/arg/ - Thermal drift edition: Post your L3 products and discuss L3 productsOld: >>42572549
>>42577829Felon? NoFat sack of shit? Yes
Cursed 2012 vintage 516 reporting in. I got it used cheap and it’s always worked great for me. At this point I want to keep it because most will have been traded in and it will be **rare**
>>42577829>1203.4a(2) Dismissal of an accusation or information pursuant to this section does not permit a person to own, possess, or have in his or her custody or control any firearmyour pic explains nothing it even raises more questions. Can you hold office?
P E A K P E R F O R M A N C E
>>42578234I want a Meprolight M21 for a fixed carry handle with dogleg mount.
Best optic for an A4 style 20inch?
>>42578298Aimpoint M68 CCO or ACOGnothing else belongs on an A4
>>42577829OkNow stop making excuses for Taurus and we’ll get along famously.
How well should the endplate (the thing that fits against the back of the lower and has a notch to keep the buffer tube from rotating) prevent rotation by itself? A buddy helped me assemble my first AR and he insisted hand tighten the castle nut was fine, but now my buffer tube rotates. The notch will ride up into the threads allowing the rotation. Will tightening my castle nut like it was supposed to be fix it or do I need to get a new endplate/buffer tube?
OH WOW IT IS MY TIME TO SHINE.
>>42578558You’re supposed to tighten the castle nut to a certain torque spec and then stake it. The buffer tube is not supposed to rotate whatsoever.
>>42578558Yeah your buddy is a fucking idiot.
>>42577888Rare, but useless. Good for clone builds though
Any left handed anons here? I just accepted I'm left eye dominant. Plus the vision in my left eye even with correction is way better. Do you guys just leave the controls as is or get left handed ones?
>>42578765The only thing I change on my rifles is the safety selector. Everything else stays the same. Very left handed friendly rifle.
>>42578787Not even an ambi charging handle? The absolute mad man.
>>42577829Nice, i'm not a felon either
>>42578910Thats cool man, ever tried DMT?
>>42578910You are a fugitive from the law, though.
>>42578928Hey man who are you? Fuck the feds.
>>42578928Am i?>>42578925I have had dreams, yes
>>42578932Being aware of the law is not enforcement of the law.>>42578935Yes.
Did someone say post eokeks?
>>42578953>you see when you have two optic, your shots are twice as accurate
>>42578966It multiplies exponentially. So it’s not twice as accurate, it’s 4 times as accurate. 2x2=4.
>>42578953>>42578970if you had one far up front and one in the rear couldn't you create a sight radius with 2 red dots and be even more accurate than just using one?
>>42578992Only if the magnifier goes in the middle for precise front sight acquisition
>>42579035Is your name still on the list?
Hi /arg/ how am I doing so far?
KAC bows to them
>>42579407I really like the look of my new 40 rounder too
>>42579418I may have aids but at least I have guns anon. Where are yours?
>>42579411Never heard of her
>yfw giddy is free because the law knows he's armed and dangerous>know he isn't worth the trouble and likely firefight
>>42579527He can barely fight the depression that consumes his life. I fully expect him to take the Fluffy pill and dope himself up for the yang gang.
>>42579546An unironic communist who's stature is bested by mailboxes.
My BCM lower will be arriving on Monday. Going to be pairing it with this upper:https://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-BFH-16-Mid-Length-Light-Weight-MCMR-p/bcm-urg-mid-16-bfh-elw-mcmr-15.htmAre there any other accessories you guys recommend I pick up from BCM to throw in with the order? I see lots of people running a front grip
>>42579603Did you already order the upper? Should consider a 14.5 if not. Grab a pack or two of the rail covers because hot. You can run the vfg if you want but that's up to you. Personally I don't like it much but I run shorter rails so it just gets in the way and gets annoying. On a longboi you might like it. Plus it's only like $20.
Is the Zenitco perst-3 any good? Will be picking up a IR illuminator in the next month or two and want a full power.
>>42579678>Is the Zenitco perst-3 any good?Yes
>>42579678>that color difference between the upper and lowercringe
>>42579676I did not order it yet. Why the 14.5?
>>42579678>Is the Zenitco perst-3 any good?Yes>Will be picking up a IR illuminator in the next month or two and want a full power.pickup a form 1 as well
All these rifles with non ambi selectors really get the noggin a joggin. >>42578234>That trigger guard>That barrel profileYuck. I see what you're going for though. Nice image, and that rifle is better than almost any fucking AK. >>42578298Acog with KAC 600m rear, or you could do some interesting memes with a LaRue mount and a 3-9x40mm or a 1-6xIt would be interesting to see a Vcog on an M16A4>>42578558It should be tighter. >>42578650>Troy irons>no ambi selectorDo more movement and shooting and don't patronize anti 2A companies out of ignorance. >>42579603Do the 14.5" ELW CHF BFH MCMR dude. It will be a much more pointable rifle. I guarantee it will handle differently. Also upgrade the selector to an ambi one. >>42579678Yeah Perst 3 is good to go. Get a folding front iron. Ambi selector too.
>>42579702Its lighter, and handier. Pinning and welding isn't that big of a deal because you shouldn't need to change your muzzle unless you get a can, and that isn't hard for any competent gunsmith to do. It's just handier than a 16. And it's a good all purpose barrel length, you can room clear with it relatively easily with training and get that extra oomf of velocity for when you need to reach out and touch someone.
>>42579678Sexy build. Garand thumb was looking for a perst 3 last week so there might be a review in the future
>>42579722God dammit for the last time, I got the buffoni Incorporated marked rear iron, and then robbed it off a different rifle when I put this together. Fuck you and your ambi selector. I'll get one when I get around to it I've got other shit to waste money on now. Ronin belt, here I come.
>>42579738>roninNoice, and good choice. You're going to love it an Tu Lam is a real one. >God dammitHey man at least I'm just bullying your gun instead of threatening your family, threatening to swat you, or otherwise engaging in the more toxic forms of /arg/ "banter">>42579733Nice fucking SBR dude. Fixed front iron though ehh. What is up with your selector? I've never seen a 35 degree throw one. I kinda want to try a CTR with that buttpad on my CQBR build eventually.
>>42579733>stock unlockedI bet your dust cover is open too
>>42579753/arg/ is a special place full of special people. I went over to /akg once, it was awful. >>42579757It’s not stamped. So the stock isn’t actually installed it’s just set up that way for the picture. 0/10 whole build.
>>42579753If the hammer isn’t cocked then the safety only goes that far? Or it’s broken.
>>42579733>SBR aero>not SBR coltGross
>>42579766Enjoy your ATF raid retard
>>42579796Not my gun, not my post, retard.
>>42579789>SBR colt>not MG coltGross
>>42579757>unlocked CTR>open dust coverLewd like donating to the ADL>>42579766/akg/ is terrible because they're poorer, dumber, and more fudd. At the same time some of the best posters in /arg/ are those that have AKs too. It is the exclusive AK owner that is the real cancer. >>42579789Post SBR>>42579778Weird. Nice image. Is that the stainless steel Anderson trigger? If so ditch it. I've heard bad things about SS triggers and work wear.
>>42579808ALG. Do you use the 556 end cap on your sandman?Pic is spikes sbr
>>42579808I was never a fan of aks. Had a nice Bulgarian one a while back, and let me tell you something you already know, they’re shit.
Which one to get? Just the cheapest one?
>>42579889>factory pinned SF optionsBased bufferoni
>>42579889A2xThe BCM comp is also nice
>>42579407>>42579419basedwhat's good eotech nerds
>>42579916>Vortex>ALG>SI bolt releasestop it, get some help
>>42579920Buy a comp m5 for that
>>42579722>that rifle is better than almost any fucking AK.maybe any AK built by you, loser.
>>42579932416 and Eotech go together like peanutbutter and pickles
>>42579920If I stop, I die
>>42579840>think safety>Unlocked lock>That hoseGreat composition. Really dig the picture. That is your 300blk right?IMO get rid of the Strike Industries dust cover. I like it otherwise. I'm thinking about trying an RMR piggybacked on the acog on my 14.5" as opposed to the offset T2. I'm just using the .30 cal factory end cap for now. A .22 caliber FH end cap is likely in the future. >>42579856I've got mine almost entirely for the "gun collector" aspect. They're wholly inferior. >>42579889IF you've got a suppressor already in mind, just have them roll the A2 on there non pinned and have a local gun smith pin and weld your suppressor specific muzzle device. If you don't have a suppressor in mind, but do have a particular muzzle device in mind, then do the same. If neither of those applies to you, just go with the A2X. It'll will act as a reasonable compensator and decent flash hider. People forget that the A2 FH is actually a pretty good muzzle device. >>42579920Kek>>42579937M16A4 needs KAC panels
>>42579937Imagine letting the heat transfer from your piston shift your zero
>>42579963The good news is that the eotech is not mounted on the front of the handguard and the quad works like a massive heatsink
I have about a dozen ban era Colt barrels of various lengths I want to sell. Most are 16”, some are 20”, all are heavy barrel with no threaded muzzles. What’s a realistic asking price for them on Arfcom, and do you think any of them will even sell? Who will willingly buy a ban era barrel? I got them all at a flea market for a stupid price so I’ll make something on them regardless but is it even going to be worth my time listing them if nobody is going to want any?
>>42579326What has more power, a poorly-run government website or a legal document?
>>42580052In my experience the former
>>42580052You can beat the rap, but you can't beat the ride.
>>42579766>It's not stamped. So the stock isn’t actually installed it’s just set up that way for the picture.you're such a fag holy shit
>>42579407>>42579419your gun looks like what gets posted here on "post reddit builds" threads
>>42579958Note that while aks are inferior, he fucked his up so bad that they're worse
>>42577804emy amethyst ahahahaha
>>42579546shit talking fat fuck commie with AIDS from the needle.
>psa can ship the pistol brace and it's here in 3 days after ordering >still processing lower and upperOkay I could maybe understand the lower since it's FFL but what the fuck are these niggers deal do they only have 3 workers? I just want my 11.5 fun
>>42579527Giddy is a weak coward worse than A2 he is giving his guns and asshole up when the boys kick his dads door in.
Looking to get into ARs, how do Daniel Defense and BCMs compare for first time rifles?
>>42580399DD barrels and rails are better than BCM but not to the extent of justifying the price difference for assembled rifles. BCM would be a great choice.
>>42580399BCM definitely the way to go. DD makes good rails, good accessories, but BCM makes better rifles. >>42579958I was thinking about getting an ak 'pistol' just for shits and giggles. Thoughts?
>>42580399daniel defense is overpriced mediocrity marketed toward boomers and those too incompetent to build a rifle.
>>42580410>barrelson average I agree>railsa few of their nicer ones
>>42580052Here I’ve got a helpful info graphic for you https://youtu.be/CTsLdVvMev8
>>42580410>>42580413>>42580416So, if going with BCM, what’s the difference between their mid 16 carbides and their REECE carbides? Which is preferable to get?
>>42580465https://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-BFH-14-5-Mid-Length-ENHANCED-Light-Weight-p/bcm-urg-mid-14bfh-elw-mcmr-13.htmThis is the best. Hands down. The mid 16 has an a2 fsp, this has a low profile gas block. If you feel you must get a 16, you're free to do what you want, but you should definitely consider a 14.5.
>>42580399get the Daniel Defense. there's so much DD hate here because everyone is a poor fag.
>>42580472So what lower should I get with it?
>>42580521Aero lower is the /arg/ special. But you can get whatever as long as it’s not Anderson. For max Buffoni, get a Buffoni lower.
>>42580399sr15 uppersr15 lower
>>42578650Whats the battery life on an Eotech, and do they have auto turn off anymore?
I need to get an eokek for my m4orgery. Is the 512 best choice for that 2004 Iraq look?
>>425805213rding aero. Stag has a cooler rollmark and isnt much more expensive though. I like the stag.>>42580472if he doesnt mind the pinned brake on a non-sbr 14.5" is a nice length. 16" is a bit long for a quick rds mounted rifle imo but at least the brake is removable and it's legal.
>>42580472Also, add BCM bolt carrier group?
>>42580581>stag>Buying from a company that sells Chinese knockoffs for profit.
>>42580586Yes>>42580581Unless you’re mounting a can, you shouldn’t need to remove the muzzle. If you want to run a can, you might as well get an SBR bc why not? >>42580573Technically it says 600 hours so about a month of 8 hour days. But it all depends on how often you shoot. Yes they still have auto off, but it’s not that big of a deal. I change my batteries every 5-6 months unless it starts flashing.
>>42580589>want a lower>choice between having a big "A" or a cool deer with antlers>not wanting the cool deereven hk has a stag horn marked on their guns
What is a man to do when his LWRC has wiggle between upper and lower?
>>42580601Ok so going with that 14.5 BCM upper and decided on thishttp://shop.bravocompanymfg.com/AR15-M4-BCM-Lower-Receiver-Group-Stock-Mod-0-Black-p/lrg-stk-mod-0-blk.htmDo I put Murcia or BCM star on it?
>>42580625post your milled spartan skull lower
Should I pull teh trigger?
>>42580626it's $15 cheaper from buds
>>42580655Oh sweet thanks
>>42580632P O O R F A G
>>42580323If a girl has white above the eyes she is crazy
Only know about them because of GT, are rosco barrels any good? I was thinking maybe I'll do an upper with either a geissele mk14 or a larue quad rail because I have a boner for quad rails, and with those options there aren't a lot of complete uppers you can buy so I figured I'd configure it myself, and the geissele comes with a gas block anyway so good barrel/upper options?
>>42580410>DD barrels and rails are better than BCMunpost this
>>42580632Take off the charging handle and buy a raptor but yeah you should
>>42580601What turns it back on motion? I am thinking about SBRing my patrol rifle and recent use of that thing made me want a dot with better parallax. Also do you know if rechargeables work in the Eotechs?
>>42580632BCM makes great bolt carriers. That being said you don't need one of their BCGs to have a good gun. You can get a quality BCG from toolcraft for 60-80 dollars. DOn't listen to the guy talking you into a raptor. The new BCM charging handles do the same thing and with that order will be cheaper than the radian.
>>42580680DD makes their barrels in house. Doesnt necessarily mean theyre better but they take pride in what they make. Some of their rails are pretty great but not the nigger lip ones
>>42580721>nigger lip oneswhat?
>>42580721Buffoni > DD>>42580731The rails where the bottom sticks out like a fat lip
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>>42579808>/akg/ is terribleyou couldn't even build an AK properly LMAO
>>42580731they have an inch extension on the bottom near the muzzle
Alright cool. Now that I got my rifle in the books, what kinda mags, ammo, and optics do you guys recommend for a first timer?
>>42580751Okay industries75gr gold dot for defense, 193 for plinkACOG + RMR >>42580749That doesnt make /akg/ good
>>42580626BCM Star >>42580698All you have to do is push a button and it resets it. If it’s a patrol rifle just turn it on when you start, and it’ll go for a full 8 hour shift. If your shift is longer, click a button halfway through. Problem solved. I don’t know about rechargeables.
>>42580737Yeah, that gives you more real estate to rest the rail for stability, and protects the barrel more. Some people want more from their guns besides if they look kewl.
>>42580766Ok, my issue was with if they could be shaken awake. The gun racks in the car shake a lot.
>>42580770sorry for your uggo rail anon, I hope you can still make use of it
>>42580751Yeah 75gr gold dot for shtf defence habbening. Wolf gold 55gr is the way to go for plinking and training. Buy pmags or USGI mags. Brownells with magpul followers are g2g
>>42580779Oh. No no that’s the holosun. Eotechs are turned on and off with the buttons only.
>>42580766Ok so with the BCM upper and lower decided on. How is this for an optic? https://www.cheaperthandirt.com/aimpoint-pro-patrol-rifle-red-dot-sight-matte-black/FC-7350004383399.html
>>42580751Im going to shill for 75gr hpbt hornady frontier if youre poor. Cost effective, good frag range, great on gel tests.
>>42580783I don't have one, I have a BCM. I just understand what other companies do and why and don't judge them for it. i also still think they look great.
>>42580801if youre considering a PRO in current year and arent cloning you might look into holosun. Thing is kind of dated m8.
>>42580797Ok, I think thats what I will be going with.
>>42580845Ah okay, didn’t know. Would that be good for a first time AR?
>>42580879acog+rmr or compm5
>>42580879There is nothing wrong with the PRO. Its still been around this long, unchanged, for a reason.They are solid dam near indestructible sights. The same can't be said for Holosun.
>>42580917Thats terrible for a first time AR buyer. Holy fuck stop giving people shitty advice.
>>42580922but it's tinted and uses a gay battery
>>42580917imagine being this retarded
>>42580845>if youre considering a PRO in current year and arent cloning you might look into holosun. Thing is kind of dated m8.Be quiet
>>42580676Someone answer this pls
>>42580801Pros are fine. I personally prefer my EOTech over them though because I like the clarity. But the pro is a perfectly good optic. However, with your build I would recommend waiting, and saving enough for an aimpoint T2. Or even a T1. The T2 is a phenomenal optic and you will literally never feel like you made a bad choice with it.
>>42580413>shits and gigglesEh. Fucking loud. IMO if you're going to get an AK these days just hunt around for a used WASR at a pawn shop or LGS, try to snag it for a good deal (less than $650?) then throw some nice wood on it or something. Alternatively have a builder build you up a Romanian kit and be out the door for around $950 or so perhaps?Just get a simple classic AKM imo, then leave it at that. >>42580482>everyone here is a poor fagExcept tons of people here with KAC and LMT and 5 figures in AR collections dislike DD because they're overpriced and bring nothing novel to the table?>>42580615Accuwedge and realize it doesn't really matter. >>42580632You won't regret it, except IMO skip their BCG and CH. Just get a Radian ambi handle and a toolcraft BCG and save yourself some money. >>42580676>>42580989Rosco barrels are fine quality wise, but they've got no modern profiles or anything and afaik don't even offer CHF CL barrels. Skip IMO. You can do better with BCM BFH CHF ELW or DD LW CHF. >Quad railBCM MCMR or just do a clone and use a DD rail. >>42580751For your 14.5" an Acog with a red dot would be cool, or a T2 and an Eotech G33 on a Unity FAST setup. >>42580801PRO is fine but if you buy one make sure to get it used. There are a TON of used ones on the market. Also bear in mind that the PRO is getting kind of long in the tooth these days. You're likely better served by a micro red dot. >>42580922>Holosun not durableThis is simply not true. Holosun's are rather durable for their pricepoint.
>>42581050>Just get a simple classic AKMI don't plan on shooting it often, because I hate them. So that in mind there's something about a krink that tickles my pickle. I'd enjoy having one of those for collective purposes.
>>42581009Holy shit thanks. That T2 looks great. So with all that out of the way. What should I get for a forward grip?
>>42581074The T2 is phenomenal. If you want gucci you can get a comp m5, but honestly the T2 is perfect. Save up, and hell try to buy one from the arfcom EE. You can usually find them with decent mounts for ~$600. If you absolutely want to buy new get it from Larue because its probably the best price for it and a quality mount. I fucking hate grips on my guns. That said, I run shorter shit usually so it just gets in the way.Just get the buffoni stubby vert grip and angle it forwards to use as a hand stop. Thats what 99% of people do. If you don't like it you can try out the bcm kag. If you dont like that either, just run it naked.
>>42580934I never had a problem with tint, What is your autistic obsession with optic tint on this sight?>Holosun not durable>This is simply not true. Holosun's are rather durable for their pricepoint.You are implying here. I never said they weren't durable, but they certainly aren't as durable as an Aimpoint or even Trijicon. You even have to buy a new mount for them for christs sakes.>Also bear in mind that the PRO is getting kind of long in the tooth these days. What does this even mean? Is your 50-60 year old AR design long in the tooth?>Just get a Radian ambi handle and a toolcraft BCG and save yourself some money.The charging handle in that picture is ambi and cheaper than the raptor. Stop giving shitty advice.Jesus fucking trip fag batman.
>>42581074I'm sure you're going to ask so I'm just going to throw it out there.For lights, just get the M600Df from arisaka with the inline mount and be done with it. Get a switch if you want, momentary on is fine. For slings, vickers padded is 110% comfy. Just be sure to get some good qd sling mounts like magpul. For irons, magpul pros. Again, EE they can be had for cheap. I like the CTR, but some prefer the sopmod stock so thats your call. beyond that, spend your money on ammo and training. Don't forget gear.
>>42581102>>42581074Eh. So off of LaRue the 660 and T2 combo is $775Off of Scalarworks the Leap Micro and T2 combo is $799Difference is the Scalarworks mount is 1.6oz vs 2.8oz, comes in 1.93" height (which you might consider), and actually clamps the rail in a traditional pic rail clamp way as opposed to the wedge mechanism LaRue uses. Don't get me wrong the LaRue is fine, but the Scalarworks might be better. If this is for your 14.5" though skip all of that and go Unity FAST setup with a G33 magnifier. Also just buy your T2 used from Tacswap or AR15com as you'll save a good bit of money and used Aimpoints are good to go. Stubby BCM vertical grip is a good call. >>42581069Collecting is never ending, but IMO if you're starting your AK collection, just start with a standard AKM, the kind normies will recognize. Just my 0.02If I'm going to ever do another AK build or buy one it will be a plain steel wood AKM. >>42580922>>42581126>They are solid dam near indestructible sights. >The same can't be said for Holosun.The notion that there is some vast durability difference between a Holosun micro red dot and a T2 is false. >What does this even meanHeavy, poor battery life, large foot print, coarse brightness adjustment compared to Holosun. Micro red dots are better, more modern designs. >Stop giving shitty adviceThe new BCM charging handles can't be RTV modded for suppressor use. The Radian Raptor can be had for $50Stop being mad
>>42580465>mid 16 carbides and their REECE carbideswhat is a Carbides and for that matter what is a REECE
>>42581154No it isn’tWe have already told you. Holosun makes shit that will literally fail with zero warning sign. You have to actually shoot to realize this, but knowing that you store your shit after maybe 2 range trips then sell it I can see why you would get confused.
>>42581102>>42581138>>42581154Sweet, thanks guys, I really appreciate it. One last thing, what ammo do I use for plinking and practice and what do I use for home defense and SHTF?
>>42581154>scalarworksNo thanks Lucas. I'm going to stick with a true PATRIOT by the name of Mark fuckin' Larue. And 1.93 is only for beams and giraffes. But support the EE if you find one with a good mount on there. >collecting is never endingYeah but I'd feel bad for getting 'another' ak after I sold the Arsenal. Unless I got another arsenal, at which point I would feel like a fucking idiot for getting rid of the objectively better one in the first place. I wish I was old enough to snag up a good russian AK back in the day.. Thanks Obama.
>>42581188DIdn't we tell you this already? Wolf gold or any cheap 55gr 193 clone for plink and training. 75gr speer gold dots for HD/Boog/Habbening.
>>42579796What grip is that?
>>42581198No, maybe to another anon but that wasn’t addressed to me.
There is no dot more Chad than the compm4s
WhatGrip?WhatStock? you here?
>>42581154>The notion that there is some vast durability difference between a Holosun micro red dot and a T2 is false.You have to replace the mount on a Holosun out of the box. Thats an issue right there. I was also talking about the PRO not the T2.>Heavy, poor battery life, large foot print, coarse brightness adjustment compared to Holosun.Its not that heavy, and for the weight you get a rugged and easy to use and maintain optic with better field of view.The Pro has 4 years of battery life, but no one even pushes them that far anyway so what the fuck is your complaint?"LArge FOot PRiNt" who gives a fuck? I know you are a tripfag but how much shit do you need to put on your rifle anyway?The brightness is the stupidest most contrived argument I have ever seen.>The new BCM charging handles can't be RTV modded for suppressor use. They are gas buster charging handles, they are made from the factory for suppressor use.>The Radian Raptor can be had for $50Where? This is like those NIB 350 glocks, and NIB 400 dollar T2s I keep hearing about but never see.
Can someone take a picture of the red dot at setting "5" or "7" or around there on an aimpoint micro T1 or an analogue in normal daylight? I just bought one off Amazon and I can barely see the dot at those settings. Wondering if it's fuck.Thanks in advance
>>42581263>buying optics off amazonoof. better make sure it's not a knockoff. How will you know you ask? Lmao, when you get it and amazon tells you to go fuck yourself. Aimpoints are plenty bright. Youll be ok
>>42581242Don't waste your time. Once you blow out all his points he will ask you to stop shitting up the general. His footprint argument is in line with his autism around 14.5 and 16". Like 1.5" shorter suddenly makes the gun infinitely more maneuverable.
>>42581278It IS noticeably shorter and for most people that's all that matters. It technically is more compact, and the placebo effect makes people think it's like going from a 20" to a 10.3.
>>42581242>mount out of the boxAnd you can snag an ADM mount and slap it on a HS503GU and be done for $180 which is a fraction of the PRO and the entire optic setup will be 5oz vs like 13oz>Not that heavyBare PRO no mount is 7.5ozFactory mount depending on height is 4-6ozBare micro red dot, even Holosun is like 3.5oz Mount is 1.6-3ozPRO is twice the cost and more than twice the weight. >better field of viewIt is a fucking red dot, this meme has got to stop. >4 years3 on low setting. Holosun has more than double the battery life. >Large foot printSnag hazard, makes it hard to run back up irons or a magnifier. >How much shit do you needNo one needs any of this but if you're running a a night SBR shit gets crowded. >brightness is the stupidest most contrivedBhahaha do you even shoot? Having a fine brightness adjustment is ABSOLUTELY necessary for optimizing apparent dot size in a variety of lighting conditions.You want the dot just bright enough to see in your conditions. Fine adjustment allows for that. This is also important for making precise shots at distance. >WhereJust searching fucking gundeals. >>425811891.93 has the heads up meme going for it. What kinda shorty would you do?
>>42581292It's probably noticeable in confined spaces like a car or a house. But I don't feel much of a difference between the two when using them at a 2 gun or training course.
>>42581242Sunnystateoutdoors for the radian raptors
>>42581316Hey you got any braces for sale?
>>42579753Are your pistol mag pouches kydex or is that a BFG
>>42581337Oh shit l33t h4x0r numbers
>>425813161.93 is stupid even with the whole 'nods' excuse because literally no one shoots through optics under night vision. And I'm not a fan of the chin weld, people bitched about the acog/rmr chin weld but now they want to raise their red dots up as high as they can. I just dont get it. >shortyI'd really want a 5.45 krink for reasons, but I'm not big into AK's so I wouldn't know where to start looking. That's down the line though, if ever. I'll start collecting once I get the rest of my gear and take some classes. I can't justify putting $2k into a meme build when I don't even have more than a basic rifle class under my belt
>>42581316>snag hazard>coming from the same guy who shills bad leversYou are a clown
>>42581382>people bitched about the acog/rmr chin weld but now they want to raise their red dots up as high as they can. I just dont get it.The people who complained were low IQ rural retard maga chuds from flyover states>I'd really want a 5.45 krink for reasonsDo it
>>42581404>do itNot everyone has access to a bottomless firearm budget.
>>42581400>Bad lever extends like 2mm outside of receiver>Aimpoint PRO likely 4x the volume, 2x the length, and 1.5x the width of micro red dotYou're the fucking clown. >>42581382I've never done shoot house shit so I really can't speak to the whole heads up thing. >5.45 KrinkGood collector call. >>42581347EsstacGood to goKydex insert in cordura>>42581337No sorry
>>42581428Thats what i thought i am currently using some London Bridge 40mm pouches but i have some BFG 10 speed that i may start using.
>>42581428But you actually need the optic, unlike the meme lever. Its just creating more shit to snag on, retard.
>>42581456>actually need the opticAkshully irons do just fineWho needs optimized controls and more precise aiming mechanics? Fucking trip fags I swear
>>42581428>No sorryDamn, what is the cool brace now? The sba4?
r8 my newest ash clone
I hope everyone is ready for Wuggy to go full autism about 14.5 BCM ELW and holosun micros for the rest of the year before be convinces himself some other meme shit is THE ONLY correct path.Anyone also notice how this dude constantly goes from humble friendly Wug posting to aggressive autism smug cunt when anons stop bashing and threatening him. Like what the fuck is wrong with this guy.
>>42581438I'm still not even sure how you managed that one, so what do I know? >>42581428>5.45Yeah I'll look into it when I am more financially stable. That is, assuming that they aren't banned by then.
>>42581469>optimizedPutting a chunk of metal in your trigger guard is not optimized, dumbassIt must really suck to be a manlet not capable of reaching the bolt hold open on your own mars-l.
>>42581501That's not even close to the new upper
>>42581527Buy a 74 folding cut receiver right now and have it built out when you have the budget.
>>42581549I didn't even know you could buy AK receivers. Maybe I'll buy myself that for christmas.
I have these two lowers, the left is KDG, the right is Spikes, what would you guys make of this? The buffer retainer hole further back on the Spikes than on the KDG. Does this matter?
>>42581501Was the SF4P worth it?
>>42581622>The buffer retainer hole further back on the Spikes than on the KDG. Does this matter?yes. return the KDG it is out of spec.
>>42581630No it doesnt matterKDG might have issues with a RDIAS
>>42581643It will make the buffer closer and cause more wear on the buffer itself.
>>42581648Dont listen to A2 https://www.ar15.com/forums/ar-15/Anderson-Lower-with-out-of-spec-buffer-retainer-pin-location/4-704244/ or maybe its the other way around but either way you should get rid of which ever lower is wrong.
>>42581501Ash/10 Nice job
>>42581630looks like the pocket is just longer
>>42578953Twice the thermal drift
>>42581549Shut up bitch i am starting to get sick of your shit.All your guns are trash and you have the body of a 12yo gamer.
>>42580041>no threaded muzzlesthats probably going to take longer to sell, unless you want to send them off to get threaded in which case im sure theyll sell out quick if theyre in good condition.
guize I'm doing it. I'm buying an NT4
Best magazines to get?
Can anyone here give me any real reasons why a magpul’d m4 is any worse than an m4 with a quad? Polymer is durable and with the magpuls over the standard round handguard you can actually mount a light to it easily. I see no reason to go with the heavier, more expensive option.
>>42581866Because quads are eternal
How am I doing for my first AR, ARG? Mid length gas, 16" barrel. I know it's a piece of shit, but it's just a holdout until I can save up to get myself a KAC.
>>42581897>literally who red dot>not a Buffoni >16” Ew.
>>42581897Not awful but not greatyeet optic into trash, buy better optic and use it until KAC comes.
>>42581861>GoodI'll post proof tonight or tomorrow when I get a receipt
>>42581897Could be better but could be worse. Fine for budget/10. Get a light fren it gets dark.
>>42581897Put your rear sight all the way at the end and no I dont care what retarded excuse you have for it not being there
>>42581935No one actually cares.
>>42581991It looks like shit unless it’s in the back I don’t see why people do that.
>>42581927Would you recommend an MR556? I have the money for either an MR556 or an SR15.
Anyone know if the Diamond Like Coating from toolcraft is good?
>>42582063get a cooler looking rear sight then lol.
>>42582093No. Sr15. The mr556 is a failed abortion that should not exist.
>>42582093>Would you recommend an MR556?Not over a SR15
>>42580269Imagine posting your AR and goofy-ass shoes and getting no (you)'sPls just one today I had to sit through my gender studies class and I have no hope for the west
>>42580269>>42582181Needs MBT and the correct sopmod stock but otherwise thats fine start
Would I be a fool if I put an SSA-E into a 11.5 inch build?
>>42582181>signed up for a gender studies class instead of some other class that fit the recs Retard alert class.
>>42582212It did fit the recs actually, worth two other classesI have regerts>>42582194saving for SSA-E, and didn't need the toobz
>>42582226>saving for SSA-EDont, just get MBT>didn't need the toobzIts not just about the tubes. The enhanced fits better and looks better
>>42582237B-but bendybillEither way, I'm waiting until summer to buy shit again, so we'll see
Just got my mags and ammo finally. Loaded my first full 30 round mag. These are hefty huh.
>>42582309what mags you got?
>>42582226Isn’t gender studies an elective? Couldn’t you possibly have taken some other non gay class to get the credits? I mean shit. Don’t subject yourself to that horse shit you fucking mad man.
>>42582315Some Pmags that were on sale. Also some surplus ones that a family member gave me. One of those is Marked M16/M16A1.
>>42582309They’re a pound.
>>42582326Yeah but Im used to BX25s
>>42582319It technically is, but it counts for two needed credits. I'd rather save time/money if it means pissing off basic white chicks and overweight shitskins
>>42582319Not him but a lot of schools set graduation requirements that include a minimum amount of humanities or other bs credits. The worst classes often fulfill the most requirements. Source: unhappy college student in an intercultural communications class
>>42582378ThisAlso that sounds worse, is your teacher also some middle-eastern chick?
is this the right ammo I need for plinkinghttps://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/59267/wolf+223+remington+55+grain+full+metal+jacket+bi+metal
>>42582423Yes but buy it from sgammo
>>42582393I'm taking it online because its easier to feign interest
>>42582460Fair enough, no one really says much in my class anyway
>>42582439>>42582432buds is cheaper than both of these sites
>>42582467its such a dumb, useless class and it makes me hate communication majors
on topic, is still really all that much less reliable than brass if your isn’t fucking broken and properly maintained?
>>42577846DONT TAKE THIS AWAY FROM ME CRETIN>>42577900That being California penal code, it wasn't the state of California which prohibited possession of firearms, it was the state of Washington. So by having this charge expunged, it will filter through FBI NICS and no longer apply to Washington!Who knows if I can hold office now. As far as the court is concerned I pled and was found "not guilty" and the record has also been expunged.>>42578470Just the G2C, TX22 and PT92, I have no defense of the others. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater you know?>>42578910Hey, you're alive! That's great.
>>42582490Buds is 5.86/box, .29c/rdTargetsports is 5.39, .27c/rd. And targetsports doesn’t charge shipping for bulk ammo.
>>42582530Shipping ammo is fucking experience too. Because heavy.
You guys are going to be jealous of my new AR upper
>>42582594Sure we are
>>42582603You will be, no AR.
Thinking of splurging on a Colt M4 6920 or an FN15 M4 because I can. Anyone shot and compared them to cheaper ARs? I have, just curious if I’m missing something
>>42582614If you can find it get the colt. Before they disappear.
>>42582614Well Colt just seized civilian rifle production so maybe that one will be more valuable to retards if you wanna sell it later
>>42582630halted not seized fuck I'm tired
>>42582610Just because I dont post a picture of one of my guns, doesnt mean I don't have any. I just dont think you are remotely capable of putting together nice without bullying/help
>>42582660You will be jealous of my clone build
>>42582692Post your AR
>>42581316>>better field of view>It is a fucking red dot, this meme has got to stop.This is how I know you don't shoot your guns. Field of view through the optic is more important than keyboard warriors realize. If I have back up irons i want as much field of view through the red dot as I can get. Thats important for people who use their guns for work.>3 on low setting. Holosun has more than double the battery life.No its 4. It will be replaced every birthday anyway on either optic.>Snag hazard, makes it hard to run back up irons or a magnifier.If I run a mag its will be with an Eotech, or just go LPVO. Its never been a problem for the numerous countries that use the fucking things.>No one needs any of this but if you're running a a night SBR shit gets crowded.I wouldn't use a PRO on a "night" SBR nor would i use some chinesium red dot due to parallax issues. You only need a white light and a DBAL any way how does that interfere with a fucking PRO?>Bhahaha do you even shoot? Having a fine brightness adjustment is ABSOLUTELY necessary for optimizing apparent dot size in a variety of lighting conditions.You want the dot just bright enough to see in your conditions. Fine adjustment allows for that. This is also important for making precise shots at distance.It was never a problem in the academy or with my MRO. Maybe you just suck?
people pushing the 14.5 lately>have to rely on gunsmith>cant remove or replace some parts>less velocity>less dwell time>frankly, a hassle all aroundFact is 16 inch mid length is the best all around setup. Imagine going to so much trouble and giving up so much just for a inch and a half off your barrel. I mean, if you have so much time and money just go lobby the government to stop cucking the 2a.
You all will be jealous of my clone
>>42582729>BaldanonNo thanks bud
>>42582716>If I have back up irons i want as much field of view through the red dot as I can get.Just remove the red dot if it goes down.
>>42581428You wont snag on the optic, but that bad lever could for sure snag on parts of my uniform/gear.
>>42582747So I wont be jelousGot it
>>42582747I don't know how you can afford such nice guns but not afford a hair transplant
>>42582767I mean you will be. It's nicer than your just as good rifles.
>>42582776Nice replying to yourself!
>>42582750Again, another person who has these as toys only.
>>42582794I didn't want to give baldanon a 2nd (you)https://www.bosley.com/ here baldanon
>>42582717A well tuned 14.5 inch gun has better gas than a 16 inch mid length. Did you think that 14.5 inch forces you into Carbine length gas?
>>42582804I can understand how preparing for shit to break is important for the eotech user
>>42582804>>42582750>hello yes enemy? please stop shooting while i remove my optic that i haven't properly calibrated the tension on the QD mount for, and have never practiced taking off expeditiously or with elevated heart rate
>>42582850>not behind coverYou weren't going to make it anyway
>>42582842Eotechs don't break, they just have low battery life. Thats the price to pay for superior reticle and field of view along with true parallax free.I am talking about standard red dots too. I have an MRO and with lower 1/3 cowitness I can barely get a good sight picture.
>>42582629>>42582630Damn, why did they halt production? I’m out of the loop. It’s the SOCOM Edition that I found locally for about like $1400 or so
>>42582871>Thinking you will always be behind coverWew lad
>>42582897Because they're on the verge of bankruptcy and want to try to focus on contracts allegedly. Shits new news. Still guns on the market and armslist
>>42582897Ask A2>>42582842Eotechs don’t break. They’re every bit as durable as aimpoints. The battery life is the only true issue with it, apart from the size. Aimpoints are simple, Eotechs are a little more complex. Both are great options.
>>42582894Eotechs are significantly more fragile than an aimpoint
>>42581154did this tripfag say PRO has poor battery life?oh shit he didBAAAAAAAAAAHAHA
>>42582906same story different year
>They’re every bit as durable as aimpoints
>>42582897should have stocked up on colt m4 lowers last year
>>42583068why? they're like Eoshits>b-b-but the military uses.....yeah. the military uses the lowest bidderunless you want to sell them to colt cucks for profit, which would be hilarious
>>42583090>lowest bidder Imagine thinking this half truth is the whole truth.
>>42582630"seized"You mean ceased
>>42583097sorry about your colt. how many times has it been back for warranty work
What's the deal with Primary Arms? has anyone proven they are bad or good red dots?I see they are liked on other online places like youtube, but I thought I would ask you guys as y'all allways have an opinion on things that don't break your bank.
>>42583135I know it’s hard to understand how this works when your IQ is barely above room temperature, but the wealthiest and most powerful military on earth isn’t giving out contracts for garbage. But you go ahead and tell yourself whatever you need to.
>>42583156t. never served
>>42583167Like I’ve said before, we learned a lot of shit really fast in Iraq. Mainly, that you can’t expect to be able to leave guns sitting around for years and then have them function flawlessly in a fucking desert. The initial complaints about military equipment being awful stems from the early M4’s and M9’s being old and abused. Modern US military equipment is top notch. Even the marines have better shit these days, or they did before they replaced their m4’s with fucking hk guns.
What's the lightest single stage trigger I can get on the market? >inb4 why single stageBecause to me the first stage of a two stage trigger just feels like slop. I like the wall straight out of the gate.Also, what optics for someone with astigmatism?
>>42583231>what opticsPRK. Invest in yourself.
>>42583238For some reason I hadn't even considered that. I shall save to fix my fucked up eyes instead. Thanks anon.
>>42582226>going to a school that even has Gender Studies
>>42582924Ok, but I thought we were shitting on the aimpoint?
>>42583247Finance it if you can shit. Most places will let you do a zero down, zero apr if you can pay it off in 12 months. Which is a sweet deal. I paid about $3900, it’s a bitch but when you go from glasses for 20ish years to just being able to see, it’s a great feeling.
>>42583281>Only $3900I mean I work a part time job but even then I can save for a few months for a life of clear vision. Christ that's a lot cheaper than I thought.
>>42583347You’re telling me. I thought it was gonna be like $10k/eye lmao
>>42583347Ahh living with mom
>>42583273>I have an MROlmao nah nigga, we're shitting on you now
>>42583399I might as well take advantage of it by stuffing all the money I can into an etf/index fund and get eye surgery, my dude.>Downside is that I can't buy pistols or stripped AR lowers because under 21
>>42583482What the fuck are you talking about can’t buy stripped lowers? When did this become a rule?
>>42582830no I don't, but a 16 incher has a perfect amount of dwell time for the ar platform according to the fact that the original design had a 20 incher with rifle length, which has just a bit more dwell time than 16 inch mid, meaning 14.5 with mid is not enough for top tier reliability, although it still works well.
>>42583512Stripped lowers do not have a barrel and thus are not classified as long guns yet. Under ATF rules anyone under 21 cannot buy any gun but a long gun. A stripped lower counts as "other".
>>42583482>I might as well take advantage of it by stuffing all the money I can into an etf/index fund and get eye surgery, my dude.You should definitely not get vision correction until you're in your mid to late 20's.
>>42583565Did not know that.
>>42583577I'm guessing because my eyes are still developing and if I get it now I might need to get it again later?
>>42583632Wait until you’re 20-21 at least. Your eyes are usually done being gay by then. It will not last forever. Because as you age they will get worse. Obviously. But waiting until you’re 27 is retarded because you’re missing out on 7 good years. You’re going to need glasses by the time you hit 50-60 most likely, but fun fact, most people do.
>>42583664Thanks anons. I'll put my money I was gonna put into an AR into savings for LASIK or PRK when I'm 21-22. In the meantime I still need something to hunt with, but I'll go for a cheap bolty instead.
>>42583866Might as well see a doctor as soon as you’re able. They’ll tell you when you should get it done.
>>42583866Don't listen to this >>42583664 dumb faggot. Your eyes can very easily be change into your mid 20's.
>>42584146Ok so I had PRK, have you? Have you got first hand knowledge given to you by an MD?
>>42584242Yes, you fucking moron.