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>>17532653KAMEN LAIDAAAAAAAA GURAUNDO JIOOOOOOOOOO
IWAE!THE KING OF TOKU DISCUSSION GENERALS, SURPASSING ALL OTHER TOKU DISCUSSION WEBSITES.ITS NAME IS KAMEN RIDER GENERAL #2098 - NEW NIP MEME EDITION.YOU HAVE BORN WITNESS TO A NEW DEVELOPMENT IN ITS HISTORY.
If you think about it, Grand Zi-O is still much, much weaker than Oma Zi-O who has both telekinesis and actual time-manipulation powers like the Time Jackers that still affect anyone.
>>17532705Grand Zi-O is supposed to have all abilities of all Heisei Riders. We'll see if that gets shown off next week or if it will end up lore-only like Decade Complete's power.
>>17532705Even if they have an equal footing power set, Oma has had years to refine and learn his skills while Sougo is just out of the gate. He's definitely rushing because he's afraid of Oma.
If tsuku is related to swartchz, who is the other two related to then?
>>17532718No one. It has already been said that they got their powers from Swartz.
>>17532705I mean a guy with like 50 years of experience would totally destroy a guy with a year's worth of experience.
>>17532705Well Grand Zi-O is a fusion of 20 ridewatches while Oma Zi-O is an evolution of Zi-O's own powers. It's why Trinity feels weaker than Zi-O II despite technically being physically stronger and faster, the future sight and limited time powers far outweight anything Trinity can do.
I just finished decade and the movie and I still don't get it.
Are Q4 Rider catalogs totally dead?
>>17532787There's nothing to undetstand, Decade is a mess.
>>17532789Pretty much. Last minute P-Bandai shilling looks to be the future now.
>>17532789>>17532801Also after Trinity they are keeping a tighter hold on them to prevent leaks.
The fuck? All Emu did was shoot a gun at her. I'm loving this show so far but this was whack.
>>17532705Oma Zi-O is stronger because he uses the riders power himself, he doesn't need Ryuki to invoque Dragreder. Grand Zi-O needs to summon Ryuki to have that power.
>>17532820No, Oma Zi-O needs watches to do that, he just doesn't put them in the Driver. Grand Zi-O is supposed to be able to use abilities and weapons of the Heisei Riders by itself.
I know this is /krg/ but But I want to ask, I really like Kamen Rider, I've already seen 6 series of the Heisei era, but when I try to see a super-sentai series I get super-bored, I literally fell asleep with 3 different shows of the franchise, why does this happen? What makes it so different? and what other tokusatsu franchise do you recommend?
>>17532850Oma needs watches the same as Grand needs to touch the rider in his suit
>>17532851Sentai is for a slightly younger demographic and has been on the sharp decline for years. Kamen Rider has only been bad the 5 seasons.
>>17532817So did you skip every episode after 22? How do you not know what reprogramming is?
>>17532851Try watching a good one, like Geki.
>>17532705I kind of hope Grand is losing to Oma one on one, but then turns the battle around by just summoning all 19 other Heisei Riders all at once.Ex-Aid Muteki then breaks his timestop and then everyone attacks one after the other.
>>17532851Which shows have you watched?
What's with the anon uploading OZC downloads on nyaa?
>>17532851watch something like abaranger and i guarantee that you won't be bored
>>17532853>That's literally Kiva's chair.....you know, I give Bandai props for that. That's actually in character for Beast to steal Kiva's chair.
Can Sougo defeat his future self or it'll be a draw
>Grand debuts>Doesn't use King Rouzer or Medagabryu
>>17532914If Grand grants him immunity to time freeze, then he has a chance. At that point, it probably depends on how powerful the form is.
>>17532674Sougo has Woz.Geiz had his own Woz.Why not let /krg/ have its own Woz?
Is Grand stronger than Decade?
What does Sougo intend to do once he defeats Oma Zi-O? Nothing he does seems to actually negate Oma Zi-O's existence. The future is still set in stone. No matter how much he claims the future can be changed, the fact that the future Oma Zi-O resides in still exists means that he's still definitely going to become Oma Zi-O no matter what he does. So even if he goes to the future and kills Oma Zi-O, what would that accomplish? That's still gonna result in half of the human race getting wiped out and the remaining half living in misery for fifty years, with all cultural, societal and technological advancements crushed and set back.
>>17532965We'll have to see what Grand can actually do. The most important factor here is how strong Grand Zi-O himself is, as in his overall attack strength, speed and durability. Decade Complete Form was obscenely strong even without using KamenRides.
because toei does not revive metal hero as series franchise?
>>17532969Metal Heroes isn't a cohesive franchise. There's nothing to revive. When will you retards stop asking?
>>17532969They tried. Remember those Metal Heroes films that they released a while back? There's no point anyway. Upon the start of the Heisei Kamen Rider series, Toei basically cannibalized a lot of Metal Heroes concepts and absorbed them into Kamen Rider. Modern Kamen Rider can, as such, be considered as a fusion of Kamen Rider and Metal Heroes.
>>17532969>isn't a cohesive franchisehow so?
>>17532972Gavan reboot flopped too so they had to go to DVD for the other two.
>>17532972what metal hero series it's a good start point?
is there really a krg discord?
>>17532877>Ex-Aid Muteki then breaks his timestopAnd hyper Kabuto, Faix accel, Drive Formula Etc.
>>17532967Something something Great Leader
>>17533003>Drive FormulaThat's now how Drive works, anon.
>>17532973Remember when they did the Gavan movie and the later Space Shariff V-Cinema? Those were called "Space Shariff NEXT GEN", not "Metal Heroes NEXT GEN". People don't remember Metal Heroes as a brand, only their favorite specific shows. In fact, Toei didn't even use the term themselves until the series was practically over and it certainly was never referenced on screen. The closest they have to brand is the Space Sheriff trilogy, which is why those got movies. The only thing any of those shows have in common is that at least one guy wears metal armor, and Rider is already doing that literally right now. There is no point in using the Metal Heroes """branding""" outside of V-Cinema, because the V-Cinema buying tokuota are the only people who care about that """franchise""" as a franchise.
>>17533012Something something heavy pressure
This is the secondary Rider of Drive, Kamen Rider Mach. Say something nice about him.
>>17533019best character in Drive
>>17533019Hang yourself jacob
>>17532851Pretty much >>17532862. Try the older series, even the 80s/90s stuffs. Shinkenger was considered the gold standard for Sentai back in the days, like W for Riders, might've changed, but if you haven't tried it give it 10 or so episodes. Sentai in general is a lot more episodic than Rider though, even throughout the 2 episodes arc era, so if you like serial storytelling Sentai will seem repetitive. The episode format is samey as well, following the usual problem -> monster caused it -> beat monster -> it grows large -> mech fight -> end.> what other tokusatsu franchise do you recommend?Garo is pretty good, but its also episodic. I had some trouble getting past the first series because I preferred serial storytelling, but the movies were good, and Makai Senki hooked me super hard.
>>17533019Ruined the show for me because he was so annoying. Cool suit though.
>>17531275>Kanna Mori>JAVWHOA WAT????I need more info here!
>>17532965I think they are trying to keep Decade the strongest but have him be a lonewolf plainswalker.
>>17533019His final battle is one of thw most satisfying in the franchise for me
>>17532862Why can't they make a more mature Sentai? Why do they make it so childlike? Clearly Kamen Rider is doing better in the ratings compared to Sentai.
>>17533053Because brightly colored spandex can only be taken so seriously? At least armor looks cool.
>>17533053Because Bandai will complain if toy sales are low. They alright said that Gobusters did poorly because it was too dark for kids.
>>17532967I still say it's gonna be an asspull twist that Oma isnt Sougo. Or at the very least if it is Sougo he'll be revealed to somehow be doing all this for an ultimately good reason.
>>17533053Sentai doesn't have a large adult fanbase like Rider does. They exist, but they are far fewer in number in Japan.
>>17533053>Rider>MatureAre you for real?
>>17533053>doing better in the ratingsIt's really not. Last series to do significantly better than Sentai on average was Ghost. Ratings are down across the board.
>>17533073I don't think rating matters nowadays because of Toei's streaming site which I hear does very well and a lot of people are streaming.
>>17533078You're absolutely right, but I don't want anon being delusional and thinking things that aren't true.
The bigger problem is toy sales. Sentai's in a bit of trouble.
>>17533070Most people see Rider as preteens to teen stuff at least in Japan. Sentai is more for 6-10 year olds. Ultraman is for boomers though.
>>17533094men, 2015 was a fall
I haven't kept up with Kamen Rider since Fourze or Wizard. Which of the seasons since then are worth watching? Also, have they shown off the next rider yet?
>>17533113All of them except Gaim__
>>17533113Gaim if you want something like ryuki, drive for classic fun, Ex-aid for more experimental shit and Build for the most balanced show of the Heisei era.
>>17533113We only have the name (Zero-One), we have to wait til around mid-July for his proper design.
>>17533113all except Ghost and Ex-aid
>>17533128but poppy :(
>>17533132Her and Dan were the only enjoyable parts of it
>>17533113All of them except fuck you, watch all of them.
>>17533093They absolutely do fucking not. All Kamen Rider merchandise aside from CSM and P-Bandai stuff is marketed at the child demographic. I don't mean like 12 year olds, I mean 6-7 year olds. Go watch any Japanese kid youtube channel, they almost all hit their KR phase at around the same age bracket and it's normally right after their Sentai phase (4-5ish, after their Anpanman and Doraemon phases)
>>17533019hate his helmet and shoulder, love everything else about him
>>17533235We're brothers!We're happy and we're singing and we're colored!Give me a high-five!
>>17533249Damn you Golfgom!
>>17533235I'm glad Kotaro and Nobuhiko made up.
>>17533249that's cool and all but everbody already watched Rider Time'sbetter luck next time, Ignis
>>17533019One of the best secondary suits desu senpai
>>17533039Kill yourself. He's awesome. KAMEN LAIDAAAAAAAAAA MAHAAAAAAAA
I can't believe O-T released the episode before Precure this week. based
>>17533019Kino suit design
There isnt enough kamen rider hentai and thats a huge crime
is there a cooler final fight?
>>17533428No, for pure virtue of final kamen rider villains often sucking. Like how is big OOO medal thing and Gremlin meant to compete with that?
>>17533431This was good too.
What's gonna happen in the Drive arc
You now remember best and cutest and most beautiful rider girl.
>>17533439That's not Beverly
I miss him bros ;__;
>>17533438We'll only know for sure in two weeks when we get the first previews for the arc after Den-O's (although it might be just part 2 of the Oma battle, and in that case it might not reveal anything).
>>17532653Oh look, bike riding. Good thing they still haven't forget what the show is called.
>>17533483I think it was confirmed that Drive's Arc was gonna be held off until Over Quartzer? Correct me if I'm wrong.
>>17533490Isn't the reason for so little bike stunts the fact that they're limited by japanese laws? Something against restrictions on customized bikes or something
Kabuto's arc has me want to pick up Kabuto and binge-watch. Is it worth watching? I've heard that the budget takes a hit after the first half but how bad is it?
>>17533507Yeah that's it.
>>17533510It has one of the greatest toku fight-scene, ever. That sun-set scene. Someone please webm this for me https://twitter.com/Omgiamonfire/status/1131002194612895745So yes just watch it.
I'm in love with a Kamen Rider character, what should i do?
>>17533501We don't really know, I don't think it's been explicitly said. They keep hammering in that they still need to get the watch, and the movie has more or less been said to be set after the series (and more specifically, after he gets all the watches). If the movie is set after the show, it'd be odd to conclude the collectathon arc of the last 10 episodes with the last one hanging over their heads for the rest of the series. Drive could just get double coverage like Den-O or something.Personally I expect we'll still see a Drive arc, with an Another Drive and everything, and maybe it'll be used to help set up Over Quartzer, since we always have one or two episodes that try and advertise the movie around the time it comes out.
>>17533019>Kino design almost ruined by retarded wheel on the shoulder'ate Roidmudelove me sislove me bro simple as
>>17533510>I've heard that the budget takes a hit after the first half but how bad is it?Clock Up effects basically only start being used for a few scenes with Hyper Clock Up, with the other Riders basically not using Clock Up anymore aside from a couple of scenes where they use it just to get overwritten by Hyper Clock Up.Aside from that, suits and attack effects remain basically the same.
>>17533019"It said go, didn't it?"
So basically this confirms that the Generation Forever film was a timeline created by Zi-O, and isn't canon to the other shows (ie. Build wasn't a part of it)If I can figure it out>Sougo fights Another riders>Sougo wants to see the real riders>Sougo's dreams creates a world where he sees them (Ie. Generation Forever, which this would explain why an imagin appears in our "real world")>Sougo sperges out and wants to make his own OC riders (Shinobi, Quiz, Kikai arcs)>Sougo's powers reaches out to the real world as he now wishes to meet the actual riders. Thus all the current episodes now letting original characters come back with no issues.Is Sougo just the embodimen.t of autism?
>>17533113Best three post Fourze areGaim, Ex-aid, Build
>>17533428Kuuga vs. Daguva
>>17533478I would good money for a three stooges remake, only with Evolto, Shin Dan Kuroto, and Woz.
Someone pls post kouta's henshin sequence
>>17533478>I miss him
>>17533510The plot of the last third kinda crumbles under its weight, but then again that's pretty standard fare for Rider. Also some production issues like certain actors not being available and them basically dropping elaborate Clock Up scenes. The first 30-something episodes are amazing though.
Just finished the Accel movie, I didn't like him at all in the series but Terui Ryu was pretty cool in this one
>Write a good another rider >spend arc on Ginga instead Is this some deep level reference to how Kiva had great ideas but terrible writing and focus?
wtf is with all the OZC live being uploaded on Nyaa??
>>17533405>Still released it after Rider Timethey might as well spend their time doing something more relevant, like subbing the Build V Cinema or all those other backlogged projects, or they can just fuck off to play overwatch and shitpost in discord
>>17533739The Kiva arc was written by Inoue himself. He's just demonstrating that he hasn't lost his touch when it comes to making absolute shit.
>>17533510Kabuto was my first Rider, and I honestly think it's one of the worst I've seen in terms of writing. It's carried by spectacular visuals and some entertaining characters, but it's a combination of the two worst writers in tokusatsu and it really shows. Plot points are introduced and dropped at random, several characters completely change their personalities without explanation, and the ending is total nonsense. You can still have fun with it, just expect a story more like the Kiva arc than the Kabuto one.
>>17533840what's a well written rider to you then?
>>17533739Inoue be playing 4D chess, anon
>>17533853W, OOO, Fourze, Gaim, Drive, Ex-Aid, and Build all come to mind. Zi-O's been okay writing-wise too, or at least it hasn't shit the bed yet. By and large, Phase 2 Heisei is a gigantic leap forward in writing quality over most of Phase 1.
>>17533874Besides Ex-Aid, fairI prefer majority of heisei 1 myself
So... can we take it that all the Legend Riders who were erased in the first quarter (Build, Ex-Aid, Fourze, Faiz, Wizard, OOO, Gaim, Ghost) have come back off-screen, what with all these space-time distortions and all.
>>17533900No. There's absolutely nothing that tells you this happened. Grand ZI-O just summons copies to fight. They're not the literal Riders. The only Rider who had their history erased then restored so far is just Build.
>>17533900The point of the time distortions is that the Riders from timelines where they exist now coexist with a timeline where they're erased (thus Kagami being around with powers but Shibuya not being destroyed), so they might be around, although obviously nothing is confirmed yet.>>17533904>Grand ZI-O just summons copies to fight. They're not the literal Riders.They do seem to be taken from specific moments. You can see the background behind Gaim when he is called and OOO literally came alongside the pillars he destroyed in his first Rider Kick. The summons this episode were all from very early in the series, but we know that they will use stuff from later episodes next episode already.
>>17533019For around 20-25 straight episodes the writers had this issue with him and Chase both being competent at the same time. When one was fine, the other was being a total dipshit. When the writers finally stop doing that Gou becomes the best character in the show though.
>>17533885Why has Ex Aid hate just popped up all of a sudden?
>>17533715I prefer both of W's V-Cinemas to the show itself personally.
>>17533980it was always shit
Wait, is this week golfgom week? The meme about Uncle's name literally meaning "The time is June 16th" and that whatever twist there is with him will be revealed on that date doesn't work then
>>17533996Golfgom IS the twist
>>17533996it's almost like that wasn't ever going to be a twist
>>17534005I mean you've gotta admit that his name is oddly specific
>>17533996>inb4 he shows up in golf
>>17534007Junichiro is an actual common name though, it's not even an unusual or made up one.
>>17534007It's reading his name in a weird way to force that meaningadmittedly that is the sort of thing some of these shows would do wordplay-wise but it's not a surefire guarantee
>>17534007Junichiro is about as common a name as Steve or William.
>>17533996>The meme about Uncle's name literally meaning "The time is June 16th"It doesn't. His name is 順一郎. IIRC that's basically just like saying he's the first son of a family.
>>17533996Why does this dude wear a giant rolex watch strap as his final form? Does he use time travel to fight?
>>17533980it's some dedicated shitposter, see >>17533988
>>17534041>giving my opinion is shitpostingok retard
Hei gueiz, what's going on in this topiX?
>>17534043>replies right away after people call him out on shitpostingkeep on shitposting you shitposter retard
still fell like a let down that they had the mummified form of the original Kuuga, Riku as a guest appearance to return for the Kamen Rider Zi-O series, while the ones that gotten most of the returning cast was for Den-O, with the ones from Ryuki just behind.
Guys, i have concept>New build movie>Evil rider >his name is Kamen Rider Heye>he uses Evol Driver and Rose/Comic fullbottles
>>17534109They asked Odagiri to return and he refused. You will never see the original Kuuga out of suit again.
Just wondering, this monster suit was rehashed and turned into Abyss, right?https://youtu.be/z-8l2SrMpFY
>>17534205We can though
>>17533019Should have got more Signal Bikes
>>17533996That's what you think.
>>17532789Do Barx, Zamanos, and Jinzos count as Q4 riders? Fourth Quarter normally had the movie stuff.
>>17534346Kamen Rider Fuma, a movie Rider, was in the Q4 catalogs for Ex-Aid, so yeah.
>>17534346We don't know if they are going to get toys though
>>17534346Their toys are going to be sold in a set through P-Bandai
When's the DX Neo Diendriver shipping again?
>>17534421They have exclusive Watches, there's no way those won't be released considering how even the Another Riders got their Watches released.
The older gif looked like shit, i'm gonna leave this here.
>>17534109>>17534205I love Odagiri, but getting Kenji Tominaga to reprise his role as Riku in Zi-O via some time-travel shenanegans would've been fucking great, IMO.
>>17534489This is great.What am I looking at?
>>17534489holy shit what
>>17534508Wizard's (summer movie) net movies.
Post Kamen Rider who are jobbers
>>17534532That fake leak from the previous threads featured a lot of jobbers.
I wish Tsukasa would transform again.
>>17534508It was a popular dance routine at the time from some boy band. It even influenced ToQger's roll call.
>>17534532Gills>Jobbed in lifeFemme>GirlTheBee>Become a scum in life.>TheBee-Zecter keeps getting cucked.Gridon>NEVER GIVE UUUPP
>>17534212Isn't that one of Abyss's contracts?
>>17533003>Hyper KabutoCan't break timestop, but can travel through time. If time is stopped, so is he unless there was something officially stated on the matter.>Faiz AccelHe just moves really fucking fast, he doesn't actually warp time. Again, unless something official contradicts this.>Drive FormulaAgain, moves really fast. Not able to ignore stopped time.Muteki is the only rider we know of that, in the series itself, can ignore time stopping abilities. Even Zi-O can't do that unless it's shown Grand Zi-O can on its own.
>>17534648Is it? I thought the giant shark was his contract monster instead all along, those just seem part of the grunts sent by the evil group from Decade series (whatever it was)
>>17534489>Cycling their knuckles>and then there is Faizreally open my eyes
>>17534665*circling their fists
>>17534661The giant shark is a fusion of those two monsters. Dai-Shocker wouldn't appear in the show until almost half a year later.
>>17532817Pay attention instead of skipping over everything that isn't loud noises and explosions; they explain that MMX has the ability to reprogram both human and bugster DNA. It's how Kuroto bites the dust and Para-DX 99 becomes a thing.>>17533019His deadheat jingle is better than Drive's.>>17533478It's fine, he'll come back in 2020 for New World Evolt with a new form using the Hazard Trigger instead of the Evol Trigger and the Dinosaur Evol Bottle fighting for Love and Peace on his home planet. I don't see why they wouldn't do it since he's clearly as much of a cash cow as Dan Kuroto was.>>17534109I still don't get the appeal of Kuuga. I sat down and marathoned the show and I didn't really enjoy it. What's more, the ending is a bit of an anticlimax. Agito feels to me at least like what Kuuga should have been, Kuuga just feels like what it is an attempt to reinvent the series and get it back on the map, while Agito basically took the formula and refined it. Kuuga isn't awful but I don't remember anything about it other than the thumbs-up meme and the fact the last fight was barely a fight.
>>17534674Kuuga is fine, but overrated. All the boomers here love it just to be pretentious.
>>17534703Enjoy it while it lasts
>>17534703Did Kohanna came back to Zi-O as Hannah?
Can Decade move in the stopped time?
>>17534714He didn't in the previous arc when past tsukuyomi stopped time.
>>17534718He's the only one who doesn't seem surprised, perplexed or uncomfortable when his time's stopped, though.
>>17534663Lmao thanks for this
>>17534674Kuuga has one of the best riders and some of the best scenes, but the pacing is really really slow, so yeah Agito is overall better
>>17534225They had a second set of 4 signal bikes planned in the toyline, it wasn't released because the Mach Driver sold like shit. It was also the last "full fledged" secondary rider belt toywise, everything after is severely crippled (Necrom/Sclash Driver/BeyonDriver) voice and pin wise.
>>17534773>it wasn't released because the Mach Driver sold like shitStop making shit up. Every belt has a fuckton of unused stock sounds. I guess Build did terribly because we never got F1Saurus and GoldScorpion, right?
>>17534710I know it's going to suck. >>17534713No she didn't.
>>17534842Hana best heroine
>>17534859Up to this day I still think she was meant to transform into Den-O’s wing form on the last episode before her retcon.
>>17534862Why the fuck would you think that? The suit is basically a repainted Sword Form with wing eyes made with Takaiwa's measurements in mind.
>>17534870Sieg was sent to be with her while she was still a fetus and be her guardian for all her life to protect her from the Imagins, he was basically going to be her Taros/Deneb, but he end up in the wrong place.
>>17534676LONG LOOOOOONG BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK
>>17534674>A good main Rider>A even better secondary protagonist>Everyone in the support cast was usefull to the overall narrative>Consistent tone and pacing>It appeals to realismfags with grounded fights, autorities acting over the problem and a clear victim count>Balanced forms>Is the heisei rider with most bike stunts>While the Ost is average, the Op and Ending were really good
>finally got time to watch Kabuto arc>got hyped when they showed the early portion of NEXT LEVEL (bug wings thing) only to cut back to Zi-o's>did you laugh at my bro dude>but I'm not your bro I'm a worm>came out rather disappointedWhy did it feel so plain?
>>17534920Because Kabuto is plain
>>17534713Hana's actress straight up retired from the industry citing I think a chronic fatigue disorder. There have been rumors she was harassed, but nothing proving that has ever come out.
>>17532754It looks like the movie form might be closer to Sougo's version of Oma Zi-O, a Zi-O evolved to completion without relying on the other Riders.
My friend wants to watch OOO's, who has the best sub?
>>17535073Don't be boringSay yesDon't be dull
>>17535073I like Charge more than normal and Great Cross-Z
>>17534920>came out rather disappointed>Why did it feel so plain?No Tendou
>>17535085that's immediately what I thought when I saw that theme
>>17535073I dropped Zi-O after Ghost and only gathered the energy to hop back in during the Agito/Blade arcs. Sogou and Geiz during the Forever movie were better characters than they've been during the entire show and I feel like I've been burnt out so hard that I might skip the next Rider season just to recuperate.
>>17535097scene* I'm retarded
>>17533439I want to protect her smile, while she steps on me
>>17535073I like kitbashes/recolors.
>>17535062over-time has alot of name changes for the sake of memes but is accuratetv-n is hardcoded and has honorifics, the translation isnt that bad.
>>17534801man... I hate her character in Gaim but damn she's hot
So if you had to rate Zi-O out of 10 possible points so far, what score would you give it and why?Are you happy with the culmination of the heisei raiders?
>>17535239I'll wait until it's over, thanks.
>>175352394/10. The rider tributes were so insultingly bad outside of Decade/Ghost, Agito, Blade and maybe Kabuto that they might as well not even have happened in the first place. When you have that and Zi-O's incredibly bland, forgettable original plot that can't even be helped by their cast since they're just as poorly written outside of their movie appearance it just all feels like a waste of time.
>>17534774Mach Driver selling like shit was why the later secondary belt got completely nuked in terms of voice and functionality. This was well documented back when Drive was airing, stock level for it were consistently high for both physical and netvendors. GoldScorpion and F1Saurus were replaced by other matches due to production reasons.
>>17535239I would make this but with all heisei series, cuz why not.Kuuga-8/10Agito-9/10 Ryuki-7/10Faiz-5/10Blade-8/10Hibiki-3/10Kabuto-6/10Den-o-7/10Kiva-4/10Decade-4/10W-8/10OOO-9/10Fourza-8/10Wizard-5/10Gaim-7/10Drive-8/10Ghost-2/10Ex-aid-7/10Build-9/10 Zi-o-5/10
>>17535239At the moment, it's probably the most 6/10 show in the world. If it sticks the landing, that could bring it up to a 7/10 easily.
>>17535073I like Genius.
>>17535073I think Gaim is the best one so far and what a ride it was. The second best was OOO for me.I really wish tough that another show like Gaim releases one day, I can't stress enough how much Gaim impressed me.
>>17535249Kuuga 8/10Agito 9/10Ryuki 8/10Faiz 10/10Blade 9/10Hibiki 1/10Kabuto 9/10Den-O 7/10Kiva haven't watchedDecade 6/10W 10/10OOO 8/10Fouze 7/10Wizard haven't watchedGaim 7/10Drive 9/10Ghost haven't watchedEx-aid 2/10Build 9/10Zi-O 7/10
>>17535247I wonder if this is the new meme some anon is gonna try to push, that the characters were somehow written at all differently in the show and the movie. The future of /krg/ shitposting is bright and full of possibilities, I guess.
>>17535268>that the characters were somehow written at all differently in the show and the movieAre you going to just ignore an entire scene where Geiz acts completely different to how he acts in the show, anon?
>>17535239Maybe 5.5, or 6
>>17533019Despite every bad thing that could happen to a 2nd Rider happened to him he still came out on top
>>17535275Ok, you got me there, nerd Geiz was fun.
>>17535280More tsundere than anything.
>>175352396/10 overall, 4/10 to maybe 8/10 depending on the episode.
>>17535239Why would you want to rate a series that hasn't finished yet?
https://twitter.com/bandai_ridertoy/status/1138340570030469120?s=09Have you bought your award winning Japanese children's toy yet?
>>17534862Fuck that would have been kino. Den-O would have had three riders. Hana could have been to Den-O what Kivaala was to Kiva, but even better.Perhaps in a better timeline.......
>>17535252Exactly this, I agree.
>>17535346This is like "Best toy 2019"?
Gentarou's friends are shit, christ. They''ve left him in one of the hardest moments.
the zio final all Heisei riderkick
>>17535437Would make for a nice dance.
>>17535078Excellent taste, anon
>>17535439Put Kusaka on the ground, now!
>>17535439why does inoue always have a rape face?
>>17535254Despite hating it, it's at least a less of an offence to the eyes compared to Grand.
>>17535471It's always on his mind, so of course it'd always be on his face as well.
>>17535099should've dropped out earlier. Ghost burnt me out so bad I didn't really touch Ex-Aid until way down the track into its airing
>>17534699>All the boomers here love it just to be pretentious.Don't be a twat; it just has a different focus and style to most Rider which, like Hibiki 1-29, makes it feel refreshingly different to to some anons.It's also true that it's slow and has a somewhat anticlimactic ending, though.
>>17534562Neat, thanks. Does anyone know the name of the group?
>>17535475Don't exaggerate. They're both equally hideous.
>>17535489Grand is better
>>17535259>Ex-Aid 2/10>Zi-O 7/10
>>17535073I get identified with Ryugen and I actually like him
>>17535535Oh fuck, not again
>>17535533Dude gave Faiz 10/10, what do you expect?I mean, I loved Faiz but it's a hot mess.
>>17535539He only wants to protect his friends like an upstanding member of society, what's not to like about Micchy?
>>17535542what do i expect? faiz is my fav series, you fucking nigger. However giving ex-aid 2 and zi-o 7 is just out of this world.
>>17535542A lot of Phase 1 Rider shows were pretty messy in terms of writing. A good half of them had too many chefs in the kitchen who couldn't agree on the direction of the story, or writers who left the show partway leaving another writer to clean it up. Also, Inoue.Ryuki: Kobayashi and Inoue pretty much completely ignored each other. You can really see the two are completely incompatible and they probably don't like each other much either.555: InoueBlade: Near as I can tell, the series exchanged hands at some point and they suddenly introduce a bunch of non-existent plot points that weren't there halfway through the show's run. I'd honestly say that his was probably one of the clumsiest shows in the franchise.Hibiki: Old guy in charge didn't understand that Kamen Rider is a merchandise-driven show which caused toy sales to tank. They booted him in order to salvage things, to the chagrin of a lot of people. Also, Inoue.Kabuto: Had two main writers and both had polar opposite views in terms of how the show's tone and characters were treated. Also they kept introducing new plot threads, making the show sorta ADD.Kiva: InoueDecade: Multiple head writers. First writer didn't agree with the direction the others wanted to take it, so he left. Also, Inoue. The movies were supposed to heavily tie into the show, but A) Kaneda's an incompetent piece of shit and B) executives completely fucked with the second film and forcibly turned it into a double feature with W, destroying Decade's finale.Starting from Phase 1, quality became more or less consistent, thanks in part to Inoue not writing anything anymore. Except when he did.
>>17535556I actually enjoy inoue stuff.
>>17535437That’d be pretty fucking kino to hear the rider countdown.
>>17535566Get lost, Kusaka.
>>17535566You enjoy shallow writing then. I'm not gonna say the other writers are particularly deep or insightful, but Inoue is obscenely shallow. He only cares about shock value and will do stupid shit purely in order to surprise the audience. His writing is too visceral, even when it wouldn't benefit the story, and often far too self-centered.His comedy isn't completely terrible, though, so I'm willing to give him that.
Couldn't they have come up with a better idea than this? I mean it just ripps of Decade Complete and Diend. Or even Kamen Rider Wizard when he was wearing all the Rider rings. Or Kamen Rider Fifteen. Or Kamen Rider Gaim when he had the Rider Fruits. The transforming/summoning other Riders is really played. They need to keep it unique to certain riders now before it becomes far too common. If they wanted to do it again, just do a Decade Season 2. Or tie with Decade more directly somehow.
>>17535556>Decade: Multiple head writers. First writer didn't agree with the direction the others wanted to take it, so he left. Also, Inoue. The movies were supposed to heavily tie into the show, but A) Kaneda's an incompetent piece of shit and B) executives completely fucked with the second film and forcibly turned it into a double feature with W, destroying Decade's finale.Wasn't the Sentai Gokaiger crossover movie Decade's true series finale?
>>17535574Yeah, that's what i like in his stuff, it's straight out stupidity.
No. Decade's finale was supposed to be a film called Masked Rider Decade VS All Riders. It was meant to be bundled with a W mini-film centering around Begins Night which featured the original case that kickstarted the show, similar to how Kamen Rider summer movies always have a very short Sentai film preceding them. However, executives mandated that W and Decade get equal billing for the film, so the W segment had to be greatly expanded on while the Decade segment was shortened and heavily rewritten. Electro Human Tackle's significance to the film was a holdover from the original script, in which Decade defeats Stronger at the beginning of the story.
>>17535249>Decade-4/10I'd give Decade a 6/10. It was better than Wizard, and Hibiki. It was a party series. >Ghost-2/10Why is Ghost so low for you?
>>17535580Damn, now instead of a handful of characters being able to do it it's a handful of characters plus one.Toei is really losing their minds here. At this rate in about a thousand years every character will be able to summon Riders.
>>17535580yes but this one summons every form he wants and has a unique aesthetic which doesn't "summon" the riders but warps them from exact points from the past series, hence ooo appears with the pillars from his first fight
>>17535592If they already have Decade and the actor available, then why bother making such a similar concept-character again? At least before they could claim they couldn't get the actor back because reasons and had to make do. But in this case Masahiro lives down the street from the studio.
>>17535556So could Ghost be part of this?Not shitting it Ghost or other seasons but I heard that Ghost's main writer left halfway and too many could not decide on the direction of the story.
>>17535580>Or Kamen Rider Fifteen. Or Kamen Rider Gaim when he had the Rider Fruits.What? Fifteen just had Rider Armors. That's base Zi-O.They clearly had an idea for a completely standalone Zi-O final form (see Zi-O Oma in the movie) but wanted to push the final tv show form to be something tying him to the other Heisei Riders.>>17535583>Wasn't the Sentai Gokaiger crossover movie Decade's true series finale?Nah, that was created already several years after Decade had ended and had nothing to do with Decade's "plot" (worlds fusing and destroying each other). It's just a post-series appearance that happened to feature Decade a lot.
>>17535594>yes but this one summons every form he wantsIsn't Decade already capable of this? He can summon ultimate forms too.I wanted Zi-O to be it's own unique series. Not jammed pack with past references that it can't even develop its own story outside of being the plot device that summons other riders. We already have Tsukasa for that.>which doesn't "summon" the riders but warps them from exact points from the past series, hence ooo appears with the pillars from his first fightSo he is the love child of DiEnd and Den-O? I mean the result is the same so what is the point?The only way I'll accept this is if they push the time summon concept to it's logical limit. Like Zi-O summons Decade "Fury" from his movie (2012??) and Decade Fury starts beating on Neo Decade and Tsukasa is like "damn fighting myself is really annoying. I really was an a-hole in that movie of mine."
>>17535600The form in the movie's a cheap kitbash.
>>17535596It's not really that similar to Complete's shit in the first place, Decade can only have one Rider out at a time for the most part and less than an autonomous summon it's just a mirror of his own self, they don't do shit without him. Zi-O's summons can be in any form, do whatever he wants, and be as many as he wants (as far as we know). It's closer to Diend's summons, but not really the same (though the result may be or may not be functionally the same. We'll probably find out based on how things with Climax go in a couple weeks).
>>17535609They can only recreate actions they took in the past.
>>17535605It's actually mostly original. It resembles Oma Zi-O, but doesn't actually use parts from him. New helmet, big collar like Oma's but the mold is actually different (no spikes). Shoes resemble standard Zi-O, but have some extra details and connect to new leg armor...>>17535612Wait for the proper debut next week. Den-O is supposed to be a summon according to the magazine text.
>>17535609Decade can summon all the Riders at once if he wants. Just like he did in his own movie.
>>17535626Huh? No, he has given final forms to all Riders next to him in Movie Wars 2010, but he never actually summoned them.
>>17535615Based on the preview, it looks like the Taros take possession of it.
>>17535629He can open a dimensional wall and bring them to his location. He'a done it before.
>>17535615Oma Form's boots are just Trinity's.And Tv-kun says Momotaros possesses the Den-O Grand Zi-O summons I thought maybe it'd be a more autonomous summon, but maybe not.
>>17535626So Grand really is just Complete v2. Does this mean Ohma is Violent Emotion Zi-O?
You know at this rate, Another Drive is pretty much confirmed that he will be some Vcinema/gaiden exclusive character right?
>>17535636Not really. Zi-O still needs a few more new monster suits for the upcoming episodes.
>>17535636Also, Another Rider Watch pack 3 left out Another Kabuto and Another Ryuki, so we're still getting at least Another Decade and Drive to complete a set 4, likely even more like maybe an Another Oma Zi-O (the packs so far had 5 -> 6 -> 7 Watches, so we're likely getting more than 4 Watches there).
>>17535552Ignoring the racial pejoratives, as I said, I loved Faiz - I'd happily give it an 8/10 for everything it does fantastically.10/10 is literally saying it's flawless, though. I'd honestly love to hear a justification of how Faiz's messy plot is immune to criticism.
>>17535629Yes he did. Re-watch the film. He summoned them all at once. You are dead wrong and bring shame to this thread.
>>17535642yeah, it's my fav series but i'd give it an 8.5 or 9 out of 10
Amazing how fourze sticked to the monster of the week formula for it's entirety, but overall it's a pretty fun series, 7/10.
>>17535633Maybe but...I also have a fun alternative theory in headI like to believe that Tsukasa is so powerful now that he has mastered the decade powers. This whole series is just Tsukasa treating Zi-O as a test lab rat to see if Tsukasa can incorporate the power of time into his Neo Decade belt. Tsuakasa is manipulating everything and recording the results.
Does anyone have that picture of the fat Shotaro cosplayer?
>>17535666>Got trips with 666>Asking for a cursed imageLeave Satan, if you need ways to torture people, why don't you go ask Inoue to make a new show?
>>17535668I just wanted to show it to my friend. Don't be lame, be cool.
>>17535346Reminder the only Heisei belt didn't get the best toy award is Drive's driver.
>>17535601>I wanted Zi-O to be it's own unique series. Not jammed pack with past references that it can't even develop its own story outside of being the plot device that summons other riders. You are fucking retarded. Zi-O is designed to be anniversary series with tons of cameos and callbacks to previous series. Trying to remove all previous season stuff is like not including Pokemon when making Pokemon game.It defeat the entire point.
>>17535601It's a fucking anniversary season, dumbass, what do you expect? seriously, you ABSOLUTELY CAN'T be that retarded. Kill yourself.
I wanted Zi-O to have a fusion gimmick but we didn’t get that because of Build.
>>17535682You didn’t get that cause it’s a dumb gimmick for ultra babies.
>>17535645They were popping out of their own will there after their worlds were restored, then were left behind when the mecha mammoth appeared and then were taken by Diend to the crossover bit.You're also ignoring that this method of "summoning" is much less convenient though. It's not really comparable to being summoned with a Wizard ring for example when they appear transformed and get a basic gist of the situation. Decade's dimensional walls suddenly popping up to bring someone like Sento to the battlefield out of nowhere would just result in a confused Sento who might not even be carrying his belt at the time.
>>17535648My favourite thing about Faiz is how stylish the designs are. For one thing, everything about the base Faiz form just blows all other Rider designs out of the water, IMO. The suit itself, the Faiz gear, the lights, the sounds (especially "Stending by"), the awesome transforming bike. Fucking 10/10, no question.
>>17535690Decade is le keikaku man. He'd probably sort things out beforehand if it came to it.
>>17535683The one chap does a pretty good Phillip, to be fair.
>>17535664So you think we’re dealing with Great Leader Tsukasa?
>>17535702Where's Zi-O's neck?
>>17535707He lost it during his second oma zi-o fight
>>17535254I like Genius too, anon
>>17533530>the movie has more or less been said to be set after the seriesSource?
>>17535683>Count up your Calories
>>17535789It has been said to take place after Zi-O obtains all Watches, and also has repeatedly been described as the "True Ending" of the series.
>>17535809I know they said that about Ex-Aid, but didn't they also market Build like that too or something?I may be misremembering.
>>17535809So what’s gonna happen to the show? Will it not have an ending?
>>17535814TV series will have its end, but not the true end.
>>17535809They say the same fucking shit every year to get people to come to the theater.Ex-Aid ended up getting Another Ending V-Cinext as True True Ending and we are getting Grease New World as Build Final Chapter.
>>17535812In Build's case people assumed it'd be post series because the movie was described as taking place after the war had ended and Japan had been unified, but it wasn't described repeatedly as the "true ending" like they're doing with Zi-O's.>>17535814Probably will be like Ex-Aid, where the series still has a pretty conclusive final arc, and the movie just has new villains popping up afterwards (the Quartzers) so it's mostly unrelated and doesn't spoil the final arc much aside from making it obvious the main cast lives.
Name my band
>>17535822The movie will reveal who the fuck have erased Drive from history. Sougo and friends will need to travel to the Sengoku period to protect Krim and Drive's history. Their action will also the bring out the "key person who has the power to change the future of the Heisei Riders".Maybe Shirakura will show up as himself in the movie to wrap things up.
>>17535346Holy shit, the Japanese have awful taste.
>>17535854Statement applies to ALL Rider fanboys.
>>17535854I always thought it looked fun to spin
>>17535864Nice try.>>17535867You most have very low standards for “fun”.
Coming Sunday is Golf-Sunday.
>>17535675They went against peaked Yokai Watch and the belt pretty much sucked compared to the others.
Here is your zero one bros
>>17535921Hearing Travis say Henshin was so hype. I think Suda was hinting at being a Riderbro in that one stream with the Zi-O Build figure he was playing with
>english-speaking contriles slowly adding japanese vocabs in daily lives>subfags are still too lazy to learn the language
>>17535804>pic The rank for its design has skyrocketed in my opinion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpW4cX1qxDk>that henshin>that "passing through assassin"Is Travis Touchdown /m/?
>>17535938Travis dropped a ton of Decade lines in Travis Strikes Again
>>17535835World Destroyers feat. JOKER
>>17535926>I think Suda was hinting at being a Riderbro in that one stream with the Zi-O Build figure he was playing with>HintingDude. He literally interrupted the stream to talk about Kamen Rider for almost 10 minutes straight.
>>17535835Evolto Interdimensional Detective Agency
>>17535642Because I enjoyed it enough to be 10/10 for me, isn't that fucking enough? Not everything has to be objective
>>17533645>I miss him
>>17532817>Skipped 10 eps
>>17532817Reprogramming was a mistake
>>17536061Can’t wait for Power Rider Rogue
>>17532653>rabbit tank>sparkling>cross Z>hazard>grease>rogue>rabbitrabbit and tanktank>magma>mad rogue>evolt 1-4>geniushas any other rider series had so many great designs? Other series have a higher average or better individual designs but Build has a huge amount of suits that rarely dips below 8/10
>>17536073Only makes the Shit-O designs even worse.
>>17536084sparkling is cool but genius sucks.
>>17535938As soon as he said that after saying "Henshin" I got giddy.
>>17535958Which stream ?
>>17535809Why would people go to the movies to see spoilers for the TV show?
>>17535938>Is Travis Touchdown /m/?>obsessed with giant mecha>spent all his assassin money on a giant robot instead of a house>entombed by useless figures>actual 30 year old boomer>prides himself on having unusual tastes>has a retarded naming scheme for his attackstravis is /m/ incarnate.
>>17535938Yo, they need to release a remastered NMH1 and 2 for Switch. Shit would be (and make) cash.
>>17536211>for Switchdumb nintennigger
>>17536211>>>/vg/or >>>/vp/ if pokefag
>>17536214Yeah, God forbid the previous games be ported to the console the third game's releasing on exclusively.
>>17536188Kyukyoku no cum bait
>>17535854What would you know, gaijin?
>>17536188surely you have moar
>going through moon twitter too see reactions of new Smash Bros characters>Handful of replies using UZODA to portray their despairLove how blade memes are still used over there
>>17536344I love this
Who's the faggot posting that shit? fucking stop. go to >>>/s/
>>17536392Shiho/Tomoko, the goth girl from Fourze
>>17535073I really like wizard's fight choreography.I'm a massive sucker for flips and flashy combat
>>17536407>tfw no goth asian gf
>>17535073Inoue is my favorite writer
Did Toei spruce up the Den-Liner’s CG model? It looks way better than it did in Den-O.
>>17535073Ex-Aid is my favorite season.
https://twitter.com/TokuNation/status/1138596533518118912I have no words.
Do you guys keep your files after watching an episode of the show or do you delete them?
>>17536586I delete the broadcast episodes when I'm done and then download the highest quality dvd/Blu-ray subs of the shows &movies and put them in an external HDD.
>>17535867I like the motion but aesthetically it looks like shit. I think it's just too big to make the spin look cool.
>>17536586I keep them until I'm done with the series, unless they're a really good season I plan to rewatch eventually
>>17536586What >>17536590 said.I have an HDD just for toku stuff
>>17535073I'm a massive Den-O, Blade and OOO fanboy.
>>17536600I want to do this: get a 1-2 TB HDD and stuff that fucker full of KR and Ultraman.
Kamen Rider is coming to the US?
>>17536655Based on TokuNation polls, it very well might be.
>>17536659Expect it to be dubbed terribly and edited to avoid offending the average burger. Think Power Rangers but even worse.
>>17536676So the same as the english dubs that Kamen Rider already has?
>>17536690Dubs as in people talking in English, not subs.
>>17536696>Kamen Rider 1971>Kuuga>Project G4>Episode Final>Kabuto>Den-O>Decade>OOO>FourzeAll got dubs, and I'm pretty sure I'm forgetting some others too
>>17536676The polls are going towards simculast subs, actually.
>>17536700>you're hensheening again
>>17536700I remember the Kabuto dub being shite on a stick. Also, was the Hong Kong Fourze dub real? It seemed way too amateur to be real lol
>>17536705With any luck they'd be just as successful as the Ultraman simulcasts were.
>>17536708>Also, was the Hong Kong Fourze dub real?Some of the last episodes on the OZC release have them.
>>17536711Kamen Rider's bigger than Ultraman in the West, so it'd be more successful in that department, what they really need for success is a proper Western storefront for the toys/merch. Because middleman services are used, Bandai and Toei basically have no metrics on Westerners buying anything.
>>17536717>Bandai and Toei basically have no metrics on Westerners buying anythingImplying they give a fuck about Americans buying their goods
>>17536718>JK's voiceholy shit
>>17536720Any market's a market, anon. Why turn down basically free profits?
>>17536700I think Wizard did too
>>17536726Oh yeah, they censored the Donut Guy in that one.
>>17536729So the Donut guy isn't a raging queer in the dub?
>>17536723>Free profitsTsuPro wouldn’t have killed the Ultraman simulcast if it was actually free
>>17536730>>17536731He still is a raging queer, they just got rid of most of his scene, the only scene I remember he showed up was in the first episode when he mentions the rainbow donuts to Haruto, after that he just vanishes.
>>17536738Simulcast =/= Storefront. Are you even paying attention to the conversation or are you just looking for ways to complain about shit?
>>17534023I think he meant like"Toki wa Jun Ichi (1) Ro (6)"But that sounds a bad goroawase, I think if they wanted that, instead of Jun it would be like Muichiro or Roichiro if these names even exist
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