>Macross will never be this good againIt's all lolis and moe moe kawaii shit now.
>>17602190Macross plus is not even so good.. Izamu is so fucking boring.
>>17602190Macross as a franchise is terrible, the Idolshit factor has grown within it like a cancer.
>>17602190Macross Plus looks and sounds great but it has a fucking awful plot and characters.
>>17602190And Delta is better than Plus>>17602193Also this
>>17602219>>17602212>>17602193spotted the zoomers
>>17602190>It's all lolis and moe moe kawaii shit now.I wish.>>17602212To be honest it's over so quickly that it doesn't really need those and can afford to go 100% aesthetics.
>>17602219Delta was trash. Its only saving grace is Reina.
>>17602256I've been waiting star fox!
>>17602190I just watched plus yesterday and it was gorgeous but the characters were pretty dry, what is it with these mecha franchise top gun rip offs that have such mediocre love triangles (stardust memory)
>>17602190Macross was great when it was a sci-fi epic survival story of humanity, and the relationships/idols were only in the background.
Macross Plus has some pretty great atmosphere, but the Isamu/Guld plot got really retarded and there's none of the social perspective that made Macross unique. You think it's gonna be there, but it's a generic throwaway line about muh treating me like a Token.
>>17602975Blame 7 for being way too much about music. It may have been good but it retroactive redefined what Macross's core values would be about from then on out. The only real problem is delta going to far with "muh music"
>>17602219...Someone actually likes Delta? I think it's the worst Macross we've had, it's the bottom of the barrel for this franchise.
>>17604502He's been going around saying Delta is the best of the franchise, and Plus is the worst. I.E. he's a troll.
>>17602239LAUGH NOW BITCHES>>17602190>Stuck in a cliche loophole since certain groups prevented Kawamori from making cliche-breaking ideas
>>17604502I like Delta, but it's definitely the worst Macross series to date.
Episode 27 of Macross 7 was the best episode in all of Macross anyways.
>>17604502>I think it's the worst Macross we've had, it's the bottom of the barrel for this franchise.I feel like the next Macross will be even worse with the idol stuff.
>>17602190>It's all lolis and moe moe kawaii shit now.the first one was better than the rest.
>>17604894Minmay was the literal definition of THOT tho.She just used Ichijo to feel good with herself and then just ditched him.
>>17602190>give women rights and freedoms>they grow up to be toxic thots>hurr durr why is everyone a pedo nowBecause the ideal age of a woman is before she's grown old and bitter. Letting women mainline life experience straight into their vaginas makes them age quicker than a meth addict, which some of them might also be.Cue the lolipocalypse, an age in which the sell by date for girls is in their mid teens. Regardless of law, this comes to be expressed In the mainstream art of modern westernized cultures where the notion of a "good woman" has been buried in the earth right next to chivalry, patriarchy, and that pet your parents claimed was on an extended vacation.Asking the incel uprising to accept a desirable adult woman as a normal thing in anime is like asking someone to believe that magic Russian techno wizards masterminded the election of a meme for shits and giggles. That's why the medium's become flooded with schoolgirls doing everything from piloting robots to battling the hordes of hell. It's all still more realistic than an adult female sidekick or love interest who responsibly supports the male protagonist without turning it into a bitter chauvinistic power struggle.
>>17606700Fuck, and to say this as a straight male, you fucking incels need to stop or seriously consider a hooker.
>>17602234What's so good about her? All she did were hacking, committing jellyfish genocide, making Bogue feel rage but also horny, and groping Makina.
>>17604900like a real woman
>>17607048>seriously consider a hooker.using a woman for sex you fucking incels.
>>17607465sex workers need all the support they can get, anon
>>17607506I'm actually sweaty all sex workers are victims of trafficking regardless of whether or not the answer to a pimp. All prostitution is degenerate and sinful and exploitative. By "supporting" whores you're literally a human trafficker
>>17607932yeah I know if only sex work were decriminalized then the much of the incentive for such exploitation wouldn't exist
>>17608009Actually, decriminalization leads to sex workers getting evicted with no support network, so legalization is the only way the sex industry could ever be properly regulated.
>>17608046But legalization merely creates a precedent for lawmakers to redefine sex work however they see fit, which would functionally cripple any publicly funded support networks that currently exist (see: the countless hurdles abortion clinics need to go through in certain states just to stay operational). By decriminalizing sex work, it would be seen as just that: work, and would allow for the same rights and protections workers have in any other industry.
>>17608139But every European country that's decriminalized sex work has made material conditions significantly worse for sex workers, leading directly to a rise of human trafficking within those countries. If the problem is our representatives being bribed by pornhub and human traffickers, then the dictatorship of capital needs to go first.
>>17608175I agree, but revolution requires a foundation that strengthens organically over time; not one that quite literally writes lip service into law.
>>17604508Or just enjoys it the most, /m/ isn't a place where people usually separate best and favorites.
>>17604502It's simple: Other Macross entries have music I don't like, Delta lacked that, and I enjoyed it the most.
even in the first macross you already have the concept of idol, but it didn't have the "moe" element like modern day moe anime. That being said, my biggest criticism is the melodrama between Hikaru-Minmay-Kaifun , when I rewatched it again, macross definitely felt like soap opera drama disguised as a space opera. Macross as a franchise would be infinitely better if it had the similar direction like 0079 did
>>17610145>but it didn't have the "moe" element like modern day moe anime>Implying Mikimoto doesn’t draw naked minmay in his free time
delta was so embarrassingly bad I took the MACROSS number plate off my car and boxed up my valkyrie collection
>>17610202You can gift them to me instead
>>17610212I'm not that generous and there's a chance macross might be awesome again one day.
>>17610239Last time on /toy/ you posted this pic and said something like>I don't know if I can even be bothered setting up my collection.Now it becomes>Delta so bad i boxed up my Valkyrie collectionWhich one is it faggot.
>>17602190>>Macross will never be this good againDude, did you get stuck in the 90s ?
>>17610321>implying it can't be both
>>17602212>it has a fucking awful plot and characters.You're on the wrong board. >>>/a/
>>17610202>having a vanity plate to begin withYikes. Delta was bad, but you come off as the type of person that makes lots of terrible decisions.
>>17608263I hate how this non-/m/ subject, has one of the most /m/ morals
non-canon Macross II was the only worthy sequel even though they ripped off a subplot of Southern Cross.
Idols kill macross, also 35 more years.
>>17610239Not as long as manchild Kawamori is alive.
>>17610372>Macross II was the only worthy sequel >ripped off a subplot of Southern Cross.Proof that Robotech is the superior timeline.
>>17602199I really don't like Macross from a mech design perspective. They all just feel rather samey.
>>17602190As long as HG own macross would prefer to stay that way
>>17610399idols have done more for macross than its mecha ever did; and yeah 35 more years of not being able legally share in that fandom
>>17610439Kawamori is awesome though.