[a / b / c / d / e / f / g / gif / h / hr / k / m / o / p / r / s / t / u / v / vg / vr / w / wg] [i / ic] [r9k / s4s / vip / qa] [cm / hm / lgbt / y] [3 / aco / adv / an / asp / bant / biz / cgl / ck / co / diy / fa / fit / gd / hc / his / int / jp / lit / mlp / mu / n / news / out / po / pol / qst / sci / soc / sp / tg / toy / trv / tv / vp / wsg / wsr / x] [Settings] [Search] [Home]
Board
Settings Home
/lgbt/ - Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, & Transgender


Thread archived.
You cannot reply anymore.



File: 1535351204053.png (383 KB, 474x749)
383 KB
383 KB PNG
I hate being into other men for reasons I'd rather not get into here because I don't want to start an argument or derail the thread.
I'm extremely distressed over being this way and being unable to change. I've never acted on this attraction besides masturbation and even that--being largely disinterested in straight stuff now, even after no fap--compounds my stress.
My parents raised me normally, there was no abuse causing it. They've supported me emotionally and financially for years, and although they aren't perfect, the mere thought of them knowing that I am this way (they're not accepting) will severely disappoint them. I wouldn't be disowned, I'm pretty sure. But I am sure they would be crushed and telling them simply to get it over with and alleviate my own extreme distress over the whole thing would be selfish. It's like the "ultimate and final cuck" pasta but even worse because instead of wanting to lie with a woman and be dominant I want to take the place of a woman and lie with a man.
My own unerring stance towards the entire issue (and experience) tells me therapy won't help me. I'm straight up fucked. KMS
>>
File: hideri15.png (208 KB, 545x509)
208 KB
208 KB PNG
>>12031676
>I hate being into other men for reasons I'd rather not get into here because I don't want to start an argument or derail the thread.

Don't care about this thread but this has got me curious. What is it, OP?

also sorry about your gay i guess
>>
>>12031676
so uh, you got gender dysphoria or just regular gay
>>
>>12031684
Not getting into it. Sorry.

>>12031687
Not trans, just same sex attracted
>>
File: 1500484004154.jpg (82 KB, 400x400)
82 KB
82 KB JPG
>>12031694
>Not getting into it. Sorry.
Not gonna accept that
Besides it may be important.
>>
>>12031694
>Not trans
phew, happy for you

>Not getting into it. Sorry.
stop being a fag and cucking yourself out of your sexuality because you have some sort of self-hate issues
if you're gay (or bi), you're gay (or bi)

now, why don't you want to live your life properly?
>>
>>12031694
What? You're a self hating faggot and you find faggots disgusting? You wouldn't be the first person here like that.
>>
>>12031697
>>12031701
Not getting into it one two "live your live properly," implies being gay is a major part of my identity and not indulging in it is denying who I am. Defining oneself by sexuality is retarded.
>>
>>12031705
>implies being gay is a major part of my identity
no? exactly the opposite, dumbass
you're the one that's making it a bigger deal than it needs to be

>and not indulging in it is denying who I am
it's denying your sexuality, nothing more, nothing less

>Defining oneself by sexuality is retarded.
no shit sherlock

now, again, why do you want to pray the gay away, instead of just being a regular guy that happens to be into dudes?
>>
>>12031709
>it's denying your sexuality, nothing more, nothing less
That's silly. I've admitted I'm gay so how am I denying my sexuality?
>>
>>12031705
Are you religious or something?

>implies being gay is a major part of my identity and not indulging in it is denying who I am
I mean, sexuality is a part of anyone's identity, whether they're straight or not. People regularly think about sex, they are wired that way. You don't have to take it on as a label or anything.

You could either just embrace how you are and not make a big deal out of it or you could form some kind of stupid guilt complex for loathing a part of yourself that you actually don't have control over. You don't really have any other options. What, are you gonna start crying every time you get a boner from looking at a dude? You think that's a healthy way to live?
>>
>>12031714
answer the question, religious boy

>why do you want to pray the gay away, instead of just being a regular guy that happens to be into dudes?
>>
>>12031716
I don't get a boner from looking at guys unless I'm at the gym and one of them is wearing something really tight or I see my best friend's belly. My point is I'm don't like all or even most guys.
I should seek to avoid being degenerate.

>>12031720
I annoyed people with this earlier and I really don't want to get into it again because I don't want to be a pest KMS KMS KMS
>>
>>12031723
>I'm don't like all or even most guys.
sounds pretty normal tbhon

>I annoyed people with this earlier and I really don't want to get into it again because I don't want to be a pest
tough shit, we're homing in on this because it sounds like your main issue and the thing you need to address first

>KMS KMS KMS
?
>>
>>12031728
>sounds pretty normal tbhon
Huh? Most guys are at least mildly attracted to most women so I thought most gays would be the same way with guys.
I'm attracted to only a few different types of guys and it's one reason why I questioned whether or not I was gay for so long.
>tough shit, we're homing in on this because it sounds like your main issue and the thing you need to address first
It's my mindset, which I can't change any more than my sexuality, which is the problem. I've gone to therapy to discuss the conflicts and and hasn't helped (even after multiple therapists).

>?
I will eventually do it at this rate.
>>
>>12031723
>I should seek to avoid being degenerate
Where is that going to get you exactly? Being celibate for the rest of your life?

Anon, you don't have to go full San Francisco public anal fisting. You can actually hate the extremes and still maintain that part of yourself. The extremes are what tend to keep people repressing more than anything. Self loathing is unhealthy.

Just own it and don't make a big deal out of it or think too hard about it. You like what you like and there is no point in spending your life denying it every time it rears its head. You're fighting against your own nature.
>>
>>12031742
What's your mindset exactly? Are you religious or not? Do you just find faggots disgusting and that's all?
>>
File: 1521896331521.gif (1.68 MB, 498x278)
1.68 MB
1.68 MB GIF
>>12031744
>Where is that going to get you exactly? Being celibate for the rest of your life?
Yes, ideally I won't masturbate either, the only reason I succumb to it still is because I fucking hate having frequent wet dreams which I get if I don't do it at least every week and a half.
>Self loathing is unhealthy.
I don't hate myself. Just my attractions.
>You're fighting against your own nature
It's going to be a lifelong battle. But I can't lose.

>>12031750
>What's your mindset exactly?
I really don't want to get into the theology of it since people's minds are already made up but I believe that doing gay stuff will lead to you going to Hell unless you genuinely are sorry for it, ask for forgiveness, and turn away from the practices (i.e. don't do them again).
>>
>>12031742
oh yeah, chicks often don't like many types of guys, and only like a few
same for plenty of baby-gay/bi dudes
>I'm attracted to only a few different types of guys and it's one reason why I questioned whether or not I was gay for so long.
if I had a penny for every time I've read that
makes me sad there isn't more awareness about this shit desu

>It's my mindset, which I can't change any more than my sexuality, which is the problem. I've gone to therapy to discuss the conflicts and and hasn't helped (even after multiple therapists).
I wouldn't give up yet, anon. Worth a shot to keep trying to un-brainwash yourself with the help of others who have.

>but I believe that doing gay stuff will lead to you going to Hell
Oh yeah, you're gonna want to get out of that mental trap at some point, or you'll be turning your life now (the only one you'll likely have) into the Hell you so fear.
>>
>>12031761
>I wouldn't give up yet, anon. Worth a shot to keep trying to un-brainwash yourself with the help of others who have.
I think I've only reinforced my current stances in my attempts thus far. I can't change what I think, I'm pretty certain. I'll keep trying though.

I think it would help for me to rip the band aid off and tell my parents but like I said in the OP that feels incredibly selfish.
>>
>>12031770
Oh, the parent thing sounds interesting. Why would it be selfish to save yourself from long-term suffering at the cost of something that needs to happen sooner or later, and that the sooner you do it, the sooner they can get over?
>>
>>12031774
Because it's going to hurt them and the primary reason I'm considering telling them isn't out of external necessity (I don't have a boyfriend) but to make myself less stressed. I'm not exaggerating when i say that I have grey hairs over all of this and I'm only twenty two.
>>
>>12031780
It's going to hurt them if you tell them now, as well as if you tell them 10 years in the future. They will have to handle it at some point.
The only difference is that you'll be stressing yourself unnecessarily the longer you delay it, I mean you're telling me about the gray hairs after all.
Sounds like you need someone to strengthen your resolve to do this, because you know it is the more fair thing to do for both you and your parents. They don't benefit from your suffering either, and probably have the happiness of their child as a much higher priority.
>>
File: 1533716124194.jpg (759 KB, 1080x1080)
759 KB
759 KB JPG
>>12031757
I've been in your exact situation, but it was over being a tranny. I used to try all kinds of things, including praying the rosary. I would still be in a constant state of soul crushing guilt right now. It was only after I studied ritual genital cutting that I dropped Christianity, which was extremely painful for me because it was basically my worldview for the entirety of my life. I also surrounded myself with material of the most degenerate faggots possible and convinced myself that if I ever did anything, I would turn into one of them. It was an extremely effective way to keep hating myself. Things like pic related still make me angry just to look at, even though I don't believe in it anymore. I would have kept living that way, because while I was entranced by Christianity I never allowed myself even an ounce of introspection into the way I am. I just hated myself. You can say that you're not hating yourself and only that part of yourself, but you're really not, you're hating yourself. You're stuck in an eternal guilt complex. Do you really think that God gave you this cross to bear and you're just supposed to suffer for the rest of your life over it, when you have no real control over your own sexual attraction? You know that not everything has to be one extreme or the other.
>>
>>12031757
I believe that doing gay stuff will lead to you going to Hell unless you genuinely are sorry for it, ask for forgiveness, and turn away from the practices (i.e. don't do them again)
See? This right here is the problem. Wake the fuck up, Jesus or Allah or whoever are not real. You should not dictate how you live your life based on a book written 2000 years ago about a magical man in the sky who hates certains sets of people but will save you if you repent at the last minute. Even if such a god exists they would not send you to hell for being gay, religion is not about that.

Accept yourself just as you are, even if it hurts people in the progress, because what's more important than anything is you, not what some shitty christ/allahfag thinks is morally acceptable or not.
>>
>>12031790
>>12031793
>, but you're really not, you're hating yourself.
As I said earlier, the way you put this it's as though you think that being gay is my identity.
>Do you really think that God gave you this cross to bear and you're just supposed to suffer for the rest of your life over it
God didn't make me gay. But following Christ is all about denying oneself for something greater. The Bible never says that it's supposed to be easy. It's ambiguous whether being homosexual (but not acting on it) in and of itself is a sin but for the sake of argument let's say it's not, just acting on it is a sin. There are plenty of other urges, other impulses that people experience where acting on them is considered wrong, and not only from a Biblical but a societal context. Take adultery (mentioned in some of the very same verses) for example. Because a straight guy may have an innate desire to sleep with multiple women although he's married (and there's biological evidence that it's better for men's reproductive success, because sperm are unlimited in contrast to eggs), that doesn't mean doing so is okay.

I really wish I could change my beliefs but I just can't. It's like asking me to believe the Earth is flat.
>>
>>12031676
You're just a shallow, masculine man who likes other men. You're already that there's no reason to obsess over it and you don't need to do anything except stop obsessing over it.
>>
>>12031810
>You're just a shallow, masculine man
I'm anything but masculine. I am such a bottom (and I've never even had sex) I am a fucking meme.
>>
>>12031801
Alrighty then, deny yourself all you want. Live an unhappy, unfulfilled life filled of self loathing just because you base your so called """morals""" on a shitty book. It's what Jesus would have wanted! You'll end up just like the New Zealand shooter, because you couldn't let go of your shitty beliefs and get your head out of your ass for just one moment. Keep comparing normal people who just so happen to like their own sex to loonies who believe in a flat earth, you retarded, close-minded shitstain. You're a fucking meme indeed.
>>
>>12031813
Bottom has nothing to do with masculine or feminine. Saying shit like "Ultimate and final cuck" does tho. Are you attracted to manly guys or twinks?
>>
>>12031819
It's a case by case basis. I've been into some of both, but I'm not into all twinks or manly guys.
I also dislike facial hair and bald heads and balding.

Would I not be taking the place of a woman, naturally, by being submissive an extreme extent?

>>12031817
I don't wish harm on anyone.
>>
>>12031813
I mean I thought you watched gay porn? Some bottoms take it like bitches and some relish in the challenge like men.
>>
>>12031801
>the way you put this it's as though you think that being gay is my identity.
It's not your _entire_ identity, but being gay is clearly a part of your identity whether you like it or not. Otherwise you wouldn't be posting here in the first place. If your beliefs aren't going to change then you're just doomed to suffer in this one and only life you've been given and no one can do or say anything to help you, so I'm not really sure what kind of advice you're expecting to get. You're not allowing yourself to have any options.
>>
>>12031826
While I'm not proud of it I do. I'm a total bitch.

>>12031827
I'm posting here simply out of desperation.
>>
>>12031825
Yeah you're shallow, I get it. Could be blonde hair or small tits, or big tits...

I don't think it's taking the place of a woman, you're not going to be raising children or teaching little suzie about her period

You're having sex with the person who turns you on in the way that turns you on
>>
>>12031801
>I really wish I could change my beliefs but I just can't. It's like asking me to believe the Earth is flat.
other way around, no? it's like asking a flat earther to look at the evidence

>>12031830
>I'm posting here simply out of desperation.
nigga tell your parents and stop fucking your shit up
>>
But supposing you do some day stay home and raise some adopted kid or something, that's cause you wanted to or you lost or won an argument, honestly the same as any other couple.. assuming they have a discussion about it...
>>
>>12031832
What does he have to gain from telling his parents? Are they going to set him up with his dream date? If he thinks it will make him feel better then he will, if not then don't
>>
>>12031676
Just get a gf you incel
>>
>>12031838
Just lend him your pillow.
>>
>>12031836
read the thread dumbass, it's the only thing he seems open to and it looks like he needs more reassurance to do so
>>12031770
>>
>>12031841
Influence is the word you're looking for there.
>>
>>12031844
sure, influence him to stop putting the imaginary needs of his parents above his own, and to go ahead with the idea that he himself gave in the first place
>>
>>12031840
I got this coming in the mail
>>
>>12031847
Has this Tulpa even come out to the other Tulpas yet?
>>
>>12031830
Well, even though you won't listen, my advice to you as someone who has been in the same position is that a slave morality is psychologically harmful to you and it's an unhealthy way to live and if you ever want to indulge in the way your brain is irreversibly hard wired, you don't have to stop believing in a God and become a godless pozz crazed fevered meth smoking degenerate with every STD on the planet. It can just be a small part of yourself. It doesn't actually have to be anything more than you allow it to be. The world doesn't actually operate in extremes.

I would argue that God didn't destine men to suffer endless guilt over their sins, sins they don't even have a chance of stopping because they're men, and men are imperfect creatures. It's an impossible standard, which is what makes it a relentless guilt complex. Men weren't made to even attempt to live under that kind of standard. Men are creatures that thrive riding a thin line between chaos and order.
>>
File: whatthefuckamireading.png (30 KB, 400x400)
30 KB
30 KB PNG
>>12031854
>>
>>12031852
what?
>>
>>12031854
>God didn't destine men to suffer endless guilt over their sins
this desu
>>
>>12031830
>I'm a total bitch.
Aww, little bitchboy is nervous about his need to give in to cock. Cute desu

Also rampantly sexist though. Liking dick doesn’t make you a girl, having conventionally effeminate mannerisms/sexual behaviors doesn’t make you a girl, and even if this did make you a girl, that’s not an inherently bad thing to be.
>>
this is either a really stupid troll or you're incredibly insecure
>>
>>12031854
>>12031862
That's true, but you're also not supposed to commit them. What's done is done but you're not supposed to live in sin if you're saved.

>>12031889
The latter
>>
>>12031919
>sharing intimacy with your loving partner
>sin
lol
>>
>>12031922
If the partner is not of the opposite sex yes.
>>
>>12031948
why
>>
>>12031950
Because it's made very clear what kinds of relationships/forms of sexual expression are acceptable to God and which are not.
>>
>>12031967
>acceptable to God
according to?
>>
>>12031970
The Bible?
>>
>>12031975
so a book written by some sandniggers 2 millennia ago to keep their tribes in check?
>>
>>12031716
>Are you religious or something?
obviously and painfully so but what he doesn't realize is that there's little in the bible against it and the bible isn't god's word anyway
>>
>>12031830
you've posted here before a couple times right?
>>
>>12031705
>Defining oneself by sexuality is retarded.
It's exactly what you are doing.
>>
File: Normal_5_0.png (84 KB, 237x349)
84 KB
84 KB PNG
>>12031676
(1/2)
hello, I'm a Christian and also bisexual and something similar to your experience happened at my church, there was a pretty devout man, he was kind of flamboyant as a kid but no gave much attention to it, he always wanted to be a priest, was a great person, always helping the elderly and never missed the sermons, he was basically the posterboy of our youth group and has expected when he completed 18 years of age he went to the monastery to study to become a priest

So I was also struggling with my sexuality for a while, but I also like women so I thought to just ignore men and I would be fine but one day the guy that wanted to be a priest was back at my local church, we didn't know at the moment but he couldn't be a priest because he feel in love with another man in the monastery and even then he was still a deacon at the church, he even had a boyfriend at some point (since deacons are allowed to marry/date) and we're not one of those big city liberal churches either but the people came to support him in time, but our youth group still wanted to know how, how come a man of god could be a homosexual?

he began by explaining that what we know now as heterosexuality is as harmful that we believe homosexuality is, everything is so sexual now a days, he quoted the bible a lot but I don't remember exactly so I'll just paraphrase it , he showed us how love was the most important thing for a person, how even when you felt uncontrollable lust for your girlfriend/wife you would still be forgiven for how much you love her, the same would apply to sex between men, although the bible talks about lust and sex between men it never talks about love, that's because such concept didn't exist in Greek times, sex between man were basically a carnal hierarchical show of power and he showed us was how normal was to feel lust at our age and how much better was to commit mistakes now so we could learn from them and repent when we get older and less horny all the time
>>
Hey religious nutjob anon, I missed you.
>>
File: trigun-01_00355421.jpg (180 KB, 1600x1200)
180 KB
180 KB JPG
>>12031676
>>12032684
(2/2)
Jesus doesn't love us because we are without sin, he loves us despite our sins and god gave each one of us our crosses to bear, I hope nothing but happiness finds your way in this journey, and I leave you with this passage 1 peter 4:8 "above all, love each other deeply, because love covers a multitude of sins"

Just do your thing, be a good person and don't worry so much about sinning, some day I am sure you will find a gay Christian bf that loves you as much as both of you love jesus
>>
>>12032684
>>12032743
Yeah but you fail to take into consideration the types of homosexuality which were the most accepted by society in Greco-Roman and middle eastern culture at the time. Also there are multiple words for love and the Peter passage refers to agape rather than eros (romantic/sexual).
>>
>>12032770
>the Peter passage refers to agape rather than eros
>Peter loves to a gape his little boys instead of erotic them up
kinky
>>
In high school I was super religious and gay
I tried every day to pray to god tto take same sex attraction away and make me love girls like the rest of the good christian boys
he never did
I tried to force myself to like girls by masturbating to straight porn (which wasn't very religious of me but self hatred from religion is a wild drug)
it didn't work
If there was a cure for "the gay" most of us would have taken it already because who the FUCK would have any interest in reducing their dating pool to such a small size?

Give up dude. You will save a lot of pain by just admitting you like men and that nothing will change except your outlook
>>
>>12032901
>If there was a cure for "the gay" most of us would have taken it already
Ew gross imagine wanting to fuck women
>>
>believing in religion

Please stay gay and never reproduce.
>>
File: DpZtT9wWsAA39Pw.jpg (19 KB, 393x331)
19 KB
19 KB JPG
I've been lurking your threads for a while. You have a very recognisable writing style. Look, I get faith is very important but you sound... deeply unhappy. Is this how you wanna live your whole life? Alone, full of unfulfilled lust, unloved and ashamed? You're in your 20s right? Do you want to do this for another 40 to 60 years That sounds like a miserable existence.
>>
>>12031676
Your own feelings and identity are far more important than your parents. You are your own person and you don't owe them anything.
If they truly love you they'll look past what they perceive as a flaw and their feelings for you won't change.
Unironically be yourself and never fucking be ashamed of what you are.
>>
>>12033030
>You have a very recognisable writing style.
I wish to avoid recognition, what makes it so easy to point out (if not the content)?
I don't but it's hard to accept and embrace.
>>
Christianity drives another young man to suicide.
>>
>>12031867
This desu. Op is cute and so are you anon
>>
>>12033080
You come across as very dour. You speak very matter of fact. Very blunt. And of course, eventually you always fess up to your internalised homophobia being your religion's fault.
>>
You're not alone, many people are struggling with their sexuality as well. Sooner or later you'll have to accept it. It doesn't just go away. Don't you want a loving relationship with a man? Would you really be okay with being a lonely celibate your entire life?
>>
>>12031723
>or I see my best friend's belly.
This is extremely cute desu
This happened to me a lot
>>
OP you better accept yourself and be happy or you'll end up like those preachers who get caught in their 60s fucking twink prostitutes and doing meth
>>
>>12032770
what we could possibly say to change your mind, its clear that people here actually want to help you but you're doing everything you can to live unhappily, you're setting yourself up to fail
>>
File: 1524694964248.png (183 KB, 266x462)
183 KB
183 KB PNG
>>12033270
>he says you're not a bother when you ask him to show it to you
>have to force myself not to ask extremely frequently
Why is it even so sexy

>>12033247
I don't want to be celibate my entire life. Still, you have to understand it's difficult for me to accept.
>>
>>12033464
he probably enjoys the compliment anyway
>>
>>12033464
Does he have a happy trail?
>>
File: 1544485464654.jpg (173 KB, 1920x1080)
173 KB
173 KB JPG
>>12033618
A-a bit of one.
He put on weight last year so it's pretty big, but the rest of him isn't particularly fat.
Just typing this out has me more excited than I should be.
>>
>>12033649
God, you're just begging to get pounded into submission huh?
>>
>>12033675
Going to stop replying so as not to tempt myself further.
>>
>>12033682
I love your threads op
>>
>>12033682
I can just imagine you all embarrassed trying to hide your erection
>>
Unironically, MGTOW is the answer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyKN7FUPFUY

I'm bi, but I'm so disillusioned with sex that I feel no need to pursue it. You have to find a higher purpose in life beyond sex, but you sound like a bitch so I think you can.
>>
>>12032684
>>12032743

>listening to a gay priest instead of the lord

You guys are just fake Christians. When Satan tempted Jesus on the mountain Jesus responded each time "It is written...". He didn't invent his own logic, he always referred to the bible. I have nothing against being gay, but don't try to bend the rules of the bible to justify sinning, that's ridiculous.
>>
OP, out of curiosity, why are you confident the modern bible is the absolute word of god?

Is it not possible that it was the word off God to begin with, but over the course of 2,000 years various kings and powerful people inserted their own opinions?

Caring about homosexuality seems like something a human would do. I would expect God to care far more about you being a good person.

Take a look at the teachings of Christ, and think about how his words may have been distorted by others to serve their purposes. There are some valuable teachings, but think about the ones that really make sense.

Would Christ _really_ want us to sacrifice our happiness for nothing to prove our devotion? Or is that something Kings just came up with to control their subjects? Wouldn’t it be better to prove your devotion through sacrfice _for others_?

Maybe your parents should sacrifice their proconceptions about homosexuality, so that you can live a happy life?

You seem more religious than I am, so maybe you have some insight into the flaws of that thinking, but it makes sense to me.
>>
>>12033928
The church's stance on certain issues over time has been recorded so any changes would have been as well. Furthermore they'd have no need to suddenly expressly forbid homosexuality if it weren't originally mentioned because the culture wasn't welcoming towards it, generally speaking. Memes about Romans have some basis in reality but bottoms were viewed with disgust and even secular, non Jewish philosophers pointed out how it was "contrary to nature."

God cares about your conduct beyond just being a "good person," although that is important too. Throughout the entire Bible those who follow Him are instructed to be holy in a certain way, that is, different. There are strict guidelines for what is considered accwptavle, and it's said the way to heaven is narrow.
>>
>>12033928
>Caring about homosexuality seems like something a human would do.

God speaks heavily about sexual immorality in the bible, it even surprises me how much of a dick he is about it. He approved of people spearing and killing 2 degenerates fornicating in a tent.
>>
>>12033847
But Jesus himself "bent the rules of the Bible," the New Testament and the teachings of Christ are a massive revision and rebirth of the text that came before. The New Testament directly contradicts the Old.
>He didn't invent his own logic
He literally did. Do you even understand your own religion?
>>
>>12033996
And again, what if the modern bible isn’t the true word of God?

How confident can you be that the word of God has not been twisted?
>>
>>12034018

Any changes made were because of a direct instruction from God, changes were necessary because the circumstances of the world were changing and people needed new instruction. Priest, bishops and popes are no more in tune with god than the average bloke at the church and have 0 authority to bend the rules of the bible.
>>
>>12034034
>changes were necessary because the circumstances of the world were changing and people needed new instruction
You just made my point better than I could, just read your own words. In 2000+ years of human development, you don't think it could change again?
>>
File: Seneca.jpg (11 KB, 170x255)
11 KB
11 KB JPG
>>12031676
The duty of a parent is to support and help their offspring on whatever path they choose, as long it's not self destructive. Denying yourself of your true self is a self-destructive behaviour.
Ideal parents are rare as unicorns, most of parents nowadays are quite flawed, and if yours are too, then there is not much to be done but accepting that painful fact and try your best to move on.
Your parents gave you life, however they don't rule your life, it's up to you to take a path you desire to take, and your parents should not interfere with it, and if they do, summon the authorities.
Mentally steel yourself, when you finally gather the courage to act and be your true self, for the worst case scenario, to endure the vilify and scorn of the ones that gave you life, they don't mandate your life, they don't have the right to do so, and if they dont approve, then carry on your life without their approval.
There is no easy way, there is no painless way; such hardships of life must be faced and endured, but what doesn't kill you, strenghtens you.
Remenber that living in denial is a fate worse than death, fooling yourself everyday and grieving every second. You must be your real self, or die trying. Both are acceptable fates.
>>
>>12034022
It's not like people have asked these questions and studied those texts or anything.
>>
>>12034044
>In 2000+ years of human development, you don't think it could change again?

Certainly, but the fact of the matter is, no one alive has the authority to make those changes. Maybe God feels like its good enough as is, or maybe he doesn't even exist, I'm not a Christian I just study the Bible.
>>
>>12031676
>KMS
Isn’t killing yourself a sin that sends you to hell?

If you’re going to hell anyways, why not be gay?

Or, y’know, maybe live a good happy life, and take a chance on God forgiving you at the end of the day?
>>
>>12034072
>You must be your real self, or die trying.

But what is the real self? Is it truly necessary for him to put dicks up his rectum, an area not even purposed for sexual activity, to be happy? Maybe he has the wrong idea about what is truly important.
>>
>>12034112
Maybe, but you get pleasure out of trolling suicidal people on an internet forum, so perhaps you have the wrong idea about whats important.
>>
>>12034112
Maybe, maybe not, he will never know if he doesnt act, and given OP is a very troubled person, I doubt meditation and reflection is a solution.
Only by doing, and acting accordingly and honest to the emotions encountered on the acting, may lead closer to one's true self.
>>
>>12034095
God isn’t the forgiving type I hear.
>>
>>12034140

I disagree. I had an intense bicurious phase in my early 20s, but never got the chance to act on it, now I don't even give a fuck because I have more important goals that playing in butt holes. I don't expect everyone to feel like I do, but my own experience made me really question the importance of the pursuit sex. I don't know know, I feel faggotry flowing through my veins, but I can't relate to those who feel less happy for not being able to act on it.
>>
>>12034174
>because I have more important goals that playing in butt holes
Such as trolling people on four chan dot org
>>
>>12034174
Have you ever though that your experiencie in life and feelings encountered, may be not the same as OP, for both of you are different people, with different emotions and lifes? A person is not equal to another, you cannot apply your personal experiencie and life history on others.
While your wisdom is appreciated, it's foolish to think 'Just because it happened to me, it's happening to you'.
This is why I encourage OP to find his own path, to find his true self, to act on his own, for nobody will spot him the correct way, but himself.
Given, I rather have him reaching mental and spiritual peace to find his true self; meditate and reflecting, using both intellect and philosophy to discover himself is a way safer path than acting based on his carnal desires, which may lead into dangerours ways, diseases, bad relationships, etc, but considering how troubled OP looks, his issues might cloud his judgement, and not everybody are capable to ponder over their own lifes. I also encourage therapy too.
>>
>>12034247

Oh I'm still a fucking loser degenerate, I just know playing in butt holes won't help my situation.

>>12034269
>While your wisdom is appreciated, it's foolish to think 'Just because it happened to me, it's happening to you'.

Obviously. That's why I'm still sympathetic to the plight of those like OP, I just don't understand it because sex never felt like a necessity to me. To me it just seems like a vice I could live with or without.
>>
>>12031705
Hmm, but aren't you defining yourself by a rejection of you sexuality right now?

It's 100% okay to not be involved in pride stuff or whatever. Leave that to the annoying gays.

No one else even has to know about how you really are unless you decide you want them to know.

The only important thing is that you be open to the idea that it's not your fault that you are the way you are.

Ultimately it's your life, do whatever makes you happy.
>>
>>12034383
You might see it like a vice, but what if, for example, OP only desires physical affection and intimacy?
It's not sex what he's looking for, but it's near it. Truth, you can have both of these things without sex, with just pure romantic love, however, at least in my opinion, sex is the apex of intimacy and physical affection, when both partners reveal themselves are they truly are, and accept eachother.
>>
>>12034383
you need to SEE THE LIGHT

once you have experienced the butthole you will CHANGE
>>
>>12034428
Cease.
>>
>>12034450
The duty of a butthole is to provide salvation to those in need. Denying the true nature of your butthole will only bring you suffering and misery.
>>
>>12034478
Kek.
I approve this satire.
>>
>>12034419

Yeah of course there is more to it than sex, there is true love, companionship and all that. I guess I don't really have the faith in myself to be able to find something like that, I just don't feel like looking for the needle in the haystack when I'm already relatively happy. I'm all for people pursuing love or even just degenerate sex, but when I see cases like OP or incels, I have to wonder if they couldn't achieve happiness another way.
>>
>>12034521
>I have to wonder if they couldn't achieve happiness another way.
Inexperiencie and inaction, desire to change that situation.



Delete Post: [File Only] Style:
[Disable Mobile View / Use Desktop Site]

[Enable Mobile View / Use Mobile Site]

All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective parties. Images uploaded are the responsibility of the Poster. Comments are owned by the Poster.