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The series finale has been uploaded

Not available in English yet but a screenshot says a thousand words. If you want to go into it fresh and spoiler-free, get off the internet now. Report spoilers where you see them, Scruffy is probably in complete panic mode and needs your help.
The current release schedule for English episodes is:
9x22 - August 30 in China
9x23 - September 3 in Australia
9x24 - September 4 in Australia
9x25 - September 5 in Australia
9x26 - September 8 in Australia

I kind of knew it would end like this but that doesn't change the tidal wave of feels. I'm still not ready for it, knowing it was coming for years
It was an honor and a privilege to poni poni with all of you these past nine years. I wouldn't trade it for anything.
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>>34286736
MOOOOOOOOOOOOODS
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>>34286736
Daaaaaw
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>>34285217
Someone link it to me right now.
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>>34286736
:o
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>>34285629
Wait, so between doing the royal duties and guarding dreams, when would she sleep?
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>>34285204
>Flutterpie
Good choice, pal
https://www.youtube. com/ watch?v=fxKljK0hH10
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>Celestia is over a thousand years old and has been the sole ruler of Equestria for the vast majority of that time
>Luna was born over a thousand years ago but in practice is probably still in the double digits thanks to being banished, and has only resumed a position of rulership for the past five or so years
>both princesses retire at the same time

Does anyone else find this extremely odd? Is Luna just exploiting her sister's desire for retirement to dump everything on Twilight and go on NEET holiday for a thousand years?
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>>34286786
Who else would guard the dream realm? (I could possibly see Fluttershy doing it, but she doesn't have the alicorn magic necessary.)

And wouldn't she be asleep while she's doing it?
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>>34286822
>Who else would guard the dream realm?
Luna, of course!
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>>34286822
>And wouldn't she be asleep while she's doing it?

Celestia is awake when we see her use Luna's power to enter the dream realm, and Luna is shown as being dead tired in the morning after a night of dream-guarding. It doesn't seem to be possible for one pony to do both jobs without them somehow not needing to sleep at all.
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>>34286846
Hmmm... so this "retirement" is more of Twilight taking Celestia's position and replacing her as Luna's co-ruler in a "the future belongs to the youth" kind of statement... I'd imagine the two would get along well, no?
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ok so i watched s9 E24,25 and 26 in English with a hostel friend. (he's not a fan of the show, he sometimes hang out with me, so we watched MLP:FiM sometimes, watched few big episodes so he sort of understand the story-line a bit, and still continuing in season 1). So he know a bit of the characters.

From his comment,
the final battle was really epic, confusion for him cuz he didn't watch every episode.
The villain turn into stone he feel nothing special about it (from the view of a normal viewer), but when i explained the issue then he gets it.

About the epilogue, he was also shocked, he thinks rainbow dash looks really handsome though. But the other ponies turn old was also a shock for him, say twilight look so thin, still look nice. He commented that he didn't get to see Celesta and Luna and other characters so it's kinda weird and he felt like something's missing.
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>>34286805
>twilight has to stay away 24/7 now
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>>34286885
Also we thought that there were supposed to be 4 princesses ruling Equestria.
https://youtu.be/9oMY5YRdhAQ

But i guess after season 8 everything changed quite a lot.
at season 9 premier i thought at least twilight and her friends going to rule Equestria together. But in the final it was a shock, now twilight's is alone and visit friends once a month. I guess it's a relatable experience when i'm graduating.
[blog]
I can feel the feels. Before i come to college i wasn't really keen on friendship and i almost had no friends, only know classmates, but after i went to college and met MLP, i realized the magic of friendship and after December i'm probably going to move on as well like Twilight.


So for me i guess Epilogue has a ok lesson, but the way it present with the future timeline with all those shipping/cucking and the issue of twilight outlive her friends and more. It kinda sucks. It closes the book, but there remains so many questions.
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>>34286884
I wouldn't say so, given that both Celestia and Luna give up their crowns to be merged into Twilight's. Both of them also mention they're going off to live in Silver Shoals (because I guess they like being surrounded by old geezers about to kick it while still in their physical primes for some bizarre fucking reason), so Luna is officially throwing away her position as ruler and fucking off despite being (comparatively) very young and only ruling for a very brief period. It makes absolutely no sense.
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I’m not mad about shipping, I’m mad about GAY shipping.

Think about it. Lyra and Bob Bon will never know the joys of motherhood. They won’t get to watch their children grow up and live and love as they did. They will never go to their children’s graduations, or weddings, or the birth of their grandchildren. They will die with no one to care or provide for them in their old age. Who could be happy for their waifu to suffer that fate?
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Jesus I feel dumb, I just realized that the scarf old AJ is wearing its Granny's one
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>>34264329
Unf
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>>34264445
>Tirek and Discord sharing their powers

So is this basically an "'I win' button" if Tirek can use chaos magic to steal everypony's magic and render everypony powerless (minus the princesses, of course, whom he could only weaken a bit)?
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>>34286904
>because I guess they like being surrounded by old geezers about to kick it while still in their physical primes for some bizarre fucking reason

Maybe it's because the city has no income tax (and they may already have a vacation palace there)...

>so Luna is officially throwing away her position as ruler and fucking off despite being (comparatively) very young and only ruling for a very brief period.

So can Luna still rule the dream realm whille she is "retired"? Or is that just one of the few duties that she would retain as a figurehead?
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>>34264445
I like to give the show some leeway, I'm here to enjoy cute horsies not get angry about things, but my god that second to last episode was awful.

Also, fuck discord. He got no punishment other than a scolding by some main characters. He's just an annoying tool in most of the episodes he's in anyway. The finale kinda just made me decide I hated him. A funny joke here and there isn't enough to make up for how much of an idiot and an asshole he is.
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>>34286948
>what is adoption
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>>34286948
Holy fuck this. There's nothing in their world or society or culture that in any way impedes them from having children, except the writers and animators (like always). They'll never be able to know life's greatest joy and most incredible miracle. How can anyone say their waifu is "happy" when they can't even experience the greatest natural phenomenon ever? They'll never know the love of being a mother or receive the love of a child to his mother. It's fucking crushing.
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>>34286948
>>34287036
They're waiting for (You), anon. They went through all the paperwork to start a herd with an alien stallion, had a fun little party with their friends to celebrate the boring parts being done, and now they wake up early every day to check with the husbando immigration bureau to see if you've checked in yet.

Why aren't you working on the portal? Do you enjoy making them wait?
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>>34286948
>>34287036
Honestly I think this is why the idea of lesbian ponies makes me uncomfortable while I don't care at all about fag ponies (if they even exist). There's something saddening about the idea of a woman never having children of her own, especially somepony so family-oriented as Applejack.

The fact that implying the two tomboys of the main cast are gay for each other is really, really fucking dumb for a show that was supposed to be about breaking 'girly' stereotypes really doesn't help either.
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>>34287036
>life's greatest joy and most incredible miracle.
>the greatest natural phenomenon ever
I really hate to do this, but don't you think you hype this a little too hard? Don't get me wrong, I'd long to meet my waifu and found a family with her, though your speech and way to describe this just sounds so overly swollen. But granted, life in Equestria is a completely different class than life here. At least it means something over there.
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>>34287138
> gay
This is bullshit. In Applejack's day off, Twilight and Rariry helps AJ with her daily idiotic chores. Are they lesbians too?
Dialogue in ep 26 only means that AJ is still doing this dumb jumps around farm animals.
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>>34286805
It's a ploy, Celestia sent Twilight off to Ponyville because she was such an annoying student, but then she became a princess so they decided to overload her with villains and duties until she finally kills herself.
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>>34286948
>not just using a futa spell
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>>34287376
>until she finally kills herself.

Then the glorious and peaceful future Twilight imagines in the finale may never come because she would never get to be a part of it... and because there may be mass chaos if nopony were there to take the throne.
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>>34286958
Yes and Winona is also dead by now. AND her aunt Delicious. And any other senior member that was at the reunion
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>>34281419
Showing Ponk's kid implies otherwise.

They honestly should have never shown Ponk's kid if they wanted to be ambiguous. Second they showed her filly it begged the question as to why we didn't see anyone else's. Not even AJ's when she was on the fucking farm or Rarity's at the boutique...
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>>34287505
Winona can be seen at the farm with her fur all grey, someone indicated that her presence disprove a 20 years skip because dogs age, at least 15 tops.
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>>34287706
Don't forget that Josh Haber's script implies AppleDash no matter how much people try to deny it. They robbed us of the mane 6 getting happy endings for a worthless cringe lesbian ship that was never explored in the series like 90% of cartoon finales these days.
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>>34286948

dude they're going to have so many lesbian magic babbies
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>>34287723
That just makes it worse because it means the main six have aged unbelievably poorly. They should be in their 30's with a skip like that yet every one of them looks on the wrong side of middle age, especially Rarity with her grey hair.
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>>34287738
Oh man, I was writing my clopfics wrong the whole time.
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>>34287741
If you spent over 15 years teaching at school, helping a princess to rule Euestria, fighting bad guys and having other adventures, you wouldn't look any better.
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>>34286980
>some leeway
^:)
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>>34287733
>Josh (((Haber)))

Says it all really.
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we never got our third nightmare night episode with Applejack dressed as the tinpony...
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Can someone who's seen the epilogue tell me if there's any references at all to Luster Dawn's friends being non ponies and if the only time they're shown is in the very last scene when the mane 6 sees them off? I'm wondering if it's possible to just erase them and put our own new mane 6 there.
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>>34287843
We never got our third gala episode with Applejack dressed as the tinpony...
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>>34287863
Leave the kirin. She was cute.
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>>34287893
I liked the griffon.
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>>34196514
>the last episode of the entire series aired on my birthday
>mfw 22 now
>I've been watching this magical horse show for almost a decade now
>the ending was mediocre at best and I feel like it didn't get a proper sendoff
>the writers are hacks
Thanks.
God why am I so autistic?
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>>34287733
I kinda don't like the implications of the mane 6 being shipped with each other, I feel like it undermines the platonic, close bond they share. Can't they just be best friends?
Lyrabon and Startrix is cute though
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>>34286948
They could still adopt.
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>>34287723
>Winona can be seen at the farm with her fur all grey,
Where? All I have seen were three young dogs. Winona's offspring for sure, but she was never shown herself.
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Discord was never a good character beyond being a villain.
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>>34287893
>>34287893
Depends on what anons want to do when we start the project. I'm writing up some introductory ideas on how we're can fix the shitty ending with only around 1 minute of new animation and I'll start a new thread for it tomorrow. Personally I think the "diverse" friends for Luster Dawn are completely trash with DHX putting zero effort into their designs. Having nonponies as her friends not only lessens the importance and impact of the student 6 but also suffocates the audience with the feeling of ponies being replaced in their own society. I would go with five tastefully designed OC mares that have some hints to their personality traits representing the elements. It would also be a good opportunity for depicting a daughter for Rainbow Dash. While it would be asymmetrical and odd to have only some of the mane 6's kids be part of the new elements, I think Rainbow Dash's would be fitting because she stands out as the one who brought the mane 6's destinies together in the first place. Though as I've said before, the point would be to have everyone get a choice for their own ending by providing multiple permutations of what we create and just have a ffmpeg script in the download that would join the changed clips of your choice into the rest of the episode.
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>>34288108
I thought Lustre's friends were fine except for that stallion that had a fucking hamburger as his cutie mark
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I just wanted a good ending
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>>34288133
I don't know why but i don't think a single western animated show has a had a definitive good ending aside maybe F&F
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>>34288173
Fuck i meant from this decade
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>>34288173
Endings are tough because you either get underwhelmed by it being exactly what they've built up to or it's just unintelligible trash that throws away everything they've built up to.
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>>34288173
Gravity falls had a good ending
So did avatar the last airbender
That's all I can think of
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>>34288223
Last air bender was pre 2010
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>>34288241
Shit really? I'm getting old.
Fuck legend of Korra while I'm on the topic, what a garbage sequel
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>>34288257
You and me both anon I had to double check
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>>34287142
No. I don't think there's a single thing in the world that rivals creation as a miracle. I mean, literally what else is more miraculous than life and sentience and, on top of that, the level of complexity and sophistication that is the human mind? I don't think there's any other relationship that's as that of a mother who loves her son and vice versa, it's a connection on many levels, perhaps not the deepest in their world though (since friendship is pretty much the pinnacle). Still a significant one. Obviously I'm being idealistic and extremely sentimental, probably not even a quarter of the mothers in the world have this good of a relationship with their children. But that's the point. Equestria is a fictional, idealistic paradise which has beatified fucking friendship to ascended levels. That's part of the original spirit of the show. They can write whatever story they want and make it as idealistic as they wish and they should be writing to inspire. And for the most part parenthood was depicted in a really positive light. It wasn't until the later seasons with scootaloo that it started to get a bit dark and Faust never even intended that; it only seemed to come about because they waited so long that it tied their hands. There are basically none of the limitations on parenthood that we face here in their world, not economic, not social, not cultural; there's nothing stopping them from having children and experiencing the relationship in its most idealized form. In essence, it's just kind of a bad story where they miss out on something completely unique to the female sex.

It really bothers me that these beautiful and innocent mares don't get to experience motherhood. Maybe it's just some fundamental thing for me but I'll never be okay with it.
>>34287138
The case of AJ annoys me the most; it was like the one thing she had and it was so intrinsic to her character.
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>>34288271
Stopped reading at the first 3 sentences, fuck christfags. People shit out ugly subhumans every day you smelly troglodyte
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>>34288288
You should have kept reading then. He refers solely to Equestria later on. In this case he is right. Though I wouldn't elevate it at all in our world. Life and and sentience is the cheapest resource of all here. Easy to exploit, available en masse, and fully self-sustaining. I know it sounds edgy, but that's just how it is.
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>>34288288
What's more miraculous than life? Name anything; I doubt it compares. Look at the vastness of our solar system and then compare how fractional and tiny humanity is. Yeah, this world sucks. But why does their world have to suck too when they shit out cute ponies?
>>34288357
Again, that's the point. Fictional stories can be idealistic. That's part of the appeal. Our world sucks ass but we can take the good concepts and project them, making nice, moving and inspiring stories. It's not even a new phenomenon, pastorals are one of the most ancient forms of poetry.
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>>34288085
I assume the grey one is an old dog, they have the same base and dogs usualy grow to their adult form very quickly.
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>>34288093
It's true. Every episode he's been in has him act as an asshole who usually causes or inflames the conflict. I don't know how anyone can like him or his borderline malicious bullshit. I called dwk a faggot for disliking him so intensely but now I realize he was right all along.
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>>34288424
I'm not sure. They all looked rather young because, as you said, they're all based on the same model. Could be an old Winona or just a young dog with light fur colors by birth. We can't say that with finality.
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>>34288404
>What's more miraculous than life?
The universe. We can't understand it, we can barely grasp its size, and whe have no concepts of what might be 'beyond', if there is something at all. Its existence is crazy to begin with, yet wholly orderly from what we can gather. Life itself on the other hand is just a small side note of reality. A tiny facet of a system we may never understand.
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>>34288466
It's funny, at this point we probably know more about the universe than the mysteries of life. We (maybe) know how the universe started, but we don't know where consciousness came from, how it really works or how to replicate it.
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>>34276513
>>34277115
You thought you were too clever huh?
https://spectralunicorn.tumblr.com/post/157234105797/i-drew-a-silly-little-valentines-day-comic
https://spectralunicorn.tumblr.com/post/170430809027
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>>34288490
>but we don't know where consciousness came from, how it really works or how to replicate it.
You're right on the replication part (yet at least), but there are some pretty good theories on the matter of how life formed. We can obviously not prove them in a lab (at least not in the near future), but they look solid from what we can tell with today's knowledge. The rest is 'simply' billions of years of evolution. Simple life forms reproduced, became ever more complex, and eventually led to the situation we have today. The basic concept isn't so hard.
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>>34288223
Last airbender had a 'decent' ending.
The build up was great but they stumbled right at the end with the island turtle bulshit and Aang getting certified fire-lord acupuncture™ to unlock his OP mode.
I think we can all agree Iroh was the best part of the series.
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>>34288466
The universe is a good contender insofar as its size is so daunting and completely baffles our minds. However, I think it also works to the inverse; intelligent life (intelligent as in our level, capable of higher thought and intellectual pursuit), as far as we know, only exists here. As far as anyone can, with worthwhile evidence, say, we're the most intelligent thing in this universe; we're absolutely minuscule, completely insignificant in size to the rest of everything. I think that's what makes it truly miraculous; we're just so small yet so special, possibly even alone. The future may prove me a complete fool, but here and now, with what we do know and have, I think the point stands.
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>>34265185 Hello.
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>>34288591
> As far as anyone can, with worthwhile evidence, say, we're the most intelligent thing in this universe
The lack of evidence does not rule out the possibility though. Yes, we cannot say that there are other life forms out there with certainty, but given how few worlds in space we actually know of, the chances are pretty good that it could exist somewhere else. We have already proven with our existence that it can happen in principle. Add to that the ludicriously long age of the universe, it may also be possible that life has existed somewhere else before, but was destroyed again before it could spread. Or will spawn somewhere long after we're gone. So I'd wager the odds are not in the favour of us being alone out there.
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>>34288557
maybe a bit
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>>34288677
Right, I never meant to say it's impossible or that other life cannot exist, it's very possible, I'm just saying we haven't found any or any evidence of it existing prior; we really can't make assertions in any way since we just don't have anything. We just have our guesses and heuristics and instincts. I doubt within our own short life time we'll find any evidence either. Since we have nothing to really rival the complexity of our mind, I find it to be absolutely unique.

It's a bit strange to think what another intelligent species might look or be like, we're always predisposed to view them as mirrors of ourselves but that's really just from the limitation of our evidence and viewpoints. Who knows whats out there, might even be talking marshmallow horses.
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>>34275854
So where exactly had their relationship "evolved" to that left marriage the "next logical step"? How is standing/eating together in the background for four seasons, then going through some brief drama over Bon Bon's secret and resolving it, then going back to the background "evolving"?
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>>34275992
What, exactly, are you using "redeeming" to mean, if not "convincing a villain to stop doing bad stuff so they don't have to get sent to Tartarus/otherwise punished"?
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>>34276257
...What does G. M. Berrow have to do with storyboarding and animation?
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holy crap I'm tired of fighting with Derpishits about the Cozy bullshit. They are so autistic they say "she's evil" and "pedo" as arguments even if you put forth that human society isn't even that harsh to kids. Ponies are supposed to be NICER than us, and that's the reason I even hate the finale (aside from Discord being Grogar).
I don't give a fuck about Cozy, in fact I didn't like her much. But the smirks and cheering from what they did are disturbing and how can they not see that?
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>>34276418
>No sign of Flurry Heart
Did you miss her having her own stained-glass window?
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>>34288909
>How is them going from merely sitting next to each other to constantly talking with each other to attending a wedding together to having dinner on H&H day to proposing a logical evolution.
They're fucking background characters, that's more than enough for them.
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>>34276772
She already has all of their duties and lives in Canterlot. Didn't you watch the finale?
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>>34288927
Different Gillian. For the last season they brought in someone completely new to oversee S9's animation and it was her idea to have the deformed emoji memefaces. And possibly also the constant human poses, but that's only guesswork.
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>>34276826
Literally who are you talking about?
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>>34288692
Well jokes on you, it only took me three whole fucking days to find.
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>>34288943
>from talking to dinner to marriage
>logical evolution
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>>34288993
>and lives in Canterlot

If Celestia allowed her to live in Ponyville, why did she move back, especially if she has her own castle in Ponyville?
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>>34287843
damn she's cute
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>>34289053
was it fun?
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>>34284921
True. Rarity only used him.
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>>34285290
fund it
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>>34285638
>>34285653
Legit pissed he never got anything but like maybe chewed up a little.
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>>34286088
All I care about is that cunt didn't get wings.
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>>34288929
Why are you arguing with those retards in the first place?
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>>34285653
Remember when he could detect magical imbalance? Cause the writers didn't when the three villains gained Grogar's powers.
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>>34289331
>>34289331
Seeing as Chrysalis didn't use her transformation powers and Tirek didn't use his mass power drain on the army I'd guess they forgot...
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>>34287138
>There's something saddening about the idea of a woman never having children of her own, especially somepony so family-oriented as Applejack.
>tfw back in season 3 the standard was EIGHT foals from apple dumpling (who still looked pretty good)
Applejack had a hard life. She didn't deserve this. No mare deserves this. Every mare should be able to have her own foal(s) who will look up to her and draw pictures for her and tell her about how great things in his/her day was and will wake her up extra early on hearth's warming to open presents and pool all of his/her allowance money together to buy her some small gift that isn't really much but its still absolutely perfect.
>none of the mane 6 besides pinkie will experience this
>lyra will never experience this
>bonbon will never experience this
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>>34289347
that was idiotic.

>>34289745
>No mare deserves this
and they did it to 5 of them, 4 are now barren.

They should've just not show ponks kid if they want things to be ambiguous, better yet don't do the epilogue.
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>>34289745
>>none of the mane 6 besides pinkie will experience this
We really don't know that. AJ/Dash and Lyra/Bon sure but Rarity/Twilight can probably magic up something, Fluttershy and Discord too.
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>>34289807
There's legit no reason to show Ponk's kid, but not the others
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>>34287706

>>34289780
Imagine Flutters, someone who loves and cares for animals for a living not having a child.... No one to care for the sanctuary, nothing.
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>>34281739

Implying he has magical outbursts, they live together, and have a kid. None of that happened Anon.
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>>34289807
>We really don't know that.
Anon, we never saw any of them and they're all old and tired now. "It could happen off screen" is not writing and it isn't story telling, it's bullshit. They made them miss out. There is no reason for them to show pinkie's kid but not the others, assuming they had some.
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>>34281866
https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/34196514/#34264305
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>>34281866
That how much thught they put into aging the ponies

>indistinguishable, except gray hair, unkempt hair and bags under eyes, no husbands, no kids outside pinkie because that would require thought.

They should not have made this epilogue. They didn't give a shit about what they'd be like in the future.

Fuck them
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>>34289829
>good with animals, good with kids
I guess those words were actually a curse.
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>>34289745
They will experience this. We'll all have foals with our waifus
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>>34289829
>There's legit no reason to show Ponk's kid, but not the others
There is no particular reason to show them too, besides why would you take your kids to meet with a princess? Ponk says that she couldn't find a sitter, others probably did.
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>>34289897
I want to believe.
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>>34289904
Read the cooment I fuckin posted man.
>>34287706

>>34287706

>>34287706
> Second they showed her filly it begged the question as to why we didn't see anyone else's. Not even AJ's when she was on the fucking farm or Rarity's at the boutique...
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>>34289959
Same as >>34289910, you can't say for certain they don't have kids, but the writers do a great job of show-not-tell.

There's probably some master word doc or excel sheet on the main Hasbro corporate file share that contains the secrets to the universe with their story conclusions, but getting that is only a dream.
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>>34289959
And? Did they show the whole farm? Inside of the boutique? Maybe they are at school or something?
Read the comment I fuckin posted man.
>There is no particular reason to show them too, besides why would you take your kids to meet with a princess? Ponk says that she couldn't find a sitter, others probably did.
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Why the fuck are posts being deleted for no reason? We discussing the show. What the fuck happened to this place?
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>>34290001
>>There is no particular reason to show them
Why would you not show an important family member from the future in your scene from the future, especially when AJ is singing about the next generation? There's no evidence that they have children at all. They could add anything they wanted, but they chose not to write them with kids. It's that simple.
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>>34290022
There is no hard proof that they don't have children or that they do, it's a possibility, just deal with it.
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>>34290014
There's a couple ban evaders that keep getting their posts wiped
You see flutterfag cuckspam in other threads? Those idiots.
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>>34289897
this
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>>34290000
>but getting that is only a dream.
You know we're talking about Hasbro here, right? I wouldn't be surprised if that thing comes to the light eventually. Their tech security doesn't seem to be that apt.
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>>34288564
>The basic concept isn't so hard.

Alright then, answer this one: why are you you?
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>>34267680
suffering from various age related illness is what makes you look old
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>>34289135
immensely
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>>34290043
There is no proof that they do. They are children. They or the husbands should at least cameo.

If they wanted to go the ambiguous route they should have NOT had Pinkie seen with her husband and kid.
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>>34290001
They don't need to show the entire fucking farm or boutique. The husband and or kid should show up to greet their mother/wife you
idiot.... Jim, is that you?

At school? But pinkie's kid isthere?
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>>34289888
The epilogue was just the writer's giving us a final fuck you..

Shit was intentional.
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>>34290641
>The husband and or kid should show up to greet their mother/wife you
Too complex writing-concept for the writeràs-this dumbass
>>34290001
>>34289904
>>34289807
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The more I think about the more I think DHX ruined the epiligue, not Haber. There's too much disconnect on how long the timeskip should have been. Haber likely wanted Pinkie to be the first to have a kid but DHX made the ponies look like they're in their 50s instead of 35-40. They ruined the big Apple Family by only giving Big Mac one kid and they lazily shat out an insignificant ugly friend group for Luster Dawn when Haber left the possibities open. We as an audience were supposed to still have hope for the mane 6's futures and children, not be dead inside seeing them post menopause with no kids.
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There is no proof Fluttershy and discord live together, are in a relationship, or have a child.
There is no proof that pinkie is married and has a child.
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>>34290731
>There is no proof that pinkie is married and has a child.

"Lil Cheese" There is proof that she was taking care of Cheese's kid though and then holding like it was her own.
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>>34290731
>>34290764
next level delusional.
Big Jim confirmed Lil' Cheese was Pinkie's and Cheese Sandwich's on Twitter.
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>>34290637
>should have NOT had Pinkie seen with her husband and kid
What the fuck, c'mon, she didn't find a sitter for a kid, that's why she's with her. By your logic we didn't see a shitload of very important characters, so what? Are they all dead? Or not important anymore for some reason? Of course not. We just didn't see them.
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>>34290418
Simply put due to a long chain of events that led through time. Starting from the first biochemical reactions somewhere up to the point where we are now. I am me because the larger circumstances made me to who I am.
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>>34290422
Friendship and Rainbow Lasers made them age more quickly than other ponies. Also they all became infertile. Except Pinkie who used some gypsy magic. Twilight got powered up by princesses so she ages not so fast as her friends.
Or maybe Twilight is the cause of all her friends aging that fast, since she is only "young" and grown up from the group - because of involuntary absorbtion of her friends' life force.
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>>34290780
He couldn't, he's on NDA.
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>>34249990
Someone do this pls
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>>34288288
It’s always interesting to me that Fedoralords always associate the beautiful and true with Christianity.
Your bitterness is a choice, you can stop anytime. Go explore a garden or wander a cathedral or museum or something.
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>>34290816
It's was regarding the blatant leaks. Cat was out of the bag, he made several commments about the episode. Might've been partially why he closed his Twitter.
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Flutters didn't deserve this
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>>34290936
didn't deserve what?
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What if Lil' Cheese was Ponk's grand daughter, and the rest of the main six are also married with kids, but the kids are all grown up?
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>>34291008
Highly unlikely. If the cake twins say anything the time split is around 20 years.
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>2011 newfag
>Came here because of the dumb PTS videos
>/mlp/ was home board
>Participated in a lot of autistic threads here
>Hated Season 3 and stopped watching the show after
>Haven't been on /mlp/ in years, moved to other boards
But I heard the show finally ended and had to come check up on you guys. How you all doing? How do you feel now that it's over? Someone want to fill me in on any major developments and what they did with my girl Trixie? I don't think I could handle getting invested again.
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>>34291269

Trixie became a recurring cast member after she befriended another reformed villain. They got some really neat episodes together.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yr1mIqrYRKw
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>>34291269
Exactly the same anon, ocassionally i came to shitpost here.
Still, the time i invested watching the show i unironicaly remember with much joy, i wish i could go back to watch the show anew, along with all that "brony phenomenon" pmv's, games and projects, all that made me feel so happy.
Trixie is my favorite pony too, i don't think they developed the character any further more than another background pony i think she got some dialogue in eqg
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>>34291269
what >>34291302 said. also gif related was a scene that happened
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>>34291302
>>34291313
That is cute, I'm glad she at least got the screen time that was owed to her. Loved this blue horse from her first appearance. Anyone feel like giving a rundown of what happened to the mane six so I can get depressed?
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>>34291334
her character design changed too, mainly in her eyes, and she stopped speaking in the third person, though she's still somewhat on her high-horse, just more considerate.
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>>34291334
>Twilight becomes Purple Celestia after both actual Celestia and Luna fuck off forever
>Rarity stays practically the same, no evidence of a family or significant other shown
>Pinkie has a kid with Cheese Sandwich
>Fluttershy implied to be with Discord
>AJ is slowly transforming into Granny Smith
>Dash turns into a dyke
>AJ and Dash implied to be gay for each other (admittedly the dialogue is very easy to work around but (((Haber's))) intentions are clear)
>all of the mane six look old and worn out apart from Purple Celestia, so much for 'Twilight will not outlive her friends'
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>>34291347
>Those last two lines
Isn't that the complete antithesis to everything Faust wanted for the show? Putting aside Rarity getting fucking nothing and Pinkie marrying a joke character, canon Appledash/immortal Twilight might be the worst possible way to end things.
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>>34291356
yes. there were several anons wondering if ponk and only ponk having a kid was a deliberate spit in the face of Faust considering how hard it was for her to have a kid
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>>34291363
Not sure I'd go that far but having not watched since season 3 I'm not up to speed on all the drama. Would any of the writers have any reason to hold such a grudge against Lauren this far on? You mentioned Haber, is he seething that Lauren denied Dash as a lesbo and blocked him from free pandering points?
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I just realised that the last episode timeskips 20-odd years into the future but we don't get to see grown up Flurry Heart, not even in the background.

This finale just gets worse and worse the more you think about it. It's really quite impressive.
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>>34291374
I'd just say it's this board being this board. Looking for implications that don't exist to "prove" something they don't like is true.
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>>34291398
I just realised that I do not give a singular fuck about Skyla McFlurry and the epilogue is better off without acknowledging her at all (which it, sadly, does)
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>>34291398
Flurry is shown as grown up on stained glass window in the castle at the begining. Right after the intro. But that's all.
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>>34291398
Why are there are so many scenes of Cpt. Picard facepalming in the ST? Does he has headaches or something?
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>>34291420
He had to put up with an unbelievable amount of bullshit over the years.
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>>34291420
Well, he's the best 'friend' of DisQord, so what did you expect?
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>>34291398
Flurry is shown in the glass stained window grown up and leading the Crystal Empire faggot.

>This finale just gets worse and worse the more you think about it. It's really quite impressive.
It's quite impressive your delusions keep telling you that.
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>>34291347
You forgot to mention that Spike hits the gym and becomes dragon Chad while keeping the same voice and personality. Definitely uncanny-valley material.
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I have not entered this board in a looong time, but now with the ending, it made me want to put myself up to date, the last episode I remember watching was one where there was a bioschok infinte reference in the background sorry i dont remember the name
so, which episodes are needed to watch plot-wise?

and as a separate note, what ever happened to anonfilly threads?
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So here's the status of every major villain at the end of the show.

Nightmare Moon: Redeemed
Discord: Redeemed
Queen Chrysalis: Petrified
King Sombra: Dispelled into the ether... again
Lord Tirek: Petrified
Starlight Glimmer: Redeemed
Pony of Shadows: Redeemed
Storm King: Petrified and Shattered
Tempest Shadow: Redeemed
Chancellor Neighsay: Redeemed
Cozy Glow: Petrified
Grogar: Subverted Expectations

Bonus Round: EQG villains

Sunset Shimmer: Redeemed
The Dazzlings: Not a threat but not reformed
Midnight Sparkle: Redeemed
Principal Cinch: Unknown
Gloriosa Daisy: Redeemed
Juniper Montage: Redeemed
Wallflower Blush: Redeemed
Valencia Vignette: Redeemed

Are you happy with how it turned out? If you could switch the fates of any two villains, would you?
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>>34291503
https://youtu.be/swst7QI8YfQ
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>>34291503
You should start with Friendship is Magic Part 1&2
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>>34291513
The irredeemable villains should have received the Sirens' treatment (de-powerment and humiliation) instead of being basically killed off.
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>>34291514
>2013
where has time gone
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>>34291513
>Pony of Shadows: Redeemed
Only Stygian got redeemed and he was only the host, the actual entity was banished and sent back to Limbo.
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>>34291531
>basically killed off.
Except they aren't dead
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>>34291543
The whole deal with Stygian and "the Darkness" he contacted is pretty ambiguous so I just decided to list them as one entry, but yes, I meant Stygian is the one redeemed.
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>>34291313
>>34291346
Hey my friend said Trixie got paired with someone and you didn't tell me you fucking assholes, I'm ultra mad now
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>>34291503
One of the mods got really triggered by anonfilly, and green fillies are banned now.
The threads moved offsite.
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>>34291610
That's because Trixie didn't get paired with anyone.
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>>34291617
I'm relatively new here and guess I missed the days of anonfilly/green filly. what was it like?
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>>34291634
autistic
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>>34291634
Comfy. There were fairly regular greentexts and pictures made there. There were some abusefags that posted, but not as many as some people would have you believe.
As always, someone had to ruin the fun. There's still new stuff being made elsewhere, but not as much as before.
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>>34291670
what exactly happened??
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>>34291629
Nevermind he thinks Trixie and Glimmer are a thing, but that's not implied from what I'm watching
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>>34291672
Shitposters would post bad stuff in the threads. Triggered mod sees this as a good excuse to ban filly entirely instead of actually moderating.
This is speculation of course, since I don't think the mods ever gave an actual reason for banning filly. But based on what I saw in the threads and how individual, non-rule-breaking filly images are still deleted to this day, it make sense.
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>>34291679
Yeah, it isn't implied anywhere between those two. I think if the writers were going to pair Starlight with anyone it probably would have been Sunburst anyway.
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>>34291705
Startrix if it happened would be A Horse Shoe-In each other day.
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>>34291690
I'm curious, though... got an example of some of the better content that came of it, image or green. a link would do so as not to actually post anything here.
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>>34291269
I'm the same, Anon, another oldfag who stopped watching around season 3. My favorite is Twilight and it's kind of mindboggling to see her at full-on Alicorn status now.
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>>34291806
The thread used to maintain a google doc that linked to pastebins for the greentexts. I don't have a link right now, but you might be able to find it in the archive. Most filly images are on derpibooru under the "oc:filly anon" tag.
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>>34290780
That's retarded. Tweets aren't part of Equestria. That doesn't dictate Canon. What happens in the show does.
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>>34276229
shadow kinda looks like a skeletal rat or something
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>>34291503
Don't watch anything if its after s3, even if you already have, or even S3's last 3/4 episodes.

Not only will it be shit, it may as well be G4.5
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>>34291513
The worst thing is considering the context of each villain defeat.
>Discord (S2)
Returned to the status quo of being a statue (later reformed).
>Chrysalis (S2)
Expelled from the area.
>Sombra (S3)
Killed by a side effect of an ancient protective artifact.
>Tirek (S4)
Status quo of imprisonment.
>Pony of Shadows (S7)
Entire conflict is about whether or not he should be reformed.
>Storm King (Movie)
Killed by his own attack backfiring.
>Cozy Glow (S8)
Here's where we see cracks forming with them imprisoning a literal child.
>Sombra (S9)
Evaporated by a direct elements of harmony blast (status quo).
>Cozy, Tirek, Chrysalis
Turned into a statue after being disempowered with the executioners bearing smug faces.

Not a single villain defeat in the show broke the established rules of reformation, return to status quo, or indirect punishment until the the season 9 finale.
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>>34292376
>look mom i posted it once again i'm le ebin edgy oldfag lol xD
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/o/ tourist here. now that the show is over is this board going to be absorbed back into /co/?
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I haven't seen season 8-9 and hear they're not so good. Are there any prerequisite episodes to the finale or can I watch it and still get the gist of whats going on?
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>>34292466
Show is over, but it will be rebooted soon. /mlp/ is here to stay.
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>>34292466
Definitely not, we're a fourth the size of /co/. It would be a massive clusterfuck.
Besides, most posters still despise the show and all the mods hate it with every fiber of their soul. This is a containment board, the same as /pol/ is.
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>>34292466
There is enough fan-made content to last several years even for those who read and watched as much as physically possible. For the majority it's probably about 5 years. I don't mean years as in 24/7 without breaks for sleep and the like, of course.
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>>34292541
You can watch epilogue, but the two parter would be hard to understand until you watch at least S8 premiere, s8 finale and s9 premiere
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The show should have stopped after the movie released, it would have been perfect
>Twilight is just the Princess of Friendship
>No school
>no student shits
>no shitty episodes
>celestia and luna are and still act like regal rulers instead of being a walking joke
>new areas from the movie could be explored in comics, or fanfiction
>characters aren't completley ruined
I fucking hate how the last season and the season before it turned out. it felt like I was watching an alternate universe. How the fuck do people delude themselves into believing that season 8 and 9 aren't canon and continue to enjoy pony or hell how the fuck do Faustfags believe everything after season 3 opening not canon? I'm not joking tell me I want to know how to reach this level of autism.
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>>34288929
Lessons learned, Anon - if you prod a huge turd, it smells more.
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>>34292888
The trick is in realizing canon doesnt mean shit beyond a baseline for discussions wit other people.
Canon / Prime equestria is fucked, but the sheer multitude of alternate universes available make it easy enough to ignore.
It's still shit and i'm still mad as fuck about the writers, but there's absolutely nothing they or anyone else can do which will take away my own equestria, which provides a nice comfort.
If you want advanced autism try self inserting into canon and trying to fix it internally, i had a fun daydream earlier that ended up full anime mary sue tier fight in discords chaos realm with laser beams and shit because why not.
Cant even remember half the shit i imagined but it was pretty catharctic.
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>>34292888
>delude themselves into believing that season 8 and 9 aren't canon
There's a point were even official material becomes so detached from its source that it can easily be considered uncanonical.
Just ask a Trekkie if STD is canon and see what happens.
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>>34292888
>how the fuck do Faustfags believe everything after season 3 opening not canon?
Starting from.
I don't know why is this so hard to imagine. Let's pretend that I gave so much money to Hasbro that it exploded (or, more likely, collapsed into a black hole) and thus I obtained rights to the franchise. Next I appoint Autist McRetard as showrunner and equally talented individuals as writers, animators and so on. Would you still consider it the MLP: FiM? The show you fell in love with in S1?
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>>34292888
>>34293126
Oh, I forgot to say that I exaggerated to get the point across easier. Unless we apply this to S9.
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>>34271182
uhm, this is actually true, as sad as it makes me to admit it.
Does not matter, I still refuse that they kill off one of my most fav character. They basically admit that they have no idea how to resolve Chrysalis ending, because it was clear she would never reform.
In my headcanon--stolen from a fanfic--Chrysalis was secretly in love with Twilight the whole time because of Twi's power and all the attacks against Equestria were part of an old and complex changeling courting ritual to show Twilight that she is mighty enough to be a good mate. Think about what an awesome twist this would've been.
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Now that it‘s all over, which one was the worst season in your opinion, 3, 6, 8 or 9?
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Does anyone know anything about video editing? I want to establish a workflow to edit the finale to remove all the shitty eye lines that make the mane 6 look like they're in their 50s. I'm willing to put in the work to go frame by frame but I don't know how to extract the frames, preserve the quality, and put them back. Essentially I want to do it in a way that will keep the best possible quality as a base for future edits in case some faggots who know how to animate want to put in two more kids for SugarMac or edit the newspaper to reform the villains.
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So, I'm confused.
I haven't posted on this board in ages, but I have still been watching.
Why are people saying rainbow dash and applejack are gay? Did I miss something?
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>>34293291
Because they entered the room at the same time.
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>>34293291
Finale.
Rainbow and AJ arrive together.
Rainbow helps AJ with chores.
Animators chose to draw AJ more feminine and Rainbow more butch, and that's a common theme for lesbian couples.
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>>34293291
They arrive at the same time and bicker about always getting late because AJ is not letting RD help her with chores.

>>34293298
>>34293304
He said appledash, not rarijack.
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>>34293291
>>34293313
It's because they canon live together, permanently, into old age. Not standing next to each other. Permanent cohabitation.

The last episode is like the end of Harry Potter where it jumps ahead 20 years.
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>>34293314
>>34293313
>>34293317
>>34293327

I'll wait until they make a statement on twitter confirming or denying the pairing. They'll probably confirm it on twitter I'm sure since it's twitter and that's always a good PR move to do that.
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>>34291503
Anonfilly threads are exactly where they've always been: >>34234722
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>>34293327
Keep believing in fantasies, shipcuck.
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>>34291503
>what ever happened to anonfilly threads?
check mlpol
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>>34293340
Imagine being a family mare, to the point that in the last song you sing about "passing the magic of friendship down to future generations", and not having any foals of your own because you never married a stallion—because you chose to permanently live with a mare.
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>>34293361
Exactly. It's completely OOC for Applejack. Shippers are delusional and sick in the head.
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>>34293377
No. The point is that's what you believe happened. It's terrible regardless, but the writers did it with "RD is her wife now" in mind—her family.
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>>34293332
Reasonable. The way it is now is not undeniable anyway. Very close friends sometimes move in together after reaching advanced age. But the vibe is pretty clear.
Just headcanon it away if it bothers you, the ending is a travesty.
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>>34292777
Got about 2 hours of pain ahead of me tgen
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>>34293392
>the ending is a travesty.
The thing that bothers me about the ending is that didn't they mention celestia was ruling equestria without luna for like a thousand years? Or did I mishear that? I can understand how they might want to retire after all that time but do alicorns age at a different rate? Do they age differently? Do they grow differently than other ponies? It brings up a lot of existential questions.
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>>34293431
And it's just one aspect of it. Isn't it exciting?
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>>34293478
Nope, just dumb.
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>>34293478
It's interesting for sure.
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>>34293361
>chose
Forced, anon, aj couldn't choose. None of them could. There isn't even an episode or story to point at to say she did have a reason or explanation. It's all so much shit.
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>>34293487
I was sarcastically referencing S1E01. I guess I should've made a cap out of the actual episode but whatever.
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>>34293361
All of this shit. And I mean all of it is caused by the fucking lines under their eyes that Haber didn't even ask for in the first place. It makes you feel like the mane 6 are nearing their end of their lives and their chances for a happy life and future are over. They married their careers, stopped seeing each other, and let their wombs dry out. Remove the lines and suddenly they're 30 something years old with their whole lives ahead of them. They're all on the cusp of starting a family with their off-screen fiances with Pinkie just having a head start.
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>>34293530
>remove eyebags
>make Twilight Cadence-sized
>remove creatures/replace creatures with ponies
I have just fixed the finale
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>>34293566
>remove creatures/replace creatures with ponies
Except for the kirin. The kirin can stay.
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>>34293332
>I'll wait until they make a statement on twitter confirming or denying the pairing

Look like everyone already delete this from their brains.
Appledash was canon 5 years ago and was totally confirmed in the finale
http://instagram.com/p/p2FhFBGbQ7/?modal=true
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>>34293601
nobody expected the kirin
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>>34293773
> VA instagram post
> canon
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>>34293794
same level of canon than a shitty twitter
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>>34293801
Writers have some level of credibility for their intentions but tweets doesn't change show canon. what's in the show, or what's in the scripts, is the show canon.
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>>34293806
+if they don't want to outright say something in the scripts to define the show canon, which would mean that writers (at least partially) agree on what's canon, writer opinions become part of their own headcanons since we can't know if more than that one writer actually thinks something should be canon.
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>>34293824
Lesbians aunts become canon after the tweet.
the media literally explode only for that twitter and never mention the episode at all.
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>>34293530
>And I mean all of it is caused by the fucking lines under their eyes that Haber didn't even ask
True Haber nor the script called for the bags. It made them look like shit. They should've just mde the other mane 5 their mother's ages pre-skip
>>34281866
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>>34290953
Growing old without kids.
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>>34294027
Who said she'd be without kids? I think that she would be a great mother.
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>>34293055
STD doesn't exist. The Orville is the real spiritual Star Trek spinoff.
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>>34293181
S9, closely followed by S8. All the other seasons are godlike in comparison.
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>>34285714
He stockholmed himself out of pure desperation
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>>34293055
Now name examples of that within the same generation. Because we already don't consider other MLP gens canon. It's a moot point here. This analogy doesn't apply.
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>>34292888
Like what the fuck is a “friendship school” supposed to accomplish? It was absolutely not needed. “I’m having trouble making friendsss” does not need to cost you an education. They live in a world where colorful ponies aren’t drowning in politics and violence so the only species that it could actually help would be dragons or gryphons and even then it’s just pushing pony culture onto other creatures when no one asked for it. It’s such a cringy concept. Ponies were already living peacefully together and few were ever mean or uncaring
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>>34292888
We'd still have shitty episodes, but we'd have a mix.

MLP has such a vast universe and fanfiction going for it, that it should have been obvious to leave everything ambiguous. The fandom wouldn't be having half the shit fit if they didn't release that fucking time skip with no though or creativity put into it.
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>>34294401
She's old. Anon. Even pinkie just barely made the cut off.

Also food for thought, pinkie has a filly and was older then her and the other mane 6's parents.

Literally all 6 of the mane 6 parents were younger and the mane 6, and other brothers and sisters were teens.
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>>34293181
seasons 8 and 9 are by far the worst seasons, then 6 then 3
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>>34293332
We're not likely to get a Twitter post until after the episode airs properly, are we?
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>>34293327
I think one of the silliest things about 'revealing' Rainbow Dash as gay in the very last episode is that it makes her interactions with Zephyr Breeze completely nonsensical. Zephyr was chasing after Dash for years and years, so why didn't she at any point shut him down by telling him she's gay?
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>>34271377
I don't get them either man. I swear the current comics industry is held up by the supreme success of their films.
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>>34294542
I'd point to the simpsons which not only had gone down in quality but because it's supposed to take place in a constant modern time it has to keep changing the backstory of the characters like having homer and marge graduate in the 90's
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>>34293218
Anon, this is MLP discussion board, not video editing forum.
>>34293429
Also watch The Perfect Pear, Sounds of Silence and Frienemies. And maybe The Point of No Return and Sparkle's Seven.
And if you are into history, lore and epic adventures, watch S7 Campfire Tales, Daring Done?, A Health of Information, then Uncommon Bond and S7 Finale.
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>>34293218
How about you fuck off
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>>34293841
They are a cute pair of ponies.
If Scoots had three aunts they would be cute trio of ponies.
And so on.
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>>34294601
>DWK:
>Is it my voice? Do I have a gay voice?
>Is it my hair? Do I have a gay hair?
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>>34294601
nah. she could have just not realized her preference until later.
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>>34284901
>but i've watched the finale like 50 times now
I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy

> and by doing that i've managed to get rid of a lot of the sadness
So while we've been trying to forget you just decided to desensitize yourself to it.

Interesting strategy.
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>>34294542
Scrubs Season 9.
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>>34286388
>I don't trust the Japanese
Think of it this way could they really do a worse job than our writers? The answer is no, it's fucking solid. Just read it, you faggot.
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>>34293181
from worst to "best"
>Season 9 because it was not only terribly written, but lacked any sort of closure for most of the episodes and had the abysmal animation quality.
>Season 8 because instead of Pillars stories we got the school and dumbed-down main characters like in NCC or The End in Friend.
>Season 3 because of Twilicorn and the Crystal Empire/Crystal ponies/heart/Cadance/Sombra shit that never got properly explained.
>Season 6 because while it had Poochie as the new main character and some terrible episodes it also had some good in the first half and I didn't expect anything special from it anyway.
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>>34286736
I liked them. ;_;
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my boss that laid me off was actually a pretty cool guy, I knew he was just doing his job, so no hard feelings or anything.

he gave me the heads up a few weeks prior so I could get another job lined up, and in the morning meetings, he would ask everyone how their work was going and what needed to be handled how.

all I could say was that it was pretty hard to be motivated to do anything beyond the bare minimum, 'cause for me, it ultimately didn't matter other than supporting and helping my coworkers.

I could see the same for MLP season 9. most were probably like "fuck it. there isn't going to be a season 10 or beyond to work for, the quality ultimately doesn't matter as far as the characters and story go. as long as it looks like MLP when you glance at it, and it sounds like MLP when you overhear it, let's just slap some shit together. don't bother keeping up with the lore, save time and hit the bar early."
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>>34295052
>desensitize
More like he decided to become a beaten wife.
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>>34295072
They would make a good family, if they accepted friendship like they almost did in Frienemies.
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>>34295078
>I could see the same for MLP season 9. most were probably like "fuck it. there isn't going to be a season 10 or beyond to work for, the quality ultimately doesn't matter as far as the characters and story go. as long as it looks like MLP when you glance at it, and it sounds like MLP when you overhear it, let's just slap some shit together. don't bother keeping up with the lore, save time and hit the bar early."
There's this thing called "reputation". In the modern world of COINTELPRO, social media campaigns, omnipresent agendas and various #LookAtHowRetardedIAm it has almost become an atavism but if you fuck up really, really badly it's still going to haunt you. Maybe they'll get out scot-free in this case.
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So this is how it ends, huh?
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>>34295160
Yes, huh.
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>>34295059
>Season 9
Coincidence? I think not.
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Finally got around watching the episode 24. I think my only issue with it is Discord=Grogar twist. And also Discord's speech after. Everything else was pretty epic.
If anyone gets to "fixing" this episode (I'll try to help) I think the solution with minimal expenses would be that:
>Villain3 depowers Grogar and let him lay in a cave
>Discord uses his Discord Sense when that happens
>Goes to check
>"Oh hi, thanks for the extra magic Mr. Discord! Now GTFO"
>Change the dialogue in the throneroom
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>>34285207
Cozy has no open mouth and she must scream.
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>>34285207

I forgot what happened in the episode where Twilight got petrified by a cockatrice. Did she stay conscious while she was stoned?
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>>34295093
Someone in another thread came up with a good idea for a believable redemption arc for them: a double twist where Grogar was Discord the whole time, then later on fucking about with Grogar's bell causes the REAL Grogar to be summoned back from his banishment, forcing the trio and the ponies to work together to defeat him.
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>>34294601
Silly me for shipping this since Season 1.

Funny how the 2nd time Zephyr Breeze was shown, it was Ashleigh's idea.
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Is it safe on mulp yet? Or is it all spoilers still
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>>34295632
safe
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>>34295616
>shipping this since Season 1

Brother!

I'm actually writing a Soarindash fic right now because I want to create at least something before the very end.
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>>34295616
Mah nigga
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>>34295616
Shipping is cancer
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>>34295632
it wont be safe until the ep airs bro
and even then don't post in the sticky until youve watched it
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>>34295656
I checked fimfic for for first time in years. It seems a lot of dead fics updated this year. Nostalgia is hitting everyone hard
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I'm hoping Short Skirts & Explosions gets around to updating Austraeoh again.
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So where's the fucking clip show leak so we can be finally completely done with Haber's humiliation? Please, just end it already. Please.
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>>34295747
I just read through the scripts and holy fucking shit Rainbow Dash's one is based entirely on the ending of Applejack's Day Off. Haber must really, really fucking hate Rainbow Dash.
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>>34196514
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>>34295676
Thank you brothers. Even if it died, I hope its kept alive through pics and fics. I doubt the Wonderbolts will be alive in G5 or they will be in different forms, I'm sure.

>>34295691
Sometimes it can be, yeah.
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>>34295895
BigHckintosh please save us from this hell
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>>34295895
You mean the part with her at the spa?
Nani the fuck????
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>>34295959
Yep. This is an exact quote of something Dash says to Twilight:

>What do you say we do hooficures and get pampered together?

It's a travesty. I didn't think it was possible to butcher Rainbow Dash more than AJ'sDO did but here we are.
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>>34295986
>I didn't think it was possible
It is possible even now.
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Take that, Appledash fags, team Twidash wins.
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>>34295895
>>34295986
What was the problem with Dash's parts though?
That's not even a screencap from AJDO, that's from Ponyville Confidential.
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[repost - forgot pic]

is dash just that conflicted and complex of a character? or did the writers just really fuck up with her?

afraid of a hooficure - "doesn't like ponies touching her hooves" (could be faking in front of her friends [actually likes pampered and delux spa treatments in private in later seasons/episodes])

Pinkie says she hates washing -- I really would have liked to have seen that explored more.

but then you have bullshit products like pic related, it better reek of fermented mare sweat and summer breeze.
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>>34296045
In virtually every single episode where Dash goes into the spa before AJ'sDO she doesn't take it seriously and turns her nose up at Rarity's insistence on being 'pampered' every time it happens. Then suddenly out of absolutely, literally nowhere Rainbow Dash is shown to actually love, love, love getting pampered at the spa for the sake of a single throwaway gag that wasn't even funny. In fact it was such a throwaway gag that I can't even remember Dash being shown to love the spa in any episodes afterwards.

And the screencap from Ponyville Confidential is to highlight the hypocrisy of having Rainbow Dash suggest going to get hooficures as the only time she's ever previously shown getting anywhere near a hooficure at the spa it turns out she's got a genuine phobia of other ponies touching her hooves. I thought that would be obvious.
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>>34296114
Makes sense, too be fair I've purged most of my memories of S6 from my brain.
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>>34296109
The writers just fucked up. Her dislike of/apathy towards the spa is incredibly consistent throughout the show with no signs that she enjoys it beyond the fact that she's getting to hang out with her friends while she's there - and on that point I don't think we ever see Rainbow Dash go to the spa entirely of her own volition before Applejack's Day Off. She's always there with other members of the main six and it's generally for some reason beyond merely relaxing and getting pampered.

Dash's "love" of the spa, on the other hand, is the exact opposite. It's not hinted at in the slightest before exploding in full pink-and-frilly force at the end of Applejack's Day Off. It also raises the question of how the rest of the main six had no idea at all, because while Rainbow Dash may keep it a secret from them, she's also apparently perfectly fine with strolling into the spa's lobby and loudly declaring her love of getting pampered to anyone that happens to be in there. At the very least Rarity would have found out through the grapevine as she's shown to both visit the spa regularly and engage in gossip.

Secretly enjoying spa treatments and being too embarrassed about it to tell anyone doesn't sound too out of character for Rainbow Dash -especially given how she reacted to discovering that she actually enjoyed reading Daring Do - but the show takes it too far and handles it beyond awfully. I can see her enjoying massages, relaxing in the springs, etc. but not going full-blown Rarity as she was shown to do.
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>>34196514
The main problems are with the episodes before the time skip right?

spoilers

Let's break things down simple and short -

grogar is discord - this is probably the big thing here.

Grogars bell - can give more magic and transform creatures, and take discords power away.
Well i'm sure there could be more detail and explanation or something.

Tirek, chrysalis, and Cozy Glow - Could've been handled differently. (mlp wants villain family?)

The pillars - weren't really good for much, but at least it showed them getting getting nerfed?

The Windigos - ok, why? I guess at least the were brought up, but did they need to be?

The pony races are divided - well ok for me

The power of friendship was inside the whole time - Man this and discord make how many seasons the EXACT same?

Discord turns villains to stone - welp, there goes mlp plans to turn villains into a loving family


Now for the time skip.


Twilight and spike are so big - Man i'll just wait for the fanfics of giant twilight and buff spike going to bed together, if you know what i mean. (family friendly show)

rarity and applejack have no pony? - To be fair they care about their work, apples/clothes
Let's also mention rainbow dash is alone and busy doing wonderbolts.

fluttershy and discord are still a thing - is this a problem? i say it might be only cause discord has chaos magic and lives thousands of years, but aside from those 2 things, i don't see much problem.

Pinkie pie has a kid - ok, i don't see a problem

Twilight has a unicorn student - not a problem for me

Other stuff - do i need to mention other stuff? which other stuff?
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>>34296179

This. We need to learn from >>34293014 and realize that the show canon is bad due to bad writers. The last few seasons were on life support as they wrote episodes like non-compete clause just because they had a quota to fill. The only issue is that you either have a horrible baseline for discussion (show canon), or no baseline/conflicting ideas of what the baseline canon should be.
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By the way, now we truly know that Rockhoof's sudden maturity wasn't a metaphor - he literally got himself infused with magic.
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>>34278849
>literally fictional evidence

>>34279228
Talk is cheap. And what about the EU and fan works?

>>34279229
Is this sarcasm, or are there people who think that the show was ever framed as a book? Is this the latest Mandela effect?

>>34279750
Isn't the 3rd reincarnation (G4) the one that's ending?

>>34280678
>those who think they are older
Age is just a social construct.

>>34280841
Anyone *can* be redeemed. He just doesn't want to be.

>>34281739
>Dash could have kids in Cloudsdale
And just happened to stop at AJ's farm on the way to Canterlot? And refused to leave til AJ's chores were done?

>>34282110
>season_9_episode_25
Did somebody get the number mixed up?

>>34282113 >>34282131
See >>34276480, >>34281662, >>34282110, and/or >>34284921. And if you don't like that, you could always ship him with Twilight.

>>34282294 >>34285773
See >>34278735.

>>34282304
"Shaggy Dog Story"/"Shoot the Shaggy Dog"?

>>34282376
Entropy applies everywhere.

>>34282407
Stealing the magic from who?

>>34282688
Subs?

>>34283230
>they gave a frilly dress to Bonbon and a moustache to Lyre
When was that, again?

>>34283813
>The most hilarious fucking part to me is that they're asking for their waifu to be in their 50s childless and alone.
Show literally one person even pretending to want that.

>>34283935
The worse a place Equestria is, the more your waifu needs you.

>>34284079
>dwk-style
...Not Witchcraft-style, with actual female voices?

>>34284597
>therefore fan porn art is canon

>>34285209
This is advanced denial.

>>34286072
Did you miss the S5 finale, where she ranted about about how "ponies should be equal" and "a cutie mark took my friend away"?

>>34286786
I dunno; how did Celestia run things for a thousand years?

>>34286903
No plans to arrange a once-a-month meeting with your college friends?

>>34286996
Not motherhood.
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>>34288357
Good goy. Don't reproduce. Your )))genes((( are cheap and easily replaceable.
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Also seeing Bon Bon in a crowd down there in ep 25 we can safely say that Celestia's Secret Agency is no more.
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>>34296332
>/pol/
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>>34296037
What's happening here?
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>>34295072
I can see it
>Gruff but responsible Dad Tirek who only wants the best for Golly but constantly has to put up with her and Chrysalis's bullshit
>Delinquent Mom Chrysalis who has a lot of anger issues and is always getting Golly in trouble by teaching her about all the "bad" stuff that Tirek won't
>Mischievous Child Cozy who is always getting into trouble and acts like she can't stand her parents but deep down really cares about them
>Weird Uncle Sombra who occasionally comes back to life and tries to take over the world, only to die again almost instantly
Why couldn't this happen? The setup was perfect.
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>>34296537
Because it would involve the writer's giving a satisfying ending when they wanted to leave the fandom with a big middle finger for calling them out on not even watching the show they were writing on...
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>>34196514

I came up with an extremely autistic idea.

Hasbro is a company, probably in the stock market, if enough anons bought shares, a group could be made that represented an important sector of investors that together would have a voice and vote in business decisions. Enough influence to be able to exercise some power over the decisions of the creative team of the mlp series.

If enough anons disbursed from their pockets to buy shares of hasbro the board would have executive power over the series. I know that these types of economic movements are much more complex than what I say here, but for some reason i say that is an autistic idea.
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Can anybody please explain this scene. The reasoning behind it really confuses me. Did the Mane 6 choose to surrender and be executed alongside Spike instead of having to witness his suffering? Why would they choose to die as a team and become friendship martyrs, dooming Equestria in the process, instead of keeping up the fight until the end? If it was not for the unicorn shield ex machina, the Mane 6 would have been defeated and killed in the most anticlimactic and stupid way possible. They had absolutely no way to know that help was about to arrive, so they must have made their decision thinking that it would be the end for them, so why choose this pointless sacrifice?
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>>34296699
Now that you mentioned I don't get it either. Twi could easily teleported them again.
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>>34292376
Updated it for ya fàm
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>>34296699
May I add that in the script, they are bound by magical chains, and Twilight's and Rarity's horns are blocked. Otherwise, I would also be questioning the writers for why Twilight didn't just teleport them out of there, which she had done just a few seconds before.
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>>34292376
Course the image didn't attach
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>>34296690
Anon.

Just some extremely quick number crunching here. Hasbro's market cap, which represents their total market equity value, is nearly $15 Billion. Yes, that's a B. Looking at their financials, they have about 126,200,000 common shares outstanding. That's what's out on the market available for trading. Currently each share is trading at a price of $117.49. Multiplying the two gives us our market cap.

Think about this. 126.2 MILLION shares. Each one worth over a hundred dollars.

Even if all of us pooled together our measly resources together, we wouldn't even represent a single percentage point in shareholder ownership. We mean nothing.
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>>34296690
>>34296721
Just to further drive home the point, if we somehow raised $1 million (which sounds like a lot, right?), it wouldn't even be 1% of 1%.

To gain ownership of 1% of Hasbro, you need 1,262,000 shares. That equates to about $148,272,380at it's current trading price.

To get 1% of 1% of Hasbro ownership (0.01), you need 126,000 shares, which equates to about $14,803,740.

With only $1 million, we could only gain a proportionate equity ownership of about 8,511 shares. We're not influencing Hasbro through the market any time soon, anon.
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>>34296749
We need to crash Hasbro's stocks.
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>>34296771
The only way to do that is by causing investor panic, either through bad news of the company's future to survive (out of criminality, extremely bad management decisions, or what have you), or casting doubt over their long term sustainability.

A couple of autists on the 4chan /mlp/ imageboard whining about their little girl magical horse show can and never will achieve that. Now somebody like Big Hackintosh, on the other hand, if he could get himself some juicy internal documents...well...
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>>34296715
Was this nothing more than laziness and time crunch from DHX or was it Hasbro censors? Part 1 was pretty violent and the scene just before it has Chrysalis threatening to pull of Spike's wings..
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>>34296826
Still the Mane 6 surrender before being bound, so while that explains why Twilight didn't teleport, it still leaves the question open as to why they decided to go down with Spike instead of keeping up the fight.
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I wouldn't mind spike having his wings ripped off in the finale, then in the epilogue, he has mechanical wings
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>>34296699
can anybody explain the finale it all? it was like some kind of terrible terrible fanfiction that had nothing to do with mlp fim or friendship.
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>>34296902
I liked most of the finale, and not really epilogue
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>>34296719
KEK
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Do we have a date on the anniversary stream yet?

I REALLY need to take time off work for this, thank you.
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>>34297001
It should start on October 10th/11th and will last for four or five days of constant pony.
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>>34297001
Ask in mlpanni this saturday. Last Saturday iirc they were thinking of going from the Saturday before to the weekend after.
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>>34296715
>>34296826
>they are bound by magical chains, and Twilight's and Rarity's horns are blocked
Fuck this, they even ruined a chance for some decent >rape porn.
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>>34296715
>>34296826
Season 9 is beyond pathetic
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>>34296809

So ... we need someone to get secret documents that compromise hasbro, which causes their value to fall in the stock market and collect an absurd amount among all the anons to buy a significant fraction of the shares.

And then, and only then, we will save the end of the series.
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>>34296902
I liked most of the finale except for this terribly handled scene.
My main problems is the epilogue in which Twilight has become a Celestia recolor, Spike has built more muscle than Mr. Clean, and the rest of the Mane 6 have become old decrepit mares, as it features heavy shipping, including confirmation of Cheesepie and Fluttercord, and in which Appledash is implied. Also, I don't like the fact that most of the Mane 6 basically marry their jobs and they don't have much time for each other or to start a family. Even Daniel Ingram was lackluster in the epilogue, with the final song in the show being a rip-off of "Embrace the Magic" from "Legend of Everfree" with different lyrics and a different chorus.
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>>34296902
The explanation is simple. They fell in love with the idea of the Grogar twist which set the three villains up to be the final bosses of the show instead. Because they drive the violence, conflict, and action they couldn't be redeemed without it feeling forced. It's just a shit twist and they ended up writing themselves into a corner.
>>34297201
Jim Miller fucked up the timeline by approving the hideous older mane 6 designs. The ponies were never supposed to look like they're 50 years old in the original script. They were supposed to be old enough to change the status quo but still allow you to have hope for the future of their lives. All of the stuff you said about the mane 6 marrying their jobs and not starting families becomes completely moot if the ponies were around 30 years old instead. You could easily suspend your disbelief and believe the ponies have off screen boyfriends/fiance/husbands and just haven't had kids yet.
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>>34296719
ACCURATE
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>>34296719
>implying Season 2 or 3 were good
>implying they were better than 4, 5, and 7
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>>34296699
Same reason Discord brought together the 4 villains. Reviving one, and releasing two from Tartarus. Teleporting Sombra into the Crystal empire, getting the Tree of Harmony destroyed, hooking the other three up with a powerful artifact weapon, getting his powers drained and had the mane 6 lost like they should've, would've been responsible for the total destruction of Equestia only to not be punished remotely.

Because it's terrible fucking writing, anon.
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>>34297410
Still had letters to Celestia, morals, tame memefaces besides Lesson Zero, plots that made sense, writers that knew the ponies, natural cute moments, Tree Library and no princess Twilight.


Not implying shit.
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>>34297478
I never thought about how much Discord fucked both sides over so hard. He's literally the reason Cozy, Tirek and Chryssi are petrified now...
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>>34297878
PLAYED US LIKE A DAMN FIDDLE
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>>34287161
>Twilight and Rariry helps AJ with her daily idiotic chores.
On one occasion. Because of a specific problem that was resolved at the end of the episode. And they didn't call them "the" chores, let alone pet her on the head afterwards.

>>34288173
Fast & Furious?

>>34289068
Because symmetry/closing the circle/something. Ask someone who liked it. For all I know, >>34258680 is right.

>>34289886
*https://desuarchive.org/mlp/chunk/34196514/500/21/#34264305

>>34290790
You do realize that the writers control what happens in the show, right?

>>34291269
Am I the only one who remembers that this board wasn't created til 2012?

>>34291531
>irredeemable
*dismissed as not worth trying to redeem

>>34291705 >>34291679
(see >>34265143)

>>34293014
>The trick is in realizing canon doesnt mean shit beyond a baseline for discussions wit other people.
It's also a baseline for fan works. No matter how bad certain parts of canon are, fan creators, even the best ones, will inevitably use it as a starting point. Creators will familiarize themselves with it because they know it's the context their works will be seen in; and consumers will familiarize themselves with it because they know it's the context fan works are created in. We can't just erase common knowledge by collective willpower.

Since 2012, when discussing the character of Princess Celestia, it's been necessary to at some point address her handling of Chrysalis. From now on, it's also going to be necessary to address her petrifying the villain trio. You could speculate about what Faust originally intended for her; but then you're not talking about the fictional character portrayed in a particular 9-season cartoon series, but about a real person in the real world.

(Or what >>34296206 says.)

>>34293055
It's not nearly detached enough for that, though. A better comparison would be to ask them if season 3 is canon.

>>34293126 >>34293147
What we "consider" doesn't determine reality; not even social reality.
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>>34294692
Counterpoint: The Simpsons is a pure comedy. It was never supposed to have lore, worldbuilding or basic continuity between seasons. Do people even make narrative-based fan works of it?

>>34296690
The best you can do is find and incentivize works that share the good qualities of the good parts of MLP. I suggest Them's Fightin' Herds and DC Super Hero Girls to start with (if you're not already supporting them).
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Everyone hates discord after the finale so what do you guys think of that scene?
Do they really live together, why or why not?
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>>34292888
>>celestia and luna are and still act like regal rulers instead of being a walking joke
Are we talking about the same movie?
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>>34298082
One can only speculate.
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>>34298107
>Human
>Races
>Shit
>Thot mentality
>Stupid reasoning
>Headcanon
9th circle of hell in that image you got there anon
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>>34298107
>Nigger RD
Every. Fucking. Time.
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>>34298127
At least that fits since she's dumb and athletic
The true garbage is when they niggerize Rarity or Twilight
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>>34298127
What's wrong anon? Afraid of a little chocolate?
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>>34298127
>>34298164
She looks more like a spic, if anything.
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>>34292888
>The show should have stopped after s03e12
ftfy
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>>34298072
Their certainly is world building/character development.
Lisa became a vegetarian and has continued being one indefinitely.
She always went to being the voice of reason to a libtard SJW who's always right.
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>>34298141
My trigger is when they turn Flutters into a Muslim.
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>>34276418
>Discord's douchebaggery finally backfired on him
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>>34276418
I love how they continued developing the 3 villains and redeemed them in an organic way.

I also love how they left the ending ambiguous. No timeskip bullshit. We're free to make our own ending on their adventures, where they'll end up, who they'll marry, which ones will have kids, etc etc etc
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>>34276436
woosh
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>>34297410
Yes in fact, they were.
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>>34298393
God twifags are pathetic.
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>>34298381
AHHHHHHHHHH
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>>34296719
based
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>>34298397
They are, but not for the reasons you might think.
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>>34298416
>stop loving your waifu because she has two extra body parts and she moved to a different building
They were always more pathetic than spikefags.
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>>34298419
I dunno anon, spikefags were undoubtedly the worst a couple of years ago
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https://derpibooru.org/2142020
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>>34298393
>"(thing I don't like) is in it so it's insta-bad"
Imagine having such a high degree of autism that you are incapable of thinking objectively
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>>34298381
OOF
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>>34298381
don't you like how they subverted expectations though?
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>>34298346
this
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>>34282131
Gabby
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>>34298082
They don't. Because it was never said by the characters, or implied by them. There was only situational implications which mean nothing when compared to actual character dialog. They never refer to themselves as more than friends, special somepony, bf/gf, etc. They've only ever referred to each other friends throughout the ENTIRE show. They also never even mention the sanctuary or her cottage. If it was really gone she definitely would have said something about. Situational implications can be dismissed. Mistakes, bad writing, no continuity,
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>>34296330
>>34298062

comments everyone except for my big long giant post.
I don't have tears in my eyes....
>>34296188
maybe people weren't ready for the spoilers?
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>>34296719
>rating season 4 lower than season 3, 5, 6, 7, 8 or 9
>rating season 7 lower than season 3, 5, 6, 8 or 9
Seethe more
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>>34296690
>>34296721
>>34296749
>>34296809
guys... we're going about this all wrong.

what we need to do is pool our money together and combined with a kickstarter or gofundme or whatever, just flat out buy MLP from hasbro.

Then we can contract DHX to produce replacement episodes, and get Pixar to do the CG shorts and movie.

Cancel G5, and just make spinoff serieses from background ponies, Starlight's alternate timelines, and OCs.
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If you think about it, no villain ever was able to defeat Friendship. Until the very end.

The writers did something that no villain could do before. They annihilated Friendship when they got the ponies to celebrate the execution of a child that no one tried to help or even understand. They made the power of ruling a country more important than her friends for Twilight. All the villains tried to take over Equestria, but at the end of the day, the only people who ever managed to destroy the Magic of Friendship were the writers.
Josh Haber, Nicole Dubuc, and Mike Vogel were the ultimate villains. And they won.
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>>34298904
>If you think about it, no villain ever was able to defeat Friendship. Until the very end.
it was because THEY WORKED TOGETHER!
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>>34298911
even Discord had the right idea in the very beginning, season 2 episodes 1 and 2. he separated the ponies and "attacked them" individually to break them first.
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>>34298911

What gets me is that they really set the villains up for reformation where they slowly learn the value of teamwork and through that friendship, but nope, was just Discord 'avin a giggle.

This was the least cathartic end to a saga ever. Fuck whoever thought up this garbage.
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>>34298101
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>>34298916
No. The writer had the little girl mentality. He's a chaos demon so they made him deal with them in some way they thought was cool. It was actually lazy and boring as if it were a little babies nightmare.
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>>34298425
Autism_rage,avi
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>>34284265
trixie can learn magic,obviously
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>>34298942
>villains are shown to very, very nearly learn the value of friendship all by themselves in Frenemies and go from hating each other to becoming genuine we're-not-friends-we-swear
>"Together forever, I can't think of anything they'd hate more!"

I'm starting to think that the writers fucked it up on purpose. There's no way they can be that oblivious of what's happening in their own goddamn writing.
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what the hell happened?
I want my S9 megasunbooty
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>>34299243
Plot progression is kill
We now have meme faces instead
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>>34298904
>Josh Haber, Nicole Dubuc, and Mike Vogel were the ultimate villains
You only noticed this now?
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>>34298942
It sucks because they had such a great setup too.

Oh boy! They brought back 4 great villains and Grogar for the finale season? This is gonna be amazing! I can't wait to see these 4 interact with and learn from each othe-
>Sombra immediately dies again in the premiere
Oh. Well that's a bummer but at least the other three have neat chemistry. And Grogar is shaping up to be a threatening final boss so that's-
>Turns out Grogar wasn't even real, it was just Discord being a shitter again
Well that sucks, but at least the other three will surely have a satisfying ending after all the build up and growth they had this season. Right?
>After being depowered they get stoned by the guy who manipulated them in the first place

How do you screw up this badly? They had everything in place for a great send off, and they somehow managed to make every wrong decision.
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I didn't had expectations and still got disappointed overall. I don't know what to feel. The show and ponies meant a lot to me.

I knew it will be weird that it's all ending, but ending it like this made the hole a little bit worse.
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>>34299597
is there any particular context for your pic? it almost looks like a screenshot from the show until you start looking at the details closer.

worth a thousand words... her trailer's smashed up, her cape ripped. she's sad as she stares into a broken image of herself. ...Trixie, what happened?
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>>34299628
Not that I know of. Reverse image search doesn't bring up much beside YouTube tributes to Trixie.

And I agree, I am at least glad good old Trixie got it better in the end. I can relate to her, even if the ride was over for me for a while, still it was a sort of home.
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>>34296037

Where does that script come from?
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>>34299597
>>34299628
>>34299647
https://www.deviantart.com/theparagon/art/In-Ruins-270144075
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>>34299715
Deviantart got all black and stuff. This is uncanny.
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>>34296037
>>34299709
I'd like to know this too. I have scripts and have been trying to follow along with some of the episodes, but have noticed a lot of changes and dialog that was cut (probably for time and cost of animation, mostly) or re-arranged.

it would have been cool if all the storyboards and raw dialog were leaked too, and someone re-cut all the episodes to include the deleted scenes with them.

that archive was missing the rainbow road-trip script and the movie script. were those available anywhere?
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One thing I noticed is the insane production time for a single episode.
For example, The Last Problem will regularly air on October 12, 2019, but the premise was written April 12, 2018.
That's one and a half years total compared to the 6 months it takes for a Simpson episode or 1 week for a South Park one.
Now I imagine this doesn't make the production process easier and it especially hindered anyone involved to react to fan feedback even if they wanted to because it came with such a delay.
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>>34299709
>>34299761
It's from CS4.
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>tfw stopped watching after S4
Could I get a quick rundown on what happened in the last episode? I can't make sense of it from this thread
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>>34299772
ok, so we haven't seen it yet, then. right?
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>>34299761
That those two were missing is quite interesting because they were the only ones that were animated in Toon Boom Harmony instead of Adobe Flash. My best guess would be that the leak occured from the FIM team at DHX, so they wouldn't have had access to those scripts.
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>>34299780
Chrysalis and Tirek, along with another big bad, very nearly learn the true value of friendship, but everything is ripped out from under them because Discord manipulated them into being (more) evil (with his help), then condemned them for being evil, convinced ponies to condemn them for being evil, and punished them for being evil. They don't get redeemed when it literally makes no sense to do as they did unless ponies don't actually believe in friendship for anything more that it's usefulness.
Epilogue is a bunch of gay shit to pander to gays and those who for some reason demand to know what happens after the story ends. Equestria gets the 'Social decay' bad end but don't know it yet.
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>>34299784
We haven't. I would have expected them to air in the lead up to the finale, but they weren't mentioned in Discovery Family's press release about the programming around it, which even includes a behind the scenes look at the development of FIM featuring Lauren Faust.
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>>34299761
>>34299794
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>>34299828
So the script was locked less than 2 months before the release of the movie?
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>>34299835
It's either the fucked up american date notation and should really mean 17.8.2015, or something went very wrong in production.
I'm sure some anons already compared the script with the finished movie to spot any differences, that would be helpful now.
Interestingly this script has the final opening and not the outtake one, compared to some episode scripts we got.
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>>34299851
from what I understand, this went through several versions and re-writes anyway. like what they started out with was totally different.

and somewhere along there Tempest was related to Celestia at some point.

but I never take the time to verify anything, so I could be totally wrong.
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>>34299861
>and somewhere along there Tempest was related to Celestia at some point.
I thought Storm King and Tempest were one male alicorn related to Luna and Celestia before being split into the two aforementioned creatures.
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>>34299835
This movie script that was leaked in 2017 was the final shooting script. It includes all changes that were made in the editing process, and its text is completely identical to the released version of the movie.
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The ending was basically about a group of characters leaving nothing behind of themselves and the writer betraying their established personalities for a mishmash of political wish fulfilment and a bad attempt at constituting wrapping up the narrative bag with open endlessness.

When the new characters were waved off it was not a bittersweet moment of passing on the calling by the old cast but the writers making sure to bury the old cast as quickly as possible.

I want to claim that all of the main six characters are confirmed to be nothing more than their elements, the heroes, the important ones and that mundane tasks shown in the show were simply there to excuse them doing fantastic things. All that character growth was basically ignored in the ending to teach their replacement the value of friendship and to make the point that the mane six characters are dead ends, symbolized by not only the setting sun but by progressing quickly to nighttime. We also have more obvious facts of their dead-end status.

They are all childless. Nothing is confirmed about the occasional foals' relationships We see relationships being strongly hinted at but some of them are either ships to make the SJW-crowd happy, or even the writer themselves, most relationships are shown without any resulting new generation.

Somehow, the fact that AJ, in her own ending scene, is not seen surrounded by her own foals is more insulting than Rarity hinted as being a spinster who worked herself passed the wall and kept going. Rarity missed her chance to find her special one and all she has left are material luxuries and social gatherings to kill boredom till she dies, but that pales in comparison to how deeply AJ betrayed herself.

At least one of the most depressing fancanons confirmed: Twilight will outlive her friends.

Haven't seen this show for years but I decided to view the last episodes and I wish I never did.
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>>34300596
>They are all childless.
keep telling yourself that
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>>34300596
Great post anon but it essentially falls on deaf ears since the Haber never intended you to believe their wombs were dried up. It's just the animators and character designers being plain retarded. Making them look over 50 years old makes everything you said 100% true, but if they were depicted as an ambiguous range from 30-40 we could assume Pinkie was the first to have a kid and they all have off-screen fiances.
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So what do you fucking losers plan to do now that your boring, unoriginal, slop is being finished?

Kill yourself?
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>>34298346 >>34298536
Character development isn't world building. Main characters in shows like The Simpsons don't "develop" in the sense that characters in shows with continuity and arcs do. Their characters can change and evolve, but almost entirely out-of-universe rather than in.

>Don't worry, Bart. It seems like every week something odd happens to the Simpsons. My advice is to ride it out, make the occasional smart-alec quip, and by next week we'll be back to where we started from, ready for another wacky adventure.

>>34298643
I don't understand the point of your post, or who it's directed to. It looks like you're asking specific questions of OP? I'm not sure they're even still there.

>>34298963
Congratulations. You're so edgy and mature that you're not scared by a little girls' cartoon.

>>34293530 >>34297333 >>34300801
I'm unsure. Li'l Cheese being "CMC-sized" implies a pretty big head start. Appledash and Discoshy would seem to rule out offspring for those three ponies. The Cake twins are described as "all grown up". There's no mention of wedding or engagement rings for Rarity or Twilight. And even just a "shock of gray" implies that she's pretty old to be just starting a family.
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>>34300927
I'm going to start acting like a winner, and go around to different boards insulting people for caring about those boards' topics.
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>>34300927
Whatever it is I hope it’s not jumping into boards I don’t like to post really weak bait
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>>34300927
Read my 900+ fanfiction backlog
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>>34301224
Quick rundown on where and how to find "good" fanfiction?
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>>34301338
Don’t look at the popular ones
Example:
>My Little Dashie
>Cupcakes
>Rainbow Factory
Straight into the trash. Go for slice of life if you want keep the feel of the show, or ones that create backstories for BG ponies are always fun.
Another good idea is look for alternate endings ones, there’s tons for MMC for example.
Then once you get bored you can probably just delve into a verse that you like. Personally never had an issue myself with the Fallout Equestria universe even though it doesn’t fit MLP, some of the side stories are decent.
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>>34301338
I’ll also give you a link to a good one to start
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/20685/sunny-skies-all-day-long
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>>34301338
I'm not >>34301224, but that sounds like a question for >>34261757.
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>>34301459
My Little Dashie was still pretty good, but yea Cupcakes and Rainbow Factor are overrated and poorly written.
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>>34301498
>https://www.fimfiction.net/story/385770/equestria-485000

I ran into this fantastic piece of work a few months ago and it saddens me that it only has like 700 views, so I'm shamelessly whoring this whenever I can.

One of the best ponyfics I've read in a long time.

Fuck a 20 year timeskip. Skip 485000 years and have Twilight be on a desperate search for a cure for a disease threatening to wipe out the pony race by going back to Equestria, the forbidden home planet.
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>>34300801
Ehh. 30-40s Rarity doesn't strike me as the type to not dye that grey and make sure her hair is fuck perfect.
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>>34300801
I agree. I have no idea what Jim and his crew were thinking with the designs they made. If they hadn't aged like milk, I would have just assumed that they were still in time to form a family. But as it stands, I feel like they played the characters dirty,specially Applejack, who according to Hasbro's website had as her main aspiration to pass the farm down to her foals, and Rarity, who devoted her life completely to her job and never had time for herself.
It is also worth noting that the script only says that Spike is an adult dragon, so we can assume that making it this parody of himself we see in the epilogue was entirely DHX's idea.
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>>34300627
>They have children
Keep telling yourself that.

>>34300801
The only character I can claim I made a contradictive point about being a dead-end is Pinkie Pie. However, that sentence about how hard it is to find a sitter with a sense of humour is ambiguous and does not prove she is a parent.

Whether it is due to the failure of the designers or Haber pushing his own ideas on how the character's progressed it is rather interesting that any depiction of them having foals is outright missing or when a foal is shown the relationship is left to interpretations.

They thought, it seems, that having an open-ended interpretation of the future versions of the mane six, allowing all fans to have their own view of how their story ends validated, to a point, leaves the story with nothing concluded except some of the most depressing conclusions like the fact that Twilight will outlive her friends.
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G-guys the script links died anyone got another one to the finale?
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I am still mad
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>>34301835
I just binged like 10 chapters of this, and am having to force myself to go to bed.
After reading this stuff, I'm getting some weird nostalgic feelings for when I was a kid and I'd continuously check out scifi novels from the library. I'll look forward to reading the rest of this story. Thanks for sharing, anon.
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>>34302242
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>>34301338
This guy >>34285217 says there's a place on FIMFiction, but unfortunately no one in this thread is linking to it.
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How to survive without poners?
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>>34302546
Make more ponies.
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>>34302561
Ponies are over.
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>>34302567
Ponies are revo.
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>>34302571
Ponies aren't
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>>34302601
How do you know?
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https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/my-little-pony-end-supersized-primetime-finale-1238998

Looks like the behind the scenes thing will be about the recording of Haber's clip shows
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>>34302632
Do we have any announcement about when the clip shows are airing?
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>>34302662
Anon who read the scripts said they're set before the finale so probably somewhere in early October. Someone will leak/air them early anyway so it doesn't matter.
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>>34302632
There's something incredibly humiliating about this.
FiM was an internet phenomenon, it's ending, so it's time to talk about it and the people behind it. Never mind that all the current people behind it now hate the characters, the fandom, and everything related to the show. Never mind that the show hasn't been a phenomenon for years anymore because it's been bleeding since people who couldn't care less about it started assassinating it. Never mind that for the last years it wasn't even "My Little Pony" anymore, it was only "My Little OC." Never mind that a finale about indifference, revenge and a princess exchanging her friends for the ultimate power of ruling a country is the absolute fucking opposite to a series that started with compassion, forgiveness, and a pony realizing that nothing in Equestria is more important than Friendship.

I hate the finale with all my soul, but the very idea of seeing the pieces of shit who destroyed this show will get their five minutes of fame to pretend that they were related to the success of the show is even more outrageous. I didn't think about this, I can't believe we still have to endure at least another month of hypocrisy before these fucking leeches will finally let it go.
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>>34274171
>still no sunset shitter
lmoa
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>>34298942
I reckon they did it because "subverting expectations" was the cool thing.
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>>34302383
I searched for "fix" within groups on FIMFiction, and I found the Fix Season 8 Group:
https://www.fimfiction.net/group/214033/folder/65699/main
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>>34298942
For a second, I thought the punishment would be banishment to the moon. At least in that case, we could go wild with ideas about what shenanigans they'd be doing up there
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>>34302383
What are you looking for? Fixfics or accusation ones? Accusation would be a lot of greens that call out the M6 for stoning Cozy. A fixfic rewrites the episodes completely or mostly.
Here’s a group for accusation type:
https://www.fimfiction.net/group/198187/the-accusation-fic-collection

Here’s one for a fixfic group:
https://www.fimfiction.net/group/204501/fixfics/folders

There are several others you can find using the search feature on Fimfiction. Some may be tagged as AU and therefore will not appear as a fixfic. That can make them kind of hard to find.
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>>34299720
and got worse each year.
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I feel that the finale would have been much better if Twilight had decided to move her administrative capital to Ponyville and rule alongside her friends, as that would have preserved much better the friendship theme of the show. Does anyone else think that this would have been a better way to end the series?
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>>34303072
>I feel that the finale would have been much better if Twilight had decided to move her administrative capital to Ponyville
That feels like the sort of thing that might start a civil war: would Canterlot ponies really just lie down and let all the importance their city has held as the capital for millennia just flow down the mountain to some backwater town?
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>>34303258
Celestia and Luna made Canterlot their capital during their reign, so maybe Twilight could use it as a precedent to choose her own. To calm down the Canterlot ponies, she could asign a different role to the city, like it happens in South Africa, where different cities act as the capital for different purposes.
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>>34302282

You're welcome. Like I said, way too few people seem to know about it.
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>>34302705
Like an anime collection where the "special features" are all interviews with the dub cast, only worse.

>>34302747
Right behind Twi's horn, anon.
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>>34303258
If they hadn't established windigoes early on, a civil war could have been a great arc.
>It would have had the hallmarks of your typical high fantasy--a huge conflict, epic battles, even some events that massively affected Equestrian politics. Without revealing too much, let's just say that shit was gonna go down.
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>>34303320
So perhaps Ponyville could be the executive capital and Canterlot would be the legislative and judicial capitals?

Also, if Celestia allowed Twilight to stay in Ponyville following S1E2, I don't think she would force her to move back, altough I have to admit her penthouse looked pretty attractive.
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>>34303072
Twilight can instantly teleport herself around, so I don't see why there's any reason she wouldn't be able to live in Ponyville while still holding court in Canterlot.
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>>34303491
Because they wanted to write her leaving Ponyville.
She could work at Canterlot and sleep at home.
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>>34303491
Because even though not outright stated, unicorns have MP so their magic isn't unlimited.

Best shown in the S5 finale during and after the Twilight vs Glimmer fight.
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So what the fuck was the point of the friendship castle? If she had to fuck off to canterlot to lead the nation?
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>>34303552

It's where she stores the blow and beefcakes for weekends of shameless indulgence.
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>>34303552
The point was "BUY OUR TOYS!"
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>>34303560
Ah I see, it became the trapcastle. That explains why it's mostly empty and horrible looking.
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>>34303548
There's a big difference between a never-ending magic duel against an equally powerful/skilled unicorn and a quick teleport twice a day.
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>>34303571
Glimmer inherited it.
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>>34302104
Works fine for me.
https://mega.nz/#F!KDYDxAKb!H-iefX9Bd62c4L844nj19A
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>>34303574
...across a distance of miles, up and down a mountain.
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>>34303548
So what do alicorns have? They obviously have finite supplies of magic, as evidenced when Tirek stole the princesses' magic, but it's clearly larger than those of unicorns, as evidenced when they never lose their cutie marks after their magic gets stolen.
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>>34303491
>>34303504
Well, how long would the train ride take?
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>>34303574
Twilight forgot she could teleport when she and her friends were about to be murdered by the villains in the finale and you think she would remember she can teleport just to go to Ponyville every night.
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>>34303491
>holding court in Canterlot.

How would a princess be allowed to also be a judge?
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>>34303612
A whole night and then some according to MMMystery on the Friendship Express.

Less than a few hours according to S9 Sombra.
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>>34303616
I bet OP is talking about a royal court, as in a group of nobility. Even then, I don't even think Equestria has a division of the branches of the government.
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>>34303616
"Holding court" is a term for when a monarch is presiding over an official assembly to determine matters of state.
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>>34303624
>Even then, I don't even think Equestria has a division of the branches of the government.

Equestria is too large and too developed for that to be the case. I think the government is relatively modern in its organisation, but Celestia/Luna retain almost absolute authority (should they choose to exercise it) since unlike real life the nobility/government never got pissy about being subservient to a monarch.
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>>34303552
Starlight need a house
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>>34303552
It's the new hotel for non ponies.
A totally new place for diversity where ponies aren't allowed
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>>34303414
Cringe and shitterpilled
Your garb is literally incapable of being canon and some background shitpost doesn't prove it is
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>>34303602
>link is still up
THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF HASBRO
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>>34304009
Might be a honeypot (but I doubt it) >>34296479 >> 34296486
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>>34303469
I like this idea. have 3 capital cities or whatever they would be called, each specializing in their branch of governance. Canterlot, the Crystal Empire and then Ponyville.

but then >>34303624 brings a good point, further developed by >>34303645 that the Equestrian government probably functions somewhat differently than how a traditional modern government operates, regardless of which archy, ocracy or public it is, if those are even words with my intended meanings when used on their own.

we already have a princess of this and princess of that, and no actual king or queen, one to rule them all, other than Celestia of course, but since she's fully stepped down from ALL of her responsibilities, including the sun for the whole fucking planet itself, why not split things and divide the responsibilities?

Cadence is doing fuck all in the crystal empire-- as long as the crystal heart holds out, but even then, it's the council of friendship job to fix it while she and shining armor cluelessly blame each other for Flurry's safety.

It's a newer generation that requires an ever-evolving method of leadership. the fundamentals are set, but the challenges are always new, requiring new ways to handle them.

had Luna and Celestia actually embraced this instead of sticking with tradition and the old way, Cozy might have gotten the help she needed in order to make the corrective adjustments needed to be an accepted and contributing member of Equestria, instead of the blanket punishment of sweeping it all under the rug of Tartarus or stone imprisonment.

Tartarus wasn't just home to villans but also misunderstood magical creatures that probably were originally put there just to get them out of the way, e.g. the cockatrice, which we later see is somewhat domesticatable once understood.
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>>34304041
You really think Hasbro would try to sue people for downloading content? They never have before.
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>>34304271
Too bad, they missed all the fun.
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>>34304087
But really though, how would politics play out in a world where monarchs can rule forever? Think about it, every lifeform dependent on a daynight cycle are alive thanks to Celestia, that is proof enough that she deserves to reign their world therefor nobody rejects her every command.

I'd myself like to write about a more politically realistic Equestria, maybe one were the Villain trio won for example. What if the land was divided between them, what would happen next? I still want to know that.
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>>34274171
what's doing nightmare moon here.
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>>34304499
That's Luna.
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i-i liked the finale...
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>>34304664
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>>34304664
I hate the finale but I will defend a single aspect of it. Twilight leaving her friends to become the ruler of Equestria is done to mirror the audience's experience saying goodbye to the show. I'm willing to suspend my disbelief on that aspect in order to enjoy the emotion of the story. Nothing will ever make me defend the fact that they betrayed the show's core values by stoning the villains and destroyed all hope of a happy ending by showing 85% of the mane 6 childless in their 50s though.
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>>34304711
>I want to get cucked like Pinkiefags
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>>34304781
>Not dying inside when a version of your waifu is old and decrepit with no big happy family and only sees her friends once a month
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>>34304711
>I hate the finale but I will defend a single aspect of it.
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>>34305104
Just because an episode is bad it doesn't mean that literally nothing about it makes sense
If you're going to have criticism it needs to be accurate to explain why you believe something to be bad as opposed to just making shit up
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>>34196514
I'm hoping at least a few hundred of you faggots kill yourselves because this show is dead.
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>>34305185
Hi Lee
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>>34304360
>But really though, how would politics play out in a world where monarchs can rule forever? Think about it, every lifeform dependent on a daynight cycle are alive thanks to Celestia
So she saved the world. So have lots of other ponies. Maybe other creatures have too, without ponies' knowing. Doesn't mean every creature across the world is going to worship her; if they even believe that she's done what ponies claim.

I had the idea once that, just as deep states and bureaucracies learn to "manage" heads of state in the real world, Equestria's would learn to manage her over the years; keeping her from disrupting their business through careful information control, busywork, suggestion and (possibly, if necessary) blackmail (through deniable proxies). Her constancy would make this easier rather than harder. (https://www.fimfiction.net/story/29271/princess-celestia-hates-tea is sort of in this direction.)

I've also daydreamed about an alternate version of Celestia's rise to power. Rather than instantly trusting Star Swirl and automatically wanting to serve mortal ponies, she'd demand to know his business in Canterlot and what he had to offer the endangered alicorn race. (Conceiving alicorn offspring would be among her top goals.)
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>>34305114
I've written it out too fucking many times and there have been too many threads. It makes no sense to defend something that you think is bad, it's just being dishonest with yourself. Unless you don't think it was that bad, which is a different case.
>Just because an episode is bad it doesn't mean that literally nothing about it makes sense
Except nothing does make sense. There's plenty of contradictions internally, but even externally. The show has (had, really) a very clear purpose and intent; shifting your finale to be some kind of indefinite, abstract meta reference to the show is retarded and completely loses the point of a finale, which is to conclude the show. It should be a finishing note to the prior 9 seasons and all of their episodes, not a finishing note to the fact that there were 9 seasons.
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/mlp/ was my home board in 2012/2013/2014 but the hiatus for season 5 killed my interest and I moved on to anime.

Watched the finale for the hell out it and it sucked, is the movie any better?
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>>34305285
Movie is way better but it's not that great. If you didn't mind season 4, you'll probably be okay with it.
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>>34305285
Go check out the Rainbow Roadtrip special, it was pretty good.
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>>34304664
>>34273395

>>34304711
Sorry to nag, but how can you "enjoy" an ending that goes directly against the themes and relationships the show was built on?
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>>34305237
>It makes no sense to defend something that you think is bad
Except it does if you value truth above feelings.
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>>34305362
>truth
>in a discussion of subjective opinion
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>>34305380
>muh "everything is subjective" meme
Opinions can be objective as long as they are supported by facts and not feelings
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>>34305305
Best Gift Ever is also great. Just a comfy slice of life christmas story of cute ponies doing cute things, as it should be.
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>>34304781
I am an Applefag and it really hurt me to see AJ childless. Considering how much she values family and how maternal she is towards Apple Bloom, I just can't picture that she would not want to have foals of her own to pass on down the farm.
Knowing that I could never be with a 2D pony, I would have loved to get cucked to see her get a happy ending.
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>>34304781
Waifufag pls
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>>34305561
I can't tell if bait or retarded. Discussing like/dislikes, good/bad of an episode is completely subjective. Subjective discussions are really the only ones of value; objective are pretty cut and dry. Opinions are never objective, by definition. They just become valid/supported/logical or however you wish to describe them. Some opinions are far more evinced than others; they'll never be objective.
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>>34304781
>he wanted to see his waifu on-track to die alone and barren
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>>34305582
>I would have loved to get cucked
Yeah. I know you would fucking love that.
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>waifu have husband and children
HAHAHA you're a cuck! Cuck cuck cuck!
>waifu don't have husband or children
Wow, you really want to look your waifu suffer dying alone and barren

Nobody won with this finale.
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>>34305686
>waifu wasn't shown in the future scenes
I won.
>inb4 she ded lmao
She doesn't live in Ponyvile.
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>>34305695
Sound like dead to me
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>>34305695
who is your waifu? I guarantee she still got a bad end.
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>>34305686
>Nobody won
I don't have any waifu and all this shitposting material will keep me busy until the G5.
I won
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>>34305609
>Opinions are never objective, by definition
False, you have to be a brainwashed soiboi to actually think this way; objective simply means that you are using facts and supporting evidence
You can have the objective opinions that 2+2=4 or that Twilight is purple, for example. Then you can have the opinion that a certain episode is bad and as long as you have evidence to support this claim it's objective.
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>>34305702
>barely appeared in S8-9 shitshow and avoided getting ruined
>was brave and useful in the finale (well, at least by these shitty writers standards)
>still lives happily after the finale
>wasn't shipped, Whitley's fanfics were inevitably discarded back in S8
I'm among the luckiest actually.
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>>34279568
Because muh diversity
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>>34305712
the pillars are implied to have died after the timeskip
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>>34305728
don't we all die after a timeskip?
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>>34305728
>implying implications
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>>34305712
>all of her friends and family are dead
>all of the villagers she knew are dead
>the village has deteriorated completely from what it once was
She never had it great, but she does have a purpose. I guess you did make it out, but you hardly made it in to begin with. I kind of envy you. If only the writers forgot more.
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>>34305768
I'm more interested in how she felt about turning from a unicorn into an earth pony.
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>>34304664
I liked except Disturd being Grogurg and villain unredemption.
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>>34305285
Graphics are good, but plot is shit. Mane 6 keep behaving as irresponsible retards even when they have Equestria conquered and in mortal danger. And then they take on a whole army with a 10 creature squad and succeed.
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>>34305817
probably the same way any character feels when they get retconned or amnesia or have to act like assholes. It's probably like being possessed and losing coherent thought, like everything is cloudy.
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>>34305817
And losing all her 7 magical items.
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>>34305011
Once a month is about how often my Meetup group meets, so it really isn't that bad.

Besides, people are saying that the finale is Twilight's vision of the future and what she'll look back on, so maybe she is just afraid that she will need to leave Ponyville. I remember back in S1E2 that Celestia let her stay in Ponyville, so I don't think this fear would be realized at all.

But on the off chance that she does move back to Canterlot, what happened to her penthouse? And how much does she owe in back rent?
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>>34305875
>De facto ruler of Equestria must pay back rent to move back to her nation's capital

Would that realistically ever happen, Anon?
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>all the complaints about the ponies not having kids
The writers were nice enough to make these ponies reflect your own future, incels
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>>34305956
Dilate
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>>34304668
Gosh, I remember that phrase. From a more fun time...
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If the show showed the ponies with kids and husbands you woukd all be raging

>noooo, shes my waifu! Why do they always have to shoehorn romance?! Faust would hate this shit!
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>>34305959
Cope
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>>34305992
Waifufags are subhumans and don't deserve to have kids. Ponies are not waifu/husbandofags so they do.
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Wait the last episode is not until october, how did you faggots get a hold of it?
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>>34306037
We asked Jim politely and he let us see it.
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Was I cucked or not? Please tell me so I can be sad and leave my waifu for some reason
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>>34306207
Yes.
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>>34306207
>posting Fluttershy AND Ponk
Anon, I'm so sorry...
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>>34306207
Nope, because your waifu is yours and no one else's. If anyone says otherwise, they don't know how waifus work.
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>>34306207
No, because nothing after MMMystery on the Friendship Express is canon.

Not even 5 minutes of it.
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>>34306331
KEK KEK KEK
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if Haber was competent he could have just made them mention offscreen husbands and kids without actually showing them
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>>34306459
I know. It's funny because it's true.
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>>34305825
>Graphics
>>>/v/

>>34305875
>people are saying that the finale is Twilight's vision of the future
People are meming.

>>34305959
Dilate has three syllables

>>34305992
It's almost as though suddenly skipping 30 years after 9 seasons of the ponies being fixed at a particular life stage was a bad idea.
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I just finished the finale at exactly 4:20 AM
I can't believe it's over
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>>34306939
>if Haber was competent
so much would be different
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Actually I've became so accustomed to hiatuses and early airings and then nothing new for weeks, that I already don't really feel like it has ended.
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>>34307337
I almost feel the same but I know deep down that's it. It's done. It's all over. I'm just astounded it was over 200 episodes, but then again it was nine fucking years. Nine years. Nine years... NINE fucking YEARS.
Oh I'm feeling it again.
I hope to fucking christ that a) G6 is good and b) they show a preview of it immediately after airing the final episode. I can't just let it go.
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>>34307352
Right there with you anon. can't believe it's been 9 years...

a) Stay strong, have faith ^^.
b) that's probably too much to hope for but it'd be astounding if they did that! If it does happen, it'll probably be a short trailer for the next movie though (Isn't a movie supposed to be kicking off gen5? someone feel free to correct me if i'm wrong.)
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>>34307371
>Isn't a movie supposed to be kicking off gen5
Not that Anon, but yes. Also I believe he deliberately wrote G6 because we've already seen the confirmation of G5 being dead on arrival. We'll have to endure a generation at least as it seems.
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>>34307393
Oh shoot, dead on arrival? I hadn't heard that. Why? .o.
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>>34305956
But the real problem is Celestia, Luna, and Twilight not having any. They need more in the line of succession because Prince Blueblood is the only one after Twilight.
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>>34305215
finally, someone else who likes to add realistic politics to kiddie shows
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>>34307413
Because the 2017 leaks had some very alarming content in the mail traffic between staff members. Of course, nothing was finalised back then, but there was a clear writing on the wall.
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>>34307681
That just seems like unfounded opinion if that's all there is. I actually remember those leaks, and they gave me confidence in G5 being able to be interesting. I guess I'm a minority opinion though if it's 'clear writing on the wall' because I missed that.I just don't recall it being 'alarming'.
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>>34306207
Yes, double cuck if they're both your waifus.
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>>34307810
Team don't know what to do with new Mane 6.
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>>34307810
There were some signs regarding things like political correctness and the like. And no, I don't mean only Blacklejack. Something along the lines of diversity VAs and such crap.
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>>34304664
it is okay. but we will call you names.
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>>34304664
I didn't mind how it ended with ep 25. Not immediately rushing a villain redemption at the end there with what they did is fine with me. But the 26th episode i just felt was so out of place.
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>>34307997
Watching that epilogue wasn't like getting hit by a truck, it was a bruce lee one inch punch
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>>34307835
>diversity VAs
is this better or worse than hiring startalents?
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>>34308202
As I understand, it's diverse startalent.
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>>34308202
>>34308230
they want guest star talent for the movie, but then want to hire soundalikes for the show
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>>34308234
well, that doesnt sound TOO bad
if it has a spanish dub then its saved
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>>34307997
It's not like their only choices were "last-second redemption" and "helpless victim condemned without trial to fate worse than death". How did you feel about the instant forgiveness for Discord?
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>>34305686
>Nobody won with this finale.
Shitposters
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>>34308498
seeing them grow old and Twilight outliving them still is a horrible sight to see
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>>34308460
They've been suspicious of Discord for a while but eventually they got over that. This was him for once honestly screwing up with the best intentions. Who knows how long it took them to fully get over this? Once it was all said and done, he may still have been punished, just not petrified. He could've done more though to make it up to them in the episode.
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>>34308234
Wait, as in star talent for the new main six? Why the fuck would anyone think that's a good idea?
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How is that project coming with the voice AI's? There was a generals here for a while, any links to their project website?

And related, what about the animation assets? I remember some people backed off after the buttons fiasco but would doing g4 style ponys after this show ends be doable or is hasbro still gonna be a dick and swing the ban hammer?
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>>34308666
He directly arranged the destruction (murder) of the Tree of Harmony, and showed no signs of ever intending to reveal his involvement. He would have had no reason to lead the trio to the real bell if he didn't plan for it to be used. Just how much benefit of the doubt has he ever earned?
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>>34308748
>>34300569
And Hasbro being a dick is always a safe bet.
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>>34309203
Dick game good
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I think this fits what we see here very well.
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>>34310107
Still hard to believe it's been 9 fucking years, and 10 years for the production. Exactly 10 years ago during fall, when I was a careless high school guy fucking around on imageboards and playing vidya, Lauren's team were working on something that will change my life forever. Fucking hell.
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Whatever your feelings on how the show has concluded, please keep the happy memories you have of it close to your heart. That way, you can be better than me, who can never start watching the show because an associate of mine, an adult with Down's syndrome with whom I pretend to be friends even as I secretly despise them, is a fan of the show. I know you can be better than me, even if I know nothing else about you.
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>>34308748
It’s going very well actually, I don’t think I’ve ever seen so much commitment put into a project on /mlp/, those anons have put in so much work and already produced some impressive results. I’m excited to see where it goes
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>Twilight Sparkle is now the immortal God-Emperor of friendship while her friends are actually aging and will eventually die one by one
It's actually really fucking depressing if you think about it. She should be called the Princess of Loss because that will be the only constant from here on out. And if the CMC will eventually bite the dust, no one will be left to remember the adorkable nerd Twilight, instead all will perceive her as this unapproachable celestial being, much like Celestia and Luna (do they age after they've given Twilight their powers?). I don't know if dragons really get old, so maybe Spike will be there at the end but still.
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>>34310389
>(do they age after they've given Twilight their powers?)
They probably didn't, just threw away their crowns.
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>>34305686
non-waifufags
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>>34310499
They're the ones who say that shit cause they're fucking retarded, shipfags too but they're one in the same.
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>>34310389
>if you think about it
Well, I mean, many people have been thinking about this since Twilight ascended. Meghan's infamous tweet and (mostly) the fact that Twilight kept on being relatively small made us forget it, but the possibility was always there.
The stupid epilogue that made absolutely clear that Twilight isn't like her friends anymore is just the confirmation that something we feared six years ago is actually the truth.

This is one of the moments that really make me believe that the current staff hate the show and everything about it. Through the show many people repeated, "maybe it's not malice, maybe it's just ignorance," but there's no fucking way anyone could ignore that Twilight outliving her friends was everyone's #1 concern when she became an alicorn. Haber deciding that Twilight will outlive her friends is nothing but malice, this is an intentional "fuck you" to the fandom and everyone who cares about the characters.
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>>34310548
Yeah it was a popular fan theory but thinking they went actually through with it is something else. On one hand, I applaud them for not pussying out there, but on the other hand it was executed pretty poorly.

Yet I can't help that it was still bad writing. I mean, the theme of the epilogue is change and passing on the torch, that being afraid of change is okay as long as you have friends, yet the end clearly shows that Twilight is the only one that won't change anymore. She's literally going to sit on that throne for thousands of years, if not for all eternity. How can you be the goddess of friendship if you end up completely disconnected from your subjects, which are mere mortals. I don't recall Luna and Celestia having any friends at all, even the mane 6 always had a respectful, but distant relationship with them. Which makes sense considering they're old as dirt, but the same will eventually happen to Twilight. Not to mention she has to rule alone which was previously a two mare job, Celestia even mentioned that it was a really fucking bad time having to manage the job all alone. And what about the dreams Luna protects? The ending wasn't very well thought out, and I don't mean that as an elitist or something, because I still recognize that this is a kid's show first and foremost and I still had fun with the weaker seasons.
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>>34276229
TWILIGHT IS GOING TO OUT LIVE HER FRIENDS
TWILIGHT IS GOING TO OUT LIVE HER FRIENDS
TWILIGHT IS GOING TO OUT LIVE HER FRIENDS
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>34276229
Would be pretty ironic if Spike hit that appropriate age and Rarity was legitimately into him but after all the years Spike wasn't into her like that anymore. He ended up friendzoning her and fucked everyone else under the sun. Ember, Gabby, Starlight, Garble, etc.
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>>34310745
God Spikechads are based
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>>34310755
i'm still amazed that was produced so quickly
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>>34307632
Is that a Hyakume? What are creepy Japanese creatures doing in my board about petite ponies?
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>>34310725
>>34310745
>>34310755
this level of pathetic should not be even possible, unbelievable
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>>34310591
>Celestia even mentioned that it was a really fucking bad time having to manage the job all alone.
When was that, again?
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>>34310725
Wasn't that basically the whole premise of Dragon Dropped?
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>>34310870
>gay Spike
Saurian, is that you?
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>>34310864
I'm pretty sure this happened at least once in the show, though I'm not sure which episode it was.
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There's no Rainbow Roadtrip thread and I don't think this deserves starting a new one.
I grabbed the three available rips (Discovery App, China and Ukraine's) and stacked them together to make a logoless rip, using the Ukraine rip for most of the frame. It's not perfect as I couldn't match some shades of purple for the night scenes, but works quite fine for most of its runtime. The audio and subtitles are also from the Discovery rip and they were labeled as HDTV:

https://mega.nz/#!4XoTWQ5L!RqA-FhLSX-C5hefpL2NMxBXEwrbxmli1LUl6QnndZ9k

Here's the vapoursynth script:
https://pastebin.com/FBmkV6eT

And the encoding settings:
vspipe --y4m rainbow.roadtrip.vpy - | x264 --demuxer y4m - --preset placebo --deblock -3,-3 --me umh --merange 32 --aq-mode 2 --bframes 16 --aq-strength 0.70 --trellis 0 --psy-rd 1.00:1.00 --no-fast-pskip --threads 0 --crf 17.5 --output Rainbow.Roadtrip.2019.mkv
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I am not cucked. There is nothing you can say or do that will make me think otherwise.
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godspeed, friends. Been here since 2011 and I will miss you all.
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>>34311221
Join the fandom since 2012~2013. I'll miss you too, you faggot.
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>>34311221
stick around, faggot. read some green, appreciate some drawfriends, hell start writing or drawing cute ponies doing cute things as a hobby and post it here. the show may be over, but the ride is just getting started
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>>34305686
>Nobody won with this finale.
except villains won and is not the three stooges
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>>34311122
(Anon who ripped the Chinese and Ukrainian versions here)
This is amazing! I was kinda hoping that someone would do this, but I was too lazy to do it myself. I really appreciate that you did it, now we finally have a good rip of RR. Thank you so much, man!!
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>>34310877
>post Braeburned
>get asked if I'm Saurian
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>>34310548
>Meghan's infamous tweet and (mostly) the fact that Twilight kept on being relatively small made us forget it
Given that 1. Only fools believe Meghan when she lies and 2. Twilight was still noticably larger. I don't think those were the reasons people weren't expecting this.
I can't speak for others, but I know that I wasn't expecting any timeskip or older mane6 at all. At worst I expected it to be the same as other finales and ending right after the big bad was defeated, and maybe emphasize a "big future awaits" undertone. Actually showing them older would require things like cucking waifufags and couldn't be bothered. Not to mention that if Twilight's real goals were ruined, why would they care for any of their futures?

The other reason is likely that everyone who openly saw through McCarthy's lies and anticipated it left as early as Castlemania, creating a hidden mentality of not expecting the most obvious outcome.
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This strawpoll is barely getting anyone, so I'm going to shill it here.
>>34309185
https://www.strawpoll.me/18642658
Not the person I linked btw
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>>34311415
What were Twilight's "real goals", again?
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>>34311419
>This strawpoll is barely getting anyone
That's because there are ten choices and the correct answer isn't even there (A Canterlot Wedding)
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>>34299999
>>34300000
>>34311111
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>>34310389
Spike and Discord will still be around, and with her they've got a full Three Amigoes
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I wonder how the archive can handle this thread
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Bump :)
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>>34305686
I hate this redneck mentality. Where did you faggots inherit this delusional parody mentality?
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Anyone remember what that group on Fimfic was called? "We hate what happened to MLP" something like that? it has 200 members.
I need a link to it and some info.
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>>34311759
-->>34302959
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>>34296719
What a boring graph. Post the one which goes down in the negative.
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>>34311122
Good job, anon.
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>>34312217
I... I am going to miss this goddamn show... Back when it was good.
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>>34311772
Do you not know how to read a graph or something?
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>>34311448
>Twilight becoming the next Starswirl never
I hate this timeline
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>>34311690
It's just some simple PHP, no?
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>>34311690 >>34312435
Didn't it break a while ago, so only the "chunk" view works?
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>>34310389
It would have actually been quite intesting to explore the side of Celestia that nobody remembers, the ruler who must have made every mistake imaginable over a thousand years before learning from them to become the almost perfect pony we know.
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"I won't let you fade in the dark. It's hard remembering your voice. I've gotta see those smiles again. Though it's selfish, do I have a choice?"
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>haha all those shows shoving LGBT pandering at least MLP is whole-
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>>34312946
it was supposed to be different...
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>>34312946
>tfw actually remember saying something to the effect of this
>mfw
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>>34296771

or you know, more realistically, just make a anon supported company that makes "Magic-Horse-Show(TM)" that is totally 100% not related to hasbro or mlp at all,
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>>34310870
Well, kinda, it could be seen more as a phase too where Spike was completely able to ignore Rarity for a time because he was so fixated on Gabby. Afterwards there is nothing to say his old feelings didn't surface, but if Rarity ended up alone like the others, she's definitely the type to try and rekindle an old flame.
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>>34310870
>that image

See, I would much rather have had spike look more like that, like the S1 dragons, walking on 4 and all that, not a bipedal anthro looking chad parody.
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>>34312713
Ah, prince whateverer.
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>>34312946
Aren't you like way too late to complain about something that happened three months ago though? Because the cancerous LGBT pandering happened in June, when the writers decided to have an episode rewriting the entirety of Scootaloo's past only to give her a couple of lesbian aunts that literally only existed so Vogel could brag about them on the news and get clueless praise during the pride month. Absolutely agreed, that episode should have never existed.
Unless you're a moron completely unable to understand what "pandering" means, and you're talking about LyraBon, in that case, you should stop using words you don't understand, and seethe more.
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Just remember, because memory is forever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPq8VT7fx1E
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>>34313513
Pretty sure everyone would've preferred that. Only thing Spike looks good for now is memes
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>>34311428
Ask Faust.

>>34312318
I like this
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So flutterbutter is taking DICKords monster cock now?
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>>34314058
>now
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>>34314058
She hopped on his cock way back in Season 3
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>>34314058
Weak shipfag bait
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>>34314058
>now
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>shipfags killing the sticky
Why must this cancer plague us so?
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>>34314112
>>34314126
>>34314642
never happened stop with your delusional fanfictions
>>34298183
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>>34313183
arrest yourself
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>>34314674

Face it man. Discord rails your waifu every single night, and he is able to fulfill her every weird fetish with a fingersnap.

There is nothing you can do that he can't do better.
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>>34314719
>Implying
Whatever you need to say to yourself so you can keep reading your shipfics.
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>>34314670
>killing
There is nothing left to discuss.
Also, that retarded flutterfag need to fucking go already. Or he can try to self insert into Discord, like maudfags with that stick guy.
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>>34314741
It's a falseflagging shipfag. We've been over this.
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>>34314766
I'm not talking about the bait, I'm talking about that retard who wants to cleanse the board from every post he personally doesn't like. It's having the opposite effect and amuses shitposter even more.
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>>34314794
What does he do to "cleanse" the board?
Only thing I can think of is reporting.
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>>34314805
>all the fucking deleted posts
Shitposter thinks that flutterfag is absolutely mad and keep posting more bait.
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I asked one artist about the villains:

To be honest, after I saw what they did to the other villains, I was kinda happy that Sombra, my favorite villain, was only disintegrated. I wouldn't want him to be in a lineup with the other villains for sure.:giggle:
As much as I love MLP's villains I'm kinda glad the creators didn't throw any redeeming cards at them, since it was getting kinda old (still shifting my gaze at the lost potential of the Pony of Shadows :cry: ). Yeah, yeah, there was an indication that they could try and get along and they had that brief sparkle of wanting friendship for once, but in later episodes it becomes clear that those three could not be redeemed in any way. At least in a logical way, considering the build-up.


Here's a bit more detail about my general opinion about each of them:

About Cozy Glow:
It's still hard for me to speak of Cozy Glow as a villain. As much as it is hilariously stupid to have a murderous filly in MLP, especially when it's a literal walking pink baby with a bowtie, I always considered her to be really... "curious" villainous concept, weird at the very least. Since she is a child, it's hard to pick any punishment for her after all the horrible things she did, at least a punishment that seems justified for a walking baby-villain, and that is not complicated enough for kids that are watching the show. It seems like the writers did a slightly wrong turn with making her irrredeemable. I do agree that both of the punishments she received were kinda cruel towards a walking kid, but... The writers cornered themselves and made her completely irredeemable, so... ^^;
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>>34314838
As I said up above: It's hard for me to speak of Cozy Glow as of an actual villain, I skipped most of the episodes of her solo villainy because I didn't really care for the Student Six, and when I found out that Cozy was the surprise villain of this two-parter I found this to be hilariously stupid, and then, in season 9, Cozy annoyed the sh*t out of me. She is a funny concept of a villain, but not the kind of a villain I'm into. Unlike the Pony of Shadows, I think Cozy is the one to deserve a sappy backstory to fuel her motivation, that would already make her much more interesting, but since she doesn't really have one... I don't really care about her and her fate. She's crazy, irredeemable after being imprisoned in friggin' Tartarus, so... What else could you do with her? Maybe if Tirek was turned into Cozy's actual mentor and he wouldn't show that she annoys the sh*t out of him either, maybe Cozy could be more interesting to me. But, well, Tirek hates her and she's just crazy for her own reasons. That's all I think of her and her final fate.

Now to Chrysalis:
I don't like how the writers turned Chrysalis from a queen with an actual morally grey and not terrible motivation to protect and feed her hive, to rulership-sick-"I want to take over the world and rule everyone" kind of villain. I think many fans don't like it either.
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>>34314841
She had her moments during her teamwork with the others tho, but it's jarringly painful to think that her final fate depends so much on her motivation. If she would remain the same Chrysalis that cares about her subjects and only wishes the best for them, she would 100% be redeemed in some way, because I could probably guess that she'd rather remain with those she gave birth to rather than harm them just to rule Equestria for some reason, or she could even exile herself because she understood that she couldn't help her subjects anymore and her time is up. This bug has NOBODY who loves her anymore, and even though her new revenge motivation kinda makes sense, and I did enjoy every second of her screentime, I hate that the writers just shifted her from a caring bug-mom to the Count of Monte Cristo type of character. Fortunately, she doesn't have as much lost potential as the Pony of Shadows... But I do think that Sombra's shift in character is way better than what Chryssi got.

Lastly, Tirek:
For me, Tirek was probably the most enjoyable and the most memorable part of the villainous trio. He's just your typical, normal and absolutely great type of Saturday morning cartoon villain. He was evil, he was creative, he was a brute, and he was kinda quirky at times.:aww: I enjoyed watching his reactions and small interactions throughout the episodes he was featured in, and unlike the other villains I think he fully deserved his punishment, therefore making it somewhat satisfying to watch Twilight defeat him. I remember not really caring much for Tirek as a villain before, since I thought that Nightmare Moon, Discord, Queen Chrysalis and King Sombra were already enough as a bunch, but I think after those episodes I just kinda got used to him and began to finally enjoy seeing his villainous act. I don’t really have much complaints about him, and I must address that I absolutely relate to his reactions to Cozy Glow despite what I said about them above.:giggle:
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>>34314836
>Deleting spam
Based
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If Twilight really does move back to Canterlot in the series finale, how do you think her Canterlot friends (plus her new roommate) would get along with her?
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>>34312467
Yeah, but that'd require delving into an immortal being's past when almost everyone else around her is mortal. That would be a pretty dark undertone, not that I think it wouldn't fit the show, but creators are always pussying out when it comes to that, 'little kid shows' and all that. I wonder which direction the show would've taken if the original creators would've seen it through to the end. I could imagine they would've tackled a few difficult topics such as loss of loved ones as well, in a much more explicit manner than what the show actually did, though I liked the episode about AJ's parents.

Which makes the finale even more astonishing. I mean even muh little kids can probably see and understand what it means to see immortal twilight next to her aging buddies, right?
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>>34315352
They'd get along, but there would be a lot of distance between them. Twilight was never really there in the first place and being the sole supreme ruler of Equestria throws up one hell of a barrier between them and normal ponies.
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>>34313848
The LGBT pandering in The Last Crusade wasn't even noticeable and made no impact on the show. Making Applejack a lesbian completely destroys her entire character and undermines every scene she had with Rainbow Dash. There has been left wing media that peddles diversity inclusion crap for the past 40 years. The difference in the last couple years is that they started doing it flippantly, not caring about how it makes the story much less interesting and believable.
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>>34315634
wasn't it a big thing in the fandom that AJ and Dash were pretty gay for each other? If anything what is most retarded about this is that AJ didn't adopt a bazillion kids, on the other hand you don't see their families if they have any, only Pinkie and she brought her kid along because it's hard to find a sitter with a sense of humor
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>>34315608
Well, let's not forget that in "Amending Fences", being a princess never stopped her old Canterlot friends from being friends with her... and that since Moondancer has a key to Twilight's penthouse now, Twilight will have a new roommate, whom she will likely need to interact with on a daily basis, when she returns.
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>>34314737
If only you were as accepting of the truth as Fluttershy is of that chaotic dick
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>>34314841
>>34314838
Cozy strikes me as the "Literally insane" kind of character-- She's one of the few that I actually think is legiitmately "Broken" on a mental level.

While chrysalis speaking to pieces of wood and all is nutty, her initial motivations of taking over equestria still seems like it was reasoned out from a properly formed mind.

Cozy? I don't see her having legitimately thought anything through besides just being fucked up in the head as a sociopath-- none of her plans seem to have a legitimate endgame (Get rid of magic, and then become ruler of the land... by running a school! WAT).
So while I generally 100% hate reforming villains, she is the ONLY one that i legitimately think could have worked well for it, since her minds fucked up and she needs counciling/therapy, and she lacks magic power without a third party giving it to her (Twilight handing her literal apocalypse tier relics to hold onto, or Discord and the belle).
So she should be relatively harmless if monitered and put into the school to be reformed legitimately.

>>34314846
The only thing I dislike about Tirek is that he "downgraded" from his initial appearance.

in his first appearance he was cunning and legitimately threatening, outwitting DISCORD, and showing himself to be the "Endgame" type villain for things up to that point.
But despite the fact that he's shown no desire in the past to work with others if there's a chance to betray and drain them (Working with discord was a legitimately profitable venture since he had more control of his magic than he did as a magical beatstick), he happily accepts cooperation with others without his previous treacherous trait, despite Draining the others being even MORE of a legitimate option here.
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>>34315643
Appledash was a popular ship with your typical 'omg so cuuute' shipper crowd that don't really think critically about anything. The actual topic of Rainbow Dash being gay was always contested and Lauren Faust herself seems to have come down on the side of Dash being straight in an article where she said something like "assuming that Rainbow Dash is gay because she's a tomboy with rainbow hair is based on an offensive stereotype". The original idea behind the main six's characters was to avoid falling into typical girl stereotypes as well, so it seems like she was never intended to be gay.

I can't really remember seeing all that much in the way of genuine discussion of Applejack's sexuality though. Applejack being gay seems to orbit the idea of Rainbow Dash being gay most of the time.

>>34315652
In Amending Fences Twilight was the princess of friendship with no real royal duties beyond making friends and inspiring others to be excellent to each other. Post-S9 Twilight is taking on all of the responsibilities of both Celestia AND Luna, which the show has shown to be an enormous task - Celestia and Luna struggled when they swapped roles, and they were still only dealing with half the responsibility Twilight now bears.

Also given that Celestia and Luna are moving away from Canterlot entirely it's much more likely that Twilight will be living in the princess' chambers rather than her old penthouse.
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you can't reform sociopaths, it's in their brain
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>>34314058
zephyr breeze does
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>>34315720
Well, it's heavily implied both of them are a couple, but on the other hand, them living together makes sense if you think about how Big Mac and his waifu took over the farm. Applebloom probably left the farm as well. AJ and Dash were both competitive tomboys which shouldn't make them gay per default, I agree. If she were to move out, I think it is okay she did so with Dash. AJ was always a family type pone, but she was a workaholic first and foremost, she never had a romantic side to her as far as I can remember. She barely interacted with anyone outside of her closest friends and family.
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>>34315725
You can't physically fix them, but you can teach them to function in society by recognizing their issues and how to try and understand their problems to be more self aware.

Not all sociopaths are serial killers anon, people who have issues feeling empathy, when they finally manage to understand the other person's feelings, often feel MORE than a normal person because it finally hits them what the emotion others are feeling is.
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>>34315778
>>34315725
And fuck, I feel dumb anyways, reread your "Its in their brain" bit. You state "sociopath", which is incorrect.

You're more referring to a psychopath who has a physical defect in them. A sociopath was made to be like that via experiences, so its an ingrained trait, but not a PHYSICAL trait.

Therapy can still be undertaken to "unlearn" whatever experiences in life made them shut off their empathy, since its a mental condition, not a physical defect, in order to rehabilitate them to integrate back into society, like any other mental disorder that's non-physical.
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villains in ending of the end didn't feel well treated enough. they could have at least let them use a little bit of the bell.
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>>34315748
>heavily implied
AJ refusal of help from RD means OMG THEY ARE GAYS LIVING TOGETHER AND DO CHORES SO HARD THEY GET LATE
It doesn't stop amusing me how shipper people are dumb and see shit where it is not.
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>>34315643
Generally speaking if it's big in the fandom it's actually retarded and detached from the show. Most ships were fotm, they would pop up after an episode because shippers don't have regular human contact or enough brainpower to see episodes for what they are. Appledash, rarijack, flutterdash, pinkiedash all had big upticks after their respective episodes.
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>>34315748
>them living together makes sense if you think about how Big Mac and his waifu took over the farm

Not really when you consider that Rainbow Dash lives in a giant pimping cloud house with rainbow waterfalls and shit. It's physically impossible for Applejack to live there without some pretty heavy duty magic and a way of getting up and down easily, and I can't see Rainbow Dash giving it up to go live in some boring-ass regular house on the ground.

And I don't think Applejack would be one to give up on the farm just because Big Mac landed himself a wife (who is a baker first and foremost, not a farmer). Applejack and Big Macintosh are both incredibly family-oriented and Sweet Apple Acres is essentially both of their entire lives, so I would think it far more likely that they would simply build a new farmhouse or extended the old one to accommodate the new additions.

I also wouldn't describe the Appledash shipping to be 'heavily' implied because it's basically one line of dialogue that is unbelievably easy to get around entirely using basic elements of both characters that have been shown over and over again. Consider this: Applejack and Rainbow Dash travel in together because they are essentially neighbours, and the chores that they are referring to are Applejack's farm chores - we have been repeatedly shown that Applejack's farm work is time-consuming and that she's also stubborn enough to refuse help unless she truly, genuinely needs it.

That was the product of a whole two minute's thought and didn't make any stretches or connect any dots that weren't already connected in the show.
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>>34301644
>>34301459
>Cupcakes
mostly just gore and shock value, if you really want something interesting you should read it and then immediately read the CSI parody sequel that actually makes a coherent story
MLP Forensics is magic part 1: http://www.bunnyrock.com/MyLittlePonyForensicsIsMagic1.pdf
MLP Forensics is magic part 2: http://www.bunnyrock.com/MyLittlePonyForensicsIsMagic2.pdf
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>>34310591
>I don't recall Luna and Celestia having any friends at all
That's mainly because we never really got to know them all that well. A SoL castle episode with some new staff members/friends or a 4 princess adventure episode were always on my wish list, but it apparently wasn't supposed to be.
Luna had one relevant appearance in the whole first two seasons besides FiM2.
Hell, didn't even Cadance get more screentime than those two?
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>>34310591
Celestia mentioned that she had filly friends in that one play episode. That means they're all long dead. It's quite a morbid implication.
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>>34313138
If you somehow get control of an animation studio, you should license Them's Fightin' Herds. No reason to reinvent the wheel yet again.

>>34314838 >>34314841 >>34314846
Are those your own opinions, or the artist's? Why the vagueness on who it was?

>>34315720
>Applejack being gay seems to orbit the idea of Rainbow Dash being gay most of the time.
Not Rarity? (Or whoever else someone wants to ship her with?)

>>34315794
Not this shit again. They're COLLOQUIAL terms, made to SOUND "scientific". Neither has ever appeared in the DSM. There is no "true", "technical" definition, and ever if there were, nobody here would be trying to use it. In the normal, colloquial context of discussing children's cartoon characters, they mean exactly the same thing. And the handful of people trying to force a distinction can't even agree on what it should be.

>A sociopath was made to be like that via experiences, so its an ingrained trait, but not a PHYSICAL trait.
Do we have literal dualists here?

>>34315830
t. didn't watch the episode

>>34315845
Just like the Apples argue over chores with their neighbor Golden Harvest, and bring her wherever they go, right? And it's just random coincidence that Rainbow happened to move in next to her, and that neither of their partners or kids happened to be mentioned.

>>34315869
>Cupcakes sequel
>CSI parody
>Show title snowclone
>PDF
>Random vanity-looking domain
Count the red flags.
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>>34316016
>Are those your own opinions, or the artist's? Why the vagueness on who it was?
The artist's. How should I have emphasized it?
>like this?
"or like this?"
I thought that simple ":" would be okay...
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>It's actually fine.
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>>34316016
>t. didn't watch the episode
Yeah they are totally lesbo.
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>>34316130
Ok retard
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>>34316016
>t. didn't watch the episode
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>>34315830
>>34315845
There's also Dash's hoof resting on AJ in the very last scene. Again, it's implied (imo pretty heavily), not explicitly stated. I also don't think Dash minds living on the ground since the spends most of her time near the ground anyway since many of her friends can't fly.
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>>34315891
>That's mainly because we never really got to know them all that well.
We know them better than many side characters who are simply shown to be hanging around with others. Luna and Celestia don't, they're sitting in the castle all day and even when they went on a vacation together others kept their distance. It's even weirder that they say they'll hang around the retirement home for the eldery (silver shores I think?) when their initial idea for retiring came from fighting the everfree forest with Starswirl.
>>34315996
Probably, considering they're pretty much primordial at this point, I think. I mean they fought with Discord back when, who is also a primordial force, the one of chaos. It's basically a creation myth with all the actors still present. Creating order out of chaos is a pretty common theme in such myths. On the other hand, they didn't seem to be THAT old when Starswirl was around, so there's that.
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>>34311122
My man.
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>>34316203
>Dash's hoof resting on AJ in the very last scene.
I'm not sure even irl lesbians place hands atop their lover's head.
But also animators made Dash and AJ exchange some glances with faces like those. >>34316130 Fuck them gays.

>>34316135
Your opinion is appreciated.
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>>34316072
Greentext and quotation marks are both methods of indicating quotes. Without them, you're speaking in your own voice.

>>34316240
>Probably, considering they're pretty much primordial at this point, I think. I mean they fought with Discord back when, who is also a primordial force, the one of chaos. It's basically a creation myth with all the actors still present. Creating order out of chaos is a pretty common theme in such myths.
That was a reasonable interpretation before Hearth's Warming Eve, when we learned that unicorns had managed the sky for generations before Discord ever showed up. After that, people tried various rationalizations to preserve their headcanons, but none of them ultimately held up.
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>>34315708
>So while I generally 100% hate reforming villains

Even Darth Vader?
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>>34315720
>inspiring others to be excellent to each other

...and party on, dudes?

>Post-S9 Twilight is taking on all of the responsibilities of both Celestia AND Luna

Besides this picture, which looks like a typo, what evidence do you have that Twilight will also be taking on Luna's dream world duties? And how would you react to Twilight being in your dreams? And how do you think the Equestrian people will react to Celestia and Luna becoming mere figureheads?

>Also given that Celestia and Luna are moving away from Canterlot entirely it's much more likely that Twilight will be living in the princess' chambers rather than her old penthouse.

What makes you say that? Does their bedroom have something Twilight's doesn't? And which do you think Twilight would prefer and why?
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>My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic
Friendship isn't magic anymore. It's all about big rainbow lasers and turning unarmed defenseless people into stone just because your "friend" manipulated them in the first place.
>My Little Pony
Show isn't about ponies anymore, now it's a giant mesh of 'everycreature", ponies are only a 6th of the population in their own nation.
>My Little
It's not even little anymore, because Twilight is a fucking giant now
>My
Literally only one word of the title is correct anymore. How did it come to this point?
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>>34316815
It's not mine anymore. I dont want any ownership of s8 or s9.
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>>34316815
You're right, we need a real little pony to teach us about the magic of friendship
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>>34316718
Darth vader was okay in his reformation since he still died for his sins-- easy reformation is shit, but since he had his son as motivation, and still had to pay a physical price for everything he did, it worked out.


I'm not 100% against reformations if done properly, but I think they can be overdone, and too often they come with an automatic erasure of all the past sins.
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speaking of redemption, It's so funny that the only thing that Discord had to do to make up to the Mane 6 was to trick Tireck to shoot a laser at a piece of glass to set everyone free.
That's it
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>>34315573
I am writing about this even though I have never written fiction before. I didn't like the epilogue, but I want to explore this concept that the writers didn't dare to touch.
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>>34317343
I'd recommend watching The Man from Earth before you fall into the all too common trope of immortality bad
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>>34311122
Based. It sure looked good, but man I literally fell asleep during it and I never bothered to go back and finish it.
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>>34317507
I would have liked another adventure with a villain. This felt like a 30 minute plot, like something the map should have sent them to deal with in S5.
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>>34317507
It would've been so much better it turned out that Sunny drained the town's color on purpose for some misguided reason. The whole special felt like it was building up to that but when it didn't happen I felt blueballed.
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>>34317571
>like something the map should have sent them to deal with in S5
That's what I liked about it, it reminded me of how the show was when it was good. No Princess Sparkle completely above her friends, no lasers and more lasers, not ponies acting like psychopaths and executing defeated enemies, just six friends helping other ponies. It was far from perfect with stuff like everyone ignoring AJ again, and it was padded as fuck, but compared to the goddamn awful finale I find it incredibly enjoyable.
Besides, even though I admit that such a simple story could have worked better in a 20 minute episode, in hindsight I celebrate that one of the very few enjoyable episodes of the last two years was treated differently. It makes easier to enjoy it while ignoring the rest of season 8 and 9.
I only wish Sounds of Silence got a similar treatment, then again, it was a Fluttershy and AJ episode, I reckon a Mane 6 one works better because everyone had something to enjoy here.
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>>34316016
>Just like the Apples argue over chores with their neighbor Golden Harvest
So I guess multiple episodes where Applejack argues over her chores with her friends because she's too stubborn to accept help didn't happen?

>and bring her wherever they go, right?
Literally pulling things out of thin air here.

>And it's just random coincidence that Rainbow happened to move in next to her
Again absolutely nowhere is this even implied, and in any case Rainbow Dash can cross from one end of Ponyville to the other in about ten seconds. As long as both of them are living in Ponyville they're close enough to be considered neighbours of some kind.

>and that neither of their partners or kids happened to be mentioned.
Rarity didn't have any of that either despite being the only member of the main six to be shown actively chasing stallions, does that make her gay now as well?
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Well, I finally got around to watching the finale, and I really liked it. Can't wait for the "Bronies React" video to come out and tell me everything I should be disappointed about.
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>>34317671
It's funny how even now there's still that one more thing to look forward to that both steals the catharsis and bandages the wound.
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>>34303626
Isn't that what parliament is for?
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>>34304087
>the Crystal Empire

I don't think you can choose a city in another country.
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>>34304360
>Think about it, every lifeform dependent on a daynight cycle are alive thanks to Celestia, that is proof enough that she deserves to reign their world therefor nobody rejects her every command.

The Ancient Egyptian pharaohs claimed to be able to raise the sun and moon, so that may be moot point.
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>>34303552
>If she had to fuck off to canterlot to lead the nation?

Then Moondancer would likely be her new roommate and she'd be seeing her Canterlot friends far more often than she used to. How do you think they'd get along?
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>>34317821
S4 flat out confirms they are needed to raise/lower the sun.
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>>34317825
Then they would be reaching out for thousands or millions of miles and moving 99% of the mass of the solar system. Would that sound plausible at all, especially if magic is a finite resource that can be stolen?
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>>34317849
Just because something can be stolen doesn't mean it's finite. I like to think of it like a bowl, with magic being the water. The water constantly refills, but if someone steals the bowl, it doesn't matter how much water there is, and now they can use it to catch more water for themselves.
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>>34317886
So the princesses have infinite magic, but someone can steal it and (also) use their abilities. I'm now trying to imagine Tirek causing a nightmare and Luna trying to fight him off.
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>>34317849
It's fucking magic, why does it need to plausible? Starlight Glimmer went back in time and fucked Rainbow Dash in the ass, does that sound plausible to you? Twilight turned a frog into an orange that hopped around and ate flies, is that plausible? What about when someone's consciousness was locked in a celestial body for hundreds of years, is that plausible?
In a world where magic can do shit like this, yes, it's plausible that someone could use it to raise the sun.
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>>34317888
I see it as, everyone has infinite magic, but the size of their 'bowl' determines how magically powerful they are, because that's how much magic they can reasonably wield. And as the show as demonstrated before, obviously there is no way to actually make your bowl larger, you're just born with a big one if you're lucky.
Cozy Glow's plan was to effectively stop the water from flowing at all, and thus 'end' magic, as everyone's bowls are now empty.
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>>34317890
Basically this?

But why would there even be a need for the sun and moon to be moved if Earth rotates naturally? Even an alternate geocentric Earth system would likely be impossible, since the sun would need to be barely large enough for a star to form and barely inside of Earth's orbit for a habitable, geocentric Earth. Especially considering that Equus's gravity may be weaker than Earth's, as evidenced by the fact that the tree housing Twilight's castle grew so large without any hinderance, a situation like that is pretty unlikely if not impossible.
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>>34317896
>Cozy Glow's plan was to effectively stop the water from flowing at all, and thus 'end' magic, as everyone's bowls are now empty.

That was her first plan, but the plan in the alleged finale was to not only cause the faucet to not do its job, but to also waste whatever water would have been used to do it, no?
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Did Zecora and Gilda show up in the finale?
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>>34317904
I wouldn't know, I haven't watched the finale yet. I just saw people talking about magic and wanted to join in.
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>>34317916
No offense, but this is called the "Finale Spoiler Bunker" for a reason... although the finale has yet to air in any country, so all of what we are talking about here has yet to be confirmed, just like Obi-Wan Kenobi destroying Luke's father.
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>>34317908
In a sense.
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Did it work?
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>>34318010
I am still feeling sad.
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>>34315698
You fags are the true cucks ironically.
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>>34318121
Just because you refuse to think about your waifu getting her womb blasted full of another man's cum, it doesn't mean it didn't happen.
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>>34318131
Your the one who fantasises about it retard. It's fiction anyway. The 2d show and afterlife Equestria are two separate entities. That's how you fags explain two people having the same waifu anyway. I'm done engaging you though so have fun living in your weird cuck fantasies.
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Alright, can i rant for a minute? Dafuq were the animators/writers thinking? Were they high? Ok, so they make all the characters except Twilight have wrinkles under their eyes, implying they are old and tired (i was estimating 30 years had passed when i first saw the epilogue). BUT, Pinkie and Big Mac's kids are still so young! What the hell?! You can't tell me those two waited like 15 years to have kids with their respective partners. So what the hell, Hasbro? This is a major plothole here.
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>>34318010
Genuinely makes me want to cry.
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>>34318151
Mane cast is around 50s.
> BUT, Pinkie and Big Mac's kids are still so young!
Look at Spoiled Rich.
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>>34318168
>Look at Spoiled Rich
Sorry, but i look at enough shit every time i use the bathroom. In all seriousness, Spoiled is the only pony who's had kids who looks that old. I'm thinking she's an exception, not a rule. So the ending makes even less sense desu
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>>34318177
>Spoiled is the only pony who's had kids who looks that old
Now, not only.
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>>34318198
Yep. Pinkie has joined the club.
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>>34318151

Or they wanted to make a point by allowing these plotholes to emerge: they're old, they're childless, they'll die without leaving anything behind, muh political ideals, Twilight will outlive them all, and fuck the fandom.
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>>34317903
>when you believe magic can be scientifically explained
>when you need machines to scientifically measure Pinkie's randomness sense
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I'm actually lmfaoing right now that a glimmerfag had the audacity to claim/compare her fans as "endangered" in my presense.
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>>34317809
It is, but Equestrian government is an odd hybrid of a monarch (or two) surrounded by nobility and apparently modern-ish representative democracy. I don't think the role of the nobility in government is ever really shown in any way, but Celestia and Luna are very much involved in the running of Equestria.
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>>34317903
>Equus
What is Equus? I only know of Earth and Equestria.
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>>34318659
A fan name for the world the ponies are living on because for some reason the show uses 'Equestria' to refer to the country and the whole world interchangeably. The writers even carried on doing it once it was made explicitly clear that Equestria the nation is very much not the entire world because they couldn't be bothered to think of something, I guess.
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>>34318714
>A fan name for the world
Ah, so that's why it sounds so dumb. Not that writers would've thought of anything better, besides calling it the same name as our world.
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>>34318718
There is at least some thought behind the name though. Equus is Latin for 'horse' so it follows the real-life convention of naming planets in our solar system - Terra, Luna, Sol, etc.
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>>34318753
Terra or Gaia would be better names than Equus. It just sounds silly at best.
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>>34318766
Terra and Gaia both refer to our own real-life Earth though.
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>>34318775
Could be repurposed to refer to their Earth as well.
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>>34318778
>their Earth

Are we heading into Planet of the Apes territory here?
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>>34318781
Maybe??? It's just an AU version of Earth, isn't it?
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>>34318718
>Ah, so that's why it sounds so dumb.
It was always a fine name, born out of necessity.
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>>34318785
Equus is not fine. Still better than Equis. Not like it's saying anything, when both are not fine.
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>>34318654
The role of nobility that I have heard of is in the UK's House of Lords. Perhaps "court" really happens when they meet.
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>>34318550
>A scientific explanation for magic

Perhaps only Twilight, Starswirl the Bearded, Celestia, and Luna hold the answer to that, but the power of love seems to play a role in it, as seen in the S3 premiere and "Hearth's Warming Eve".

If there even is a scientific explanation, which I doubt there is, what is it?
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>>34318766
Home planets named Terra and especially Gaia are used so many times that it is drab now
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>>34318849
They are? I know that Warhammer used Terra.
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>>34318852
I think Gaia or Gaea is frequently used in Final Fantasy games.
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>>34318872
I think Gaia was only used as the name for some weapon and some attack, if I remember correctly. Maybe FF9 used it as the name for its world? I think it did.
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>>34318877
And also FF7
https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Gaia
Don't know.

I still prefer Equus since it is original name.
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>>34317916
my understanding of it is that the villain trio wanted to bypass the princesses and just divide equestria and all surrounding land into three kingdoms for each one, using the power of friendship! but then they are encased in stone for not using friendship to extend the goals of those princesses

bad ending really
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>>34196514
Did Little Strongheart even show up in the finale, or any buffalo for that matter?
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>>34280431
>Le RedDIt TwITteR normalfag speak
Die.
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>>34274358
>"I-I'm not like those racist /pol/tards u guise!!"
Die.
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>>34280632
Timestamp of Lyra and Bon Bon getting married?
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>>34280433
IKTF
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