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ITT: examples of FtM and MtFs that pass perfectly.
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>>11275431
Eh, her voice is clockable
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>>11275440
She just sounds slightly autistic (not in the insulting way, but literally autistic). But yeah her voice needs work.
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>>11275431
Ok so post some then?
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zachary "sneaky" scuderi is the queen.
blaire white is a thot.
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>>11275448
She doesnt sound autistic shes pretty socially uninhibited it just sounds nasally. Emma Ellingsen is flawless pass, she started hormones pre-puberty tho so cheatinggg
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>>11275431
Blaire is ok but they still have a flared rib cage which is bad on a tiny body.
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>>11275515


blaire is a twinkhon who has an enlarged head, she posted how she was walking down a street and a group of guys said LOL thats a tranny.

she isnt an example of somebody who passes perfectly and OP has been obsessed with blaire white for a year which is why he posts her pics even though shes not an example of a perfect passer


t. twinkhon
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>>11275431
Something still seems off
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>>11275515
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>>11275457
zach, a cis man (maybe femboy at best), passes better than the vast majority of trans girls. what has this world come to
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the only acceptable answer is this beautiful creature.
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>>11275543

If you seen other pics where he's competing with a costume on his face is much wider. he uses hair and camera angles to make his face smaller in professional pics
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>>11275588
Def a dude
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>>11275543
>cis man
>>11275588
>he

why is everyone on this board fervently denying sneaky her right to her pwn gender identity as how she presents herself? if you're looking at a woman, but always mentally reminding yourself that she's a man, then that counts as transphobia.
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>>11275635
>why is everyone on this board fervently denying sneaky her right to her pwn gender identity as how she presents herself? if you're looking at a woman, but always mentally reminding yourself that she's a man, then that counts as transphobia.


Sneaky says their not trans and just likes dressing up as female. Until then we should respect sneaky's wishes and use pronouns according to what they say.
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>>11275635
Mentally reminding nothing, pal. If you can't hold two concepts in your head (that this person is male and wants to live as and be treated as a woman - and that that fact deserves to be respected) at the same time you're mentally weak.
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>>11275635
cis until proven otherwise

it's like that for all of us though. people will always assume we are cis until we come out/transition
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>>11275687
>this person is male and wants to live as and be treated as a woman - and that that fact deserves to be respected
what you just described there, is a trans woman. if you say her identity deserves to be respected, then you should be calling her "she" and not misgendering her as a man either.
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>>11275706
Misgendering would be me referring to him as "her" in this case, since sneaky likes dressing as female but doesn't fall into the category I just described where he wants to live as a woman.
Crossdressig doesn't make you trans
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>>11275742
>dressing as female
>wants to live as a woman
things all trans women do. for me, it's simple, if i see a woman, i call her "she". if i see a man, i call him "he". if i see an androgynous or obvious gender-nonconforming person, then i try to avoid using gendered pronouns altogether or call them "they".
i have no interest in trying to find out what genitals that person may be carrying, or what sex chromosome they have. a woman is a woman, and sneaky for all purposes, also fits the category of a woman.
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>>11275750
huge head and shoulders looks like an alium
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>>11275787
So sneaky doesn't get a vote because they look like a girl
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>>11275787
ok two caveats
there are actual cis guys that present like a woman in public, just like how cis girls will try to pass in public as men. my ex was one of those cis girls.
also, sneaky still presents as a man when streaming
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>>11275810
therein lies the problem. you may not be able to tell who is a cisgender crossdresser, and who is an unpassing transgender person. except for directly asking the person themself to confirm their gender, the only clues you have is visual, how they decide to present themselves or want to be seen as.
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>>11275787
Sneaky doesn’t fucking pass anyway lmao so this stupid “call it like you see it” rule doesn’t even apply, he just takes girly photos after hours of makeup and wig application done by his girlfriend, then returns to looking like a chubby fat gamer boy
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>>11275851
So I'm just supposed to assume anyone who looks a certain way is the gender that most fits that stereotype? By that logic next time I run into a bitch lesbian I should assume she wants to be called "he".
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>>11275626
Who is this semen demon?
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>>11275883
it's funny now that you've mentioned that, because it's the butch nonconforming TERFs who are ironically getting kicked out women's restrooms for not appearing womanly enough and getting mistaken for male. see >>11272623
the ironic schadenfreude is hilarious to me.
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what is this body type called
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>>11276211
sui fuel
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>>11276315
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>>11275431
Alisa Dankovskaya, from.. Yes, you guessed it, Russia!

>>11275635
>genders self-described MTF transsexual who calls herself Ksenia as male just because she acknowledges the fact that she is biologically male
>genders self-described MALE crossdresser who calls himself Zach as female just because he occasionally wears women’s clothes for cosplay
The absolute state of YANDERE-TRAN.

>>11275893
Skylar Piela.
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>>11276871
that thing is fugly
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>>11276912
What you say, angryhon.
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>>11276953
no filters are gonna make up for those botched surgeries lmao
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>>11276953
Her lips look like a loose butthole
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>>11275596
I want this sweater really bad
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Billy Castro, so hot.
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>>11276912
>>11276953
She passes for sure but those lips are gross. Literally bimbo tier.
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>>11276871
I thought you went by male pronouns? And don't you still call yourself Mario? Most people on this board acknowledge that they are biologically male but still call themselves girls instead of 'estrogenized men' because the goal for most of us is to pass as female and take on a female role in society. Yes, we are still bio males but that doesn't mean we are 'men'.
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>>11275431
passing is relative

pic related is a cis woman
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>>11277271
>And don't you still call yourself Mario?
>I thought you went by male pronouns?
I accept either grammatical gender and name (Ksenia or Mario), but I prefer female+Ksenia. Currently I do not tell people IRL to address me by female grammar nor as Ksenia because I boymode therefore it would be incoherent with my appearance.

>Most people on this board acknowledge that they are biologically male but still call themselves girls instead of 'estrogenized men'
It is a matter of being intellectually honest. “estrogenized male” is a factual description of trannies (pre-OP/non-OP at least). It is not an identity. See https://archived.moe/lgbt/thread/10649873/#10650472

>Yes, we are still bio males but that doesn't mean we are 'men'.
Yes, it does, literally. men = adult male human.
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;_;
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does somikchan even real?
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>>11277582
Yes.
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>>11276871
ty for the life fuel. Maybe I dont have to repress because of based FFS. Theyre prbbly an early transitoner tho :(
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>>11277584
but people always say the dickpics and the pre-transition pic are fake tho
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>>11277587
There is people who begin late and turn out fine. This person began at 23 years, I think (name in filename).

>>11277592
Name?

>>11277593
Yes, angryhos are always going to scream that. People prefer to deny reality when it hurts their feelintgs.
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>>11277599
a cute
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>>11277565
>It is a matter of being intellectually honest.
You really need to loathe yourself deeply to aspire to look like and assume a social role of a woman but call yourself a man.
>Yes, it does, literally. men = adult male human
This simply isn't true. A passing trans girl will be seem by society as a female. Being a "man" is a social role for males that grow up into adults. Us trannies stop such process and assume a different social role, so we aren't men even though we are biologically male. Face it, you do not like being called a man, or your deadname either. Calling yourself a man is not only false but also counter-intuitive. Man != Male. Men are made, not born.
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all you gotta do is pay
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>>11277662
This is SUCH life fuel :)))
Gonna get FFS asap, then passing might b possible
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>>11277662
she only had a rhino?
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>>11277630
>You really need to loathe yourself deeply to aspire to look like and assume a social role of a woman but call yourself a man.
That, or have an OCD mentality. Perhaps I will reconsider my policy of what I tell people when I am closer to girlmoding.

>A passing trans girl will be seem by society as a female.
Yes, of course.

>Being a "man" is a social role for males that grow up into adults.
Some people use the word “man” to mean a social role, like what you describe, but it is not what it means according to the dictionaries I consulted. It is ok for me, as long as you are conscious that you are using a nonstandard meaning.

>Face it, you do not like being called a man, or your deadname either.
Well, being called him+Mario feels exactly like being addressed by my family name when I was cis. It gives me the impression that the other person is either keeping distance, or is being intentionally not friendly but I do not feel offended nor anything. It is not really a deadname either, it is my legal name, and I intend to continue using it for official purposes unless I decide to change my legal sex to have some protections.

The matter here is that although I want to adopt female traits, I do not want to adopt the flaws of cis women. I do not think of myself heuristically as a woman, nor a man but as an human mixing features of both sexes. Please do not interpret this to mean that I am “non-binary”, no. It is just an heuristic, not an identity.

>>11277662
Very pretty. Post name please.
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>>11277694
fight fight fight fight
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>>11277710
It looks like he prbbly had orbital contouring/forehead/chin/cheek as well
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>>11277725
>Very pretty. Post name please.
No thanks AGP spichon
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>>11277725
>this guy thinks people value his input

when are you going to post more photos of yourself
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>>11277776
h-h-hot is he ftm
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>>11275431
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This guy is @lyslieb on tumblr and he started testosterone at 15. Fucking unclockable, other than the scars. I'd be second guessing whether or not he was cis with gynecomastia or a former fatty if I saw him irl. FtMs hate youngshits too.
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>>11275588
>his face is much wider
Neither a masculine nor feminine trait.
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>>11277786
yes, his name is tarso brant (formely tereza)
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>>11277808
what's the point if his dick doesn't work though?
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>>11277662
Hey who is her surgeon? asking for a friend
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>>11277895
>what's the point of looking completely male if your dick isn't also functional
Hm, you really got me there dude. Looking like a stunted FtM faggot is actually just as preferable as looking like a cisgender male, because my penis won't work either way.

Ironically, he's actually just had phalloplasty. At 19 years old. Idk if he has an implant to make it hard yet but that's obviously the end goal, so even if it doesn't work for fucking now, it will within a year.
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>>11277855
Wow he looked like a hon before he transitioned. He had great genetics.
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>>11275440
>>11275448
See, I don't think her voice is clockable at all. I've heard some real fucking hons speak and I've heard perfectly natural-passing trans women speak, even at length, and her voice is absolutely well within feminine range. It doesn't sound stilted or forced at all.
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>>11276871
lol YANDERE - TRAN vs Ksenia boxing when?
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>>11279001
>Honfights
I'd watch it.
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Some of yall need to spend some time in the south east united states. Long hair. Boobs and make up. =girl/faggot girl guy but girl none the less.

Short hair. goatee. Boobs. And skol ring =man /faggot man
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>>11279397
Makes sense lol
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>>11275441
if these fucking mongoloids can be happy, so can i.
oh wait, they're mentally retarded too, aren't they? what is that. is there a link between looking fucking stupid and actually being fucking stupid?
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>>11275528
id fuck her up the arse tho
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>>11279148
This is the bliss conservatives wanna keep us from touching.

Damn them. May Satan and the wrath from the infernal make their suffering eternal.
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>>11279708
This thread is reaching an AGP singularity
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>>11279718
What's AGP about being a perfectly passable rich popstar who doesn't have to worry about being trans ?
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>>11279729
You answered your own question
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>>11279734
Cop out answer anon
Because there's nothing AGP about it
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>>11279737
Cope agp hon
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athletics + dedication + surgeries =

https://twitter.com/NikitaDragun/status/1070453128321847296
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>>11275558
I have a very similar facial structure I think

Does this mean im gonna pass one day?
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>>11279840
She was also very short to begin with and had a very forgiving facial structure
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>>11279868
(same) yes if you can kill your shadow and have a beat face
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>>11279902
yea shes still flexing on the cis tho because of the Victoria Secret thing and thats more goals really than the 2000% fem body for me
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>>11275457

>Calls Blaire a thot while talking up a dude who post pics of his ass in a thong
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>>11275801
Explain this head
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>>11277599

wonky faced AGP
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>>11275810
>just like how cis girls will try to pass in public as men.
I beg your pardon......??
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>>11277467
She still passes. Literally nobody thinks Alison Bechdel is a man
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>>11277662
I'm a cis man but I want this done on my nose so bad. Want to be a cute boy not a fucking misshapen lump face
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>>11277808
I would tongue his pussy while he called me names
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>>11277623
>Calvin Klein
>>11277855
>gauges
Why are FTMs such a hivemind
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>>11277808
Eye area is definitely female, other than that though pretty good
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>>11277607
>>11277593
somik is cis
she admitted to not being a trap (pic related) but then decided to play along because of the popularity
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>>11280644
>I am not a trap and I am not a Pokemon trainer
It is called “being facetious”.
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What would you do if you saw this charging toward you?
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>>11280677
you're even more autistic than i thought
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>>11280449
Allergic reaction to hair dye
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>>11280732
Don't you dare insult mai waifu. You resort to insults and personal attacks because you cannot come up with a sound and coherent argument.
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>>11279148
Her facial planes and cranial vault are still expanded from being in the womb. Notice the placement of her hand. Shes trying to mask the obvious imperfections.
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>>11280950
>facial planes
>cranial vault
I don't know what these words mean
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>>11280950
>Her facial planes and cranial vault
this is some high level clocking here damn really wana go for here eh sis
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>>11277230
>standard barbell
>wrong plate placement order
>gyno
2/10 would not gymbro
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>>11277586
passes YUP

Blush too low YUP
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>>11280950
Jfl implying the high set eyebrows and poor lateral orbital rim protrusion combined with mediocre forward growth of the infraorbital ridges doesnt indicate low prenatal testosterone
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>>11281085
He's not a gym bro lol you can tell he doesn't lift or barely does
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>>11277855
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>>11275431
>pass perfectly
I have to see the snatch first.
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>>11280759
he's retarded because there's no reason for her to say "i'm not a trap" as a joke. there's no punchline, no reason to be sarcastic or facetious.

but whatever, mario is a lunatic who believes hrt causing blood clots is a conspiracy, so...
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>>11277938
>he has an implant to make it hard
Whoa, how does that sci-fi shit work?
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>>11281327

Not testosterone, genes. lots of german and scandi women have big heads in comparison to other women. if she was french or something her head wouldnt be that big
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>>11281462
I said I don't know if he does yet. Since your reading comprehension is so bad, it's understandable that you don't know how googling "phalloplasty erectile implant" works.
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>>11281337
he lifts, he just doesn't take any other steroids than HRT. Some of the more beefy ftms definitely do other things to achieve their look.
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>>11279868

you tryna say you look like QT ketchum? Be careful you might catch a case of getting wifed up.
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>>11280724
Peter Pan/10
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>>11275596
nah
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>>11280724
make a key-fist and sock her in the pelvis
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>>11275596
who is her?
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>>11283831
You need to condition your hair better
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>>11285893
How do you conditon better? I have the same problem going on with mine
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>>11285927
Okay so basically the problem here is the hair is essentially, worn the fuck out due to over washing, dying, or general lack of nutrients.

First, you should only be shampooing your hair every 3 or so days, depending on how humid where you live is and how much you sweat.
You should still rinse it at least though.

Get something like this, to fix your damage from dying it https://thespotlightonbeauty.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/img_1069.jpg

This is a good deep conditioner
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51Fo08dBUiL._SY355_.jpg

And this is an excellent leave in that will leave your hair silky fucking smooth
https://www.garnierusa.com/-/media/project/loreal/brand-sites/garnier/usa/us/pdp_images/fructis/sleek---shine/sleek---shine-intensely-smooth-leave-in-conditioning-cream/fructis_sleek_shine_intensely_smooth_leave_in_conditioning_cream_front_v1.jpg


Get 1 of the first conditioners depending on your needs, and also grab the leave in. Use that shit every day, the leave in every 2/4 as needed.

Take care of yourself, drink more water. And you should be seeing visible results soon.

Also, dead ends are a thing that can make your whole head look like shit. Get your ends trimmed and textured on a consistent basis, ever month of two depending on the lenth at which your hair grows. Getting rid of those will give your hair a much healthier look.

Give us some before and after photos in a few weeks senpai.

Source: CisHetWhiteMale who has seen way too much into the world of women thanks to exs.
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>>11286012
I only shampoo just over once a week (Coconut Curls by OGX) and use a hair mask/repairing conditioner called Honey Treasures by Garnier. To my knowledge, I don't have any dead ends - I can't find any under a magnifying glass, but to be fair I've been letting it grow for 24 months so there may be some there. I never blowdry it, never agitate it, and use pure virgin coconut oil about once every 2 months on it.

I'll give that damage eraser a try though. The leave in conditioner I tried was ~horrible~ though, it made my hair look like I dumper a whole container of smoothing oil on it and left it in. Made the whole mess unmanageable until I could get home and wash it out.

Could it be my water also? Wait, did you say condition every day? I usually don't even get my hair wet but 1/5-6 days, could that be it? thank you for the help btw, I appreciate it!
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>>11277608
Sorry but the Wendy's hon did it better
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>>11286051
You don't need to get your hair wet every single day desu, I only do because...miami is hot as balls. Any normal part of the country that should probably be avoided because blah blah natural hair oils.

If your hair hasn't been cut in 24 months, you most certainly have split ends. Go to a salon, not a barbershop, and ask them to take care of them. The coconut oils are a good touch, but you may have better results with argon.
That's honestly a decent brand you're using though.

You're current conditioner w/ the damage eraser should do you good. Try not using so much leave in as before? I've never had bad results and I used to long hair.
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>>11286091
whoa...who tf is she?
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>>11286091
she cute but Sue cuter
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>>11286122
Gotcha. Thanks so much anon.
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>>11286127
@gwizofthestars
somebody larp'd a thread using her twitter posts the other day
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>>11286178
eeeeeh...not interested
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>>11281133
who ist that ?
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No mention of my love.
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>>11289711
why the long face?
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>>11280644
girls who try to be traps are the worst
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>>11277725
>Post name please.
brad. she used to post in mtfg. i think the picture that anon posted was after her first round of ffs with bart van de ven.
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>>11275431
>pass perfectly
>Blaire White
Yo with all the work that thot has had done she looks like a completely obvious tranny. Also, her voice doesn't fully pass.
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>>11275635
Is this a joke? Sneaky is a straight man who happens to enjoy cross dressing.
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>>11275867
its adorable i love him
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>>11275431

she looked better before the nose job.
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>>11275535
Is that Suhlehnnuh Guhmayz?
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>>11275431
why are her breasts spherical ??
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>>11292326
botched bolt on balloon bimbo frankentits
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>>11292370
yeah as someone who goes to drag shows, she looks like a drag queen, not a natal female
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Suicide fuel thread detected.
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>>11277467
This poor woman didn't get a good dicking, and instead larps as your average bugman.
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>>11275431
It doesn't count if they got FFS.
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>>11289111
Sammie 'sammich' is the last thing i saw her go by.
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>>11277776
im so fucking judgmental I still see the female haha bich dont pass
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>>11281133
unf i remember her. she's sooo damn pretty ;-;
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>>11289111
>>11293217
>>11281133
wtf i used to talk to her on tinychat for years. Sammichofdoom. is she famous now or something?
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>>11293631
i just remember her posting on /soc/ many, many years ago. do you any moar of her pics?
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>>11276211
Womanlet.
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>>11293755
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>>11293892
cute! love her pointy nose desu
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>>11289900
>>11277907
Her first surgery (the one in the picture) was with Facial Team. The second one was with Bart
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>>11275596
>I showed you my dick answer me
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>>11277623
I'd fuck his literal bussy
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>>11275457
These are too heavily shopped.
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>>11277592
>>11277607
Mattynatty. Used to have a Tumblr but cleared it out some time ago. That face, holy hell.
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>>11294785
Thanks.
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>>11289900
>>11294686

any pics of the second round? I heard it went wrong



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