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A thread for people who started medically transitioning at 22 or later to share feelings, stories and problems.

>Why 22?
Because your bones are fused by 22-23, so your development is essentially over.
>Can I still join if I transitioned before 22 if...
No. You have every other thread on this board.
>Is this a hon general?
No. Late transitioners are less likely to pass, but it doesn't mean they can't. Some pass, some don't. For many of us it's all about lost opportunities in our youth.

Remember to be nice to fellow late transitioners and completely ignore youngshits.

Previous one: >>11999581
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Been boymoding for about 6 months now. Haven't come out to my parents yet (and unsure if I ever will). Shouldn't it be easy for someone my age? I already have my own place and income and shit, just fear disappointing them. How did it go for everyone else?
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>>12021331
Nah no matter the age it's always pretty hard I think. Maybe even harder when you're getting older and people are used to see you with your assigned at birth gender. As for it went, my dad didn't really care much (strange because he was probably the one reason I repressed for so long in the first place) and my mom went batshit insane at first, but she calmed down a bit now. It can honestly go both ways, but if I may say so, I'm actually happy I came out. I needed to get this off my chest. And, it might sound dumb, but I think it also was like a step in the way of really accepting myself and be more confident in who I am. Your experience may very though of course, so good luck, no matter what you decide to do.
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>>12021331
Went great for me, was in your situation but i just couldnt handle the pressure of feeling like i was lying to them whenever they asked if something else was up. I think they noticed pretty quickly something was up with me, not changes but how i acted, i don't have a poker face.

But yeah it was pretty nice to tell them, like those thoughts were out of the mind now and feel more free. They all support me too which is nice even if i don't need them to survive.
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>>12021093
I started estrogen just before turning 23 and I turn 30 next month.

I've been trying to find a place to ask on here tonight, where do people typically go online (or IRL, I guess) to meet like-minded people.

As someone in the mid to early 30's, how do you make friends online or otherwise. Where do you go? When I was younger I used OkC until i got banned last year, but that was all I ever had, other than 4chan, which I only discovered in 2017. Okcupid was like, all I had, since I was 19. And now I feel like I'm 19 again and I just have nowhere to go.
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>>12021093
Always love your pics OP, keep the good work. I was almost happy the previous thread died, because I knew you were going to post some new comfy picture lmao
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I can't take this shit!
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I'm over a year HRT but i still haven't come out to parents even though I live with them.
Just feel like they'd consider me to be invalid and find ways to criticise me both because I don't pass and the age that I started, basically say the stuff that I said to myself to explain why I was dysphoric, it's so scary.
Not sure if anybody has noticed yet, my parents stare at me occasionally which they never really did before so perhaps they think something's up.
Any advice?
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I'm never going to tell my family, I won't pass so I can hide it indefinitely. They would just hurt me if they knew.
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>>12022031
>>12022060
I came out to my parents before hormones because I'm too stupid to learn how to get hormones on my own.
I've always just wanted people to help me because I'm retarded and can't help myself. You people are really smart to actually know how to get hormones off the internet. I don't think I would have been able to figure it out. Thank God my family isn't so evil as to kick me out or refuse to help me.
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>>12021938
Thank you! Though I wish thread didn't die due to discord.
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>>12022031
Similar situation here, except I've pretty much decided to permaboymode. My parents would never accept me as a girl and I'm too masculine to ever pass as one too, so it's not really a question for me.
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>>12022117
Eh the general board is pretty slow anyway these days I don't think the Discord really killed it. Anyway, these threads are the only reason I'm still browsing /lgbt/ so I thought you deserved a thank.
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Reminder that there's hope.
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>>12022609
That's the theory. The reality is that I'm masculine enough so that a guy sleeping with me would be extremely homosexual.
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>>12022609
I hope there's hope, but it seems hopeless.
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>Tfw your gender psychiatrist implies you might just be a repressed faggot
Kek
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>>12022883
Mine did the same. Tell him to take a fucking hike.
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This tiny little sliver of the trans community here in this thread is the only place I can stand.
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>>12022893
Same. I wonder if it's because of the stoicism pretty much everyone here had to develop to even get this far.
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>>12022889
Lol i would, too bad she is guarding the golden treasure of legal hormones and cheap surgeries.
>>12022893
Same, its our duty to too uphold this.
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>>12022893
This

Also, late transition general >>> repression general
Fuck those guys
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>>12023003
Agreed. So glad I got out of there.
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>tfw 22 now, started transition at late 21, and feel like I don't fit in with either the late tranners or early tranners here at all.
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>>12023077
I have the same problem. This place comes closest for me, though.
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>>12022690
>>12022630
Seemed hopeless for me, now I'm passing and with a boyfriend.
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>>12023122
You probably misjudged your chances, but I'm glad it worked out for you. Hopefully, it will for the rest of us as well.
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>22 is considered late
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>>12023138
Yeah I did. That's my point. A lot of people here are probably misjudging their chances.
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>>12023149
I'm most likely guilty of that as well, so I don't even know what point I was trying to make.
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>>12023172
I believe in you anon-nee
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>>12023189
That makes one of us. Thank you.
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>>12022883
Funny and sad.

Just look confident in your sexuality, so she won't bring that crap anymore
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>>12022117
I'll just leave this here.
https://discord.gg/en38zq
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>>12023553
>>12022117
did someone start a ltg discord last thread?
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>>12023559
About two threads ago due to youngshit interference.
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>>12023308
Lol yeah you are right!
How does one person look confident in its sexuality when you have been repressing the part about liking men too, but that only krept up as you admitted to yourself that you are trans?
I feel so fucked up from my own thoughts and how i pushed every emotion away.
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>>12023594
Just explain to them that there is absolutely no reason for someone to choose being trans over being gay in today's political climate.
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>>12023594
>>12023610
This. My life would be so much easier if I were just a fag.
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>>12021895
>Banned from OKC
>Wonders how to make friends

Hmm...
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I'm sorry for ruining our friendship janners
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I'm so jealous. How can I stop being jealous of cis and other trannies?
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>>12023872
Those are unicorns and you know it.
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>>12023875
Buckle up, because the ride never ends
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Who's from the old /TGG/ Trans Girl Generals?
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>>12023875
I avoid going outside
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>>12023941
Depends where they live and that privilege ends as soon as someone outs them.
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>>12023941
Yes, in Iran.
In Bay area? No.
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>>12023941
Do you want gay men to become women just so they get treated differently?
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>>12024101
In an ideal world there would be no gay men.
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>>12024122
Yikes, I don't like the sound of that.
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>>12024122
I'd tell you to fuck off but this trolling is actually a breath of fresh air compared to youngshits.
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>>12023610
Lol, how true, why would anyone wanna choose this life? Although the shrink do seem to think it's very "popular" to be trans now. Fuuuugg, not only am i a late tranny, also chose the absolute wrong timing of trying to transition because they probably think i do it because it's trendy.
Ugh, i just wanna get treated. I'm there to get treated, not disqualified.
>>12023672
Lol, yeah, fuck this life. However being a fag or the act of homosexuality of man+man disgusts me a bit.
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>This is "late" transitioning to you all
I'm done here. I've seen people transition successfully in their 40s, folks. Relax.
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>>12024933
Anything past 16 is late for these people.
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>>12024933
It's more about missing out on your 20s than failing to transition to me. You're basically forced to start your life as a fully formed adult.
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>>12023142
Only by people with no grasp on this sort of thing.
We're dealing with extraneous hormones here. OP is right that bone structure *generally* solidifies at roughly that age, but fat still moves around, muscles still redevelop, skin still adjusts, hair follicles react, and much, much more for a good two to three more decades.

This board is far too "It's either X or nothing" deterministic.
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>>12024976
To be fair I was the exact same way when I first found out about HRT nearly 10 years ago. I thought I was too old at 18 and since I was done puberty it would do nothing. So I repressed harder. Now I'm nearly 27 and the dysphoria never went away and I have wasted my life up to this point.
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>>12024955
Methhon is that you?
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>>12025049
It is though? How is that a false statement?
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>>12025055
I wasn't disagreeing with you, I just wanted to know if it's you.
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>>12025186
I've never used a trip/name ever so probably not.
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Do I count as a late transitioner if I've been taking spiro/hormones on and off since 20-21 (in a 2 months on, 4 months off kind of way) but haven't started taking them consistently until I was almost 23?
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>>12026068
If you want to. Do you want to?
It's a kind of arbitrary distinction either way. I wouldn't shoo you out, but I'm just one anon.
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>>12026068
Why the hell did you do that?
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What's the worst part about transitioning late? For me it's a mixture of two different things: I'll never have a body I feel comfortable with due to how fucked my bone structure is, but the constant regret about having wasted my best years as a miserable repressed, depressed, depersonalized wreck is equally painful.
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>>12030703
Pretty much the same. My body is not masculine at all for a boy, but pretty bad for a girl. If I started earlier, I would have achieved much better results, probably could have had normal girl body.
But I'm also socially broken; I'll never get to experience teen age as a girl. I was a depressed mess and I'll never get those years back. I don't think I'll ever be a normal girl even if I wake up with a perfect cis body.
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>>12030703
Hopefully I never sufferred too much from lost opportunities. I mean of course I would have love to just enjoy my youth and best years as a girl. But I still had to experienced other interesting things who makes overall my memories- I wouldn't say "happy" but - at least very "bearable".
For me now, it's really just knowing how my skull is FUCKED today and the regret of not acting sooner because of this.
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>>12030703
Physically / Medically
>HRT does less and less as you get older which means the physical effects of HRT are underwhelming.

Personally
>You might have known from a young age but got gatekept. These people may now accept you but years ago they might have been content to let you die. The regret of not 'pushing' harder for transition at a young age, even risking death, is a substantial burden.
>You might have depression or depersonalization from your experiences which adds to the list of problems a trans person has.
>The underwhelming results of HRT can induce depression and mean that you need FFS just to 'deal' with yourself. This has a substantial cost attached.

Society
>People say they don't discriminate against you. It's just 'unfortunate' then that a lot of what happens to you seems to fit into a general puzzle that proves there's something mysterious going on (being made redundant 2 months before SRS or not getting calls back after a face-to-face interview). >People are surprised when you have it in writing you got discriminated against not because the discrimination exists but because the dumb fucks were stupid enough to put down their reasons in writing.
>People treat you as a curiosity at best and as a freak at worst.
>You can't stealth. This means you're Trans 101 for every lowkey /pol/tard who misinterprets Cecilia Dhejne or wants to 'debate the ethics of transition' with a trans person in real life. God help you if someone wants to debate younger transitioners or says it's a good thing you didn't transition early.
>There's the risk of public harassment and no-one will really step in to defend you minus give the harassers disapproving looks.

Trans community
>You can't relate to support groups because most tranners are WAY too old and in their 50's or really young and transitioned at an age that makes you jealous or sad.
>Tranners that are 18~ and started HRT at 15~ are suicide material when they say society accepts tranners.
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>>12031435

I have to go to an electrolysis appointment in 15 minutes, but now I'm just sitting here wondering if I should give up on myself.
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>>12031495
Just go to the electrolysis appointment. Chickening out is probably the worst thing you could ever do if you're trans.
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>>12031495
Don't! You will feel worse for not going.
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>>12030703
Being cheated out of the life I wanted is always going to hurt me. My body was never going to be good with my parents but losing all the years I could have enjoyed and grown to being depressed all the time is something I can never get back. I would have been a whole different person otherwise and maybe made something for myself.
I don't think I can recover even if there was super surgery that could salvage my body, I think I am permanently stunted.
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>>12031435
I know literally all of these feels. Fuck this gay Earth.
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How are you supposed to get electro as a socially anxious boymoder? I'll probably gets lots of weird stares and such.
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>>12030703
Just like how fucked up i got by not getting treatment. All that pain and all those memories of how my life basically was torned apart. It's killing my mood every once in a while, i can't function properly and i will probably never truly have someone close to me.

Whenever i tell stories of how it were and their jaws hit the floor and tell me how fucked up i had it. But it's also the only way of life i've ever known. And it's fucking me up in day to day stuff even if i can hold down a job because i'm way too overqualified for my work.

Transition wise i know i'm fucked. Atleast my body is and i will probably never be able to properly be in girlmode. And i also just feel lost. I don't know anything about fashion. Makeup scares the crap out of me. Just all of this, trying to learn this shit in my late twenties, i fear i will just be ridiculed. And it's not helping my depression or social anxiety problems either.

The worst fucking part is that it's the worst timing ever to do anything about it. I feel like they are gatekeeping me because they think due to it's popularity i'm doing this. And how i have to like validate my dysphoria to them to get treatment. I hate, hate, hate this and especially since i can't really put into words how the dysphoria feels like, especially not how i felt back as a kid with this shit. I didn't have words for it because i didn't knew better, all i knew was that i had to be a woman. I knew i was scared of turning out a woman before puberty, like somehow it was a mixup and then later on i just craved to be a woman. Porn fucked that up good and i don't want to tell them that either, because they will gatekeep me out of it's just a fetisch reason. I fucking hate all these assholes, i just need some fucking help even if it's probably too late to just live a normal life that i've been wanting.
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>>12031611
Nah, don't worry, nobody gives a fuck about you (the horrible truth that's making me cry everyday). It's your anxiety talking.
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>>12031611
Just get it done. The people don't care and they see it enough anyway. If you're getting just your face done then it's possible they won't even notice you're trans (I knew a laser tech who worked there for years and said "I've never met a trans person before!" after I outed myself during face laser).
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>>12031611
I only got laser but it wasn't a problem at all. No stares, no weird questions. It isn't *that* weird for an AMAB to not want facial hair.
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>>12031633
>It's your anxiety talking.
I kinda know this, but still I can't help but worry.
>>12031638
I'll be doing my face, but I want more after that.
>>12031641
>It isn't *that* weird for an AMAB to not want facial hair.
Is it really? Isn't the whole procedure pretty much pointless if your testosterone levels are not nuked, since hair will just keep growing back?
I honestly expect to be the only AMAB there, given that I live in a conservative place. And it makes me *really* anxious.
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>>12031611
You worry too much. When I was first getting laser my dermatologist mentioned how she had some done, how shes had other men come in wanting hair removed, its not uncommon.
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>>12031659
Huh. I guess I should really stop worrying about it.
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>>12031650
I think if you're on T you'll simply need more touchup sessions. And there are certainly cis men who want to live without facial hair, whether it be for convenience or aesthetics, or because their skin reacts badly to shaving.
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>>12031611
You worry too much, people just won't find out you had laser or electro. First, don't ever underestimate the capacity of people to not give a fuck. Second, a person without beard isn't that weird, some guys never grow one at all, and if people ever were to notice your soft cheeks, they will just assume you shave closely, before thinking of something else.
There are tons of reasons that could lead you to be clocked as a trans, but not having beard isn't really one of them honestly.
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>>12031698
I'm not worried about people finding out, I never had any prominent facial hair. Even if I stop epilating it, it won't be that noticeable. I'm worried about the procedure itself.
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>>12031611
I spent a year worrying about it and not starting it when i should have and it's really not that bad anon.
Just go for it and ignore everyone else, you'll realise it's worth it once you don't have any hair there.
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>>12031702
Oh if that's just that, then there's even less reason to worry about. The other patients in the waiting room won't know it's for your face and all the dermatologists / electrologists are very professional and won't ever judge you for that (they just want your sweet bucks). Also like another anon said some cis guys also do it from time to time, some to make their beard less messy, some even to get rid of it. It happens.

As for the rest of the body, it's even more frequent to see cis guys do it.
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>>12031435
Is your dad really an AGP repressor who gatekept you?
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>>12031783
YES. IM STILL MAD.
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Is this stuff really genetic? I might suspect my dad to be something like a repressor.
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>>12031851
Its just a joke, I doubt it is something that can be passed down.
What makes you think he is repressing?
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>>12031861
he talks in a faggy voice sometimes, had depression in his 30's, always super sensitive about his baldness and wears leggings with no regret in his 40's.
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>>12031866
Uh oh. Hope he didnt gatekeep you.
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>>12031869
nah he just beat the shit out of me.
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>>12030703
>the constant regret about having wasted my best years as a miserable repressed, depressed, depersonalized wreck
hey are you me?
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>>12031866
>wears leggings with no regret in his 40's
lmao what the fuck

what kind of leggings are we talking about here?
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>>12031873
Parents are awful.
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>>12031497
>>12031567

thanks senpaitachi, i ended up going and im glad i did!
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So a followup question. As far as I know, you need to remove all hair from your crotch prior to SRS, right? How on earth am I supposed to do that? I'll die of embarrassment.
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Can somebody please just tell me that its possible to pass and be cute and happy with your body in your 30s, even for some people who transition in their late 20s? I dont expect anyone to reassure me that this will definitely happen in my case, but I just need to know that what I’m trying to do isn’t impossible entirely. Its a little light at the end of the tunnel I can hold on to during my transition that motivates me to keep going ;w;
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>>12031913

electrolysis desu, yeah it sucks but thats th only way to properly do it to prepare for GRS.
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>>12031916
Yeah, I know how. But I'll either have to do it as a boymoder or a girl with dick. Both options suck.
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>>12031918
I'm not sure which would be more embarrassing.
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>>12031913
Try to find an electro place that's used to dealing with trans people. Write them an email telling them you're a pre-OP transwoman who is looking to get hair removal in the genital area in preparation for her surgery, and ask if they do that sort of thing.
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The farther along i get in transition, the more painful my dysphoria becomes. Like, my remaining masculine features drive me far more crazy than they did before, and Ive started to develop intense social dysphoria where previously there was little to none (Im boymoding for now though I hope I can go full time someday). What the fuck is going on?
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>>12032394
Yup that happened to me. It eventually drove me to girlmode and things have gotten much better since.
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So i got a call from my parents (or mom but she speaks for my dad too) and she asked about my appointment with my psychiastrist and how it went and all that. And then she brings up she is wondering if i have got a diagnosis yet. And i'm like no, we have only talked. Then she brings up that it's common for people to make things like that and then regret it later. And this is starting to bother me like do they think i'm going to regret it, or do they want me to back off with all of this?

I fucking hate how i never said anything until i was 27. FUCK all people, like seriously can you stop fucking question my life and choices. it's not even a fucking choice i'm just trying to treat this fucking thing and it feels like the whole world is trying to make me not treat it, just go along normally and pretend like nothing ever happened. Doesn't help they wanna go slowly and just talk to me at the gender clinic too. Fuck this gay fucking earth if i live another normal fucking year of my life, i'm gonna die, don't they fucking realise this?! Like i'm going to kill myself if i have to live as a guy.
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>>12032418

Glad to hear things got better afterwards. I guess I’ll have to do the same thing soon, I feel like boymoding will eventually drive me crazy.
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>>12032448

If it helps, I started at 27 too (Im 28), and my mom reacted exactly the same way as yours did. If youre having a hard time getting HRT, remember that DIY is an option. Ive done some amount of that as well so I can help if you have questions too
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>>12032512
Thanks, sure it helps. I'm on diy already yeah but i want the legal stuff bc they offer so many other nice stuff.
I don't know my, they said they were supportive but now like they say stuff like this. I don't know, i feel like i'm being questioned by the whole world instead of helping me out you know.
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>>12030703
>social experience of a 12yo
>general life experience of a 12yo
>giant gap in "career" and education from being a alcoholic hikkineet meaning if i ever make it to a job interview i'll have to explain why i randomly spawned at 30
>wasted the prime time of my life on masturbating and drinking instead of developing skills or at least doing something fun like watching anime
>short period of being hypersocial means i can't really be stealth without moving either
>i'll probably never look like i want to
>i'll probably never have sex like i want to
>might just end up as the worst of both worlds
>will never be attractive
>will never have any respect for myself as a person due to completely failing my own values by becoming some beta repressor and knowing my tendency to hold petty grudges forever i set myself up for a lifetime of self-disgust.

>>12031612
>I knew i was scared of turning out a woman before puberty
Same in reverse, I thought it's just me.

>>12031851
>>12031861
Anecdotally lots of trans people have trans relatives, I'm personally betting at a genetic component.
AMAB GD was linked to specific genes before, the few twin studies had a decent concordance rate (a bit higher for amabs). I might google links later if anyone is interested.

>>12031914
It's possible, look up Natalie Mars. It's genetics mostly.
That said getting your hopes up for shit to get good and not just better than it is now is just setting yourself up for a disappointment later.
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>>12032548

glad youve started on HRT, that at least takes away some of the urgency though it really sucks to get gatekept by doctors like that. Are there any informed consent clinics in your area? Sometimes if you live close to a large city you can find one.

I know exactly what you mean by that too. I really don’t understand why people often react so poorly to this stuff. I think in many cases it takes time for parents to understand how to be supportive because they may not yet fully understand what youve been going through or how they can best be helpful. It may be that you’d need to just be patient and explain stuff to them until they understand better. I cant guarantee that itll end up well, but many times parents get better as time goes on.
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How are you supposed to find a bf as a late transitioner even?
Not only I'm inferior to cis girls (obviously), but I'm also vastly inferior to pretty transgirls who look much better than I ever will. I just want someone already. I'm getting crazy from never having someone.
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>>12032767
You were supposed to find him before transition silly
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>>12032736
Not a single person on either side of my family is trans. If there ever was one they are long dead or committed suicide ages ago. One gay uncle on my dads side and my sister is a dyke. That's it for LGBTQ family members.
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>>12032777
I guess I'm screwed then.
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>>12032736
If anyone in my family is trans, they hid it really well. Maybe hating trans women whenever they show up on tv is a clue but both parents would never pass anyway.
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I started at 29, 35 now. It could be better, but it’s much better than pre-hrt. While I still have my ups and downs, I’m much happier now.
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>>12032736
Apparently brain of a 12yo in general because I'm still proud that I made a post with exactly 1488 characters.

>>12032783
>>12032792
None in my either, having some heritability just means it's not unusual to have a trans relative, not that every trans person will have transgender relatives.
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>>12032850
>Apparently brain of a 12yo in general because I'm still proud that I made a post with exactly 1488 characters.
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>>12032745
Thanks! Yeah it does, nope, it's government run programs, i live in a socialist country :/

Yeah you're probably right, i just thought it was such an insensitive thing to say since i have struggled with those thoughts a long time of maybe not doing it because i will regret it and now they are questioning me when i finally admits to myself i need to do something about it. Probably just a lack of understand though. Thanks for reassuring me.

>>12032736
>Same in reverse, I thought it's just me.
Cool! Or not really but still to know i wasn't alone thinking like that.
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>>12032448
Perhaps they care for you and don't want you to suffer? Have you told them how you actually feel without hiding anything and without sugarcoating?
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>transition at 26
>about to turn 29
>no career and life is in shambles
>every day is the exact same
>think about killing myself every day
>spend my 20s depressed with no accomplishments of any kind
>transbian on top of everything
>tfw ywn have a wife, children or a family
I hope to someday soon be able to gather the strength to end the pain once and for all.
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Anyone else questions their validity because of late transitioning? The fact that I didn't transition as early as I could or at least tried to makes me wonder whether I'm really trans at all.
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>>12034133
Plenty of dumb kids out there transition only to detransition later due to dysphoria. Happens both ways but I don't see how transitioning late makes you less valid if you've had dysphoria your entire life. It's different if you went your entire life happy in your own skin and assigned gender then suddenly way later you think you're trans. That's more iffy IMO.
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>>12034133
I used to do that a lot, but now I'm kinda thinking, "I clearly feel comfortable with all my feminine traits (especially breasts) and uncomfortable with my masculine traits, and I don't think you could trick your brain into that, so I'm probably trans."
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>>12034133
No, but I also tried hard to no avail.
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>>12034133
No, I just think I'm retarded and deserve the dysphoria for being a defeatist brainlet
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>>12034178
I wasn't comfortable but I only managed to fully understand what's wrong with me in my teens. After that I tried to live as a boy whilst suffering from dysphoria. It didn't pop out of nowhere, but I feel like I didn't do enough back then.
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>>12033529
Yeah maybe? I know they care. Nope i've just really told them i've been qiuet about it for a long time, and how it took a long time for me to admit it but that i'm trans. That's what i've told them. I don't know how to tell the truth, cuz it involves really horrible shit.
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>>12034133

Im still fucking astounded that I went from the age of 15 to 27 wishing I could be a girl, fantasizing about being able to transplant my brain into a female body, or being able to take some kind of magical pill that would gradually turn you into a girl over time, and yet SOMEHOW i was completely unaware that HRT existed during this entire time. How the fuck does something like that even happen? I must be some special kind of brainlet.
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>>12034434
Must have found 4chan super late. I found out about HRT nearly 10 years ago on here but thought it was too late for me and that I was too fat and ugly. Lost a shit ton of weight hoping it would stop me from hating myself a little and it had no effect whatsoever because I wish I was a woman.
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>>12024971
This. I've got a career and shit where I actually have to be a public figure for my employer. It's a lot harder than just transitioning as a weed smoking college kid.
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>>12034434
I'm exactly the same. Probably even worse, because I also never linked my desire to be a girl, to being a transgender. Full autism I guess.

>>12034461
>Must have found 4chan super late
Not her, but yeah. Took me like one year at best to crack after I found out 4chan lmao.
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>>12034531
>Probably even worse, because I also never linked my desire to be a girl, to being a transgender.
Kinda hard to do with all the HSTS I always knew cause I played with dolls bullshit you normally hear
You can't know that what's wrong with you is called transgender if you never heard a description of transgender person that would match you.
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Even though almost everything sucks about my life, these threads always makes me feel happy and less shit. I love being able to talk with the reasonable people here and not the crazy ones from other threads, I love reading your stories, your feelings, and realise we have so much in common we can all understand how we feel. I love the sad yet solidary and comfy atmosphere of these threads. Thanks to them I met some great and kind people who showed me that even when we're wailing in pain, they can still listen, laugh and care.

I would have loved to meet you all in other circumstances. But I'm happy I could meet you anons at all.
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>>12022883
HRT made me like boys
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>>12034133
No. Just regret
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>>12033684
don't do it anon
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>>12023553
link is dead
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>>12023003
Most of them there seem to be on the verge of cracking though. The most successful repressors know to avoid anything relating to gender, which includes /lgbt/
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>>12036265
Pretty sure we all feel like that anon.
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Is it okay to post here if I started at 21 and six months?
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>>12037005
if you're respectful, why not
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I've been on hrt over a year and never told anyone. I don't think I'll actually ever really need to.
I guess I look kind of weird but no one seems to pick up on it that I'm trans.
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>>12036817
Link lives.
https://discord.gg/wnCrAG
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>>12032777
Is it possible to find a bi guy that values me for my personality (lol) and cares enough to treat me like a girl in private?
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>>12032767
find an mtf
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>>12034390
like what?
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>>12037093
Do you ever wish it were otherwise? I'm in the same boat but hear stories about others male-failing after a year or two (sometimes unintentionally), and that makes me envious
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>>12021093
>want to join discord
>hate the auto welcome bot
I just want to lurk without drawing attention damn
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>>12038655
You can delete it
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>>12038062
I don't like girls. I want a boyfriend.
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I’m so fucking sick of going on /mtfg/ and seeing these twink histronic fucks spam their selfies all the time.
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>>12039081
Then don't go there?
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>tfw transitioning at 25 and almost 26
life sucks and i have no hope tbhon
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>>12039081
I can barely stand seeing pretty zoomers on the catalog alone.

>>12040477
If I do manage to finally accept I'm trans I'll be 27 when I start. The non stop suicidal thoughts and depression are getting to a point where I'm going to do something stupid without thinking.
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One day I’m going to completely snap and start girlmoding full-time even though I dont pass yet, fucking help me aaaaaaaaaa I cant deal with it for much longer ;_____;
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>>12040799
Just do it. You can ease into it by wearing more androgynous female clothing and slowly add more feminine pieces to your wardrobe as you see fit. As a late transitioner, you cannot afford to waste any more time. You would be doing yourself a disservice by continuing to delay going full time.
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Do any of you neets want to play Sea of Thieves competitively?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cj5OqES89dE
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>>12040937
I don't play bad games.
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>>12040937
I want rare to make another Viva piñata. Or at the very least release trouble in paradise on pc. Until then I ain't playing any of their shit.
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>>12040799

This is what I did. I think it's important because you make mistakes and learn what not to do.
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>>12041000
I agree with these replies.
This general is pretty based tbhonky
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I CANT DEAL WITH THIS GATEKEEPING ANYmORE
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if dubs I'll not get some alcohol today
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How do you boymode with long hair? I currently look like a teenage boy with hair that clearly doesn't belong on boys. I don't want to cut it, but I also don't want to look stupid.
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>>12041121
Me too, hency why i'm on diy even before starting dealing with those people. I'm smug as fuck whenever i stroll in there now with my hips and tits pretending like it's just fat.

Get on diy asap anon!
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>>12041155
Ponytail? Or go and buy some shitty band shirt and pretend you're a metal fan?
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>>12041000
This. There will be sort of an awkward phase before you find your style and things that look good on you, so it's best to get started as soon as possible.
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>>12041155
Just be on long haired boy aesthetic. Either put it up on a bun or keep it in a ponytail all the time.
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>>12041189
>>12041203
Can't really get in ponytail for variety of reasons. Guess I'll have to wait.
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>>12041155
>I currently look like a teenage boy with hair that clearly doesn't belong on boys
Show me for a few good laughs.
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>>12041221
Why not?
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>>12041245
Basically I had bangs before and I didn't cut them for a while, so I have this hair in front of my face which is long, but not long enough to put in ponytail.
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>>12041252
Are people staring at you or treating you differently when you are in boymode? Or are you even failing boymode at times?
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>>12041278
Well, I'm always in boymode, but yeah, people do treat me differently. I get weird stares in public transport and there's a good chance my appearance in male bathroom might stir up the hive. Some store clerks also led me to female section when I asked about certain non-gender specific items. Randos seems to call me a girl especially if I don't open my mouth (since my voice is shit), but some, especially older people, seem to think I'm a girl even after I put up my retarded mickey mouse voice. Long hair works wonders because otherwise it would have never happened.
>>12041234
Laugh all you want because I'm dead inside anyway.
unsee.
cc/3162c3ec/
Hope you had a good laugh!
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Im 20
fuck my Bone structure
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>>12041660
So fuck off?
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>>12041660
All I see is a fattie. Can't really tell what your bone structure is.
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>>12038518
I guess sometimes I wish it were different. Though when I first started most of my anxiety was over social transition (I guess it still is). So I suppose it's not the worst thing in the world.
Like I've had changes but honestly I just look younger and slightly strange. People's behaviour toward me seems different than before but I don't think it's because I'm a girl it's simply because I look like a young fem guy.

I've contemplated breast removal but maybe I'll wait and talk to a therapist first. I've waited close to 1.5years to see a gender therapist now so I guess I might as well get something out of it. They apparently don't give full hrt regimens if you're boymoding so I'll still have to diy anyway so all I can get from my therapist is an orchi referall (which I'm still not 100% sure I'll get) and general mental help. For the bulk of transition related stuff they don't help as much unless you socially transition apparently. I have a counselor (like a psychologist) to help me transition and she confirmed they typically only do low dose spiro with low dose E for people not socially transitioning.
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>>12041387
Nice! What's keeping you from going into girlmode then?

Maybe just use a hat or a baseball cap to hide the hair if you don't want to be gendered as a female?
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>>12041742
>What's keeping you from going into girlmode then?
I don't really pass upon closer inspection. I guess you didn't see a pic I posted there. Also my voice is a dead giveaway. But generally if there's 1% chance of me being clocked every day, I won't take it. I don't want women to call security on me if I visit a bathroom, for instance.
Plus I might get kicked out.
>Maybe just use a hat or a baseball cap to hide the hair if you don't want to be gendered as a female?
Well, it's not that I *don't* want to be gendered female, but it puts A LOT of pressure on me. When someone calls you a girl and you reply with a manvoice... yeah, it's not exactly the best feeling.
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>>12038998
what if she was in boymode
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>>12041844
She'd look feminine and that won't change who she is on the inside. I want a bf with dominant personality. And I'd also like parts about her that she hates the most. It won't be good for either of us.
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>>12040823
What am I supposed to do with beard shadow if I can't afford laser and shit?
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>>12041759
Oh no, i saw your pic you got very nice hair. But i understand your concern though, can't be easy. Get starting on working on that voice to fool them. I don't know the pressure since i don't get gendered female but maybe hiding the hair underneath some headwear might help you until you feel ready?
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>>12041150
if dubs i'll eat some cookies today
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>>12041387
re-up
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>>12041910
What for? Just imagine a teenage boy with long hair.
>>12041877
>Oh no, i saw your pic you got very nice hair.
Thanks, I actually struggle a lot with it due to skin condition.
>Get starting on working on that voice to fool them.
Yeah, I know, I tried, but I just can't change resonance no matter how much I try.
>but maybe hiding the hair underneath some headwear might help you until you feel ready?
I do it in winter, but right now it's warming and soon I won't be able to do that anymore.
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How does one get over anxiety of growing their hair out? Am boymoding now but I have a shitty hon skull. I'm afraid the moment it gets past a certain length, everyone will immediately clock me as some loser who wants to be a girl
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>>12042064
Long hair is beautiful and perfect on men and women. As long as you aren't balding or thinning. Fuck what anyone else thinks.
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>>12042076
what if I'm thinning
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>>12042114
Maybe try to get that fixed before growing it out? At least trying some stuff.
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>>12041965
>Thanks, I actually struggle a lot with it due to skin condition.
Ok, you seem to be doing well work with it though so you might be on to something in working against your condition.
>Yeah, I know, I tried, but I just can't change resonance no matter how much I try.
Ah, sorry. I can't help you though since i don't really know how but i manage to change my resonance. I think we have had convo here before about this if you're the anon i'm thinking off.
>I do it in winter, but right now it's warming and soon I won't be able to do that anymore.
Okay true, why not get a baseball cap or some cool hat to wear? It will hide it too if you don't want to deal with the pressure.
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>>12042076
idk, but I know I'm a coward. Having short hair means plausible deniability mean it comes to the trans thing; haven;t come out to anybody yet, nor do I ever forsee myself doing so
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>>12042143
Like?
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>>12042159
Hrt, minoxidil, and microneedling is about all you'll need
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>>12042144
Yes, I was that anon in previous ltg asking about voice and stuff.
>Okay true, why not get a baseball cap or some cool hat to wear? It will hide it too if you don't want to deal with the pressure.
It looks kinda dumb during summer. I think I'll manage somehow.
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>>12042453
>Yes, I was that anon in previous ltg asking about voice and stuff.
Ah cool! Or not, sorry you haven't found out a solution yet. You maybe already have seen this video but it's a longshot, my gf managed with that video to really get a good voice (imo).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6ro2R3esHA

>It looks kinda dumb during summer. I think I'll manage somehow.
Okay, good luck!
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>>12042530
Yea, I posted that video when some anon asked for guides. I really don't get the part about larynx, and the followup video was more confusing than it had to be (the whole thing about "pulling" your larynx back was basically a fiction).
>Okay, good luck!
Thank you. I probably wouldn't have cared much if it wasn't for my social anxiety.
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>>12042554
lmao, that was me too wtf! Is it only me and you in thread or something.
maybe instead of focusing on the larynx, have you tried like putting your hand on the chest and try out like making sounds without the chest vibrating?
>Thank you. I probably wouldn't have cared much if it wasn't for my social anxiety.
Ah yeah, iktf. It's not easy.
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>its a lay in bed for 12 hours cataloging all the reasons I'll never pass and crying episode
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>>12042745
I do this too, but instead I think about all of the signs that I was trans in the past but didn't notice or ignored at the time
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>>12042812
Part of mine is also reliving all the times I was in pain in the past because of trans stuff and the emotions hit me harder than they did when I was experiencing them.
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>>12042745
Mostly this, plus eating cookies/drinking like other kind anons ITT suggested
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>>12042871
This. Fuck this and fuck past memories.
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>>12042871
>remembering random anon horror stories and crying
>try to spin it into schadenfreude
>crying even harder because i realize even if it's all fake it could've happened to me and i don't want bad things to happen to me
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>>12043173
>think about fake situations in which someone cares about me and I am mean to them
>get weird pain/enjoyment out of the non real self-destructive behavior
>cry because I'm stupid and just want someone to care about me
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>>12043259
>imagine someone beating me up for being a tranny or just being mean
>feel good and satisfied
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>>12043300
>imagine myself in an abusive relationship and think about how much I hate myself and how much I deserve to be hurt

why am I like this
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>>12041155
You look like somik so just girlmode already!
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>>12043387
>somik
literally who
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>>12043995
The ruski youngshit
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>>12044042
I guess some men were just born to be girls. I wonder what the FTM equivalent would look like
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>>12044084
buck angel, looked like a dude even before T
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>>12021093
I'm 20 and turning 21 this September, am I going to be a hun if I don't start soon?
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>>12044123
It depends on what you look like lol
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>>12044133
Thank God I'm a fucking QT 3.14
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>>12044144
So no then? Why even ask if you already know you're cute lmao
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>>12044089
I can see some of it, but I think it might've just been the short hair
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>>12044084
Buck Angel looked like a lesbian and sounds like a smoking woman. He does look better than most FtMs, but Somik level would be looking more masculine than most amabs, she literally looks untouched by testosterone.

I think the most passable guy I've seen was Jammi Dodger. I'd also nominate Leith Ashley, but it might be my inner white person speaking.
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Going into /passgen/ is always anxiety-inducing. Too scared to post my face so I just check out others who look similar to me and see what the feedback is; seeing qt young transitioners in it always eats me up on the inside though
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>>12044711
Going in there at all spikes my suicidal thoughts about a million percent. I don't know how people regularly do it unless you're super attractive. It is gut wrenching.
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>>12044731
>Going in there at all spikes my suicidal thoughts about a million percent
Why? It's not bad if you don't post in there yourself. I don't really feel anything when I go visit
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>>12044738
Hah you must not be a late twenties monster like me then. I'm happy for you.
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>>12044752
Are you just starting out with your transition? I'm done with mine so that might be why.
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>>12044759
do you pass
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>>12044759
You could say I'm starting out yeah. I've repressed for 20 years. So seeing young people turn out well makes me feel like I have wasted my entire life up to this point and will never be happy.
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>>12044738
For me it's equal parts envy (zoomer tranners who look 100% cis) and and disappointment when those with arguably better faces than me post and are told, "You won't pass, even with FFS"
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>>12044767
Yeah, my transition turned out quite well in the end! The beginning is the hardest. Thinking back I used to feel shitty looking at timelines because I thought I'd never get there but I did.

>>12044774
You still have the rest of your life to be happy. Please don't beat yourself up over it. You can't get lost time back but you can make the most of what's left.
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>>12044788
Oh, yeah :/ Also I want to say that people in passgen tend to be really rude and some are plain hateful
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>>12044789
I'm an ugly friendless loser. Suicide is going to be the only answer for me. Whether I transition or continue to live a lie about being an asexual autist I will die alone regardless. Some people are not meant for this world and were true mistakes. I'm unfortunately just one of them.
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>>12044845
>ugly
>friendless
>loser
These can all be changed, ya know! Things look bleak right now but it doesn't have to stay that way. Like, yeah I'm not gonna pretend you'll live normal life as a hon but even hons can be happy. Also, you aren't even guaranteed to be a hon if you're just starting out.
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>>12044802
I guess the issue is in trying to differentiate spiteful comments from actual, legit criticism. There doesn't seem to be anywhere else for it on the internet. Places like r/transpassing basically tell everyone that they look great and have a chance, even if it is painfully apparent otherwise
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>>12044867
What I've noticed with transpassing is that if you pass, you'll get upvotes. Filter by controversial and you'll see what I mean.
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>>12044859
If you saw me you'd openly laugh. There is zero hope for me. I'm a fucking insane idiot.
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>>12044845
Hey me too. My plan is to kill my old self with estrogen and make a new self from the ashes
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>>12044859
Hm. Usually I'm jealous of other transgirls because of their appearance, but this is the first time in awhile where I've been jealous of someone's attitude. Grats on the positive outlook
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>>12044896
Estrogen won't help me at this point. Just have to hold out for reincarnation I guess. My fault for being a stupid fucking retard as a kid, and as a teenager, and as a young adult. For thinking I could hate and ignore the dysphoria away. Avoid the disappointment and shame I'd bring to myself and my family.
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>>12044877
oof you're right
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>>12044924
>estrogen won't help me at this point
stop being a defeatist retard, it's worth at least trying

if your life is so miserable then break away and start over
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>>12044924
Have you started HRT yet? It should at least bring some mental changes that will improve your outlook on life
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>>12044962
I'm just at the point where I'm barreling into my late twenties with this fucking disorder battering me in the brain more stronger than ever. I'm going to have to get on HRT. I was a retarded fucking idiot for being scared of it as a teenager out of fear of my dick not working. Now here I am a 27 year old virgin terrified of any sort of intimacy and confused by everything my entire life because I never actually wanted to use my dick. My entire life is a hilarious joke.
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>>12021093
who is Luna and what does that mean?
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>22
>Neanderthal profile
>Can literally feel my brow ridge aching as it grows
>At least 2 weeks away from HRT

It's not fair, I see so many baby men walking around with no idea how lucky they are
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>>12044789
Ok youngshit
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>>12045829
Brow ridge is one of the few things that FFS actually excels at fixing. I am mid 20s with a rib cage that no medical science will ever be able to fix in my lifetime.
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What should I say in my coming out text to my father?
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>>12046301
>coming out text
how about telling him in person instead of being a bitch
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>>12045113
Does anyone here have experience with antidepressants? I live my life sleepwalking from one day to the next, without the motivation to get up in the morning. Constantly I fantasize about doctors diagnosing me with some terminal ilnness; I'll be relieved since I don't have to wake up anymore

At first I thought these feelings were because of GD and being unpassable, but now I suspect there might be extra shit wrong with me that pills might be able to fix
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>>12046331
Because he would yell/scream at me and I would cry
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>>12045920
so bitter. she said nothing about her age
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>>12046334
I personally only tried them during my teens and they made me feel like utter shit so I stopped. I might try them again but I don't know. I'm just a mess atm.
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>>12046334
I heard that anti-depressants will make you care even less about life, possibly even pushing you over the edge to commit suicide
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>>12046345
If you are 100% sure that's the reaction you're going to get then don't even bother telling him.
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>>12046403
meh I'd tell him if I was going to ghost him right after
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>>12046403
My therapist told me they won't give me hormones unless I do. I'm already DIYing but I want injections...
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Even though I pass I'm scared to go to the bar and have fun. I wish I wasnt scared of guys. They check me out but I still equate being checked out with being clocked but now they just think I'm cute and it's really hard to disconnect those paranoid feelings from reality. Reality is guys think I'm cute but I really started to believe when people called me a hon and stuff. But I'm no longer a hon. Ugh
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>>12046436
Wow, that's really fucking stupid. I thought the whole point of transitioning was to make your life happier, yet they gatekeep by making you jump through a bunch of retarded hoops and probably try to push you further than you might actually want to go. What's next? They're going to withhold hormones unless you socially transition?
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>>12046493
She really pushed me on why I haven't presented as female but I've only been once for a 2 hour intake thing so it wasn't that bad, or as bad as it could be. It was nice to talk to someone so affirming though even if I did just cry the whole time.

>>12046416
>>12046403
Yeah I'm not dependent on him and I don't like him so I'm semi-hoping he just will call me names and never talk to me again.
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>>12046471
post pics
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>>12046589
>but I've only been once for a 2 hour intake thing

Oh, sorry, I got the impression it was over a long period of time.
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>>12043387
I don't. Stop that.
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What's the thing that makes you unpassable? For me it's my expanded facial planes. My body is shit but I don't think it'd stop me from passing; my face however is just so absurdly gigantic nobody could ever mistake me for a woman even if I had a 10/10 cisgirl body.
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>>12048167
what the hell is a facial plane
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>>12048167
There is FFS for face but I don't think there is anything that can reduce ribcages or shoulders.
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>>12048188
There is shoulder width reduction surgery.
its done in korea, naturally.
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>>12048167
Face
>long midface
>shitty nose
>maybe some brow bossing, I can't detect it but I feel like it's there
>very, very male bizygomatic width
Body
>manshoulders
>no hips
>>12048198
Actually it's done in Japan, but you can get it in the US as well.
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>>12048212
>Actually it's done in Japan
meh, they all look the same to me
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>>12048217
Rude.
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>>12048167
My eyes are too far apart. I'm in the top 1 percentile for men in interpupillary distance. My jaw is very broad, and I also have a fivehead.
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>>12048178
It's the dimensions of your face, proportionally larger for males than females. If you have expanded facial planes it'll make your face look "big" and manly basically. >>12042158 the pic in that post is an excellent comparison of female vs male facial planes. Both persons are of very similar height, but the one on the right has a massive masculine face with a huge long midface and chin compared to the one on the left.

>>12048188
FFS can only help to mildly resculpt your face by fixing certain features such as prominent brow bones, noses, chins etc. It cannot reduce your head size or shrink facial planes. Shitty body traits can be obscured with the right clothing, but you can't hide your face.
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>>12048245
>Shitty body traits can be obscured with the right clothing, but you can't hide your face.
Hijab
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>>12042158
what a horrible image.
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>>12048249
I live in like a 99% non-Muslim area. Wearing a hijab would be even weirder than looking like a hon.
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>>12048245
Do you have any data, like average measurements or proportions for each sex, that I could compare myself to?
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>>12048261
I was joking, sorry. I'm in the same situation myself.
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>people want me to find a job
>realize that I have zero interest in working or a future and just want to be home thinking about killing myself until I do it
>whole body hurts, everything is draining, can hardly get up anyway
death when
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>>12048258
Why? From what i can see it's just the face that's different, and you can fix that
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every time I get deadnamed it's like nails on a chalkboard
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>>12048265
http://anthro.cs.uni-freiburg.de/#colx=100&coly=63
This site is always helpful.
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>>12048245
>Shitty body traits can be obscured with the right clothing, but you can't hide your face.
>mfw I grew my curly hair so I can hide my face behind it. It legit makes hiding your male features a bit easier.
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Im 26 is it to late to transition
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>>12049145
Kinda, but with right genetics you might make it.
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>>12049145
It's late but it's never too late
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>>12049145
Never too late. Also you're bound to transition (or kill yourself) sooner or later. You might as well do it now, than repress and come bach here in a few years to ask us if 32 is too late.
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>>12042158
Fuck fuck fuck. This is the cruelest pic I've ever seen. It's so fucking suicide-inducing.
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>>12049196
Why?
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>>12049233
We are in /ltg/, and I'm not sure any of us would be on the left.
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>>12042158
God, when you start makes such a giant difference. I don't get why anyone would be against starting early.
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>>12049145
Try now so later on you won’t not trying sooner.
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>>12049290
*won’t regret not trying sooner.
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>>12049241
I doubt you look like the right either. And even she looks salvageable as her body isn't too different from the left and ffs is a thing
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>>12042158
How can right even smile on this picture? I would be boiling in anger, jealousy and self-hate if I was in her shoes. Who even thought this picture was a good idea to begin with?

Also, how screwed are we /ltg/?
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>>12049436
>Also, how screwed are we /ltg/?
Very unless you managed to pass despite late transitioning. But then you'd probably won't be in /ltg/.
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>>12049442
From what I've seen, people tend to stay on /tttt/ for a year or two and then leave when they start passing. The ones that don't/can't are unfortunately here forever
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>>12049790
;_;
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>>12049790
i don't wanna leave you even if i do pass, you're so wonderful and i wanna help out ;_;
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>>12042158
>1969+50
>science can put humans on the moon, but can't fix a few inches of bone that make all the difference between male/female heads
I guess it would be too much to expect it even within our lifetimes. I curse the skeleton inside me, that smug calcium-enriched fuck
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I crossdress 24/7 but will never transition... do I fit here? My life has gotten strange
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>>12049903
Why?
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>>12049925
I think, I just like to socially occupy a more femenine role and to have a style compatible to that, but at the same time I would not want to put my body through actual changes.
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>>12049944
Outside of social stigma towards men who act feminine, is there anything that is stopping you from doing that?
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>>12049962
It just feels that when you evaluate cost vs. benefits, I am happier and better off being some kind of "femenine man" than trying to actually do anything to my body in the ways of chemistry and surgery. 'Sides, I want to be able to start a family at some point if I ever get the chance.
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>>12049979
So you don't really have physical dysphoria, but you like being feminine? Or would you prefer to have a female body, but have objections to transitioning physically?
Do you present as a femboy or a trans woman or more enby trans with female pronouns?
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>>12049979
Then don't transition, but be more fem otherwise? Act/dress girlier, take care of your skin and hair, etc. And ignore anyone who gives you grief for doing so, since gender roles are primitive bullshit
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>>12050037
I think that... the best way to describe it, might be that mentally and "in spirit" I am predominantly female, but that I have no impulse to actually change my body - although I would at least try it if I were as easy as pushing a button.

I am pretty androgynous, so that makes me feel comfortable. I'd probably not think so if I had a very masculine body.

Also in a way I want to prove a point that it is fine to be a male and occupy a female social role and do female things.
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>>12050062
>I'd probably not think so if I had a very masculine body.
How old are you tho? Nobody really stays andro past 30 (but accepting this is part of the human experience)
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>>12050083
32, but I look much younger - it's been that way all my life.

I realized I wasn't gonna get any prettier though (even if I am fit), so I just decided to go for this before I'm some old creepy 60 year old dude in a dress. Now I am pretty and can get away with it, hahah.
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