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>How to get into KR and where to start?
https://kamenriderguide.weebly.com

>List of subbed series
http://tokusubs.wikia.com/wiki/Tokusubs_Wiki

>Direct Download Links
https://pastebin.com/WY53idme

>Kamen Rider Monster Compilation
https://mega.nz/#F!kooh0SoC!NRacXc2D1PtfyU1dt0u8Qw!tkQVmJDC

>/krg/ archives
https://pastebin.com/abg94J2s

>Zi-O 48 Preview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lY3I9aOejkM&t=0s
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BITRISE
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The decade parts are unironically ruining Zi-O. It could have been a decent series otherwise
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>>17696675
How terrifying.
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C’mon guys, Type Formula didn’t look THAT bad.
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>>17696712
It is more ridiculous than Decade Complete.
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>>17696652
>Nuclear reactor balls
goddamn
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>>17695558
He knows about the V-Cinema form
He will be dealt with accordingly
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>Schwartz and Alpina exist in World A
>World A is going to be destroyed just because
>Schwartz goes into Sougo's world (World B)
and tell him to become king
>Tosses Alpina to World B
>Time Paradox shenanigans, Sougo becomes Ohma Zi-O
>Geiz and Tsukuyomi went back to 2018 to stop Sougo
>Sougo chose to become Ohma Zi-O to save Tsukuyomi
>Timeloop

So where does SOUGO fit in this? Did Schwartz failed every previous loop?
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>>17696863
The movie doesn't count.
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>>17696712
I think it looks neat because it looked like a transformer
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>>17696712
The yellow helmet and giant sunglasses sorta distract its overall appearance, and then there's the giant chest that restrains arm movement. Other than that, it has the least "wheel" problem out of all the Drive forms besides Tridoron, and the custom logos are neat.
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>>17696652
What Riders are the most given into theatrics?
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>>17696966
Zero-One is apparently a comedian
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>>17696966

My slowly developing OC Rider is movie-themed, he uses film reels to transform and his upgrades are movies he finishes
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>>17696863
"Real" Sougo knew about Swartz's plan and sabotaged his attempt to find him (he is the one that uses powers during the incident with Hiryu, making Swartz think that Sougo was the chosen king of time).

He had a similar plan to Swartz's though, using Watches to bring together different worlds, although his plan was to use his control over the Watches to create a new world that would follow his will.

SOUGO's group seems like they were outside of time, so they aren't part of the Oma Zi-O loop, aside from sending Woz to observe him in the future.
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Rate my trinity.
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>>17696992
3/3
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>>17696712
All drive forms except Mach and maybe Drive's base form make me want to vomit

His driver that uses hot wheels to transform makes me want to vomit

Why couldn't it have been different keys instead?
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>>17696977
>his upgrades are movies he finishes

Like finishes making? Or just finishes watching? If he only had to finish watching a movie it seems like it would be really easy to get upgrades.
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>>17696992
I didn't save up my gems like chump.
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>>17697004

No the idea is he's a film director/Kamen Rider. So he makes the movies
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>>17697005
I nevered really looked at one of these screenshots before, but the detail on the Ziku Driver is pretty impressive.
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>>17696712
Any problems I might have with the aesthetic of the form are more than made up for by how cool its fights are.
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>>17697010
That's cool, it would be a great idea to have a Kamen Rider who is an artist who uses his creations as upgrades since you could have him be inspired by the events of the show, and each upgrade would be very rewarding.
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>>17696992
>Waste everything pulling for Oma
>Nothing good comes out
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>>17697015

I just need better motivation to develop it. I already have a villain Rider and a support, but not much else other than "Magnum Opus Form"
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>>17697015
Build is kinda like this
>Get HawkGattling, then he creates a gun to go with it
>Get NinninComic, creates a sword to go with it
>Gets KaizokuRessha, creates a bow for it
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>>17697025
Just do different genres for different forms
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>>17697034
Don't forget anon
>tries to murder his friends with said creations almost every time
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>>17697047

That's the other idea. Kamen Rider Gore uses the Horror Reel, but the secondary Kamen Rider who has no name yet uses like indie film reels
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>>17697055
>>17697034
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>>17697056
Kamen Rider Hipster
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>>17697080

Kamen Rider Mumford and Sons
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posting OC
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>>17696712
While we’re on the subject of Drive, was it ever stated why it didn’t get a second OST or a Complete CD Box?
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>>17697048
Did they just give up after making the helmet?
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>>17697335
I assume it's some sort of official product.
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>>17696998
You sound like a faggot
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>>17697335
It has the fat gut though.
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How would you fix him?
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>>17697394
I wouldn't. An alien coming out of fucking nowhere with no relevance to anything else happening in the plot, spouting some cryptic nonsense about Kiva, then leaving in a manner that suggests there will be some sort of followup to this plot thread when there will never be any such thing is exactly what an accurate Kiva tribute should be like.
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>>17697394
Let Sugita ad-lib and give him a real backstory or character instead of making him a boring character whose only purpose was to cause a bit of trouble and give Woz a watch during an already messy arc.
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>>17697408
The Kiva arc being a mess is the point. They gave those two episodes to Inoue when every other episode is one of the two main writers. They knew what they were doing. They got away with getting to make a 40-minute shitpost on public television.
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>>17697411
Sure, okay.
I didn't hate the Kiva arc, but I'm saying that the way to fix Ginga is to separate him from that arc and give him a proper character.
Or at least that's how I would fix him.
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>Ginga was a Neo-Fangire all along
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I'm on like episode 25 of kiva and so far I've found it pretty enjoyable, don't really mind its interest in showing off the romance. It's nice to see Wataru trying to change as the show progresses and I think his dad is a treat to watch whenever it swaps to the past.
Probably a lot of my enjoyments comes from it being like only my third show, but I'm glad to watch it now while I can still find it a fun watch with a lot of parts I enjoy.
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>>17697394
use him in a context where his powerset and concept is more natural. Namely, a crossover between the space riders and space rangers
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>>17697394
A semi-sequel to Fourze with his forms based on the Solar System.
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>Tsukasa was fighting at half power the entire time
>Decade effectively destroyed everyone with very little effort
Quality writing.
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>>17697430
Otoya and the insert songs are the best parts of Kiva.
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>>17697437
>Decade effectively destroyed everyone with very little effort
What?
Has he even won many or any fights after his initial reveal episodes?
He struggled against Another Zi-O 2 and wasn't particularly dominating Kaito in his fight against him.
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>>17697447
>Has he even won many or any fights after his initial reveal episodes?
I don't think Decade has been in a single fight until the Another Zi-O 2 arc after he ran off early in the series.
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>>17697437
Every fight Decade's been in, for the record:
>13, 14, 15: dominates Zi-O and Geiz individually several times in fights
>16: Zi-O and Geiz team up properly for the first time, fight Decade to enough of a draw that he considers it too much of a hassle and retreats
>42, 43: fights Another Zi-O II and loses while having help from Zi-O and Geiz, beats several Another Riders, almost beats Diend but then loses due to time freezing
>47: fights Another Zi-O II and does a bit better, but Sougo does almost all the work of actually beating him

Tsukasa's win/loss record is pretty middling overall, he just almost always acts like he's just too cool for this and retreats if things aren't going his way.
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>>17697509
All that was at half power. He would have curbstomped everyone if he had all his power.
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Thinking back to Build for a second, Gentoku's weird shift in character makes perfect sense. At that point he's a man who's given up pride, arrogance, and pretty much every self-absorbed notion that made him the power-hungry warmonger he tried to be. In fights, this translates to a grim determination to make "Sacrifices for the greater good". He'll do what needs to be done if it feels it'll make his nation stronger or give him the strength to make the nation stronger.
Outside of battle, though? It translates to a critically low lack of fucks. He wears what he wants, does what he wants, because he just...can't care anymore. Misora calls him out on it? Doesn't even register to him. Utsumi has his belt and says to beg? Fuck it, he needs the belt more than his pride so he's on his knees faster than RabbitRabbit's foot was in his face.

God damn I love this dude. Also sorry if this has all been talked about before but I'm a bit late to the party.
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>>17697394
Give him Ultraman Ginga's theme
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>>17697520
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>>17697509
Tsukasa’s fights in Zi-O generally have a purpose behind them, and he doesn’t particularly put in much effort in them.

>13, 14, 15
He tested if Sougo had the potential to turn out as the Oma, showed him the direct repurcussions, and also corrected the invalid future Ghost Ridewatch.

>16
He goaded Sougo and Geiz into putting aside their differences, and subtly taught Sougo how to better utilize his Ride Armor choices.

>42, 43
He wasn’t going all out with his abilities, so he probably didn’t take it all that seriously either.

>47
Can’t relegate Sougo to the bench, gotta at least let him finish off his own counterpart since it’s Zi-O’s series.
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I want to adopt Jiiya.
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>>17697520
there's also the influence of pandora's box. the box makes whoever was exposed to it more aggressive, but once your hazard level goes high enough (or when you use a driver,can't remember which) that is undone. Gentoku is still an edgy boy because he's living with all the shit he's done, but by being accepted by Team Build he's able to move on. Shirt Era Gentoku is who Gentoku would be without the influence of Evolt, sort of like how Sento is who Katsuragi would be.
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>>17697568
It gets undo when you become a Kamen Rider or purified by the Genius bottle
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>>17697520
If we're going back to Build, i wanna get this off my chest: Why didn't Banjou fight like a boxer?! That was literally his job before he met Sento. He should've had the greatest Rider Punch in history.
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>>17697532
God he's such a fucking dork.
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Why hasn't Over-Time subbed Kamen Rider Cross yet?
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>>17697626
They have lives
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>>17697626
>Haven't done New World
>Dropped Ryuki because "we lost our provider for it :)" despite RiderTime getting subs out almost instantly
>STILL haven't done Rider Time Shinobi despite saying that was what they'd be working on since they couldn't get the Ryuki one
Guess Ignis is too busy sitting on her ass playing Overwatch or "having a life" as Ei would call it.
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>>17697626
SUBBER LIVES MATTER
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>>17697540
A pure and wholesome soul
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>>17697640
Each season they say they are going to do all sorts of projects that they never actually start. Then when people ask, they either ignore the questions, have their followers attack the people asking, or just lie and say that they are working on it.

If they don't release the video within the first 2-3 weeks of the raw existing, they are never going to do it.
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>>17697520
A lot of people complained about him being a meme, but I actually loved Gentoku the best because of that
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>>17697640
Hell, they still haven't finished Kamen Rider Brain, and it's only 2 episodes.
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>>17697656
At least we have people actually willing to pick up their slack like RiderTime, OZC and Excite. Even fucking GenmCorp was useful for a couple of things compared to OT.
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>>17696652
Have these images still never been translated?
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WE SUB WHAT WE WANT WHEN WE WANT
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How do you guys usually watch your kamen rider shows? I usually just watch a single series in marathon bursts every day till I finish but I'm wondering what other people do, especially for the more repetitive series. Can't see watching more than one series at once.
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>>17697683
超小型原子炉
https://desuarchive.org/m/thread/14224087/#14225386
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>>17697693
>marathon bursts
Yeah that's how I do it, then after I'm done I take some time off from watching Rider until I feel like watching another one.
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>>17697693
Watch the currently airing season as it gets subbed. Choose one Showa season and one Heisei season, and alternate watching episodes, usually just one episode of each per day.
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>>17697693
I usually pick a season, get everything lined up in chronological order and then binge a huge chunk until I get sick of it. Then I leave it for however long I can take it, and then binge some more.

It took me 2 months to finish Kiva simply because I binged 15 episodes per two weeks.
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>>17697693
I usually watch a show in trickles, 1 or 2 episodes at a time. Then around episode 20, I pick up the pace until i run 8 or 9 episodes in a row. Lately I tend to just watch what tickles my fancy, what suit looks cool at the moment, but I try not to stop midway. I did stop Kuuga and Agito around episode 20 because I kind of felt like I got it, and Fourze I stopped because I was watching faiz at the same time and it caught my interest a bit more.
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>>17697720
That seems like something neat to do once the new series starts up after Zi-o, might give it a try.
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Will we get a musical-styled Rider?
Not as in like Hibiki, but more like Greatest Showman kinda style.
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>>17697693

I'm really not into Blade and I've been trying to get through it so I can watch Kabuto next. For like months.
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>>17697751
Blade is great. I marathoned it in a day.
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>>17697751
I usually cheat and watch kamen rider while doing other non-intensive things that I can stop at any moment if the episode gets good, helped me a lot in finishing Den-o when Kai came in.
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>>17697751
just skip it then. honestly there's no reason to push yourself if you don't like it, you can always come back some other time.
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>>17697751
It really helps to watch all shows concurrently

Like, i load up 4 series playing on indiv vlc player screens and watch em all at once
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>>17697751
Boreido oso goredo waddyo miina bai itsu no raiku?
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>>17697762
>cheat
this is not justice
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How did amazons do financially?
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>>17697762
I had to do this a lot when catching up on Zi-o.
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So is the reason Decade's KamenRides work differently now because he's only at half-strength? Would he have full access to FormRides and shit at full strength?
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>>17697778
It was a massive hit. Did better than most Heisei Riders in terms of bluray/merch and movie box office.
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>>17697767
Based Cakeboss
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>>17697785
Hah neat, which heisei series did the worst sales wise?
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>>17697783
I don't think so. The way he works now is actually better since it allows mixing and matching abilities of different forms, something he only did with Violent Emotion previously.
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>>17697792
Hibiki; around 6-7 billion yen.
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>>17697783
He's basically using Violent Emotion but with KamenRides as well. I bet full power may actually just be an amped up Violent Emotion.
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>>17697809
>>17697793
I dunno. The KamenRides themselves are pretty weak. I mean, they're all inferior to the base form, so he can't take on a form with high power or higher defense. Other forms may have a bunch of little tricks and abilities, but against stronger enemies he'd really have no choice but to use Decade form.
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>>17696652
Oh good, you fixed it.
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which riders girlfriend makes them henshin before sex
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>>17696652
>"So, uh, the hardware is all great. No question, this is our greatest cyborg ever. ...But we ran out of budget for the exterior chassis. We have nothing to cover it up with."
>"It's cool, just use an old tracksuit."
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>>17696652
So wait.

Hongo's dick is powered by a nuclear reactor?
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>>17697693
7 episodes per day if I have a week or a month vacation. That's how I finished Build and Blade.
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>>17696863
This is all sento's fault
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>>17697839
Nadeshiko
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>>17697693
usually I used to watch 2 or 3 episodes at work and at home another 2 or 3 episodes or a movie/special/vcimena per day.
Now I'm only watching Zi-O and Taiga as tokusatsu series and watching more netflix at work only because I watched all the Heisei Kamen Rider series
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>>17697640
Ignis is a tranny?
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>>17697751
I have been trying to get through Blade for like 6 years now. I think last time i got to like 15
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>>17698021
I don't like how plain the zero one rider faces are. I have never been bothered this much by a rider design before.
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>people are obsessed with Swartz meaning black or something similar
>not just sounding similar to quartz, the crystal known for being a key component in watches
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No honorific because Banjo is a brute
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPf3b42xVoY
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>>17698032
Feeling similarly, the upgraded forms of the secondary rider look a lot better at least imo
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>>17698032
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>>17698096
Post lightning hornet pls
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>>17698096
how come Zero-One has a hybrid form with Vulcan, but no other way around
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Did anyone find what TTS voice is being used for Zero-One's belt? I wanna play with the voice
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>>17698127
Main protagonist privileges.
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>>17698130
>Did anyone find what TTS voice is being used for Zero-One's belt?
Isn't it just a heavily edited version of the guys who do the other belt sounds?
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>>17698130
http://ttsdemo.com/
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>>17698096
Looks like painted gatakiriba to me
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>>17698127
Because Zero-One has the default super key, whereas Vulcan has the Assault Trigger on top of said key. Assault Shining Hopper is just adding on the Assault Trigger. There's no way to replicate that kind of change with Assault Wolf. They're basically sharing the fancy chest-piece.
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Where to find scans for these?
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>>17698127
It's like gaim's jimber arms
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https://twitter.com/junichi_yama/status/1161128334316564480?s=20
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>>17698143
>http://ttsdemo.com/
Thanks

The "A jump to the sky turns to a Rider Kick" sounds the same except the inflection on the "Rider" part is different. Wonder if they made further modifications to the voice for the belt
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>>17698110
Thanks. This is my favorite design so far
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>>17698110
>>17698256
For real, why isn't this design Valkryie's base form instead? Cheetah would have been okay if it wasn't wasted on one side only, the EXACT SAME SIDE as Vulcan, too.
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>>17698213
>Tyramigo and Dragon Caesar in the background.

Good taste.
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>>17698213
Who?
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>>17697750
As an entire season thing? Unlikely if only because Japanese musicals don't seem to be that big. Even Precure hasn't done that despite the much heavier use of character songs. As a single Rider though it's possible if the Riders are based on genres/mediums or something.
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>>17698261
>For real, why isn't this design Valkryie's base form instead?
Because cats and dogs
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>>17697750
Niche enough so as to be as likely as a Rakugo themed rider.
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How is Ryuki?
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>>17698346
Bad, don't even look at it.
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>>17698346
he's doing fine now
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I've always wanted a cowboy themed series
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>>17698252
Type it as riderkick instead of rider kick.
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Jump!
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>>17698367
and with reverb
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>>17698375
>Rider girl art
>is just a woman wearing bits of the suit instead of the actual suit but fitted around a more female form
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>>17698381
why does it look like that Kabuto toy we don't talk about
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>>17698387
I mean, this is awesome as fuck. Except that Rising Hopper is the only ZeroOne form with armor just on its chest and legs. That said, I'd buy a figuart of this yesterday
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>>17698384
they'll call you an sjw, anon
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>>17698457
FUCK OFF YOU FAGGOT I JUST WANT MY HELMET/BODYSUIT FETISH TO BE PANDERED TO
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I find it weird that Chase got brought back but Ankh didn't
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>>17698468
Not him but I get it. I really do and girls in bodysuits is one of the few reasons I can put up with warframe.
But your phrasing sucks since it sounds like you're complaining about titties instead of wanting them packaged differently.
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>>17697430
Anon. ANon.

Listen. Before you watch Episode 29, WATCH THE MOVIE. Just do it. It would be betetr if you saw it immediately after Episode 20, but, as long as you saw it before 29, it works.

The movie is an alternate path, and ending, for Kiva. And, potentially, will soften the blow if you dislike certain elements of the second half of Kiva (and I'm not talk about the romance angle)
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>>17697686
We all do, "sempai".
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>>17698520
man he got old
i’d think he wouldnt age with all that pussyjuice he’s getting
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>>17698525
>man he got old
He's like 40 and gained a good "dad" aesthetic that will still get him pussy.
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>>17698514
The movie is overrated, it's a total shaggy dog story
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>>17698533
>born in 89
>40
Jeez.
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>>17698538
I guess, but its comfy and fun. I'm gonna try to watch it this Halloween to see if it holds up as a yearly Halloween special
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>>17698551
Arc is the best Rider movie villain of all time.
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>>17698551
Oh yeah, I remember you mentioned that the other day. I'm the anon who was watching Kiva and said i was gonna watch the movie that day(i've finished the series by now). It is comfy and a fun detour i'm just not into the commonly-held idea that it serves as a more palatable alternative ending.
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>>17698549
>he's fucking 30
>already perfecting older ladykiller look
Satoh is on a whole different level
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>>17698551
I did that last year. Spoiler it doesn't.
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>>17698574
He’s truly a visionary ahead of his time.
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>>17698553
That's objectively Eternal tho.
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>>17698578
Well I'll give it a try. Maybe its a matter of different strokes.

>>17698568
I suppose - the movies doesn't really give any further explanation on Kiva and leaves things pretty open-ended. I did like the ending a bit more though - Wataru playing with his father on stage, and his father bidding him one last farewell, as a musician, felt moving. I also liked the direction the story was going of Wataru finally going to school instead of remaining a dropout, as I felt its something the series should have tried - have Wataru find acceptance in a society that he thought would reject him.
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>>17698597
NEO FANGIRES PAPA is more memetic though.
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>>17698612
ZI-O Destiny Blast Sword Trinity?
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>>17698367
Oh shit thanks. This is pretty cool
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PULL IT
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>>17697519
Haha yeah whatever you say decade dick rider
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>>17698644
Tsukasa's dick is pretty good anon, why don't you try it?
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>>17698629
TURN, DRIFT! D-DO IT! D-D-DO IT!
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>>17697626
It's available with subs already - stop caring so much about when some other subs for it that'll just be redundant are gonna come out.
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I just realize that there is something I am wondering... how did blade ended up with 2 OP?
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>>17698660
I'd rather try Tsukuyomi's dick.
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>>17697669
Too bad we don't have fucking anyone doing Yoshihiko S3
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>>17698713
They probably thought the tone of the first OP would clash with the more serious later episodes.
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>>17698713
It comes alongside when Sho Aikawa takes over as the new main writer, probably attempting to market the change in direction since Blade was fairly unpopular compared to the previous series.
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>>17698381
Reminds me of those CrushGear toys
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>>17698713
Agito had 2 OPs, dude. So what are you trying to say?
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>>17698768
The 2nd OP was just a big advertisement of the Agito movie
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>>17698713
k but you just made me realize the chances of zero one getting a 2nd OP cause you know, new era new stuff

nah toei broke
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>>17698381
What is this from?
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>>17697693
Depends on how much I like a series. It took almost 6 months to do Wizard, 2 months for OOO, 2 months for W, 3 weeks for Build, and if I keep up my current pace I'll finish Kuuga in under 2 weeks.

This time includes all movies and V-Cinema and such.
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>>17698786
Zi-O.
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>>17697540
>Was it okay for me to dream?
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>>17698786
The Tv Asahi site. Or if you mean what it is, it's Another Tridoron, used by Another Drive in Zi-O.
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>>17698828
I wonder how Another Autovajin would look.
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>>17698836
Probably a monstrous Autovajin front + Masshigler rear.
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I don't hate Sougo, he is serviceable if under developed. But he really lacks a big presences, especially for an Anniversary rider. Decade just has this air about him, even though his show is a mess you just sort of buy that he is the destroyer of worlds. Sougo is still stuck in his dweeb phase. I don't but that he is king in the same way.

I'd have liked to see him more cocky and/or forceful. There needs to be more commanding aspect about him, especially with the whole will he become a bad guy thing.
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I've been looking for that picture of the Gills suit after water damage and moths got to it but haven't had any luck.
Does anyone here happen to have it?
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>>17698873
Is that why they use Exceed Gils in Decade?
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>>17698889
That's the one, thanks anon.
>>17698882
Yeh, they didn't care enough/didn't want to spend the money to make a new one.
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>>17698897
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>>17698889
>>17698897
>>17698899
I regularly deal with corpses but this shit is making me a lot more uneasy than those do. What the fuck.
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>>17698869
I think they didn't do that exactly because Decade was going to be hanging around so much, so they wanted to go for something different rather than a personality type that would get direct comparisons with him.

Shirakura also complained in a recent pre-Zi-O interview about the cartoonish personalities of recent Rider protagonists, accusing them of being Sentai-like (even though it's bullshit).
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>>17698902
>Shirakura also complained in a recent pre-Zi-O interview about the cartoonish personalities of recent Rider protagonists
I have rarely ever read something that retarded
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>>17698905
That sums up Shirakura.
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>>17698902
i'm glad we're not getting edgelords as riders anymore, and while shirakura may not be right regarding the personalities, both build and ex-aid suffered from "sentai team vs badguy" syndrome in the later part of the series. I think there was a conscious attempt to separate geiz and woz from zi-o when they fight badguys (unless they are in trinity), and hopefully zero-one with it's five riders already doesn't revert to the previous style.
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>>17698980
>i'm glad we're not getting edgelords as riders anymore
You keep telling yourself that
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>>17698988
* i meant as a main rider, i know horobi and jin are kinda edgy already
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>>17698991
Oh shit, so they made a 2nd one
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>>17698902
>Shirakura also complained in a recent pre-Zi-O interview about the cartoonish personalities of recent Rider protagonists, accusing them of being Sentai-like
Then WHAT THE FUCK were you doing with Zi-O you hack
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>>17698980
The only time I really get mad at team battles in rider is when the final battle is a team battle like the way it was done in Ex-Aid and Drive. It's fucking dumb when the main rider isn't the one having a 1on1 fight for the final
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>>17699008
Depending on the execution, it can help elevate the tension/desperation of the situation though. Mach/Chase and Drive/Heart/Medic was a team up of sheer necessity since nobody was otherwise strong enough to take on Banno and his CGI abomination (which was probably the biggest mistake; CGI final bosses are what's really dumb)
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>>17698869
Sougo doesn't come off as a person who deserved to be worthy of being a king yet and the series is almost up. He only shows the ability to make friends, but he shows none of the wisdom or ability to assert his confidence and authority, or provide a proper beacon of morale by just being there - It just seems like Sougo and his two buddies who live under the same roof.
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Are the original '71 Kamen Rider and V3 the only connected showa series? Currently trying to pick my first showa show to watch, but have no idea how stand alone they are compared to Heisei.
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>>17699026
It would of been better if Drive's final battle was with the actual main villain and not a fucking ball
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>>17699037
I didn't mind. I preferred it this way actually. Banno was still the ultimate villain, the overpowered killer AI with no personality didn't outstay its welcome unlike Ghost's, and was essentially still Banno's creation and plan.

Gou and Chase taking on Banno himself was more suitable than Shinnosuke, and it gave us the ITTE II YO scene. On the flip side, Shinnosuke teaming up with Heart to take out the threat created by Banno was also good.

I honestly don't think it would've been more interesting if Banno just made himself the final boss.
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>>17699032

Depends on what you mean by "connected", I guess.

V3 is the only one that pretty much started as a new episode for the previous series. Starting from X they all have completely standalone origins.

In addition to that though, X and Stronger have past Riders appearing in the final arc (and Stronger's final arc also acts as a true finale for the OG series and V3).

Skyrider begins completely standalone, but starting from episode 20 has many appearances from the previous Riders up to the end of the show.

There's obviously Black/Black RX too - the main plot and even the supporting cast are completely different, but they still reference a few elements from Black in RX and you have all past Riders in the final arc of RX, although there are no references at all to their series.

Amazon, Super-1 and Black have no past Riders in their tv series at all.
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So the gist is it's actually a bad idea if you gave your rider power to sougo?
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>>17699101

The crappy phone quality makes this look like early Heisei.
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>>17699101
Where’s this from?
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>>17699120

Look at the pelvis on OOO's, it's figuarts
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>>17699101
Is this a cosplay?
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Given how old kamen rider is and how many riders there are, one thing I was curious about is who the 100th rider is. Given the sheer amount of them i find it hard to believe there's under 100, but if we are we'd have to be real close to it. So I went back and counted. Notably I'm going by rider and not user, so we're not counting everyone who uses the same suit as different riders. I guess it's more like what's the 100th belt then but whatever.

>showa (15)
since the beginning of Heisei the count for showa riders has been consistently shown as 15. Ichigo, Nigo, V3, RIderman, X, Amazon, Stronger, Skyrider, Super-1, ZX, Black, RX, Shin, ZO, and J. Despite being the same character, Black and Black RX are consistently treated as two seperate riders. Electro Tackle meets all the criteria for being a Rider, but has never officially been described as one. apparently she was suppose to be revived later but Stronger got cancelled before they could.

>Kuuga (1)
just Kuuga. apparently the novel has one as well but it seems to just be an alt-form worn by someone else, ala emperor OOO.

>Agito (3)
Agito, G3, GIlls. There's also Another Agito but he's never referred to as a rider proper and today I think we can definitively classify 'Anothers" as kaijin.

>ryuki (15)
Ryuki features the 13 riders who participate in the TV show (Ryuki, Knight, Scissors, Zolda, Raia, Gai, Ouja, Odin, Tiger and Imperer) the 3 exclusive to the movies (Femme, Verde, Ryuga) and 2 exclusive to a stageshow (Cerberus and Papaillion). Ryuga is just a different version of Ryuki but as he's a different form altogether I think it's fair to count him as a seperate rider.

>Faiz (9)
The four in the show (faiz, Kaixa, Delta, Riotrooper) the two in the movie (psyga, Orga) and 3 exclusive to the stageshow (Alpha, Beta, Gamma). Notably the stage show also features Dark Rider and Dark Slasher who meet the criteria, but aren't actually called Kamen RIders.

have to continue in next post
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is grand zio really an upgrade to trinity? it certainly doesn't feel that way
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>>17699157
It is but they realized it’s suite of powers was too much for the plot so now they’re gonna use trinity as a display of team work and unification against oma, friendship will be stronger etc. then the watches will get fixed and he’ll either get good oma form or grand back
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>>17698980
When have we ever had an edgelord main rider in a main series. I could see an argument for Amazons but pretty much every other main rider preaches hope and justice. Even Decade, who is hailed as the destroyer of worlds, is generally a nice guy who goofs around and helps people out.
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>>17698375
Layered hair is always neat. It's an absolute pain in the ass to achieve and maintain in real life, but it's an interesting look.
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>>17699157

Trinity barely felt like an upgrade to Zi-O II in the first place. Grand Zi-O felt like a big upgrade in his debut, but right afterwards we got the whole "brainwashed base Drive beats him" bit and it has barely used summoning and no time control at all after its debut.

It's kind of bizarre since it seems to be treated like Muteki (often becoming unavailable) but unlike Muteki even when it's recovered it's often nerfed into the ground.
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>>17699154

>Blade (8)
The four of the show (Blade, Garren, Chalice, Leangle) the three from the movie (Glaive, Larc, Lance) and one from the stage show (Kamen RIder Killer). Killer's kind of a cheat since he's identical to Alpha and Dark Rider in appearance but treated as a distinct rider.

>Hibiki (17)
Eight in show (Hibiki, Ibuki, Todoroki, Zanki, Danki, Sabaki, Eiki, Shuki) 5 in movie (Kabuki, Tohki, Kirameki, Nishiki, Habataki) and 4 in stageshow (kagayaki, jaki, mujaki, kyoki). There also appear to be a few that are mentioned without appearing but I don't think those are worth counting. FUll disclosure, haven't seen hibiki so for all I know some of these shouldn't count or the ones I skipped are more important than I assumed.

>Kabuto (13)
Series: 8 (Kabuto, Gatack, TheBee, Drake, Sasword(?), Kickhopper, Punchhopper, Dark Kabuto) Movie: 3 (Hercus, Ketaros, Caucascus) Stageshow: 2 (lady, Chophopper). Dark Kabuto kind of threads the needle here but it does seem to be considered a separate rider from kabuto proper.

>Den-O (4)
2 in show (Den-O, Zeronos) and 2 in movie (Gaoh, Yuuki). Since each of Den-O's forms has a different 'user' and appearence you might consider them seperate, but I think it's save to say they all fall under lt forms and thus, not true alternate riders.

>Kiva (6)
4 in show (Kiva, ixa, Saga, Dark Kiva) 2 in film (Rey, Arc). The wiki lists a 'proto-Ixa' but as it's physically Identical to the original I won't count it.

Decade (4)
surprisingly, Decade only has 4 new riders. I expected more. 2 in show (decade, Diend) 1 in stageshow (Zuccocade) and 1 exclusive to the game CLimax Heroes, (Dark Decade). We've counted Dark RIders before so i think it's only fair to do it here as well.

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>>17699037
Shinnosuke's beef is with Freeze and Nira, his character arc for all intents and purposes was finished by the late 30s. Banno is Gou's personal problem, and Chase by extension as Krim's singular "good" Roidmude that didn't get Banno'ed early in their life
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>>17699232
Shinnosuke's rival is actually MAN
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>>17699194

Stop reuploading dumbass
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>>17699217
Kamen Rider W has 6 riders total. The titular Double, Skull, Accel, Eternal, Joker, and Cyclone. One of these 6 is the 100th rider, the only question is which. I think the only fair way to decide that is by who appears first. All previous riders add up to 95, making Double Kamen Rider 96. He obviously appears in the first episode but he has his cameo in the Dai-Shocker movie as well, he might actually have his first appearence BEFORE Dark Decade but that just changes their order of appearance, not whose #100. Skull appears in the Begins Night movie and ha a cameo around episode 12, making him 97. Accel arrives around episode 25 giving him 98, and at the start of the W movie Kamen Rider Eternal appears, becoming Kamen Rider 99. This makes Kamen Rider Joker Kamen Rider #100.

I think it's extremely appropriate for Joker to be number 100. W was a kind of course correcting for the series, quickening the pace of the series while paying homage to it's early roots. Joker himself is an homage to Kamen Rider Black, Black was the last real showa series and was the first mystic rider. It's still considered a classic and one of the best showa riders, especially in foreign markets.

so there you go. completely useless information.
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>>17699269
V-Cinema special?
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>>17699137
Chaiyo, please no...
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>>17698134
He doesn't look like a main protag I'm going to like.
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>>17698134

Why does his fashion style look pretty cool?
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>>17699265
Unironically really makes you think
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>>17699031
The did this a little in the beginning showing that Sougo has a manipulative streak, but they kind of dropped it and didn't address it as much.
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https://twitter.com/X9FO2w7l3MX0TDL/status/1160848753110081536
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>>17699154
>>17699217
I really don't think you should count stage show Riders. Those aren't recognized by anything.

>>17699154

As far as Showa goes, there's also the 6 Shocker Riders and Shadowmoon. The first six are actually called Riders in the show itself at points, even an episode title about the"eight Riders", but Toei then retroactively classified them just as "monsters". Some more modern material actually classifies them as Kamen Riders again, but it's inconsistent.

There's also Shadowmoon, who wasn't originally considered a Rider, but has been labelled as one at times in modern material. Yet again, it's inconsistent.

>>17699217
>I expected more. 2 in show (decade, Diend)
You forgot Abyss...
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>>17699311

It seemed to be dropped when he met Oma Zi-O since he finally realized he could become an evil overlord and so stopped doing stuff that could lead to that.
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NII CHAN DAIJOUBU
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>>17698902
>Shirakura also complained in a recent pre-Zi-O interview about the cartoonish personalities of recent Rider protagonists, accusing them of being Sentai-like
Shirakura's thing seems to criticizing things about current Rider he ironically did in Zi-O.
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>>17699353
Pure kino
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>>17698769
>The 2nd OP was just a big advertisement of the Agito movie
lol. op2 had nothing to do with g4. how new are you?
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/krg/, Show Me Your Drivin'
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why does everyone hate kabuto
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>>17699308
You've had a year of Sougo
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All of these cutaways suggest the Riders are less "humans with mechanical implants" and more "brain in a robot body."
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well, I guess that's one way to write an actor off a show.
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>>17699402
>Everybody
I'm pretty sure Kabuto was popular for the longest time despite it's flaws. I don't know what the consensus is now.
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>>17698902
>Shirakura also complained in a recent pre-Zi-O interview about the cartoonish personalities of recent Rider protagonists, accusing them of being Sentai-like
>sento
>level headed unless he's completed an invention
>Emu
>uses video games to make doctors less scary to kids
>Shinnosuke
>laid back cop unless he's about to make an arrest
>Gaim
>average joe worried about taking advantage of his siste'rs generosity
>OOO
>Vagabond who tries to help those around him

how far back do you have to go? Maybe Ghost and Wizard are super goofy but from what I see in crossovers they seem pretty level headed. These are just goofy gimmicks, but all of their actual personalities are pretty laid back and distinct. The most 'sentai' riders, personality wise, are dudes like Tendo and Ryoutarou, characters defined almost entirely based on one trait, but even they get more traits just because they're the focal character. Well ryoutarou did. Fourze is the most recent 'sentai' style rider but he had a huge supporting cast to play off of and was aimed a fair bit younger.
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Any recommendation for a guy that never watch Kamen Rider? Preferably something new
Gaorangers was my childhood and looking at kamenfags having fun make me wanna join in.
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>>17699431
Production order.
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>>17699431
the ZO movie is a pretty quick standalone thing of "guy become bug-guy and beats up monsters"
not a bad place to see if you like the core concept
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>>17699431
wait a few weeks and start Zero-One with everyone else
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>>17699402
Are you from Bizarro world?
Or when you say "everyone" do you mean the 3 people you asked who don't like it?
Either way, WRONG.
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The real contrarian hottake is that I like Tendou better than Kagami
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>>17698902
Shirakura strikes me as this person who doesn't want to work on a franchise that's aimed at kids. But also he tries to make it super serious in artificial ways. He likes rider infighting for petty reasons, as you can see from a lot of the Rider movies he worked on. He doesn't want to come off as childish, but he makes stuff that's actually more immature.

I mean that's shallow speculation from me. I don't know the guy outside the occasional thing he says like "Kamen Rider has lost it's fangs".
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>>17699069
Amazon does have Tachibana, though
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Look out motherfuckers Peter Pan is comin for ya
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>>17699431
Build. W. OOO. Gaim, Ex-Aid, and Drive are all fantastic and you can more or less start with any. OOO is the best introduction I feel, and Build is a personal favorite. honestly the only ones you should generally avoid are ghost and wizard as general opinion is they're not up to snuff, but you may want to check em out anyway if the designs really speak to you.
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>>17699484
He was in X too, he went all the way up to Stronger, so I don't know what that anon is thinking.
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Did the OST for the Amazons movie get posted here, and if yes, can someone point me in the direction of it? Thanks
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>>17699427
I mean I doubt he watches other people's shows beyond the pilots and maybe movies and some promo material. He is likely referencing Emu, a gamer Rider, going I will clear this with no continues, or Drive, the car Rider, talking about going in full throttle. Compare with Zi-O's understated "I feel like I can do this".


In this interview for Heisei Gen Forever for example, he specifically says that Rider became closer to Sentai in storytelling starting from W - so from the point where he stopped working on the tv shows. It's clear to me that most of his comments about later stuff are said without watching the series, going modtly by marketing.
http://tokusatsunetwork.com/2018/12/back-to-the-beginning-an-interview-with-shinichiro-shirakura/
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>>17699431
If you are a boomer and want something a bit less overtly toy focused, Kuuga or Agito. Otherwise W, OOO or Build are good starting points.

For the most part just choose a suit or theme that you like, the majority of KR is good. Kiva, Wizard, Hibiki and Ghost are the only ones I'd say to avoid for being lower quality. Along with Decade and Zi-O being anniversary series of mixed qualities. These shows have their fans and defenders but there is a much lower chance that they will get you into the franchise.
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>>17698722
If I'm honest, I found that Yoshihiko only really made me laugh because of the Dragon Quest stuff. The rest was just mean-spirited, slapstick or generally unfunny - as I quickly found out when I tried to watch Space Jobs. I mean, that does apply to a lot of JP comedy, but I love the humour in stuff like The Japanese Tradition, Aoi Honoo or even something like Gintama.
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>>17699515
>Shirakura was asked about the plot of Kamen Rider Zi-O being a bit confusing to kids, as the main character travels through time, meets, and befriends past Heisei Riders while trying to protect the past, present, and future. Shirakura admits that it is difficult, but if kids can ignore reason, they created the story in a way for even kids to enjoy. But there are things that even adults wouldn’t understand.
This reads like the people who worked on Gundam AGE

>We borrowed the idea of giving our characters jobs as well as motifs.
Is he talking about roles as in a character's role? Because a literal working job wouldn't make sense here considering we have Ryuki, Faiz, Blade and some others.
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I don't watch Zi-O what does "IWAE" mean
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>>17699571
Behold.
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>>17699581
Thanks
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>Shirakura spasms over himself during the press shit for Over Quartzer that it's a film that doesn't fall into the normal Rider norms of taking place between two episodes of a series
>Geiz asks Chase about Gou Shijima, a character he doesn't learn about until Over Quartzer
WHICH IS IT YOU HACK?
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>>17699457
If you include the movie then I can see that as a valid opinion
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>>17699571
>>17699581
It's more like Rejoice.
祝え
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>>17699585
I mean I wouldnt be surprised if Geiz already knows of Gou via Futurepedia since thats how Tsukyuyomi knows of Dan
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>>17699588
more commonly as "celebrate"
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>>17699597
Formerly P.A.R.T.Y.
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How would a gravity-powered Rider work? Been thinking of it a lot.
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>>17699421
I'll always miss original Hana
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*Kuuga Rising Ultimate transformation sound
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>>17699653
*Agito Shining transformation sound
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>>17699662
Advent
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>>17699674
Complete
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>>17699675
Absorb Queen
Evolution King
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>>17699618
Newton Soul
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>>17699618
pretty sure skyrider and Super-1 both control gravity
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>>17699618
Woz Ginga have gravity form
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>>17699678
HYPER CAST OFF
CHANGE HYPER BEETLE
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>>17699618
The Roidmudes, and by extension Drive, sorta-kinda-almost have gravity powers.
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>>17699618
Evolt Black Hole had gravity powers
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>>17699769
based banana man
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>>17699256
I noticed the second one is shopped to remove toy lines
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>>17699311
He demonstrated it a good few times afterward, notably in the Kabuto arc. Sougo's character growth has gone through a few stages: at first he seemed like a lazy dope, then we discovered he was actually a pretty manipulative guy, then he met Oma Zi-O and was traumatized enough by the experience that he started actually showing fear. Then from the Zi-O II arc onward he started being more honest about his feelings and stopped being all smiles all the time.
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>>17699924
He's still a Wizard tier character
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>>17699938
You have to actually watch the show first before you hop on the /krg/ bandwagon
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>>17699924
It's definitely a very sparse trait. I think if it were more consistent it would be a nice sense of tension as to whether or not he could be this dictator. But he's mostly kept very static and passive.
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>>17699945
Zi-O whole cast is Wizard tier stay mad
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>>17699945
People have and Zi-O is low tier when it comes to it's original characters. Hell they even manage to fuck up the returning characters most of the time.
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>>17699966
I’m not talking about people, i’m talking about you.
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For a series with so much suffering, the cast is super comfy
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>>17699966
>People have
No they haven’t. Secondaries like you don’t count as people.
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>>17699971
Sougo has barely changed from his first quarter version. The only times he's ever actually showed any form of development were during moments like the Ryuga arc that got dropped and went nowhere, the reveal that Sougo is "totally loney guys look he's sad he has no friends" that also got throw away to the wayside and more recently with showing him being angry towards Swartz killing some literal fucking whos that nobody cared about and deserved to bite it. Also the moment where he had to come to terms with the fact that he's 100% Oma Zi-O but again that barely affected how he behaved or the plot structure of the show since right after that the show had to shill Rider Woz and push the Geiz Revive future that was dropped hard.

When you combine these with the fact that characters like Woz, Geiz, Tsukyomi and the Time Jackers are hilariously underdeveloped or barely even have a character like Geiz you have one of the worst original casts in the post-Decade seasons.
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>>17699997
>"you didn't watch the show"
>prove that anon has watched the show
>"lol I don't give a shit I was just pretending to be a faggot"
Zi-Ofags are fucking infantile I swear.
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>>17699994
I’m sorry anon but i do not give two flying fucks about Zi-O.
I was talking about how he called Sougo a “Wizard tier” character when that anon has probably never seen it before.
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>>17699984
You gotta balance the sad moments out with happy ones.
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>>17699984
How can you truly suffer if you've never known joy? Can you feel cold if you've never felt heat?

Gotta have contrast, my nigga.
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>>17700002
Yeah, Wizard was absolute shit and nobody apart from Nitou was likable. The cast of Zi-O minus Woz is a little bland but at least I don't hate the shit out of them.
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>>17700002
You're right anon, Sougo isn't a Wizard tier character because at least in Wizard you had moments where Haruto where he wasn't a cardboard piece of shit.
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Do they eventually explain how Tendou can "infiltrate" different organizations (Zect, hospital, police, etc) without anybody ever questioning it? It always feels random.
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>>17700012
Tendou maxed his charisma stat.
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>>17700012
It also bothers me that he seems to be an omnipresent being who knows the exact location of all the characters at all times.
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>>17700014
Then he turns into a whiny hypocritical yet overpowered fuck near the end of the series.
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>>17700003
>>17700005
True. Believe me I ain't complaining, these guys are great.
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>>17700030
The Build crew had some great chemistry. Hopefully the Grease movie has more of it.
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>>17699994
>Also the moment where he had to come to terms with the fact that he's 100% Oma Zi-O but again that barely affected how he behaved

He had been manipulating Geiz at times from the Wizard arc up to his meeting with Oma when he dropped that kind of stuff since he actually started taking the dark future seriously. It was also from there that he constantly tried to return the Watches or only make Watches when it's clear the Riders consent rather than just going along with it with no resistance.

>the reveal that Sougo is "totally loney guys look he's sad he has no friends" that also got throw away to the wayside

It didn't "get thrown away". It came to the forefront because his new friends had mostly abandoned him, but eventually they were all together so he obviously wasn't lonely anymore.
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>>17700021
Damn, really? Does he at least stop being so arrogant?
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>>17700035
>only make Watches when it's clear the Riders consent rather than just going along with it with no resistance.
Oh great now instead of just outright stealing their powers he gives a half-assed attempt to give them back while the Legend Riders refuse because Zi-O is all about Sougo being infinitely more better than everyone who came before him very nice
>but eventually they were all together so he obviously wasn't lonely anymore.
So it got thrown away. This character trait has never appeared after that moment and only happened in the first place to force a "sad" moment to make the viewer feel bad for him.
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>>17700002
Yes I have seen Wizard and Zi-O is at that level. I give Wizard a slight edge only because the Phantoms are some how better developed then the Time Jackers
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>>17700051
>I give Wizard a slight edge only because the Phantoms are some how better developed then the Time Jackers
Oh I fucking despise the Time Jackers anon but even I don't know about this one.
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>>17700046
>because Zi-O is all about Sougo being infinitely more better than everyone who came before him very nice
It'd be nice if that were the case, then Zi-O's upgrades wouldn't job so much in these arcs.

>So it got thrown away.
An arc getting resolved is it getting "thrown away"? That sounds oddly negative for a natural part of a story, but okay, I thought you were complaining about it rather than just stating a fact.
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Does anybody know what's going on with the kuuga manga recently ?
I have not seen any full scan for months
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>>17697394
He seems like a rejected movie villain.
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>>17700061
>giving a shit about the terrible Kuuga manga
The only good part about it was when that dumb waifu pandering cunt got her head lopped off.
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>>17696992
>>17697005
What's this from?
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>>17700057
>arc
It's a glorified character trait at best and was poorly resolved.
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>>17700056
You can't tell me that Phoenix isn't a better developed character compared to everyone of the Time Jackers

>>17700070
I wonder if Ginga was a rejected concept for a Fourze movie Rider that they decided to put in Zi-O
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>>17700078
A mobile game called Kamern Rider Battle City
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>>17700046
>So it got thrown away.
The dilemma at the end is literally built around this trait. Swartz has arranged things so that any option Sougo takes other than becoming Oma Zi-O means he loses the only friends he's ever had. This is why he can't just Rider Kick Swartz in the face.
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>>17700082
He's a joke about the Neo Fangires coming out of nowhere at the end of Kiva. He's a recycled Fourze costume because all of the future Riders are recycled costumes.
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>>17700092
I was asking if the came up with the idea of Ginga during Fourze but never used him until they randomly added him in Zi-O to job
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>>17700082
Is the word you're actually thinking of better "characterized?"
Phoenix didn't, nor any other Phantom for that matter, develop in the slightest because they all either fell into the category of being completely self-serving or completely subservient to Medusa/Wiseman. They lacked any sort of substance to even develop from and were all introduced/died as the disposable caricatures they were, even if some ended up being pretty appealing caricatures due to how they were characterized.
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>>17699290

I didn't notice it before, but unlike Hongo, V3 is actually a beetle monster under the helmet once transformed.
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I think a lot of the negativity that is said about Zi-O comes from people being unsatisfied with how the writers handled the arcs of their favorite characters. Which if you're favorite one was in the first 15 episodes I could see why someone would be pissed off.
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>>17700126
Or maybe people don't like Zi-O becuse of it's shtty storytelling and shitty characters
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>>17700126
I'd say it's only gotten worse since then, and I know I'm not alone...
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All this comparing Wizard and Zi-O made we realize how similar Wiseman and Swartz are
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>>17700057
I remember Gremlin getting small moments of character development along the way. Really helped define him as the main villain for Haruto.
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So basically Schwartz is just a discount tsukasa?
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>>17700178

Gremlin's character was kind of odd. They hinted that he was different form the other phantom and eventually revealed that he kept his human mind, but was a serial killer from the start. However, then they pushed the idea that he wanted to become human again, without ever elaborating on what that was the case.

There was no incomplete senses stuff like the Greeed, or even an emphasis on losing the thrill of the hunt due to super powers or anything like that. He just wanted to become a human and his character oddly stopped there.
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>>17700096
They just recycled suits, for Ginga, that they are never going to use again, like the Future Riders.

Same reason Zi-O Decade used RabbitTank Sparkling, Mighty Bros XX, and Grateful. There are no stories left to tell with those suits, and that's exactly why Build's default Hazard form is being used for the Grease V-Cinema.
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>>17700030
What is it about Kouhei Takeda that's so appealing? The guy has some amazing charisma around him or is just really lucky to have interesting parts.
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>>17700196
>Same reason Zi-O Decade used RabbitTank Sparkling, Mighty Bros XX, and Grateful. There are no stories left to tell with those suits
I don't think the Decade Armor actually modified any parts of those old suits. It's just a few new parts added to the old ones, without any old part modified. We got Decade Ryuki Armor but also still got Ryuki Survive in Over Quartzer.
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>>17700186
I can't remember exactly, but there was something that happened during the episode he released that one other super crazy murdering Phantom, that made me realize that they were developing him, through the contrast against Haruto.

Nothing super complex or anything, but far more than the Time Jackers. Also I am the anon you replied to, but not the original anon you were talking to.
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>>17698143
so it's James (US), huh? pretty funny
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>>17700201
I wasn't trying to suggest that they modified the suits. Because they didn't really modify any of the suits for Ginga either.

Just getting a few more uses out of the suits, since future appearances of those Riders aren't going to use them. It's not likely that Sento is going to use Sparkling or default Hazard ever again. Just skip from base to RR/TT or Genius.

Emu *might* use MBXX again, but only if they get Parad back also. Otherwise they are going to go from Level 2 to Level 99/Muteki.

The only Decade Armor that even stands a chance of being used again is Tajadol, and that's only because there can be story reasons for Eiji to use that suit.
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>>17700204
It's kind of hard to contrast when Haruto didn't have a lot going for him. Was it the 'using others as a means to an end' sort of thing?
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>>17700213
It could be the means to an end thing. I just meant that Haruto was always being the last hope for the people, saving them in their different moments of despair, and Gremlin was the cause of some of them falling into despair. So if Gremlin was causing the despair, it shows him not caring about people for that reason, and shows Haruto does care about people for that reason.

Not trying to suggest a great depth or anything. Just a bit more than the nothing that the original anon was trying to suggest. Just trying to defend Wizard from being grouped into the bottom of the barrel rank, when it's supposed to be ranked average.
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>>17700209
He's saying that none of the suits used for Decade armor had anything done to them so it didn't matter whether they had a use or not. They just used the suit and slapped on the chest piece on top of them.
That's why he mentioned Ryuki Survive, because the Decade Armor version, like all of the Decade Armors, didn't do anything to it that would cause the suit to be unusable like you're suggesting by saying things like
>There are no stories left to tell with those suits, and that's exactly why Build's default Hazard form is being used for the Grease V-Cinema.
>Just getting a few more uses out of the suits, since future appearances of those Riders aren't going to use them.
You're spouting baseless speculation off as if it's fact.
They didn't choose the forms off of some idea that they'll never need the suits for those forms again.
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>>17700126
They keep pussy footing around Drive and it hurts a bit but everything else is in a good light for me. Hell even the ones i havent watched or like that much get an ok rep.
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>>17700196
>Same reason Zi-O Decade used RabbitTank Sparkling, Mighty Bros XX, and Grateful. There are no stories left to tell with those suits
That's not why they used them
The Decade Armor forms are just forms from seasons that are marketable in the eyes of Bandai, specifically recent seasons (Build, Ghost, Ex-Aid) and fan favorites (OOO)

Ryuki Survive was just a way to add a new Zi-O form into RT: Ryuki without breaking the bank, in order to drum up interest in Zi-O fans who aren't too familiar with Ryuki
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>>17700232
You are right, they might use those suits again. But I would bet a lot of money on them not using them again. Movies don't spend a lot of time with the Legend Riders already, and it's usually just Base Form to Final Form(and maybe 1 other form if there is a gimmick, like Gatakiriba or a story reason, like Tajadol).

It's not really baseless speculation though, it's following the trend that they have been doing with the movies for years now. I would be shocked if Build ever goes from Base to anything but RR/TT or Genius at this point. It's even less likely for even older Legend Riders to use any of their middle of their show forms, outside of W/OOO's gimmick being core to them being Riders. Build has the gimmick, but they narratively removed the need to use all those middle of the show forms, about 1k forms and we won't see more than the 4, that I already listed.

>>17700266
Now this is also fair speculation for why the suits got used. I would agree that it's partially correct also.

But they are also just using suits that will otherwise be collecting dust, getting a little more value out of the material. It's why the Drive suit got used in Shinobi, and why Fourze suits got used for Ginga. I am sure the people at Bandai were talking to the suit makers and talking to the producers of the episodes, about what makes the most sense. Recent Riders' and popular Riders' old suits that aren't getting use is the obvious direction they went.
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>>17700040
Tendou has to cope with some fucked up shit and has a sort of crisis, it definitely doesn't last until the end.
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>>17700300
>You are right, they might use those suits again.
That's not the point.
I'm saying that it doesn't matter if they were going to or not. They chose those suits because of arbitrary decisions for which power up the Decade Armor would use for each rider that they made, not a way to recycle old unused suits.
Your theory is so vague that it would work for literally any suit that isn't a base or final form, not just specifically the forms chosen, and even then, the fact that they did have plans to use Ryuki Survive and the fact that Tajador is there at all disproves it in this situation.
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>>17700074
>Incredibly out of character yandere Shouichi was the best part
You can’t be serious.
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>>17700300
>But they are also just using suits that will otherwise be collecting dust

Ryuki Survive got used as the Decade Armor Ryuki in Rider Time Ryuki but Ryuki Survive itself was in Over Quartzer. I'm not sure if you've misunderstood this somehow, but people are pointing it out and you're just ignoring it.
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>>17700333
Nah that was trash too. But him killing the waifu grongi was good
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Deneb is too precious for this world.
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>>17700088
>Kamen Rider Battle City
Actually it's Kamen Rider City Wars, I've tried to get into it before but I always find myself deleting it because it feels really inaccessible gacha-wise.
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;_;
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>>17700369
W
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>>17700369
A sequel to the series, now with titties and gore
Also fuck Genmcorp
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>>17700397
N O
S H I I T A K E
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>>17699335
>My running theory that Faiz belt turned you into a construct of energy is proven right

Neat.

Are there other Heisei cross-sections around?
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Please don't be shit please don't be shit please don't be shit
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>>17700455
It'll be good
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>>17700455
I'm not holding my breath. Kamen Super Sentai Rider will be exactly or below average.
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>>17700455
The only thing I'm worried about for the show is if the characters are gonna follow the molds that Ex-Aid's characters also had. It was fun in Ex-aid, but Build made me realize that I really enjoy it when the main group are all friends that can joke around together. So I hope that Vulcan and Valkyrie don't just stay grouped off together separate from Zero-One.
Even if they're at odds, it'd be more fun to see them interacting more than Emu and Taiga or someone did by the end of the series.
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>>17700455
>Takahashi
We're fucked
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>>17700485
A factor that may genuinely affect Zero-One's characters is the fact they're based on animals, and past shows have shown that animal-trait stereotypes stick. Aruto is likely gonna be the "jumpy" happy-go-lucky kind, Isamu will be another fucking lone-wolf cold rival, Yua the cat (potential double-crossing), and the edgelord evil dudes who sting and shit. Build pretty much had most characters' personalities carried by their animal theme, especially LUV ANDO PISU Sento, so I think Zero-One will have that same meddling in writing the personalities as young viewers would see them.
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>>17700455
It's pretty much Takahashi's chance at showing us whether he's one-note or not. I'm personally optimistic.
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>>17700074
isn't that the same person surrounding Kuuga though, is it related for him to gaining the golden power of his 'Rising forms'?
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>>17700660
does anyone have the raws up to Volume 12?
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>>17700455
It's Ex-Aid's writer and producer. It's going to be great.
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S.I.C. Great Leader of Delza
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>>17700675
and the others
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>>17700680
and ouch
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How does it feel knowing you're not the worst general on /m/ anymore?
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>>17700687
/prg/'s been around for too long for us to have been the worst for a while.
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>>17700683
Isn’t that Blade King Form?
Why’s he fighting Showa kaijins?
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>>17700687
We're not?
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>>17700698
>322 posts
>25 posters
>Thread reached its limit in less than half a day
>90 percent of it is just celebrity drama
>>17696893
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>>17700455
4chan is shit
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>>17700701
*4channel
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I don't get what is going on, at this point I just switched off my brain with this subplot. One thing for sure, the music is so good
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>>17700713
the more clones he beat the more his lifeforce went into them until the last clone had more of it than he did but it also got his personality so it gave it back to the real specter then died or something
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>>17700200
He is just lucky to be like by KR producers and staff. Outside of KR, he barely acted in anything worthwhile and just do modeling for magazines.
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>>17700713
Wait wat, where did you get spanish subs?
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>>17700333
thank you for reminding me how they did my favorite Rider dirty like that
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>>17700785
NekoRider fansub, there are more south american groups that sub newer and older series but most of them take their time or leave projects unfinished
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>>17700837
Is that even America?
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>>17700837
*ahem*
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>>17700713
Deep Specter was made to draw power from the Ganmeizers, so they took advantage of that by making the Makoto clones to turn the relationship around on him. The more he killed, the more of him the next clone copied until the last one was a perfect copy of him. Except being a perfect copy meant it thought and acted exactly like him, so they didn't think this through all that well. The real point was to make a second Deep Specter Eyecon that they could back themselves up on, that way not even Mugen could kill them anymore unless they did something really stupid like form their own Grateful despite having plenty of experience with how Grateful is so vulnerable that it's not worth the extra power.
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>>17700735
>>17700913
Ok, now I get it, thanks both of you. Just two episodes left
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>>17700713
That's the only thing that Ghost really gave me. The soundtrack was a kindof cheesy I enjoyed. But it aired at the same time as dragonball super, which was arguably worse than kamen rider ghost, and being assaulted by two bad shows every week on the same day and having nothing to watch made me sad. I had little to no interest in zyuohger and nininger was a massive disappointment too. Goddamn 2015 to 2017 was an absolute piss and shit fest for Sunday mornings. I think on the level of I hate it because it's shit dragonball super still ranks at the bottom by far, nininger slightly above that, and ghost above that but that's like comparing sloppy shit to dry shit to wet shit fuck I hated that year so badly.
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Why does everyone like Kabuto?
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>>17701096
Because the first half was good, and has a western aesthetic to it.
The second half has its moments but most of it goes downhill. Listing stuff that was good off the top of my head is probably anything involving the Hell Brothers, Tsurugi, and the Iron Chef Worm episodes. Anything apart from fight scenes involving Dark Kabuto was usually a snore.
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>>17700913
>>17700735
>spoonfeeding the dumbass secondary.
The absolute state of /krg/
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>>17701036
Nobody cares anon. This isn’t your blog.
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>>17701118
Im sorry maybe I should say it louder. KAMEN RIDER GHOST WAS SHIT.
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>>17701131
Yikes
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>>17701115
its fuckin ghost m8
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https://youtu.be/gC2YfxO8sLQ?t=99
Not sure why this showed up for me, but it was pretty fun seeing him act out all the Den-O forms' walks.
Takaiwa really was pretty great at body mannerisms and miming.
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>>17701096
the main rider is excellent
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>>17701146
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https://twitter.com/matutoya/status/1161546985318621184
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>>17700713
https://youtu.be/HHVFQY-wmXk
https://youtu.be/8F78jyBTa9M
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>>17701209
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RiPlao0Tnc
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They can't let Build's v-cinemas end on Grease can they? Evolt's still out there
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>>17701147
He is one of the best in the biz and frankly /krg/ needs to put more respect in his name. Even as he's gotten more injured and out-of-shape, he still does his best to give these last couple of riders unique mannerisms. Just compare him to most of the other veteran suit actors playing secondaries these past few years and it's night-and-day.

That being said I'm glad the new main rider suit actor was the one that played Genm in the first half of Ex-Aid. He has lots of promise and I hope Toei lets him indulge in the wackiness of a character like that in the future main rider.
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>>17701147
Smile on my face the whole time watching this. Takaiwa will always be a legend.
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>>17701233
I just ignore people who talk shit because frankly it isn't worth dignifying with a response, the man is Kamen Rider. If you're capable of appreciating suit acting at all, his expertise is eminently clear.
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>>17701219
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2HAvCaijGc
I still hate Ghost btw
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>>17699436
Just finished ZO, kinda meh tbqh, everything happened too quick and rush.
The effect and fight scene is cool though, a fresh air watching special effects movie again instead of block buster CGI, speaking of which the CGI in ZO was so shit lmao.
Gonna watch Ryuki now since i love the design back when i was a kid, maybe watching Build after that
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>>17701233
He's a fantastic suit actor, but he's getting old. This general makes fun of his belt bulges for a reason. I still hope they keep him around in other roles.
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You look better on social media
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bullshit artist
womanizer
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>>17701311
I wish I bought that shirt when Build was airing.
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why has nothing even comes close to OOOs in term of insert songs
https://youtu.be/qIdW6ixN2CI
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Oma GrandZi-O Trinity Ginga Revive Form when?
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>>17701231
Evolt is a suit-only VA character at this point, they can easily just throw him in some future crossover like the Imagins.

>>17701233
I actually think even in that sense he has deteriorated a lot. The last main Rider that actually felt they had an unique personality and fighting style in-suit was Wizard. Afterwards the fighting styles and character movements (aside from specific "signature poses") have just been kind of generic.

>>17701282
>speaking of which the CGI in ZO was so shit lmao.
ZO used stop motion if you're talking about the spider monster and such. But, yeah, the framerate for them is so low it's kind of distracting.
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>>17701507
>Evolt is a suit-only VA character at this point
Poor Soichi. He's part of the character too, but they slowly pushed him out.
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>>17701507
When Build was first shown off during Ex-Aid, I really liked how the suit actor played him. He seemed so genuinely curious and playful towards Genm and it got me excited for Build's debut.

Thinking back now I was a little disappointed those mannerisms never really popped back up outside of episode one with Build's signature pose.
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>>17701513
goddam hes hot for a guy in his 40s
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>>17701376
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cs3EyWKnm84
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>>17701520
Mars magic, my friend
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>>17700519
>another fucking cold lone wolf rival
I'm so tired of jackass rival secondaries. I realized recently that all of my favorite secondaries were bros with the lead or ended up that way eventually. Riders like Birth or Cross-Z are far more likeable and memorable than, say, Brave.
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>>17701555
Might be just an age thing, but I really can’t remember anything about Birth besides the bullet in his skull.
I love Beast though.
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>>17701555
I hope we get more rival secondaries just to piss you off
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>>17701555
>555 get
>hates rival secondaries
Calm down Takumi.
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>>17701577
What's it like being so bitter?
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>>17701376
Ryuki's two inserts are better.
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Any link for this http://www.jefusion.com/2019/08/kamen-rider-zero-one-1st-tv-promo-video.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Jefusion-TokusatsuAnimeJdramaAndHenshinHottiesUnites+%28JEFusion+%7C+Japanese+Entertainment+Blog%29 ?
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>>17701600
What's it like being a faggot?
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is Shu Watanabe let out by yakuza yet?
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I know I'm late but jeez why did sougo got his ass whooped in the very next episode after he got grand zio?

Pathetic
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>>17701519
they at least explain why his style changed, unlike ghost.



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