>ZaikfagsI want /pol/ to leave.
>>17123929Deal with it. We're never leaving, we make up 80% of all sales and what we like influences this franchise.
I don't want to rain on this thread, but I don't understand the point of this thread type and have some questions. How's it fun to discuss something when it has no solid material to actually discuss? I understand the appeal is just to jump in and post basically anything, but isn't that just a sort of nebulous cloud of non-statements and non-opinions on material that does not exist and thereby cannot actually maintain a discussion? It's just kept afloat by more random stuff. Furthermore, considering the rampant shitposting allowed by the mere question of "is X /m/", is this thread type really much better?
>>17123939You need imagination.
>>17123939It's interesting to see how lore develops based off of random shit people post beforehand.
>>17123942My question isn't about imagining things, it's about why anyone would want to spend time posting about something that doesn't exist and where basically anything can go. Like, skub posting exists, and you have pro-and-anti-skub posts, and you can come up with literally anything for either side and the other person can do the same. This gives you something to work with, an underlying structure. This has nothing of the sort, which is why I am trying to ask these questions.>>17123945Thanks.
>>17123929He may be space nazi but his mech is cool
Can someone give me a quick rundown on the lore from the last thread?
>>17124670We've had three shows about the same storyline so far, we're currently on the fourth one which is the prequel to the third oneFirst one was about the ultrametal fleet led by the councilor assaulting earthSecond one was about aliens known as coolds led by their queen assaulting earthThird one was about the neo ultrametal army led by Zaik assaulting earthThe one that's airing right now is about a war between Russia and niggers
>>17124688>The one that's airing right now is about a war between Russia and niggersAh yes, the eternal rivalry.
>>17123955The mechanized cyka has charm, damn you.Anything made from ultrametal is soulless.
>>17124704If the Cykas have charm, then why have there 3 model kits of them?
>>17124670We discussed Chronicles of the Unity War,which is an adaptation of a japanese military sci-fi novel about Russia gaining access to ancient alien technology and entering a word war with the guardians of said technology. Mostly we talked about the final battle in there and how Kenneth,which is one of the main characters there tried to betray the Unity,which is how Russia calls itself and got defeated by Jacob-our genuinely autistic,anger issue-riddled protag,and then died in an orbital battle.Also,we started talking about the announced ''Recollections of the Five-Years War" (seriously Ginmori comes up with 10/10 titles I swear),which is about a world only barely similar to ours,with tech at about WW1 level in which the three mega-states finally lose their patience with eachother and embark on a destructive war. We were mostly hyped about the cute main character which is a 6'2 tall blonde genki grill that's a military officer and on which the book focuses heavily,since the first thing they revealed about that anime was a poster of Isteleth(the girl) overlooking an airfield(which I hope implies there's gonna be them sweet air battle scenes which appear in the latter part of the book).
>>17123939It allows anons to test their ideas against other mecha fans,and also allows them to draw inspiration from others' ideas which gets posted here. It's quite a bit of fun if you're somewhat creative.
>>17123945I miss Cloudizer and MLAIOS.
>>17124709Because they realised that the crappy nature of the model kits perfectly emulate the scrappy nature of the cyka itself and any improvements to the engineering would take the model further away from being a proper representation of the source material.
>>17124716By the way, has the new MLAIOS sequel released yet? MLAIOS 36 was absolute kinography and I want to see if they manage to follow up on it in MLAIOS 37
>>17124724Not yet, I'm afraid. One of the lead animators left the project, and the new guy's work clashed to much with the original guy's work, so they had to start from scratch to keep up quality as opposes to QUALITY.
>>17124688They’re sorta tied together, unity is led by a faction that okayed invading Mali
>>17124722Don’t forget that the parts are interchangeable so it allows for custom builds.
>>17123929>>ZaikfagsZaik did nothing wrong, race war NOW,
>>17124855So did they base the flag's design on Zufregatron(the mech)'s head or did they make it's eyes and dumb rebreather thingy resemble the flag?
So did Maios really say that Teigan was a "bootyhole-eatin-ass nigga" or is the subber just taking liberties with the translation? I'm confused.
>>17124941I think it was designed after the Zaik family who saved the people from the great depression.
>>17124941>>17124955Actually, don't all the Zaik mecha have the same flower/eyes?
Just reached episode 17, and what the fuck are the writers thinkingShoh was holding up the entire series in fan popularity polls, what the fuck are they doing killing him off like that?
>>17124963holy shit all of them do, ever then grunt type suits
>>17123929Zaikf feels like a copy of Zanscare than zeon
>>17124947>>17124954Yes and no. There’s not really an English equivalent for what the Japanese said. That was pretty much the best they could do.
>>17123955Is it canon the visors are just hiding monoeyes or is that sidestory manga pulling it out if it's ass.
>>17125038The anime calls the visors "compound eye cameras", which would mean they aren't monoeyes, however we all know how bad the anime dub is so that assessment has to be taken with a grain of salt
>>17123929>I want /pol/ to leave.Still triggered from that Trump tweet? Stay mad, cykacuck
>>17125007I guess it makes sense. It reinforces the idea of the royal family ruling if the symbol is everywhere. The faceplate remains but head and body designs differ
>>17125136you can somewhat see it on the pilot's chest plate, the trooper only have it on the helmets but it's gray, not gold.
>>17125162So I've been looking and apparently it's called the Zaik Tulip. And there is a surprising amount of info on it. From where it grows, pollination, and more. The three Tulips represent the values upheld by Zaik: Duty, Temperance and Faith.
>>17124855Retard. He’s literally the most over the top racist in the show.
>>17124955Isn’t it basically a flour de lis? Also ultrametal army a shit.
>>17124704The ultimate Musa Xenon is god tier though. I do agree cykas are a close second.
>>17124688The first is backstory from when Ancient Mali duked it out with the first coold ultrametal fleet, the second is also backstory but elaborated on in a flashback arc, fourth is the earlier part of the main story and the third is actually the second half.
>>17124711Both of them are the same universe, five years War is a side story. Remember when Iseleth met Jacob and anons starting screeching DUDEBLACKEDLMAO and spamming interracial porn all over the threads? It was fucking horrible.
Um. All the zaiks, or zaiggers as I call them, need to leave this board or I will genocide them.
>>17126550>genocide apologists get genocidedKino
>>17123955There's some better drawfags here, but I wanted to my my hand at these. What do you think?
>>17127290I like it, anon. Looks like a good start for refining the designs.
What's your favorite Zufregaton variant, anons? I like the Space Assault Type.
>>17127316I prefer the Royal Guard. Very ornate and more geared to defense with all the sub arms and point defenses. The gunspear they wield also kicks them up in my favorites. They really remind me of giant Custodes
>>17127326>>17127316Oh I thought you meant Zaik. My bad. But my point still stands
>>17127326Those are pretty damn cool, but the stupid amount of thrusters on the Space Assault Type elevate to my favorite.
>>17127316The Recoil System variant was too good for this world.
>>17127316Big fan of the Zufregaton-F "Fafnir," with all of its desposable rocket launchers and its chaingun. Itachi really went crazy with that 3rd UFV edition.
>>17127342I thought the 'F' was the Flamma or incendiary variant?
>>17127348Flamma was retconned
>>17127350Damn, I liked it.
>>17127348That was the F/Fla variant, which replaced the chaingun and its ammo tube with a flamethrower.
>>17127353Getting mixed singles. What eve happened to that teaser of that HUGE Zufregaton? The one that was 2-3 Zufs tall?
I still can't get over Zaik's stupid fucking faceplate. Was donning an eyemask like Ftyun or Ennogra really too much to ask for?
>>17127357It got put in the UFV-A Manga as a NUMA superweapon. Somehow fucking jobbed hard against steampunk trash
>>17125003The hacks are gonna pull a Lockon Stratos and throw in his secret twin brother
>>17127297Thanks anon....I didn't really read the last thread. Uhm. So do you happen to know which mech is which?
>>17127422Left is the Mechanized Cyka, right is the Zufregaton.Don't worry, I didn't read the last thread either, I'm learning as I go along.
>>17127316I prefer the heavy weapons system variant. To bad its stuck in some obscure MSV type art book and will never get a kit
It's wild to believe this isn't even the most autistic thread on the board
>>17127316I honestly liked that D.S.A. (Deep Sea Assassin) variant they tried out. The eight claw-arms were efficient at tearing unsuspecting enemy suits limb from limb, and the bladed fin on its back allowed for speedy takedowns. I thought the merman tail looked pretty gay at first (still kinda does), but it's good at further inhibiting the movement of others as it is increasing the efficiency of underwater mobility for DSA.Unfortunately, D.S.A. didn't see much action since most battles take place on land, in the air, and in space, and even whenever it got its chance to shine, they were usually short-lived with a quick kill here and there. Its grand debut was fucking great, though, you could tell that most of the animation budget went to that thing as it effortlessly mauled twenty-three different suits within minutes. Too bad it jobbed like a bitch on its fourth battle. Hopefully they'll bring it back.
>>17127623I liked how it actually had two cockpits, one to control the arms and one to control the movement of the machine itself, it really made it feel a bit more realistic and stand out among the other mechas at least until the producers decided to slap a dual cockpit onto every other design just so we could have the pilots banter with each other during battles
Proposing the head labeled "Zeufregaton A" as the new design for the standard model's head, since the whole "big sunglasses" thing just kinda looks goofy
>>17126525Well,yeah,of course.Both stories kinda merge later,when Millennial gets colonized by the Unity and then fights a bunch of aliens,and then Isteleth leads an insurgence that wants to restore the previous imperial order she served,before her world got invaded. We've barely seen the cool shit from the books yet. Hope they adapt past RotFYW,since Call of The Void,which is next has pyro and electrokinetic psychics,moar super prototypes,THE END OF THE WORLD and even some /ara/.
>>17127290Good shit. Dieselpunk a best.>>17127316There’s only one Zufregatron, and Zaik sent him to die. Fuck Zaik, he’s like char but with none of the charisma.>>17127326>liking the royal guard over the ancient Mali empire’s Golden armor
>>17127889Zufregatron was too good for this world. Best mech, best dude, best everything.
>>17127889There's only one Zufregatron by the time of the third series, but in the fourth series that takes place 30 years earlier there's still tons of them around
>>17127916>Zufregatron watched all his friends dieNo wonder he was suicidal.
>>17127916Wait you mean the one leading up to the second coold invasion? That shit was fucked up, Semeni’s descent into cruelty was straight up horrifying.
>>17127934Don't forget being trapped underground for 25 years, that surely contributed to the suicidality as well
>>17127965>when my body turns to dust...will it fly out to reach the others, too?I cried like a bitch
>>17127871>>17127916>>17127965So let me get the timeline straight!>ancient history, coold refugees settle on earth in Africa and intermix>late 13th century, Musa I uses coold tech to produce an empire unmatched in wealth, power, technology>13th-14th century, Abu Bakr IIleaves on his journey across the Atlantic, lands in modern day Brazil, tech spreads across the Americas, Cahokia and the Mayans become locked in a bitter Cold War>~1330 tech development attracts chancellor Ftyun and his ultrametal fleet who see it as a threat and pew pew the earth back into a dark age, Musa is killed, tech is lost>~1820 Russian explorer Olmos Vand discovers old blueprints for golden armors on a trip to Mali, sends them to the czar, Americans find out and start terrorizing the natives to find extra blueprints too>1845: first line of biped engines (later nicknamed “cykas” for their notoriously poor performance) are produced>1861-1862-us civil war, confederacy defeated by embittered tribes of the south who are tired of both sides exploiting them especially post-trail of tears, use old cahokian armors to declare independence>1870s-1890s industrial revolution, Russian czar line is abolished in favor of democracy, the Sequoia Confederation is recognized as a separate state>1891-Empreror adye commissions the Zufregatron-class mobile suits after discovering earth has advanced, but remains cautious>1892 first (really second) contact.Will post more in a bit
>tfw hd remaster never ever
>>17128072Fuck, there isn’t even an SD remaster. This shit is bootlegged video tapes.
Daily reminder that Kenneth is a subhuman moron and Jacob did nothing wrong.
>>17128051My bad, abu died in North America, that’s when Musa started building his empire. Anyway:>1851: Timbuktu is officially part of French senegal, secret society protecting last remaining golden armor™ Hides it underneath university >1893 diplomatic talks between coold and various countries on earth go sideways, the unity is formed to prevent a war, emperor adye’s daughter sermeni is born>1894 AHP party within the unity is formed, Alabama starstripe,Kenneth, isteleth and Zaik’s father diek are born>1907-1910 super cykas are developed, adye retires and Sermeni is crowned queen, coold and earth, especially Sequoia, begin militarizing, Diek is made head of genetic weapons, Ingo and Ashyu are born.>1911-1916 FIVE YEARS WAR. Zufregatron units and olive mutators descend to earth on mass, initially dealing heavy losses of over 35 million people. However Sequoia and Russia team up and help destroy almost every Zufregatron except one, which gets buried under rubble. Queen Sermeni is killed, but Diek saves her unborn child Kaede using a human surrogate. Zaik is born. Coold surrenders to the unity, AHP becomes stronger than ever, and Ingo becomes princess with Diek as her regent.>1919 Jacques aka Jacob is born in Timbuktu, French Sénégal.>1920s-1930s- pjotr’s father is assasinated by the AHP, Super cykas are perfected, moon and Mars colonies formed, Vadim joins elite Russian crimson ushanka squad, Zaik joins the cooldian unity military branch.>1938 resident autist Jacob goes snooping around in Timbuktu university, finds golden armor, main series begins.Sorry about TL;DR, I missed a few details.
>>17128443>exact same race, nationality and even heritage>but Kenneth is subhumanRetard. He’s a huge scumbag but it’s just because he’s a dick.
Call me crazy for even thinking about it, but I believe Tetsuo Hidalgo will finally power his mech with Bursenite in this episode.Think about it. It's the stuff that killed his mother and three sisters, but he's stranded on that asteroid with no help to arrive.He won't be like his father, letting the radiation consume his psyche, but he's got to do it. We are five episodes in and this shit ain't two-cour.
Why is everybody calling every Ultrametal Frame a Zufregatron? Isn't that just like calling every Mobile Suit a Gundam?
>>17128470The ultrametal frames in the five years war were primarily Zufregatrons with a few exceptions. The AI on these allowed them to not have pilots, but also led to self awareness and insanity, and they were all either scrapped or defeated save the one we know and love. Current ultrametal suits are piloted or have simple ai.
>>17128455>exact same race,nationality and heritageSo how exactly is being the grandson of a WW1 British soldier who immigrated to America,and being a pale,5'3 ginger autist the same as being a 5'11 black-as-sin,white-haired,blue-eyed African posthuman?
>>17128443Jacob never did anything wrong. The gassing of those chinese civilians? Justified! The way he fought in the middle of that african village? Justified!Anyways,on the subject of people who did nothing wrong,Isteleth's crucifiction of those Asmurran soldiers was justified,since she killed them beforehand. I mean,they refused to yield.
Ideon Omega was the worst series in the franchise and only nostalgiafags disagree.
>>17128913Wait,I'm sorta out-of-touch. How many Ideon sequels did we end up getting again?
>>17128926Two direct sequels, one spinoff with its own sequel (Ideoff and Ideoff: The Sixth Returns), and that godawful manga that tried to bridge the two together. Making that squirrel an alien observer was far worse than anything in Ideon Omega; it's why there hasn't been anything new in the franchise in years.
>>17128870> The gassing of those chinese civilians? Justified! He wasn't the one piloting the Golden Armor at that time. It was Pjotr Voronov that launched the gas canisters whilst hijacking the Golden Armor, so as to frame Jacob for war crimes he didn't even know about.>The way he fought in the middle of that african village? Justified!Bitch, he was outnumbered against a squad of elite Cyka pilots, led by Vadim. You known, the motherfucking Crimson Ushanka? The guy that, later on in the story, had to be nuked from orbit by Zaik because he was that much of a threat? Golden Armor or not, Jacob would've got himself killed if he didn't cut loose and activated Overdrive.
>>17128945Don't forget that godawful idolshit live-action series... Ide-ON!
>>17128470To be fair, we've also been classifying Ultrametal Frames as mobile suits. We should probably decide whether we call them UF or MS.
>>17128979>tfw the CDs ALONE outsold the rest of the Ideon franchiseFUCK NIPS AND THEIR SHIT TASTES
>>17128992Having a unique distinction from a certain other franchise is best, so go with UF.
>>17128979>IDE-ON! >badNext thing you'll say is that K-ON!!! is bad too and then I'll drop you out of a window.
>>17128979Don't remind me I've been explicitly trying to forget that abomination. The worst part was that the early episodes weren't even that bad. It just nose dived hard when the Neo-Buff clan showed up. Neo-buff clan didn't have a single redeemable song unlike the girls from the Duo ship.
>>17129249GO BACK TO /A/ MOEFAGLEAVE /M/ ALONEREEEEEE
>>17128861>jacob>gingerThat’s Jesse you fucking idiot. Jacob from Mali, and he’s black as coal.>>17128870>dragon triad>civiliansAre you high? I will admit the gassing was way out of hand, but he had no idea what the fuck he was doing at the time due to lack of training so it’s partly julian’s Fault.
Boots Warrior Footclamp did it better.
>>17129563Jesse is one of Kaede's nigger manservants that gets an off-hand mention in the book. Can't believe they had him with her all the way in the anime.
>>17129563Those gangster scum deserved it. But I was talking about the one time they rushed into that chinese city and Jacob launched a bunch of gas grenades into a mass of fleeing of civilians,because he rememebered he hated rice niggers. Generally I do wonder how he got away with all that civilian killing during the first half of the anime. Probably because they weren't whites.
>>17129579>gets more shit done than kaede herselfKek. The fact that the majority of the competent characters on both sides are black is hilarious, especially when it triggers /pol/.
Can someone make a version of this that says “RACISM IS BAD” with a golden armor?
>>17129594>Kenneth >competentBut yeah,those AHP niggers sure did their job.
>>17129621I said most, not all. Though Kenneth at least had the charisma to ram through his plans until Zaik ousted him, which Zaik certainly fucking didn’t.
>>17128450Also most of eastern and central Europe got decimated in the five years war, France is barely holding onto its territories and west Africa is defacto independent. Hence all the butthurt yurops joining the AHP all of a sudden.
>>17128992Iirc the overall terminology for any of those (cykas, uf, golden armors etc) is bipeds, the way planes and tanks are called planes and tanks.
>>17123929This is now a Goomblebot 9 thread.Nobody can challenge him and win, even in SRW he isnt balanced.
Diek is actually Kaede and Ingo’s father, screenshot this post.
>>17129663Goomblebot 7 is better.
>>17129648I'm pretty sure Jacob ousted him by reminding him of what the Unity stood for. Then he participated in an orbital battle. And we know how that went.
>>17129670>implyingGet real dork.We all know that Goomblebot 7 died to Salia's tears and didn't do anything in the story at all. At least Goomblebot 9 destroyed the Wall of Emulzio in episode 45 and that was cooler than anything that a dead robot will do ever.Also Goomblebot 7 looks like a fucking turd I don't know how the character designer got away with this.
>>17129671Sort of. When Zaik removed him from powers he took a few stragglers and went bananas, Jacob intervened and shot him down, and Zaik didn’t get his hands dirty. Like many things he does, this comes to bite Jacob in the ass later.
>>17129684>not liking the golden poo
>>17129663>>17129684>goomblebot fagyou guys are worse than the zaikfags reeeeee get off my board
>>17129714>liking pooScat leads to lots of diseases anon get help.
>>17129719If there’s anything we all can agree on, it’s that nothing compares to the cancer that is resynfags.
>>17129741I guessthey're all fags
I'm probably going to try and drawfag some of the other bipeds. Can anyone give me a vague description of what Cahokian armors and Golden armors look like?
>>17130571The Cahokian armors are cahokian, the golden armors are made of gold
>>17129588Again, if you see the autist doing war crimes during the first half, it’s probably Voronov that’s to blame.
>>17130701There's one down. Not sure what to do with the Golden armors though
>>17130897Internally similar to the cahokian armor, but outwardly much more ornate
>>17130922I uh, also ran out of space on the paper...Sorry, anon.
>>17130931get more paper then
>>17130897draw the goomblebots they cute>>17129684>>17129663
>>17130739I don't think you make the difference between ''committing war crimes'' which Jacob does and ''ordering war crimes to be commited'' which Voronov does.
>>17130701Cahokia was a city across from st Louis from the mound builder culture, so if there’s any historical recreations of that it’s probably useful. Maybe they’d be used for construction.thanks based drawfriend
>>17130897Something long and skinny and rounded like pic related but made of magic GOLD.
>the tallest of the Zufregatron, the water skipper variant, was almost five meters in height.Kek, no wonder zuffy wanted to kill himself, mechlet. I know he wasn’t a skipper, so he must have been even shorter. Even the Sequoia bipeds were taller.
>>17131110Dude the only time he committed anything resembling a war crime was that gas grenade gone awry that he didn’t know how to use. Voronov is a fucking sadist, and he’s the leader of a squadron of other sadists who stole the golden armor.
>>17134155Do note the water skipper's crouching like 95% of the time we see it, if it straightened those spider legs out it'd be at least 9 meters
>>17134288Our zuffy is still a ground type. Cry more mechlet.
>>17134155Oh fuck me, it's in votomsscale? I'll have to redraw everything
>>17135119Nah it’s ok man. They don’t have to be in scale, it makes Zufregatron feel taller.
>>17134288Those legs aren’t designed to stand up, they’re meant to give more surface area.
>>17135199oh jesus i can't make the design smaller without zuffy look retarded god help me
Sorry if it looks like I rushed it. It looks like that because I rushed it.
>>17136056Also, the mecha cyka isn't in there because I'm having a hard time trying to translate the design into votoms-scale.
Is there an in-universe explanation for why the Cyka's arms are so scrawny?
>>17136332Cyka units were rushed to production in 1848 to assist more conventional czarist forces due to growing unrest sparked by other European revolutions of the time. This resulted in the design maintaining a few kinks that designers simply didn't have the time to work out.
>>17136056>>17135909this is actually what happened when the showrunners didn't coordinate with each other very well in the first few episodes so the mechs ended up being small despite designs that would fit for a tall robot more
>>17123929>I want /pol/ to leave.Gee, I wonder ∇∇∇who∇∇∇ could be behind this post.
>>17136056>>17136313Thanks anon.i May come up with an idea too.>>17136364That and the weapons used were pretty light, as opposed to there which were also used as construction robots in peacetime.
So does the Mansa society ever help Jacob restore the Golden armor or what? In the ep preview it shows him with some bipeds in front of some mine.
Gundam ZZ surely was a satisfactory culmination to the Amuro/Char rivalry and ideologies. Glad we didn't get some shitty movie.
>>17135909It’s okay, zuffy’s actions are what make him look retarded, not his appearance.I miss himAlso did Siberia split from Russia peacefully or not? The records we have don’t show any fighting but Czarina Anastasia implies there’s some tension going on, although that could just be her warmongering.
>>17136816We don't even know if Anastasia's actually part of the czar line. The manual for the 1/35 Royal Guard Cyka states that they ultimately got thrown out of their palace and "were left to the judgement of the people" in 1889. It's highly implied she's a fake figurehead set up by loyalist remnants in Kamchatka
>>17136934Wasn’t most of the royal family saved though? They did help form the parliament.
>hear character designer did porn>get excited for delicious brown smut>it’s all granny pornWhat the FUCK?
I can't believe they changed the artstyle for Crossbone Gundam: Ghost. Literally when it starts getting fucking good in terms of art. This is the worst of everything. Sunrise are fucking hacks.
>>17137513The death of the czars might've been retconned with the recent series. They did indeed help construct what would ultimately become the Unity parliament, but would subsequently abolish and reestablish it when it clashed with the crown's will.
>>17137655Don’t forget the QUALITY in the second half. Seriously, how do you fuck up CG like that?>>17137717Sorry, I meant the Russian parliament. Unity was formed way later.
>>17137748I mean yeah, technically they are different entities, but the general structure of the Unity parliament was pretty much inherited from the Russian one. They're even explicitly stated in some episodes to use the exact same building.
>>17128450It's kind of amazing how they went with BPs using period-appropriate bolt action rifle cannons for the Five Years War. I honestly thought they were going to cop out and have them use more modern weapons.
>>17137518Well it's not really all that surprising if you actually look at his original concept art for the characters before it got streamlined for production, the sketches of Kenneth look like he's 150 years old rather than just 50 like he's supposed to be with how fucking wrinkly he is
guys hard topic, but can we talk about the game?who the fuck thought this was a good idea
So glad that this is finally gaining traction, I enjoyed the fight scenes focusing on mechanical mishaps actually meaning something.The Amalgama thread finally made it's way to /m/.
>>17137518It's a damn shame, but we always have the doujins
>>17138761Yeah it’s amazing the attention to detail this series has. The research team must be insane. >>17139626God that was shit, I thought it couldn’t be worse than srw YC but they managed it.
>>17139962Remember those threads talking about the guns? /k/ and /his/ came together, it was fucking insufferable.
>>17140903>WHAT THE FUCK THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE USING SHARPS RIFLES IT'S 1911>they're native americans anon>SHUT THE FUCK UP
>>17140940>DURR WHY IS THE MUZZLE THINNER>it’s not a real gun
>>17140965>WAAAAAA MUH SOUTH GOT BTFO'D BY MULATTOS>anon it's just an anime calm down
>>17139863most of the characters are old dudes kept alive on liquid tanks, what sort of doujin are you looking for?
>>17141245>most of the characters are old dudes kept alive on liquid tankst. hasn't watched the OVAs
>>17141372Especially retarded since the tv series was a series of shorts and the main story was in ovas to accommodate the animation.
>>17141192The confederate butthurt in the threads will never stop being hilarious.
>>17141396>>17141372still, the vast majority of characters were either either not shown or on liquid tanks, we get one average girl for the doujinsnot sure about the OVAs, but unless they're butchering the show's aesthetic to sell figurines, I don't see how we get any characters for porn
>>17141396>>17141449They're mostly side characters but it's better than nothing
>>17139962Also, seeing mechs in Napoleonic warfare during flashback scenes was the most kino thing I've seen in a while
>>17141398Why the fuck did they think the Confeds had any chance, anyway? Especially with the Cahokians backing the Union up and giving them hax bipeds and the Confederacy not even having any until the Russians handed them even crappier cykas.
South East Asia arc was fucking insane. Practically a reinterpretation of the Thanh Giong legend, but a superfast Man Machine with mega beam cannons and beam swords, instead of an iron horse, although he still needs a high tech suit of armor before he can pilot it to fully maximise his potential.
>>17142422To be fair some very pissed off Cherokee slaveowners we’re backing them until the Choctaw got pissed and starting reclaiming the moundbuilder homeland. Then they switched and curb stomped them.>>17142436That was fucking kino, but the bullshit Jacob pulled in Borneo was unacceptable. What the fuck was he thinking?
>when Golden beat starts playing Step aside 99.9, there is a new greatest OP in town.
>>17143971>Jacob>thinkingIt's either one or the other, you can't have both.
>>17143979>when golden beat starts playing during the fight>it's actually the villain remix version
>>17144234Byg Dycke's fight scenes really were hype as hell
>>17144208>complains about being stereotyped as an idiot because he’s black>proceeds to act like an idiotGood god, get your act together. Even Jan is better than this.>>17144234>>17144300Nothing tops the instrumental version though.
>>17144842>Jacob>BlackI swear, for the sole pale-as-fuck ginger manlet in the main cast for a long while, he sure as hell gets confused with Jesse a lot, who's actually black. fucking fansubbers
>>17144913Jesse is Alabama starstripe’s son. He’s the one who tried pretending to be Jacob.
>>17144927>smear literal feces on your face>I’m Jacob bow down to me!I’m no sjw but holy fuck. At least AS punched him.
>>17145001>implying this didn't fool you as well
>>17136796Thankfully the initial design issues were fixed in the later Cyka IIs and Super Cykas. Those things are fucking thoroughbred war-BPs.
>>17145815>inefficient unfiltered Diesel engines>thoroughbred war BPsLol
>>17145416>a foot shorter than Jacob>16 years old>literally smeared poop on his face IN FRONT OF THE MAIN CAST>”n-no! He totally fooled them!”Jesse gags are hilarious.
>>17139962>srw YCGod that made me so fucking mad. They turned the golden armor recreation into an absolute joke. Jacob deserved better.
>>17142279>Fr*nch mechs>goodGET OUT OF MALI COLONIALIST SCUMREEEEEEEEEE
So are cooldians a subspecies of humans or an entirely different hominid? If the side manual is to be believed they split off after the toba catastrophe teleported them to coold, but the teleportation could’ve happened much earlier. Also, when was the artificial wormhole perfected?
>>17146771Actually, the Super Cykas with shitty diesel engines are actually Cyka Is that had underwent incomplete conversions. Fully upgraded units as well as factory produced Super Cykas had fuel injection systems, as well as armored-up legs and arms.
>>17146828They're a different hominid, in fact the genetic difference being too large for them to interbreed with humans was an important plot pointwith Byg Dycke being unable to impregnate Miranda being foreshadowing of him being a cooldian spy
Also, why are some cooldians blue for some reason? Queen Sermeni is blue but Byg Dycke isn’t, for example. Any reason for that?
>>17147240Their religious practices involve colloidal silver when it comes to people of noble heritage, which is why those of high rank tend to be blue
>>17147281I read something on an artbook relating the colloidal silver to a higher piloting capabilitysomething on the likes of "enhancing the neural connection"is this canon?it would explain why Big Dycke is such a legendary pilot, since he's shown to be far better than some noblesit showed this especially well during the arc where he was still an infiltrated agent
>>17147465If anything this would mean the silver actually weakens the connection, since Dycke was exalted by the church and thus never took part in the injection rituals
>>17144208Hey fuck you,Jacob's pretty crafty where warfare's concerned. Problem with him is that he tries to apply cavalry doctrine to flirting with women.
>>17147480I thought it was something like "we have no idea if it works, but the holy scriptures say so and we won't question"they treat a lot of the warfare-related religious practices like that
>>17123929>that devilman in a doraemon suit cameo in ep 17what the literal fuck did yamazaki mean with that?
>>17147490I think there was a passing point late in the series that colloidal silver was actually had a similar effect to mercury, and that the nobility was actually becoming slowly insane
>>17147240>>17147281Iirc most cooldians are grey or bluish-brown, Byg Dyke has an autoimmune disorder and the Restan Royal Family (queen Sermeni and co) have the silver affecting their skin.
>>17147483Jesus, don’t remind me. That scene with Ingo gave me secondhand embarrassment so bad I had to drop the episode.
>>17148019>tfw even Zuffy cringed at Jacob trying to flirt with Ingo.
>>17148081Zuffy was a bro, I bawled my eyes out when he died.
>>17148097> I was only 9 years old> I loved zuffy so much, I had all the zufregaton kits and BPVs> I pray to zuffy every night before bed, thanking him for the life I've been given> "Zuffy is love" I say. "Zuffy is life"> My dad hears me and calls me a /pol/fag> I call him a /lgbt/ tard> He slaps me and sends me to my room> Im crying now, and my face hurts> I lay in bed and its really coold> I feel some battery-powered motors moving towards me> I look around in my binoculars> Its zuffy> I am so happy> He whispers over comms, "its not size that matters, its how you use it"> He grabs my mech with his ~~tiny~~ powerful manipulators and puts it on its hands and knees> I'm ready> I spread my pincer formation for Zuffy> He performs a forceful, frontal penetration> It hurts so much but I do it for Zuffy> I can feel my formation cracking as Cyka engines begin to break down> I tighten the pincer further> "I must give him a battle we're both satisfied with!"> The explosion of Zuffy's BP roars throughout the field as he dies like his comrads did> My dad walks in> Zuffy looks at him, then stares at me straight in the eyes before saying, "when my body turns to dust...will it fly out to reach the others, too?"> His ashes are taken by the wind> Zuffy is love, Zuffy is life
You guys really need to stop forcing memes and let things happen more naturally. The first thread was okay, but this one is kind of redundant.
>that episode previewJAKEFAGS ON SUICIDE WATCH
>>17150050That thread didn't exist, anon and neither does your opinion, unlike CoWU which is very real.
>>17150134cowu more like cash cowu amiritetoo bad the nips have shit taste in plamo. Skipper Zufregatron when?
>that scene with Hans aspergerHoly fuck, when you guys said Jacob was autistic I didn’t think you meant it literally
>>17150155There's probably not going to be a kit for any of the nonstandard-frame Zufregatons. Or at least, there won't be before Takoki cannibalizes them.
>>17125218>le restoration is bad maymayFuck you people. What’s wrong with wanting humans and cooldians to be united under one empire? Unity a shit.
Someone post the chronicles of unity war view guide. Is the OVA and movies worth watching? And do I go into it by production order?
>>17152570The main series was adapted first as a series of tv-length ONAs, then recut into a series of movies like 2199 with some added content and animation bumps. Then a series of OVAs/ONAs formatted like the origin were released adapting recollections of the five years war. I’d go in production order, because rotfyw has some material that are spoilers in the first series.
>>17152115Taoki is an ok designer but the mechs he designed with cannibalized Zufregatron parts are atrocious. It’s like wearing the corpses of your enemies. What a spit in the face to the rebels trying to help earth.
>>17152987thanks man. I was about jump straight into rotfyw because of the eye candy animations. but the story is good and should be experienced the right way I suppose.
>>17123929>he hasn't transcended unto the iron fleshStay mad cykafag
>>17152996Yeah. The more he does that, the more I start missing when Koyokama did work for the series. Even when they did get simplified for animation, his designs were great
>>17152996>>17153309>liking Koyokama's designsContrarian for the sake of being contrarian. No one liked that shit. Take off your nostalgia goggles and go back and watch it again. The only salvation for the Koyokama era was the character design and the amazing soundtrack. Koyokama didn't even have anything to do with the characters and is probably one of the reasons his mech design was so in clash with the rest of the show. >thinking it's a clever idea to give Tanaka the bulkiest mech while Aki gets the walking skeleton...Fuck Koyokama and glad we got rid of him. Most of Japan agrees with me.
>>17123929I heard a rumor on a reputable Tibetan Tapestry appreciation forum that they're gonna do an AU with a new lead designer, some western guy named David Honey-wine. Think it'll be any good?
>>17153390I don't think that was Koyokama, anon. He did grunt BPs rather than any of the protagonist ones; you might know him better for his later work on Machine Warrior. Are you sure you're not talking about Kaboyashi?
>>17153472awh man. pulled the trigger way too early there. yeah you're right. well still it didn't really make an impact with me anyway, hence the mistake. Kaboyashi was shit then. Never liked ultrametal design under him.I dropped Machine Warrior after that godawful episode 12. I mean come on... designs were ok tho.
>>17153511Yeah, Machine Warrior had no business having its own show because it basically becomes a shitty Gundam parody at that point. They should've stuck with the manga and the resin kits.
>>17153445Is that the guy who did that visual design one sci-fi movie? Like, "Nort" or something?
>>17127889>>17127892>>17127934>>17128470>>17128484>>17128992I think there seems to be some overall confusion and it's something that both new and oldfags get mixed up so lemme explain:At the beginning of the Five Year War was the original Zufregatron, which was the name of both the pilot AND the Ultrametal Frame. Zufregatron had a heavily modified version of the standard NUA mook frame and he named it after himself because he's both incredibly egotistical and incredibly insane. What doesn't help is that by the time of his death his mental state had so significantly deteriorated that he genuinely believed he WAS the robot (Zaik's manipulation didn't help things in that front). This is primarily why it's often misconstrued as the robot being sentient/AI driven due to discussions lacking that context to newer viewers. Not helping things was the leaked script/concept art for a scrapped plot thread in season 4 where Zaik was gonna resurrect Zufregatron by hotwiring the charred remains of his corpse into a brand new Ultrametal Frame (which later got reworked into that gold and purple one with the five horns), which was scrapped because the idea was that he's fully aware and feels all the damage and it would keep him in a constant and unending state of pain and misery and the staff decided this was too fucked up even for Zaik. (Cont.)
>>17153632Now even though Zufregatron's death didn't end up helping them win the battle for Japan Zaik ended up pulling a Garma and used his death as propaganda to bolster the NUA into even further delusional support, and they would eventually adapt the Zufregatron's customizations as the standard issue UM Frames for the NUA, with further variants down the line. The AI equipped ones were a special squadron of them given the combat skills and personality of the original Zufregatron as the NUA's ultimate weapon (think they were called the Phoenix Zufregatron Squad but that might be wrong). Although they were too accurate and they all ended up being egotistical psychos who fought each other more than any of the heroes but thats irrelevant.Now as for the "UM Frame or Mobile Suit" part I think someone in universe jokingly called them mobile suits and it just kind of stuck as a catch all term for the mechs in the show, like how Megazord was for Super Sentai after Power Rangers
>>17146801>a foot shorter than Jacob>16 years oldSo you're talking about that time Jacob snapped and impersonated Kenneth in front of Charlotte?
>>17153671Are you sure you're not talking about the manga adaption? There's alot of differences between the manga and the anime, since they both loosely follow the books.
>>17129663>Goomblebot 9I dunno, according to the Goomblebot movie sequel, Goomblebot 18 is definitely the better one. But who cares, Goomblebot isn't even the best Super Robot show out right now.That's Jinraiger.
>>17153706No the manga he was just the robot the whole time and there was never any mention of a pilot
>>17153671Wasn't the whole point of writing in the Five Years War was to profit off of all the Zufregaton variants that were left unexplained in UFV and BPV books after the main series?
>>17153751I think? I'm not entirely sure. It was always kinda there but generally vague as fuck IIRC
>>17153309He still works on the series, he’s just the head of the overall mecha designs to keep the style consistent rather than doing every one.
>>17153445>the kkk member animating a series set in africa featuring African culture and peopleKill me.
>>17153511Machine warrior’s anime was dai shogun tier awful.
>>17153632The original Zufregatron died in 1903 in the testing phases, they used his consciousness to (very loosely) model the AI for the ground type, Lertz was the skipper type, Harley was the Aerial type, and the other classes had various pilots’ minds as bases. Zaik wasn’t born then, although he DID manipulate our Zuffy (ground type) into blowing himself up. The original novel which was in the author’s words a first draft was closer to what you described, but Jusi decided more edge was in order.
>>17154086I think he was referencing Syd Mead but eh fuck I'll go along with itAre they seriously cashing in on the /pol/-bucks there? Goddamnit, looks like they're never going to leave
>>17154086Stop spreading misinformation, he’s only in charge of mech designs.
If you had to choose between these two model kits, which one would you choose and why?>Zaik Tokuga Sai Mk.II >GEO Hamada Jinsei Mk IVI like the colour scheme of the Jinsei, but the Sai has a more of a cool factor.
>>17155718The Sai looks cool but after a while it's legs will get floppy as fuck due to it's weight straining the joints, if you have the intention to pose it this may be a major turnoff
>>17155768Oh man what a shame if only there were some kind of display stand that exists for the kits
>>17155718Hanada jinsei, that kimono-like armor is beautiful.>>17154516Get ready for the “ZAIK DID NOTHING WRONG” asspulls, just like Fukui.
Did they even end up expanding on Green Mutator? It feels like he just straight-up vanished after series 2 with nobody even mentioning him afterwards and he didn't get all that much buildup or explanation when he first appeared either. Was his whole existence in the show just an excuse to sell monster-themed toys in addition to the usual robotic ones?
>>17156611Iirc the in universe excuse is that biological warfare was banned because of the treaty but it was probably just Danset trying to cover their asses for the merchandising fuckup. A damn shame, since they were pretty cool
>>17155768Recently, some people have been reinforcing the legs with 3D printed parts. Apparently it's somewhat harder to pose with the extra leg weight but ultimately worth it
>>17156026Some creative types have reinforced the legs from the inside and/or hanging it rather than putting it on a stand.
It's a shame the Ultrametal faction never really came up with a true mass-produced BP. The Volkzufs got kinda close to one but even those didn't have standardized parts.
>>17159220To be fair they weren’t focusing on Bipeds at the time, the neo ultrametal army was more so.
In your opinion, who was the best mecha designer who worked on CotuW and why is it isubuche?
>>17160323Eh. I'm willing to admit that Isubuche did some cool redesigns, but they don't hold a candle to Koyokama's work.
Season 2 of Aurora Biker Fulcrum was garbage. A total ripoff of the plot of Moptop Gothikomb.
>>17160323Wasn’t she the former history professor? Her designs for the tlingit mechs were my favorite ever.
>Rojiyoshi killed off best girl again>Even did it offscreen this timeEvery god damn time
>>17161386Fuck that guy, he should’ve died in Berlin.
>>17161385Yeah, that's her. she's also fucking hot now that I've searched her up, holy shit
>>17164105>middle age lady>hotI swear to god, you grannyfags are the worst.
>>17164171do you not like cougars anon