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Are there men out there that actually want to settle down and build a life with a tranny?
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>>12472355
no
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>>12472355
Very few that would go out of their way for it.
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>>12472355
There are probably men out there who don't really care about some things like children and so on.
There are a surprising amount of childless marriages out there, and I've seen a lot of them firsthand. Heck, the UK Prime Minister has been in a childless marriage to her husband for decades.
There are guys who are just interested in a romantic partner and nothing else, really.
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That would be a very bad idea considering the rampant AGP and transbianism of tranners.
One night stands? Sure who gives a fuck.
Marriage? It will blow up eventually when the tranner decides
>oh shit I'm into women
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Unfortunately, no. The pool of stable, high-quality and long-term minded men has basically no intersection with the pool of men interested in trans woman.

>>12472387
You're completely wrong, lots of trans women are androphilic at their deepest levels.
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>>12472401
I would hardly count 10% of >1% as a lot
and even that sweeping minority are hypersexual HSTS that have no interest in long lasting relationships
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Not specifically. I would do it. So kinda?

>>12472387
go away ray
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>>12472417
You could start by cutting out this transphobic and pseudoscientific Ray Blanchard bullshit
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yes me
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>>12472387
trans women were raised to think being into women is the norm. if they got past that and started dating men odds are they're not going back to women. transbians almost always start out being into women and stay that way.
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>>12472401
>lots of trans women are androphilic at their deepest levels
Speaking as a trans woman, I can say you're completely wrong. I'm a walking example of a gynephilic trans woman who is absolutely repulsed by all men in general and have no attraction to them. No words and counterarguments are going to invalidate my identity or my very own existence.
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>>12472435
so you DO admit what the statistics already show
that the vast majority of tranners are man hating #killallmen transbians
the why in the name of Blanchard should any cis guy even consider dating you?
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>>12472456
>Doesn't understand the meaning of "lots of"

Also you probably are one of those AGP heterosexual men who just has a lot of internalized misandry
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>>12472467
because trans women who date guys aren't transbians?
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>>12472467
Because Transgirls are so cute!
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>>12472478
every 2 fucking days we have threads of the
>I have been dating my bf for x amount of time but I am beginning to realiaze I am actually a transbian because y reasons
kind
in short tranners who date guys and are not HSTS are simply transbians with a feminization fetish and the dick just fulfills that for them
once that looses its luster they move on their ACTUAL purely gynephilic sexuality
tranners never have bfs
just self sustaining temporal dildos
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>>12472355
sure as long as she doesn't get her junk inverted or regress back. im pretty sure with the whole mgtow thing going on more and more dudes have been less inclined to get married and have kids in general though. the idea of settling down and building a life with someone is pretty outdated.
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>>12472474
I can make absurd assumptions too. I bet that you are the hypersexual, slutty type of gay man who couldn't be content with living as a regular gay man, and you decided to change genders so you could trick straight men into sleeping with you without disclosing that you are in fact a gay man dressed up as a girl who chases after unsuspecting cishet men. Vile perverts like you only get yourselves killed in the end.
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>>12472497
stop thinking with your dick and start thinking objectively
if you just wonna sleep around then noone cares not even the fetishistic transbian herself
but how in the name of fuck are you gonna make a serious relationship work out when your partner hates you on an existential level you daft idiot?
you won't
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>>12472515
Cis dude here, desu there aint anything wrong with that. A HSTS is actually relationship material, AGP is just fucking larping as a girl wanting to be with other girls
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>>12472515
Yeah those are absurd assumptions. I'm actually a trans woman whose ultimate dream is to be a trad wife for a brave and strong man, and who thinks abstinence before marriage and life-long monogamy are good things.
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>>12472506
Who hurt you?
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As a slave to me and me wife, yeah.
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>>12472542
Nice delusional self-internalized homophobic fantasy you got going there, but no. You are in fact a homosexual man who is in complete denial of reality and suppressing your own sexuality. You imagine a fictional world where you can pretend to be a straight women in your head, so you don't have to confront your own sexual identity crisis. This form of escapism is a very dangerous and poor method of coping skills that can lead to further misery down the future. All because you couldn't accept and be happy simply living as an open gay man. Pathetic and sad!

t. actual trans woman here who is fucking sick of your HSTS bullshit trying to appropriate gender dysphoria and the trans narrative
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>>12472628
rawr >:3
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>>12472522
Good thing it doesn't work like that
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>>12472355
Lmao fuck no
the best you'll get is a chaser who'd fuck and chuck you, or use you for transition advice
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>>12472634
are all chasers this stupid?
yes this is exactly how it works
but don't let me stop you
go marry a transbian
see how that works out for you
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>>12472643
no thanks, i'll just date a non-transbian trans girl
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>>12472675
>i'll just date a non-transbian trans girl
You won't do shit let's be honest
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>>12472675
almost all of them are either openly transbians or secretly transbians
bisexuality in tranners is a meme from tranbians that don't won't to associate themselves with the creepiest parts of transbian culture but even they crack in the end
she ain't gonna love you or even like you to begin with you NEED to realize this singular fact
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>>12472679
lighten the fuck up
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>>12472695
get a load of this guy
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>>12472628
As a cis guy i’d rather date that person than your bitter cancerous ass lol you mad that looking at your peepee makes you cry?
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>>12472695
would you be so kind as to post a selfie so we know what we're dealing with here?
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>>12472695
This is the true trans red pill. Almost all chasers are bluepilled incels who would gladly fuck anything that moved, even Chris Chan if he consented to it.
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>>12472699
you are a dense self deluded fool John
and you will fuck your own self over one of these days and to your lament you will have noone else but yourself to blame
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>>12472695
Please tell me, how did you come to this conclusion? i need to know
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>>12472709
nope
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>>12472526
>>12472705
Gay men defending other gay men. That's cute, but I don't care. Get the fuck away from real trans people, you depraved sodomizing perverts.
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>>12472355
Yeah, I'm bi and don't want kids. Want to raid a home depot, run off into the woods, build a house from the wood and mud around us, grow and hunt for our food, and live the rest of our lives writing sword and sorcery stories together?
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>>12472434
clown world honk honkler 14/88
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>>12472715
this is what a trans incel sounds like
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>>12472727
Hey go look at a mirror. You’ll never be a girl, you have a dick and you are just a delusional man dressed as a woman. Enjoy being a future statistic on the suicide charts
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>>12472355
no, the only way is to have a long term relationship going before you come out, then you have a chance
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>>12472727
i swear only the ugly ones say shit like this...
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>>12472710
'Tis better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all.
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>>12472776
tis better to love and be loved back you naive overemotional self destructive fool
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>>12472796
Stop it i'll cry :'(
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>>12472355
I've met a couple. Only thing you need is a guy that doesn't want kids.
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>>12472829
Or already has them
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>>12472812
jest all you want
you are on a path of ruin layed upon by your own design
if you are too blind to see that then there is no hope for you
don't come back with questions that have already been answered in this thread when it all blows up in your face
just accept the fact that you fucked up because you didn't listen and move on
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>>12472355
God. I hope so.
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>>12472355
Would want to do this with anyone I come to love. If it happens to be a trans person, then so be it.
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>>12472840
Did a trans girl dump you for another girl or something?
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Probably if you didn't refer to yourself as a slur
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>>12472355
I've done it. Back in my day I did throw my fair share of cereal. However, recently that cereal has stuck.
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>>12472911
>date transgirl
>she keeps getting upset when i look at or touch her dingler
>dumps me for another transgirl who understands her hatred of her own gherkin
>get woken up in the middle of the night
>my ex and her new gf are standing over me
>they say: if you like dick so much we'll give you more than you can handle
>they bring in a football team worth of bick dicked musclemen
>they fuck every whole in my flabby body over and over
>pass out covered in cum and they all leave
>mfw this was my plan the whole time
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I unironically love my bf a lot, and don't want to consider a future without him. Anyone saying trannies are only attracted to women is a transcel trying to increase its pool for degeneracy by gaslighting good girls and the boys who like them
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>>12472511
What’s the point of keeping the dick? Are you crazy? I would have stayed gay.
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>>12472973
>the statistical truth is gaslighting
vamp please
just because you are an exception (and even then that still remains to be seen) that does not erase the rule
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>>12473008
Pickle
>fun to play with
>tastes great
>looks cute when small, delicious when big
>low maintenance
>relatable
China
>boring
>smells and tastes horrible
>either looks like nothing or a eldritch horror
>high maintenance (real ones bleed and keep getting pregnant, fake once need to constantly be dilated)
>so strange and horrific it caused almost every ancient society to vilify it
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>>12473037
>smells and tastes horrible
should smell the same as any pre-op trans girl on hrt
>either looks like nothing
It's a warm hole, you're supposed to stick your dick in it, not stare at it
>fake once need to constantly be dilated
It's like one hour a day for 2 years, after which, depending on the surgeon, you might even be able to not dilate anymore.
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>>12472355
Yeah, me for example.
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>>12472973
this tbhon
>>12473034
>if I repeat the lie it will become truth
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>>12473074
>should smell the same as any pre-op trans girl on hrt
Incorrect. What you smell on a penis comes from the outside and can be masked with perfume if needed. Vaginas are all inside smells that you can't do much about
>It's a warm hole, you're supposed to stick your dick in it, not stare at it
Like an asshole? Might as well be an invisible cloaca if it's not going to bother to look good
>It's like one hour a day for 2 years
That's 730 hours of frotting or mutual sucking time lost
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>>12473124
Dude just get a boyfriend
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>>12473131
Why when I could get the improved version of a girlfriend?
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>>12473142
because u gay nigga
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>>12473034
>A third each of trans women are straight, bi, or lesbian. Therefore all trans women are lesbians
I think there is a problem with your math.
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>>12473147
It's only gay if her penis has a masculine mouthfeel
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>>12473155
even if that were true (it factually isn't since only about 10% of trans women are HSTS) bisexuality in AGP transwomen does not actually exist
it is simply meta attraction (sic not actual attraction) and as any fetish it eventually subsides revealing that "bi" transwoman for what she actually is
a pure transbian
therefore only 10% of transwomen are actually androphilic the other "bi" third you mentioned is simply in denial about the lesbianism
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>>12473219
lol this bait is good shit
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>>12473226
>all "bi" transwomen end up in lesbian long standing relationships
>stating the logical outcome of this is bait
if you are a chaser you are an idiot that cannot see the writing on the wall
if you are an AGP transwoman you really need to stop lying to yourself and others about your non-existant androphilia
unless you are HSTS then never mind
this discussion does not concern you beyond the scope of you being a bad choice of a wife due to your inherent disloyal nature
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>>12473247
lmao this keeps getting better
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>>12473257
your denial is not bait
time to face the music
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>>12473257
They're right though.
Bisexuality doesn't exist in AMABs.
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I would
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>>12473247
I'll be sure to let my bf know that I only enjoy sucking his cock because I'm a straight man with a fetish for being a girl.
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>>12473261
sure jan
>>12473262
uh huh
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>>12473262
Lmfao
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>>12473262
Bisexuality either leans straight or gay.
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>>12473283
as long as you are being honest with him
he needs to understand the non existent future he has with you
if he is ok with the temporal set up then that's on him but the choice needs to be based on honesty not omitted truths
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>>12472355
Yes, I'm one of those men. Go on, try me! We'll see who's living together within two years.
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lots of FtM dudes marry MtF and build families with them.
Some cis guys also just do what they would with a barren wife and adopt or don't have kids
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Are there men out there that actually want to settle down and build a cage to keep a horny, orgasmless tranny in while making her his housewife, slave and fucktoy?
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>>12473590
Genes don't matter. Especially not when you're taking two people's genes and tossing them in a blender. As long as you're not passing on any rare diseases none of it really matters. Also, I can't imagine ever being in a place in my life where I'd feel justified having a child. God damn if I ever end up with a kid just because I couldn't wear a condom, I'll be very disappointed in myself.

also the world is kinda garbage so just take a kid who's already here and make the best of it. I don't need to create a person who will be in the prime of their life during whatever hellscape 2050 will end up being.
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>>12473595
bailey jays husband did it. they're out there
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>>12472695

What do you make of a bi trans girl who has never dated a man (due to unpassability and an unwillingness to date gay men), but had fantasies about men for the past 5-ish years starting from 19, and repressed attraction to irl men since early teens?
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>>12473724
Don't ask that person you silly cunt
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>>12472355
yeah, I have a boyfriend of almost a year and I'm MtF, and he and I both intend to make this last and get married and have a family.
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>>12473733

I just want to get an idea for when he thinks a bi tranny's true transbian nature is supposed to show itself.
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Yes definitely.

There was this Filipina transwoman who got married to this Chad in my city. She is gorgeous and passes well enough to hold down a face to face sales position (they like pretty faces for sales reps). She’s like 9/10 in cis terms.

But it honestly helps to have actual hobbies. Like a wide set of hobbies. Not just sit inside all day. Go to the gym, play an instrument, Cook, dance, rock climb, etc.

Don’t attribute your lack of a partner to your simply being trans, while it’s definitely a possible reason, there are other things to consider.

Basically no one wants some puppy dog who won’t give them space. No one wants to talk to someone who has no opinion. Half of you don’t even have a sense of humor and wonder why no one wants to be around you.

Don’t fret. Work on yourself.
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I can't imagine a normal human relationship and existing like a normie now, i stopped doing things that I felt weird about like having a job.

Most women want someone that can support them and provide stability such as having a job that would mean being separated from one another which sounds like something evil to me.

Disgusting human animals doing transient things without an eternal desire and knowing that we should always be together.

There is no salvation for my kind because this world can't ever know or be perfect enough. The body can not be free.

At least I don't have to lower my standards.
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>>12473608
>Genes don't matter. Especially not when you're taking two people's genes and tossing them in a blender.
i want my kids to be mine, and to be somewhat like me
inb4 someone tells me this completely normal human feeling is wrong
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>>12472355
I wouldn't be opposed to it if I like them well enough. No children would be okay if she didn't want to.
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>>12473914
That completely normal feeling gives rise to the reason parents refuse to accept trans kids or endorse dreams they don't like.

Normal isn't always a healthy thing.
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>>12473914
Biologicals are flawed, otherwise you would be immortal.
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>>12473201
Double-blind science desu
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>>12473927
What if she wanted to adopt a child or two?
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>>12472364
/thread
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>>12474037
Not much research is needed. Just do what I do and hang out in glory holes and when you get them to cum take a peek over the stall to see if you guessed correctly whether or not they were a woman
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>>12474078
I'd think that'd be great honestly.
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>>12472355
i sure hope so but im not holding my breath on ever being the married housewife im destine to be :s
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>>12474232
If it's destiny you don't have a choice. You're gonna get wifed, deal with it.
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>>12474242
promise to make lots of yummy sandwiches just dont hurt me <3
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>>12474314
sandwiches are one of the only things I can reliably be bothered to make for myself! fine though. you'd be proud of anyone enjoying your food. can't deny someone that.
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>>12472355
Don't mtf trannies need to use a medical dildo everyday to prevent their fauxginas from sealing up? Their bodies literally recognize the fauxgina as an open wound and want to heal it by sealing it up.
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>>12474232
>forgetting marriage is about starting a family
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>>12474395
You and I both know you only go looking for the porn videos with trans girls who have penises. You don't care about the surgery. What a phony.
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Depends: can you pass as a regular cis? As for kids/adoption I'm not yet decided.
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>>12472355
I don't give a shit either way, to me women and transexuals are basically the same, guess transsexuals have the unique understanding from being on both sides of the fence though
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>>12472829
Or one that prefers to adopt or can't have any of his own.

>>12473219
Source? You keep claiming there's stats and shit but I don't see any. And anecdotally I definitely actually experience attration to guys, something that shouldn't be possible according to you. My longest relationship has been with a man, who while we were together I couldn't stop picturing getting married to. He dumped me for other people, not the other way around!

This is just an even gayer and more tarded version of the normie thing about bis being slutty whores who cheat all the time lol.
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>>12472355
Men? no
Beta basedboys? Yes, you could probably find one. I gave up looking for a real man a long time ago. Only ones that will love me will have more of a vagina than I ever will.
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>>12474729
>t. not a bitter transbian
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m-my personality will be enough to convince a man to stay with me
right?
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>>12472355
if by tranny you mean a very, very, very feminine male who keeps himself on a strict twink diet and showers and perfumes himself every day and is a slave to my benis

...possibly.
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>>12475319
>slave to my benis
lmao you sound like a fatty
no twink wants to settle down with you sis
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>>12475323
n-no! i'm... 6'0". 200lb, ottermode. dreaming of a pixie lad to share the rent and other things.

anyway. i'm just telling OP the truth. yeah conceivably it would be possible, if he were up front about himself. e.g. not chopping his dick off and selling himself to me as a "woman."
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>>12475304
bj skills seal the deal, dudes have literally put a ring on it because their wives honed their craft
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>>12475417
then they will not want you.
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Holy fuck I've gotta figure out how to accept my girly feelings with my masculine body cause half the people in this thread are lunatics. Fuck transition.
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>>12475528
how to practice
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>>12474729
Being educated and just a nice non homophobic guy is not being a man?

Revise your misconceptions about manhood. Btw I dislike hoes no matter if trans or cis.
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>>12475587
get bf, tell him that it's important for you to give him the succ every day so you can improve and
be the very best
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I'm getting married soon to a man, so yes. uwu
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>>12472355
honestly i just want to use them to help me understand my weird repressed sexuality.
i could never "be" with a man, but i want to fuck a tranny
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>>12475588
Btw I just crossed a group of teen girls, publicy mocking the unprivilegied. They, oh so beautiful and young. Excercicing their little parcel of power.
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>>12472355
Despite the fact that it may be mildly unfair, once I get bio children, if I love her, why not?
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>>12475706
female privilege
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>>12475662
congrats, post engagement ring?
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if u can gag on my cock right and cook and clean then yeah.
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>>12472355

Yes because estrogen makes men look softer/feminine and I don't like high body fat%. It's frustrating being attracted to some elements of men and others of women. I don't like tits and I don't like dicks, but AMABs usually have lower body fat if they take care of themselves.
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>>12475581
A lot of people that I find that are attracted to trans people are lunatics, that was one of the last straws for me. Am just a gay fem ssbb now. No chasers, no down low men, no trade, no closet case. We're just gay, that's it.
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>>12477079
no doubt, you're a vulnerable demographic and there's plenty that will try to take advantage of it
not all, but that doesn't help you if you don't know how to avoid getting into abusive situations, ofc
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>>12476972
>estrogen makes men look softer/feminine and I don't like high body fat%
What?
By that logic you like maybe femboys or crossdressers

many MtFs have way higher body fat% than normal dudes simply because the estrogen they take changes their metabolism
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>>12477090
That chance increases when you a trans person. Like living that life is ridiculously hard, that's just one part. Even if you pass, you have deal with the brutal dating scene, which leaves many trans alone, because of lack of adequate partners well adjusted to date and have relationships with them.

Dysphoria is a different story, I have mine under control.
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>>12477163
yepp, shit sucks big time for a lot of the girls (and trans dudes too, iirc)

>Am just a gay fem ssbb now
so you boymoding or?
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>>12477104

Yeah femboys are good. And I know estrogen increases bf% but women have like 10% more than guys without hrt, so keeping weight the same a tranner will have a bit less than a cis. Also a cups.
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>>12477384

Thinking about it I like femboys/cds more than tranners but would be willing to deal with it if they liked bottoming and were only as crazy as any other person.
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>>12472355
Maybe. But I doubt it. I myself don't really like dating crazy.
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>>12472355
In my experience, the only men who actively want to settle down with a tranny are those who have been seriously burned by cis women.
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>>12472355
yeah it's called being pansexual
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>>12477949
This. But most pan people just say they are bi.
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>>12472355
my bf does :3
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>>12477551
yep

much tired of everything.
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No, I just want to use their cute buttholes as cumdumps while they're still young and cute because I have warpped and distrubed views on sex and women and could never have a healthy relationship sexual or otherwise.
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>>12472355
I do, but I don't think any trans women want me because I'm asexual.
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>>12472355
Yes but I don't want a stay at home tranny wifey.

I want a fiscally responsible tranny wifey who will build investments with so we can both someday escape wagie life and live comfortably, maybe around 50.
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>>12479092
That's not true. Just a lot less of them.
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>>12472727
Stay bitter hon
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>>12479151
:(
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Been dating my trans gf for 4 months now, shes pretty awesome desu. I mean well see but i can totally see myself marrying her.
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>>12480559

Is she your first?
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As someone who's into transgirls, my biggest fear would be them either letting go or hitting the wall.
And at some point, one of the two would happen.
If she would let go at like 45 and didn't hit the wall yet, I feel like I loved her enough that I could deal with her sliding further towards the masculine side.

But if it happened at like 30-35 years old, I honestly don't think I could deal with that.
I know that's really shitty and shallow, but I feel like that's the reality of my stance on this.
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>>12472355
Absolutely not. Men usually look for those with good mental health.
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>>12480585

yup dated cis girls most of my life shes my first trans gf and im pretty crazy about her ngl
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>>12480603

What do you mean by "let go"?

>>12480690

I meant if she was the first girl of any kind that you've ever been with, but I'm glad I got my answer.
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>>12472355
>no
no
>no
no
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>>12480699
The thing with trans women, is they need to looksmax.
That takes a lot of time and effort.
Letting go means they let go of the time and/or effort of looksmaxing.
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>>12480699

na im not socially inpet lol, Shes been staying at my place most of the time instead of her dorm room but shes stayng there now for finals.....NGL i miss her already we were watching death of stalin yesterday together in bed cracking up and now my bed feels empty
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>>12472355
I do but they are ftm and i slightly wish they were cis but I love them too much to say anything like that
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>>12472355
of course there are, statistically its impossible for there not to be some. Albeit its not a BIG population. I plan on settling down and even adopting some kids with my boyfriend and he is trans.
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>>12480726
if she passes due to hrt alone, the situation will be identical to a cis girl
better than a cis girl once menopause starts, even
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>>12479281
That actually sounds like an ideal relationship to me, don't lose hope I would want this and other people would too
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>>12481756
haha I'm the person who told him it was unlikely and I'd want it too. So yeah, it can happen.
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Marrying my trans gf in a few months, been together for a year. I'm happy and I couldn't imagine my life without her. There's some sacrifices but her smile makes my day better. Life isn't easy, but it's easier with my woman by my side.
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I'm concerned at how rare it is having a happy, healthy marriage is for transgirls here. I have a theory that happy transgirls don't visit chans. At least my trans gf has no idea what a chan is and never posts on them.
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>>12481756
Yeah, we can all want transwomen have ideal relationships like some of these but you know what, it ain't going to happen for everyone. That's just life.
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>>12472355
I wanna marry my gf so yes.
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>>12472355
i douth any real person would ever do that with us trannys, we arent desierd partners
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>>12482891
That's not true at all anon I'm certain you're a wonderful person and you'll find someone who loves you as you deserve to be.
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>>12482894
how would love a thing like me ? i cant even love myself, how can anyone love someting that hates itself ?

i get you are trying to chear me up or get my hopes up, but from my experiance none want to date anything like me

besides i probebly dont deserve love like that anyway, im lesser then the real deal
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>>12482891
>>12482903
There are people out there who want to date you, but most trans girls out there think they're disgusting for being attracted to trans girls.
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>>12472355
No. Tranny fucking is a bottom tier fetish for some fucked up men. Many serial killers were into trannies and lady boys.
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>>12482913
really ? there are ? i have a hard time beliving it, well we are kinda disgusting or i belive so anyway

love seems like a thing only posible in stories or in really lucky cases
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>>12482903
>how can anyone love something that hates themselves
Well, there are people who are colorblind or are nearsighted, and that causes them to see the world in a different way that's maybe not so accurate to how other people normally see it. In the same way, just because you don't love yourself because you're not able to notice all of your good qualities doesn't mean they aren't there, and that nobody else will be able to notice them. Someone will. And you're not "lesser" than anything and there's not even a "real thing" to compare you to! You're you, and there's only one of you, and I'm certain you're a very sweet girl who is just scared and going through some tough times. :)
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>>12482922
Of course there are, but it's not going to be a man that isn't already attracted to trans girls, that's just the fantasy that most trans girls have thinking they will find a "straight" guy that won't care about them being trans.
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>>12482942
Yeah, no. Chasers are just a vocal and thirsty minority.
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>>12482952
Thanks for proving my point
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>>12482937
thank you for the kind words.

im not able to completly belive you, but mabye there is some hope..mabye

>>12482942
i dont expect anyone how is normal to be in to something like me, it will be sombody how is alredy atracted to this kinda thing
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>>12482991
There are a lot of "chasers" out there, go get you one girl.
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>>12482998
ive heard about that, sounds more like a meme or someting people do as a joke

but mabye its real, idk im not going to kep my hopes up ether way
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>>12483023
Don't let the bitter bitches here get you down
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>>12482903
>how would love a thing like me ? i cant even love myself, how can anyone love someting that hates itself ?
self-hate is usually fixable

>besides i probebly dont deserve love like that anyway, im lesser then the real deal
by this logic average non-hot women don't deserve love too
yet plenty of them end up in happy relationships

you're trans, so
you can't get preggo and birth a child (yet)
there are infertile women in the same situation that have someone who loves them

you may or may not have a vag

for everything else, especially if you pass, you're the same as a cis woman
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>>12482913
>most trans girls out there think they're disgusting for being attracted to trans girls.

Homophobia and transphobia even among trans girls. LOL. LGTBI+ is a fucking joke.
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>>12472355
I mean, I would.
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I would marry a tranny.
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>>12472355
I'm a straight guy.
Back in high school there was that girl I had a small crush on. She was a bit tomboyish. Later she changed her name to a masculine one and started taking male hormones. I'm not sure did he have an operation. But I would still like to date him and I regret not doing anything all those years ago. Does that count?
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>>12485913
No. Also that's not straight.
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>>12485924
>not straight
But he quite likely still have a vagina.
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>>12485944
Nigga you gay.
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>>12485973
What? How come? There's literally nothing gay about wanting to fuck a cuntboy.
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>>12472355
why not

personality (and ass size/shape) are whats really important in a relationship
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>I have a theory that happy transgirls don't visit chans.
You are completely right. I was happy until a few hours ago when out of curiosity came to visit this board after abandoning it for years and after a few hours I'm starting to remember why I left this toxic landfill in the first place
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>>12472355
Yes if it were the right girl. From my experience trans girls tend to understand love better and romanticize more instead of using it like a bargaining chip.
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>>12485913
>be ftm
>have mutual crush with a straight guy in high school who was the best friend i've ever had
>start transitioning
>his interest disappears instantly
>don't even talk to him anymore since graduation
i feel like i ruined my only chance to ever have a relationship
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>>12488043
Huh, it's funny how our stories were similar.

>>his interest disappears instantly
Ouch. Yeah, I can see how painful that could be, even if I can't honestly blame the guy for that reaction. Especially since he was still so young.

>my only chance to ever have a relationship
No offence, but I'm pretty sure that you will find someone, especially if your personality is alright. I can't be the only one who finds ftm hot.

Uhh, on a completely unrelated note: are you perhaps in your mid-twenties and in Europe?
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>>12488250
yeah, i definitely don't blame him for it. if i liked a guy and he went mtf i almost certainly wouldn't be attracted anymore either. when i feel lonely sometimes i just have intrusive thoughts that i should've repressed and been together with him instead
i don't think my personality is bad but i'm a extremely socially inept and alienated individual and he was the only person who was ever so tolerant of my autism
i'm an american in my early twenties. please find a lonely trans guy in europe and make him happy for me!
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>>12472355
I was going to but she went crazy and detransitioned.
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>>12472435
this
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>>12488418
I'll try Anon. And you don't give up either; I'm holding thumbs for you
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>>12485973
Is it gayer to fuck a trans man or get fucked by a trans woman?
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>>12472355
I wouldn't mind at all, but will you allow yourselves to be happy?
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only ftm if they stay female and don't take hormones
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>>12488641
Transman is like a 9 transwomen topping us like a 7
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like any set of partners/relationship, some of this depends on age. people change a lot during their 20s, somebody you start dating young that doesn't want kids may want them later and vice versa. or they may not. people may grow together or grow apart. there are absolutely men that would settle down with transwomen, but lifetime relationships are a rarity anymore.
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>>12488641
always gayer to get fucked, but least gay is fucking trans woman
>>12489540
switch
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>>12472355
Yes. My husband was divorced for a few years before I met him and we dated for a while (4ish years) before he proposed. We've been happily married so far without much issue.

t. Straight tranner
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You can't give me kids so no. I do love you a lot, but it's never meant to last.
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>>12472355
Yeah. 6, maybe even 7. At least as far as ones you would consider dateable and worth marrying.
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>>12492153
whats the age gap?
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>>12472355
I've been a trans lady for 10 yrs and I'm married to a bi man (who has actually been with many cis women, not the other type of "bi man"). We own a house and all that other long-term couple stuff.

Ask me anything your asperger's heart desires.
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>>12495694
It seems the main reason to marry someone, as opposed to just having a loving LTR is to start a family. I get that 2 people can still be a family but I'm struggling to convince my bf of that. What do you think compelled your husband to propose, rather than just live together?

What was the engagement (ring) like?
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>>12495718
We are banking on sweet stem-cell and CRISPR magic... Making "my" egg cell from one of my cells + a donor egg. His sperm obviously. I think we're going to wait maybe up to 5 more yrs until we cave and I have to either convince my sister to donate an egg, or we just use a surrogate :(

What compelled him to propose to me is probably the fact that I'm quite the catch! Also his old buddies kept telling him to marry me thinking I was some cis woman he'd snagged. OR maybe they thought I was the best girlfriend he'd had cuz the others seem to have been the "anchor babies now!!" type.

>(((jewelry)))
I always got nice diamond earrings and necklaces from him for Christmas or my birthday, so it was just a nice ring. Nothing crazy wow special. We saving money for one of the million dollar mcmansions anyways, I would be kind of mad if he'd spent $8k+ on a ring.

>>12486645
>>12481781
I have saved an IRL tran friend from anxiety due this board. It is best to visit in very small doses or never. Frequent channers are generally whack in the head. Especially trip fags and in denial /pol/tards who secretly love dick.
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>>12495795
Aww that's all really sweet. Congrats on living every (trans) woman's dream. What ages were you when you got married?
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>>12495817
I was 26 and he was 30
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>>12472355
Rin was a good choice for this thread pic
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>>12472355
Some, but they're not men you want to spend a significant portion of your life around.
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>>12498183
Why not?
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Me, I just want someone who genuinely love me to cuddle with
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read siege
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Yeah, me. I have a trans girlfriend from half across the world and we're working hard to make it happen. I'm working on getting my degree. I'm going to see her in probably about 6 months, and after that we're taking it to the next level, and then the next, and the next and so on. I love her, she loves me. Someone can love you, and you can love them.
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>>12472355

I'm one. A close online friend of mine came out as a Transwoman last November. And she's always been just such a lovely person, even when I thought she was male there was a part of me that kept thinking 'If only she was a girl.' And now she is. And... I find my feelings on that haven't changed, and I want to follow through once she's finished becoming the woman she's felt like inside all this while.
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>>12504485
Ur gay for not dating her beforehand, I hope a chad sweeps her up
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>>12472355
Trannies are only passable for 10-20 years, then it gets really fucking ugly.

The only people that want to be with a tranny are turning on by being with a cute gril with a penis, once you look like a man in makeup the shows over.
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>>12472355
Every trans person I've met has been batshit crazy, no.
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>>12472355
yes they are. However the fact that I'll never have my own kids it's very hard for me.
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>>12504637
Misinformation.
You age as a woman on HRT.
If you looked like a woman at 20, you will look like a woman at 50, 70, 90+++.

There are examples out there of early-ish transitioners that have aged gracefully into old women.
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>>12472355
id give it a shot



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