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Seriously what the FUCK am I watching? I loved the original series and DYRL but what is this shit? I'm 3 episodes in, does it get better or should I drop it?
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It does get better, keep going!
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>>17129915
Why did you skip Macross II and Macross Plus?
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>>17129915
I really like M7... but it quite literally takes 25 episodes before anything actually really kicks in.
but yeah, it's never a fast burn, and it starts off a bit slow and weird even taking that into consideration

mylene x gamlin otp
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7 is the best Macross.
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Does Basara have autism?
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>>17129945
I second everything this anon said, espevially the spoiler
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>>17129938
Oh I forgot to say I also watched "plus" and it was AWESOME.
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>>17130026
Severe Song Autism
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>>17129915
Did you listen to his song yet OP? If not I suggest that you should.
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So how was your Saturday Night, /m/?
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>>17130172
This seems like it might be a joke, but it really is key to understanding Basara. Dude is terrible at expressing himself in non-musical ways.
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Don’t think of it as Macross, but rather a SoL set in Macross, you’ll enjoy it a lot more
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Keep watching.
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LISTEN

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HIS

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>>17130689
>BUUUUUUURP
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>>17129915
>does it get better
It does, but what you already saw is what it is, learn to like it or drop it.
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>>17129915
>I'm 3 episodes in, does it get better or should I drop it?

It does, but it takes almost 30 of the series' 49 episodes.

The first half of the series is very procedural, and so it gets very boring sometimes. It's good for the character development, but that could be done in 10 episodes without losing that much.

But then it gets really good in the second half
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All those early episodes of 7 are worth it for Gamlin alone. What an absolute lad.
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>>17129915
Unless you're fine with a whole series of "Basara defeats the enemy with the power of autism"... I mean, "music", drop it.
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>>17131260
I don't understand what it is with people and Gamlin. He is a literal beta cuck that has almost zero plot relevance
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>>17129915
>I'm 3 episodes in
Anon, the next 20 episodes are going to be literally the exact same plot with the exact same stock footage.
Kawamori probably spent all of the budget on cocaine because there's maybe 2 hours of animation without the stock footage.
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>>17129915
>does it get better
Oh you poor soul.
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>>17131338
Honestly, I thought at first that Gamlin was just a dude that got mad at Basara, but he turns into a pretty alright character after 10 or so episodes. I dunno why Kawamori even wanted to keep Mylene's romance a love triangle until the end, since Basara has literally zero interest in her, and she likes Gamlin a lot.
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Well, to be honest with you. I only watched it to the end because I knew it got better.
However, for 23~24 episodes, every single episode has the same formula:
>battle happens
>Basara sings
>song does jack shit against enemies
>people yell at Basara
When Basara's song actually manages to do something to the enemies, it's actually the show's turning point, because you realize Basara was actually right, and from the on Basara & friends will be much more reliable instead of just being annoyances. There are some very hype scenes during episodes 25~30, specifically in episodes 27 and 28. They spend so long with ineffectual songs that it's awesome when they actually work.
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>>17131941
I always thought the same thing. Basara sees Mylene as a friend, but he's clearly not into her. The way I saw it was that Basara was the protagonist for the musical side of things, but Gamlin was the protagonist for the mech side of things.
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>>17131947
>Basara was actually right
Not really. He just wanted to communicate with his songs even if that meant putting everyone at risk (more like he didn't give a shit about anything else, actually), it's not only until they analize and "weaponize" his voice with the power of science (you know, something that Basara was agaisnt) that the anima spiritia bullshit turns really effective in battle and it's not only a way to make a retarded alien girl moan.

>>17131254
>But then it gets really good in the second half
When some of the worst 90's villains ever appear? Not really. Gigil was a decent enough character and had a pair of really good escenes at the end, but the rest of the protodevlin were uncharismatic garbage at best and absolutely annoying at worst (like the feathered guy).

I was expecting 7 to be my favorite Macross show for what I've had heard about it but it was a huge disappointment.
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I don't know why but the scene that always comes to mind first when I think of 7 is the one where Chiba straps Gamlin to a chair and makes him listen to Fire Bomber songs and he starts screaming like he's legit being tortured
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>>17131998
>Gigil was a decent enough character and had a pair of really good escenes at the end, but the rest of the protodevlin were uncharismatic garbage at best and absolutely annoying at worst (like the feathered guy).

Gigil only became a good character after he abandons the protodevlin to follow Sivil.

At the beginning where he was just "Teleports from nowhere, attacks, runs from Basara" he was literally the worst character
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>>17129990
True.
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>>17130026

No, just a mega song CHAD
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>>17131948
Mylene is such a turn off for Basara that he lost all interest in Emilia the second he realized she was Mylene's sister.
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Mylene is C U T E
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>>17132054
My only gripe with Gigil was that I'd only ever heard his VA in hentai so hearing him in a non-hentai anime felt super awkward and weird
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>>17133216
You'd think that would make it better. Like, I'm fucking your hotter sister over here, go bother Gamlin now plz.
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>>17135020
I can agree with that.
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Since OP is a faggot, let's talk about why Macross 7 is the best Macross
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYHGDEl-zIc
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>>17136398
>Ray/Veffidas valkyrie kit NEVER EVER EVER
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>>17136478
Custom parts for the '90s VF-17 kit, but good luck finding them
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>>17136509
Just found it Yahoo Auctions, with Sound Booster
12,800JPY
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>>17136533
jesus chirst
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>>17136533
>>17136543 is right. Assuming similar money grubbing, common sense certainly rules out this beauty for me. Damn shame.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAc9X-F_j9U
This was objectively the peak of the franchise
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>>17130689
unironically one of the greatest scenes of all time
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>>17137085
such an incredible moment. 7 has its ups and downs but this was just so great
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>>17137085
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOmwtAXVI00
And this is the most comfy moment
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>>17136398
Excedol is the only good thing out of that shit-fest.
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>>17138868
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WKB1KSMfRo
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The beauty of stock footage
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>>17138868
Old-man Exsedol was a treasure, no doubt
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I'm so glad I was born in a world where Macross 7 exists.
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>>17137103
20:02 to 20:40 for me.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=cyhFuNM6ukU
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>>17129915
>does it get better
Not really. The story is pretty dumb and it drags. The main show is 50 episodes long so the use of stock footage and playing the same parts of the same songs over and over again doesn't help.

However it does have one of the better soundtracks of the Macross shows. Even if you don't think so, the J-Rock is a nice departure from the typical idol pop that you hear in the other shows. It's also nice seeing some returning characters from SDF/DYRL and it kind of helps establish some of the stuff that you'd see later in the franchise. Other than that, it's a typical anime with a mediocre story with very few highs and little pay off for your time.

You COULD watch the compilation film in which the characters from Frontier watch a VHS tape about M7, but it was edited so badly that it's pretty hard to keep track of what's happening. You're actually better off just watching the full show.
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>>17139409
I forgot, did she give out the bucket?
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>>17139436
>I forgot, did she give out the bucket?
She does, in the last episode (in the video at 09:30)

https://youtu.be/af_-ciiPL7I?t=573
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A tip for you, OP: a good yardstick for Macross 7 is its opening. Until better songs than the opening appear, the series kind of drags. Once better songs than the opening appear, it gets pretty good. Additionally, the best song in Macross 7 is the final one from the OVA that concludes the series, and it's one of the best songs/moments in the franchise. It's not Macross Delta; you won't be disappointed if you stick with it.
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I never understand the attitude people come into Macross 7 with. I understand people have different tastes and not everyone will like Macross 7, but always holding on to "a show has to be this or its bad" and never moving an inch on some misconception they set up for themselves... I hate it. I hate it hate it hate it. It's a good show from the get go, it doesn't have bad episodes, it just doesn't appeal to everyone. If you can't have fun with a silly, fun, show then move on to a different Macross. The series as a whole fits into so many genres that you're bound to like one.
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>>17140058
You're being as closed minded as the people you describe if you seriouly think everybody shares your idea of what makes a good episode or a fun show. Finishing 7 was a real chore to me.
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>>17140058
That much stock footage is objectively bad.
It's not even in the realm of opinion anymore. It's a blatant lack of effort.
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>>17140122
Well like I said, Macross 7 is a silly show and not going to appeal to everyone, so it's really just repetition of previous talking points. It's not for you, just like many fans of Gundam series also dislike Gundam ZZ without it being a bad show. I don't believe stating this fact is close minded at all. Or do you want to try and define what is a good and bad show?

That said, I notice poster below you mentioned all the re-used stock footage which is bad... sure? But that by itself doesn't make a show bad, just more budgeted. Moving on from this, Macross 7 does have issues, sure.
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>>17140258
Or alternatively point out the episodes you believe to be really bad and why and we can continue from there.
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>>17140258
Stock footage isn't inherently bad, the trouble with M7's use of it is that it's got quite a repetitive formula, and it keeps it up for a good 30 episodes of it's 49 ep run. When you're seeing the stock footage it's not JUST the footage being repeated, it's the scenario too;
>episodic plot temporarily gets suspended due to Protodevlin attack
>Diamond Force deploys
>Stalemate
>Basara barges in and sings
>Protodevlins run away
>Back to the episodic plot for the coda
It just gets kind of tiring, especially since it's always less interesting than what was going on before the battle broke out, it being told by the exact same images each time is just adding insult to injury
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Which VF would he pilot?
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>>17140016

It may have been delirium after slogging through 50 episodes, but I was hype as fuck when she finally gave him the flowers.
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Dynamite was super fun to watch, I think Basara actually works better away from the rest of Fire Bomber. I could have sat through a full length series of him travelling to different planets, singing to whales and stuff.
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>>17140620
I think most people who get to that point are. It's a good moment.
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>>17142353
Random aliens reacting to Basara's autism was great, but I'm kind of iffy on Macross' setting allowing for much of that
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gamlin more like gayman
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>>17129915
It is a departure from SDF, but it also paves the way for some of the weirdness we got in Zero, Frontier and Delta.

Though nothing in those later entries are as insane as the Protodevlin.
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>>17147510
It's really weird how quickly the shift from SDF to M7 happened. Not including 2: Lovers Again because no one from the main Macross series worked on it so it's not part of the same development of ideas, you go SDF, Plus then 7.
So you start off with traditional dogfights and a low-key cultural exchange storyline, and after 1 TV series, 1 abridged movie of that TV series and 1 OVA you end up with Basara hovering over Gepelnitch, glowing like a fairy and shouting rock lyrics at her while Sybil stands next to him [Autistic Screeching] and shooting lasers from her hands. Its fucking mental.
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>>17147531
>It's really weird how quickly the shift from SDF to M7 happened.

Probably due to Kawamori rise to prominence
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>>17130689
Basara belts out a face melter.
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>>17147531
>you end up with Basara hovering over Gepelnitch, glowing like a fairy and shouting rock lyrics at her while Sybil stands next to him [Autistic Screeching] and shooting lasers from her hands.
I see no problems here
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>>17129915
>go to /m/ to find more mecha anime similar to macross (i love jet mechas in the style of macross frontier and delta)
>some guy ragging on my boi basara

Macross is an adventure but I get it if it's not your thing, I personally prefer frontier because the story is pretty dope

do you guys know any similar anime since I can't really get into the super big gundam style animes
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>>17149534
Try robotech.
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>>17149534
Transformers?
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>>17138919
This is fucking awesome. I'm crying and my sides are killing me.



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