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>Fall in love with girl from physics lab
>She asks me to take summer courses with her
>Hit her up on text and talk about what to take in the summer
>She stops replying after a few days
>I'm worried
>See her today with a faggy mexican
>She texts me that she isn't taking any summer classes anymore

Symphonies for this feel?
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>>87180891
anything by Bruckner
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>>87180891
obligatory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-pVz2LTakM
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>>87180885
Unironically Celibdache with Munchen Phil
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>>87180885
Celibidache(i'm not memeing)

>>87180891
>Got Cucked by Spic
Classic
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>>87180891
How do you fall in love with a girl for real
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>>87180885
>>87180939
Get this
Transcendental
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>>87180952
>>87180939
Bros she's the perfect classical waifu. She's played the violin for 7 years.
There was a Piano Trio performing on campus two weeks ago. I had no one to go with and I randomly asked her out to it. She said yes. I literally fell in love with her listening to Beethoven's Archduke Trio in B-flat. She even said she'd play Sibelius' Violin Concerto for me some day.
Why did she do this to me?
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>>87180999
Life is a hostile thing that effectively hates you and you should've already learned that by now you fucking Sisyphus
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>>87180904
This really helps for some reason. Never really liked Schoenberg before this.
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>>87181024
It's not very representative of Schönberg overall, though, but you're bound to like his Pelleas Und Melisande
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>>87180999
i wish i met a girl like this (without the getting part).
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What are y'all doing falling in love anyway? What are you 17? It's bad for you, it's like smoking, all you get is a nice feeling that fades away quickly and an empty pocket. Spend that money on hookers and you'll be a happy man.
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>>87181147
What if I'm not a degenerate hedonist?
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>>87181168
>falling in love
>not degenerate and hedonist
oh, or, do you believe in soulmates and santa and stuff like that?
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>>87181147
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>>87180999
Checked, just dont be so pathetic
Did you reveal your power level in front of her? or acted like a Beta?

From experience you probably showed too much affection for her and she didn't like that, i dunno

>>87181147
Based boomer
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>>87181233
WHY THE FUCK ARE WOMEN LIKE THIS? WHY ARE THEY TURNED OFF BY "TOO MUCH AFFECTION"?

Are we supposed to read their minds now?
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>>87181272
>WHY ARE THEY TURNED OFF BY "TOO MUCH AFFECTION"?

Makes you look submissive i think, they are the ones supposed to show "too much affection"
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Medtner

https://youtu.be/w509W0P1QHw

Going to sleep now bye
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Robert Schumann
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TF280ui9m4s
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>>87181272
>WHY ARE THEY TURNED OFF BY "TOO MUCH AFFECTION"?

Cause they don't want another girlfriend, they want a boyfriend. Sorry m8, the Chads were right. Be confident, have firm opinions that you're not afraid to share and don't be a fag.
You're driving a motorcycle with a sidecar, not a gay tandem bike.
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Hi everybody
Shostakovich
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfx9gjOWR_w
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>>87175818
>4chan
>forum
You really need to go bach
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>>87175910
Where i can read them?
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>>87182217
His string quartet No.8 is my favorite
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