AK General /akg/Thumbhole Foregrip Edition>Thread #855Old thread here >>41995300
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are there any good US-made AK-74m style muzzle brakes?
>>42015581I am sure CNC warrior or JMAC Customs has something for you.
For those who own these, how long did you have to wait for it?
Think I'm gonna trash this autism rail and use the bottom one to put on a Maadi I bought, top one won't fit on my UTG side mountThoughts?
>>42015628I didn't get that specifically but the Ironwood Designs furniture I got took a few months or so, but it was definitely worth the wait.Anything he has in stock already without having to make to order arrives in about a week or two, I found this out the hard way when I accidentally cracked my first upper handguard and had to buy another.
>>42015920What you want for the rail?
>>42016095I wouldn't sell something defective, that's wrong
it is my time>>42015628called me day after order, shipped to my door in 3.5 weeks. not bad
>>42016195based .410 saiga owner
>>42015628benefits over romanian dong grip ?
looking for a rear sight replacement mount for my ak to mount a red dot. I've seen mixed reviews or no reviews for every system I could find. Any suggestions?
9mm ak gang
So the SRU bullpup conversion kit for airsoft AK-47 is strong enough to withstand real steal recoil...https://youtu.be/G7N5IHjFV2k
>>42016323https://binoculars.ru/product/kronshtejn-tt-01-aksajga-viver-5-slotov/try and find one of these
>>42016334personally id have gone for the pistol, cuckbrace is easier to change out than chopping a barrel. how much u pay?
>>42016357Pistol registry in my state and the local sheriff hates me. >ow much u pay1300$ because my lgs cost 100$ transfer fees and they have a monopoly.
>>42016334nice saiga 9 senpai looks straight tarkov with the buttpad
>>42016372michigan? wtf i would drive 5 hours just to spite that douchebag. hell you should just get an FFL and charge 50 bucks youd probably make it a decent side gig.
just got surplus mags. on some mags the follower would get stuck in the middle so i had to push it out. is that bad? how do i fix it?
>>42016386>hell you should just get an FFL and charge 50 bucks There is a grand total of 1500 people in my town and I live in the middle of nowhere. I dont think I would get enough business to keep a licence. I hate that place, I'm the only guy younger than fifty to step into it and the only semi auto guns they have are m1911s. The only time I go there is for transfers. The last two guns I bought in another state because I had a conference in the same city as a big gun store.
>>42015440izlom is best camoizlom is best gun photo camo
>>42016602Nice Hillary hole and completely off topic post.
Did i fuck up my 5.45 saiga or make it better?Got it back in 2014 for $400 Going to strip the paint of and redo it since its been coming off.
Why did they call it the Galil instead of calling it the Kikenikov?
The ZPAP is available on Atlantic firearms now. Overpriced rebranded NPAP?
>>42017715>$800not even a boomer but it's getting ridiculous
H-hi guys can I come and play with you?
>>42015440The term you're looking for is AKMSU.
>>42018094Sorry, in which way was in this an AK again?
>>42018094>Fires intermediate cartridge>Weighs over 9lbs unloadedVery hard pass
>>42017715Don't bother. Now if you were getting a WBP, that would be a little more worth it as the barrels are chrome-lined. AKs are very overpriced right now. Unless you're getting a WASR or WBP, disregarding the ZPAP. A lot will argue that even the WASRs and WBPs are overpriced.
>>42017715I'd pay $800 for bulged trunnion, bayonet lug, better grip, 3 Mags, and no more weird safety cut out.
>>42016323https://www.atteroarms.com/?shopp_product=bravo-mountBest one. good price
>>42018094DESU I want one because Franklin Armory makes binary triggers for HK-type guns. Too bad they don't work with the 75-round drums.>>42018129No such thing.
>>42016304It’s krink length...
Daily reminder Romania makes superior AK variants
>>42016334Fuck of scav
whats a good price on a Chinese ak-74
>>42018300 r u avin urself a giggle m8?
>>42015440Does anybody other than century make/import a Draco-length AK? Preferably one with a brace or at least a tang on the back.
Opinions on the AK-12?Does anyone own one? Is it / was it worth the purchase?
>>42016406Probably some rust. Get a tooth brush and scrub out the insides of the mag with some CLP.
>>42016893Funny thing, Galili's original name was Israel Balashnikov.
>>42018406>anyone own a rifle that just came out and isn't even being used in mainline service by the country that adopted it yet
>>42018300fine type 88
>tfw still no 7.62 bakeI know at least one of you goobers has one for sale.
>>42016406Pull the spring out, and check the magazine body for dents, I had a Romy 40 rounder that was dented on the inside that wasn’t noticeable from the outside but it was enough to make the spring and follower get stuck
>>42018483>>42018520Not Chinese, but maybe if Trump becomes best buddies with Lil Kim, we could see some Nork milsurp imports.
>>42018676200 dollars no low ballers i know what I got
>>42018676https://rusweapons.com/?product_cat=ak-magazinesUS customs might cuck you though. I've only ever ordered Zenitshit from Russia.
Is the RH10 gtg? I really like the look, and the price is really good.
>>42018717i seen one for 600 down at gun store near me should i have bought it lol
>>42017734Man if I had a dollar for everytime I said this then half the thread turned around and went "ACTUALLY ITS A PRETTY GOOD PRICE WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT"Real ironic when the same people bitch about how much a WASR is>>42018201You ain't wrong https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2018/08/10/the-legend-of-akmsu-mysterious-ak-that-never-was/
>>42018717Yeah just like how we're seeing those Cuban AKM parts kit people said would flood the country, right?
>>42018913Wait, do you live in Pakistan or something?
>>42018955no PA it was labeled chinese ak-74
>>42018947DESU It's pretty obvious to anyone with critical thinking skills that the "AKMSU" is just a one-off custom build. It would be extremely difficult to mass-produce the lower handguard and muzzle device.>>42018962Either the bubba who works at that gun store is dyslexic, or it was one of the 5.56 Norinco AKs.
>>42018840What happens if customs fucks you? No money back I presume?
Too much time on AKOU
>>42018840You can get all those mags cheaper here fuck that shit. Even on gunbroker you can get 5.45 bakes for sub $50.
>>42019122Yeah, I've never heard of anyone having any issues with it before but there's always a chance. I'm going to be picking some up next paycheck and I'll post results if I get fugged or not.
>>42019169Maybe a year or 2 ago. 5.45 bakes go for 80+ now. You can get Bulgarian for like 50 if you're lucky but not any ruski shit
>>42019169>>42019184And 5.45 isn't really in demand anymore since the 7N6 ban.
>>42019184I just bought 7 5.45 mags (6 bakes and 1 plum) for $42-$45 a piece through various sites, including gunbroker. Maybe you can't find the deals but that doesn't mean that they're all going for $80+
>>42019032old guy usually know what they are talking about i always ask them what they do know a good amount even on the old Saturday night specials i collect they know stuff about the company that produces them even when there from the 60 lol
>>42019241Very nice anon! I need to pick up some more, I just got a VEPR recently. Got any links?
>>42019203It's a big shame. Still can find ammo for it though dirt cheap. I've seen people selling spam cans near me for about 16cents a round.
>>42019369Nope! They're all mine :^)
My dad bought a century arms AK. How decent/trash is this thing, /akg/?
>>42019415You'll have to be more specific than that.
>>42015440other than the galil are there any good 5.56 AK's?
>>42017715>>42017734>>42018947WASRs are overpriced. They're single stack conversions, with crap finishes and fit, but are priced too close to Arsenal territory.Idk about PAPs, I'm reading they use lesser steels?
honestly, what does one do with an i.o. ak? sell it and fuck over a rando? use it as a target? wall hanger?
>>42019156Upgrade that selector>>42018219Noice
>>42019491FNC, SG550, AR70honestly the SLR-106 is fine too as long as you don't get the early ones with the assraped bullet guide
>>42019430centurion 39 sporter
>>42019535>c39Trash, will probably blow up before it hits 1000 rounds.
>>42019497I'm a lefty, so it isn't a big deal to me but I think I will just out of principal
>>42019538https://akcollectors.com/They have sales/deals quite often. The B grade mags are alright, some scratches and rust, but for the most part nothing too bad.
>>42019602>leftyYou're lucky as hell then. I think that there are AK selectors with a thumb platform so you can actuate with you thumb. Might legit be the fastest most ergonomic AK safety actuation. https://ivantactical.com/shop/weapon-accessories/weapon-rails-and-tuning/rails-and-accessories/armacon-ak-enhanced-thumb-safety-selector/
>>42019610Hey thanks anon! Appreciate it.>>42019622Alright that's pretty sweet, I might just have to pick that up.
>>42018219Was it ever in question?
>>42018852Yes it's just a wasr with a different front sight/gas block definitely gtg
>>42019800There are (((some))) who think otherwise
>>42019821I'd argue it's better than a WASR because the monkeys over at century haven't touched it.
>>42019883>>42019821Thanks for the heads up, lads. Fell for the PSAK GF3 meme, and I want something I can actually trust. Might as well buy this instead, it's the same price.
Opinions on the RS regulate mlok handguard?
Im going to buy the psak74 when it comes out and theres nothing you can do to stop me
>wasting hundreds of dollars on orange magazines when you can make them yourself for a few dollarshttps://youtu.be/0Dcvrv5c_6I
>>42020081Bulgarian mags are selling for just as much as bakes, and getting anything else means no metal reinforcements. Congrats, your post is completely pointless.
>>42018159What do you mean “right now?” You think prices will ever go down?
>>42020081>that's how bakelite in insurgency sandstorm looks and that's why i refunded
>>42019899PSA is alright, but hasn't been extensively tested as much. WASRs/RH10 have hit 10k comfortably. Only thing you'll worry about after that (around 20k rounds to my knowledge) is a new barrel. And at that point you've already put 4000$ worth of ammo through it.
>>42020103Not that anon, but I don't see AK prices going down any time soon (honestly probably never unless something drastic happens). You can thank sanctions+Arsenal for the current AK prices. They've shown that people are willing to pay 1500$ for a standard stamped AK, so pretty much anything new to the market import wise will be around 1k. People will buy it so why would they ever lower the price?
>>42020149>falling for the Arsenal memes when a WASR works just fine>inb4 muh dimples
>>42020198But anon, I haven't fallen for the arsenal meme. Fuck arsenal and their price gouging trashing the AK market.
>>42020117>being this triggered by a magazine texture on a game that doesn't pretend to be a milsim
>>42019156Oooh that. Now that's nice. Who makes the gun?
>>42020043Me too desu, I want a 74 for the memes but the round isn't common enough to justify using for shtf. Solution is to get a cheap ass one from psa and just shoot it for fun
>>42020283it's not just the texture, it's modelled like a poly mag, and slav sights are done very poorly as well
>>42020339Idk man I'm too busy enjoying the game to get mad about things like the PKAS or bake textures
>>42020135Ya, I bought too soon and I do like the fit and finish and I've had 0 issues with it, but I'd rather have something I can rely on. thank you again for the advice!
>>42020363guess i'm more of a rising storm 2 guy
>>42020349ngl looks like shit
>>42016323Why not just use an RS Regulate, anon?
>>42016863It looks fine, anon.
>>42020103If Trump gets reelected and American-made competition gets good, maybe. Otherwise, no. I bought a WASR last year because I saw this coming. I paid $600, and I still think it was a pretty shit deal. A WASR should cost $500 - $550. The finish is absolute dogshit, and they're straight up not worth what they're going for. Get a kit build or an Arsenal at that point.
So /akg/ just how nice is my buddy? He is selling me a VZ 2008 with >6 mags (2 original 4 plastic), wire stock and full wood, 2 mag pouches, and a 2nd gas tube with a rail>all for $700 and he has only ran 2000 rounds through it
>>42020458>only 2000While that's not much it's about 20% of the barrel life until it starts losing accuracy.
>>42018431No. That was the designer retard.
>>42020458Not a bad deal but not really anything to die for. As for the 2k rounds, at least he's honest about it. Too many faggots like >>42020479 would probably shit on that but be perfectly fine buying something from a pawn shop or Armslist with who knows how many fuckin' rounds through it.
>>42020290newfags don't know what a fucking VEPR is.
>>42020501Galili, the designer of the Galil, is indeed the person I was talking about retard
>>42020542thanks, it is nice to know how many rounds went through it
>>42020290Ignore the other fag. It's a Molot Vepr, you can tell by the square bulge in the reciever to help support the thicker/heavier barrel. It's Russian, basically an RPK reciever and Barrel just downscaled to AK size.
>>42020349>wire folderAn even more ill-conceived "upgrade" for the AK than copying the MP 40's stock was.
This gets stuck here whenever I pull back and release on the leverHelpppI’m a noob
>>42020713Are you using a Croatian magazine?
>>42020730Pro Mag AK-47Blue steelAK-S30 item number
>>42020713That's normal. Lube will help a bit.
>>42020713shoot it until is beats itself smooth, then you'll have a nice floppy action
>>42020759You mean like the stuff I masturbate with?
>>42020713Looks to be getting caught on either the magazine or hammer
>>42019486Nah the steel is fine, they're just overgassed. Most replace the recoil spring with a wolff xp or an alg, some go as far as modifying their gas piston.I love my NPAP but I agree 800 is overpriced, hopefully they'll come down to at least 700 to be on par with WASRs and WBP foxes.
I ordered a “Napa 4003” style solvent trap and a AK to AR muzzle thread adaptor. Will it work as a suppressor?Of course I intend to form 1 it. Or do I? Devilish.
>>42020815You'd have to drill a hole on the other end, or else your solvent trap might rupture from overpressure.
Opinions on Krebs Core rifle?
>>42020672Thanks anon. I know enough about AKs that I know what good manufacturers are etc but I don't know enough that I can always tell them apart once the furniture is changed
Thoughts on the zpap?
>>42021306Overpriced right now but hopefully they'll come down in price once more are produced. If you get one anyway I'd advise you to replace the recoil spring with a Wolff xp or an alg, and replace or reprofile the hammer if it happens to be a tapco g2.
>>42021306its a yugothey're finethey AK
>>42021306Soft metal pos
>>42021390Not true, they're just overgassed
Enough with this dumb fucking “overgassed” meme already
You know what, I'm gonna say it. This thread generally accepts AKOU's stuff as being reputable, and Rob gave the GF3 PSAK a pretty glowing review. The only thing was the retaining pin, which was fixed. I realize that a WASR would probably be able to go through a few thousand more rounds than the GF3, but the GF3 is cheaper and has better fit and finish. Someone prove me wrong, I'm becoming retarded.
>>42021437"Soft metal" is the meme. There are posters who have gotten their yugos to 8k+ rounds and forum posts where they've done Rockwell hardness tests and they were within standard. Why would they be in the pastebin otherwise?
>>42019860Philistines, the lot of them
>>42021446>im becoming retardedIf you buy a psa you are already retarded.
>>42020416poors would rather save 1-5% on the cost and buy something they are well aware of that is lesser in every way so they have something to complain about laterthey're kinda like those girls who work at walmart after high school and talk shit about college and wonder why people recognize them from body cam videos on youtube
>>42021568See and that's my point. Any time anyone points out the reliability test or anything to that effect and people just call them retards and say muh wasr muh poorfags
>>42016061 The grain and color look good but I don't like how blocky the lower part of the forend looks.
>>42021604The point is psaretards are not worth arguing with.
>>42021618Is rob skii a psaretard then and is he not worth arguing with?
>>42021639Rob Ski has never been anything but a shill.
>>42021647Not that guy but you sound like a cuck elitist
Is the vortex sparc ar a bad ak sight?
>>42021742Nope, I used one for years and loved it. Eventually sold it and bought the latest and greatest but kinda wish I'd kept it
>>42021756New to the ak platform and I wasnt sure if the sparc would be decent for it or not. Can someone give me the lowdown on the best steel mags to buy? Are those Bulgarian steel mags on gunmagwarehouse any good?
>>42020363>PKAS is an anagram of PSAKTriggered
>>42021192Dude, the handguard literally says VPR on it.
>>42021390Don't listen to the salty tripnigger. They're fine rifles but not worth $800.
>>42021192Lurk moar newfag
>>42021604Welcome to 4chan
>>42021930>Are those Bulgarian steel mags on gunmagwarehouse any good?Yep, I got six of them. They come in light oil, but you can get it off really easily. One thing to note is that the follower is polymer. It doesn't really affect function, but they're technically not "milspec."
Anyone know if Ivan the bear has coupon codes?
>>42022105>fine rifles >not worth the industry standardThink about that.
all this psa shilling reminds me of people vehemetly defended their AKM247 purchase 3 or 4 years ago
>>42015440is the lynx 12 a good saiga copy or chicom garbage?
>>42022719if it works for thousands of rounds with not many issues then why is it bad to want to get it? seems like the new ones are fine.
>>42022752it could be a lot better, but it could be a lot worse to. you get what you pay for.
>>42022883>thousands of rounds so does c37v2. doesnt mean its gtg basic bitch wasrs last for over 100000 rounds in BFLV, is it really not worth the aunthenticity and ridiculously extended functionality for 75$ ? I dont understand this mindset, if i need a car i dont buy a segway because its cheaper
>>42020815replace the internals before shooting or youll have a bullet skip and shred the threads on the other end. i cut plastic circles out of a buckets bottom and used pvc as spacers and it worked ok on 5.56
>>42022909im not too keen on ak knowledge so im not sure what BFLV is, but im not an elite operator nor a larper so even 10k rounds seems good enough to me before internals start wearing, at which point i could just get new internals from psa, no?
>>42023069thats not how that works bucko. you dont plug and play new trunions and barrels like you can replace shit on an ar
>>42023224triangle folding, looks like standard 4.5mm>>42023069BFLV refers to Battlefield Las Vegas, a range with extensive full auto arsenalthey say european stamped aks run for ~80-100K cartridges before catastrophic failure
>>42022385>he thinks $800 is an "industry standard"Lurk more, tripfag. You're a bottomless pit brainlet if you paid $800 for something that wasn't an Arsenal.
>>42023127It is kinda how it works. Assuming PSA actually honors their lifetime warranty, which they've had great customer service with me for ARs in the past, they'll definitely replace the parts, whether that be sending him a whole new rifle or rebarreling it, etc.
>>42023354You go ahead and do that while all the non retarded people go ahead and get WASRs.
>>42019622How comfy is that bolt handle extension? Which one, and how secure is it? I've been considering getting one and a hold open selector for my pistol.
>>42023354im sure that will work fantastic while the 4 hood niggers that broke into your house are raping you because your rifle doesnt fire or alternatively when it goes out of headspace and deletes some of your body parts
>>42023441>using an AKM as a HD gun>>42023381I own a WASR, but I kinda wish I went PSAK since I'm gonna have to replace this shit furniture anyway. My friend's PSAK has run 1000% for about 1,200 rounds, which ain't significant but ain't nothing.
>>42023469>not using an AKM as an HD gun>not having fired 3k+ rounds through a WASR
>niggas not using an sbs for hd
>>42017244I didn't know I needed this until now.
>>42023501>jury of angsty goblina mothers>sees your le ebin xDD cartoon>instantly sends you to prison for shooting Tryone and Juan Good luck.
>>42020814Better to redo the piston, the ALG spring did not do much to the recoil and is just increasing trunnion wear.
>>42019535Tell your dad to kiss his hands and right side of his face goodbye.
>>42023576I'll shoot them too
R8 or H8
>>42015440Opinions on Definitive Arms AK’s? Can’t tell if they’re actually worth the money or if MAC found a new company to shill
Anyone bought from Ivan before? Want to buy pic related but dont know if it will get stopped at customs.
>>42024022I bought a bunch of zenit, took a while (like over a month I think) but I got it all. Even got a nice magnet.
>>42023501Not wanting to deafen the ones you miss >it’s like safety isn’t your number one priority
>>42024022It will get stopped at customs, but it'll be let through. Shocking, I know
>>42020117Mods exist you fucking sperg.
>>42023441Please name/link one time the GF3 was used in a HD scenario and either failed some way as to completely lose function or blew up. I'm pretty skeptical of the PSAK in general but this PSA hate is getting out of hand.
>>42024564patience, it'll shit the bed like a mean case of Crohn's
>>42023888They ain't worth the money, but they ain't shit either.
>>42023336Nah nigga i paid 750 for a beryl
>>42024768Haters will always hate, cheers on the come up!Deals are for winner like you and I!
>>42024679This I can get behind. This shit is legitimate, verifiable criticism. If this is common to more rifles 4-5k rounds in, GF3 is definitely a wash. Though on the other hand, now I can't justify using welfare/EBT to pick up a GF3.
Whats the deal with the korean KCI mags Classic is selling? They far too cheap not to consider, if nothing is wrong with them.
>>42025034It’s lierally the worst steel mag you can buy...
>>42025140If i buy the worst mag and put it in the worst rifle, do they cancel eachother out and function properly
>>42024768>>42024897>>42019622Dear Tripfags,Pic related.Sincerely, The rest of /akg/
>>42025338>all those Croatian mags
>>42025338Hey poor faggot, nothing has changed in years. Get over your sad pathetic self and go get laid.>>42025372Too poor too really make a statement...
>>42025445https://www.fluentu.com/blog/english/writing-letters-in-english/Здecь гoвopим пo-aнглийcки) >>42025420>Y-You're p-poor! Very original. How long it take your brain to dig that one out? >>42025372>tripnigger has gaps in his knowledgeColour me surprised. They're Serbian.
>>42018431I actually knew that. He changed his name twice because the first one he changed it to wasn't sufficiently jewy for them to want to name the rifle after him.
>>42025552You're still poor, no proof to the contrary poorfag. It took me soooooooo long to dig out!
>>42020416>RS RegulateI have a lefty folding triangle stock I actually use for storage
>>42018197They have been out of stock of awhile, I did notice them before
>>42019203nope that's fuddlore>2 lgs sell 5.45 (wolf) in my town>acadmey sells brown bear (monarch 5.45)>even fucking walmart has tula 5.45 locally >30 places online sell it stop being a boomer, 5.56 ak's are for tards who pay 100$ a mag
>>42019535your dad's a dumb boomer who doesn't research what he buys
>>42019860romanians make great 7.62 guns, their 5.45 and 5.56 guns are wacky and weird spec
>>42020746>pro magPlease Remember OurMagsAre Garbage but some real fucking surplus you tard
>>42023441Are you retarded?
>>42018717we were supposed to get a new surge of Russian milsurp because Trump and Putin were going to be bestest buddies, we were supposed to get Cuban imports, we're supposed to be swimming in Korean rifles as we speak. None of this shit has happened, and now you're expecting parts kits from one of the most reclusive regimes in the world? When are you retards going to give it up and realize it's not gonna happen anytime soon?
>>42025732Spoiler alert: you can still fold the stock, it just won't lock up.
Anyone have a sauce for Russian AK100 or 74M gas blocks and front sights for a Saiga conversion?
>>42027441Rus weapons maybe.
>>42026079t. has never owned or fired a 5.56 or 5.45 romy gun
https://www.shop.akoperatorsunionlocal4774.com/Polish-AK47-30rd-Magazines-Blued-Finish-Polish-AK47-Mag.htmwonder if these are any good? i mean obviously bobsled will shill them since theyre on his site but
>>42027798>no dimplesCareful there buddy, we don't need another autistic rage fit from OC.
>>42020814NPAPs had overgassing issues. OPAPs didn't and there's really no reason to assume ZPAPs will, honestly. Some have made the argument that Zastava QC was so bad with the NPAPs because of Century's pricepoint. IDK if that theory holds water but I have a "wait and see" attitude regarding the ZUSA stuff.Also Atlantic ALWAYS charges more than other retailers. We know this.IMO street price for these is gonna stabilize at just a bit above WASR prices, which IMO is what they're worth as someone who owns an NPAP and WASR.
>>42027798Gimme that mag
>>42027441There's a guy selling them on the Files right now
>>42024997>This I can get behind. This shit is legitimate, verifiable criticism.Every single person pointing out flaws in the rifle BobSled tested was also putting out legitimate, verifiable criticism bud, just like everyone who pointed out that the GF3 uses the same dogshit proprietary rear trunnion as past PSAKs that had a litany of documented issues.The metallurgy is shit and the rifles aren't made to ComBloc spec, and that makes them bad guns.
>>42027884I don't see why anyone'd pay more for a ZPAP than a WASR considering a WASR takes standard furniture and comes with an objectively superior barrel.
>>42028113>Objectively superiorThis is debatable, depending on what you want out of your barrel, considering the Serb barrels are beefier and still extremely well-made, but I do agree with you that the WASRs big selling points over Yugo rifles is chrome-lining (though again I don't think this matters as much as people think it does in this particular case, particularly if you're not running the gun full-auto like BFLV does) and the fact that as an AKM-pattern rifle it has a bigger aftermarket.Though again, the aftermarket for Yugos is a LOT better than it was 5 years ago, shockingly so in some ways. Pretty much the only thing that isn't readily-available for Yugos that is for other AKs anymore is cheap, abundant surplus furniture (and that's gotten much harder to find for AKMs than it used to be)And again, my NPAP is an all-around better-built, nicer gun than my WASR is, and I'll bet I've got more rounds through both of them than most people on /akg/ have through their guns, which is orders of magnitude more than your average normie dipshit shoots.I paid $500 for my NPAP, and no, I wouldn't pay $800 for what looks like the same damn gun. Like I said, I'm hoping the prices will stabilize downward a bit and I DO think your average normie WOULD probably pay more for a ZPAP than a WASR, they're the target market and desu a lot of people will still swear up and down that WASRs are junk.
Anyone got experience with Russian aluminum waffle mags? Are they worth getting?
>>42028227>I DO think your average normie WOULD probably pay more for a ZPAP than a WASR, they're the target market and desu a lot of people will still swear up and down that WASRs are junk.Literally yesterday in an LGS:>Go in to buy pistol mags>Bullshitting about AKs with clerk, he shows me an unconverted Saiga they have on consignment$850 btw and it's in good shape. It's a B West import. Think it's worth buying, /akg/? I don't have the tools (or shop space to put the tools) to convert it>Field-stripping it on the counter, looking over the internals>Off to my left a guy is fingerfucking a VSKA talking to his friends>"Yeah I'm pretty sure these are all US-made" (said like this is a good thing)>Someone confirms they are>[racks it a few times] "yep that's why the action's so smooth, All-American!"Considering that's the person they're trying to sell AKs to, I think they're probably gonna be ok unfortunately.
>>42028302What caliber is the Saiga
akd pt 12 when?
>>42028302had a discussion about that with my FLGS owner the other day. the average consumer would rather buy the AK that has magpul or other poly shit over the proven platform wood furniture rifle 9/10 times. only autists like us know the difference in pedigree, to anyone else theyre all the same
Why do women stop talking to me when I tell them I own an AK47
>>42028601why are you telling them
>>42028601Because they're autistic enough to know that you don't have an AK47, you have an AKM, and you're clearly not as into AKs as they are.
>>42028601Because they know you're too retarded to know the difference between an AK47 and an AKM
>>42028710>>42028617>he doesn't own a transferrable soviet army AK47
>>42028718post your type 1 ak-47 then...
>>42028822You can get em way cheaper online.
I paid $40 for an AK magGuess that's the price I pay for supporting american business instead of korean slave labor
>>42028899If you paid $40 for a pmag i might just piss myself from laughter.
>>42028906nah, it was an all metal mag
>>42028915Post pic of the mag
>>42028931its your standard black ribbed metal mag
>>42021446>I realize that a WASR would probably be able to go through a few thousand more roundsWasrs can probably go even more than a PSA going off of BFLV but I'll withhold my judgement until I see how the GF3 holds up with tourist all day magdumps
>>42029036Considering we've seen that it can't fucking handle semiauto magdumps without breaking I wouldn't hold my breath about it being g2g after a full-auto conversion.>>42021446>You know what, I'm gonna say it. This thread generally accepts AKOU's stuff as being reputable, and Rob gave the GF3 PSAK a pretty glowing review. He didn't though. His recommendation came with a fat fucking asterisk where he said it's flat-out not as good as European AKs and you should know what you're buying. He essentially gave it a D-: it passed, but barely, and only because Rob decided the fucking gun breaking didn't mean it failed for some reason.>The only thing was the retaining pin, which was fixed. Yes or no: did a fucking integral part of the gun that should require a punch for dissassembly fall out during a field strip?>I realize that a WASR would probably be able to go through a few thousand more rounds than the GF3Try "tens of thousands">but the GF3 is cheaper1) not much cheaper2) that pricepoint comes at the cost of a ton of corner-cutting in production.>has better fit and finish. lmfao tell that to all the guys who got guns with toothpick-shimmed handguards because the furniture didn't fit and PSA didn't think/care that they'd take it apart. No, WASR finish isn't good (you can fix it in 2 hours with a $10 can of appliance epoxy) but the fit is adequate, and again, it's a mil-spec gun, which a PSAK is NOT.Bud I WANT PSA to make a good AK. I WANT an affordable, WASR (or better) quality US-made AK. But we don't get that by making excuses for companies who don't make guns the proven way and pretending it's fine (or better than the real thing).I say it every time I comment on this subject: PSA ARs are good (or adequate at least) because they make them to mil-spec.PSA AKs aren't good because they don't make them to mil-spec.There's an easy solution: make the guns to mil-spec. But they aren't and won't while retards by wallhangers and make excuses.
>>42021446>pretty glowing reviewLMFAO he underlined "entry level" AND slammed their QC.Reminder that BobSled failed DDI's AK for the extractor (a $7 part) breaking. Why does he cut PSA so much slack? The Gen2 had a bunch of stuff he just ignored and the Gen3 literally broke
>>42029306I appreciate you actually discussing it like a non-retard first of all. In his vid rob used the word "excellent" and awful lot for someone who allegedly gave the gun a "D-". He even said at the end that he didn't doubt it could take another 5000 rounds. Again, I'm not saying that the gun is better than a wasr or worth purchasing over a wasr, but I think it deserves more respect than it gets, and I'd even say that its pretty damn good compared to what US companies have spit out before.
>>42029407Gun youtubers have a bad habit of accepting payment behind closed doors then promptly acting like they would never do such a thing.
>>42029407>LMFAO he underlined "entry level" AND slammed their QCYeah he says, in your pic, that its a very attractive entry level AK in the US market. The WASR is also a very attractive entry level AK. I never ever said that the PSAK is like a polish or bulgarian AK, i never even said it was as good as a WASR. But it deserves more respect than you retards give it and for a US made AK it does pretty well.
>>42015440Mind having a list that isn’t a few years out of date? >>42017734You can thank the Clintons for cucking us out of a lot of good shit. >>42018717>no cuban shit>no russian shit>no chinese shit>no vietnamese shitI have no idea why you would expect North Korea of all countries to be any different.
>>42029482I mean, you're ignoring the emphasisWhat he SAID was>If PSA will watch QC and not rush it, this will remain a very attractive ENTRY LEVEL option on USA market.>if PSA will watch QC and not rush itYeah PSA is famous for their QC, right?And again, he emphasized "entry level." He's hedging his language.Listen to how he talks about the WASR in these videos:https://youtu.be/MfUOfDcLX0Ihttps://youtu.be/kJn6SYFbHSwhttps://youtu.be/S2-7wvIQHFYhttps://youtu.be/qenoQ_U0oo0Do you HONESTLY think he thinks this are comparable guns? That they're in the same category quality-wise even though they're at a similar price point?
>>42029482>But it deserves more respect than you retards give it and for a US made AK it does pretty well.>For a US made AK it does pretty wellSee how you're hedging your language and making excuses for the gun?Being King Shit of Turd Mountain does not entail respect.Until it can hang with the real thing it will get trashed and people that cape for it will get trashed.WASRs have shitty finish and rough actions out of the box, but performance and durability-wise they're literally on the same level as (or better than in some cases as BFLV and AKOU keep proving) "nicer" AK variants.An out-of-the-box PSAK looks nicer hanging on the wall than an out-of-the-box WASR. And if that's what you care about that's fine: most normie shooters feel that way.You're not gonna win over AK autists with the same argument though.
>>42029494Some anon here was selling Vietnamese AKM hard cases ages ago and every day I beat myself up for not getting one
>>42027961Oh don't worry, I'm pretty disappointed in the rear trunnion as well. I just don't believe they're going to explode in the users hands and black his wife like is parroted in the general lately. Not until I see proof of course. That being said, I still haven't bought one because fuck being a guinea pig for that.
>>42029718Why would you buy one when there are better option for the same or less.
>>42024679Didnt Rob also have problems with the firing pin?
>>42028302If you have a Saiga now already, I'd say don't bother unless you're rounding out a collection. If you don't, try Armslist or pawn shops in your area for something around 700. If you can't find anything try to weasel them down to 800 or 775 because you're not guaranteed to find a 700-800 dollar saiga once they all truly dry up.
>>42029762Only other 7.62x39 Saiga in my area is in a pawnshop. It's also unconverted, has RAILZ all over the handguards, rust on the trunnions (lmao I think I'm the only person who'd stripped it since it got pawned), and they wanted $950 for it.That said it'd be my 5th AK and I only want it for the novelty of "muh Russian" and I'd chop the barrel (both are 20") put an AKM FSB and GB and some nice laminate. I'd consider trying to do a AK103 build with it but for the time abd effort to convert the rear trunnion I'd be better off either just buying an SLR107FR or doing a Khyber Pass kit build if that's how I wanted to go.
>>42029733But... I didn't buy one. I really don't have any intention of buying one.
>>42029738Look man, it's just as good, I'm telling you
>>42029824>Rusty trunnions, RAILZZ, unconverted>950 dollars foodUnfortunately, that's the fate of all saigas eventually. I'd say try to get them down to 800 for the non fucked one if you truly want a Russian rifle. I've got a partially converted boy and it runs the best excluding my VEPR or MAYBE my Arsenal. At any rate, if you don't like it you could wait a few years and either sell it for 1k+ or trade for some Gucci shit you actually want.
>>42015614What make is that handguard?
after soaking surplus stock in mineral spirit for a day, it still smells. does this mean it still have cosmoline in it?
>>42030520why would you soak wood in a liquid? Did you want to be sure you drove cosmoline deep into it where it would take ages for the solvent to dry and deposit cosmo in the grain?
>>42030520>Soaking wood in mineral spiritsJesus Christ
>>42030520lmfao you probably fuckin ruined that wood bud, especially if it's laminate.Mineral spirits remove cosmo from METAL.
>>42030520Probably smells because you just ruined it to hell and back. Great job champ. This is officially the dumbest shit I've seen in a minute
>>42030669>>42030900>>42030922can i wrap it in towels and sweat it out?
>>42028937Post the mag.
>>42031017Cosmo's the least of your concerns now, idiot. That wood's probably dryer than grandma's snatch. If it's laminate, you probably fucked the glue.
>>42031017Do you even know what cosmoline is? 100% serious question
>>42031017When I say>you probably fuckin ruined that wood budI don't mean>lol you're gonna have to refinish it now!I mean>You've compromised the molecular structure of that wood using caustic chemicals
>>42031017it'll dry eventually, who knows how long. You'll want to be sure it's pretty damn dry before putting a finish on it. Imagine filling a cup full of mineral spirits and setting it out to dry on its own, yeah going to take awhile
>>42031077The issue isn't that it's wet.It's that he soaked it for 24 hours in fucking turpentine, the chemical used to strip finish from wood and metal.Basically the fucking equivalent of leaving it exposed to sun and rain for 20 goddamn years.
How can I tell if the wood is fuck? I'll throw it up on eBay.
>>42031017I'm really curious as to how you think this would work, or what you think cosmoline is made ofI have a heavy suspicion you dont know the main ingredient is wax
>>42031126What a piece of shit
>>42024103Is Ivan a furry?
>>42031126plenty of techniques to remove cosmo from wood, soaking is kind of bad though. Best bet with cosmolined covered wood is to take a preservation approach, removing cosmo and maintaining finish.. ie no solvents. If you want to completely strip it down I'd use one of those thickened paint strippers so you don't have a ton of solvent making its way into the wood. Not fucking with wood too much is the best approach
>>42031283i cleaned mine a few weeks ago and used mineral spirits and a nylon brush and rags to just rub it onto the wood and loosen the cosmo
>>42029306>I wouldn't hold my breath about it being g2g after a full-auto conversion.Even if the there's no problems with trunnions/receiver I'm assuming it'll keyhole early like most American AKs but like I said I'm withholding judgement until I see results.
my first time shellacing surplus wood furnituredidnt thin it and its way too streaky, going to sand it down and give it another thin coat or just acetone it and re do the whole thing
>>42032119Don't do too many coats, I only did three and it turned out pretty good
>>42024103why is ivan a fucking furry fag cat?
>>42032119did you blend your own flakes? what weight did you use?
>>42032119Grab some scrap wood and practice, it'll save you a lot of frustration. Manually applying takes some finesse
>>42032330>>42031208>being this newWow
>>42032341no i bought amber shellac in a can, stripped my furniture as much as i could with acetone and put red mahogany stain on for like 20 seconds and wiped. i think i just need to redo it with thinned shellac and a foam brush instead of a tiny paint brush.
>>42032398Check the can to see what # cut the shellac is, I wouldn't recommend going lighter than #2. The foam brush works well, better than a brush in my opinion. If you need to clean up any runs denatured alcohol dissolves the shellac, use sparingly. When applying go one direction,make one pass. Dont let the foam brush run dry, but also try not to load it up.
>>42016204where you order from?Link?
Would surplus Romanian furniture fit on any non yugoslavian ak?Would it fit on wpb or psak?
>>42020135a little over $2k for most steel
>>42020135you could use the same logic to buy a real AK. For a few hundred more, merely $0.015 per round fired, that's right less than two pennies a round, you can own an AK that doesn't feel like you're tongue fucking a faggot every time you open your safe. Great value
>>42033189Yugo rifles need yugo furniture, everything else is standard.