I fucking hate s9 facial animations.
>>33837578I fucking wish facial animations were the worst thing about season 9.
>>33837579They are pretty high up there. Even with garbage plots you can still enjoy cute ponies doing cute things. Now not only there are barely any ponies across screen time, those who are there are these mutilated versions. It looks like some fan animation.
>>33837579>Season had two bad episodes therefore it's the worst season ever.Gas all doomfags.
>>33837584First the cute ponies stopped doing cute things and started doing retarded things instead.Then we started getting less and less cute ponies.Now the few and far between cute ponies aren't even cute anymore.It's not fair.
>>33837594Only background ponies remain pure and cute.
Milf episode was better
>>33837578They started reveling in those new lower angle faces, but I can't get used to them. And the switch from the standard looks to the new ones is jarring.
>>33837629These aren't muzzles anymore, just a nose and a mouth. Animators don't care. I'm glad this show is going to end soon, by the end of S9 there will be nothing left of "ponies" in it.
>>33837635Yeah, it just looks flat, like it might as well be a regular human-ish face with eyes up front and a nose.The shitty thing is they even tried praising this with Twilight's Seven, how the storyboarders and animators went all out etc. etc. and how it's cool they have more assets and face angles, which it is, it just isn't as cool when your new assets are neither cute nor pony.
>>33837578It's not that bad.
I hope Jim is reading this.
>>33837629>>33837635Someone already mentioned it after the first trailer, for some reason they're trying to copy the style of the movie, where they have these tiny muzzles.But, for fuck's sake, in the movie the nose and the mouth were attached, they were part of a whole. In the show they're copying the vague idea of a small nose, but it's completely detached from the mouth, and it all looks completely wrong.It reminds me of the broken hindlegs many artists draw in the fandom, they know that ponies have some kind of lump back there, but they don't know how legs work, and end up drawing legs that don't make any fucking sense with a misplaced lump. Here the animators are drawing a face with a small nose and they don't even know what that small nose is supposed to be. It's painful to see professional artists being so incredibly bad at their work.
>Tell people they will not have a job after this version of the show>Expecting them to do good work once you tell them thatWhy should DHX give a shit? They don't have to try anymore.>>33837669See above. They still had hope for most of the movies production that they would keep the Hasbro contract I guess.
>>33837669>It's painful to see professional artists being so incredibly bad at their work.Remember, these people are getting payed for this shit. Just as the writers are for their drivel.
>>33837676I wonder if it's either incompetence or a lack of caring.
>>33837669>It's painful to see professional artists being so incredibly bad at their work.>posts rarity HA!
>>33837578Reminder that This cunt fucked up Yona in this episode.
>>33837674>Why should DHX give a shit?But I do agree. If I were working for DHX and I had read the leaks showing that I'm going to lose my job, I wouldn't give a fuck about this, and I'd do the cheapest possible job.But here they're going out of their way to draw all these new broken faces. They could have simply reused old assets, like they've done more than once, but they're actually putting effort into it. Why? What's the fucking point? It's preposterous.
yo someone change a picture of an IRL pony to have that stupid button nose instead of a horsely muzzle
It's a different studio now.
>>33837678I think it's the latter. I highly doubt that "keeping things pony" is a high priority for anyone involved, especially now that ponies aren't always the focus. It's not a matter of competence but of direction and involvement. None does anything above bare minimum, that's normal, it's just that minimum seems at the all time low.
Isn't the actual animation done by Philippine Top Draw Animation and DHX only produces storyboards and directs the process? Pretty sure that all the storyboards are done already and DHX nearly finished their job.
>>33837691It's pretty sad to see that the animation quality has gone up over the years but the style has only went down in consistency.
>>33837686Yona fucked up yona.>rarity mentions making dresses>yona freaks out from just that after rarity leaves>yona no can wear what yona always wear?>"yona- I mean you could, but ___ is all about a tradition">"at an elegant affair like a pony dance bla bla bla"What's your argument here?
>>33837698It's odd, because for the writing staff there's definitely a misplaced belief in their own skill.
>Bitching about the animation of all thingsGosh doomfags are utterly and completely pathetic
>>33837578You mean... like this?
>>33837746Ironic shitposting is still shitposting.But you made me laugh.
>>33837756that's an example of the mouth staying attached to the nose
S2 introduced meme reactions with Lesson Zero and human-like faces with Find a Pet song and things only went downhill from there.
standing and posing on two legs is a bigger issue than meme faces
>>33837803I think it stems from a similar issue of not giving a shit about ponies being ponies.
>>33837803it's possible to be frustrated with more than one thing at any given moment in time
>>33837578finally someone said it, thet're awful and ugly
>>33837803having slightly smaller noses, good-enough lip-motion, and expressive past normal faces isn't quite meme-faces.But also yeah those were fun maybe three times.
>>33837791It's ironic that the ponies looked cuter when they had limited resources.>>33837803These aren't meme faces, but agreed.
>>33837819>the ponies looked cuter when they had limited resourcesi will argue, until my dying breath, that giving characters exactly what they want, as part of a regular standard episode, is a foolish, dumb, stupid, wrong idea>fluttershy is always kinda queasy around other ponies/new situations>rainbow 'giant cunt' dash is always looking to join the wonderbolts>the cutie mark crusaders haven't had their marks yetetc etc. otherwise you get LORE and WORLDBUILDING morons, with rotting worm-infested brains, who want prestige television on a toy company budget and, well, here we are
>>33837819what's the text from, anyway
>>33837819Early show's pacing, use of music, cuts and composition were also born of a simpler and more limited approach. They could afford to space things out, to spend a few minutes just talking to each other with nothing really happening. These days a lot of the times the episodes pacing suffers from cramming a lot of things that resolves on a dime later, like it's some sort of an ADHD race to the finish. In the end things become watered down a bit too much sometimes.
>>33837830Fuck off Lily.
>>33837844i don't know who that is. sorry
>>33837841I think it's from one of the movie books, but I'm not sure.
Unpopular opinion: I like the new meme faces because they bring fresh wind into what has suffered from the copy-paste syndrome way too much. It's refreshing to see these new faces and they fit the old style pretty well (thanks to the Movie).The problem of standing on two legs, however ... shitty animators for a shitty company. You get what you pay.
I'm pretty sure they're going more in line with the animatics now, really. The faces in those are always way more dynamic than what the final product ends up as.
>>33837819>it's a rule we will continue to enforce for as long as we make the showThiessen's last involvement with the franchise was the movie. It's not a surprise that the entire movie had less human poses that one random minute of any current episode.
>puking dog reaction gif
>>33837866Took the words right out of my mouth.
>>33837629This image hurts.>>33837819>Keep it pony.Why is something so fucking simple so fucking hard for this assholes.>>33837866Thats not an unpopular opinion, you just have objectively bad taste.You dont solve copy paste syndrome by adding something worse.
It's not the fault of animators it's the new storyboard artist
>>33837908>you just have objectively bad tasteYou're objectively a waste of resources you fucking cum waste.
>>33837927look at this bullshit
>>33837938>Eddy dresses up as a pony so the guys from cul-de-sac pay him for cuddlesThat's probably his best scam.
>>33837870This is what I'm talking about. If they went with the animatic more, we'd have meme faces every few seconds.
>>33837941Fuck you now I can't unsee it.
>>33837578I hate the story and story editing of S9
>>33837927>>33837938>>33837946Funnily enough, the mouth is attached to the nose in all these storyboards.It's true that we didn't see storyboards of the last episode, but it's funny that even these allegedly shitty storyboards respect muzzles more than the atrocious mouths in >>33837629.
>>33837938Luckily they don't follow the storyboards down to a tee. Or used to, at least?>>33837946That's terrifying.
>animators gave an improvement in quality>4chan-faggots be like - "UGH WHERE IS THE OLD FACES"Aside from the memes, you're the worst kind of whinging assholes.
>>33837927This one doesn't even appear in the episode at all>>33837973/)
>>33837959The most recent we got was as a teaser for the opener.https://youtu.be/Ok85eoChCB4
>>33837979I'm fucking not, now call me a redditor or something.
>>33837979Oh fuck off you doomfags are the invaders coming from /mlpol/
>>33837995redditor or something.
>>33837985But that storyboard has muzzles too.Anyway, it doesn't really solve the mystery, that scene is from 902, and that episode had different storyboardershttps://mlp.fandom.com/wiki/The_Beginning_of_the_End_-_Part_2However, 901 and yesterday's episode had the same storyboardershttps://mlp.fandom.com/wiki/The_Beginning_of_the_End_-_Part_1https://mlp.fandom.com/wiki/She%27s_All_YakThere are storyboards from 901, and the ponies have muzzles here. I don't think we can blame the storyboarders for the detached mouths.
>>33837876I think it was also the loss of Sibsy.
>>33838016Where? To the past?
>>33838055No, to Reddit
>>33837995You're a something.
>>33837938>>33837941>>33837960>"...Ed, your story's getting weird."SOMEONE DO THIS
>>33838058>unpopular opinion == redditorAs I thought.
>>33838065This board got featured, that's why you're all here.You can leave now, thanks.
>>33837756So like here.
>>33837578yeah whatever nobody cares. There's plenty to hate but the faces are the least of my concern. Actually some of them are a nice addition.
>>33838011Yeah, I don't think the storyboarders are to blame here either. This is on the animation studio, their directors and MLP's directors in general, if you wanna point a finger. Someone up there could've prevented this.
>>33837973fuck off please
>>33837866This. Hell in just this recent one we've gotten some pretty improved multi angle faces just in Sandbar's asking out scene.Have to link due to file size crap. https://derpicdn.net/img/view/2019/5/12/2036838.gif
>>33837938>>33837946To be fair, storyboarding is not about creating an accurate visual representation of the final product. It's about capturing the intent and emotion of a scene so that it should be clear and unmistakable.Turning the storyboard into the actual visual style of the show is the animators' job. If anything goes wrong there, it's their fault.
>>33838089Didn't know they hired Braeburned.
>>33837946The storyboards were always like this but the actual faces changed for the worse with time. Animators are the faggots here.
>>33838089nigga this shit looks hideous
>>33838098>>33838093Holy shit it does.
>>33838098It really does. What the fuck, man.
my deformed pony
>>33838141turn your monitor on
>>33837578We call them memefaces because that's what they are.
>>33837746Get a life you faggoted Glimmernigger. Your mary sue waifu was the final nail in this show's coffin.
>>33838098To be fair stallion muzzles are fucking awful.
>>33837578wow it's like a minimalist 2d artsyle can't handle 3d elements when animators attempt to apply them and people are just realizing mlp's character design has always been pretty shit
>>33838098>>33838089What's so bad about this? I'd fuck it
>>33838175that's because they're more accurate looking to irl horses. mares were purposely dumbed down to look cute
>>33838186>3d elementsFuck off
At least this issue became prevalant in the last season and not really anywhere else
>>33838098Looks pretty cute, what's the problem exactly?
>>33838262I can tolerate it for meme faces, especially for characters I do not care about.
>cartoons behave like cartoonsretards btfod
>>33837578They finally did it, they ruined the last thing that Hasdrones desperately clinged to when defending the new seasons.Now there are not even cute ponies doing cute things anymore.>>33837629This is really disgusting to look at.
Just stopping by to remind this autismo town that the only problem this show has is bad writing. Everything else is consistently decent to great throughout all the 9 seasons.
>>33838278>>33837629I honestly think thesse still look cute.Some of these even look absolutely normal?Like the picture in>>33837629 towards the bottom with Rarity with her eyes widened, what's wrong there? I really don't see the issue in that one, the bottom pictures look absolutely fine.
>>33838277>everyone cartoon is Looney TunesRemember when Pinkie Pie was special?
>>33838286She's still "special" if you know what I mean, all right.
>>33838286I don't care much
>>33838289Then don't waste 4chan's bandwidth with your posts
Absolutely disgusting, it's so fucking gross looking, look at this shit.
>>33837629>the entire bottom row looks completely normalGod doomfags are really trying waaay too hard.
What the fuck is up with their muzzles
>>33838283>the bottom pictures look absolutely fine.That's the point, "the switch from the standard looks to the new ones is jarring." The bottom ones are the absolutely fine faces, they're there for comparison because those are only a couple frames before/after the upper half ones, they transition from one to another.
Fuck these meme faces and these muzzles.
>>33838293asshurt a bit aren't you.
>>33838303>>33838298I don't see how you can even compare.>>33838089>>33837640>>33837629>>33838308This one is the only one that fits with your "critique" and it was so rare it was a special occasion.
I actually like the creative liberties the animators are taking with facial expressions, they look good in action and communicate personality and emotion without being over-the-top (most of the time), which is critically important in cases like yesterday’s episode, where the script writers seemingly went out of their way to avoid showcasing any personality from anyone except Rainbow Dash and Spike. The overemphasis on bipedalism is a different story, but that’s always been a problem, and it’s ultimately a minor gripe.
>>33838283Just curious, how many posts ITT defending these atrocities are from you?
>>33837629I'm really annoyed by this small nose and flat cheeks, I decided to make a paintover, I think it looks a bit better but I prefer my ponies with cheeks. The far right bottom was the one that really bothered me.I don't know much about puppet animation but I wish they weren't looking like human horse aliens
I'm just here to say that this thread is the most embarassing one I've seen in a whileAnd I fucking hate Season 8 and 9, you faggots are taking up-close screencaps of scenes where characters are moving their heads rapidly during a conversation and going ape-shit over few frames looking bad to you.>>33838341THAT looks fucking hideous, are you fucking kidding me.
>>33838333>The overemphasis on bipedalism is a different story, but that’s always been a problem, and it’s ultimately a minor gripe.Bullshit. It's the law broken. Just like never showing PPG from the side which the new show constantly breaks, and worse for it. In the end it's not about one particular problem but laziness. They are lazy. Animators, writers.
>>33838089This animation is actually really good save for those retarded hand-like hoof movements.
>>33838341Better, but now she looks like a Filly Funtasia character.
>>33838333>they look goodthey don't, full stop>communicate personality and emotion The old ones did as well, reading facial expressions was not once an issue in all past seasons. They didn't fix any problem, they just made it look worse.>overemphasis on bipedalism [...] ultimately a minor gripenot any more minor than ugly faces, the difference between bipedal and quadrupedal greatly affects ponies' mannerism
>>33838350Bipedalism is the only area where the animators have really been lazy this season though. Everything else seems like they actually tried to make it as good as possible.
>>33838341I'd say you fixed some of the poses, but now the Rarity on the right comes from CalArts hell.
>>33838358And that's a good thing!
>>33838333>The overemphasis on bipedalism is a different story, but that’s always been a problem, and it’s ultimately a minor gripe.It was really bad in this last episode, and has been on another level during S8 and S9>Trixie moonwalking>Rarity's power poses>all dances, scene transitions, and musical numbers are done with the characters on their rear hooves>the mouth is rarely used to pick up and move thingsI am peeved, do you understand? PEEVED.It's obvious the animation has been changing and while change isn't always bad and some of it can even be seen as improvement, they are losing a vital part of what separates the characters of this show from any other series.
>>33838369>they don’tI disagree, but that’s your opinion so whatever>The old ones did as wellThe old ones had a great range of emotion, sure, but they were supplemented by a usable script. The extended range of mouth movements when detached from the muzzle (very slightly, mind you; It’s tough to notice in motion in the first place) convey precise tones that the scripts for the Student Six episodes refuse to and that couldn’t be done quite as cleanly by abiding to the mouth-muzzle rule in every single frame.>the difference... greatly affects ponies’ mannerismYou’re right, but I personally care about stuff like that relative to how well they work in the episode, and it rarely even ruins a scene, let alone the full product.
>>33838344>you faggots are taking up-close screencaps of scenes where characters are moving their heads rapidly during a conversation and going ape-shit over few frames looking bad to you.yeah, you can barely notice it, it's just a couple of frames, haha
>tmw your incredibly subtle scripts call for such a wide array of emotions that you have to break the characters' anatomy completely to be able to show them on screen
>>33838414My point is that the script doesn’t include any emotion so the animators have to do it themselves.
>>33838408>levitation surrounds the entire object>object is still animated as if it's pinched by its corners and the middle section droopsFucking disgusting
>>33838408Now that you posted this, I finally figured it out.She looks awful because the retarded mouths and the spherical head make her look like one of those hideous emojis. She's literally a fucking emoji with pony ears.
there's just no Faust there anymore to caremiller/mccarthy give ZERO fucks
>>33838395>I am peeved, do you understand? PEEVEDC-c-calm down there pal. It's okay.
>>33838298are you retarded? that's the complete opposite of the problem outlined ITT
>>3383847710/10 you lads cracked the code>>33838483I was thinking he just posted that as a reaction gif?
>>33838477this would be really hilarious if it wasn't so fucking sad
Having this poor of a taste.
>>33838477Thanks, i hate it
>>33837602is that pinkie clone from manehattan?
Fuck, After reading all the comments in this thread I feel awkward to every pony faces in Season 9.
>>33838578I feel very awkward about your retarded color correction you've got going on
>>33838578fix your fucking codecs faggot it looks so dark and depressing
>>33838578Some animators know how to have fun without turning pony faces into something they're not supposed to be.
>>33838625She actually has a muzzle here. How did the Rarity/Yona scene turn out so fucking bad?
>>33838636ep 200 was special and more effort went into it, or so someone (Miller?) gushed on twitter about it.
>>33838636Maybe it's different people animating different episodes?
>>33837946Holy shit those heads.
>>33838687Storyboards aren't meant to be show accurate.
Jesus fuck this the most embarrassing thread I've ever seen in this board, this is even more pathetic than /a/fags sperging over still frames of animation.
>>33838687what exactly is the problem here? It looks cute.
>>33838704Why do you keep posting this like anyone is going to listen to you, you dumb fuck.
>>33838704Did you really you read the entire thread only to make a thread ignoring what people actually were discussing here, and using a strawman instead? >>33838702
>>33838713Nothing, I just want to know who has this style, love their storyboards.
>>33838728Dunno but I can do similar or at least I did before my tablet broke.
>>33838704>no new IPstay mad
Sibsy was the only good story board artist
>>33838748I can't believe it's 2019 and we're now missing sibsy
>>33838748I bet she draws pony porn for Mando
>Another Doomfaggotry threadThis thread needs to be purged.
>>33838753I started missing her once she stopped being fat and ugly.
>>33838334And how many of you dumbfucks are there that don't understand how animation works and are just being entitled cynical pricks?
S8 and S9 confirmed for shittiest episodesI at least enjoy majority of this show unlike most of you, who hate most of it, but still, these latest episodes have been a pain.
>he's still going
>>33838795I meant seasons, sorry, I am tired.But yeah, fuck these seasons and fuck anyone who defends these shitty muzzles
The extra-nuanced question; is why have their snouts retracted into their heads? They look shaped like a circle more frequently than the proper shape.
why do harmless meme faces make doomfags so butthurt?
>>33838753You drove her off with fat jokes and memes
>>33838785Please enlighten us then on "how animation works" and why S9 is worse than S1 despite being 8 years older
>>33838773We had more doomfaggotry than in S8. Seems like this seasons isn't that exciting.
The only seasons worth watching>S1>S2>S4>S5>S7Skip the rest, not even important
>>33838814S8 introduced the students and gave Maud a fucking boyfriend, it was an utter disaster that made people justifiably angered. It was cancer.
>>33838809DHX drove her off by being slave drivers that don't pay a living wage but try to make up for it by putting ping pong tables in the office that you have to spend 22 hour days in. The fact that she went to fucking Disney should show how shit DHX is.
>>33838814>We had more doomfaggotry than in S8.We had more Doomfaggotry because /pol/ were brigarding and seething over the friendship school and "muh diversity".
>>33838395Who the FUCK let Shinzakura near the show animation?
>>33838832No, it was the worst season of the fucking show with the worst episodes of the fucking show>Maud Couple>That retarded episode with AJ and RD>The whole student school>Students saving the day
>>33838477Send this to Jim.
>>33838843Post on derpibooru.
>>33838843"Hey @TheBiggestJim as a fan of the emoji movie I really love the new animation style of this season. Really easy to make and imitate " How about this? Any mistake? I'm a ESLfag
>>33838892>three dislikes alreadyAlso, anon, you dumb faggot, post the explaniation in the description next time, whatever.
>>33837629>being rarifag is pure suffering nowWhy are they doing THIS to us in a fucking FINAL season.
>>33838907Just do it faggot
>This threadBarneyfag was right
>>33838930>>33838966https://twitter.com/Iros45475428/status/1127639113031663618He will probably ignore it anyway
>>33838979What's his cum taste like bro?
>>33838477This shit isn't even accurate all. Can't believe there are those that retarded that think this shit.
>>33838915BASED The Smiling Pony
>>33839009Guys, guys.Maybe it's just rarity?Does any other character do this? S9 or anywhere else?Investigate, thanks
>>33837870god damn that fuckin cute
>>33837803Trixie did that in S1 though. It’s overused now but some twolegging should be allowed.
>>33839143Rarity also did that in S2 when she kicked opened Sweetie's doors, there are probably more examples throughout S1 and S2.
>>33837640Fucking christ this looks like it's from Ed Edd n Eddy...
>>33839181that's why its good
>>33839021Pinkie has been doing this for 5 seasons now.Observe Silverstream at thread start. POOODEEENG and FOREVVVVURRRR face from Twilight...this is an epidemic.
>>33839188All of these instances were brief or for comedy, with Rarity it happened duringa casual covnesration
>>33838302They’re the comparison point you dingus. Those are old-style faces. Admittedly the image should be better labelled.
>>33839188That was Pinkie Pie's gimmick yes.
>>33837579what is so bad about s9 thus far?I wanna trust you but it's hard to not just dismiss you as another nostalgiafag
>>33837908>objectively bad tasteHoly shit
>>33839204E3 is fucking abysmal, maybe the worst episode ever madethe rest are good though
>>33839255>E3 is fucking abysmal, maybe the worst episode ever madeMaud Couple says hi
>>33839198I threw it together for a quick comparison for my post skimming through the episode, not as an actual infopicthis topic honestly blew up more than I expected it would>>33839188that's comedic cartoony exaggerations aka memefaces they do for fun, this is different and only started getting prominent use
*dabs on doomfaggots and Lee*
>>33839255Yeah, not a fan of the 6 creatures either
This is not a meme face, it's an improvement in animation. Accentuates a bit more that pony faces are actually elongated, not flat. They're horses, ffs.Too bad so late, we're just not used to it. I, for one, still appreciate it.
>>33839498A man with taste, finally.
>>33838089>>33838098postable versionwhat a qt
>>33839498It looks like she just has a regular human nose. Go watch EqG if that’s what you like, pleb.
>>33839498>Accentuates a bit more that pony faces are actually elongated, not flat. They're horses, ffs.how? the exact opposite of what you said is true
>>33839498It's literally a fucking sphere.
>>33839498>improvement in animationDo you actually believe that or do you just feel obliged to say it, because this looks fucking awful and absolutely nothing like anything that exists in real life.
Op here after 12 hours. Lmao i see the thread took off a bit
>>33839498>accentuates a bit more that pony faces are actually elongated>by shrinking the muzzle down to a little nose, unlike the regular muzzle protruding from the round shape
>>33839605Rainbows won't light up the sky unless you let it rain
>>33839566Good thread, OP.
>>33838477Kek but also horrifying
>>33838278They look like Greg's art style. Like undeveloped fetuses.Meanwhile the storyboards look like Apple.mov
>>33839540Is this cel-shaded 3D?
>>33839839>Meanwhile the storyboards look like Apple.movthat's an apt description
>>33838408>old pony mouths have to deal with seeing past the mouth>old pony mouths squash and stretch the lips but have to keep in line with the faces>old pony mouths have the chin move>these pony mouths are smack dab on the face, no need to worry about negative space>these pony mouths are "on top" of the face and barely interact with the overall shape of the face>these pony mouths do not move the chinit looks like someone decided to try to implement a simpler animation model so they don't have to work as hard to rig the mouths.
>>33839789https://derpibooru.org/2037613Even the derpicuck like your edit
>>33837946>>33837927>>33837938The animatics are cute desu. If g5 was animated in a similar style it'd be a plus for me
>>33839204The last two episodes have been below average, with the later being an absolute trash spike-at-your-service-tier.The opener is pretty good and ep. 200 is one of the better episodes in the series.
>>33838477Why did you do this?
>>33839789This shouldn't have been so unambiguously better
they've been doing this (minimal muzzle, rounded faces) since at least season 5. not saying it's a good choice but you could at least find something else to complain about>>33838477holy lel
>>33838432>>33838477Fuck, you're right!>>33838341I like their heads to look like less of a plain circle too, but I think doing just the snout edits would have made your point better. Still, good job!>>33837629She looks like she's actually got a human nose on the third pic.
>>33837578I like them quite a bit
>>33839008People are just super hyperbolic, ignore it and hide this thread once you've got your two cents in.
>>33837629WHAT THE FUCK WHY ARE THEY MAKING MY WIFE LOOK LIKE SHIIIITHOLD ME RARABROS
>>33840046>>33839008you look a bit... madhave you been taking your medication? you know what happens when you dont take your medication
>>33837602Why do they have the same cutiemark?
>>33840061Of all things, I've been wondering about this all day too.Maybe shared cutie marks like with the CWC?
>>33840053your wife is a human nowcry, humanfucker
>>33840120I will kill them all and myself in a blood fueled genocide rampage before I let them turn our beloved ponies into humans.
>>33840120they can't just do thatthe third-worlders already have eqg
>>33840133and you have your autism
>>33840161>they have that soulless school photo as a referenceit all makes sense now
>>33839789>when amateurs are beating the fuck out of the "professionals">yet againWhy is the entire entertainment industry so fucked up?
>>33837946That looks quite a lot like Max's facial style.Oh dear.
>>33837946is it me or does that animatic look like calarts?
This is from season 1 episode 3, I never want to hear you guys complain about season 8/9 "rulebreaking" ever again.
>>33840625Looks soulless to me
>>33837946I feel like this is the beginning of a stonetoss comic
>>33840642>S1>soullessend yourself, hasdrone
>>33840650Ok but this is the scene where twilight displays the mega-ass.
>>33840650>corporate show made to sell you pony toys>soul
>>33840689>corporate showLauren made it, not hasbro
>>33840698>lauren made it after her original idea of planets girls didn't worked
>>33840703This. And then she went right back to the same shit with the DC super hero girls bullshit. She worked on FiM because she had no other choice.
>>33840703>>33840713>Overlays the FIM aesthetic on her original idea, while still keeping the heart, discipline and soul in her team.Oh look, the autists defending the animation this season over on DB have shown up.Eat shit and die.>That somehow makes it soulless.
>>33840650>>33840698God these are so cool. Are there any more of these out there?
>>33837629>>33837635Can someone show some side by side comparisons of "old" and "new" styles of how they do faces so I can see what you're all talking about?I don't have an eye for detail, so I honestly can't tell from memory alone what's different. I just know ponies by their color schemes.I do get the exaggerated features of how they make "meme faces" but I don't know what this apparent structural difference is.
>>33841255It may be confusing because that anon didn't label the screencaps.The top row is the new style they never used before until this season. The bottom row is the old style, they still use it, that's why all the screencaps are from the same episode.In the old style the faces had a protruding muzzle, with the mouth and nose together, because they're horse-like. The new style is just a tiny nose in the middle of the face, completely detached from the mouth.
>>33841258The new style is Alcor style.Why does everyone love his porn, again?
>>33841262Now they can say that it's show-accurate.
>>33837629These genuinely look as uncanny and ugly as Greg's art style.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=573zsc6ZuhQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGRVptY-fVshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXEL-DT7inQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2C_fKzmdmA
>>33837659I hope Jim is choking to death on a million dicks.
>>33840619And I never want to hear you technically and facetiously lie again unless you're willing to get ass raped in your own basement by a team of mooks.
>>33841262It's sad when second tier porn is more close to model than what's actually airing. Like if Mittsies horrible drawing style was in the show.
>>33840619>grabbing a frame from the middle of a rapid motionnigga plz
>>33841275>Greg started his abridged series as a parody with exaggeratedly dumb personalities>the actual characters in the show became parodies of themselves with exaggeratedly dumb personalities>Greg dropped the use of actual footage and started using crudely drawn copies of the characters instead>the actual characters in the show became crudely drawn copies of themselves as wellI-is it a curse? Did Greg doom the show?
>>33841286Greg was always right. He may be a pretentious sperg but he was never wrong.
>>33841255I don't have any side-by-sides, but here are some S1-specific expressions that were mostly replaced later. I actually thought about doing a comparison like that some time, but chances are people already done this.
>>33841489I honestly missed twilight's sidemouth
>>33837578Go rewatch S1 and stay in your containment thread, oldfag.
>>33837578I haven’t seen season 9 but from what i’ve seen from the images, I don’t see a problem with the faces.
>>33841244why yes there arethey were leaked... some time ago
>>33841489I was honestly waiting for someone to post the other collage I did years ago by nowslightly upset at how the resolution shrank and got compressed with jpg, who the fuck did that
>>33837938>MLP/Ed, Edd and Eddy crossoverI need thisI really do
>>33842774>Ed Edd and Eddy crossoverThis is the best i could find anonhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhpdMx_iu58
>>33843471>inb4 le meme faces benpis :^))))
>>33843471This is MY horse
>>33841970I don't even want to know what Twi's profile shot on the lower right would look like with the new pig noses.
>>33841489You could make these up to S8, they looked fine until season 9 decided to rape
>>33841631More like, you go back to EqD This is the only place that actually critics the show, you have many others for your safe space nigger
>>33844236>critics>+90% of them are just "noo i don't like things it hurt muh autism rrreeeeeeeee" shitposting
>>33839498Honestly, I like the fact that they're making them more expressive, but they just can't fucking do that without sacrificing the aesthetic appeal. Whether due to incompetence clearly or pony design just not functioning that way, a more expressive cast just won't work.
>>33845114>and the remaining 10% is just the same autistic asshole spamming the board with "d-dont be a negative nancy, stop criticrizing things, lower ur standards, SHADDAP THE SHOW IS GREAT, GREAT!!!!" infantile bullshit because he wants to turn this place into another safespace for himself
>>33837938How? How the fuck do you end up passing out storyboards that look like a fan parody as legit?
>>33840619What the fuck is wrong with spike.
Op here again after 3 days. Lmao it keeps going
>>33846278fuck off op you faggot
>>33838728It honestly looks like hotdiggetydaemon's style toned down a tad.I seriously wonder to myself if they hired him on sometimes.
ITT: Autismos complain about their cartoons looking cartoony.
>>33844236criticizing the show? as in, every single bit of it? sounds like compensation for the lack of criticism elsewhere rather than geniuine dissatisfaction.>>33845154exactly>>33845154yes, because criticizing is literally all that happens around here in terms of show discussion. you acn't say you like literally anything about any new episode without being called out for it, which is just the inverse of the no-negative censorship elsewhere. How is no-positive any more useful or interesting than no-negative, tell me that? This has been going on every season, but it has amped up to ridiculous levels this last couple of months.
>>33838378> no butt crackhow am I supposed to fap to that?
>>33846849Bullshit. Make a good episode get a good review it's not hard.
>>33837946>expressive drawing is "meme faces">I much prefer my stiff flash tweeningChrist. You people should never watch Ren and Stimpy.
>>33846849>yes, because criticizing is literally all that happens around here in terms of show discussion. you acn't say you like literally anything about any new episode without being called out for it, which is just the inverse of the no-negative censorship elsewhere. How is no-positive any more useful or interesting than no-negative, tell me that? This has been going on every season, but it has amped up to ridiculous levels this last couple of months.yeah because when E200 released it wasn't widely praised and literally everybody loved it right? it's almost like you're spouting bullshit and when an episode is shit people don't like it. novel concept.
>>33846930Shock value and unsettling lack of coherency and presence of extreme and mildly insane emotion are the staples of ren and stimpy. That lack of comfort is the source of the humor and is exactly what the audience is there for.In short, it's fitting. Not only that, but they are willing to actually go the distance by creating custom animations with basically no limitations.
>>33837629Looks like that dogshit pony comic artist that makes them look like dough creatures.
>>33837803HUMAN POSES AAAAAHHH
lf I’m being honest. a lot of things doomfags bring up are true and they make some good points (not all), but for me, none of it is enough to detract from my enjoyment of the show for whatever reason. When I notice something weird or odd about the animation or writing I go “huh, that’s kind of annoying I guess” but I’ve still unironically enjoyed most of season 8 and 9 so far. Maybe it’s because I just don’t take it as seriously as a lot of doomfags do. I love this show and have since 2011, maybe the overall impact of this show on my life has been so positive and joyful that I’m more laid back about writing fuckups. If the show ended tomorrow, and all we had was seasons 1-8 and the current episodes of 9, I’d still rate the series overall a 9/10 at least, even with the missteps in later seasons.But that’s just my opinion.
>>33838303If you told me what species that was, id say pig.
>>33838408She looks like a pig, not a pony.
>>33839009TH-THEY'RE FAKE? BLASPHEME!
>>33847265I'm tired of idiots shitting up every thread responding to even the mildest criticism of anything with mountains of autistic screeching about "doomfags."
>>33847265I still love the series too, but there's also no reason to turn a blind eye on its flaws. If we don't care about the quality of the show and just say "whatever, it doesn't matter" then there won't be anyone left to care about the show at all, because its staff certainly doesn't anymore.
>>33847265What the fuck does this have to do with the shitty animations? Do you deluded retards actually believe every criticism of the show is part of some "doomfag" conspiracy to curb your enjoyment? You're a fucking schizo.
>>33847265>>33847396this. Faust wanted this show to be the best girls cartoon ever because girls deserve quality, if we ignore its flaws and say "good enough" what kind of cunts will we be
>>33847348>mildest criticism of anythingmore like comprehensive, hardcore criticism of everything. there is a complaint thread for every possible thing that could be wrong with a TV show on this board right now. again, go back to watching the seasons you like and doing your board-wide/fan-art stuff instead of shitting up the seasons you hate for the few people who still enjoy it. the show won't improve and liking it for what it once was isn't a valid reason to get mad at it non-stop for not being that anymore, especially as it only makes everyone angry and helps nobody and changes nothing.>>33846897name me the last good episode that doesn't get called shit by a bunch of people eventuallythere are always MULTIPLE people here who hate everything>>33846960it literally wasn't, people started shitting on it almost as soon as it finished airing. i have nothing wrong with a few people not liking it, but this happens with every single episode for the last, what, 5 years or so? the number of people who like it is vastly overestimated because the people who hate it are less vocal. it wasn't liked much at all.>>33847396if all it is is flaws, then why not turn a blind eye? how does it help the show to 'care' by pointing out that it's trash? you're literally just breaking apart the show discussion and what little creativity is left by doing that, that DEFINITELY isn't caring about the show.>>33847455>every fifth thread is a doomfag threadyes, yes i do. not even that same anon. if you criticize literally every part of the show and completely fill the board with it, then you ARE curbing enjoyment of it, massively. this is worse than the glimmer invaders from discord.>>33848040cunts who know when to say bye. who don't invest ourselves into a lost cause or a sinking ship if we believe it to be so, because that's pointless and self-harming.
>>33848072>name me the last good episode that doesn't get called shit by a bunch of people eventuallyTwilight's SevenPoint of No Return
>>33848072>e200>it wasn't liked much at all.now you're being disingenuous. /mlp/ polls rated it at an average of 9/10how was that "not liked much at all"? Maybe you need to lay off your pills, "doomfags" you made up in your mind are driving you crazy
>>33847265Sounds good, now post it as an editorial to EQD.
>>33848072>if all it is is flawsI never said that.>how does it help the show to 'care' by pointing out that it's trash?Nothing we do help anything, anon, we're just discussing a show.>you're literally just breaking apart the show discussion and what little creativity is left by doing thatHow the fuck did you get that? If I think something sucks ass I'll call it out and explain why I think so. That is literally show discussion. And creativity? What does that have to do with anything? You seem to be hellbent on "everyone who isn't praising the show=doomfag ruining everything" point of view, for someone who allegedly doesn't take the show seriously you're quick to condemn people whose opinions you don't even know just because they say they're not 100% happy with the show's direction.
>>33848072>by discussing the show you're breaking apart the show discussionso what do you want, then, a sad circlejerk of disingenuous people that just talks about how good the show still is and how cute the ponies are after every episode without ever pointing out anything negative?have you tried ponychan?
>>33848072Imagine actually caring more about what people post in a Javanese square-dancing gazette than about the show itself.Literal.Fan.Of.The.Fandom.
>>33837629Some of these are nice. Others are really weird though. I would really like to see Jim talk a bit about their thought process behind this new face rig, could anyone send him a non-memey tweet about that?
>>33848131Don't send them to Ponychan, some people might still discuss the show there!Equestria Daily is the place for "negativity (and r34) from fans is the only bad thing that's remotely connected to MLP"
>>33848072>name me the last good episode that doesn't get called shit by a bunch of people eventuallyEverything gets called shit by a bunch of people eventually, it's not this board's specific problem and there's no point in trying to fight it. The overwhelming majority of this board liked Twilight's Seven, Best Gift Ever and Sounds of Silence, all recent episodes.
>>33847265>If the show ended tomorrow, and all we had was seasons 1-8 and the current episodes of 9, I’d still rate the series overall a 9/10 at leastlol
>>33848730Clearly, the board has shit taste.
>>33848072>more like comprehensive, hardcore criticism of everything.Bull fucking shit. You can't even write a one line post about something obviously objectively bad without some screaming mongoloid shitting up the place with doomfag buzzwords like you're personally responsible for whoever pissed in their cornflakes that morning.
>>33848823only based reply to my post
>>33847265>I'm not bothered by FIM being shit because I don't care about FIM.At least this shill is honest.
>>33848092>both of these had two or three threads that criticized every bit of them and compared them to similar episodesriiight...>>33848099pollvoters are mostly shills and lurkers, we're talking about people who actually post here reguarly>>33848108I observed that it is only flaws. And the other anon apparently thinks caring about the show matters so I don't know. And yes, it's fine to be mad about one or two things, but then so many are mad that basically everything gets called shit and the sum total of that is the episode is shit, which is what people take away when everything is criticized.>>338481314chan is objectively the best site.>most free speech>best memes>best shitposting>you can actually insult people>/pol/ posters and other visitors to make it interestingliterally any other site is shit by comparison, I don't even wanna go there.>>33848143Imagine wanting to share your opinion on what's good and bad and be insulted for giving the premier a 6/10 or the yak episode a 3/10. Like holy hell, I don't do 1s and 10s. Except Quibble, 0/10 cringe. Either you love everything or you hate everything, what the fuck. Can't enjoy the show if my opinion is immediately overwritten or tainted.Also, what exactly is bad about being a fan of the fandom? The fandom is often better than the show, and muh canon will not save you now once the show ends.>>33848508Equestria Daily is boring AF from screencaps I've seen, and they do still criticize as well as praise way too much, like holy hell some episodes are just mediocre 4/10s, live with it.>>33848730How does this explain the people who dislike it managing to dislike every single bit of it cumulatively?>>33848823Here we go again, not even gonna bother.>>33849196Stop stealing my post, fag.
>>33850319It doesn't even sound like you're struggling to find people who share your opinion, you're just getting cross that not everyone agrees with you.
>>33839255Princess Spike called.
Guess we've missed a few back in Season 1.
>>33850319>except QuibbleYou got a nice episode with a clear morale and a pretty "adult" problem and a good narration, and all you can say is "cringe bruh".I doubt what your opinion is valuable.
>>33851619I'm glad you're finally watching season 1, TOGF.
>>33851626Too bad you missed the mark by quite a bit, i fucking hate glimmernigger.
>>33851619Twilight has a clear snout there, the only problems are the animation errors on Applejack's snout and Twilight's horn.
>>33851783Delete this right fucking now
>>33841283That's exactly what you're all doing, you hypocrite.
>>33850343I am struggling, nobody else believes that the show has gone from decent to mediocre instead of great to trash and somehow that makes me a fan of the fandom. Nobody agrees with me at all.>>33851624A cringe episode is cringe no matter how well it's done. Flutterfake from S8 Ep 4 was also cringe, as was Cart Before the Ponies, most of the S1 CMC episodes, All Bottled Up, Horse Play, and many others. Note how most of these episodes are considered trash.
>>33851869It's more like this>GreatS1S2S5S7S4>MediocreS3>ThrashS8S9
>>33851881S6 is thrash I forgot to put it in.
>>33851881for me MMC pulls S3 down to trash but other than that I agree
>>33851940I understand that one, it wasn't a great episode, but I really liked certain episodes, I mostly have good memories of it, I mostly associate S3 with that Scootaloo episode where she is pissing herself over her nightmares, really enjoyed that episode.
>>33851869>trashBecause... you say so?
>>33851730>>33851783>>33851788>>33851861Where will it end?>>33851869I don't think "the show's just mediocre now" is a controversial opinion. I'd rate a lot of the recent seasons as "not awful, but not good"
>>33837579This post DID age well.
>>33849495>I literally can’t read average doomshitter, everyone
>>33840061because they are lesbians
>>33837946>>33837938Looks more like pony.mov than anything else dessu.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxAJqvslV7M&list=PLi6DhLvGtMb8krv58P69Yt6lRCnSXThfS
Op here bumping shamelessely after 5 days
>>33852210>I’ve still unironically enjoyed most of season 8 and 9 so far>I just don’t take it seriouslyOh look at that, the shill is so retarded that he can't remember his own post, or even be able to read it, not surprising if you ask me.
>>33837578>I fucking hate s9 facial animations.S9 hates you too.
>>33852718That was quite obvious since episode 3.
>>33851724oh no no no how will hasdrones ever recover?
What's interesting is that it's been scientifically proven that real horses actually have more facial expressions than many other animals, and may be second only to humans in their range of displaying emotions:https://www.nationalgeographic.com/magazine/2017/10/explore-animals-horse-facial-expressions/https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0131738So ponies having such a diverse range of facial expressions and meme faces in general isn't really that far off from reality.
>>33852687*as* seriously you failed abortion, you must be 18 or at least past kindergarten to post here
>>33854167>>33854167That's like saying that human faces having meme faces isn't that far from reality, not that memefaces has anything to do with OP or s9's new models.
>screencap a single frame in a long motion sequence that looks awkward on its own but doesn’t actually make the character look different from normal in the whole scene >g-guys look the animation is shit now and I have proofs!!!pic related is from the same episode, they look exactly the same as they always have except in minute zoomed in moments that pass in the blink of an eye (and would only be noticed by a fat neckbearded autist shitposting with screencaps on /mlp/), the fact that this bothers you is extremely autisticgod doomfags are pathetic
>>33851881>>33851893Completely agree with this list
>>33837711This is actually disgusting, and hated it when I saw the episode.>>33839009>>33851619The problem with stuff like this is that they were only used seldomly. Yeah, it's a cartoon - it's allowed to be flexible. But to use such a weird ass face (which, i agree with what others have said, was added to mimic that of the MLP movie) so often, is just really awful. I understand their need to be a little different from time to time - heck, I even liked the face at first. But it just came up too often and I just want to look at a pony, damn it!Pic unrelated. This was my favorite "different face" that was commonly used before the S4 animation change. It's just so damn cute. Anyone else got a favorite animated face? Or just animation in general. The best were before the S4 change imo.
>>33854283>says using a screencap proves nothing>uses a screencap>"but it doesn't look like shit 100% of the time so you're autistic"not helping your own case very much
>>33837578>>33837579>>33837629>>33837640The faces have been shit since they hired in the Mighty B faggots that have consistently been trying to sneak in hideous meme faces in nearly every episode for the past couple season, pic related. Mighty B itself is an absolutely repulsive cartoon, both in humor and art style. No one remembers it fondly.These don't even look like horses anymore, they're just cats with human noses. I hate it.
>>33854283Buddy, a lot of these nasty-ass faces aren't just a couple of frames.
>>33837629I think the main problem with why people have let this get so bad without complaining before is that before they thought the nose shrinking for facing forward looked okay (ex, Starlight in pic), but now the artists are going beyond that and just having a stub nose even the face is 3/4ths even though it looks wrong. They are just ignoring that the muzzle exists period for the sake of wacky cartoon faces. (ex, Twilight)
>>33854286The duration where the nose is doing what it is doing in the op is 2 seconds. The show even hangs for a moment, with nothing being said and that image on the screen. After that, she looks at the camera so I kinda don't want to count it. Small-nose is present for 3.5 seconds.If you blink and you miss 2 seconds, you need to get some pills prescribed.>ok but it's only two secondsyeah well "ok but it's only 3 seconds" "ok but it's only one face""ok but it's only one scene""ok but it's only one character""ok but it's only one episode""ok but it's not the only thing in the show and it wasn't enough to ruin the show for me"And you know what? That's a correct statement. The show is fine. The fact that the show is fine does not invalidate complaints about the show, and complaints about the show do not invalidate the show. Complaints can only serve to illustrate why a person has their reactions, but alone do not describe a person's full reaction.Because that's a different topic. Doomfagging is a different topic.What is shown on the screen is meant to illicit a reaction, and the reaction is meant to be enjoyable. When you say "but it's only a moment" I say "and the moment was there." When you say "nobody should notice" I say "why not, are you saying it wasn't enjoyable enough to be worth noticing?"
>>33854493(me)>The show is fine.fuckwell, that's gonna draw attention.First let me say that season 8 and 9 have had very large amounts of very unappealing moments and that "fine" is not the same as "good" or "great."Also, while literally making a school dance the topic is exactly the fear many people have about childeren's cartoon programming focusing on childeren's lives when even childeren hate their lives at school, plenty of dumb school cartoon and live-action content is "watchable" and "fine."I'm not expecting you to all go watch hanna montana reruns, just post your mockery gifs and move on.
>>33854505>Also, while literally making a school dance the topic is exactly the fear many people have about childeren's cartoon programming focusing on childeren's lives when even childeren hate their lives at schoolFor boys/men sure, but girls that aren't old enough for high school love prom shit. Any excuse to dress up and have a romantic evening with a fictional husbando sounds like a nice fantasy for females.There's a reason why "highschool AU" is so damn popular and cancerous in fanfiction and roleplays, assuming the primary fictious source itself doesn't already have school-like aspects to it.>plenty of dumb school cartoon and live-action content is "watchable" and "fine."Not even kids like live action children's media lol, after cartoons (if they don't become weebs or never abandon cartoons) it's just straight to PG-13+ content they're not supposed to be watching. Or youtube vlogging faggots now, since TV is dying. Beyond that, it's personal preference whether they look to total escapism or like the reimagining if school scenarios "but better". Anime is plagued with it.Back on topic, I agree with everything else you've said here. "Doomfag" has become yet another shitty useless buzzword for>STOP BADMOUTHING MY FAVORITE SHOW REEEEE
>>33837578stfu nerd nobody asked you
>>33854479>people have let this get so bad without complainingThat's not exactly true though. People talked a lot about weird-looking faces when they first did this, in season fucking 2. It was a million years ago and apparently no one remembers it anymore, but everyone noticed that there was something wrong with this infamous scene in May The Best Pet Win! It was actually the same issue, when you watch this you remember that they're supposed to have muzzles, and those mouths can't fit in their tiny muzzles. It looks fucking weird because when you try to get a mental image of what's going on here, your brain tells you that their faces are broken.It's true that no one was complaining about this anymore because it's been part of the show for so long. It doesn't mean that it was fine, it only means that people got used to it. What I can't fucking understand is why they decided to break the animation even more for the last season. The new 3/4th views are much worse than this, at least front views were remotely acceptable because a cartoon horse would always look weird in a front view, and breaking the anatomy wasn't so important. But no matter how bad you're at anatomy, you absolutely know that in a 3/4th view you'll have to see a protruding muzzle, and the new views don't have any.
>>33854583>no matter how bad you're at anatomy, you absolutely know that in a 3/4th view you'll have to see a protruding muzzleCase in point: Corn and Peg look like absolute shit and are drawn in a completely broken perspective, and even they have muzzles.I find this style hideous, and yet I think it looks unironically better than what we're getting in season 9, where the ponies are balls with pig noses.
>>33854583I remember. I hated it then too, but yeah people thought it was just a nitpick compared to what we deal with now. Somehow I adjusted to that compared to how we're getting to that point where animators don't care about going off-model since the show has outlived its prime. Same thing happened to Spongebob and the original run of the Powerpuff Girls.>>33854592I feel you, their eyes have that awkward flounder effect that's really uncomfortable to look at or think about. It's actually kind of ironic that their situation is the complete opposite of FiM's, where certain angles make them look better.
>>33854583There was something charming about it, even if it was almost bizarre looking. It could hardly be called successful animation but it was funny and weird rather than this CalArts tier bean mouth trash.I'm not going to be offended if the animators try something that doesn't quite work but trying to shoehorn Steven Universe-looking shit into MLP can blow me.If there's going to be off model shenanigans, I'd rather they be unique than lazy crap.
>>33854253>I might care, but people who criticise the show care about it more than me. Otherwise I'd be upset at Hasbro raping the lore and characters.You're not helping your case, shill. Maybe if you weren't a shit-sucking retard, you'd care more.
>>33854583Yeah, Find a Pet bringing this was legendary. I didn't mind the front view wider mouths that much personally, but now that it's creeping in even in regular angled shots I can't help but keep noticing it.
jesus christ you doomfaggots are FUCKING PATHETIC
>>33854583>apparently no one remembers it anymoreNo, I bring it up every time, I still despise that transition to that kind of faces that has become frequent in the show now.
>>33854819oh what the godfuckshe's pointing at it too. She's pointing at it, like "LOOK! LOOK! LOOK AT OUR JOKE!"I hope the original context helped a bit.
>>33854454>These don't even look like horses anymore, they're just cats with human noses. I hate it.Honestly if they wete cats or any other small-nosed critter they might make it work like pic related but the exaggerated meme-baiting would still be obnoxious
>>33854815Kill yourself nu-/mlp/ trash.
>>33854815You're the reason why this fandom is dead.
>>33854534The problem is that nobody here seems to know what doomfagging is anymore. Doomfagging isn't>this is bad, and here's whyit's>this is a prelude for something bad that has yet to comeDoomfagging was annoying because people were complaining and panicking about an imagined scenario that has not yet happened, and oftentimes never did. Usually accompanied by a laughing Pinkamina gif.
>>33855560Doomfag is a shitty forced meme term. It means nothing and the only people who repeat are scared retards who need a convenient label, like /pol/ using the jews or whatever term. Any of the -fag terms denote someone who likes something, e.g. dashfag, sunfag, shimmerfag, eqgfag. Doomfag means nothing.
>>33855918In all fairness, it's probably Jews who are calling people doomfags.
>>33856027Say what you will about the face, I really want to just pinch those cheeks.
>>33854454>not liking cats with human nosesI guess this confirms brony =/= furry
>>33855560No, that's just called endless complaining with not a single compliment in sight. No matter what it's called, it's fucking annoying and I want it to stop.Call me autistic, I don't care. How the fuck anyone can enjoy being mad 24/7 is way over my head.>>33855918How about bitchfag, because y'all like bitching about how the show isn't the same?
>>33856402u mad because eugenics are right
>>33854583So what about these faces (and >>33856825)? I legit don't know since I never really understood what's so wrong with those.Also looking at all these old screencaps made me realise that the initial style was actually a bit closer to this new 7/8 angle face style or whatever we want to call it than the current style for all other angles.
>>33851881pretty much agree with that, S4 had some real damn great episodes but a lot of it was kinda mediocre so if there was a good score I would put it thereS1,S2, and S5 are the best
>>33857801>the initial style was actually a bit closer to this new 7/8 angle face style or whatever we want to call it than the current style for all other angles.>the initial style was closer to this new 7/8 angle face style than the current style for all other angles.>The initial style was closer to the new style than the current stylewhat are you sayingIt sounds like you are saying that s1 faces were closer to s9 faces than s9 faces are, specifically for the 7/8ths angle.That... what?
>>33857801>I legit don't know since I never really understood what's so wrong with thoseDid you even bother reading the post you're replying to? I don't really understand what your screencap proves when it's not remotely close to what I or the Anon I was replying to or the anon who made the other screencaps were saying.I mean, if you just saw the thread on the catalog, you assumed it was about """meme faces""" before reading a single post, and you decided to watch the pilot for the first time to prove that it had meme faces too, that's cool. But I don't really know what to say to that.
>>33837629Nose looks better than muzzle I hope rarity becomes more EQG like by the end of season 9
>>33858564thank you for your input
>>33858380Only a very slight bit closer to the 7/8ths angle by virtue of curving the snout a bit more. It's just a slight visual thing, not really about what's being discussed in this thread.>>33858395That's why I said I never really got it, I hoped there may be a better explanation. He says that the problem is that the mouths are too big to realistically fit into a muzzle, so I wanted to know if that also applies to the faces I posted, because specifically bottom Pinkie, bottom middle Twilight, bottom right Rarara, Shy, and Pinkie, and top right Pinkie and Twi look like they have mouths too large for their snouts, but maybe I'm misunderstanding something.
>>33859356>Only a very slight bit closer to the 7/8ths angleWhat is only a very slight bit closer to the 7/8th angle of what, and compared to what?
>>33840172It's literally the "College Athletes are better than Pro Athletes" argument. The reason for this is because the amateurs are motivated by doing the best that they can so that they could one day, MAYBE get into the pro leagues. While the pros get paid regardless of skill and effort put forth and thus, they're not as passionate about playing.Just replace sports with animating, and athletes with animators and it all makes sense.
>>33837578>>33837629>>33837640A cartoon with cartoonish facial expressions? Who woulda thunk...
>>33851881S1 mediocreS2 S3 boring utter trashS4-S9 ridiculous utter trash
>literal barneyfag thread still up
>>33857091Eugenics are right for asswiping people who do nothing but complain all the time.
>>33859324>That's why I said I never really got it, I hoped there may be a better explanationFair enough. There are two different complaints about animation.One of them is the abuse of what some people call "meme faces". Those were always part of the show, they're just cartoony faces with (more or less) overly exaggerated features to convey a specific emotion momentarily. Almost all the screencaps you posted are the these kind of faces. They can have huge unrealistic mouths, because they're on a warped face. Pinkie on the top left frame is a perfect example of this, she has a huge mouth, but the entire head is completely unrealistic. It's off model because it's a cartoon effect, not because the anatomy is broken.People started complaining about this especially during season 6, when the use of these cartoonish expressions became incredibly prevalent. They call them "meme faces" because it almost looks like more than being used for the sake of narrative, they just keep on putting funny faces on the show so people can have fun screencapping them to use them as "memes".This thread is about a different complaint: broken anatomy. "Meme faces" are intentionally off model, but faces like >>33854583 or >>33837629 aren't "meme faces", they were supposed to be regular non-exaggerated expressions, and they're still off model. Maybe they look good to you, just like they looked good to the animators, but they simply don't make any sense, and when the animators drew them, they didn't think for a second about proper anatomy, they drew human-like faces with slightly horsey features.This is an example of this, I'm surprised no one posted it yet. Season 8, Marks for Effort, the screencap is real. It's absolutely impossible that the Crusaders had a shadow between the nostrils and the mouth unless their head is shaped like the bottom sketch. The animators put a shadow there because they literally don't know how a pony muzzle should look. Rarity's new faces are the result of this.
>>33861476Well said, that's exactly what my issue with these is
>>33855560Doomfagging is exactly what is going on right now. People are constantly assuming the worst about everything, even in the cases where it ISN'T justified.>>33855918Doom means fear that everything will end, and some people here clearly like that because they spam their nitpicks constantly. This thread being alive after a week is an example of how so many people care more about details like noses than whether the plot or the behaviours are trash. Sounds like fan of the fandoming to me.
>>33862044>people care more about details like noses than whether the plot or the behaviours are trashThe fact that some problems exist doesn't mean that other problems can't be discussed, you ADHD nigger. God forbid we have different threads about different subjects amirite?
>>33837578same, s1 and s2 were far and away the best. i watched the pilot episodes for s9 and the faces were by far the most distracting part of it
>>33855299>Blaming me for the death of this shitty fandom.You can thank me.
>>33862417>Literally thinking fandom was worth keeping alive.I'm not even being edgy, you're just being autistic. Fuck this fandom and fuck you too.
>>33837594Anon, The Point of No Return has a shit ton of cute Twiggles. I'm sad you weren't able to notice that.
>>33862091god forbid we have a subject where someone is like 'I LIKE this'. No, every thread is 'WOW THIS FUCKING SUCKS AND I'M GAY AS FUCK'.
>>33863814I know. I frankly loved it with Rarity when she was trying to get Yona to speak properly in she's all yak. I guess I can understand it being a little jarring sometimes, but I can't say it'd been used to the degree for me to hate it.
>>33863814nobody's stopping you from going and making one, faggotbut you'd rather bitch at people complaining than be the change, huh
>>33838006and where did /mlpol/ come from you retarded redditor?
>>33838350>actually showing the side view is lazy>>33838372>new kinds of creative poses are lazyyou're both retarded.
>>33839305>they both have big snouts and no muzzle
hoo boy i wish they animated facials
>>33837578I fucking hate nitpicks
>>33863869Who do you think makes threads likie 'Best villain' or 'X character thread', faggot? I'm trying to wash out all your negativity before it makes me assmad too.
>>33864952Yeah, so there's (1) one doomfag thread there, and one or two on every other row as well except the very last row which only has two threads.So in other words, 1/6th of board content right now is some variety of doomfagging, unless it has finally been washed out by better threads.
>>33864943>before it makes me assmad tooThere's something incredibly fucking ironic in the fact that you could have hidden this thread a fucking week ago, but you're here every day reminding us how much you hate it, while you pretend that people tired of being the fucking show treated like shit should ignore it.Because, for some fucking mysterious reason I'm completely unable to understand but you surely do know, it's apparently much easier to ignore shit on the fucking show you're a fan of than ignoring a thread you don't like on a godforsaken imageboard.
>>33865243I'm not the one bumping the thread when it's about to die. If I see it on the first two pages, I reply. And you have no idea how many Page 10 threads I bump.
>>33865250>4channers talk out their ass to support their narrativeI mean what else did you expect
>>33865262I expect (you) to stop bumping it back to first page yourself
>>33865286but I like this threadalso I've not bumped it off page ten as of yet either, and at this point we might as well push it to 500 posts.
>>33865250Wait, what the fuckhe never said you bumped it at all! He just said you didn't ignore it and kept being in the thread.
>>33837578You faggots don't even know what to bitch about anymore. Facial expressions? Pathetic.Only a few episodes left of this shit, just let it end.
>>33865243Maybe I just want to be right for once, to laugh in your stupid face as you call me autistic over and over like a broken record. It's just a test of time anyway, I know fake fans like you will leave after the finale anyway.
>>33865379Okay, you win. Happy now?>>33865250This thread personally angers me every time I see it so I have to reply.
>>33837938>>33837946Honestly, it looks better than the actual show.
>>33840619Hahaha holy shit I forgot how cheap the animation used to look.
>>33861476Thanks for the explanations.>when the use of these cartoonish expressions became incredibly prevalentI think it was more that some of those faces were too exaggerated since as my image shows, you can find plenty of them even in old episodes and I don't recall the number increasing significantly, just them sticking out more (haven't checked though, I may be misremembering). At least that was the case for me.>they were supposed to be regular non-exaggerated expressions, and they're still off modelThat's what I wanted to ask about (only regarding the pre-S9 issue here). I agree that many of the caps I posted fall under exaggerated expressions, but does that also apply to the ones I pointed out, especially top and bottom right? And if it does, why shouldn't Dash and Shy from May the Best Pet Win count, considering it's in a song where the mouth expressions tend to be exaggerated to emphasise that they are singing? Where's the line between exaggerated expression and broken mouth anatomy?>Maybe they look good to you (also regarding the S9 faces now)I wish, ignorance is bliss as they say. Some of them don't bother me too much (although I'd prefer for them to not exist) and I think showcase the apparent attempt to create a new intermediate "7/8" or something angle fairly passably (top left and top third from the right in >>33837629), but the rest weird me out, although I think a large part of that is because they're usually accompanied by a weird mouth. If it was just one or the other and they'd strictly keep it to the proper angle (because damn some of them are way too far into 3/4 and full frontal territory which adds to the weirdness since we expect a different look), they'd be a lot more bearable (or if they just pronounced the snout more lmao).(cont.)
>>33847396But why? Anonymous complaining on the internet literally does not effect the quality of the show in any conceivable way.
>>33865498>>33861476>they didn't think for a second about proper anatomy, they drew human-like faces with slightly horsey featuresYou mean instead of anime cat/dog-like faces with slightly horsey features? ^:)The interesting thing is that it doesn't seem like they entirely didn't think about anatomy since the Sandbar caps posted in this thread and Chrysalis from Frenemies seem to show that they may have done a better job on big-snouted characters, but they fucked up the small-snouted mares like they'd never seen their own side views. Stuff like this is why I'd really like to hear what Jim has to say on their goals for and his thoughts on these new angles, since for once that's actually something he probably was involved in. Maybe someone here could send him a non-memey tweet asking about that?>It's absolutely impossible that the Crusaders had a shadow between the nostrils and the mouthI did some unscientific testing with a plush and I was able to get a little bit of shadow right above the mouth so if they had their lips extended like pic related it might, with the lights at very specific angles, just might barely be possible to get light on the lip and shadow just above and below. However I think the lighting in that scene may be fucked in general, but I do get your point.
>>33837704Pretty sure all the episodes are animated and 100% done already for some time, just waiting to be released. It's not S1 anymore where they were doing it almost just-in-time.
On the topic of weird face rigs, anyone noticed the ones from today's episode being a bit... different? Like the eyes are rounder? Larger, maybe? Especially on Trixie something wasn't looking quite right.I'll try get some comparison pics up again, just curious.
>>33866149>Pretty sure all the episodes are animated and 100% done already for some time, just waiting to be released.Why do Italians stop airing new eps after 9x13 then?
>>33866149I think there still is some production ongoing for the second part of the season, but most episodes are probably finished by now. Jim recently tweeted that he still had about 1.5 months of work remaining.>>33866184They do also seem to have an updated rig for the front view that stood out to me in some scenes in the premiere as being a bit flatter/weirdly arranged than before. Didn't specifically notice it today but that may be it.
>>33866235They most likely haven't received them for localization yet.
>>33866250Yeah, I dunno. Was just watching the episode and realized that those front view stares aren't quite right. Went through S6E6 and didn't immediately notice anything quite like some of these.
>>33854493the noses have always looked like that from dead on, dont be autistic. or more autistic than you already are
>>33864952>2 hasdrone threadsill take a ''''doomfag'''' over that anyday
>>33866184>todays episodefuck off leakfag it's only monday
>>33867282>links to a picture that isnt dead on>hurr hasdronefucking retard
>>33867348In that case, I already stated that I didn't' want to count the part where she looks directly at the camera, so I don't know why you're getting on my case.The time chosen was "two seconds" because she's looking near but not at the camera for 2 seconds while sporting that weird nose. Essentially, I'm saying that what was said doesn't even disagree with the "autistic" post.
>>33865498>>33865519Well, I think you're right about my misclassification of some meme faces. To be fair, I'm trying to rationalize why something looked awful many years ago, I know it did, but I can't really remember what exactly made it so different or why it looked wrong.Especially not now that the show has done much worse and those faces don't even feel special anymore. Funnily enough, I remember something relevant about normalizing those faces, there was this scene in Filli Vanilli where they used a really similar face, pretending it was the cutest Fluttershy could get. I always found it weird, I found Fluttershy cute while she was singing, but that closeup of the creepy smile was simply disturbing to me, even though this was two years after Find a Pet. At that point it wasn't even used as a funny face, it was presented as the... epitome of cuteness or something.>the Sandbar caps posted in this thread and Chrysalis from FrenemiesThis makes sense though. If they were completely clueless about how to draw those faces, they had to put more thought into it. Either they used references, or they asked someone with a better grasp of anatomy to draw them. They didn't have to care that much when drawing mares because they thought they were doing it right by following the recipe, draw a circle, draw a nose, draw a (human-like) mouth.
doomretards absolutely embarassed themselves in this thread confirming their barneyfag tier opinions are worthless and low IQ
>>33868043That "smile" will never not be creepy. It's uncomfortable and unnatural to have a smile this big with the teeth all pressed together. The line underneath is uncanny and unnecessary because lips aren't part of poni facial aesthetics. Besides, in the animal kingdom, showing teeth is used for intimidation, making it a natural reaction to be wary of smiles that are off.On another note, could it be that this 'human' smile looks so disturbing because it makes the face appear flat? Because Pinkie's odd smile in the lower left >>33857801 is just as unnatural, yet not creepy. And it looks like fitting into a protruding snout, taking us back to the very dilemma of the tiny, disconnected snout.
>>33866250>>33866909These faces are as flat as a Powerpuff Girl, the snout isn't even trying to cover the faraway eye. The eyes are placed completely frontal and tend to be rounder, especially clashing with the almond shaped eyes of Twilight, Rarity and the like. Fuck, even pooding at least had a protruding nose (though no snout). In this case >>33838408 , the position of the mouth can make the snout appear like a snout in some frames, and like a human nose in others. Depending on whether or not snout and mouth flow as one (though interrupted) line or not. Because the "snout" has become so small and barely if ever protrudes to cover the faraway eye, the mouth has to be moved to the side in order to appear as part of a snout, explaining why I do like their annoyed, frowny way of moving their mouth - it looks ponyish. Yet when sporting a normal expression, mouth placed in the center, it looks human, for the snout has to stand as its own separate entity, a nose.
>>33868043>>33868155Well, epitome of cuteness can be seen as an exaggerated expression ^:) and that shot hits pretty much all pre-requisites for an exaggerated expression anyways: high emotion (elation), face closeup, looking in direction of the camera.Also horses do smile like that, but because the ponies don't have horse heads, that doesn't work. Slap the full teeth smile on a cat face, which is much closer to the anatomy the show uses, and it's fairly close to what you get in that shot. Also even with a snout as small as the ponies have, it stretches out towards the rest of the face and the mouth can open a little wider than the snout is. The smile isn't even that much wider in relation to the eyes than in the image above or in top right from >>33857801, it barely extends halfway through the face which isn't all that uncommon I think. If anything, the nose is rendered to small.Also if we're talking about anatomy, ultimately there's the fact that besides already being a mix of different anatomies, these ponies are sapient and can speak and sing, which requires certain anatomical developments in voice box, mouth, and nose, so a more human-like mouth anatomy isn't out of the question if you want to be "correct".This stuff comes pretty close to ending in simply a subjective discussion of style, which again is why I'd really like to know what Jim has to say about these new rigs.>lips aren't part of poni facial aesthetics>>33865519>>33868181>the snout isn't even trying to cover the faraway eyeI'm pretty sure it never does until the 3/4 view, though (the new "7/8" actually means it does so more than before, but of course as you say it's too short in that view. It needs to either be longer or remain flat like before). The entirely frontal and less angled (ie. more round) eyes are what I noticed with this new frontal rig, too, though.
>>33868242>why I'd really like to know what Jim has to say about these new rigsget ready for a passive-aggressive "it looks great/it's just for little girls/etc." thenhis last comment about rigs I can remember was that they didn't show Saddle Arabia in Road to Friendship because they would've had to make new ones for that
Did body models get an "update" too, because I can't remember seeing such a lanky pony before.
gonna post a few more times to sink this shit thread
Oh, and FUCK DOOMFAGS
New thread where?
hahaha holy shit imagine seething this hard
>>33868155It really doesn't bother me, how autistic are you?
>>33839204Nothing. It's the same empty nostalgia-faggotry that constituted most 'critique' of S8.
>>33870157I'm curious as to whether there's going to be another thread as well.This fandom has truly come full circle.After all, it was started by people seething in /co/ about the animation in MLP:FiM (and flash animation in general).
>>33869826His response about Saddle Arabia was more about it not being in the script if I remember correctly. In that case, if you can at best show it for a few seconds (not sure there even was a point where it'd have fit in) I agree that creating a bunch of new rigs is mostly wasted effort, especially when you have an episode coming up that actually needs new rigs and props for most of its runtime.Also obviously my point is to not start off with "I don't like thing" but to send something like "Hey @thebiggestjim I noticed you guys made some new face rigs for some angles, I'd be really interested to hear your goals for and thoughts on those" and attach the Rarity pic (maybe one for the flat front angles too). If he responds it can always be followed up with "Thanks, appreciate the effort, to me personally the small nose makes the face look a bit uncanny and too human-like unfortunately." so the criticism only comes afterwards and doesn't put him on the defensive right away, that's just unfair to the effort he and the team put in anyways and no way to lead a proper conversation. Also this isn't just about criticism, while I'd like to let him know what I think I'm genuinely interested in what their thought process was.
>>33871546Sounds like a plan then.
Luna has a short muzzle now for some reason.
>>33872072seems like we need another thread after all
>>33872091These look awful in the princesses but I think they'd look good in the other ponies. They're just short muzzles.For some reason, characters who should have long muzzles have short muzzles, and characters who should have short muzzles have no muzzles at all.
>>33872091>>33872072why are the princesses dudes now and why is luna fat as fuckis that part of the plot of the episode? I could see that being the case.(don't actually answer without a spoiler)
>>33872245>is that part of the plot of the episodeit's not>don't actually answer without a spoilerno
>>33837578New writers.New animators.