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A thread for people who started medically transitioning at 22 or later to share feelings, stories and problems.

>Why 22?
Because your bones are fused by 22-23, so your development is essentially over.
>Can I still join if I transitioned before 22 if...
No. You have every other thread on this board.
>Is this a hon general?
No. Late transitioners are less likely to pass, but it doesn't mean they can't. Some pass, some don't. For many of us it's all about lost opportunities in our youth.

Remember to be nice to fellow late transitioners and completely ignore youngshits.
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>>11999581
>tfw never gonna have friends anymore
>tfw never gonna have a bf
>tfw the best I can settle for is guys that want to fuck me then never see me again
>tfw
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>>11999590
Same except I have a couple of friends left.
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Who is the queen of /ltg/?
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>>11999598
how'd you get them to stay?! were you pre-passing?!
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>>11999605
>how'd you get them to stay?!
They are nice people since they are not your average normalfags. My best friend is probably the reason I'm still alive.
>were you pre-passing?!
No, and I'm a twinkhon even now at best.
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>tfw wasted 15 years of just depression and repression thinking it was just a fetisch and i could just get rid of these thoughts the second i could quit my porn addiction and get a gf
>tfw get a gf, fall into even worse depression and general angst over having to fullfill the role of a man as expected
>tfw start hrt to try it out for 3 months
>tfw porn addiction goes away within a month

I hate myself for being this stupid. I should've done something the second i knew something was up at age of 9. But because of how i dealt with all of this in my teens i'm likely to get called a fetischist and get gatekept if i tell psychiatrists the truth. I fucking hate this life ;_;
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is this a depression thread or can we get some positivity in here
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>>11999718
>late transition
>positivity
Is good joke.
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>>11999718
It's a no youngshit thread. Meaning no you.
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>>11999599
You, uwu
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Here's a link to the discord for anyone interested.
https://discord.gg/zmeS6z
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>>11999729
oh what makes me a youngshit? is it my believe estrogen changes my appearance?

how bout you grow the fuck up and accept me instead of putting me on the defense.
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>>11999773
Stop killing the thread.
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>>11999777
nobody cares libby, if you transitioned before 22 you don't belong here. Not to be mean, just accept it and hang out in mtfg instead like you usually do.
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>>11999777
At what age did you start your transitioning?
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>>11999792
its' okay they're just talking about college and programming.
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>>11999802
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>>11999801
blow me faggot. i don't segregate like your niggers do.
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>>11999792
Nah.
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>>11999761
I'm flattered, but I'm not even a transgirl.
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>>11999837
Take your pills Alice
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>>11999792
>killing the thread

Haven't it been more active the last few days than it usually is?
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>>11999837
What are you then?
But it's probably anon, luckily we don't have too many attention-seeking tripfags here so the threads are a bit chiller.
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>>11999857
Cis guy into transgirls.
/ltg/ was Jannu the thread first 10 times or so, so I object.
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>>11999939
Okay, you seem to be the one knowing this stuff so you should be in the commité crowning a queen.
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I think I have to face facts that the people in my life are never going to understand. They didn't see anything wrong with me being a shell of what I once was for 2 decades and that isn't going to change even if they knew what was causing it all this time. All I want to do is save up, get a new job then move far away in here in the hopes that I can girlmode when there is no-one I know.
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Anyone else feels like they are too broken inside to have a normal life? All these years have taken a serious toll on me. Everything I do feels fake. I can't just undo my past.
I feel like even if I were to wake up fully passable/a cis girl tomorrow, it wouldn't fix me.
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>>12000235
Yeah. I have had a very shitty life void of any kind of intimacy or happiness. I would be afraid of being in a relationship at all regardless of the person being aware I have gender dysphoria. I think I missed so many key formative developmental stages I doubt anyone could stand to be in a relationship with me. Will probably die a virgin alone
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>>12000235
I could've written that.
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>>12000235
I think I would have to wake up with the last 21 years being a bad dream to even have a hope of having a normal life. I just feel stunted, like I never grew up past 12 and I haven't felt happy in a long time.
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>>12000286
Same, except I tried having them. But I'm really broken and it showed. I feel like I became stunted emotionally and the contrast between 17 year old me and current me in this regard is huge. I can't even cry that much anymore.
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>>12000343
I've never been a very emotional person in general because repression. It practically killed all my outer emotions until I periodically have breakdowns once or twice a year when I lose it and wail and sob like an insane woman. I don't think I've grown mentally since like 15 nearly 12 years ago.
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>>12000371
I used to be pretty emotional, I cried all the time, whenever I got bullied at school (which made it worse), whenever even a minor character on screen died, etc. I was very sensitive in general and people wouldn't stop commenting on it. Even when I tried to put up a facade, it was extremely easy to crack it. Later in my teens I started feeling anger at all injustice that's been thrown at me and adapted cynical approach to life, but again, it was easy to see me through.
But at some point my emotions dulled and I stopped feeling pretty much anything. At times I feel like I don't know what I am anymore, I don't know what I really want, I don't know what am I feeling even. Sometimes I have breakdowns, but even then I don't feel that much, it's just that lots of tears are pouring out and I hardly understand why and just try to stop it as much as I can. I learned to suppress my emotions at the time when I need it the least. I'm a hollow shell of a person.
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>>11999632
The issue I see here is the porn addiction. It is so taboo and shamed by society despite being relatively normal. A common treatment for porn addiction is a light anti-androgen dosage.
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>>12000495
Nah, the porn addiction was my outlet whenever i felt dysphoric. Like whenever i felt i didn't belong in this body, i wasn't like other men or felt like i needed to be a woman, it's how i handled it whenever i hit my teens. Before that i just cried myself to sleep. With a sex drive, i jerked off and cried myself to sleep.
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>tfw thought i looked better today, my hair has grown longer and i look more feminine
>take a picture at work, no makeup i look pretty good imo
>tfw get home, put on make up
>tfw i look horrible

Why is this? I know my make up is good but taking good pictures is impossible. Like i need to find some perfect angle when i can just take a pic without any problem when i'm with no makeup.

I feel pretty fucking suicidal about this, i look so much like a man in those pics i just wanna drop everything and kill myself. Fuuuck!
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>>11999632
Hello, me. Except in my case I'm like 99% sure it's just a fetish that got way too out of hand because I've indulged in it too much for 10+ years. The hormones have been helping, if for no other reason than the fact it kills my sex drive
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>>12000726
Not that anon, but can this happen? There's a sexual element to it for me, but I've also been disgusted by each and every of my male features since puberty.
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>>11999590
Unironically befriend other trans people.
You can still have a romantic partner, cis or trans, gf or bf. Even as an non-passing late transitioner.
Don't fuck around, it will only make you feel worse.
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>>12000235
me
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>>12000768
I assume for all fetishes, if you obsess over them long enough, you may eventually want to live them (essentially what Mr. Hands did I guess). Probably only applies to a select few degenerates tho. In your case it sounds more like genuine dysphoria
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>>12000726
Are you sure? That's how i fooled myself into thinking. Like it's just an addiction, i just started to pretend to be a woman masturbating to these images or videos and then it turned into gender transformation porn. Like it pretty quickly went to imagining myself to be woman from the moment i started with porn, i don't know if it was a fetisch or just like the brain switched on and made it an outlet get off the pressure of being male?

I doubt you can indulge in it too much so that you have to transition, maybe if you become obsessive about it? Nice that the hormones have helped you though, it took me like a month until my desires just went away. Feels pretty nice to be rid off it, i tried really hard at times but could never quit it.
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>>12000784
I'm gonna try! There aren't a lot of trans people around me in the midwest.
I'm also scared though. Maybe having /lgbt/ be my first impression of transgender people has poisoned my mind, but i'm really scared of not being passable enough and idk, making other trans girls look bad. If cis people don't want to be around me idk why transgender people would either.
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>>12000235
Yes? Or atleast nowadays it feels that way. Like i can't even function socially with others anymore, i've too deep of scars and it just feels like the world will hate me no matter what i do or look like, it's been that all my life. It's just the way it is and i hate all the other people for it. Like why should i bother with them?
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>>12000882
I'm in Iowa. and it's not that I get harassed at all, it's just that i seem to be unable to form social relationships due to all of this, like actual friends that wouldn't mind being seen in public with me. It's a lonely existence.
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>>12000898
I was legit thinking of moving to Iowa, not that that's either here nor there.

That sucks. If you were closer and vaguely near my highly advanced age I'd have at least offered. =(
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Does anyone else have kind of shitty skin even after years on hormones

The texture is all wrong and I have large pores
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>>12000920
are you post orchi or do you take spiro
do you know what old woman skin looks like
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>>12000920
I have very bad skin but it's unrelated to hormones. HRT made it dry instead of oily at least.
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>>12000932
im on spiro now but was on cypro for more than a year and a half

>>12000934
sucks and makes me feel even more masc
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>>11999581
Days like today make me feel good about myself. There are certain outfits and things I can wear that make my hon body seem a little better. Then everyone else around me isn't all that done up, and the people I run into are dumpy and fat, so I look like a fashionista almost and more put together than everyone else. It makes me feel confident, like yeah, looking hotter than these cis women and getting eyed by boys. But when I go around places with actual fashionistas and pretty women who are put together, I feel like a total sham. Like they are a real Rolex and I'm a totally legit Rolecks.
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>>12000958
looks like mine
it's upsetting!
spiro can change it.

sometimes i get sprio sick and quit for a few days
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>>12000958
looks normal desu
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>>12000860
I'm not sure, but aside from hating my male body/wanting to be more fem, I don't "feel" trans. There isn't anything remotely feminine about my thoughts, mannerisms or desires, and I don't care about wearing women's clothes, being referred to/seen as a girl by others, etc. Can't relate to other tranners who "know" they're women, albeit ones just trapped in the wrong bodies. At most, I feel like an autistic male or some kind of robot
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>>12000867
Looks are not everything. Many people look worse or better, and transgirls pass more or less.
It's really you as a person that matters most, not how you look. And if someone dismisses you based on appearance, then they weren't really worth your time.

Assume that everyone knows you are trans, that you are visibly trans, and remember that other people don't really care that you are trans. Being trans is not a bad thing.
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Who /long-term boymode/ here? I'm almost at 2 years mark and it's kinda devastating but I wouldn't be a hon at least.
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>>12000975
>>12000980
I want skin like this
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>>12001018
That doesn't really happen to cis women without makeup
Exfoliate regularly and hope for the best
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>>12001011
two and a half years

im not going out until i get ffs or at least until i get a hair transplant and a trach shave
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>>12000989
I agree with all of what you posted but it's still spooky!
>>12001011
Gave up boymoding 3 months in tbhonky
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>>12001028
I wish I knew how to take care of my skin
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>>12000696
big changes you're not accustomed to can sometimes make dysphoria worse, as things you might have learned to ignore otherwise can be highlighted slightly when seeing yourself in a very different look. I got a wig once to deal with dysphoria over not being able to grow it out, but I never wore it because it made me notice my face shape way more, which was unexpectedly worse.

now that I've grown it out a bit and gotten used to how it looks I feel a lot less intensely bad over it, and I can enjoy my hair. (hrt helps a bit, too)
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i wish i could be a digital entity. real life is fucking gay.
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>>12001084
Become a digimon anon.
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>>12001084
go mow your lawn ;)
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>>12000920
HRT nuked the acne but it's still splotchy and red. I'm too socially inept/poor to see an dermatologist, but I wouldn't be surprised if this was a common thing with an easy fix
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>>12000867
it helps a lot, honestly. most other trans people understand in ways cis people just don't, desu. it's nice to relate with people in other parts of life that aren't just dysphoric pain.

you don't have to enclose yourself completely but having some other trans people to hang out with can do a lot of good.
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>>12001100
i like this stuff
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>>12001011
6 months, until I got to change job.
1.5 year in, I'm getting SRS soon.
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Anyone considering inducing lactation? I started researching it because it's my fetish, but I've heard anecdotes here about how it helps breast growth/shape. Might be worth a shot since late tranners rarely reach Tanner V
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>>12001321
its fun
there's others here that do it more than me
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>>12001011
Nearing 4 years of boymode, no end in sight because hair removal is taking so long and I refuse to be a woman with stubble.
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>>12001321
I don't have the dedication to do what is necessary in terms of physical stimulation, if it were just taking another pill I'd do it.
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>>12001371
What method of hair removal and how long has it taken?
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>>12001422
Was doing laser for about two and a half years, it just didn't work well on me despite being a good candidate for it, it only got rid of patches here and there. Have switched over to electrolysis and that works a lot better, but it's slow, I probably have another half a year to a year left to be cleared.
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>>12001465
That's weird. How many sessions of laser did you get? I only needed 6 or so over as many months. It shouldn't take that long. They must've done it improperly.
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>>12001474
Quite possible; did more than 6, not sure exactly how many.
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>>12001411
Yea, I've also heard it's a bitch to start and maintain, not to mention dealing with spontaneous leakage or periodic milking. Would go for it if I was still a NEET but being employed full-time doesn't leave a lot of openings. There was an AMA somewhere on /gif/ for that lactating trap; they mentioned having to take a fuckton of "bathroom breaks" at their 8hr shift daily
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>>12001321
As soon as I get the money to purchase what I need I am.
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>>12001573
https://www.usa.philips.com/c-p/SCF334_26/avent-double-electric-breastfeeding-set
>300
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>>12001593
Yah, I'm very poor, very broke, and recovering from a $1,000 car repair two months ago, plus I need about 600 more in essential items first. So its a matter of getting money. =(
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>>12001600
>$1000
I wonder how much money you US people sink in into your cars.
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>>12001593
Jfc. At this point I think a boyfriend would be cheaper and more effective
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>>12001011
How do you deal with it?

This is my future but it hurts to think about..

>don't want to be stuck in transition
>will never pass

it's like my whole life is going to be purgatory
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>>12001614
Honestly I've been crazy lucky with mine. I've only had 2 repairs in 12 years (the car is 18 years old), both ~1,000. And I had to do standard maintenance a couple times (~$40) and brakes once (~$80). That's about a tenth of any car I've ever owned, and comes out to about...7 dollars a month. Plus $50/month insurance and ~$40/mnth gas. Most people spend significantly more on most of those numbers.

We don't have the kind of transit options here. I mean, just going to see my dad is a 120 mile round journey, and he's only two towns away. My doctor is a 200 mile round journey. Even going out to eat somewhere or to run to the store is about 4 mile round trip and I live in the city. There is no real hope of us going town to town like in Europe.
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>>12001649
Not her, but I suspect a good deal of us are druggies, alcoholics, or at the very least a shambling pile of depression
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>>12001746
Does smoking pot every day count as a druggie.
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>>12001789
not if you go to work sober
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>>12001795
I'm a NEET lol.
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Anyone in England wanna hook up?
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>>12001011
6 years.
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Did anyone else find repression almost sent them completely insane? I’m about two years in to intense gender dysphoria (I hadn’t cracked the egg before) without having done anything about it yet and I feel like I’m a complete sociopath at this point.

Disassociated but very very angry and very very jealous. Physically uncomfortable all of the time, almost feel like I’m losing control of my own mind. I feel like I might need to transition just so I don’t murder someone.
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>>12002035
yeah but not like that sort of insane at all where you want to kill someone
just attempting to mutilate my own genitals, much more normal you know
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>>12002035
hmu when u go blind
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>>12002035
Repressing for 20 years has made me very stoic and emotionally dead on the outside. I probably can't count the amount of times I've spent in bed trying to hate and force the feelings and desire away. It definitely broke something in me that will probably never be fixed or normal. It's made me never feel comfortable in my body, I don't think I have ever looked in my reflection in my entire life and liked what I saw. I have no confidence or drive to do pretty much anything because something as basic as accepting and liking myself will never be the reality for me. I will eventually kill myself it's just a matter of time.

If you are in a position to transition and not repress if you are 100% sure you are trans do it. I wouldn't wish this feeling of a wasted and meaningless life on anyone. Nothing matters and never will.
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>>12002052
I’m hot and cold on my genitals. In a certain mood I can like them.

So maybe I’m not trans. And the mental
circus goes round and round and round and round. FFS. Four therapists have come and gone and I’ve got nowhere.
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>>12002082
the fact that the testicles produce testosterone drove me to do it more than i hate feeling them there
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>>12002082
I don't think it's a necessity to hate your dick to be considered trans. Plenty of people here seem to be fine with their dicks. I go through moods where I hate mine and don't fap for weeks but I certainly wouldn't get SRS the way it's done now.
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>>12002035
I wish i could uncrack the egg. It was tolerable before. I wish i never knew about transition or realized i was trans.
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>>12002095
Kinda wish I did though. If I wanted to to chop my dick with scissors every night it would make this more tangible. I had a drunken convo with my mother and told her what was going on with me. The first thing she said was “so you want rid of your penis?”. When I said “no it’s a bit complicated” she checked out and thought I was a loon. Bless my mom, she was trying.
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>>12002096
Ditto. Mine was cracked my losing my virginity at an absurdly late age. If I’d stayed celibate for life I might have kept this in the box.
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>>11999581
>>11999632
>tfw pre-everything and scared to admit to myself that I'm trans
I don't want to be miserable, I just want to be a woman and not lose everything I've worked for.
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>>12002106
If you had the option to easily and safely get rid of your dick for a vagina would you? I definitely would it's just unfortunately not the reality as of yet. Hopefully it will be in our lifetime.
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>>12002096
Part of me relates to this. If i had never known about transitioning I would have killed myself two years ago. Now I'm still alive but bitter, envious and depressed because even though transitioning doesn't make you cis it gets you close and I could have fixed this issue a long time ago or even now. Now I must watch as my body gets destroyed and I keep losing my youth.
I don't know what's worse. Thinking it's impossible and hoping you get reincarnated or knowing it's somewhat possible but it being out of reach for you but not for others.
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>>12002192
This. It's not just about losing the penis, but gaining a vagina. Imho there's just too much risk and the results are not good enough to justify it (speaking personally of course). Maybe I'm just not super dysphoric over my penis.
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>>12002096
Ye. I think I could live alright if it was the same deal as it was in my teens, where the only transgenders around were old, unpassable hons. Now that I know it's actually possible to pass (and come out pretty cute to boot) the anguish is that much greater. Fuck me for being born a decade early
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>>12002192
Y’know, probably. I’ve really never thought too much about a vagina before. Maybe because I’ve not had massive genital dysphoria before or any sex fantasies involving having a vagina.

If I could only take one seamless instant physical adjustment it would be having less broad shoulders. My shoulders are the thing that have consistently caused me the most discomfort, and of course it’s something that never can change in reality. Typical me.
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>>12002192
Don't have genital dysphoria, but you've made me remember a locker room conversation back in middle school. Somebody asked "Would you rather have two penises, or a dick and a vagina"? Everyone unanimously agreed on the first option, but I quietly thought about how the second one seemed so much more interesting. At the very least, it'd be nice to know how both parts felt
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>>12002096
I don't know. I felt like I was insane. Like there was something wrong with me, but I couldn't say what it was. I wanted to be a girl, but it felt like a fantasy so I tried to ignore it whenever possible. Learning other people felt the same kind of calmed me down.
>>12002277
I've had so many sex fantasies where I have a vagina. I still don't want to cut it off. The results from SRS seem questionable at best. I just try not to think about it too much.
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>tfw will never look like Jan from the Toyota commercials
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>>12002277
>If I could only take one seamless instant physical adjustment...
I think I'd shift my waist/ribcage. would make my hips and breasts seem larger, really change my silhouette for a big value change. or maybe it'd make me look like a bobblehead...if you get to character create preview the change, I'd check that first, anyway.
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>>12000981
Yeah i feel the same if i'm perfectly honest. Don't really care about all that detail stuff, i just want to be female.
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>>12001076
Okay good advice. Like the brain don't think about certain features and whatnot. Should just be patience and don't think about this stuff anymore i think.
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>>12002113
It's the hardest part, can you live with it without doing anything about it? Can function normally, have normal relationships and even love relationships maybe you shouldn't do anything about it? But it truly helps to do something about it if you need to, like life is starting again even if there's more pain and stuff inovlved.
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>>12004386
>Can function normally
Well, I am currently doing well at my job and I can fake normal well enough to have casual acquaintances. It's all an act, and behind it all I'm struggling through life day by day.

As far as real relationships go, I feel too broken to be in one. It's better for everyone if I just stay single instead of bringing them down into my pit of issues. Not to mention, I'd feel bad dating a guy because I'd feel he deserved someone prettier, and I'd feel bad dating a woman because I don't have any desire to use my dick

>like life is starting again
What if I have to start all over with nothing? I'm scared I wouldn't be able to bounce back if I lost everything.
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>look in the mirror
>"oh, I don't look half as bad as I imagined, let me take a pic!"
>take a pic
>masculine hon/teenage boy stares at the camera
>look in the mirror again
>see hon in it
Is there any way I can undo this magic spell?
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>>12004513
>it's all an act
yeah i know how that is. It's all a sham and it didn't work for me in the end, it's like why live a fake life if i'm not happy with who i am.

>What if I have to start all over with nothing? I'm scared I wouldn't be able to bounce back if I lost everything.
Why would you lose everything? Is it really worth keeping it if it's just fake and they don't support you even if they find out you're struggling with this stuff?
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>>12004589
Just remember who you look like and channel her power
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>>12004589
do what i did and cover the front camera. selfies make me realise what a monster I am. They were not healthy for me.
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>>12004643
My self-image is not great to say the least.
>>12004659
I have to keep progress somehow, but my main camera broke anyway, so I can only take really bad pics.
Still, sometimes it happens without ever taking any pics.
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>>12004589
I wish i knew.
Sometimes i just send pics to people i know on discord and they tell me i'm cute so i feel better about myself.
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>>12004702
The only ones who can tell me the same are people who hugbox me. I know I'm not cute.
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>>12004724
Take the compliments, even if it's hugboxing it helps.
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>>12004755
When I see people blatantly lie to my face to make me feel better it doesn't actually make me feel any better.
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>>12004765
Okay, then it's not much to do then. I don't know about blatanly lying, they are just trying to be nice.
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>>12004674
I can see my face literally change and shift in the mirror too. It's weird.
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>>12004780
It's just different way of saying the same thing. It's a lie and whether it has malicious intent or not is largely irrelevant.
>>12004879
I don't really see it change, but I feel like if I stare long enough my perception changes.
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>>12002035
I was dead inside and NEETing, then I found a job and it was an up moment, I somehow felt fine for a while, but still had trans thoughts and identified as a girl, without acting on it. That lasted about a year, then I cracked, and finally had money to transition.
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>>12004589
I'm the opposite.
>Take a random selfie on my phone
>Somehow cute
>Start feeling happy
>Look at myself in the mirror
>I look like shit and have very very few similarities with the picture

For fuck's sake why does phone camera have so many built-in filters? It's like a hard slap when you get back to reality
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>>12005108
>>12004589
I know both of these feels and I regularly have mental breakdowns over not knowing what I REALLY look like.
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>>12005149
I just assume I look like shit lol
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>>12005155
Same desu :(
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>>12005149
People called me hon AND cute on this board at the same time.
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>>12005249
Very brave of you to post here
It'd probably crush the little self-esteem I have left
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>Get bangs to cover big forehead
>face looks broad now
Fucking shit
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>>12005149
Just go outside and see how people gender you
Also mirror is more accurate due to less distortion
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>>12005287
I mean obviously they'll gender me male, but I need to know what I look like so I can work on it/know what to get cut off.
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>>12005287
People gendering you is a bad indicator. I get gendered female sometimes, but I still look honish.
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>>12005287
>house mirror look great
>store mirror look horrible
remove the merchants
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I transitioned at 22, 2 years ago, and life is going really really well.

Don't lose hope.
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>>12004609
>Why would you lose everything
I'm irrationally afraid of losing my job and being abandoned by everyone I know.
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>>12005687
Congrats. I can only hope it'll be the same for me.
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>>12005756
Oof, yeah that can be scary. I was that too before i started but figured nobody would notice anything different with me so i could hide it pretty well. But i decided to just tell the truth to some and it turned out better than i thought.

But i understand your fear.
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Is there any real reason to stop boymoding if you have a fridgebod and huge manhands? I feel like I'm so hopeless my body will be clocked by everyone within a mile.
unsee.
cc/79883f63/
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>>12005756
You could honestly FUCK them up uf they were to fire you because you're trans. Except if you're living in Russia. Or middle east. Or Africa.
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>>12005790
You look passable in the pic but it's hard to tell when you're standing like that
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>>12005790
I'd wear more flattering clothes. Dark tops make your shoulders look smaller. And obviously don't wear tight-fitting stuff if you have a crappy body shape/fridgebod/no curves.
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>>12005790
You look pretty femish in that pic. Not perfect but still not bad at all.
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>>12005790
What boymoding?
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>>12005790
Your body looks fine, but your tuck is awful and stands out.
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>>12005785
Thanks for understanding.
>>12005797
It's not just being fired, I'm also afraid I'd lose the respect I've gained and nobody would want to work with me.
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>>12005836
>Thanks for understanding.
No problem. Good luck to whatever you decide you get to be happy.
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>tfw you're not even a late transitioner by this threads standards but still probably more of a hon than half the people here
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>>12006556
I can only hope for you it's just BDD. Sorry friend.
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>>12006556
That is extremely unlikely. I assume you either have BDD or are a typical humblebragging youngshit ("Boohoo I'm a 5'6" heighthon and a 16" bidelt shoulderhon, i'm such a giga chadhon ;-;")
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>>12006622
Yep. Humblebragging youngshit.
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>>12006614
>That is extremely unlikely.
It happens, a lot of the hons are just extremely masculine looking from the start of puberty

Doesn't matter because it's a late transition thread not non passing thread, a lot of the regulars are passers
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My gf is very sheltered and alittle autistic maybe. She has veru specific gynephilic fetishes that don't involve sex. I'm quickly losing attraction due to our abysmally bad and boring sex.

I've been trying to get her into other things and fetishes they might be fun for both of us but she's kind of just flat on them.

I've heard that once someone starts HRT they basically lose their libido and it's extremely hard to get them into new things. Is this true?
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>>12006686
You have plenty of orbiters and people compliment you all the time and you know it, you freaking attention whore.
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>>12006686
oh for fuck sake, treat your fucking insecurities and learn to read the OP.
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>>12006700
orbiters mean nothing when they only like you for your lies and deception
but you're right, sorry for bothering you

>>12006733
bye bye
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>>12006788
don't let the door hit you on the way out, baka.
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>>12006681
>Is this true?
Not really. I no longer have to deal with a shitty male sex drive, random erections etc. But I still very much can get horny and stuff.
It sounds more like you and your gf are sexually incompatible. If you need a good sex life for your relationship to be fulfilling I'd consider breaking up.
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>>12006805
baaaaaaaaaaka
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How do you know if you need FFS?
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>>12007097
If you don't pass, you do.
If you pass, but have some masc features you don't like, you most likely do.
If you look a normal girl, you don't.
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>>12007097
You don't, ffs is an expensive meme cosmetic surgery
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>>12007650
Okay, but how far into hrt do you have to be and how much like makeup and hair style and such do you have to try out before starting to consider it? I kinda wanna know if i need to save money up for it or not.
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>>12007736
okay, you sure? Seems like a hell of a difference desu.
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>>12007736
Let's just cherrypick the ugliest fucker.
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>>11999581
Luckily I've always been shaped very feminine. I got good bones.
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>>12007785
Because they're the ones who need surgery most and are served least by it. FFS only works for those who are already close to passing.
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>>12006700
>>12006733
>>12006788
Why do people hate hazel so much :(
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>>12007833
>youngshit posts pictures and complains about not passing in a thread that explicitly aren't for her
>confused over some people getting mad at her.

I mean besides that constant annoying need of validation and attention whoring, take a guess?
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>>12007736
Thank god I don't look like that then
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>>12007833
I don't know either
She doesn't deserve to be bullied at all
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>>12007893
I just don't get why you get triggered by youngshits so much. Like there's nothing to be mad about. She's a nice girl.
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>>12007946
You don't have to understand. You can fuck off though.
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>>12007785
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>>12007977
Nose looks better.
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>>12007971
Why the hostility? Why are you mad? Just seems very unkind.
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>>12007946
Don't care, she don't belong here and should learn proper forum etiquette.
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>>12007833
It's just another attention whore.
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>>12007971
>>12007893
I mean she looks like a hon, isn't that enough? Plush she started hrt at 21
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>>12008210
This is not a hon thread tho.
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>>12008231
This. There are even teenage hons, but that's not what the thread is about.
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>>12008210
No, can't you read the OP?

What is the problem for youngshits to understand simple set rules? Jesus christ.
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>>12008339
It's always people who don't read the op or want this thread to cater to them - "but what about ME ME ME ME ME", it's like just having one thread not being about them is insulting to them already.
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What's the best community for people who transitioned between like 22 - 30 or so? Reading about the transitions of youngshits just makes me sad, but I feel I don't have much in common with 40+ tranners.
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>8.5 months HRT
>boobs getting to big to hide with a bra + sweater anymore
>hairline hasn't finished growing back in yet
>still in the process of removing facial hair

WHAT DID MY BODY MEAN BY THIS
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>>12009168
/ltg/ threads and /ltg/ discord server
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>>12007736
Just fuck off ffs anon.
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>>12009658

ok thanks! is there a link to the /ltg/ discord btw? ;w;
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>>12009615
>having boobs too big to hide
haha ;_;
>4 years HRT just need a T-shirt to hide them
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>>12009685
https://discord.gg/GjkS5t
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>>12009168
>Reading about the transitions of youngshits just makes me sad
Examples? How so? Gimme some sui fuel
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>>12009724

thanks anon!
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>>11999808
Woah, you guys might have disagreements but that's no reason to bring racism into this. Keep that shit on 4chan where it belongs.
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If I were to tell my practitioner about my lifelong GD alongside my terrible anxiety/depression would that help? I imagine the two are and always have been related but I'm afraid they're just going to dismiss it or react to it negatively. That's the last thing I want happening when I say something like this out loud for the first time in my life. Should I just contact an expert about gender related therapy instead? I'm not too keen on doing HRT myself after this long repressing but if someone confirms it will help me I have no issues going on it.
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>>12010362
I don’t mean to be cynical, but I really wouldn’t anticipate telling a general practitioner about GD and getting any joy out of it. This really is a fundamentally misunderstood and stigmatised condition, every none trans ‘professional ‘ I’ve discussed it with has been terrible. Not only do they not understand, but they have no interest in trying to understand.
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>>12010362
>I'm afraid they're just going to dismiss it or react to it negatively.
Very likely
>Should I just contact an expert about gender related therapy instead?
Yes and make sure to check if they're the more modern ones or some old gatekeeping hon factory
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>>12010392
I don't know what to do then. I feel like I have to tackle this now before my thirties since it is very clearly just a part of me that is never going away. The practitioner is generally a really nice, understanding person I just don't know where the fuck to turn to at this point since I am 100% too scared/nervous to do HRT by myself. That might be my only option though.

Does anyone DIY in Ontario here? Is it easy and viable?
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>>12010414
Maybe speak to them then, I’m only talking from my own experience.

DIY is risky, I ordered pills but then threw them out when they arrived after a freak out.
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>>12007977
somehow the eyebrow grew, but the cheek's depth went down
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>>12005836
>It's not just being fired, I'm also afraid I'd lose the respect
Only thing you can do about that, is to look confident about your choice. I came out to the people at my work, looking extremely confident and, they actually respected me even more for that. I mean I'm still a self-hating insecure little shit, spending all my nights mourning on 4chan but they don't have to know that. If you want respect, all that is important is the appearance you give.
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>Voice edition
>no voice clips

Why?
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>>12013245
Idk about others, but I sound like a high-pitched teenage boy, so I don't think it's worth posting.
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>>12013245
I don't need to train voice if I'm going to boymode forever
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>>12013301
Wouldn't a good female voice help you out to leave boymode though?

>>12013280
Ok, but if you post it someone could give feedback.

Im scared to post mine but i want to, but i don't want to be the only one doing it (and i have like only record my voice trying once before).
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>>12013315
Probably. With my luck I'll actually malefail 2 years from now and be stuck with my man voice.
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>>12013315
>Ok, but if you post it someone could give feedback.
I know I sound like a mickey mouse hon. I even know what I need to work on, but I can't improve it no matter how I try. Honestly it's pretty depressing, but I'm a boymoder so whatever.
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>>12013318
I hope you start to malefail soon but get to work on that voice. I'm sure it will help even more to malefail.

>>12013323
Okay, how much are you training and how consistent are you? What's the issue? Are you going up in falsetto?
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Does anybody else think about how insane they are, likely because they are trans?
It's like I hallucinate every time I see myself and the way I see myself changes so dramatically so often I feel like i'm going to lose my mind.
Would be bad enough if I didn't have massive mood swings to go along with it all.
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>>12010362
If the gp can refer you, do that.
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>>12013338
>Okay, how much are you training and how consistent are you?
I dropped most training a few months ago. I try to adjust it "naturally" when I talk to my friends and such, but it doesn't help obviously.
>What's the issue? Are you going up in falsetto?
Not exactly. I have decent pitch, but my resonance is shit. I can produce andro voice at best and fake awfully sounding male voice at worst.
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>>12013348
I wouldn't be nearly as insane if I could have sorted this out much earlier. By now, there's not much left of me.
I'm starting to recognize myself again, though, so there's that.
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>>12013382
> but my resonance is shit
okay, do you go to a voice trainer? How far up can you push your larynx?
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>>12013465
>okay, do you go to a voice trainer?
Nope, I don't have any around.
>How far up can you push your larynx?
I'm not sure, really, the issue is that I can't hold it well.
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>>11999581
>Late Transition General
Fucking finally some more generals besides MtFg on /tttt/, I remember when there were quite a few, like a non trip version of Mtfg, and Femgen.
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>>12013561
Ok, what guides are you using? Also isn't that just a muscle issue? Like you need to train it more and more consistently to hold it for longer?
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>>12013570
Yeah i don't understand why we haven't had other generals for a while, MtFg is such a circlejerk.
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>>12013632
/ltg/ was a thing in December 2017 - February 2018, but at some point janny started purging all generals except said mtfg, so all generals were essentially outlawed until autumn or so.
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>>12013647
That's so stupid. Glad it's back though, i wouldn't come here if it weren't for ltg.
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is there any medical experimentation I could perform on myself to chemically induce conditions in my body that are closer to first puberty (so that I could e.g. get hip growth and bone changes), or would that be a bad idea?
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>>12013695
This, the rest of the board is very suicide inducing for me. But there's some sort of unexplainable comfiness in /ltg/
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>>12013720
This right here. Yeah there's some comfiness in this thread, if it's the relateable factor or that posters actually take time to think about their posts i don't know.
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>>12013570
I miss /tgg/, having no trips made it easier to talk about things compared to /mtfg/.
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>>12013720
This place isn't always sunshine and rainbows, but it's far more bearable than the rest of the board.
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>>12013709
No.
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>>12013609
>Ok, what guides are you using?
I used various ones.
>Also isn't that just a muscle issue?
Probably. Whenever I try to hold larynx in place, I just hold breath instead. I don't know how to do it.
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>>12013932
Okay, its tricky for sure. Have you tried swallow twice like when you try and stifle a hiccup? But let go of the swallow in the middle of the second, then just keep it up there? Try and breath through your nose while doing so.
What i find working is like also, try and go for swallowing but don't swallow, like just the first part of the swallowing it feels like my larynx atleast goes up and stays in place up there too.

But idk, i'm a noob.
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>>12013152
I guess that makes sense. Like even though I'm changing, I need to show them that I'm just as confident as I've always pretended to be.



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