Raven, it's time for another Armored Core Thread. In case you missed it: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_GV-fWSLeqLqN-gA6T9-xlf022TKtH33/view?usp=sharingPrevious Thread: >>17026913
why has miyazaki forsaken us
Who is the most /our guy/ AC character and why is it J?
>>17048448destruction path 4A protag.
>having troubles with this edgy fuck>youreprettygood.jpg>pull up grenade weapons too in desperation>he get killed in a few secondsKek, these weapons should be illegal
What do you think is taking so long for AC6?How many people related to the AC team left FS? I know one left for Square Enix (poor retard) and one is doing Machina X Deamon
jp audio with english subs when
>>17048448>Who is the most /our guy/ AC characterShinkai because he gets cucked harder than ever.
Nine-Ball did nothing wrong
>>17048608>Miyazaki riding high on Souls money at a game conference>someone asks about a series that's not Souls>ArmoredCore6when.jpg>ohshit>Haha we are uh... working on the next one right now!>Get back to HQ and start pillaging the offices for someone who still knows how the fuck to make an AC game
>>17048608>What do you think is taking so long for AC6?What AC6 you're talking about anon?
>>17048608Supposedly most of them besides Miyazaki obviously have left. At least we have Daemon x Machina to look forward to, it looks pretty cool so far and should scratch that itch. I wish someone would make a more classic style spiritual successor though since they all seem to lean more towards the 4A style.>>17048612AC dubs are GOAT though, especially 4 era.
>>17048629>At least we have Daemon x Machina to look forward toI'm looking forward to the customization but gameplay wise it just looks way too floaty to me, like there's no gravity at all.
Assuming 3 corporations, what 3 mecha designers would you choose to work on ACVI?KobayashiIshigakiKatoki
Which game has the best missions?
>>17048639Izubuchi and that’s it. I don’t want a repeat of FA where the parts don’t match worth a damn.
>>17048639Kobayashi's designs are sexy as fuck but I'm not sure they'd fit AC. If FROM ever decides to remake Frame Gride though, he's the guy to call.
>>17048952I don't know man, I think it could work
>>17048608Our best bet is the Deamon whatever on the switch. AC is dead and miyazaki is the only one left in From that knows how ot make AC. we will get more souls and not-souls
>>17048995>V's director was hiring>Miyazaki said multiple time they're working on it>From Soft is working on 2 unannounced games>Massive OST collection>"please wait a little while longer">"AC is dead"
>>17048639KawamoriFujiokaNagano>>17048924Silent Line for me.
>>17049030I'll believe when I see it. until it is dead. no point in rising expectations.When I see a big and fat ARMORED CORE 6 TRAILER or ARMORED CORE 20XX on my feed I'll get happy. just like DMC5 and Ace Combat 7
>>170489243 and Silent Line. The gimmick missions aren't too bad, there's a nice mix of MTs and enemy ACs in missions, they have the best indoor missions in the series and the few missions where you're fighting alongside multiple other Ravens feel great.The downside is nothing in the early missions ever feels threatening but that's a problem that 4th gen shares as well.
>>17048596What the fuck are you talking about?
>>17049051this for god's sake.
>>17048422that looks like a shitty Royal Angel meme.
>>17048995who the fuck keeps spreading this stupid fucking rumor around. TWO people leave from soft and suddenly everyone's screaming that there's no one who can make AC.
>>17050216A good portion of the AC team that got laid off made their own indie studio Winter Crown Works and they're making Merkava Avalanche. So yeah it's more than just two people.
>>17050420>Merkava AvalancheFirst time I heard about thisDamn, RIP AC I guess.
>mission requires you to kill yourselfThis is not ok
>>17050631Look at this poor Jian who didn't even begin his cycle of guilt
>>17049180Just ignore him. He was an avatar fagging shitposter back when /acg/ was on /vg/ and has a huge hate boner for one of the tripfags that used it.
>post yfw the teaser trailer for AC6 is revealed at the Game Awards.
>>17050490who is that cute anime i need something to jack off to
>>17050666you can't get my hopes up, Satan
>>17050666You better keep your word, Satan.
>>17050666You're going to make me watch that shit
>>17050666>... only on Xbox!
>>17050666Lend satan your energy ravens
>>17050898What with the whole thing with Sony's new company policies I want AC6 to be on anything but PlayStation.
>>17050922Yeah, I'll just buy an xbox
>>17050931I hope they release it on PC.
>>17050666I have no hope left Satan just take me already
>>17050796 From Software present.... ....in collaboration with Bandai Namco Entertainment... ...A R M O R E D C O R E 6... ....powered by the technology behind the award winning New Gundam Breaker
>>17050971I'd much rather take an UE4 game than whatever piece of absolute fucking shit From Soft is using for AC
>>17050973So Unreal Engine? There's nothing inherently wrong with Unreal, it's up to the devs, but From Soft doesn't use Unreal.
>>17050982Actually they do now.
>>17050980FPS complaints are a fucking meme
>>17050999You can't be serious.
>>17050999I don't care about the FPS, but I would like to be able to see wtf is happening on screen
>>17050973One Cradle wasn't enough
>blading submarines after shooting down their missiles manuallyAC4 is pretty damn coolI just finished chapter 2 and started chapter 3 after S ranking all the previous missions in Hard mode, I love how this rewards you some tuning points
>>17048952iirc he actually designed a few of the arms forts for them
Do any of you goys in here have autism?
>>17048952>Kobayashi's designs are sexy as fuck but I'm not sure they'd fit AC.You fucking what?
>>17051206>>17051276I can't believe I never made the connection, I guess I'm fucking retarded.
>>17051300Nah, you're good. The main problem is that a ton of info like this is usually left untranslated by the majority of journos and marketing teams. The guys over at MechaDamashii give you that kind of info, but they're just a tiny exception. A shame too since AC would be so much more enjoyable if a lot of the background info was available in English.
Do we still need scans of that AC1 artbook Ravens?
>>17051403>>17051421yes pleasenone of the oldgen artbooks/manuals have been scanned and it's distressing
>>17051300tbf his involvement was pretty minimal; he didn't do much mechanical design beyond what you see in >>17051276 and >>17051312 as iirc he was brought on last minute
Who here would buy Frame Gride: For Answer?
>>17051702“Dude it’s Dark Souls with mechs!”
>>17051702AC fans are so game-deprived that they'd flock to it instantly, quality of the previews be damned. Soulsfags will come because of that "muh From Software genius" mentality. General audiences will come in because the premise would be inherently interesting.Not gonna lie though: I'd seriously appreciate it if a YouTuber like Vaati did lore videos for AC. His voice wouldn't fit too well but at least it'd be nice to see AC lore videos.
Why in the bloody fuck is there no AC equivalent for PC? All PC mecha games are ancient and slow. The last game I remember even being remotely close to AC was ExTeel.Fuck.
Metal Wolf Chaos port soon my good dudes and dudettes.
>>17051771Makes me doubtful of the success an AC would have on PC
>>17051771How was Project Nimbus?
>>17050666post yfw there was nothing
Who else is hoping that this series steers away from ACV and VD? For all the good things they had, altogether they weren't really the best direction for AC. Poor framerates, terrible online netcode, horrible online-only content, DLC, even more imbalanced weapons, a cringeworthy plot about muh depressed womyn who needed to talk about their feelings (and having Tara Strong shoved in, no less. where's the shame?) Literally the best things that came from those two games were:>Fatman>the chief>Ultimate weaponsLiterally everything else could be tossed.
>>17052183>a cringeworthy plot about muh depressed womyn who needed to talk about their feelings (and having Tara Strong shoved in, no less. where's the shame?)Who gives a shit
>>17052185EXACTLY. The series was better off when you were just a merc who shot stuff for money. It didn't need this overarching plot about a chosen one and a "dark raven".
>>17052186What I meant was 'who gives a shit about who is in it'? FromSoftware was never known for profound storytelling. It's giant stompy robits fighting in a shitty world.
>>17052183Things I liked in V>smaller ACs>great, long ass missions>weapon switch (although no back wps is bad)That's it.The english voice acting was so fucking abysmal and embarrassing I just skipped every cinematics, so I couldn't tell you about the plot.I never got VD because I know I'll hate it
>>17052189You get my point perfectly, I see. I could stomach even Tara Strong as long as From remembers their roots, and focuses on stompy bois killing slightly smaller mecha bois.
I would keep kicking from V as well, we need more melee options
>>17052252>The english voice acting was so fucking abysmal and embarrassingChief was fantastic though. I wish we had more of him.
>>17048608>What do you think is taking so long for AC6?Soul's popularity to fade away. Even their spiritual successor to Tenchu plays more like Souls than it does Tenchu because From is nothing but the Souls company now.
>>17052424Play the Batman Arkham games, the same voice actor does Riddler in all of them and kills it. He also plays Kotetsu in the Tiger and Bunny dub.
>>17052493I'm sure Armored Core could take off in popularity if they make an amazing entry.
>>17048448There was this one dude called Champion Champ and used a Core called Killdozer
>>17052186I think you misunderstood VD's plot. You just happened to be really good, and the character you played in V became something of a mythical figure as the exact facts became lost to history. The AI from the Foundation didn't want a repeat of that, so it targeted you in VD.
>>17052183You stupid fucking mong. Maggy's depression about not being able to pilot an AC again mirrors our current situation of not having a new AC to play. It's resonated so much with the Japanese fanbase it's become the biggest AC meme. Armored Core is the place where our souls belong. We would relish the chance to pilot an AC again no matter what we have to do. Magnolia Curtis is LITERALLY /our girl/.
>>17052701Regardless of the plot, 5th gen generally lacks the game functionality of being a mercenary in the single player campaign. It's both extremely limited and not reminiscent of the experience expected from an Armored Core game, which is why it was received poorly.
>>17052701A lot of people seemed to have misunderstood VD's plot. Only the Japs really understood. I wonder what that says about us.
No booly Im new to AC... whats the best game and why do people hate on VD and V ? ;_;
>>17052709>It's resonated so much with the Japanese fanbase it's become the biggest AC meme.I thought Bara Jack-O/弱王 was still the biggest AC meme.But yeah, Maggy is /ourgirl/
>>17052711uh, VD has you doing merc missions for all 3 factions pretty impartially, with a bit of a shift towards fighting the overarching AI at the end. You know, like 3.
Just bought For Answer for 5 euros yesterday (Xbox360 version) and I really like it, are the ones from psx worth the time?
>>17052850All of them have pros and cons. V and VD are the hardest to get into given that they have the most advanced, hard to learn movement mechanics and extra autistic defense mechanics. They also took a departure from standard AC mecha design, and were designed with MP in mind instead of SP. Start with 1, 3, 4, or V if you care about plot, start with anything after Nexus if you can't stand the idea of aiming/moving without analog sticks. If you don't have a PS2, you can emulate the playstation portable games very easily. They're the same mechanically, just graphically downgraded.
>>170528854 and FA are radically different from the AC games before it so you may as well try them out.
>>17052903Thanks anon, which ones of the psx do you recommend?
>>17052917All of them.
>>17052917All of them. AC1 and PP are very short, and Master of Arena is one of the best games in the series with a LOT of extra content.
>>17052903Leave the 4th series for last if you're planing to play the PS1/2 ones, going from AC4 to even AC3 is going to be super brutal, especially when only the last 2 PS2 entries actually started to use both sticks.
>>17052891Alright, thank you!
>>17052934>>17052937Thank you anons!
>>17052850All of them have pros and cons. V and VD are the hardest to get into given that they have the most advanced, hard to learn movement mechanics and extra autistic defense mechanics. They also took a departure from standard AC mecha design, and were designed with MP in mind instead of SP. Start with 1, 3, 4, or V if you care about plot, start with anything after Nexus if you can't stand the idea of aiming/moving without analog sticks. If you don't have a PS2, you can emulate the playstation portable games very easily. They're the same mechanically, just graphically downgraded.>>170529433 is not that hard to get into even after analog controls. Just remap camera to the face buttons.
>>17052949Don't thank me. Thank this.
>>17052547I actually emailed his VA once and he said the producer just told him to use his Riddler voice. Really nice guy.
>>17052850V and VD are mainly designed around team-based PvP, and the skill ceiling is fucking high so people that are only good at PvE (i.e. bad) disliked it.
>>17053258>and the skill ceiling is fucking highThe first game consisted of entire teams running heavy RJs with dual whatever KE weapon was meta at that moment.
>>17052709Fucking hell, this hits hard
>>17051766I wonder if it is possible to create a game that manage to make both fandom happy, specially the AC one, since it could be the most against to the idea
>>17050658What I wonder, is what was his reason to be so angry
>>17052709Then who do I need to backstab and sell my soul for a new game?
>>17053407I would be down for an AC game that is more exploration-based like Dark Souls that lets us take our AC out into a world like Layered and have missions offered to us as we discover more points of interest for the companies. Like if you find a new entrance to an undiscovered set of tunnels, you suddenly get emailed offers from each company to search them, or to kill the Ravens the other companies hired to search them, or to just destroy the entrance so nobody could have them. A more organic flow to the game structure.I think a bigger focus on environmental atmosphere and exploration, finding hidden parts and pieces of the story, and the customization and PVP of Arena matches would be plenty to grab the Souls audience and would give AC fans something new to chew on. Plus Bloodborne shows that the Souls fans are not opposed to faster paced combat, just to console exclusivity
>>17053473I would honestly love that. Pure mission based design has to go, FromSoft clearly knows better today, but don't remove them altogether. They could instead be the equivalent of rpg dungeons you access from a bigger roaming map.I want to see ACs in bigger, longer operations you can find by flying around in a dynamic map in which async multiplayer is activated. Dark Soul style multiplayer with invasion and shit would be perfect for a game as niche as AC (in the west)Basically roam around a big and dangerous open map to find AC parts/weapons/money and kill MTs that are in the way of the ""dungeon"" entrance > rejoin ""dungeons"" you managed to find which are your usual AC missions > the mission finish with a duel against ACs or Arms Forts and they get the iconic souls boss gaugeThe corps are the covenants (obviously). It just works.Give it Gen4 speed and control with Vgen's flight and weapons and gen 3 FCS/build depth and voila, you have an amazing AC game that could get traction among normalfags
>>17053593I don't think a pure open world is the way to go, I would rather have a "hub" Garage that you can take a transport truck, plane or helicopter from to a premade area like in Demons Souls
I would like to see some more non-humanoid AC parts
>>17053671A really wide areaI'd take the approach used in V and expand it. Drop the player in a wide map and give them a general goal with plenty of ways to accomplish it, and pitstops where they can customize their ac.Something like "raven get inside the enemy base and destroy its generators" and we drop the player in the middle of the desert. From there the player needs to scout out the base and search for ways to get inside. They could maybe blast their way through enemy patrols and force their way in, or they could climb a mountain and then use it as a jumping point to land on top of the base, or maybe if the player looks hard enough they could find a secret tunnel
>>17054441I don't really blame him for doing what he did. He got screwed over by the man and decided to take the fight to him. At least he didn't actually kill anyone -- except himself.
>>17054455>>17054441Two sides to a story, apparently he was offered a good deal but turned it down, and then he went down the road of madness. Not entirely the flawless hero fighting against the man, just an old guy not quite right in the head who didn't make the best decisions.
>>17053281That was because Bamco refused to release the week 1 balance patch JP got for two fucking months. Also the meta has little to do with skill you fucking retard.
>>17053281Man this definitely supports my idea that people who hate ACV just got fucking dunked on the first time they tried the multiplayer and decided the game sucks.
>>17054718Or maybe the piss poor publishing job that Bamco did killed the game before it could get anywhere because they gave zero shits about its success, and were more interested in cashing in on more Souls games made by From.
>>17054718That's such a dumb generalization.
>>17054961Did you get dunked on?
>>17054646The point is ACV was a broken mess so what fucking skill are you talking about? Why are people proud that they were good at a broken game and blame everyone else that they just weren't good enough to play it correctly? I don't get it.
>>17054718>"It's the players' fault V wasn't a success in the west!"Jesus christ, even FA babies aren't this delusional. I put more time into V and VD than any other PS3 game but I'm not going to pretend like it's the fault of people who didn't like it that the game performed poorly.
>>17048422Accept it OP, we're not getting AC6.
Just started Silent Line and it's the peak so far. With the exception of 2, which I just couldn't get into, this series improves game after game
>>17055200Because once they fixed it it was good and VD's launch and patch support wasn't nearly as bad?
>>17055207Maybe you're not delusional but you're certainly a retard if that's what you took away from that post.
>>17055271No it still wasn't good after the patch and even if it was by that time it was too little too late because the game couldn't bring in anyone new and people already put it on blast because of the crap release as seen in the steep decline of people that picked up Verdict Day. If the mechanics were solid people would still be playing it to this day regularly as a sleeper cult hit, which they're not and don't blame it on it's not being supported by the devs. Metal Gear Online 2 got resurrected by it's community because they loved the gameplay. Verdict Day's servers are still up and you can barely get a match on it unless you schedule it with another player. Face it, the mechanics are fundamentally flawed, good idea poor execution. It's fine to like a game, but defend it for the right reasons.
>>17055399Fuck off, retard, stop pretending the JP servers to ACVD aren't still active and that anyone who is actually invested in the series doesn't have a JP copy of ACVD.
>>17055160No, I did great. But you could get a match once in a blue moon.
>>17055421So it's a problem with Bamco's poor support bottlenecking the player base and not the game?
>>17055411I'm not pretending shit, I've seen how barren your servers are. Stop blaming other players for not liking what you like, blame the game for being a crap online experience. You have no stock in the fucking companies, you're not being sponsored especially after FromSoft canceled that service, so why the hell are you adamantly defending it? >Muh JPYou're just proving my point further by still supporting that stupid elitist attitude from 6 years ago. Let it go.
>>17055426Man you sound like a fucking retard. Weren't we talking about the skill ceiling a while ago? So why are you now talking about the barren server anyway? Just kill yourself already.
>>17055215We don't deserves it.
>>17055428I'm not that guy. I'm saying ACV has no skill involved at all because it's fundamentally broken at it's core. How the fuck can consider yourself be skilled at a broken game? That's DSP levels of retard.
>>17055433Because it wasn't broken once they fixed the meta, you retard.Please explain how it was fundamentally broken.
>>17055438The game... is a fucking DPS race. The only thing that matters is how much damage you do in the shortest amount of time to win. Sure movement and positioning has a factor, but it's still outclassed by builds that favor high DPS on high damage weapons. The rock paper scissor defenses are broken because they limit the speed of the build because they're fucking tied to weight class for some fucking reason. Scan mode shouldn't have been a requirement to fucking move properly. The list goes on and I'm tired of saying this to people till I'm blue in the face. You guys seem to not be able to imagine this game beyond what it currently is. I don't see any reason why "getting gud" at using these crap mechanics is considered skill.
>>17055450He's just going to say you're too retarded to understand the mechanics.
>>17055450>I don't see any reason why "getting gud" at using these crap mechanics is considered skill.Because people like the gameplay WHOA HOLY SHIT CAN YOU IMAGINE WANTING TO GET BETTER AT WHAT YOU ENJOY OH MY GOD I'M FUCKING DYING HERE AT THIS REALIZATION
>>17055456You are retarded though, just in general.
>>17055430>We don't deserve it.The state of this thread is proof enough of that.
>>17055468Yeah, I know, I wouldn't have guessed there'd be this many retards around.
>>17055457As long as you realize what you enjoy is garbage. I don't think people who're good at Sailor Moon say they're skilled in fighting games.
>>17055475Go eat a fucking dick. You don't get to decide what's garbage for others, you stupid piece of shit.
>>17055477Thanks for proving how childish you are.
>>17055479Thanks for proving how childish you are.Nyeh nyeh nyeh nyeh nyeh.You eating that dick yet, faggot?
>>17055450movement and positioning is the main factor behind the DPS race, which is why defense types are tied to weight classes
>>17055423From should have known there was very little chance that most of their multiplayer modes wouldn't work outside of japan.
So anons which is your favourite cover art ac?
>>17055552From can maybe be blamed for releasing a broken game but Bamco's refusal to provide adequate service or cross region multiplayer is not their fault
>>17055200As opposed to the SP-focused games with horribly unbalanced weapons? Balance patches need to happen for online games, it's retarded to hold that against one.
>>17055399>niche genre game that's not easy to pick up with split servers and released close to a huge title and like GTA V is dead-ish in the WestIMAGUN MAH SHOCK>>17055450>it's a DPS raceSo like literally every Armored Core game, you stupid fuck?
>>17055450I'm not gonna bother defending V of all things, but this is wrong, one of the most fun I had with the game was to reckt people with stagger light builds. You could also trap people with install kill stakes, snipe shit before anyone else reach your team, etc It's much less about DPS than older gen ACs, it's the AC game that reward good strategy and positioning the most, by far>The rock paper scissor defenses are broken because they limit the speed of the build because they're fucking tied to weight class for some fucking reason. Scan mode shouldn't have been a requirement to fucking move properlyThis is absolutely true though
>>17055229What about the game makes it an improvement over the rest to you?
>got to AC4 chapter 3 (this plot is going nowhere man)>Find out killing Nexts is pretty hard especially on hard mode>decide to made a new build specifically for killing nexts>it works much better, but it's pretty shit for clearing out large armies with it nowFucking based.This is good because you can't get away with easily killing enemy Nexts with just your normal AC made for missions/killing MTs like I could in AC3/SL or V, you have to chooseSo I'm liking the PA mechanic (and it's fucking beautiful in action). It's also making choosing generators much more difficult when you have to their KP output into account as well, since the one with the highest EN output as shit KP output, etc
The defense system in V/VD is agreed complete ass, though I like that shields are actually useful I have to admit even though I'm not good at it, the V gen has the best PVP in the series. It's a shame it didn't come to PC because it might still have an active community outside of Japan
>>17055450One of the strongest builds in VD (especially in 1v1) is approximately the lowest DPS in the game, you fucking retard. The standard merc team meta was still rifles, which are still pretty much in the absolute middle of the DPS spectrum but were chosen because they don't get hard countered or fucked by map selection.If you want to complain about 1v1 the game was never balanced for it.>>17055475People who are good at fighting games win at Sailor Moon S.
>>17055561tied between white glint and the one from 2
>>17056317You don't need an MT-killer build in 5th gen, just kick everything to death.
>>17055561It's just THE Armored Core for me, perfect look
>>17056312It's hard to say, the game just feels way smoother to play. It might be a placebo that it feels smoother because as I've played I've gotten better. I really like the story of the Layered as well, it reminds me of Blame!
How would you rate 2/AA?
I saw this in another thread, so I figured I'd ask here:What WAS the intention of the Controller in AC3? And what purpose did IBIS serve in Silent Line? Their directives seem to contradict. If they existed to make humans want to rebel against a controlling overlord and not just be content, why did they nearly murder their entire population? And why did IBIS actually succeed? You'd think they would've dialed it back before causing a major human extinction.
>>17057611I assumed the controller was actually just malfunctioning and that humanity wasn't meant to reach the surface. Just looj at what happens in Nexus. Clearly it would have been better to stay underground
>>17057611>If they existed to make humans want to rebel against a controlling overlord and not just be content, why did they nearly murder their entire population? It didn't even come close to annihilating the population. The Controller just took increasingly drastic measures to make the population revel against it because the leading corporations were willing to accept their destruction at the hands of The Controller.IBIS' own Layered society wasn't ready for the surface yet and they weren't driven to extinction. It's programmed to fight against the first Layered to test their capabilities before entrusting its population to the new surface society.
>>17057814When is an A.I. in Armored Core ever malfunctioning?
>>17057814>I assumed the controller was actually just malfunctioningThe Controller knew exactly what it was doing, it was a massive supercomputer with multiple nodes and all kinds of safety measures in order to keep its main directives intact.Its primary objective was the preservation of Layered's humans, which meant not letting them go onto the surface since mankind can't be trusted when left on its own,You end up destroying it because a lot of people are tired of staying canned up inside Layered and want to disrupt the status quo for multiple reasons depending on their affiliation, the Controller was pretty much a janitor, and just like a janitor it also fought back against the people who went against its directives.As for IBIS, its purpose was the same, but it took a different route, after 3's Layered broke down and humans began to roam the surface again it wanted to see whether it was finally time to go back to the surface, and if there was somebody out there strong enough to lead and protect other humans, which is why it begins to infiltrate various powerstations and bombard the surface with orbital cannons.Neither of those were malicious, the difference between the two is that the Controller didn't have sufficient evidence for humans being ready to abandon Layered and IBIS needed further evidence.
Why did the ost collection didn't included the frequency albums?>tfwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dILzFdsWg1s&index=3&list=PLXP-0dK0eHWFNvk01XFPKYTozgdw6VCnn
>>17058228technically not AC tracks
>>17058247But there is stardust on the 20 disck
>>17058948Stardust was used in the ACFA PV, so it counts as AC music.
>>17059090Really? How did I miss that PV
>>17059586how are these always so good
*blocks your path*
>>17060133>Raven, we're entering the age of fatso
How do I do quick turns in AC4? I randomly do them sometimes and can't understand how
>>17061220While in midair, let the left stick in neutral position and quick boost while turning the camera. Basically left stick + quick boost overrides right stick + quickboost.
>>17048613Hari got cucked pretty bad too, but we are not filled in on the details.
So for the PS2 games do you want the lock speed stat to be lower or higher? I can't remember if it represented a blanket rating or if it was the number of frames it takes to get a lock
>>17062013The higher the better.
>>17062013Look at the bar/color, not the number.
>want to get into ACV>second mission>hear Tara Strong as both liasons >throw it in the garbageWhat was From THINKING?
>>17062129You may have autism.
>>17062129yeah I think you're autistic
>>17062135Exactly one minute apart, did I just unconsciously samefag?
Would you trade AC6 for a sequel to Frame Gride?
>>17062140No anon we just spoke the truth>>17062191No but I'd still be ecstatic if we got either of them
>>17062191is it worth a try?
>>17062191To be fair, I'd like AC to adopt Frame Gride's melee and loadout system.If you've ever played it you can see it's pretty much a slightly more polished and repurposed MoA focused on arena fights and with a bit less stat fuckery, even the parts loadout is almost identical to AC, outside of swords and the likes being a back weapon.
>>17051771there was a local tripfag working on something but I haven't heard much of it
>>17063946That person's working on a game toolkit, not an actual game.
>>17062191question: if Frame Gride were to return should it keep the fighting game format or switch to a single player campaign format?
>>17055450actually most of the dps guns suck ass now and your problem probably was that you expected to be fine just trigger holding and got destroyed. if dps was all it took, everybody would be sitting on a team of 4 tanks. the only places where that may happen is the one really shitty map that's basically just a flat surface without cover to utilize. most good setups are much more about burst damage, especially when compared to what most pre 4th gen matches devolve into - boost hopping and holding triggers.weight classes being tied to defenses is fine because golly, imagine this, you can have core, arms and head that balance out your legs defenses. you dont need to build the way retarded npc enemies are built. yes, you will have to make sacrifices and be vulnerable to certain guns depending on what you use. no, it's not a case of triple defense system-based rock paper scissors unless you build like a moron.lastly, "defenses limit the speed of the build and that is bad" sounds incredibly fucking stupid. are you saying that how tanky you are shouldnt be correlated to your speed in any way?the only leg class that got fucked were hrjs, cause they got nerfbatted to fuck.
>>17063969>switch to a single player campaign format?So Dark Souls with Dunbine-esque mecha?
>>17064091Pretty much. I was thinking more Broken Blade in terms of mecha design, but Dunbine works too.
>>17064091I'd be down
>>17063988I think what's he saying is that you still have to build your AC depending on the defense balance instead of just the parts' performance alone like we used to before, and it's true that it's annoying. iirc you couldn't do a pure light build that's focused on EN defense, for example (or even balanced defenses)What should have been done instead:>1 AP value for parts like usual>1 overall defense values per parts, let's call them Defense Points>You assign defense types FREELY for the entire build, the combined overall Defense Points can be assigned to any type of defenses you prefer, so heavier builds can use more points to get more defensesThere, I just fixed gen 5 a little bit.
>>17064417>corporations reeeeeeI wonder who could be behind this mail.
>>17064191I actually came to the same conclusion to fix the system. Now I'm keeping it for my own projects cause fuck trying to revive the entirety of Gen 5.
>>17064191>you couldn't do a pure light build that's focused on EN defense, for exampleThe weapons are designed and balanced around that too though. Like fatso doesn't instantly die to ultra burst weapons like laser rifles and lights don't get completely shredded by low power machinegun or ranged shotgun spray fire. If someone gets in on you with short range EN weapons or lands that Karasawa shot on a lightweight that's wall kicking all over the place at sanic speed they deserve to get all that damage and if heavyweights were stacking KE you wouldn't even have enough ammo to kill them.
Also an important factor in ACV is because scouting for enemy armour types is huge (SCAN MODO) they made a point of correlating AC silhouettes with defense types.
gonna emulate Silent Line. What am I in for lads
>>17064785PPSSPP or PS2 emulation? It's fun but I would strongly recommend beating 3 first to transfer a save.
I've been reading up on the ending of 4fa (I've only played 4 but wanted to see how everything turned out) and, if I'm reading this right, the implication of Otsdarva being Thermidor is that both the League Path and the ORCA path end the same way - with the Cradles getting blown out of the sky, and ORCA was only being used as a fall guy by the League so that they had someone to pin the deaths on. So the only path that actually changes anything is the Destruction path?Am I reading too much into this?
>>17064807Nah, you've pretty much got the gist of things, except that the League path ends with the Cradles not getting blown out of the sky because (You) and Wynne derail the plan. It's very likely that even in that ending that the Cradles will eventually be grounded, though.
>>17048639This picture looks very Kawamori ish
>>17064790PS2That's the better version right?Does it emulate okay?>>17064807Depends on how you interpret the limited information given. I always assumed that the League path ends with them just postponing the closed planOrca path ends with the closed plan kicking off immediately The difference between the two is how long it takes for humanity to get into space and how much is left for the people on Earth to clean upDestruction path ends with everyone dying sure but I always imagined that it ended with the rich escaping Earth just to get out of Strayeds crosshairs
>>17064816Destruction Path Strayed most likely lacks the logistic support to continue his rampage for very long, anyway, so he was likely killed before he could kill everyone.
>>17064812Ah, okay I was wondering what would happen if the League didn't have ORCA to actually crash the Cradles.>>17064816That was going to be next question. I wasn't quite sure what implications of the Destruction path had given that Strayed decided to actually eliminate the Cradles personally, and how that was different than any of the other endings barring a few more dead Lynx in the pile.
>>17064816>That's the better version right?PSP has more parts and arena fights.
>>17064833The difference is that not everyone on the Cradles is going to die in the ORCA path, only the sickly who can't handle the Kojima contamination on the surface. It will still result in a large number of deaths, but cutting the power to the Cradles and forcing them to make an emergency landing is a much more humane method than just blowing them out of the sky.
>>17064829Strayed could easily intimidate mechanics and ammo resupply, or just run laser blades. He's implied to be so good in that ending that he wouldn't even really need repairs now that all the good Lynx are out of the picture, and a single NEXT could easily bring down all of the Cradles with a permaflight build.>>17064833I think the Closed plan would lead to a more "fail gracefully" Cradles falling scenario, whereas having all of your engines destroyed brings you down with way more casualties. Regardless, people eventually fucked off into space, given that we see launch towers housing 4th gen tech in VD.
>>17064838but crappier controlsPPSSPP makes it sorta better though if you key bind it right.
>>17064845Those mechanics could also sabotage Strayed, and outside of gameplay mechanics, even laser blades aren't going to last forever before they become useless because of a lack of maintenance. Strayed's Lynx is also a fleshbag which means he's got to eat and sleep, which leaves him vulnerable. Strayed may be a one man army, but he's still just one man.
>>17064833They all likely lead into 5th gen. >league pathKojima radiation everywhere, cradle system collapses, the rich escape>orca pathThe corporations escape and the poor are left to fend for themselves. Earth gets even more messed up after they leave behind kojima radiation from shooting out the assault cells >desturction pathStrayed shoots down all the cradles, the rich all either escape or die trying, and Strayed soaks the earth in kojima particles, creating the pollution in V
Is there a way to get regulations for AC4? I decided to play it again but I'm on a different PS3 and Sega isn't hosting the regulations anymore, and playing on 1.00 sucks.
>>17064845>He's implied to be so good in that ending that he wouldn't even really need repairs now that all the good Lynx are out of the pictureAnatolia's mercenary is still alive and Line Ark was trying to put together a new NEXT for him. Maybe he was the one who finally put an end to Strayed's rampage.
>>17064869He is? Source?
I'm amazed how natural the dpad feels after about 2 games of AC. I thought I'd never be able to play with it
>>17065325It's weird, isn't it? Even in Silent Line, I still use the D-Pad on instinct. I think the stick controls in that game are kinda wonky anyways.
>>17065339It seems as though they just emulate the dpad instead of being an actual stick
>>17064866I'm stuck on 1.00 too. How bad is it compared to the later regulations?
>>17065339It has to do with the turn rate of the parts. In newer ones you don't even had to care about turn rates, you can just turn boost in AC4 or drift in ACV./vg/ thread died, so I'm glad a discussion is being held here in /m/. Mech games really on it's way to extinction,
>>17066552Well hosting a thread on /vg/ became more of a pain in the ass then it has ever been. And, we pretty much talked about everything under the sun, so now we just wait patiently for AC6 news. I think it's better that the thread moved here.I got tired of bumping all day.
>>17064814Cuz it is
>>17062191I only accept glorious designs from Vanguard Bandits, or at least Knights and Magic.>>17055450unless you're talking about the dark times of UGH/10 gattling guns on HRJ, the game takes more amount of skill compared to previous games since you need to use terrains. ACV is superior to ACVD, the only problem was the generator regen and access to TE weapons. ACVD fucking turned the TE damage race up to eleven and funny people start to run high cap generator on shoot plasma balls on permaflight AC. ACVD is far worse, though generator regen was buffed, this led people go for burst damage with pilebunkers on lightweight (that needs skills but incredibly oneshot bullshit) and 4shot sawa on float peek-a-boo build that shits you 30k damage from 1k range. But there is always a counterplay, and prepare your team to deal with certain popular builds. LRJ sniper builds, KE missile builds, pulseguns. Brainlets in EN server didn't face stupid shit in JP, so they think their dual Tansy rifle and missiles can provide the same winning possibilities in every game. Diversity build exists in ACV/ACVD. You just didn't adapt to what people tend to go for. The real problem with ACVD was the fucking framerate, and the map design. Fuck the snow map where everyone can take potshots from miles away.Now go back to ACFA and play lagblading P2P connection all day long chump. Or play the older titles in "tourneys" consisting turnrate fiestas taking potshots off your rifle, which watching paint dry might even give a better entertainment value.
Am I missing something? Of course a pvp game is a DPS race, you have to outdamage your opponent before they kill you.
>>17067619dumb excuses made by people who can't play at even a normal competitive level for why they're not shit at the game
>>17048422I don't get this meme.Which one am I again? Left or right?Because both look pretty cool
>>17067617Your game is dead, it's never going to be replicated or even continued in the series, when the servers shut down that's it for you. No one will fucking miss you guys when you inevitably move on because you can't use all the "skill" you built up in the next title.
Man, multiplayer fag manchilds are the worst. I hope AC6 has no multiplayer option whatsoever.
>>17068077Left is a guy bolted to wheels, right is a guy bolted to a 20-ish meter tall poison-spewing permaflight NEXT.
>>17068105>>17068113lmao you kids are just trashhow mad can you beit's fine if you never got good at a game you don't like, that's naturaljust don't spout stupid shit when you obviously don't know what you're talking about
>>17068155>immediately assume people are mad "cuz' they bad!"Case in point.
>>17068105But learning to adapt to something new does carry over.
>>17068105when this is the only response you have to a gameplay argument you can really see where the salt piles up
>>17068153It may be taller, but it looks lanky and brittle as shit. At least the guy on the left looks like a Chad.
>>17068160>>17068166>>17068155and none of what you guys said disputes that your game is dead and apparently you blame the players for it's unpopularity. There is no discussion to be had here. Sitting back and doing nothing hurts you more than it hurts me.
>>17068218keep telling yourself that
>>17068218Well, it's a hard game in a niche genre that's different from previous entries, was poorly handled by its publisher, and has split servers, expecting it to be alive on the non-nippon servers would be delusional.
Once again I bought a hover type leg just for a 10 seconds mission
>>17068218No we blame you for being the reason you're a whiny little bitch about a game that was neither dead nor unpopular.Like literally every fucking room I can even remember playing in ACfA had Japanese players in it, that game was dead as fuck in the west too. Armored Core period is dead as fuck in the west, what does that say about all of you?
>arena battle comes up against a light AC that's apparently fast>bring small left arm handgun with insane heat damage>poor light AC couldn't move or attack at all after a single shot of the handgun>obviouslycouldn't evade my absolute barrage of lasers going on at the same timeOh, so this is how you break Nexus.
>>17068340handguns have always been surprisingly powerful weapons in duel settings
>>17068340The cluster missiles (the one that rains bombs from above) will also shutdown AC to standstill. Radiator parts need to make a comeback.
Reminder anyone that uses "manchild" is just seething. %100 of people I've met that use that term are always mad at someone for doing something they enjoy
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>>17069292All are as you're thinking over...
Now that 2018 is coming to a close, what is your prediction on when will AC6 be announced in 2019? Sekiro is around March so my best bet is at Sony or Activision E3.
>>17069323PS5 launch title. I think late 2019 or early 2020.
new game whennnnnnnnnnnnnnn
>>17069346>Literally all of them are called Armored Core: Subtitle>Except for SL
>>17069323There is no Sony E3
>>17069337God I hope there will be a pc version
>>17069346>tfw only got Silent Line left before I finish all the games that aren't nine breaker or formula front
>>17068190Well yeah, it's designed with maneuverability in the air first and foremost. Fragile is super annoying to fight because he just zips around constantly.
>>17069346hey boy i think you're missing some games
>>17069359Is amazing in a way
>>17051107But you take 5 cradles on a single mission
>>17050630A post was deleted? What did I miss?
>>17069323Well new From Software VR game has tons of absolutely shameless references to new game in Bloodborne universe. But yeah pretty sure AC6 will be PS5 title. PS4 time is over.
>>17070603get 4chanx already you peasant>>17070628I can't believe AC skipped a generation entirely. Fuck Soulsfags.
>>17070638Why do you blame other games? What the point in this artificial "fanbase" war? I don't see why AC has more merits than souls games. Should I start posting "Fuck ACfags" after AC6 release? Or maybe fuck ACVfags? After all only AC4 and For Answer are real AC games for real man
>>17070628Honestly, I hope so. AC5 was really late in the generation, and I'd hate to see AC6 be a latecomer as well. I'd much rather it hold off and be a PS5 title, hopefully PC as well for once.
>>17070648Because even if it's a good thing that FromSoft grew up and honestly became a better developer due to Soul's success, that series is the reason why AC is dead. Resources and time isn't infinite, and every Soulshit game developed was one less opportunity for Armored Core to come back.So hell yes it isn't artificial, it's 100% real, AC skipped a generation due to Souls games, there's no denying this. Go ahead and say "Fuck ACfags" if you prefer soulshit no one will actually do this because everyone is fatigued from this type of gameplay, but it's very obvious that FromSoft just completely forgot about their traditions as soon they found the Soulshit money and I find it utterly pathetic. Especially when the Armored Core staff got laid off.It would have much more beneficial for everyone if From skipped DS2 at least and made a good AC game in between say Bloodborne and DS3. Even for the soulsfags who then wouldn't have to deal with more franchise fatigue or the awful DS2And yes fuck V even if it was very good.
>>17070659Games are clearly more expensive now tho. They made tons of them on PS3. But on PS4 we have BB ex, small Deracine VR game, Sekiro, DS3 and b-team DS2 port.>Go ahead and say "Fuck ACfags" if you prefer soulshit I prefer both. Also you forgot about KF. Technically KF fags have all rights to hate ACshit and soulshit
>>17070659DS2 (especially by Scholar) was fucking good, you pleb. Get some taste or git gud.>>17070638What generation did it skip? Unless you just meant nothing for the current shit; there's AC games on PS1 through 3.If you want to be irrationally pissed off at someone, blame Kadokawa. They acquired From back in 2014, and afterwards that's when they started being all souls all the time.
>>17070673>DS2 (especially by Scholar) was fucking good
>>17070673>DS2 (especially by Scholar) was fucking goodNo>What generation did it skipthe PS4 obviously you dummy
>>17070721>>17070752>t. DS3 babbies that need their hands held
>>17071216I played vanilla 2, it was not great at launch. Patches and SOTFS definitely made it good, though. Shrine of Amana still brings up some PTSD. It introduced a lot of quality of life features and other neat ideas, I miss lifegems and the SOFTS torch.
>>17071216>Buttblasted DS2 nigger thinking his janky, low effort garbage requires any sort of skillYour inferiority complex towards DS3 is the stuff of legend, not a single day goes by that you people histerically seethe about DS3.DS2 is the DS equivalent of Nexus, a mediocre game that is only remembered for the amount of content(most of it shit) and introducing mechanics that were only made functional by its successors.
>>17070673>DS2 (especially by Scholar) was fucking goodScholar was trash that doubled down on the retarded enemy placement and fixed none of the core problems of DS2 and the DLCs are all overhyped as fuck, they're mostly garbage besides a few decent bosses and setpieces.>b-but DS3Also blows, letting Scamco get involved was a mistake. DeS, the first half of DS1, and BB are all you need.
>>17071234Why do people dislike nexus?
>>17071216I didn't even play it.
>>17071516I liking it right now but the heat system is a bit crazy.
Why the fuck are you idiots blaming From Soft and Kadokawa when it's fucking Bamco that was clearly trying to kill the series. From probably had to fight tooth and nail with them to even push out ACV/VD and them Bamco pissed it all down the drain and sabotaged the games with rushed localization and poor post-launch support. Get your facts right before pointing fingers you idjits. Miyazaki even all but said Bamco was the one blocking a new AC game from coming out.
>>17071966yeah recent interviews clearly illustrate how much they've wanted to keep the franchise going; I don't get the bitterness
>>17071516Long but mediocre campaign, introduced a lot of general rebalancing and new mechanics like the new heat system and none of it works well, the game is even more easy and unbalanced than AC3, which is already hilariously easy.Pretty much the only saving grace about Nexus outside of the admittedly amazing OST and the large number of parts are the Revolution discs, which are pretty much a bunch of DLC missions, most of those being reenactments of old iconic missions from the first and second gen AC games, oh and it's directly tied to Last Raven in terms of plot, so there's that.Outside of Genobee nobody even remembers anyone from Nexus, hell most of its cast is remembered because of their Last Raven appearances and roles.
All you KFfags, Soulfags and ACfags are forgetting about the most hard done by fan of From, office productivityfags
>>17071966If that were true then why did most of the AC team get laid off after VD tanked? Was that Bamco's doing too?
>>17072359>KFfagsIs that actually a thing? Even after Souls got big I only saw a couple people pulling the King's Field card.Now Eternal Ring, that's where its at, am I right /m/?
>>17072458I imagine literally every KFfags is just a pretentious Soulsfag who wanted something obscure to latch onto. Meanwhile us EvergraceChads know the real score
>>17072429https://www.gamespot.com/articles/dark-souls-3-interview-this-is-a-turning-point-for/1100-6429569/>With regards to Armored Core, there are several barriers that From Software as a whole needs to overcome in order to give new games to the fans. If the fans out there really want that, I suggest contacting Bandai Namco.Most likely.
>>17072518So in other words they gave up the rights to one of their oldest series to Bamco just so V and VD would get madeFrom is dead
Damn the threads already over
>>17072520From Software whored themselves out to any publisher who was willing to fund them. First it was agetech, then when agetech was about to go under From was saved from bankruptcy by SEGA, who let them go only to be caught by Ubisoft, then Bandai-Namco, and now Activision.They've stayed afloat working on games by latching onto the teat of anyone who was willing to fund them, and that has always been their way. What's wrong with that as long as they get to make games and we get to play them?
>>17072524That's pretty mercenary-like
>>17071966We need to burn down bamco
>>17072468There's been a small diehard KF fanbase since the PS1 days, they're still out there hiding, biding their time.>Evergrace I picked up this up for pennies like a decade ago, I need to get around to playing it one day. I just know the soundtrack is peak Hoshino madness.
>>17072579The shop theme in Evergrace has like 3 separate audio tracks running simultaneously. The game is pretty interesting too, very odd combat system and a really strange atmosphere that becomes comfy after a while
>>17072537that explain why AC never abandoned the mercenary thing, with all those games, you would expect a game where you werent a merc, even if just for a change
>>17072993Maybe that'll change since From got bought by Kadokawa
>>17073573Miyazaki said Kadokawa is very hands free and that no changes have been made to their development schedule as of being bought.
>>17072993ACV only really had you be a mercernary for like the first mission. After that you stuck with the resistance for the rest of the story
>>17074425You're working freelance in the Order missions until you start getting targeted
>>17074356Until they start losing money that is
>>17074662what's your fucking point you retard
>>17074709I dunno man, I keep seeing horror stories about any game companies under Kado. Already forgot about the Komono Friend controversy? If the entire company is like that, oh boy.
Any tips for AC III ? I'm having a hard time with the controls since I only played LR
>>17074776Get the high attack power machine gun Win
>>17074777It's pretty good, but won't ammo costs be an issue?
>>17074792Not really, you get bank in 3 compared to the older ones. 3 and SL are pretty chilled out, I wouldn't stress about anything in them
>>17074776AC3 is a lot more sluggish than LR, well, pretty much everything but NB is, you better get used to it.On the other hand, you shit energy so you can boost and fly all you want compared to LR, and most weaponry is broken, machineguns and flamethrowers especially.
Could someone please upload their x360 acfa 1.4 regulations file and its file path?