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Greetings, lads!
We're playing in a memevitational of biggest markets this weekend, starting in a bong and a half.
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Big_Team_Brawl
Two matches await us today, against /int/ and /sp/. Come join us for some comfy extreme memeball. Stream should hopefully be hosted at http://derpy.me/divegrass like usual.

And while we have gathered here, two more things: some of y'all might already know, but the Winter Cup starts off on February 15. It'll be held on PES 16, so get hyp for insane goalfests and comebacks aplenty.

Lastly, to add to the winter divegrass season, we'll be hosting the third round of Friendship Association Games, expanded to 10 teams, in two weeks from now (26-27 Jan). And while the cup is taking a step back to 16, we're making a step forward to PES 18, to give you a taste of what awaits.

That should be it for now, enjoy the weekend and giddy up!
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where was our defense
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>PES16

oh boy time for >rape to break the records again
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>>33388344
3rd for bring back old managers to acquire 3rd star
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>>33388344
Run horsecock formation with Appulkits or no balls
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We're up next!
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>18
hyp, I assume most if not all teams have proper aesthetics as seen in some screenshots in /4ccg/?
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>>33388344
What's the word on PES18 in regard to the cup? Is it gonna move or did QD fold faster than a Chinese laundromat?
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>>33388648
Yeah, most of the heads are ported over. Some shortcuts had to be taken (mouths aren't animated because the bones on the 18 are different and fuck I can't figure that out), a few players are still missing but hopefully we'll figure it out in the next two weeks.

>>33388663
Winter on PES 16, QD promised Spring on 18 for real, no backsies, format locked. Further cups should probably be on 18 as well but if it ends up being a shitshow, who knows what will really happen.
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>>33388663
18 confirmed for spring, no word on anything forward of that, but it's assumed we'll stay on 18 unless literally everything burns down
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>>33388648
>proper aesthetics
almost
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>>33388783
Love it
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>>33388783
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Did the horses win against los goblinos? I missed half of the game
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>>33388863
football won
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>>33388870
Sasuga football
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We're up again!
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>>33389018
>the elite and muscular McBox
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>rape shaking an horse's hand
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>>33389093
I guess we all know what he's doing tonight.
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So, FAGs probably not until the next cup season? I know a lot of the aesthetics leaps have been shown on those teams.
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>>33389288
If by "next season" you mean two weeks, then yes.
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Haven't watched the matches myself, but here's the matrix
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>>33388885
woah, PES19 sure do looks really photorealistic
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Good, time to giddy up
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>>33389288
FAGs literally in two weeks and 12 hours

And one more bit of news, Winter 19 is moving back to the GGSS medal system. Since the >rape, Best Pony, Princess Twilight medal combo is pretty set, we'll poll for the second silver only, to give all contestants a fair shot and basically have a medal poll, since the last one was iirc a year ago, so it's about damn time.
Probably no standard roster poll though, since no matter how hard I try I can't think of anything teamworthy from the past three months.
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>>33390756
Give it to Tracy. She deserves it
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>>33389288
>>33390756
I am blind, thanks. Thanks also for the heads-up about the polls. Please consider still planning for some kind of a roster poll, though.
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>>33390778
What would you even suggest for a new player?
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>>33390756
Make the verification question especially hard so newfags and shitters don't fuck everything up
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>>33390793
Perhaps something from the Christmas Special. The Marble scene of it got a visceral reaction.
The team gets plenty of input from the board, but roster polls really help underline board interest representation. If no one else wants a poll, that's fine with me.
However, I wanted a chance to try to help get Dan back on the team before his grace period's up.
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>>33390836
I do like the idea of school-shooter Marble, but I'm indifferent on her getting a spot on the roster.
Board representation is a fickle thing. The last poll was done just after the Kirin episode, so now there's a player for that despite nothing in particular being memed about them besides existing.
Dan's dead. On the team and otherwise. You need to let the old players go and stop trying to get zombie players back on the roster.
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>>33390756
WOW! Guess who won't be a medal anymore!
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>>33390756
>Not being Tracy
>Giving Glimshit a shot
Fuck this nu-management, you may as well put iwtcird as the second silver

>No roster poll
>Because (((I))) cant think of anything noteworthy
So you re the team, not the board. Got it.

Remember when choices where picked from the thread? Good times...
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>>33391520
>Fuck this nu-management
No u. Tracy is dead and being literally forced by namefag now. Might as well put Don't Want to Know in because he is /ourguy/ and represents the board on JewTube.

>So you re the team, not the board. Got it.
I do however agree with this. Supreme Gentlemare Would be on the top right now.
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>>33391520
>bitches that the board gets to decide
>bitches that the board doesn't get to decide
so which one is it
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>>33390836
>>33390854
>>33391525
Stop.
Supreme Gentlemare would be a dead on arrival flavor of the week /r9k/ meme, just because we got to have something from the special. It's like the Kirin player, except that one was at least memed about at the time of the poll, this one isn't even that.
There's nothing that would make for a good player right now, just look at how bland the awards thread was, and we had a whole year to choose from.
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>>33390810
They didn't last time?
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>>33391525
>Might as well put Don't Want to Know in because he is /ourguy/ and represents the board on JewTube
>pic related
Y I K E S

>>33390756
I'd still do a poll anyways. I agree that there wasn't anything worthy last months ded board ded show ripip, oh hey, that might actually be a player, 2 moe's on the roster fuck yeah, but let the board say it for itself. If the suggestion list from the preliminary poll comes out devoid of any sensible suggestions, then so be it.
is it /ourtime/ burdenedbros?
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>>33391525
>Tracy is dead and being literally forced by namefag now
holy shit fuck off
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>>33391626
>Tracy is what /mlpol/ets cling onto
Ok, now I want her gone too
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>>33391614
Except that DWK only used trip to make all of you fuck off and even then it is not certain if it was him. Yikes indeed. Totally Legit Recap is not namefag or are you gonna deny it too?

>>33391626
Prove me wrong faggot.
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>>33391652
>Totally Legit Recap is not namefag or are you gonna deny it too?
It's not about how you word the name, it's about whom it's representing.
That being said,
>unironical eceleb apologist
Shan't be engaging in discussion with this type.
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Just make a team full of Derpies, what could possibly go wrong? ^:)
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>>33391635
>Tracy
>mlpolets
How fucking new are you cocksucker? Not everything you hate is because of mlpol faggot
>>33391652
Prove yourself right first faggot, you don't get to shitpost in here acting like the facts dont matter because you don't like a fucking cartoon horse on a made up soccer team
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>>33390756
do whatever the fuck you want sparx, you dont listen to anything we say anyway, faggot and when you fail and get btfo yet again we get to mock you endlessly you autistic twat
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>>33391697
why should anyone listen to a cunt like you?
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>>33391713
same question right back at you faggot
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>>33391614
>people want a poll to try and get Burdened back on the team
Figures. Not for new players, but to revive dead ones
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>>33391602
If Milky was enough to trick that many Anons then I don't know if it needs to be harder. What kind of question would you have in mind for next poll?
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>>33391691
>Prove yourself right first faggot,
Either retarded or a newfag.
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Come on, we need that thicc 3 stars already
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>>33391635
newfag, shit troll, or amazingly retarded
which is it?
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HI ANON!
IS IT MY TIME TO BE A MEDAL YET?
I PROMISE I WON'T LET YOU DOWN!
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>>33391691
>you can't sack a player just because you hate her and say so
>but you have to keep her just because I like her and say so
What did he mean by this?
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>>33391843
Everyone will lose their shit. But yes. Please do.
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How long until matches start?
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>>33391884
One bong and 15 bings
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>>33391840
I'll take one lack of reading comprehension from (You), please.
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I just want to see >rape and best pony in action again.

gd up
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>>33391843
If someone told me i d be up to voting for this i d call them crazy and that i had to be a faggot for that to happen
I think i m a faggot now then
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Was the applekits curse finally broken?
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>>33391614
Burdened failed three times, he wont be back.
Might as well try to get JCT back instead.
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>>33391966
No. It has to be during official cup.
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>>33391950
Did your apostrophe key break?
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link for the mentally chalenged?
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Damn, I forgot all about the cup. How did the team do in autumn? Did anyone from management leave?
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>>33392052
/mlp/ squeaked by to the knockouts with a record lowest result.
No one left as far as I know.
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>>33392052
/mlp/ is only good when they give 0 fucks about the tournaments.
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>>33392062
Yikes. Thanks.
Let's hope we won't beat that record.
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>>33391843
Please yes. Do eeeeet.
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We need to stop meeting like this, /mlp/.

Hopefully football will win today.
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>>33392085
you aight, big guy
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>this stream
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>>33392085
>purple mane
Nice Molestia combo, woody
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Oy!
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>>33391614
Yeah, we can run a suggestion poll and see what comes up, even though imo polling after three months of hiatus, considering our relative slowness nowadays, is redundant.

>>33392085
You up for some 5-3-2 -2 slurpfest? ^:)
just kidding we'll play normally to not bore everyone to death

>>33391843
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>>33391843
>>33392150
Do it. Fuckin' do it you nigger. It definitely is tiem.
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hoping for a draw
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We play now bois!
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IT BEGINS!
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GIDDY UP
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ITS TIME!!
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BROTHERS
IT'S TIME
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>2017
I thought we were playing in 18?
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there's a PLAYOFF if it ends in a draw.
Oh god please make it happen
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Why was Glimmer that happy with us taking a goal?
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>>33392329
spring is in 18, this (and probably most upcoming) invitational(s will be) is in 17
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>>33388344

Fucking kill yourself TSparx, you're a shit fucking manager. Literally anybody on the board can do a better job than you.
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Fug, time to go to Equestria.
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Time for the first line-up IRL
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>>33392367
So why don't you?
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OH NO NO NO NO /MLP/BROS

/r/ this but with /mlp/ instead
https://vocaroo.com/i/s0uKWkzceI9M
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>>33392374
well I'm shy haha :3
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>>33392374
I think he's shitposting. It's an invitational and /mlp/ was running a horse cooter formation.
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>>33392384
Kinda surprised more teams weren't using meme formations
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>>33392150
fucking kill yourself you fucking piece of shit

you didn't try your best you fucking memed

where was our defense
why were our attackers with no support
why did you use the fucking apple kits
why are there unfunny memes
where was our defense
WHERE THE FUCK WAS OUR DEFENSE YOU FUCKING RETARD

FUCKING RESIGN RIGHT NOW YOU PIECE OF SHIT LITERALLY A FUCKING 5-YEAR-OLD CHILD CAN DO THIS BETTER THAN YOU

FUCKING

KILL YOURSELF
>OH YEAH IT DOESN'T REALLY FUCKING MATTER BECAUSE IT'S FUN AND DOESN'T MATTER

THEN DON'T FUCKING MANAGE IF YOU DON'T CARE YOU FUCKING SHITFUCKER
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>>33392395
divegrass is srs business
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>>33392400
there we go, that's the one
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I'm just happy PES17 is finally over
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Nice game, /mlp/, see ya in Winter when we're probably gonna meet in RO16 where you're gonna win in PKs again you luckshitters ^;).

>>33392395
I literally came up with mine for these when I had 39C fever. Thought it would crash and burn.
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>>33392374

Because when I asked if I can prepare an export ahead of TSparx and take over managing it, I was told to fuck.
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>>33392412
>He thinks PES16 will be any better.
At least /block/ will be a powerhouse again.
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>>33392415
you literally pussied out, you're all words no action, pure shitposter
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>>33392414
I mean formations shaped like stuff, like the unbeatable liquor bottle
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>>33392417

PES16 is hell to manage for, but hilarious to watch for viewers. And even if the pons crash out, it just means we'll get to play in the first official new PES cup, which is always fun.


>>33390756

What kind of medal system will the FAGs be using? I'll update /bug/ accordingly.

Also if anyone's got bug memes, I'm taking suggestions because right now the roster is kinda ass.
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>>33392448
>he thinks he's allowed to manage a FAG team
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>>33392448
It'll be GGSS, the Winter '19 rules without the GK buff, since that's what the cup will most likely be using for 18, but we already have someone submitting stuff for /bug/, since there's too many people and not enough teams, and currently active testers take precedence to have an opportunity to learn and fuck around with 18.

>>33392454
BGP managed /bug/ in FAG2.
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>>33392466

Giving managers and testers priority for managing in board events is okay, I guess, but at the same time I think it's kind of fucked up that you keep taking memeteams created by other people and give their ownership away. I lost two memeteams to this shit now. If you get a new guy, at least let them make their own team instead of giving them someone else's. It would be more fun for them as well.
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>>33392521
We would create new teams, but we don't have an abundance of time or people to make aesthetics. Especially for 18, which isn't exactly the easiest game to create aesthetics for. We're having one new team for FAG3, and they'll most likely have mostly boxheads and a maybe few retextured ponies from other teams. I think fans would prefer teams with aesthetics, as well as familiar names they have supported in the past.

I suppose you could've asked for your teams to be reserved for you, like another manager has done with /cdf/. Now seems to be a bit late for that, although I suppose replacing /bug/ with a bunch of Faggot Deer recolours might be doable? You'd have to ask people who actually know how aesthetics work.
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>>33392521
We've been thinking about new teams even last event, since like I said, too many people not enough teams, thing is that it ain't so simple. You need an okay concept, you need some aesthetics that ideally aren't just boxheads to make it more fun, and besides, nobody's saying that new people aren't allowed to make a team for themselves. But it takes time and effort, while a perfectly ready team is just sitting there.
Simply put, I'm not going to let someone who is currently active and helping the team sit on the bench just because you want to play.
And also, you got the whole concept of memeteam ownership wrong. Even from the first FT event it was always emphasized that it's not about the people behind them that gave them tactics. Everyone can take any team they'd like. But active people > retired people.
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>you should've told us we weren't allowed to give your stuff away to someone else
>mfw
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>>33392612
>your stuff
You own the team?
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I fucking knew it was an inside job all along.
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>>33392612
There weren't any issues when "your" stuff passed on to active managers and testers the first time, so my apologies for thinking that the teams are not in fact manager FCs tied to individual personalities.
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>>33392751

That was during the time you guys just joined and /clop/ had not yet split. We figured you'd eventually make your own stuff.

This whole thing's like letting someone crash in the guest room, and then coming home from work the next day only to find out the guest has changed all the locks of the house and his friends moved in.

I can't understand how you can constantly lock people out of stuff, commandeer their shit for your own purposes and then be surprised when they get upset about it. Like, do you not see what an asshole thing that is to do?
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>/a/ management holds team hostage
>/mlp/ management is friends with /a/ management
>/mlp/ management holds team hostage
Imagine my surprise.
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>>33392846
Funny how nobody ever talked about how we're supposed to make our own stuff, then. This is the first time I'm hearing that, especially since instead of pushing us away from /wdb/ you just made up a new team. You'd figure it would be brought up, but it clearly wasn't an issue then, it's not an issue now.
And no, this isn't like your convenient metaphor at all. We're not crashing in your guest room, you don't own the house. You invited us in because you needed someone else to pay the rent, gave us the keys, and now it's as if you're acting surprised that nobody wants an old retired grump around who's only good at bitching and yelling at people that they are pissing on the legacy of "his" team. Like, do you not see what an asshole thing that is to do? You don't get to moralize and lecture on how nice I should be to you while simultaneously being the biggest cunt I had the pleasure to witness around the /mlp/ team.
FAGs are about the show, the event itself, not about what retired manager owns what team, because nobody really owns a team, and I'm not barring active, helpful people from using /bug/ just because you want to see your tactics on the stream. You weren't upset about us commandeering "your" shit for our own purposes before. Go figure that we'll eventually make our own stuff and eat shit.
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>>33392907
It's common sense, man. Just because I let you drive my car doesn't mean the car isn't still mine. You don't even ask us about any of this.

You'd be rightly called a dickhead if out of the blue you commandeered /block/ for the FAGs, assumed direct control and
changed up the entire team to your own liking without even telling Boris or Kregg about it. Just because we don't advertise who's behind what team for meme reasons doesn't mean people who create their teams feel they're responsible and have ownership of that team. I'm pretty sure you control the same team as you did years ago, so where does this "no ownership" argument fit in then when you have obviously claimed ownership of that team?

When you say you have no open spot in an event because managers and testers have priority, that's fine. There's no problem with that. However when you then follow that up with "Oh jeah, your team belongs to someone else now" then that's fucked up. It's not yours to give away.
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>>33393140
Personally i think all this is nothing but bickering with big words
I loved /cdf/ for the memes, not for the manager who created it. I like bug for the memes and the memory of better times, not for whoever created it
I was throughoutly upset when /cdf/ pulled out because "muh team", that s bullshit, i may as well want one of the players off /mlp/ because "that s my meme"
If this was a /mlp/ league then id understand, but it isnt, its just part of the /mlp/ team in the end, so thanks for creating that but this is bullshit
Id be up for a /mlp/ meme-vitational like /v/ has though, and if that happens then i d be with you.
Rarafag is on the past, let the wheel turn and make that a thing already
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>>33393209
Like /vg/ has, not like /v/
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>>33393223
>/mlp/ league with generals facing off
>Pregnancy General vs Spanking General
Sweet merciful fuck, please no.
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>>33393140
Stop with the fucking metaphors, a fake memeteam used for a no stakes two day event is neither a house nor a car, all your contribution is picking music and slapping 23 names on someone else's models. But you know what else is common sense? That when you already give away one "car" without a single mention that it's merely being rented, when the event hides which car belongs to whom, when the cars aren't compared between each other anymore, to assume that maybe the car ownership does not matter. Sadly your ego can't take that.
And yeah I'm sure I'd be called a dickhead if I assumed direct control of a team that is completely irrelevant to FAGs and is very clearly and publicly "Kregg's and Boris' team" just to force it into the event. That is, of course, a very fitting comparison to giving an already existing, established FAG team that belongs to nobody to someone active over your retired ass.
And no, I do not own a team. Never claimed I did. If someone else wanted it, I'd be happy to trade or share. So that's where this "no ownership" argument fits in. Since gauntlets are out, this is purely a community event where it does not matter who "owns" what team, or supplies exports for them, rather. Active testers use them to tinker with 18, but it doesn't matter who uses /wdb/, /pnk/ or /eqg/. You can still play around with /bug/ on your own time, I'm not taking away your toys from you. But your tactical autism won't be on display on the stream, and that's all you can really claim ownership to. If you made /bug/ for yourself, as your team, then sorry, but you went into it with the wrong attitude, and that's not how we do things anymore.
>It's not yours to give away.
It's not yours to keep it. Also watch me.

>>33393209
I joke about this but please be aware that this would only be an awful, awful cancer gallery, not to mention that we're so dead and the generals are so dead that most of them would barely be able to make a team
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>>33393238
>Make a /mlpg/ that s the equivalent of trash
>Fill with general reps in it
>Ban general specific teams
Problem solved
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>>33393248
Isn't that just the FAGs then?
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>>33393259
An open FAGs where anyone can export their teams in, instead of a closed event where the existing teams are assigned to managers and testers.
Plus everyone would be able to join that way
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>>33393268
You could make a new team for the FAGs, no?
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>>33393274
Not this close to the event, much less the aesthetics, but given enough previous notice im certain that i could manage to do it
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>>33393280
That's what I mean. /bug/ was passed to an active tester due to time constraints, but if someone were so inclined that they made a new team, I figured it could be used in a future event.
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>>33393290
And that s what "I" mean, the Friendship Tests, the FAG...they re closed events so why would """we""" waste time making something that may end up not being used? Of course i cant come up with a full roster and the aesthetics is two weeks while keeping up with work and other real life stuff, but if i had a month or two, which the tester probably had, i probably could come up with something

Unlike the retired manager im not against sharing teams, but if you dont even know if you may use your meme team or what rules would apply then why even waste time in it? Its a shot in the dark AND a waste of time since, again, its a closed event
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>>33393317
I'm not sure I understand what you mean by closed event. Isn't that every cup/invitational/whatever?
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>>33393243
>It's not yours to keep it. Also watch me.

Then why are you not using Cloudsdale Factory in the FAG events? If people do not have ownership over teams, why did you listen to Darkbow when he asked you not to include his team if he wasn't there to take care of it? What makes him special?
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It's certainly no good to see current and previous managerial teams in such feuded and hostile state. And it goes on like this since the takeover. And >we're supposed to be the most friendshipy bunch around.

Turning back on old managers for tourney played on PES16 means we can probably say goodbye to that 3rd star game of skill btw
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>>33393353
I feel like BGP is an outlier, since he seems incapable of leaving and comes by to shit on the managers after every loss.
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>>33393340
Is the cup open for anyone to join? Are its rules clear for anyone who wishes to enter ahead of time, so they may make a team of their own?
>I still dont know-
Fucking look at /vg/ league and stop playing dumb you twat, only difference is that we d have a no generals rule with a /mlpg/ trash containment team
You can even use the top placing in-house team instead of the winner's tactics for all i care

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>>33393347
Darkbow huh? Here was i thinking he was a nice lad, bring back /cdf/ you fag, terrorist dash still needs to play her horn
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If you have a good idea for a team or know enough stuff to even make it, nothing easier than asking any of us if we wanna include it or help you with it. We try to avoid meta teams (see /mlpg/ above) and make it in a similar spirit of Equestrian (or dougshit) players, but aside from that most anything goes.
Just be aware that if you want to do it not because "I want to see <team> play", but because "I want to have my team with my tactics on the stream", that you might end up being disappointed.

>>33393347
Because Darkbow isn't a total cunt that only trashtalks, so we honored his wish to leave /cdf/ out when he asked us to, even though it pained me.
(and /cdf/ is coming back, too)
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>>33393374
VGL isn't an open event. There are generals that are barred from participation and it's up to the VGL council to decide who plays.
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Starting to feel hype for winter, let's do it!
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>>33393394
Still more open than FTs for obvious reasons and FAGs for stupid ones
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>>33393389
>Because Darkbow isn't a total cunt that only trashtalks

The only cunt who's been trashtalking in this thread is you, dude. This was a civil discussion until you jumped in.
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>>33393389
The rules being a closed book is still a problem you know, if you make a team you should at least be able to manage it, even if only on its first round as a thanks.
And if its made into an open event i do think it should also be made the original manager a priority, as long the team isnt yet taken. Immediately assigning it to a tester or a manager would be dickish as well, perhaps having a one week grace period instead for it to be taken, becoming open for anyone else interested afterwards

Dont just go all Starlight on anyone wanting to participate, take the team and immediately assign it to someone else, that s what i was talking about with using the top in-house team result instead of the winners tactic. No one makes teams just bnecause because, first of all we didnt even knew we could do it and get them accepted, and secondly: you would just make it to give it to someone else if you didnt have any interest yourself? Yeah people made gifs and images for FTs and FAGs, but its not the same as making a team to just give it to someone else immediately, not giving a chance to participate at all

If there s a better explanation of a closed event then Im all ears

>>33393394
At least they let people join with their memes and tactics instead of closing it to people outside of their safe house while asking for free stuff
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>Even if its only on first round as thanks
>/mlp/ is slaved into making new teams so they can have fun, but only in the first rounds
>If you want more fun you need to buy the tester dlc before continuing
Literally worse than EA
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>>33392466
>currently active testers take precedence
Ok, how about giving BGP /bug/ AND some input in /mlp/ tactical matters?
Passing up knowledge of someone already experienced in PES16 seems a bit foolish, and I see no other reason to do so than you simply being butthurt.
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>>33393529
BGP has said on multiple occasions that he doesn't want to join up again.
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>>33393465
You are correct.

>>33393481
It won't be an open event, as in anyone can submit whatever.
This is something we organize for the fun of it - watch fake teams play some divegrass, enjoy some banter. There are no consequences, no gauntlets deciding which export is the best export, none of that. It's just pure fun and shitposting.
That's why if you want to make a team just so you can manage it, you're doing it for the wrong reason here. We're not tryharding with the teams (at least not compared to the actual cup testing), it's not about the thrill of managing or whatever. If that's what you seek, consider either joining as a tester, here or elsewhere, or participate in the /ag/league if you want a team that's yours and yours alone, but this event isn't it.
>that s what i was talking about with using the top in-house team result instead of the winners tactic.
Not sure what you mean by this, sorry.
And yeah, I don't mind giving a team away. I helped building /csgu/, I'm working on the tenth team now, and I didn't and don't plan to manage or test a single game with either of them. Because the reason I'm doing it isn't "I want to participate", but "I want to see a team like this play". I'm helping organizing this because I want to watch it, not because I want to manage in it.
And I guess we never asked because making a team isn't really easy, considering all the aesthetic stuff from kits to models, having PES for the export itself, etc., and I don't expect fans suddenly sink time into learning how to mod PES players and how to do shit in blender and what not for a memeteam.

>>33393529
We have Emulpee on board so we're not lacking in 16 insight.
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>>33393529

The event is in PES18, not PES16, and I agree that managers/testers should have priority over outsiders when it comes to participation. I just think people should make their own teams. Commandeering other people's teams without even giving them a headsup or asking them for permission is pretty damn disrespectful.

I think it would eventually be interesting if /mlp/ got an open event where people can sign up whatever MLP related team they like, but there would have to be a form of quality control to make sure the teams are in the spirit of the event and to keep out blatant circlejerk/fetish shit.
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>>33393587
Emulpee was largely MIA during summer 16 tho.
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>>33393587
>I dont know what you meant by this
I meant that if you took the winners tactic to run, which you debunked in the post itself
Still, having an event by /mlp/ for /mlp/ is what i was talking about, not specifically FAGs, just went with that because >>33393259 brought it up and modding an existing cup is easier than making one from scratch, that fits even more since it doesnt have any other reason to exist other than to have fun. We could even keep it to teams that d be fit for Equestrian/>No hooves teams, which is the flair of this cup in the end, never said it had to be completely open for anything
Heck i d love to see a "retired players" team as well if that was allowed, and it would only need <current PES> aesthetics

>And yea i dont mind giving away a team
>He says as he uses another team to participate, instead of just watching it from the sidelines
At this point i d be up for you to give out your team to a tester and /bug/ to BGP, just because
It is just for fun afterall isnt it? You can have said >Fun on memetationals with /mlp/ itself and even official cups, may as well give away your team to the lad then right?
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Did we get much new content last 4cc that /mlp/ was in? I can't remember really seeing anything. Am I just blind?
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>>33393679
That would be a good compromise. If the FAG was to help managers practice live managing for the cup in a serious setting, it would make sense to prioritize testers/managers over everyone else like TSparx said. But it's all for fun and TSparx said he isn't doing anything tactical, so why prioritize managers over the rest of us? Sounds circlejerky.
>only we get to have fun just because
Let TSparx give his team to a tester and let BGP run /bug/. Everyone is happy and the thread can stop being a smouldering dumpster fire.
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Sooo..? Any plans to update the roster?
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>>33393721
Has anything happened in the lull since Autumn that could work as a new player?
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>>33393728
Eeeeh, not really
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>>33393728
Its hoofy kicks time to shine lads
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Okay, so fuck it. I've always said that I'll be here as long as it's fun, and while the games were incredibly exciting (and also frustrating) from the inside view, all this bullshit around it has been the opposite of fun, and I don't think the good has been outweighing the bad lately, what with the droning dullness of repeat 17 and two years of backstage drama that can't seem to go away, so perhaps I really am the problem.
The cups I've been a part of have been great no matter the result, and I'll cherish the fun times for a long time, it's just too bad that it was marred by all the crap around it.
Best of luck to the lads carrying on in future cups, but it's time for me to watch from the stands, free myself from the bullshit and focus just on the fun parts again.
##módníkůň
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>>33393768
Man, sorry that it's gotten that bad for you. I'm just one of the randos watching the stream and have cheered on the team and managers since I found the cup. Thanks for what you've done for the team and I hope the cup becomes fun for you again.
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>>33393768
Really now? Sorry the stress got to you if that's the case. I'm just lurking, but it's sad to see someone from the team go like that. Thanks for your time though.
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>>33393768
I'm not gonna kick you when you're down, but this is probably for the best. Thanks for your positive contributions and I hope we can all move past the negative ones.
>tfw the "new managers" are all retired now and we've entered the age of new new managers
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>>33393815
Nah mate if anything now is the time to kick me even harder, so nobody will regret it and I won't have thoughts about coming back into this madness
don't be all faggy remember it's just virtual divegrass and it doesn't really matter
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>>33393768
>Happily retired and finally free again
Wow you okay bro? Don't do anything stupid now.
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Who's left now between the managers and testers experience-wise? We have all newer ones now?
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>>33393778
>Twilight
>didn't read
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>>33393768
I think the problem was all the fuck ups and how much it seemed to run on rails instead of being maleable enough for the thread to participate
Either way, good luck wherever you go lad, hope you can have your fun

Oh also RIP >4 H O U R S
You ll be missed pham

>>33393778
Gifs like this always remind me how much I miss socially awkward Twi from years past
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Now that he's off, /mlp/ on TTC when?
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>>33393826
I'M FED UP WITH THIS WORL

>>33393829
There's Emulpee, our fountain of knowledge and star-winning export designer who's been here so long he might as well be a museum piece, Tuvalu, the lass that has been around for probably over a year now as well and has the most experience with 18 going onward, and half a dozen testers capable of some amazing insight and enough willpower to test for hours
We'll be as alright as RNG allows
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now that t.sparx is ded can we bring back PMB/BGP
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>>33393848
Oh, okay. Not as worried now.
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>>33393768
>naming ScarfAnon
For what purpose? I've never seen you two fight. It's always with BGP.
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>>33393824
Since you asked
>If I'm going down I'm taking you all with me
is the height of cringe. Whatever differences you all had behind the scenes, that shit never interested me and I hate to see your final contribution as bringing that into the thread. That sucks. I feel bad reading it. You should feel bad posting it. That's all I got. Hope you find happiness.
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>bring more faggotry to increase the faggotry levels off the charts
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>>33393966
at least those faggots are good at PES :^)
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>>33393995
If that's what it takes to win the 3rd star before G4 ends, so be it!
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>>33394031
I swear if /mlp/ wins it now right after the last "nu-manager" quit illl say that it was all RNG and i could do better
Who do i even talk to to join testing now?
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>>33393899
Wasn't he at the panel they did at BABS one year?
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>>33394046
Emulpee and Tuvalu, the team isn't managerless la.
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>>33394050
If I remember he just called himself ScarfAnon, I only saw the video once tho
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>>33393768
>that manifesto
Fucking hell, lad
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>>33394087
Well, what can I say.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5C4eaiDd4Ls
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Sounds like I missed a lot. Since I came home from work late and now seen all this, I'll be digesting it all tomorrow morning after a needed sleep. Already 3am here. Regrettably I wasn't here sooner. Any outstanding drama will be nipped in the bud though and anything else team and event wise will be sorted out appropriately. Still not managed to read and digest this thread, which I'll do in the morning, but I felt it appropriate to acknowledge the situation. See you all soon.

Thanks for everything TSparx. If only I was around sooner to give a better response.
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>>33393768
don't shoot up any schools dude holy fucking shit
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>>33394125
I'm not a burger anon, don't worry
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>>33393768
I did only one post in the past saying that that was going to be my first and last post on /mlp/. Hearing this it saddnes me. Already Magicblue gone was bad, but also you, shit.

Also I told you already in private, I wish you the best.
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>>33393768
Okay, so guessing these two posts were the nail in the coffin >>33393679 >>33393712 , but if it really is just for fun, as you've stated, and you re unwilling to open it for the board to participate, like an /mlp/league, then why the hell not do what was said and leave your team for BGP or give yours to a tester and give him /bug/? Was literally the easy way out of this drama and if its really for fun it doesnt matter if the try hards win
I can't wait for the Shadowbolts to win, AGAIN.

I swear for all the "fun" you talk about, you've been the less fun manager to have around, always putting more fire in things instead of calming both sides and/or letting things run their course. If you cant into people management and politics then tell another fag to do it instead of burning yourself up

Anyway, good luck wherever you go, you're not too bad yourself...baka
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>>33388344
>/x/
Settle down faggots just testing
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>>33394223
Thanks mate, means a lot from you, truly.

>>33394226
It was never in my nature to be the PR sweet-talking guy, that is true. But forcing myself into biting my tongue and being a bullshitter wouldn't make me any more happy, so in the end, it doesn't even matter
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>>33394226
that's the thing, he claims it's about fun but he revels in drama. the dude is mental
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>>33394260
Then put the next fag in charge, you let MB do the talking before, you could have let Tuvalu do it now. Although the now is past, so keep it as a lesson for you and also for the future managers reading.
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>the current state of this team
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>>33394302
>let MB do the talking
Nah m8 I speak for myself. But more seriously there's one person who has to be the designed shit-talker, thread communicator, punching bag, and diplomat. Whoever it is ends up getting all the blame/credit regardless of how responsible they actually are. Sparx tended to say what he thought rather than being diplomatic about it, but it was never like a conscious choice to bully managers out of the way or hog the spotlight.
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>>33394345
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DmYLrxR0Y8
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>>33394263
>every thread is TSparx fighting with BGP/fighting with fans/damage controlling 4 HOURS/damage controlling no polls/damage controlling no tactics changes/etc.
I don't know when things got bad, but they stayed bad every thread for months. Was it always like this?
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>>33392149
If we're posting jew ponies, anyone have the jew mare from that green about anon and Sapphire Shores?
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>>33394374
No, but I think 2015-2016 tainted the general mentality. Two stars in two years affected expectations and how a lot of fans viewed the team/management. If /mlp/ wasn't always on top and winning, then everything was shit. It sucked a lot of the fun out of the cup and /mlp/ took on a more /sp/ kind of view. It sucks, but I dunno how you can undo something like that.
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>>33394388
Did someone say joos?
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>>33393768
Dammit all, I hate watching friends leave.
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>>33394374
Well, it takes 2 to tango. It's not only TSparx who's arguing there. There's a lot of shitflinging from various posters here and being the visible manager responding to the viewers will inevitably create drama. Remember, it is an anonymous board and some here have no compulsions against creating drama just for the sake of drama.

>>33394407
This I believe is also part of it. What happened to the fans who would support /mlp/ through thick and thin, without kicking up major shitstorms for not winning everything left and right? It's virtual divegrass with a horse team on the field, it should be for fun and not serious business.
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>>33393768
Goodbye tsparx. I think you're kind of a fag but I still appreciate your contributions to the team. Thanks for everything.
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>tfw you're a neutral non-pony that respected TSparx immensely and thought he'd be the one bringing /mlp/ back to glory
I guess this is it. I hope you do okay in the future and continue to enjoy the cup, if you're reading this
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>>33394423
>What happened to the fans who would support /mlp/ through thick and thin, without kicking up major shitstorms for not winning everything left and right?
The old management was very direct and apologetic, they always got our support because they were always humble and did this shit for the collective and board. They were representatives to a huge and tight community, so they acted appropriately. And so they were received quite well. Tsparx is the fucking worst at communicating and says the stupidest shit which riles people up. We're not /sp/, we've never even entertained the idea of sacking management past a few heated moments where even then it was unlikely. Most people have forgiven them for fucking everything and most people still root for the team at every moment. Why the fuck would you put yourself in the limelight of an anonymous imageboard then not expect to get vitrol sent your way when something fucks up? It should be expected.
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>>33394423
People were ready to sack everyone in Summer 16 as well until PMB came in under a different name to calm things down, remember that?
And it only got worse with the /clop/ split that turned everything into an argument between old managers and new managers.
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>>33394461
This, also when you put yourself out there in the light you're not really putting your own self but the team as a whole, and that's where I think TSparx failed the most, taking things personally instead of speaking as the team, otherwise we're all Anons here.
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>>33393768
F, you were a good lad
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>>33394475
>that's where I think TSparx failed the most, taking things personally instead of speaking as the team
That says it perfectly. Good shit, anon. I was thinking this without having the words to put it together.
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>>33394461
Yet old managers like BGP are the ones who keep coming into threads to stir up drama and make sure if the team is losing no one is having fun. If they had issues with the new managers, it should have stayed behind the scenes and not the cup threads.
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>>33394546
>Yet old managers like BGP are the ones
Who else? I only see BGP doing that. PMB is fucking dead, Darkbow is fucking dead, Shadowtester is fucking dead, NBD is fucking dead, who am I missing? It's one guy and even then BGP isn't always wrong. He should find a better way to say things but he sometimes points out good stuff and TSparx always got emotional and shit on it. Besides it's 4chan, do you respond to every anon who calls you a retarded faggot? No, you choose how you respond on this website. You'll go crazy otherwise, like TSparx and his manifesto.
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>>33394546
>like BGP
Pretty sure it's just BGP. He retired years ago but just can't let it go and loved stirring up bullshit
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Okay, from an outsider perspective, I can tell this:

I fucking see BGP yelling for #removingmanagers from time to time. And fucking why? Cause he's a fucking retard. No one but him and maybe HT better encapsulates the idea of "Manager FC". BGP isn't here for /mlp/, BGP is for his fucking "legacy", his unsoiled baby that he thinks everyone abuses.

I might even give him his PES knowledge, but to me it sounds like just another useless NEET thing that he loves to flex to show off how big of a dick he has between his legs. But instead of being helpful and insightful he comes off as someone that should be a manager but isn't because he is too afraid he can take a fall.

No instead he prefers to kick people that are already lying in the dirt and show off his medal that he won for the first place at the retard Olympics that is the 4cc.

If anything better reflects on his legacy is his behaviour, which is nothing but arrogance and refusal to leave. And why he refuses to leave? Because he's most likely a nobody outside of the cup and this is the only place he holds any semblance of 'fame' and 'power'. So when the cup or the board finally dies, he will be left with nothing. Until then though he continues to be the saltiest, loud mouthing, no-fun-allowed faggot that should've long left cup long ago.

Just quit BGP. Stop fucking up the team and the cup by your incessant whining. It will be better for all of us. And most certainly better for any future managers.
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>>33394546
At least it's all over now. Old-old retired managers were beefing with old-new managers who are now also retired. This should be the end of it, thankfully.
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>>33394591
Wew lad BGP quit years ago. You can watch the cup as long as you want.
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>This should be the end of it
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>>33394614

He still hangs around and acts like an authority, so no. He didn't quit at all.
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>This should be the end of it
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>>33394612
Ib4 old-new managers think new-new managers shoul do things differently while old-old managers tell new-new managers about old-new managers.....

Cant we just drop this faggotry and say managers/retired managers?
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We're finally free
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>This should be the end of it
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>>33394614
It's one thing to retire and wish the new management well. It's another to stop into the threads every time /mlp/ loses to say the managers don't know what they're doing and you could totally have won if you were in charge.
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>>33394626
That's not what quit means. Check the wiki he ain't there.
>>33394639
That's true you right, but BGP isn't the only person in planet Earth doing that in these threads, either. 4chan is about freedom of speech and he uses his to say he's mad about stuff. It's not right or wrong just the way 4chan is.
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>>33394666
No, but BGP is the only former /mlp/ manager displaying this behavior. It's less about right or wrong and more about having a modicum of class. If he were willing to step up again and put his money where his mouth is, that would be a different matter. Instead he relies on past glory (of which he wasn't the only contributor) to act like he's the PES whisperer, while contributing nothing.
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>>33394694
I'm give you that it would be better if BGP came out of retirement. At the same time though I read this thread and saw him trying to help and TSparx said no so
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>>33394700
>saw him trying to help
Which post?
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>>33394709
Trying to do tactics for /bug/ >>33392448
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>>33394730
What does that have to do with helping /mlp/?
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>>33394736
Testing tactics? You're being obtuse.
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>>33394740
Which is why Sparx gave /bug/ to one of the current testers, to get more experience with testing tactics, and not a retired manager that is no longer involved with the cup. Instead BGP thought /bug/ belonged to him and was upset that he wasn't briefed.
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>>33394740
Except the FAG is going to be on 18 while the cup is going to be on 16 so none of these tactics will matter until at least spring. Then when he was told the teams were all taken by current testers and manages, he sperged out that only he is allowed to manage his meme team.
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>>33394740
FAGs are for in house, private fun with the tactics, not what will really be used
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>>33394748
Okay but you're moving the goal posts now. I accept your concession. BGP offered to help with tactics, TSparx said no and asked someone else to do it. Like I said. I want BGP to come back but if the managers won't let him help with testing tactics then they won't let him join as a full fledged manager so you can't hold that against him for not becoming a manager when it's not gonna be allowed.
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>>33394763
>help with tactics
I think you're confusing the FAGs with the FTs
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>>33394773
Be real: if BGP said "I am coming out of retirement and I want to help with the export and tactics," do you think the managers would say yes or no? Don't lie we both know the answer.
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>>33394791
Be real: do you understand the difference between the FAGs and the FTs?
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>>33394801
FT tested real tactics for the cup, FAG is for fun. Your turn.
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>>33394801
I think you replied to the wrong Anon, just a hunch
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>>33394812
Then why do you think BGP wanting to be involved with the FAGs has anything to do with testing tactics?
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>>33394822
Answer my question faggot >>33394791
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>>33394825
Has BGP said he wants to come out of retirement? Because every post he's made in the last couple years has said the opposite.
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>>33394833
Answer the question.
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>>33394835
You're asking me to answer on behalf on the current managers. I don't know what they would decide so you'd have to ask them. But the point is moot unless BGP even wants to come out of retirement, which he has said he does not.
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>>33394841
I'm asking for your best guess, because I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt that you're a functioning human being with a brain. I'll go first: fuck no. If BGP said he was coming back, the managers would post laughing ponies and delete his name from the wiki. So, you can't hold it against BGP that he isn't coming out of retirement because we both know that's not really an option on the table. He's basically shadowbanned from the team. "Why he no be a manager again?" is you pretending to be retarded.
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>>33394850
You can postulate your hypotheticals all you wish, dude. Let me know when BGP claims he wants to join up again and gets shot down. I'm not interested in playing a guessing game.
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>>33394850
not him. I think they would let him juin as a tester let him test some tactics then when he can't produce reliably butter tactics then anyone else he might shut up
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>>33394861
BTFO admit it dude "guessing game" lmao it's so obvious like scroll up and read the wall of autistic screeching TSparx posted
>>33394864
Thank you for actually answering even though you're not him. I think you're being naive about that but maybe I'm being a pessimist.
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>>33394867
>/mlp/ team is just TSparx
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>I'm asking for your best guess
>"guessing game" lmao
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>>33394874
>the remaining managers were all brought in by the anti-BGP brigade
Yeah no I'm sure they feel differently and would welcome him with open arms.
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>>33394878
"Guessing game" implied it was a coin toss and no educated prediction was possible. This is retarded for anyone reading this very thread. What is your stake? I want BGP back so my cards are on the table. Who are you doing damage control for?
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>>33394867
fwiw I would let him join and test if he wanted to because I don't have the authority to decide on who gets and doesn't get to help the team, the door is always open to anyone
I'm not saying I'd enjoy it and if it was just the same old deal I probably would've packed my things sooner rather than later, but still
and a sidenote as others already said what we do in FAGs is not about finding out the best tactics, it's more of a fucking around showcase deal, we decide(d) on exports for the cups differently since the gauntlets weren't ideal for that
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>>33394883
No one in particular. I think BGP is a twat, but if he actually stepped up to the plate I'd support him. I used to think Sparx was a good dude until he posted that exhaustive wall of drama with his retirement post.
I support /mlp/ through better or worse, because it should be about the team and not the managers.
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>>33394889
I can't get over it. Imagine writing a seething shitpost and sitting on it for A YEAR AND A HALF counting the days until you can post it. Holy fucking shit dude. Like I remember shit storms where TSparx would come in and say manager drama doesn't belong in the threads. LOL
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>>33394914
I wasn't sitting on it, I wrote it back then to explain my point of view to the other lads and just dug it up and screencapped it now for this
and it's fine, all I am is an autist with too much free time on my hands like all the others and you shouldn't idolize any of us tripfags because that shit's gay
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>>33393768
That's not what I expected to wake up to.

I'm very sorry to hear about this. TSparx has been an absolute toplad to work with. He has taught me a lot, and his experience and record amount of testing autism will sorely be missed.

Apparently I am the head manager now, and starting on a PES where I have zero experience isn't exactly ideal. However, Emulpee knows what he's doing, and livemanaging will stay somewhat of a team effort like it was under MB and TS. I am sure everyone in the team will give it their all in winter.

Also FAGs continue as planned
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>>33394972
Good luck, lad lass?
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>>33394972
Please please don't be a faggot
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>>33393768

Thanks for everything you did for the team and wishing you the best from another longtime lurker.

Stay save!
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>>33394979
Is the word "manager" masculine? If so, We can call Tuvalu "lad" regardles of sex.
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>>33394992
>has no waifu
>expecting not being a faggot
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Just to set the record straight, me managing a team in the FAGs is not about helping the management at all. I'm not in their chat, so beyond providing a "tryhard" export for them to test against I'm not offering anything. Me playing in the FAGs is just for fun, because at the end of the day I still enjoy /mlp/ and mucking around with PES a bit. The only difference between me and anyone else of the board having a team in the FAGs is that I have everything already set up and have the connections to ask for a free spot.

Therefor, if the management says there's no room for me as all the open team spots have been assigned to managers/testers, that's perfectly fine. It's a new version of PES and they need the experience.

The issue is that I don't like it that the team I created is being given away to someone else without me even knowing about it. And when I state that I would really prefer no one else to touch my team as I consider it a rather personal thing, I end up getting called a "cunt" and being spited about it for lulz.

Come on man. Making teams isn't hard. By god everyone knows my rosters always suck ass and the teams are carried by funny goalhorns and anthems. /bug/ itself was created because all the aesthetics already existed and it was just a matter of repacking it under one team. During the first Friendship Tests, The Wonderbolts had one shitty five minute head model (literally just a sphere) with a bunch of randomly generated color combination retextures thrown together by Smugleaf of all people, and a kit created with the ingame kit designer. Hell, you could probably create a faggot deer team in a pinch, considering the Thorax model already exists and the rest of the spots would be a bunch of gay retextures of the existing changeling head model (which was originally the ref head model from winter17, iirc).

Point is, don't puppet around other people's stuff if you haven't asked. That shit's frowned upon everywhere, and this shouldn't be any different.
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>>33395159
How about you fuck off for good.

Every time its the same. When the team dont go the way you want you whine hard. Then when it does good you crawl back. But you NEVER want the helm again because you know despite your "expertise" its RNG that decide cup winners.

At this point youre not worse than the copypasta. Youve been a thorn to the side of the management for years while not giving a fuck about how it really goes. Even if they let you back in youd blame their micromanagement.

Also you didnt "create" this team. NBD did. And then theres PMB who did all the test work and media presence for 2016. Why is it that those dude are gone while you, the professional whiner, stick around and piss off everyone above you?
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>>33394972
is your management separated from that club mentioned in the post now, will you still have the same PGB/BGP old guard constantly shitposting you for the new set of management
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>>33395159
Stop trying to find excuses at being a toxic shitter you cunt.
You retired. Twice now. Own it for once and stop pissing off whats left of management.
The only good thing you could do for this point would be to convince darkbow, MB, or PMB to come back so that they would help the team instead of you. But those guys know when to quit and not be an annoying shitstain.
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>>33395159
It's not your team, it's our team comrade.
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>>33395195
>its RNG that decide cup winners.
Stopped reading there.
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>>33395200
>>33395202


You misunderstand me. I'm not talking about /mlp/, I'm talking about a meme team. The context for this discussion is the Friendship Tests/Friendship Association Games, not the cup. I've never claimed ownership of /mlp/, as that would be ridiculous.
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>>33395211
Who the fuck is Alexa?
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>>33395211
Nobody believes that. You've been annoying the current management for years now, and everyone is talking about your potential management with the cup.

Well bravo. Now we have practically no management and were gonna crash in winter. Sad when we had good results on the pes 18 tourney.
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>>33395195
It is not just about players being retarded or having a hangover showing up in purple condition. There are tactics and formations that are complete shit even if you run green against red. It is also important how team is constructed in the first place. For example you will NEVER make SS behave like true wingers even on wide. And changing attacking tactics to wide will make the whole prformance different, not just of those Wingers. So if The team is poorly constructed you will have a really hard time finding good countertactics and everything will go down to a coin toss.
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>>33395218

I suggest you read the thread rather than out of the blue inject some weird narrative to paint me as a villain based on the ramblings of the one dude who manages to be a saltier asshat than me as he rants about people or events he was barely involved with.

Also, Winter will not be on PES18. The upcoming event is irrelevant in regards to winter. Also the management is like ten people apparently, so there's no shortage of hands on deck.
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>>33395230

This is a pretty good post. To put things in perspective for people who don't really understand or care about futbol tactics; cup teams can be summed up in three categories:

1. Meme teams
2. Meh teams
3. Cup contenders

Meme teams are teams that don't give a shit about winning. Good examples would be oldschool /b/ and [s4s], where their tactics were decided by random rolls. These teams add a lot of entertainment as they tend to be shit on purpose, which makes it fun when they do well.

Meh teams are teams that have a plan behind them, but not much more than that. They tend to have weird setups or are weak tactically because the manager doesn't really care or doesn't have the time to tryhard. Because PES AI acts as an equalizer, teams of this category can still do well if they get lucky, but in the long run the tryhard teams will prevail as they are more consistent.

Cup contender teams generally are teams that are setup to take maximum advantage of the meta. This makes these teams hard to beat, as they rarely have any weaknesses, and even if they have any weaknesses it demands you have an actualcounter formation to take advantage of it as tactics rarely do the job.

As knowledge of the game grows, more teams evolve from meh teams to cup contender teams, which means the cup gets more RNG as a result. You can basically view it as better teams having more dice to roll which means they can get a higher overall roll, but eventually there's a cap to how many dice you can have which means everyone who cares enough will eventually be rolling the same amount of dice.
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>>33394972
Just to clarify, there's not really a "head manager" so to speak. Me and Tuv are the only verified ones left on the wiki and will likely split up responsibilities rather than lump everything on one person.
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>>33395270
will likely split up responsibilities rather than lump everything on one person.
As it should be so noeither of you get the full wrath of BGP and the thread after a loss.
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>>33395233
Why can't you just leave like the others?
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>>33395287

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiQpH3xp6Co
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>>33395254
Where does /mlp/ fit in those categories?
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>>33395294

In terms of formation, cup contender.
In terms of tactics, usually meh.
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>>33395288
Except you've not been part of the ship for 3 years now and you're pretty much just an anchor that slows it down that people want to cut off.
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>>33395294
/mlp/
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Hey BGP. I just waned to congratulate you, since this is the first instance that someone made a manager ragequit for any team, since I dared PMB to nuke his trip
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>>33394972
>Team is now being carried by a no-waifu fag
OH NO
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>>33395270
Yeah this. It's a team effort and my earlier post might have been a bit rushed because I discovered TSparx retirement minutes before
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>>33395327
Who's the best pony?
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When are you people gonna stop pretending that this is a skill based esport and not a luckfest?
I am surprised sparx lasted as long as he did dealing with all your delusional expectations.
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>>33395331
Isn't it obvious.
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>>33395357
8 years of infighting would imply otherwise ^:)
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>>33395360
>anon never woke up
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>>33395357
This anon is wrong
>>33395360
This anon is right
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>>33395372
ya better not break your monitor again ^:)
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>>33395372
Finally you show us her instead of hiding behind "everypony is best pony" claims
As a Celestiafag Im disappointed
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>>33395218
>Nobody believes that
I believe that. It helps that I can read.
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>>33395287
Why can't you fuck off and shut up? I want him back and I'll take him showing up in the threads. You don't speak for /mlp/.
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>>33395442
And why do you want him back? He's only made the last 3 managers hate his guts with his autism.
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>>33394546
>>33394591
>>33394639
To anyone wondering why BGP is/was doing what he was doing, I think Lear summed it up in one of the First Bait neatly. To paraphrase, "/mlp/ under /clop/ was a machine. They had a process, and everything. And it worked. /mlp/ was force to be reckoned with, two stars in a year, top of the top. And then you pass the torch to someone new, they completely alter the process, and the first thing you see is your (so to speak) team crash and burn into fetus. And you can't help but have that tingle, that maybe if things were done your way, as they were before, just maybe, then it'd be different." He later added that the reason he straight out disappeared after retirement was to avoid just that

>>33394629
Well if Lear's words are anything to go by, this won't stop anytime soon.

>>33393768
Never liked you that much but leaving the team under some literal who >vglel shitter is even worse GIVE ME SOLO EMULPEE/BRING BACK BGP/AUTOPILOT OR GIVE ME DEATH
Still, godspeed and have fun in Winter
1st blood of 2019. To look on the bright side, at least you gave /mlp/ a #1 in something.
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>>33395460
Nostalgia probably but I associate BGP with the cantankerous element of /mlp/. His tactical insights are interesting and I like reading them in the thread. I don't agree with his criticism all the time, but that criticism from a "high profile" person stops these threads from becoming an insufferable manager-worshipping hugbox. As far as the teams performance, we've been worse since he left. There's been a lot of change since then so I don't know how much BGP has to do with the dip in quality, but it's undeniable. And as far as I remember, he never ever shit on fans the way TSparx did on the regular. BGP punches up.
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>>33395473
What about winter last year? What was that?
Also did you forget NBD and the others? Why would BGP get all the credit back then? Even our tactics for our babby win were "helped" by testerbro.

I agre that that theres a managerial hugbox, but let's not forget that you're doing the same by glorifying BGP just because he was part of the team then. He acted like a shithead many times, and got us hated by the management. For example with the card drama. He's not the most sensible guy to have discussion with, and this constant shitflinging he has done for the last 3 years doesn't help. So no I don't want him back, even if it means the team would do better (it wouldn't, again we went to finals in winter and for example we won that mini Pes18 tourney) because he has just been obnoxious for the last 3 years of his "retirement".
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>>33395473
>And as far as I remember, he never ever shit on fans the way TSparx did on the regular.
Fans were never as aggressive back then, and in fact one of the reasons fans were so aggressive last year was because of BGP rousing the thread up.
In fact BGP's attitude was far more to not give a fuck than anything.
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>>33395484
The fact remains. Old managers had more respect for negative feedback from fans and treated fans with more respect. I know because I've given a lot of it over the years. I'm putting it out there that I appreciated that and remember it. BGP even now is being civil with you guys jumping up his ass. Emulpee is always nice. Darkbow was short and to the point, but always nice. PMB was apologetic to the point of character limit, even to the end when everybody hated him. It was/is different with the old crew.
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So let me get this right
>TSpark fucked off
>BGP is a faggot that loves stirring up shit but won't take the team and put his money where his mouth is
>The team is left in the hands of two people one of which is a no waifu literal who
>Shitposters and newfags want Princess "lost a star" Cadance and Glimmer as medals and Tracy removed
>The winter cup is in February
Good
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>>33395526
It means fun is back on the table once again.
Wouldn't have it any other way tbdesu.
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>>33395315
That is one damn smug dragonpone
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>>33395217
It's amazon's Siri, featured in their "smart speakers"
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>>33395540
Thats not a dragonpone.
This is
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>>33395315
Did you really want pmb to fuck off forever or were you just shitposting when you did that? He really did fuck off so that's kinda not cool.
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>>33395526
Cadence did nothing wrong.
The rest I agree with.
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>>33395552
He was pulling off BGP back then, except with much more autism. I basically told him "you retired man, why the fuck do you now come back here with the trip on and act like a big deal."

And having the knowledge of just what he tried to pull behind the scenes, I'm hardly sympathetic.
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>>33395557
>And having the knowledge of just what he tried to pull behind the scenes, I'm hardly sympathetic.
If by that you mean the no manager drama, then IIRC BGP pretty much share his opinion.
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>>33395559
How about the drama when PMB almost literally took over the cup from Lear with his written out agenda
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Having managers sure made this thread good huh
>>33395561
Based fuck Canadians
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>>33395559
I mean trying to literally take over the cup, to the point of having a 7-sheet commisioner manifesto and a shadow cabinet ready.

There's not reason not to want to remove managers though
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>>33395564
>7-sheet commisioner manifesto
Reminder that some of the official rules of the cup we have today are almost verbatim copied from this manifesto of his
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>>33395576
where is that manifesto
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>>33393768
Thank you for your service.

>>33395486
People forget that PMB stated that Summer '16 was essentially all luck because of how much of a diceroll 16 was just like the 2nd place last Winter. Although making an export worse than the Winter export in Spring '17 was the most retarded thing the new crew ever did.
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>>33395584
I mean you can say the new crew but both Summer 16 and Spring 17 exports were designed by Emulpee so, you know, it's not all luck and diceroll only when you win
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>>33395590
Old crew
>when we won we were lucky, when we lost we deserved it
New crew
>when we won we deserved it, when we lost it was bad luck
Top option is more realistic and humble.
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WISH WE COULD TURN BACK TIME
TO THE GOOD OLD '15
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>>33395605
What are you talking about? Even when they won they know they're lucky.
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>>33393768
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shR2p0c2XJo
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>>33395605
I'm pretty certain that even in the amazing run last winter they were still saying that they got lucky to get where they were.
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>>33395605
You like the top option more because it gives you tingles on your cock when you hear a tripfag humiliate himself and tell you how hard he worked for your happiness
fact is that nobody on 4chan owes anybody else on 4chan shit and it's always about luck, win or lose, but you wanna have that show, you wanna see the people who put hours into this shit, just to entertain you, to tell you how sorry they are that they disappointed you, even if they're in fact powerless, because that feels good and you're entitled to that third star after all
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>>33395622
based.
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>>33395622
I mean, yeah I like the entertainment of watching the cup. Wtf else is there to like? I dicked around in PES a while back though and my limited experience was that I could always force a loss, but getting a win was random as fuck. Making a bad team or bad tactical changes is totally within your power in a way that making a good team or good changes is not. Hey jump on my cock some more though feels good man.
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>>33395622
>that nobody on 4chan owes anybody else on 4chan shit
False. One anon owes me 20 bucks.
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>>33395643
I told you I'd send it first thing on Monday fuck off get off my back
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>>33395645
Miss a day and the Kirin gets it
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>>33395658

not the floof

NOT THE FLOOF
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>>33395658
You wouldn't do it, faggot.
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>>33395658
Fuck, sound the DEFCON 5 alarms, THIS IS NOT A DRILL
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>>33395717
>DEFCON 5
Anon, I...
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>>33395800
Oh, i inverted the order...
Guess the kirin will get a new haircut then
Im sorry
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>>33395811
One job, faggot, one job...
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Why does everybody always forget about the contact page?
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Contact#.2Fmlp.2F
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>>33395830
because nobody goes on the contact page
fixed it now
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>>33393768
Well shit niggah, sorry i sperged out in the threads on occasion. I hope you enjoy retirement.
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>>33395894
>nobody goes on the contact page
How would I know if I didn't went there?
Checkmate m8.
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>>33394972
Hope you have a tough skin dude/ette. Good luck.
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>>33395919
You're a nobody.
checkm8m8
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>>33393768
While I didn't fully agree with your mindset on PES's RNG, I appreciated you speaking your mind despite the reaction it tended to get. It's a shame MB and you never seemed to get along super well with the retired old guard, but I'm not sure it could've been avoided.

>>33395605
>New crew
>>when we won we deserved it, when we lost it was bad luck
>
Remember Autumn, when people said that TSparx ruined their enjoyment of winning by saying it was all RNG anyways?
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>>33396034
shhh don't interrupt the forming narrative
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>>33395577
Here's the copy that got posted on /4ccg/ of the google doc.
https://pastebin.com/AxT7NjP0
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>>33395658
YOU MONSTER
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>>33395830
>Emulpee has a skype but no discord
based
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>>33396345
that's just another case of not updating the contacts page because nobody goes on the contacts page
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>>33396350
cringe
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>>33396378
He's right though emulpee has a discord
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>>33396048
well after some reading some of that manifest has some great ideas (some of which i see got implemented on 4cc) but some stupid ones like the team participation poll
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>>33393768
Bye faggot, make sure to rant about how it was all just RNG on the way out
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>>33396925
Don't worry none about that, that's a given
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>>33396925
You know what wasn't RNG?
Anonfilly getting shown the door
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>actually thinking sparx is out
lmao
He's got his toplads set up all over the team, he's going to manage from the shadow now.
It was only done to fool people and if things go bad he can say dindu nuffin and put mr broken monitor in front of the thread.
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>>33396980
delete this right now motherfucker I ain't playin
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>>33396980
I, for one, welcome our new monitor-smashing overlords
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>>33396925
Dont be a faggot, faggot



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