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CENTIMETEEERS
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>>42578049
1.143>1
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Shit b8. Enjoy your cute little bitch pistol
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>>42578059
What's the biggest handgun you own?

10mm ain't the biggest, but it's the best
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>>42578065
>handgun
45 super
>in general
Remmington 870
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>>42578056
Hollowpoint expansion Is equal.

10mm penetrates far deeper in large game (ps, it also penetrates barriers better, and annihilates soft armor with high velocity solid copper loads)

10mm has a flat trajectory, and you have more energy at 100 yards then 45 acp has at the muzzle.

You get a few extra shots in a magazine.

10mm auto is the modern big bore pistol caliber, usurping 45 acp in every respect besides putting big holes in paper.
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>>42578072
I own a 500 magnum and an old 44 blackhawk. And while the 500 might very well be my funnest handgun to shoot, my 10mm remains my favorite.

Show me that the extra dianeter of 45 super is useful. Anybody capable of reading ballisitc charts knows it's not more powerful ft lbs wise.
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Why is 10mm considered a meme caliber? It's just autoloading 357 magnum. That's niche but hardly meme worthy.
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>>42578093
Honestly, I think 10mm is cool and all but only Glock really takes advantage of all that it offers, and then general consensus is you have to do a bunch of shit to make it really safe to fire a steady diet of hot loads. I'm not a big fan of aftermarket parts, every glock I've seen shit the bed has been full of them.

.45 on the other hand, spring swap and you're good to go with a whole shitload of guns for .45 super. It also is lower pressure despite having the same energy due to the larger diameter, for an added factor of safety and potentially less wear on the gun.

Also two world wars, 1.1cm>1cm
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>>42578112
It's not considered a meme caliber by anything but old farts who still think .40 sw is the pinnacle of handgun rounds
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>>42578112
Why would anybody NOT want the power of a magnum pistol in an autoloader? You arent a wristlet right anon?
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>>42578102
>its not more powerful
I agree. Selected it for cheaper plinking ammo
>extra diameter isnt valuable
Bullshit. Especially when certain loadings can exceed 1.25 inches
>1 less round
I'm not losing any sleep on that
Tbh it's a stopgap for me. I want a 460 but my tastes run on the exceedingly expensive end so the one I want the way I want it will run me $5k plus
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>>42578119
>Honestly, I think 10mm is cool and all but only Glock really takes advantage of all that it offers

Glocks are probably the best, but there are several serviceable 10mm options, from many MANY nice 1911s, including double stack variants, to polymer guns like the XD's and several sig sauer models.
>and then general consensus is you have to do a bunch of shit to make it really safe to fire a steady diet of hot loads.
No. Just a recoil spring.

>I'm not a big fan of aftermarket parts, every glock I've seen shit the bed has been full of them.
My stock glock 40 has eaten over 500 pissin hot handloads / underwood rounds. Never a problem after throwing in a heavy spring.


>.45 on the other hand, spring swap and you're good to go with a whole shitload of guns for .45 super.

Really? Does this work for any new 1911? I might just try this if only to experiment with handloading the caliber.


>It also is lower pressure despite having the same energy due to the larger diameter, for an added factor of safety and potentially less wear on the gun.

Fair point, but your trading capacity for reliability. Stuffing more power in a smaller frame results in more stress as a general rule in everything from guns to engines. Its a trade off.

>Also two world wars
In which 45 was used by the bad guys
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>>42578155
Show me these 1.25 inch loadings. As a reasonable man who enjoys guns, I'm willing to see if .45 super is right for me.
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>>42578191
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>why yes, I do prefer drinking coffee black, whiskey straight and shooting 10mm
>don't tell anyone that I grimace during all three
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>>42578210
I'm sorry your such a fag, anon. You know some people would pay alot of money to have someone like your old scoutmaster do what he did to you
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>>42578188
>No. Just a recoil spring.
Most people say at least the barrel too, that's what steered me away.
>Really? Does this work for any new 1911
From what I understand, yes. But like, I'm not a lawyer, doctor, gunsmith, or the guy who stands to lose fingers here. So do some research on it first.
>Fair point, but your trading capacity for reliability
Depends on the gun, but at the very least you are going to be trading size to capacity ratio, yes.
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>>42578194
1.28, my bad.
Here's the projectile because being a 1cm boii I assume your also a reloader. Just because I've never met one that isnt
https://www.lehighdefense.com/452-maximum-expansion-220gr-bullet
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>>42578194
Do those get proper penetration though? I've seen several loadings of this stuff and in every round it underpenetrates.

I bet 5 bucks that the projectile is made for 45 acp, and that when you push it at 45 super speeds the petals all fold back
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>>42578250
>>42578188
You void the warranty and some parts will need replacing sooner than they normally would, but pretty much any modern 1911 you just need to swap out for a heavier spring and you’re gtg. Did it for my Sig.
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>>42578210
I enjoy my coffee black, but only a a little hot

I enjoy my whiskey with an ice cube or three

And in enjoy shooting pissin hot magnum handloads in several handguns with nothin but a smile on my face.
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>>42578274
That's why you use the 45 colt projectiles. I've had great luck against dogs with it, although. Admittedly 000 buck works better still
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>>42578262
Yeah I reload. Thanks.
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>>42578279
Cool! Where the fuck can I find load data for .45 super?
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180gr 10mm speer underwood loads push around 730 ft pounds and the bullet deforms so badly that the hollow point turns inside out like a little meteorite. Spectacular performance in gel and I've killed deer with it.
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>>42578210
Look at this soft boi.

t. drinks coffee black, sips bourbon straight and enjoys shooting maximum. 44 Mag loads
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>>42578310
Absolute lad
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>>42578188
>In which 45 was used by the bad guys
Pretty sure the US used 45, buddy.
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>>42578326
I'm pretty sure that was the (overly edgy) joke
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>>42578310
By max you better mean ruger only

Best load I've ever tried is underwoods 340 grain hardcast load, over 1400 ft lbs of energy
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>>42578326
https://www.bitchute.com/video/AyIvUhoyCgU9/

Watch this. And if you feel anything at all, feel free to watch these
https://www.bitchute.com/video/NvLbgmVdAXSm/

https://www.bitchute.com/video/6x14p3dUvgy3/


https://www.bitchute.com/video/NvLbgmVdAXSm/
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>>42578433
I'll add, before this thread turns into political argumentation, that neither side was really good or bad at the ground level. Both American and german soldiers were almost entirely simple christian white men who were called upon to serve their nations.

Also, the two world wars meme does actually make me like the 45 acp more then other rounds like .40sw, Its pretty cool to appreciate the millitary history of that caliber. 10mm cant count any air to air kills or 147 yard shots under its belt.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Owen_J._Baggett

Cant find a link to the long range 1911 kill, but it was done by a marine spec ops guy last year.
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>>42578492
I think I know the incident your talking about
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>>42578188
>just a recoil spring
Unless you want full chamber support and want the option of hardcast.
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>>42578492
>en.m
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>>42578119
The 1911 was the most ineffective pistol weapon of WW2. The thing is, 45 acp hollowpoint has no expansion capabilities at distances of 20m and greater. 9mm retains expansion at 20m. A 9mm at 20m is already more powerful than 45acp.
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I want to like 10mm, but I'm just not a big enough man to handle 10mm recoil. 9mm is the most I can handle.
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>>42578708
You can confirm it yourself with some water jugs, a 45acp pistol and a 9mm pistol. The 9mm and 45acp will make the jugs explode at 10m. But if you put the jugs at 20m, you'll be amazed to see the 9mm still makes the jugs explode while the 45acp just puts a little hole in them.
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>>42578747
That hasn't been my experience. What loads are you using? I generally carry 200 gr cast lead p+ hollowpoints
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>>42578760
I never did it myself. I just saw it in a Paul Harrell video. But I also just saw a video about 45acp +P ammo, and I can tell you that it adds a significant amount of velocity to the bullets. At least 130ft/s.
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A handgun is just that, a sidearm. 9mm will never be dethroned. It doesn't matter if any other caliber is X-much better, 9mm is the best compromise.
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>>42578781
However, if all you've got is a pistol, 10mm is practical in a wider range of scenarios.
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>>42578690

Lol.

In WWII everyone used FMJ.

Nice attempt at bait, faggot.
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>>42578781
9mm is the semiauto equivalent to 38 spl
Fuck 38 spl
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>.40 S&W lol bitchwrist FBI agents
>1 cm is great you can also shoot .40 out of it!
Why do 10mm fags bully .40? You don't see .357 fags bullying .38 special.
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I bet none of you 9mm fags even pray to colt koch. Pathetic
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>>42578802
If all you've got is a pistol, but you want to do rifle things with it, you better not be using a straight-wall cartridge.
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50AE is better
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>>42578426
*shrug*
I have a S&W and no need to go off the books. 24 grains of H110 behind a 240gr swc is max.
If I wanted to shoot 460 I would have bought a 460.
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Can all 10mms shoot 40?
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>>42578926
Because 38's have a point in smaller revolvers where 357 is 100% pointless. Theres no point for 40sw when 9mm,45, and 10mm exist.

Also 357 was from of 38. Where as 40sw was born from 10mm. Revolver made it stronger cartridge. Auto loader made it weaker.

This is like saying 22short is too much lets make 22 doubleshort.
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>>42578747
And the barrel length would be the same for each? This is a critical factor most people seem to be overlooking. You won't get the same performance if you use a 3.9 inch barrel vs. a 5 inch barrel.
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>>42578049
Go MEGA or go home.
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>>42578049
What 10mm should i get that isnt a glock? I already own a 19 and its my only handgun atm. Want something different
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>>42579616
>This is like saying 22short is too much lets make 22 doubleshort.
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>>42579708
10MM Ruger Blackhawk
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Would a Hi-Point carbine be a good buy? My budget would allow it if I end up going with one of the lower priced handguns.
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>>42578072
Remington 870 is not a cartridge
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>>42578690
Gr8 b8 m8
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>>42578072
>>42579989
45 super isn't a handgun.
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>>42578210
I do all of those except fire .45 out of my 1911. Guess I better get a 1cm to match up.
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>>42578056
>1.143
It’s actually 1.148 or 1.146 depending on how you wanna look at it
-t. reloader
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>>42578065
Also it's worth noting that I was referring to how this meme disrespects the 1cm gang. Basically saying 10mm is pointless and people are just parroting nonsense
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>>42581024
Maybe. I made the meme to show that people can like 10mm just because. We dont need to be like the 9mm nerds who jerk off about NATO standardization and luckygunner youtube videos.
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>>42579616
>Because 38's have a point in smaller revolvers where 357 is 100% pointless.

Ask me how I know you're a faggot who never uses a chronograph.

Inb4 shortbarrel357isuseless.bait
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>>4257815
>>42578112
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>>42578119
10mm is not magnum its standard loading the case is just bigger. For example there are overpressure 10mm rounds on the market.

And they are awesome.
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>>42578280
Let me see the top of his head.
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>>42578250
glock barrels are hammer forged and arguably stronger than any aftermarket barrel (which will probably be bar stock)

if your 10mm loads are so hot that you need an aftermarket barrel with straightwall chamber for the chamber support you are well beyond a +P loading.
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>>42578049
my retarded ass just now relised that a 10mm is a 1cm round
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>>42583756
It's also 0.01m. Or 0.00001km
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>>42579400
50 ae is a clown caliber, it's just retarded. 44 magnum.
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>>42579708
Rock island doublestack 10mm 1911
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>>42579352
*teleports behind you*
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>>42582744
Standard pressure 10mm generates over 800 ft lbs of muzzle energy with the right load. Overpressure stuff can approach or exceed 1000 ft lbs from a long slide.
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>>42584531
Wait until you get into carbines.

Hot 1cm has more ftlb out of 16 inch barrel than a 5.56.
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>>42584553
No it doesn't. The case isn't as big.
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>>42583733
>hammer forged

Seriously?
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>>42578049
>not shooting 45mm
Come on, a 1911 is the best handgun on the market. Hell it even went through 2 world wars. Really no one needs the over priced shitty 10mm, not to mention how courts look at 10mm being a over kill carry bullet.
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>>42585118
.... what...
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>>42584553
>don’t tell them about .357 in long guns
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>>42585674
5.56mm bullets have bigger cases then 10mm. They store more gunpowder. They reach higher velocities and have greater energy.
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>>42583733
How does hammer forging differ from regular forging? Do they quench it twice or something?
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>>42579774
Id say yes. And if you get tired of the looks theres fairly cheap cosmetic kits you can buy that are pure sex
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>>42578072
this man never wants to shoot anything past 200 yards
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>>42578049
CENTIMETEEEEEEERS
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>>42585118
>The case isn't as big.
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this is your brain
>>42585697
this is your brain on non 10mm cartridges
any questions?
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>>42587684
I mean, I have a scoped 7mm-08. But long range shooting doesnt interest me much at the moment. Maybe later in life
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>>42578119
>only Glock really takes advantage of all that it offers

Sure it does.
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>>42587690
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>>42587701
>>42587727
The fastest10mmdoesn't even approach half the velocity of a5.56round. No contest here. Pushing the proper5.56bullet at 3000+ feet per second will produce a crush cavity that the10mmcan't touch on its best day. A5.56out of an AR will definitely rip a bad guy far more than any handgun round.



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