Depressed edition>General Folder #1. Renaissance up to 20th century/modern classical. Also contains a folder of live recordings/recitals by some outstanding performers.https://mega.co.nz/#F!mMYGhBgY!Ee_a6DJvLJRGej-9GBqi0A>General Folder #2. Mostly 20th century/modern with other assorted bits and pieceshttps://mega.co.nz/#F!Y8pXlJ7L!RzSeyGemu6QdvYzlfKs67w>General Folder #3. Renaissance up to early/mid-20th century. Also contains a folder of Scarlatti sonate and another live recording/recital folder.https://mega.co.nz/#F!kMpkFSzL!diCUavpSn9B-pr-MfKnKdA>General Folder #4. Renaissance up to late 19th centuryhttps://mega.co.nz/#F!ekBFiCLD!spgz8Ij5G0SRH2JjXpnjLg>General Folder #5. Very eclectic mixhttps://mega.co.nz/#F!O8pj1ZiL!mAfQOneAAMlDlrgkqvzfEg>General Folder #6. Deutsche Grammophon stuff. Also there's some other stuff in here.https://mega.nz/#F!DlRSjQaS!SzxR-CUyK4AYPknI1LYgdg>Renaissance Folder #1. Mass settingshttps://mega.co.nz/#F!ygImCRjS!1C9L77tCcZGQRF6UVXa-dA>Renaissance Folder #2. Motets and madrigals (plus Leiden choirbooks)https://mega.co.nz/#F!il5yBShJ!WPT0v8GwCAFdOaTYOLDA1g>Debussy Folder.https://mega.co.nz/#F!DdJWUBBK!BeGdGaiAqdLy9SBZjCHjCw>Jewish Folderhttps://mega.nz/#F!lk0lGSTQ!SAIvBwgyVF1EGEMUjranEw>Opera Folder. Contains recorded video productions of about 10 well-known operas, with a bias towards late Romantichttps://mega.co.nz/#F!4EVlnJrB!PRjPFC0vB2UT1vrBHAlHlw>Book Folder #1. Random assortment of books on music theory and composition, music history etc. https://mega.nz/#F!HsAVXT5C!AoFKwCXr4PJnrNg5KzDJjw>Book Folder #2. Comprehensive list of the most important harpsichord and piano pieces through historyhttps://mega.nz/#F!1xJgVSLA!i2eLakjehx5DY8qYUzS0ZgRecordings by anon: >>86985777Previous thread: >>87147737
the namefag glen ghoul is cringe dont reply to him
man I forgot how good and sad the ending of the St. John passion was
>>87171869Anyone who takes his name from an ebin amazon review is bound to be cringe
>>87172196He paints some cool shit but his lines and lighting really can't compete with Velasquez.
>>87172222read two lines and the cringe forced me to stop
>>87172245>VelasquezHe paints some cool lines and lighting but his power of evocation and otherwordliness really can't compete with Goya
>>87172270That's strictly not relevant to overall artistic ability. If that was the only qualification then Bosch would be the uncontested defender of the title. Similarly, Scriabin can't compete with Bach.
>>87172245what do you think of hopper? hes one of my favourite painters along with de chirico. i think rautavaara and hopper are complimentary. i dont know shit about art though besides eras. >>87172213grisey and murail are the big ones. not poly btw. duruflé had some decent stuff too
>>87172304>Scriabin can't compete with BachImagine making such a retarded and anachronistic comparison
schoenberg cant compete with machaut
>>87172418Yeah, I can't imagine it. That's why I said it.
>>87172418For all purposes other than academic, I agree with him
>>87172350I'm sorry, I've not even heard of him. I've always wanted to get a better grasp on visual art but since there is no equivalent of /classical/ on 4chan for academic art, I know very little. I've discovered certain artists from other contexts. I discovered Velasquez in a Yale lecture series on Don Quixote. I also like cubism and Dali. But there are huge gaps in my overall familiarity with visual art.
>>87172476Congratulations. You won the argument with a brainlet pic. And to think, how many said it could not be done.
>>87172521>since there is no equivalent of /classical/ on 4chan for academic art, I know very little>getting the bulk of your knowledge from 4chan
>>87172568I can't stand any other discussion environment. Its bad enough I scrounged around Talkclassical when activity died down in this general.
>>87172590what about books
>>87172590you can thank me for bring it back :)
>>87172614How do I know which are good?
>>87172622I don't think so. Unless you're Hans. In any case, fuck off and fuck you.
>>87172639that's always a problem, but just as much on here, in fact, even more so, because multiple retards agreeing with each other creates the illusion of unanimity
who is Hans
>>87172671hans on deez nuts
>>87172671a state of mind
>>87172655Look, I never felt like I needed to read a book to participate in /classical/. Even if I'm just reading the opinion of some earlet/theorylet dipshit the learning process is very organic on 4chan and that's what I like. I just read a biography on Messiaen and one on Schoenberg because that's what the library happened to have. Actually the one on Schoenberg was shit because it said Erwartung had a chord with 11 different pitch classes and I was sorely disappointed to find no such thing actually was in there. It had a lot of inaccurate stuff like that and you could tell the author had paltry musical knowledge.
>>87172304>his lines and lighting really can't compete with Velasquez.That's strictly not relevant to overall artistic ability.
>>87172350>grisey and murailOh, right, the "spectralists". Might as well throw in Schaeffer and Henry too, since we're at it.
>>87172787Its extremely relevant. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22cv2LXBJMk
>>87172843sure it is
>>87172856ok youre not absolutely cringe anymore. all of les six is god tier https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTSF-CIQXqI
>>87172843>shows peak renaissance art while playing shitty degenerate romantic music.
>>87172245heh nice try
Thoughts on this article?https://www.allmusic.com/blog/post/classical-composers-and-their-maladies
>>87172671An autist that spouted shit in previous generals. He became so annoying that every one critized and mocked him.
Symphonies for this feel?
>>87172663BasedThe good Haydn begins here
>>87173181>100's of opus numbers>gits gud before 200
>>87173203>Haydn wrote an op. 200>Early works are badLiterally what?
>>87173258Well I guess I fucked up because I knew he had 104 symphonies so naturally I thought his collective efforts far exceeded that number. Its rather hard to believe Mozart in his short life wrote more works than Haydn.
>>87173328Haydn has a lot of good symphonies, Mozart has like 3 symphonies that don't suck.
>>87173142only the finest gusic can mark a tragedy of this proportion https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lH3sGRSj4bs
>>87173328>104 symphonieswhat the FUCK, Haydn?
>>87173360Yeah but Mozart was just getting warmed up. Lets remember if he'd lived into his 90s he would have created a free-flowing chromatic music evoking Schoenberg but really more an extension of his most stormy and chromatic passages over protracted periods with motives to break up the action. I have this on good authority (my own ass).
>>87173360>Mozart has like 3 symphonies that don't suck.Everything from No. 29 onwards is good.Everything from No. 36 onwards is great.Everything from No. 39 onwards is very very very good.What the fuck are you on about, nigger?
You guys like castration?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLjvfqnD0ws
>>87173398Symphonies were a lot shorter back then. Also when it's you job to write music all day everyday and you don't have to hold down a professorship or teaching positions, you can get a lot done.
Why is it so emotional? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZR2JlDnT2l8
>>87173423I think you meant>gusic what a fucking reddit meme
>>87173528because you're a pleb. >hears the mixolydian mode once
>>87173560Name something more emotional then.
>>87173528an englishman has never composed anything worthwhile
>>87173543>>87173617t. ourists (in every sense of the word you can come up with)
>>87173652The Renaissance tho.Also Ferneyhough
>>87173695>The Renaissance tho.None are worthy of note.
>>87173695>FerneyhoughYikesNew complexity was a scam
>>87173577I don't know, a lot of things. Beethoven's late quartets. Jesus, how can you even ask such a thing? Prime tourist speak.
>>87173742New Complexity is pop music
Let's be real thoughBach's work isn't actually very good to listen to
>>87173742also shit taste>>87173737Fayrfax, Tallis, Taverner, Dunstaple, Gibbons, Byrd, Holborne, Tomkins, Morley.
>>87173792cringe. Listened to Bach for like 5 hours yesterday, enjoyed every moment.
>>87173822get a job lol
>>87173777Yeah, specially them 7th chords. Thank god for Kpop.
>>87173818I dont' speak squiggly, tourist
>>87173837nice larp mohammed
>>87173833Jokes on you, I was at work when I was listening to Bach.
>>87173818Yes yes, death to the infidel and so forth.
>>87172917I must say that i just listened to Honegger for the first time todayRedpill me on Les Six
>>87173888They're pretty cool, essential even, but quite the cunts and their smarminess did take away from their creativity
>>87173410This makes me so angry, mozart is by far my favourite composer yet when you think that he only lived to 35, nobody would have remembered Beethoven had he died at that age. Mozart was getting better and better with and in his last few years he had entered a whole new whelm of power, had he lived to 50 or 60 its hard to imagine what he would have done, there wouldnt be any doubt who the greatest was
>>87173920>>>/youtube.comalso you're replying to a joke post, retardoman
>>87173888They are so diverse in their approaches to music its not even useful to think of them as part of some movement. Honneger makes harsh expressionist mechanistic, really, teutonic music. Taillefere is really just impressionism. Milhaud is polystylistic music bordering on postmodern but not degenerate enough to be painted with that broad brush. Poulenc is really really moe music.
>>87174019>really really moe music.excuse me, what?
>>87173920>would have remembered Beethoven had he died at that age. Moonlight sonata, pathetique sonata, Symphony 3(the symphony that changed the symphony genre)All before 35
>>87174082Poulenc a cute. CUTE! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7Z_3EA9pyYActually I can't even think who else is in Les Six. I probably wouldn't even know Taillefere if she were a he.
hey /classical/ are there any performances that were recorded at the notre dame cathedral?
>>87174114>not knowing Georges Auric.
>>87174289I think The Fireman performed there recently
Who's the biggest FRAUD in academic music?
>>87174366Unironically Bach. Stealing the works of the greatest Petzold, such as his minuet in G major
>>87174417Hill isn't an academic, so his fraudulence is irrelevant (as is his irrelevance).
>>87174366these fuckers and their children
>>87174366Cage (not even a musician)
>>87174600Cage is irredeemable shit but that picture is cringey as fuck, and factually wrong
>>87174628it’s funny man chill, what is inaccurate about it?
>>87174628>>87174600He's right. Music doesn't actually need rhythm to be great. That would invalidate the existence of every piece composed in first species counterpoint.
>>87174628>tfw a stupid libetal tries to debate me
>>87174655Music has more than three elements and at any given time it can do without one or more of them. That and that last sense is absolutely meaningless.That said, I repeat, Cage is shit and that piece is literally not music, and that's not up for debate.
>>87173410I want to read Shoenberg's books but I dont want to end up as indoctrinated and braindead as this guy
>>87175036I've already DELETED that comment and I've better clarified the idea there. And let's not overlook the fact that I thought Liszt lived into his 90s (probably because of the associations with Faust).
>>87175093unironically kill yourself today
>>87175125Does everything have to come to the absolute extreme of recommending suicide?
>>87175175you're far from everything, boy
>>87175250What does that even mean? Go get tested for autism.
>>87175175>Does everything have to come to the absolute extreme of recommending suicide?>>87175250>you're far from everythingMeans: No, not everything, just you, who are not nearly everything.Get tested for pulse and make sure to get that treated ASAP
>>87175290No, I mean how the hell can the idea of Mozart writing "atonal" passages in his music in 1840 make you so mad that you try to impel someone to commit suicide for coming up with it. Its just ridiculous.
>>87175332I don't see how Mozart comes into this. I just really want you to not be alive.
>>87175348You hate me but I'm living in your head rent free.
>>87175374>You hate meI don't see what drove you to this conclusion. >I'm living in your head rent free.I'm sure I would have been affected by this back when I was 8
>>87175348>/classical/ memes me into existence by constantly posting my youtube comments>tiny, almost insignificant cult of personality forms>/classical/ starts calling for my death You guys sure aren't bright.
>>87175406You're delusional and insignificant
>>87175423How am I delusional? This is exactly what happened.
>>87175453a) there is no cultb) it's only one guy who wishes you'd die (about to become two, though)
>>87175423also >insignificant >"almost insignificant"Its almost like I'm agreeing with you in advance.
>>87175501officially two people want you to die now
>>87175523I don't fucking care. I still have a point in saying that /classical/ created a tripfag they didn't even want. Actually two if you count Hans.
>>87175562>I don't fucking care.sure you don't>I still have a point in saying tha-no one cares
>>87175580I will care when the Ayatollah calls for my death, not a couple shitposters. And while its all well and good that you don't care about your fuck-ups, you still fucked up. That's just an objective reality.
>>87175633>I will care when th-no one cares
>>87175668This captcha-fuel says otherwise.
Actually the guy who started collecting my youtube comments said he was trying to dox me, for, get this Apu posting. I mean fuck, what kind of diet and sleep-schedule are you on that you have the temperament of an autistic toddler cat? Do a fucking personal inventory.
>>87175753who are you
>>87175753Stop it.I'm personally not bothered by your existence, but it's simpler for everyone when you just don't reveal yourself at all. Post normally and no-one will tell you to die.
>>87175775It doesn't matter who I am. What matters is my plan (to stop being a meme against my will).
>>87175790>(to stop being a meme against my will).quitting avatarfagging is step 1 through 5
>>87175789I got in this position from posting normally. I just happened to be saying the same things in two different forums and one required registration.
>>87175812Apu, an avatar? Are you retarded? Like over 50% of the site posts Apu. Look, posting style is just a reality. No matter what somebody does, they are going to have consistencies in their posting that can be identified with aggressive autism (the anti-Apu guy for instance). The important thing is to just ignore it.
>>87172304>Scriabin can't compete with BachWhat is the point of such retarded anachronistic statements?
>>87172671Read the Pfitzner-Berg essays about Schumann and aesthetics.
>>87175872Just stop avatarfagging. Just stop.
>>87175880You already made that comment. But the point is for all of Scriabin's Zaniness the mathematical perfection of Bach must win out over the mere imagination of Scriabin.
>>87175406You're an incredible narcissist who has almost ruined this general. Fuck off.
>>87175929What avatars are off limits. I guess Apu, that cat, probably anything that's been put through deepart.io. Smug anime girls. Carl from Aqua Teen. Anything else you'd care to add to my blacklist? How about I just don't mention any of the composers I frequently talk about either.
>>87175981>What avatars are off limitsAvatars
>>87175960Thanks for noting that I am incredible. No but for real I don't want any of this fucking attention and you can blame that sperg who got so butthurt about frogposting that he actually tried to dox me. Were it not for his efforts I'd be anonymous like the rest of you cunts.
>>87175999Well I don't use any avatars, so this works out nicely.
>>87176026>I don't want any of this fucking attentionstop posting then, right now, cool off for the rest of the day, and never make (or heed) any mention of "you" again
>>87176026>No but for real I don't want any of this fucking attentionThen don't fucking post with an avatar.
>>87176063I'm not the one routinely posting these screenshots and calling them "cringe" or "based" for that matter. I have the former screenshot. I maybe posted it once or twice and never in the actual general because I know personalities are cancer in the general. I mean for fuck's sakes, you guys had a spiteful strawpoll about how I'll never be able to compose serious music. You're as obsessed with me (yes, the personality) as leftists are with Trump.
>>87176078here are the avatars >>87174417>>87175036Yes, stop posting them.
>>87176167stop posting, now
>>87176213No, fuck you. Actually maybe I am a narcissist because I'm pretty sure the general would die without me (no not the personality, the guy with the empty schedule, level of knowledge and audacious samefaggotry to keep the general going at all hours).
>>87176251no one cares, stop posting
>>87176300no one cares about you and you stop posting. Actually a fuck ton of people care about me because they keep posting about (me). You're probably posting petzold while I'm actually commenting on the fucking music and filtering out all the youtube rec--core shit to bring you the diamonds in the rough. Here's a list of composers I brought to /classical/. >Panufnik >Langaard >Dallapiccola >Fritz Heinrich Klein>probably Zelenka (10 years ago)>probably Rautavaara (also 10 years ago) These composers weren't talked about before I started promoting them. I've been with the general for a decade. Who the fuck are you?
>>87176251>I'm pretty sure the general would die without melol
>>87176431stop posting today and always
>>87176486you stop posting, fucker. Worst case scenario I'll just pose as a Chinese boomer with a proclivity for renaissance music.
>>87176431>Here's a list of composers I brought to /classical/.>Shit>Shit>Shit>Shit>Shit (10 years ago)>Shit (also 10 years ago) >I'm pretty sure the general would die without meof laughter, surely
>>87176511>dude pump up that Rachmaninoff!
>>87176167>>87176431You seriously need to go.
>>87176511>calling Zelenka "shit"I'm sorry, do you even like music?
>>87176544no, you need to go. Anyone who says the word "you" in response to ANY of my posts from this point on needs to go. Its just that si
>>87176556I think we have drama tourists here now. There's people in the thread that are just here to express fake outrage about internet drama they don't even care about. Its fucking pathetic.
>>87176556>>87176573shhh just stop posting
>>87176609>to express fake outrage about internet dramayou mean like>>87175753>>87175872>>87175981>>87176026>>87176167>>87176251
Sorry Hill i'm the guy who posted your comments first, proof the trinity comment is from Mozart adagio and fugue and the mozart atonal comment is from Shoenberg SQ4I didn't know people would bully you this much i just posted it first for fun because i knew that guy would browse /classical/Honestly is your fault for spamming your Shoenberg influenced opinionsalso i'm the frogposter with shit english I'm putting a name in my posts now because i lost my frog folder kek
>>87176645no, that's very real outrage. You fucking come into my home, force me out of my anonymity, presume to dictate terms to me and tell me to GTFO? Yeah, I'm not pissed off at all about this.
Okay here's the poll. https://www.strawpoll.me/17824457
>>87176702>no, that's v--sh, get out>>87176682you too
>>87176682>the guy who forced me into proxy tripfaggotry is Glen Ghoul and the smug-frog poster. Wow big surprised.
>>87176682>>87176702If you ain't quitting the faggotry at least have teh decency to get a tripcode
>>87176724people who start polls are the ones who need to leave t b h
Brahmshttps://youtu.be/U2RdH4jrelAI have the lasalle quartet version but i'm posting this amadeus quartet version
>>87176866Even the piano concerto and violin concerto polls?
How do you guys listen to opera? Do you keep the libretto in front of you and follow along? Or do you just listen and watch the visuals, hearing the vocal lines like instruments? Are there any of you that can somehow actually understand what's being said?
>>87176955>listen and watch the visuals, hearing the vocal lines like instrumentsthat is, literally, the only way to enjoy opera. If you want a story read a fucking book
>>87176955i just listen to the music
>>87176987>>87176993No wonder you guys hate Wagner so much around here.
>>87176955I really dont care about the libretto its usually cringy shit-tier poetryI just listen to the musicMy fav opera is Les Troyens
>>87177006I love Wagner and just posted this>>87176987 Are you about to tell me that his librettos are better than his music?
>>87176955watch the video of performance while reading the libretto and the score
>>87177020No, but it's, by Wagner's own ideology, quite important to the music. "Total Work of Art" and what not
>>87177056>Wagner's own ideologyWhy should I give a shit about that?
>>87176987>>87176993Don't you get distracted by that nagging feeling like you need to find out what's actually being sung? Like I'm watching The Love for Three Oranges right now, it's obviously great, but the visuals are so WTF that I can't enjoy it properly, I feel like I HAVE to find the libretto, and I can't even find it online. It's really preventing me from getting into opera in general.
>>87177098sometimes i read the libretto sometimes i dont
>>87177098>Don't you get distracted by that nagging feeling like you need to find out what's actually being sung?For starters, no. But even if it did, I've read most of the works Wagner used as a source for the librettos of his major operas anyway (and am thus aware of how butchered some are, like the Ring cycle), and those I haven't read don't really pique my curiosity (like Die Meistersinger). As I said, if you want a story, go read a book. Music is what I look for in composers, not stories.
>>87176987>>87176993>>87177016If you don't read the librettos, why not just listen to non-opera works instead? It's not like there aren't plenty of them. You are definitely getting a lesser experience if you ignore part of the work, the fact that the composers even bothered turning them into operas in the first place can attest to this.
>>87177271>why not just listen to non-opera works instead?Because I fucking like operas maybe??>You are definitely getting a lesser experienceWe are all at one moment or another getting a lesser experience. If we were to ditch the experience altogether because it's "lesser" then we'd all be listening to pop music. An opera isn't any less good in my ears just because I'm not aware of the plot, much in the same way it's not any less good just because they're singing in a language I don't understand. Stop being so dense.
>>87177310>Because I like fucking operas maybe??If you completely ignore the librettos and plot, then you're not getting anything more than you would from a tone poem or song cycle. Stop being so mad.
>>87177343>Stop being so mad.Maybe if you stop being so retarded, reread my posts and consider how fucking stupid your replies are. But that won't happen, so the general tone of my posts will continue, shit-for-brains.
>>87177366lmaoNo wonder you can't take the librettos or plots. Any semblance of human interaction would just be too much for you to bear.
>>87177411>I am going to ignore your previous posts, and arrive to a completely unrelated conclusion based on how hurt my feelings areu a bitch
>>87177481Wow. There isn't even any need for me to post the meme trigger buzzword. You're quite LITERALLY seething.
>>87177516u a bitch
>>87172568Where the fuck do you get your knowledge from?
>>87178286there is barely any information in these threads since hans stopped posting
>>87178286Specialized media maybe? Teachers? Professional musicians? They're not fairytale creatures, you know>>87178354shut up Hans
>>87178368i'm not implying he was right, just he would occasionally catch a fellow autist and make them write out paragraphs, now it's back to shitposting
>the pleb low brass>the patrician french horn
>the pleb french horn>the patrician Vienna horn
You know guys, the thing I don't understand about Wagner's supposed legacy? How its not completely overshadowed by Berlioz and his son-in-law, Liszt. They were pushing the boundaries of tonal resolution decades before Tristan was published.
>>87179125meme magic predates the Internet, my son
>>87179154I think you may be confusing Wagner with Grieg.
>>87179177No, Grieg is actually good
>>87170138actually sounds kinda interesting, i'll give it a try>>87170322so?>>87171440pleb>>87171488kaprálová>>>>>>>f*nny mendeljew>>>>>>clara shoeman>>87179062>the virgin vienna horn>the CHAD Wagner Tuba
>>87179210>CHADit was a meme tuba, a bad meme and like all bad memes it died out after the initial rush
>>87179197Yes because he had special frog powers.
>>87179228and pretty much only used by other memers like Strauss, Stravinsky and Varèse
>>87179228Come on, there's a reason the only brass getting solo parts in concertos are French Horns throughout most of the common practice period. It makes the nicest sound. The Wagner Tuba is just a low register french horn.
>>87179276I uh, wasn't defending the Wagner tuba in case you didn't notice
>>87179310In case you didn't notice, I am provoking an argument with you for that very reason, in case you didn't notice.
>https://youtu.be/qoWdtGUe5fc?t=416reminder that g*rmans stole their hymn from this piece
>>87179378>oh I know, I'm just being retarded on purposeAh, I see
>>87179388>German's stole their own musicGet this hothead out of here!
>>87179273don't forget based incel
>>87179418>oh I see, I'm the retarded one for posting greentext brainlet wojaks when I could be posting the real deal. Okay, we've reached a point of mutual understanding.
>>87179465I think he was more of a vocel. Or is it volcel?
>>87179496Nobody cares about culturally distinguishing Austria from Germany except Austrians and pedantic little shits from /his/.
>>87178368Those cost money and are real people, I refuse to interact with teachers ever again
>>87179177>talks about Kekism>rolls 77
I can't stop listening to Mozart's 38th send help
>>87179700Nah, you're good mate. Just make sure you're listening to different interpretations.
>>87179650Specialized media is free if you're not a moron
>>87179750I do study online and test myself frequently along with the one piano teacher I've forced myself to endure
>>87179496Based i'm saving these Frogs since i've lost my Frog folderDid someone save that Frog thats looking himself into the mirror? it was one of my favsFuck it i'm gonna go back to all the previous threads to have back all my Frogs
>>87179775boy wait until you find out about this Google Images thing
>>87179802It would be impossible to find the frog looking himself into mirror and all the other weird variations i use to have
>>87179849>>87179775>collecting Pepes instead of Apus Its not 2012 anymore fellas.
>>87179766Yeah and people say Sonatas aren't weird.
>>87179871Tuxedo pepe is recent it was born in /tv/ when Black Panther came out i think
>>87179900tuxedo apu > tuxedo pepe
>>87179890>people say Sonatas aren't weird
>>87179918I said last thread why are everyone's sonatas weird except Mozart's.
>>87179900>>87179916we all hate you
>>87179958And you were also wrong there. Would you like to be wrong a third time? Free of charge!
>>87179997okay, what is weird about Mozart's sonatas? Generally I find them to be the most conventional things in his repertoire.
>>87180040>what is weird about Mozart's sonatas?>implying they arepleasure doing business withcha
>>87180040You dense motherfucker
>>87180057Irony/post-irony: PepeNew Sincerity: ApuIts just a natural evolution guys. The time has come to admit we're just retarded autistic finnish frogs at the end of the day.
>>87180050>>87180076Look my only point is that for whatever reason even his orchestral works are more audacious than his sonatas. Of course some of the other piano miscellany is wacky but them sonatas? Just straight-backed Big-C Classical. Why?
>>87180102New Sincerity came before Post-irony
>>87180120And my point is that some sonatas are weird, some are not, there is no pattern, and Mozart's weirdness is fairly well distributed amongst his oeuvre. So I don't know what to tell you about that. Besides you seem to think audacious is weird? THAT is weird.
Look who's back in TownBach played by an emotionless blonde girl to celebratehttps://youtu.be/R0nZjkh-U7I
>>87180040Can someone please answer this guy's question for real I've been following for a while now
>>87180152yes, audacious is weird. Its a huge risk to play unconventional music to the stuffy aristocrats paying your way, let alone a whole theatre full of them expressly there to hear the music, as in an orchestral work. Many composers took advantage of their sonatas as an opportunity to really let lose. I would say Beethoven's and Schubert's sonatas are among their most idiosyncratic works. It makes sense that solo piano works would be more "audacious".
>>87180282it's been answered
>>87180282they're basically just saying that I'm wrong in thinking sonatas are typically among the weirdest works of composers.
>>87180312You have just explained what audacious means, but not why it's weird. It's the single most natural direction all arts can take. Audacity is inevitable.
>>87180288Based and checked
>>87180338>Audacity is inevitable.necessary even
>>87180338I think you're being a semantic pedantic.
>>87180338Then it's not audacious
>>87180379Yes it is, at the time. Then we become accustomed, and it becomes commonplace. That's the way things go, you'll notice.No one, today, would literally fucking RIOT if they were exposed for the first time to the Rite Of Spring, but that was what happened in 1913. It was audacious then, not now.
>>87180374No its not a copout. You're insisting that the definition of weird is like I guess "action contrary to a given nature" and mine is "presentation that contravenes convention". I'm talking about an artistic category and you're being a dick and making it about human behavior and shit.
>>87180422You underestimate just how much the French like to destroy shit in feigned indignation. Especially where regards eastern-european and slavic culture.
>>87180492It is but one example, my dude
>>87180475No no no no, (YOU) moved the goalposts.
>>87180422You're chancing the subject. He's saying Mozart's sonatas were not audacious for their time either. Let alone ours.>>87180374You're totally bringing semantics into this unnecessarily
>>87180511>n-no, u ;_;how much lower can you go>>87180531Yes, I changed the subject. I made that very clear once the previous subject was settled (they're not noticeably less weird than any of his other main works)>You're totally bringing semantics into this Tends to happen when you communicate with non-arbitrary written language>unnecessarilyThere is no such occasion
>>87180558>>bringing semantics into this unnecessarily>There is no such occasionJesus you're a faggot. Are you pic related
Hey all. I’m looking for the best choir recordings/pieces I can find. I scoured through the folders and couldn’t find much, though maybe I just didn’t look in the right place. Any suggestions?
>>87180689I'd tell you BUT you posted an anime looking image so though luck pal
>>87180715>>87180716Dude we both posted at the exact same time that's gnarly
>>87180716Sure. I’m a classical trombonist so I don’t know much about the choral literature.>>87180715Apologies. I’ll make it up to you with pic related. Any input you have will be greatly appreciated.
what's the best recording of bruckner 8? also there's a fuckton of versions
>Fall in love with girl from physics lab>She asks me to take summer courses with her>Hit her up on text and talk about what to take in the summer>She stops replying after a few days>I'm worried>See her today with a faggy mexican>She texts me that she isn't taking any summer classes anymoreSymphonies for this feel?
>>87180891anything by Bruckner
>>87180885Unironically Celibdache with Munchen Phil
>>87180885Celibidache(i'm not memeing)>>87180891>Got Cucked by Spic Classic
>>87180891How do you fall in love with a girl for real
>>87180952>>87180939Bros she's the perfect classical waifu. She's played the violin for 7 years.There was a Piano Trio performing on campus two weeks ago. I had no one to go with and I randomly asked her out to it. She said yes. I literally fell in love with her listening to Beethoven's Archduke Trio in B-flat. She even said she'd play Sibelius' Violin Concerto for me some day.Why did she do this to me?
>>87180999Life is a hostile thing that effectively hates you and you should've already learned that by now you fucking Sisyphus
>>87180904This really helps for some reason. Never really liked Schoenberg before this.
>>87181024It's not very representative of Schönberg overall, though, but you're bound to like his Pelleas Und Melisande
>>87180999i wish i met a girl like this (without the getting part).
What are y'all doing falling in love anyway? What are you 17? It's bad for you, it's like smoking, all you get is a nice feeling that fades away quickly and an empty pocket. Spend that money on hookers and you'll be a happy man.
>>87181147What if I'm not a degenerate hedonist?
>>87181168>falling in love>not degenerate and hedonistoh, or, do you believe in soulmates and santa and stuff like that?
>>87180999Checked, just dont be so patheticDid you reveal your power level in front of her? or acted like a Beta?From experience you probably showed too much affection for her and she didn't like that, i dunno>>87181147Based boomer
>>87181233WHY THE FUCK ARE WOMEN LIKE THIS? WHY ARE THEY TURNED OFF BY "TOO MUCH AFFECTION"?Are we supposed to read their minds now?
>>87181272>WHY ARE THEY TURNED OFF BY "TOO MUCH AFFECTION"?Makes you look submissive i think, they are the ones supposed to show "too much affection"
Medtnerhttps://youtu.be/w509W0P1QHwGoing to sleep now bye
>>87181272>WHY ARE THEY TURNED OFF BY "TOO MUCH AFFECTION"?Cause they don't want another girlfriend, they want a boyfriend. Sorry m8, the Chads were right. Be confident, have firm opinions that you're not afraid to share and don't be a fag. You're driving a motorcycle with a sidecar, not a gay tandem bike.
>>87175818>4chan>forumYou really need to go bach
>>87175910Where i can read them?
>>87182217His string quartet No.8 is my favorite
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