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Flying donut edition

Held down by Earth's gravity >>17123307

THE GAME NOW FEATURES AN ENGLISH TEXT OPTION
To activate english text, activate HARO, and pick the second option from the bottom, then pick the second option from the bottom again. Go right once from the starting choice(Japanese), then back out and confirm. The game will reload, with ALL text now in English


Current drops https://bo2.ggame.jp/jp/items/
How to join http://mobile-suit-gundam-battle-operation-2.wikia.com/wiki/How_to_download_the_game
GBO1 parts http://gundambattleoperation.wikia.com/wiki/Custom_parts
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jivERehsAaTjRyI4chiWz9dYX6L-Sk33VOwkOObzN2k/edit?usp=drivesdk
https://www65.atwiki.jp/battle-operation2/
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I love the city map
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>>17143033
Ez8 with MG is bad
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>>17142692
Did he do it after being knocked down/stunned? You can move your camery around whilst this happens and as soon as the animation ends your ms snaps into your camera angle
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Gouf really needs some extra hand armaments, doesn't even have to be a bazooka just give it like the Zaku MG anything is better than worthless finger vulcans
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I've been having nothing but back luck with the fucking gacha. Decided to roll today and got a fucking Gouf Custom, rolled again and got a Act Zaku beam rifle, rolled third time and got the fucking Act Zaku.
Too bad I didn't have this luck when the fucking Madrock had increased odds.
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>>17143258
You just got 2 MS I really want, how's that unlucky? I get nothing but bop missiles and weapons for MS I don't have, nor want.
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>>17143266
The second sentence was supposed to start with a "but" but then I got distracted and forgot what I was saying.
Fuck.
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>>17143290
Ah, no problem, anon.
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>>17143135
No, he only does it on the spot where I died like a victory dance, its like he's pressing A & D buttons very fast.
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>>17143258
I was a moron and burned a 10-roll on this banner, and the only thing I got of note was a Lv. 1 Proto Gundam. Better than nothing, I guess.
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I'm being indecisive, the Act Zaku looks cool but its not something I absolutely want and the last few banners have me at 0 tokens.
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>tfw killing two Madrocks back to back before dying

IDGAF we lost, I consider this an achievement.
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>>17143739
Honestly, I love MADrock, but it seems kind of weak compared to the goog cannon and guncannon
Still gonna play it over those two to show off my epeen and because it's fun though
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Hey guys, new player here just downloaded today. How long does it typically take to get matches? Should I wait until some peak hours for Japanese players? Are we all in the same pool or does it do it by region? Any helpful hints for a newbie? Should I bother with unranked/ranked? Or just whatever plays faster? Also, how often do they switch mobile suits in the store lottery?
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I'm just going to tack on here and ask what our chances for an American server are.
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>>17144147
0.0%
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>>17144133
Dunno about your other questions, but you should probably go for Rated matches most the time since, in my experience, they go faster
Store, recycle shop, and gacha update on a weekly basis, around every wednesday night
Fuck around in Free Practice to get a feel of the game, and if you press Triangle while an enemy is trying to melee you, you can counter them
There's an English text option somewhere in the settings
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>>17144168
Thanks! Also we may update the OP, when I just set up the game on the main screen it asked me if I wanted English or Japanese. So new players I guess get given that option right off the bat.
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>>17144133
Matchmaking is lobby based and depending on the time of day and what dailies there are, can take anywhere from the instant you join a room, to five minutes
I have the best luck getting matches around 6:00 and 15:00 JST, so convert that to your timezone
All players are one the same server.
Rated matches happen the quickest, so that's where you'll be spending most of your time.
We get a new lottery draw every week, and a rate up draw at least once a month.
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>Rank up then immediately lose it with a bad lose streak.
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So what's in the recycle shop today fellas?
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>>17144432
A bunch of GMs and Zaku Cannon, absolutely nothing of note
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>>17144147
>>17144153
I'm absolutely certain the reason why connections were so shit in Gundam Versus despite the game being in English, was because they were using jpn servers.
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>>17144440
Damn. Saving up for what I really want is driving me crazy.
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>>17143377
The only thing that appeals to me about it is the anti-stealth system. But even that won't help you from Pixy base bombers if you're distracted cuz you're in the middle of a fight.
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>>17144444
>just checking those quints
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>>17144444
I'm gonna wait til I see Kampfer, Alex, or Madrock in the recycle store.
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>>17143258
>2* vs a 3*

higher chance of getting an Act. Straight up.
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>>17144537
You'll be waiting a while then, at least 2 months
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>>17144545
>at least 2 months

Longer, Prototype should be our next 3* showing up in Recycle. As FAG showed up recently.

Both were from September of last year

It should be
>Prototype
>Z'gok-E
>Gelgoog Cannon

They'll space it out with Hygogg somewhere, as he's 2*. Also means we might wait another week if they drop a new recycle only suit. Don't give people too much hope, anon. It'll only hurt later
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Not too sure if it's because im using a first gen ps4 or shitty connection, but im getting massive framedrop when there's more than 4 mobile suit on my screen
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>>17144594
Welcome to Battle Operation
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I love using the dom in 400 battle in the city, boost out and autist attack with rockets and blade, boost back into the city.
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>>17144537
I just want madrock or pale rider Calvary when it comes out but probably won't get them
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>>17144642
The only thing I don't like about the city are the fake streets with invisible walls. You'd THINK you could pass through them on foot to escape ms; but no, enjoy an invisible wall.
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>>17144780
this and how much boost you need to jamp ONTO not over a building.
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>Forty seconds till bomb detonation at our base
>Fucking teammates gangbang a Gouf next to the base
>Nobody bothers getting out to defuse
>Base explodes and the enemy team wins from it

surrounded by retards
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>>17144787
oh yeah, not to mention the buildings you can't actually jump on despite not being that tall.
Game needs a practice mode where you can actually select maps.
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>>17144133
>How long does it typically take to get matches?
Pilot rating matches? Not too long; everyone's playing rating matches.
Quick matches? You're looking at maybe five minutes if you're doing a ground match.
Custom matches? Depends; most rooms are "draw rooms" where people just fuck around for crate drops.

Add an extra five to ten minutes if you want to play on a space map; the only people who like space maps are crazies like me.

>Should I wait until some peak hours for Japanese players?
You'll be fine; the game got an official release in Asia (hence the English option), so you'll have people from all over Asia at most times.

>Are we all in the same pool or does it do it by region?
Game uses Japan's servers.

>Any helpful hints for a newbie?
Don't skip leg day. The very first part you should even consider buying is the Lv. 1 leg armor.
Learn how to use bazookas. It's like leading with the rocket launcher in Doom and Quake, but you're playing with High Ping Bastards all the time. Once you stagger them, move in for the kill and melee the fucker.
Get experience in all three types of mobile suits. You'll eventually have to take team composition in consideration.
Get a GM Sniper Custom eventually.

>Should I bother with unranked/ranked? Or just whatever plays faster?
Rated matches fill up faster. Ranked matches are a different (and completely hellish) thing entirely.

>Also, how often do they switch mobile suits in the store lottery?
For the token lottery? Once a week.
Same with DP roster additions.
RT selections rotate every day.
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>>17144133
Maybe it's just me, but Japanese players are the worst, no joke. Playing with them is like playing with babies.
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Which do you guys prefer for the prototype? Dual sabers of Beam javelin?
I wish it could throw the javelin like in EXVS
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>>17144883
i prefer the sabers, the javelin is too wonky for me sometimes.
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>>17144580
Eh. It's not like I'm gonna use the recycle tickets on anything else.
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>>17144883
General concensus is that the dual sabers are preferred, as the javelin's downswing has an unusual hitbox and most people don't want to acquire enough proficiency to wreck shit with it.

That, and IIRC the dual saber downswing has like a 170% damage modifier.
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>>17144580
How long would you estimate for the Juaggu to hit recycle, 3-4 months or so?
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>>17145380
2stars seem to hit the RT quicker, like the GM Sniper II was in RT and DP way before the Xamel the banner MS it came with even appeared in RT.
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>>17145479
Juaggu is a 3 star unfortunately, but hopefully that means Hygogg and Drac hit sooner rather than later
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Should I be playing with the account I made for the download? Or can I just use my main account to play? I don’t want to be screwed later, but I did get a pretty good pull and wouldn’t want to have to be swapping back and forth, or spend a lot of time to be set back later.
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>>17145757
Only difference is that you can't spend money on tokens on your non-jap account. You also may get good pulls on one account over the other.
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>>17145835
I just had read elsewhere they may sometimes reset non-Japanese accounts. Didn’t want to build something up to have it drop.
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>>17145865
Sounds like bullshit to me, I run two foreign accounts and they have been reset.
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>>17146804
Haven't been reset I mean
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How do I GM striker?
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>>17144787
you can fast fall with L2 while in the air, if that's the problem you're having
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>>17145380
from release? 3 or 4 months is a good amount of time, yeah. new recycle only units showing up once in a while kinda makes things rough for us free to players, but all i really want is MADrock and i didnt get it
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>>17147261
Don't. I love the suit but unless your team is coordinating 100% it's very hard to use to its full potential. It's basically a hit-and-run ms given its crazy amount of thrust and paper armor.
It seriously needs a buff or at least a dodge roll imo.
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Efreet Kai in the RT, time for me to get the ultimate EXAM MS shit on BD1 and I don't want BD2 or 3. Just dem twin sabers
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>>17147580
Which level?
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>>17147596
only 1 is in RC. they havent released the others.
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How is it that we've had the city map for over a month and STILL retards don't bother to guard the spawn points off to the sides? I'm tired of being the yellow who has to go it alone with a pixy or an Efreet or a Gouf every fucking time because everyone else is running off "FOR GRORRRYYYYYYY!!!"
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>>17147599
Those fuckers. I'll take it anyway.
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>>17147629
I always make it a priority to capture the point nearest to the base round the corner. Other than that, just keep an eye on the map between deaths.
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>>17147599
Oh shit it's a level 2 and I actually have both the lvl2 grenade launcher and swords already. My patience has finally paid off!
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>>17147690
level 2 comes with level 2 swords? i thought you'd have to roll for them
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>>17147695
No, he said he has the 'nade launcher and swords, he just needed the bot.
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>>17147765
oh i'm retarded and can't read apparently. you right.
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So more questions from a newbie:
If I get a low level suit, can I level it up in some way down the line? Or if I have a level 1, does it make the level 2 cheaper in some way?

Can you sell off suits you don’t want? Or is it better to just keep everything all the time?

When I roll for crates with my three coin, is it better to do one or save up for the ten? I know most games are same drop rates either way. And can I just bank coins until something hits he lotto that I want? Or are they reset when the drops reset?

I know leg upgrades are highly recommended early on, but should I spend any DP on suits or just let them come with the drops? I guess this plays with my first, I want to use the Dom, and want to buy the Zaku Sniper when I can, but I also don’t want to buy just a level 1 and be struggling to get the higher level versions later if it is random drops.

Can you squad up? So I have a friend and my brother that may play with me, but I would want to actually play with them and be able to strategize.
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>my team is winning
>enemy set up a bomb
>were all on the other side of the map
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>>17147918
Suits do not level up, but you need the level 1 to unlock level 2, to unluck level 3, etc. in the DP Store. You can get any level of suit from the gacha, or Recycle shop.

You can't sell MS you get, you get Recycle Tickets to use in the aforementioned store.

Typically its better to save for a banner you want, or when they do a step up campaign which is typically the third or fourth banner of the month. Step Ups are typically half cost for 10x rolls, so 15 tokens for a 10 roll instead of 30. Then the next step up is a 30 token roll for a guaranteed 2star drop, and the 3rd roll is a guaranteed 3star drop.

Buy units you want and will enjoy is my advice, but do try and prioritize getting some custom parts. Namely Shooting and Melee programs, they increase your offensive stats.

You can invite friends to Custom Matches, and now Quick Matches. Though in Quick Matches they'll likely end up on the enemy team.
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>Can you sell off suits you don’t want?
I wish
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>take out rocket launcher
>feels like 5 minute
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>>17147965
what did he mean by this?
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>>17147932
Trading extra MS drops would be better since some players can get lucky.
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>2 friendlies at base
>Bomb set to go off in our base
>They fucking sit at the entrance and do nothing
>Base explodes, costing us the match

i'm down from B to C- from shit like this
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>>17148295
They probably couldn't get the enemy pilot flying around in there. They honestly need to clear the base of cargo and make it less easier to hide, especially given how clunky the pilot controls are.

Also friendly reminder that the assault rifle always hits the mark if you treat it like it were semi-auto. Once you hold down the trigger, accuracy goes out the window.
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>>17147921
HAHAHA. IT WAS ME WHO SET UP THAT BOMB. ENJOY HAVING VICTORY TORN CRUELLY FROM YOUR HANDS AT THE LAST MINUTE.
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>>17148286
Some have no luck
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>want Alex
>get this longboi instead
>it sucks balls
>still kind of fun though
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>>17148321
Just get out and go in there and shoot them? If it comes down to pilot V Pilot I have not lost a single match up. Nobody expects you to fight back or shoot at them and so they don’t know how to handle it.
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>>17148325
fuck you, FUCK YOU
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>be Canada
>lose game
>praise enemy team
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>>17148321
if your mobile suit has a hand grenade use it, it always works.
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>pixe in recycle shop just started so no tickets
Nooo
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>>17148772
Not if they're hiding behind that crate on the back right of the cargo bay.
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>>17148813
go to the right side of the plane and use it
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>>17148636
I'd trade you a level 3 gundam beam rifle for it
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>>17148820
you serious? Didn't know explosion could clip.
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>>17148830
the hand grenades take out a big area
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Imagine if there was a turbo mode where every ms had double the speed and thrust, and it was called Red Comet Special.
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>>17148820
Are there any other tips that are not obvious to the average player that I should know of?
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>>17147646
I do too and yet I always seem to get paired with the mouthbreathers who just charge in and attack the first guy they see. Meanwhile I'm getting jumped because I'm all by myself and still trying to take Point A or B.
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>>17148863
tips..... when you done two beam saber attacks do a small boost back then attack again you can get 2 more hits in. aim for the feet.

and the Zaku can is the best
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>>17148885
also, act like your leg is broken, they always fall for it
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>>17148863
Keep track if your target has rolled, or counter tackled. Since that's a time frame for attacking and meleeing without being countered.

Shields typically cover the body when walking backwards.
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>>17148906
this, also aim in front of your target.
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>>17148847
>Char colors BD2/3 in space in Red Comet Special mode with EXAM active
Newtypes can't stop me now
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>>17148863
Spam "Bunch up" in game chat. Your team will be retarded 90% of the time and every so often it'll actually remind some of them they have to stick together if they don't want to give the opposing team free kills.
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The best thing about ACE matches is that it complete invalidates base bombing as a strategy, since killing an ACE provides far more points
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>>17149163
meanwhile the worst part about ACE is the ace not realizing they're an ACE, and walking into gangbangs.
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>>17148005
I'm still wondering
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>>17148820
>>17148885
>>17148890
>>17148906
>>17148922
>>17149036
These are all valid tips and I didn't know about (most of) them.
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>>17148906
>Keep track if your target has rolled
Doubly so if your target is an Alex, a Hygogg, or a BD3 in EXAM mode. Or anything else that has Emergency Evasion Lv. 2. I... think BD2 has that in EXAM mode as well; I don't have one myself, so I can't tell you for sure.

>>17149163
>The best thing about ACE matches is that it complete invalidates base bombing as a strategy
I mean, you can't bomb bases or call down airstrikes in Ace Matches to begin with, anyway.
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>>17149709
Yeah, both BD2 and BD3 gain Evasion lvl2 upon activating EXAM.
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>>17148863
Balancer lets you boost into a counter
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If you think individual score is indicative to how much you actually contributed, you're wrong.
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>>17150558
ok
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>>17150558
>t. never gets top score
it's ok if you're bad, you're not the only one in this game's community, far from it
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>yesterday Hygogg
>today Act Zaku
I just want an Alex...
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I tried transferring my account to a new PS4 and re downloading but my English account are locked out why
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>Random Ground Map
>Consistently get Tropical Desert
It's like they know people hate that map
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>>17150798
>Act Zaku
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>>17148863
Never chase alone. No matter what. They’ll lead you in to a trap. This game is a 2 is 1, 1 is none game.
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How do I harness the raw ability of the gelgoog?
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>>17151474
Do beam rifle things
Is it early or mass production? If early, I'd say hit enemies with a fully charged beam shot, go for the melee if you're close enough, or plink at em with the MMP80 if not
Mass pro you pretty much do the same thing except with your grenades
Personally, I find the googs a lot more fun to play than my other suits, even if they aren't statistically the greatest
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>>17148863
Double tapping X lets you dodge roll as a pilot and they too also get I-frames and can spam it infinitely. this makes it even fucking harder to kill pilots because if they get lucky they will I-frame through a grenade, you may see some people already do this to cap a point in a dangerous area and it will work a bunch of times.
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>>17151501
I have all three gelgoogs and I’m trying to be patient with them. I’m normally better with literally anything else. I think I just need to keep my distance and wait for openings with the beam rifle. Still tinkering the melee on it.
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>>17151474
If you're playing the one with the shield on its back use the Beam rifle and help support your team but make sure the other blue's on your team are Bazooka suits because you won't be able to really push otherwise.

If you're playing the early prod then use bazooka and take advantage of your large health and amazing shield for good survival ability on the front lines.
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>>17151533
There's four Gelgoogs

>Early Type (Commander)
>Gelgoog (Mass Production type)
>High Mobility
>Cannon

I sure hope the next Gelgoog is a Raid so you can finally have a balanced all Gelgoog team
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>>17151588
>have a balanced all Gelgoog team
>implying anyone but weirdos like me want to play gelgoogs
Gundam allure is too strong for the mainstream audience
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Act kind of blows with the MG
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>>17151642
git gud scrub, Act's MG is great.
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>>17151689
It's pretty damn bad, does barely 200 damage per shot, you're foolin yourself
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>Hygogg
>big missile
>piece of shit always hits the wall right next to you
stupid japs couldn't have coded the thing to fire closer to the crosshair?
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>>17151694
Its good, at lvl 1 it does roughly the same amount of damage per shot as the lvl 4 MMP-80 + more ammo and other shit and the act zaku itself moves really fast not to mention a respectable amount of shooting correction.
If you're comparing it to a bazooka then you're an idiot because you pick your weapons based on your role in battle.
Choosing the MG when the rest of your blues have MG is suicide and you only really wanna be using an MG or BR if you have some frontline bazooka units on your team already.
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>>17151723
>Choosing the MG when the rest of your blues have MG is suicide
How are you supposed to tell your teammates are choosing different weapons?
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>>17151603
It's strange but I don't see any way in which the RX-78 is better than the Gelgoog. At least the Early type.
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>>17151726
You cant in pubs, however with some suits player are 99% guaranteed to be using bazooka for example ez8 and GM command and suits with high melee correction.
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>>17151736
That's dumb, the Act MG is vastly outperformed by almost every suit of the same cost. If you're reduced to a guessing game based on what suits your teammates may be playing, you're just asking to lose.
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>>17151732
They're about even.
Gundam is less likely to its legs destroyed because its smaller, has better melee moveset and when opting for BR they can choose to use the BR+GN which is almost a direct upgrade and gives you less of a supporting role as a BR user than the early gelgoog with the BR would and gives you better self defence as a BR user.
The early gelgoog however does have that great shield and more health and more damage in general and has the neat backup MG which is nice after the buff.

>>17151752
The MG is the best of its kind barring cold districts, the point is you should only play the Act Zaku with an MG in space or on earth when you have 2 or 3 bazooka blues on your team. MG's are not bad its just they serve a different role and with those 2-3 bazooka blues there to help push then you get more and more opportunities to harass people with your MG.

Say its 6v6 350 cost and your team so far is:
ez8
2xGM command
Guncannon
Efreet kai
Then its fine for you to play with an MG and maybe even more beneficial than using a Bazooka.
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>>17151723
>Choosing the MG when the rest of your blues have MG is suicide

Man, you missed prepatch. Friendly MG fire would stack, so you could keep a suit locked down in stagger with 2 machine guns. That went away a little before the bazooka splash nerf. Unfortunate.
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>>17151778
I've been playing on release and yea I remember it, playing in space where there's almost no cover to hide behind in dark space made tons of encounters into that one scene from robocop.
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>>17151786
I miss it, man.

I guess in retrospect that it would be fucking retarded with Cold Type gun at the same time or Alex stacks.
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>>17151732
The weak point of all Gelgoogs is they're relatively large targets, they got fat legs, and a wide frame. Not Hygogg or Dom levels. Gundam is more melee oriented, along with some good weapon selections like Beam Rifle w/SN, its also got the Hyper Hammer which is either stupid, or stupid broken.
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>>17151799
>MFW the ace desserts.

Come the fuck on! If you're gonna ragequit fine, but don't do it when you're the fucking ace even if dumbass teammates are stealing your kills!
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>>17151826
>getting mad about "kill stealing"
You're playing the game wrong and are everything wrong with the playerbase.
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>>17151718
I wasted so many shots with the Hygogg cause of this shit
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>>17151839
not him, but I don't think being worried about kill stealing from Aces is the WORST thing about the playerbase


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I think MG's need to be given a massive buff, with the tradeoff being that they can't stagger. As is, zooks are still the patrician choice.
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>>17151882
But they're fine the way they are.
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>>17151882
Quit standing in the open and making yourself predictable.
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Anyone who thinks MGs are bad need to git gud.
Anyone who thinks bazookas are significantly better than MGs only think so because they never played against anyone who was actually gud
MGs > zooks. No contest.
These are indisputable, objective facts.
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>>17151882
I agree, but some MG's are far better than others
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>>17151906
They're fine if your enemy is dumb, or if you want to stack damage to their legs while someone else is meleeing them while they're down. Otherwise it's very easy to avoid mg's, as well as punish their users.
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>>17151963
Personally I prefer MG’s because I can constantly hit and not worry about missing. Most people who use Bazookas are easy to predict and so you know when to dodge and you can just keep hitting. If I use MG’s I rarely go in for melee as more so just being support and a nuisance to the other team.
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Just downloaded the game.
The Lv. 6 Gm Cannon is fun.
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>>17151839
Read my fucking post you dumb shit. I'm mad about the ace ragequitting and dooming the team to lose because he can't keep himself from getting swarmed.
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so we can all agree the Bazooka meta is obnoxious as all hell right, what would be the best way to get rid of it?

personally I think they need to get rid of Stun on Bazookas and other explosives(at least on the ones that Blues can use), or at the very least make it so one's ability to either dodge roll or charge is unaffected by being stunned, this latter change would make the "Stun then Melee" tactic a lot less viable, which is definitely a good thing
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>>17152176
git gud, "bazooka meta" is just noobs thinking they're good because they're playing against other noobs who don't know how to dodge or how weapon cooldown works.
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>>17152176
lower the splash radius, but increase their velocity as well
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>>17152240
I like this idea
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>>17152141
Same. I painted mime in white dingo colours, gave it a lvl6 punch and lvl5 beam gun.
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>>17152240
Again? At some point it will stop being an explosive and start being a beamrifle
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I think the ground type beam rifle needs another buff to balance out it's weak damage
GM Sniper Custom needs a health nerf
GM Sniper II needs a beam rifle instead of shit beam gun
Beam Gun needs to be buffed
GM Striker needs another health buff, and increased ballistic resistance
Feddie Missile Launcher needs to fire multiple missiles like the Simplified Missile Launcher
Give us hangars or fix Zaku II slots so you're not stuck with 7/14/4 slots
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>>17151938
I agree with MG's not being bad but you cant say MG's are better than Bazooka's that's just objectively wrong due to how important role and team composition is.
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>>17152567
>GM Sniper Custom needs a health nerf
what, why?
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>>17152567
>GM sniper custom needs a health nerf, No.
>GM sniper 2 needs a beam rifle instead of shit beam gun, No.
>Beam gun needs to be buffed, Maybe.
>GM striker needs another health buff, and increased ballistic resistance, No.
>Feddie missile launcher needs to fire multiple missiles like the Simplified Missile Launcher, FUCK NO.
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>>17152176
>personally I think they need to get rid of Stun on Bazookas
And then you never see them again because without the ability to stagger anyone, you'll be completely at the mercy of MGs that out-dps you without horrendous reload times.
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>>17152567
GM striker just needs dodge roll by default instead of needing to lose it's shield to get it.
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>>17152176
Bazooka meta isn't the problem, it's retards rushing in trying to do damage and getting picked off one by one instead of guarding points and keeping close to base.
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>>17153054
>And then you never see them again because without the ability to stagger anyone, you'll be completely at the mercy of MGs that out-dps you without horrendous reload times.
to compensate for the loss of stun, I'm thinking Bazookas would get a massive boost to their damage, so if a level one version originally dealt 1500 damage, the new version would deal 2000 or maybe even 2500

also I'm only talking about full stuns being removed, I'm fine with them causing stagger like the more powerful beam rifles do

of course this wouldn't be as necessary if they changed it so you could dodge roll or charge while stunned, and/or changed it so that the invincibility begins the moment you get knocked down and not the moment you start getting up(the way it currently works makes it too easy to get ganged up on)

besides the only other real solution to the issue of Bazooka Meta would be to nerf melee and I doubt anyone wants that

>>17153080
player behavior can't really be fixed(especially in a game without VOIP), annoying gameplay loops can however
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>>17151839
To be fair, taking kills from aces genuinely costs games since aces get a fat point multiplier for kills
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>>17153078
Wait the gm striker gets a dodge roll once it loses its shield? When did this happen?
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>>17153122
> full stuns being removed, I'm fine with them causing stagger like the more powerful beam rifles do
What the fuck are you on about, its the same exact stagger.
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>>17153122
Why would you remove stuns, god people are so fucking retarded with this whole "bazooka meta" shit they complain about.
Its not a bazooka meta its just people misunderstand the fucking role teams have in this game in regards to their team composition, your team NEEDS 2 to 3 bazooka units in order to push and control the field because bazookas can be a threat to you even when behind cover and knocking someone down with a bazooka and down melee gives you a numbers advantage temporarily.
There is nothing wrong with this at all because the game would be a steaming pile of shit if everyone were using MGs and BRs and would never leave cover, part of the reason why space is dominated by MG's is because there is less cover and you can attack people from above and below so you can threaten people behind cover with team positioning.
Complaining about bazooka stun is like complaining that tanks exist in Overwatch, MG's and BR's for blue units are not worse than Bazookas they just give you a different role in battle but your team will still require some bazooka units.
The devs know what they are doing for the most part and this "meta" you fags complain about has been in since the first game, don't complain about this shit when you clearly don't fucking understand the game.
You don't see any JP players fucking complain about this shit because they already know the game was designed to be played like this.
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>>17153171
I agree with your points, but every jpn player I've played with had been shite at the game, and so I take their opinions to be worthless.
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>>17153171
I mean with most room sizes, 2-3 blues is probably all you could field. You might as well have all blue players run bazookas.
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>>17153148
maybe it's just me but the stagger beam rifles cause feels like it lasts a lot less longer than what bazookas cause

>>17153171
really when it comes down to it, my biggest issue with Bazooka meta is it's just not fun at all to play against, and it's honestly not that fun to play as either for most suits

and it's funny you bring up Space, cause Bazookas are a lot more fair there than they are on the ground

>>17153230
>I mean with most room sizes, 2-3 blues is probably all you could field. You might as well have all blue players run bazookas.
see that is exactly my problem with Bazooka meta, it massively reduces team variability, especially at the 350 to 450 cost ranges where much of the time people only use a couple types of GM or Gundam

not to mention it often gets even less varied since a lot of the more popular Red and Yellow suits at that range can use Bazookas too
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>>17153287
Its just you then because a stun from a beam rifle, bazooka, stun build up, melee hit, and counter tackle are the same exact animations.
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>>17153211
Majority of players are japanese so ofcourse you think that when there's probably like a few hundred players from the west playing but even they are just as garbage you don't see them as much but just take a few glimpses into some discord servers or on the reddit.

>>17153230
Depends on team composition but this is mainly why I say only use an MG or BR when you have 2-3 blues with bazooka already, you could have another bazooka I guess but having the MG or BR helps in the long term of the match and in niche areas of the map, using an MG against a red is brutal because of the type advantage damage bonuses too.
I think the main thing that needs to be buffed are these suits like ground GM that have these high shooting correction but awful melee and are forced to be played with MG and BR but have nothing else to show for it with no gimmicks or self defense, I think these units should be given the MG+GN or buff them in some other way.
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>>17153305
I don't know what you're talking about. My ground gm absolutely bodies gm command players at 250. Damn thing hits like a brick
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>>17153305
If that is really the case, then the japs I get teamed with need to fix their sleep schedules as I generally only play between 4-6pm EST. Maybe the reason they're so terrible is because their circadian rhythm is fucked.
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>>17153323
I have a Ground GM at 300, and GM Commands always rape my ass there. Meanwhile, I rape Ground GMs in my GM command in 350 rooms.
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>>17153399
They probably have better slots at that cost. All I know is that without fail, my ground gm seems to be able to take down commands to at least half health before having to break off.
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>>17153432
I do know that the Ground GM is better in terms of health and survival, having more health and better ballistic resistence. Do you use the MG or Bazooka?
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>>17153478
Bazooka, in every single match.
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>>17153502
Same.
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>>17153510
I mean, I have alot of friends who swear that it's a great MG suit, but at that point you might as well run your Zaku II Kai (or Zaku II S if the gacha god has smiled upon you like he did me)
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>>17153547
Is the Zaku 2 S that good?
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>>17153557
Not really. It's handles like a Zaku II Kai with less health and more speed. It's just that it feels, uh, stylish. Plus, you could use the LV1 version at 200 cost rooms.
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>>17153478
>>17153502
Ground GM at early levels is a bazooka suit but then its forced to play MG at higher levels because its ill fit with how slow it is and its low defenses and mediocre health and poor shield and has to take advantage of now being able to use better more damage MG.
Originally Ground GM had high damage in low cost matches due to the stronger beam saber, stronger zook and high shooting correction compared to other suits with its weakness being low health and defense but now that Powered GM and its zook is available for DP every GM kai is rocking it and its just overall much safer to play by being so much more well rounded.

>>17153547
Its only an MG suit at higher costs which is why its lacking and like I said its now become weaker in lower costs thanks to new things becoming available at lower costs.

>>17153557
Zaku II S 200 cost is great and on par with GM kai, the lvl 2 and 3 are pretty weak because its gimmick at 200 cost is the high damaging grenades and exclusive access to MG+GN in the blue 200 cost range as well as balancer, dodge roll and MA.
It becomes a decent suit again at lvl 4 where it receives a large jump in health when compared to the lvl 3 which allows its use of MA to be more effective, its still has pretty low attack stats so its a suit you play for survival and knocking opponents down rather than doing lots of damage.
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>mfw we're about to win and some retard that's near death pulls a Leeroy into enemy camp

On the plus side I got top scores and beat my rival. And managed to pull an Act Zaku after a few drops. Overall today was a good day.

Still wish the only space matches I can get into aren't draw games. I really want to play with my FAG.
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One of these days, I'm gonna take this baby out for a spin and hopefully not bring in an L for my team
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rolled a High Mobility Zaku (Late Type)

The 11-second boost from its thrusters feels fucking incredible. Is there any specific equipment I should slap on it or is it better to stick to the MG+GN?
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>>17154041
I recently tried out the level 2, and going from having no good 400 Raids to one of the better ones if amazing. Especially compared to BD1, you can see how crap the BD1 is.

People just run from you
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I made it to B+ in 2 weeks doing only 3 matches a day. Is this the big league or is the game always unga bunga beam saber?
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>>17154041
It's Spacenoid, so you've already lost.
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>>17154050
The Simplified Meme Launcher is the meta weapon right now for the High Mobility Types, but I like the MMP-78 GN

>>17154069
You're only in the big leagues when you're in A Rank.
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>>17154050
Use the Simplified launcher, in space maybe use the MG.
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>>17154041
Thanks doc
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>>17154092
>>17154097
kind of what I expected honestly

Guess I'll stick to the MG then, I really dislike using bazookas as they feel unfun to use
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>>17154148
the coffin is actually pretty fun to use compared to a regular zook in my opinion
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>>17154215
I like 4toob more than the regular launcher as well. It takes a little more thinking as the rockets are slower, but boy when you land all 4 shots and then back swing into grenade
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>>17144866
>Playing with them is like playing with babies.
I mean...you probably ARE. It's originally a Japanese game for the Japanese market; you're going to get adults alongside a fair amount of nerdy /m/-liking kids still in elementary to high school and just a lot of plain casuals.

We in the Western side of the game aren't really like that. We're all predominantly adults who are nerdy enough to play a foreign game because we like the source franchise so much. That's not to say we're better in any way, but more that the Japanese population of the game dilutes their own average skill levels.
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>450 Earth
>Zudah on my team
Keep your trash off my team especially ASR shit
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>>17154581
Anytime I see someone in a guntank, this is usually how I feel.
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>>17154581
Eh. Sometimes they're really good, and you have all the yellows on the enemy team getting legged all day erry day.

>>17154981
The only viable "tank" ms is the Xamel. Everything else is dead weight.
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please dont bully the guntank, they can still stun though maneuver armor at least.
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>>17155030
>mfw enemy has two xamels ripe for bullying from afar
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>Spend all game autistically bullying a juaggu with my efreet kai because i'm jealous
I just want to play my cute elephant godamnit
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>>17155280
>tfw I'm a Pixie in the city map and Xamels are out and about
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Decals and patterns are going to be added next update
https://bo2.ggame.jp/jp/info/?p=6540
However, it seems like you'll have to buy them/roll for them with recycle tickets.
Also certain MS will have a special toggle that adds/removes a feature, e.g. added a commander horn to a Zaku Kai, or removing the Zudah's.
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>>17155336
FINALLY
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yes YES
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>>17155336
>using tickets for anything but 3* suits

Nah
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>>17155394
So I can remove the horn on the Zaku IIS and pretend I'm just a vanilla Zaku II?
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>>17155694
I don't think so, cause that would ruin its sillouette. I think taking a putting horns on more recognizable stuff, like taking the horn off of the Desert Zaku, Zaku cannon, Zaku 2 HM, and putting them on stuff like the Zaku Tank, Ground Zaku 2 HM, Zaku 2 kai etc.
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>>17155714
I really hope the doms will be able to have their command antennae, I don't think any suit looks as good with one as they do. Probably won't though
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>>17155394
lol wtf
new announcement or something?
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>>17156073
oh shit, oh holy shit
https://bo2.ggame.jp/jp/info/?p=6540
stencils, AND camo, no wonder it took so long
I actually had a dream they finally added stencils last night, I should go buy some lottery tickets
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I have the Zaku HM late type, I fucking love this thing.

what color should I paint it?
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>>17156080
Got to wonder what kind of customization options EFSF MS will have given the whole organization is a lot more standardized. All anyone seems to be able to say is GM Head Ground Gundam.
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>>17156099
do you even have to ask? RED!
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>>17156103
>GM Head Ground Gundam
funny, that's what I thought before even reading your post, there really isn't that many
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>>17156099
Crimson Lightning
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I don't think I'll ever understand why people want AU shit in this game. It's like entering a KFC and demanding that they serve you, say, some Fritos burritos, when there's a perfectly serviceable KFC/Taco Bell/Pizza Hut Express a few blocks down.
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>>17156210
What AU shit are you talking about? Who said anything about AU stuff?
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>>17156210
There hasn't been a single post about anyone wanting AU suits in this game since the thing came out anon, what are you talking about?
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>>17156214
>>17156224
I mean when I find "discussions" about this game elsewhere on the Interbackofatruck, I see people clamoring for SEED or 00 shit in this game. Y'know, a game with two entries that feature UC suits and ONLY UC suits?
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>>17156103
The page says it's limited to Zeon suits for now. It's probably meant for suits that have a commander antenna in certain appearances but don't have a specific commander variant in the game.
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>>17156210
The mixed U BO game tanked right?
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>>17156259
I mean, it went on for three whole years.
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>>17156259
It's getting shut down because Bandit Scamco can't get any more revenue out of it and probably wants the monkeys at BB Studio to put out a New and Improved™ version, much like with GBO 1 getting shut down.
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>>17156273
Couldn't have been bad if you could play as a flag.
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>>17156099
pink, it will go faster
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>>17156293
>Bandit Scamco
I'm usin this
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>Pull an Efreet Kai from a random crate drop
>Already have BD3

O-Okay. Thanks GBO2...
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>>17156601
with love, from /@/
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>team being shitters as usual in 250 ground, port base
>bullying the enemy Zudah in mine isn't making up for their general shittery
>go to plant the bomb, parking my suit behind the medea
>start planting, but someone foresaw me being there and stabs me in the back
>he starts stealing my suit
>able to spawn in time
>doesn't see me fly back into the Medea
>successfully plant the bomb
>enemy team in pant shitting mode
>other guy gets out of my suit, another one shoots it down, he starts defusing
>bazooka his ass
>guy who blew up my zudah hops out and frantically attempts to defuse the bomb as it's within 15 seconds of detonating
>shank the cunt
>attempt to steal his GM command
>explosion of the Medea knocks me down
>he hops in and runs back to take down my shitter teammates who've been dying the whole time
>enemy Zudah (with very low health) starts running toward the front
>board the Wappa
>successfully destroy the wounded Zudah in my Wappa
>miraculously we win
>by 200 points
>enemy Zudah didn't score a single point
the shit I put up with
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>>17156781
Let me guess, you were both using ASR? ASR scum deserve to suffer for using a meme weapon
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Gacha is changing tomorrow right?
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>>17156872
Tomorrow around 9pm PST, yes. Hoping for the Efreet in the dp shop personally
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>>17156840
Yep, however I don't suck with it, and it's the best option for rivaling most yellows of the same cost. Much better than the MG or zooka, dunno what your deal is with it when it's much more viable than any other Raid suit of the same cost.
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>>17156840
Somebody break your legs mate?
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>>17156887
>>17156931
GM Light Armor is unironically better at 300, 350 and 400 there are definitely better options. Yeah the ASR has range, but it doesn't have DPS and DPS wins. Enjoy waiting on a 5 minute reload on your primary weapon.
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>>17156944
On paper yes, but sometimes you need that distance when the yellows are surrounded by several zooka GM Commands, and even then, leveled ASR's pack enough of a punch to have blues back off when you hit them.
Plus you have the sturm faust for when you're reloading anyways, and the reloads are no longer than any other sniper suit's, especially with fast reloading parts.
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>>17156931
they really need to add that weapon to the game
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>>17156964
In practice the GM Light Armor is better at 300 than the Zudah, in practice melee is a better way to deal with GPs than the ASR.

The ASR reload is twice as long as the GM Sniper II's rifle, WR Gundam's 180mm, and the Magella Cannon.
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>>17156978
>In practice
In practice my anecdotal evidence is more substantial than yours, try getting within melee distance of a team of 5 enemy zaku cannons, see where that gets you
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>>17156988
Man, I remember winning a Port match via airstrike because the enemy Zaku Sniper was too dumb to get off the HLV.
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>>17156988
I always forget that spot exists
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>>17156988
Nice ideal setup to prove your weapon isn't shit, but there's more targets than your 3 shot weapon can handle.

There's a reason why all the top tier Raids (for ground combat) are all melee oriented, they're more deadly than a weapon that can only fire once a minute.
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>>17157024
>Nice ideal setup to prove your weapon isn't shit
Yes, that is my argument, that the ASR is better than melee in certain circumstances, and shouldn't be written off completely because some autist got his feelings hurt by it.
Why are you so hostile about a video game?
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>>17157046
Its a situation you might encounter once out of 150 matches

Why try and defuse the situation by saying "its just a game" why defend it so vehemently from someone so unhinged, its just a game dude lol chill
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>>17157051
Damn you're dense, now everyone will know the fool behind the endless shitposting about ASRs ITT
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It's just a fucking gun, who cares?
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>>17156944
Good thing he said 250 then?
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>>17156103
GM head Ground Gundam was an actual playable unit in GBO1 so you should be expecting that to be added eventually rather than as a cosmetic change.
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>>17156887
>>17156944
>>17156964
>>17156978
>>17156988
>>17157024
>>17157046
ASR Zudah is only slightly valuable in space, like people have said the GM LA is pretty much the only red worth using for 100-300 costs.

ASR Zudah DPS is really slow, a second yellow is probably more valuable than the Zudah ASR because the large amount of blues and its neutral damage to other yellows and yellows should be counter sniping when they can, with a red like GM LA going behind enemy lines can force opponents team to scramble to save their yellow giving your blues and yellows better opportunity to push.
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If you save up to 30 lotto coins is it true you get a confirmed 3 star suit/item drop? Or is that only if it is an available promo? How often do those come around?
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>>17157204
GM Light Armor is better at 250 too

>>17157445
That's a step up banner, the first step is 15 tokens for 10, second step is 30 for 10 and a guaranteed 2star Mobile Suit, third step up is 30 for 10 and a guaranteed 3star Mobile Suit.

They're usually the third banner of a month, though we had two back to back step up banners for Christmas and New Years
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>>17157445
Generally every month there's 1 banner (so every 4 weeks or so) that has a "step up" bonus.
The bonus is usually as follows
First 10 roll = 50% off (its 15 tokens instead of 30)
Second 10 roll = 1.5x chance of earning 2* MS or weapons
Third 10 roll = Guaranteed 3* MS.

You basically need at least 75 tokens for the guaranteed 3* MS and it could be a dupe.

If you are new to the game I recommend saving up for it and always making sure you have at least 15 tokens at any point. for that cheaper 10 roll.
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>>17148636
IT TAKES GUTS AND SKILL, KID, its fun once You master it.
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>>17156099
Uma Lightning custom colors.
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Autocannons, Rollout.
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>>17156706
>BD3 is a blue
>Efreet Kai is a red

What did he mean by this
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I literally can't get my second win for this mission. I've played like two dozen games now, stop giving me teammates that just run in solo and die over and over
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>>17157462
Ah, I gotcha. So you need 15 for the first tier, 30 for the second and another 30 for the third level. I am a new player, it is hard not to want to try and roll for a Gyan, Xamel, or Dom Barrage. But I get how these games typically work. I will just stick to the slow grind then and keep an eye open for at the very least the 50% off. Do we have a good wiki that has charts and stuff for pull rates or expected rates?
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>>17157544
It means I'm double the EXAM menace, and I really didn't actually want the Efreet.

BD2 is my preferred EXAM unit
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>>17157598
For what its worth you can buy the Gyan from the DP Store, you just need to rank up.
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>>17157605
Yeah, thats what I am working towards. But I keep buying the upgrade customization parts since it seems those can just go on all MS and seem to be a good investment. I got lucky with my free lotto and was given a level 5 Garma Zaku, it has carried me pretty well but wanted some variety.
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Could we ever get zeta units would they even allow transformation
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>>17157608
I'd hope so, maybe you could press the touchpad ala exam to transform and then it'd eat boost while transformed ala MSGO?
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>>17157605
Is the Gyan any good? I've only fought alongside it once or twice, but it didn't seem that hot to me.

>>17157608
The GM III was in the beta
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>>17157598
The game is pretty forgiving for new players, they just need to understand that when starting they gotta stick to low cost matches, your main goal is to get the hyper bazooka and the Zaku bazooka because many suits use them, getting a 3* usually will give you a viable suit for use in unlimited cost (because they're usually high cost suits).
After getting the Zook's aim to find your main suits for every 100 or so cost bracket and eventually you will have enough suits to do that at which point your focus becomes to spend your DP on custom parts and weapons to min max your main suits for the cost you play them at.

The rates are pretty generous, just don't expect to get what you want because you'll probably get something good but not something you personally want until they add it to the DP store.
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>>17157618
New anon here, I have heard it is pretty good for just melee, however I am just a fan of the design, even if it is hot trash I will find whatever means to justify it. But hopefully other anon's can give a rundown of the usability of it.
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>>17157625
It is very difficult suit to play and that's a big deal in this game because there is very little skill can do in this game you really have to have a team that works together and can communicate in some way or hope the other team screws up.
Every good suit in this game you can instantly tell why they are good.
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>>17157644
Oh, I would just want to collect it as a Zeon suit. I'm down to learn the ins and outs of strategy. I've been trying to watch players streams and learn more where I can. I quite like the suggestions I have seen on here about the game and have taken it to heart. Wouldn't want to let anyone down.
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>not being a waddlechad
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>>17157664
In that case you will get it eventually, but I would focus on getting it later because its worth a hefty sum for a new player that would be better put towards buying bazookas and the lvl 3 200 cost suits/gm kai (don't buy gm kai btw because next week everyone is being given a free gm kai and a special bazooka that only it and powered GM can use + 10k DP so that will be your main blue suit for 200 cost)
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>>17157679
There's only one acceptable color scheme for the Acguy.
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>>17157700
thanks doc
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>>17157489
Truly, you my nigga.
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>>17157700
>>17157679
>Not the 7-11 Custom Acguy
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>>17157686
What's this about the free jim kai/zook/DP?
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>>17158101
New Gundam game released, everyone's getting a gift to celebrate.



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