Scamming MEPS edition>LYINGO ABOUT MEDICAL HISTORY = GOOD>LYINGO ABOUT CRIMINAL HISTORY = THEY KNOW>Do your own research to start, then come here for clarification.>No vague questions, like "What job is best?"https://pastebin.com/0K6MFcUZ (embed) (embed)Guides to prepare for high-speed shit. (SEAL, Ranger etc.)Resources:Armyranger.comFor Ranger info, obviously.http://www.sealswcc.com/SEAL/SWCC site with videos and fitness plans and a forumShadowspear.comAll around SOF website. Great info and run by former/active members of every SOF unit. Mentor program. Also has forums for international SOF.Professionalsoldiers.comFor all Army SF info.http://www.warriorcorpsman.com/For Navy Corpsman info.http://www.leatherneck.com/forums/showthread.php?115180-MARSOC-Force-ReconThis is an all-inclusive thread for MARSOC/Force Recon stuff.http://www.uscg.orgFor Coast Guard info. Good site, lots of vets able to answer questions.https://www.airwarriors.com/community/>Naval Aviator forum with info on Navy OCS as wellhttp://www.usarec.army.mil/hq/warrant/prerequ/woft.shtmlUS Army High school to Flight schoolBefore you ask a question, check the FAQ>http://pastebin.com/Rx0nDuga (embed) (embed)>Should I go Navy Enlisted Nuke?Maybe.http://i.imgur.com/FZ0Q9q4.png (embed) (embed)tl;dr: Long hard school, long work hours, with good job prospects. It's definitely not for everyone or even most people in general.CG info>https://www.gocoastguard.com/family-and-friends/the-helmsman/required-knowledgeASVAB for Dummyshttps://mega.nz/#!XuhSWQgb!ycwEyBz1J-DZx_GOsAxmSQCduAImNuzTRswqfRb-x-wREAD THIS BEFORE ASKING CLEARANCE QUESTIONShttps://www.opm.gov/forms/pdf_fill/SF86.pdf
You kids are gonna hate your life. Enjoy peacetime Israeli forgeign legion
So I'm debating to enlisted with the navy as an AO, EM, or ET. Should I enlist or finish my 2 year EE Ass. Degree? Also what's Aircraft carrier life like?
>>41732598blow it out ur ass nerd
>>41732680Finish the AA, so you can convert to OCS in the furure as an option. Also, the military will pay for you to get a 4 year.I did it the opposite way, and now I get to suffer at 26 as a pathetic E4 until I hit officer boards.
>>41732680ET is a good choice, school's long but ship life is pretty nice.
>>41732680Don't go AO unless you want to hang out with retards all day.
>>41732680>what's Aircraft carrier life like?Cramped and shitty.
Asking this again since it was at the end of the last thread. What can I do to maximize my chances of becoming an astronaut through the military? I plan on becoming an officer, so what jobs/degrees/skills would improve my chances and make me stand out in selection?
>>41734424Becoming a pilot would help
>>41732680>ordnanceGet that shit off your list unless you are a huge moron. ET is good though.>>41734424Pilot is the obvious one, also Space Operations Officer (Air Force). Jonny Kim was a SEAL.
Advice for getting recruiters to put in some effort to push me through? "Prior service" but I'd be going into any branch like a new recruit, so I'd count towards their quotas. Spoke to an AF recruiter months ago and she was confident in getting me enlisted, and even got me my dd214 and some documents, but I had to move states at the time. Spoke to another AF recruiter and he was equally as positive in getting me a waiver, etc. But he's on leave, and the other recruiter at that office isn't responding. Army recruiters where I am were enthusiastic, until one of them was like "we cant get a waiver for that, its non waiverable" except its 100% waiverable.
I'm going to get a call from a currently active navy nuke. What should I ask him?
>>41736697Start with "what are you wearing?" and feel it out from there.
Someone link previous thread plz
>>41734424Becoming a pilot, and from there a test pilot. Obviously jets are your first choice, but there’s even an astronaut at nasa that was a helicopter pilot. Look into the air national guard or whatever. You can apply straight into a fighter unit. Look up C.W. Lemoine on YouTube.
So how accurate are the practice tests they give you at the recruiting office? Because It predicted I scored over 100 on everything and I'm pretty sure I'm not that smart. My recruiter seemed impressed but Im not sure If he's just blowing smoke up my ass to encourage me to enlist sooner.
>>41737844Pretty accurate, I did even better on my actual ASVAB. If your worried like I was study your weak points like math or something. And make sure you study up if you have a specific job that requires a high score in a specific section. But overall it was easy as fuck.
>>41737940I'm going in for 91F and my GM score was 107 and you need a minimum of 93. I guess I feel pretty good but I never expecting to do that well.
Currently enlisted in the Air Force, eventually got diagnosed with Adjustive Disorder and talked about being sucidal but not sure if that was documented. Will any of this be an issue if I wanted to switch to the officer side to attempt to become a pilot since flying has been my dream since I was a kid.
the virgin enlistment the chad national service
>>41738997An air force pilot will likely have to deal with some shit. You're pathologically bad at dealing with shit. If it was up to me I wouldn't invest the massive amounts of cash it takes to train up a pilot into someone pathologically bad at dealing with shit unless I really didn't have much choice. In fact, being good at dealign with shit would be pretty high on my list of desirable characteristics here.But I'm not the guy who makes the decisions about it, so maybe the air force has other ideas.
Taking USMC/Officer questions for the next hour or so.
>>41738997How are you enlisted while also having adjustment disorder? Wouldnt that be something they only stick on people in basic when they're being discharged to weisel their way out of giving a real diagnosis?
>>41739117What's being a pilot like in the corps
>>41739526I got it while being in for like 9 months and asked to be kicked out but they wouldnt do it, so I've been in for over a year and a half now at a new base and it's like nothing ever happened.I knew the disorder was bullshit the second the inexperienced nurse told me she was diagnosing me with it, the real doctor diagnosed me with Major Depressive Disorder and Mild anxiety but kept it off the records which is how I'm still in.
>>41736697Ask him if he is qualified Engineering Watch Supervisor.If he says no, ask him why not. If he gives a reason other than not wanting to work harder, hang up on him.
If i go army aviation will i get stuck as a glorified warehouse worker/jiffy lube employee
>>41739597It’s pretty dumb. You spend more time on the ground doing staff work than flying or supporting flying missions. If you want to fly, go Army.
>>41735810What's your RE code for?
>>41739980This. I'm not mechanically inclined and dont have any interest in turning wrenches, but I do have interest in being a crew chief and the post army shit helps.
I graduate college and have been working in a warehouse for a year despite having a STEM degree.I'm depressed and suicide is seeming like an increasingly good idea, I possess no social skills. Should I join the military to get some kind of purpose in life? I don't even really like the military or what they're doing.Am I even eligible to join after posting this?
>>41738997Never go to mental health, you of all people should know that boy
>>41740160>stem degreewhy u in a warehouse nigga? join the navy. be an officer. you'll fit right in, especially with the depression and repressed trap tendencies.>but muh meaning of lifeSip some coffee and meditate on supersonic Chinese anti-ship missiles concealed in container ships. You'll snap out of it, I promise.
Anyone here do/doing the NUPOC program? Recruiters need not respond.
>>41732054I hate my roommates so much I'm just waiting for them to say some shit against gays or nogs so I can blue falcon them to death since they're super anal about that in my unit.
>>41740354yeah I knew better, getting any health problems documented just cuts you off from future oppurtunies and I definitely fucked myself over from being able to have even a slight hope of being a military pilot
>>41740720I doubt youll get your commander to sign you off for OTS
>>41740807Nah the commander isnt the problem, he has no idea about any of this considering it all happened when I was at another base + it was a different service branch running things there. The only roadblock is whether or not Air Force medical has anything documented about any of this
>>41739656Well, good job partially dodging a bullet. Hang in there
>>41740160Yeah you should join. You'll be glad you did. Pick a branch
>>41740891Well you'll need a 422 and a derogatory information check. If anything is there thats when it will show.
>Be me>Try to enlist as a CTN, but the docs at MEPS measured eyes as not being correctable to 20/20. >Disqualified for CTN. >Take eye exam from based doctor and equipment from this century. Eyes are actually correctable to 20/20>Bring documentation from two different eye exams with the perscription needed for me to be 20/20>MEPS doesnt give a shit and don't even give me a chance to retest with better equipment. Mind you there is another military facility right next to me with actual equipment>recruiter wont talk to me because only want to be a CTN. MEPS tells me to fuck off unless I sign as a nukeWTF do I do now?
I knew a guy who got rejected from the police force for talking about marijuana on his social media PMs. How much does the military care about this?
>>41740971idk but ctn is a gold rate and very unique. i find it weird that there are jobs you can do with shitty vision and CTN isn't one of them, since CTNs are paleskins working with computers all the time.you could start by not using gay ass reddit spacing, then maybe go talk to a different recruiter. don't even explain the situation at first. it'd be even better if you could finaggle going to another meps facility.not sure if your recruiter would have anything on you already. as far as i've ever known they don't have a central database for potential recruits and the meps documents back in 2010 and 2011 were local to that meps station for health stuff. things can change though.all in all worst case if you are dead set on CTN (which is a great rate, really) then try your luck with another recruiter.
>>41740971oh hey I failed out of the Air Force equivalent of CTN during the navy portion of the course(JCAC).I have terrible vision and have no idea why you'd need good vision to do that job.
>>41740986>rejected from police>for private messagesthen they weren't private messages. your bud is probably full of shit and posted about it online.the military doesn't check social media by default but will for a background investigation, in which case you shouldn't have that shit on there because it just looks bad. a lot of reputable businesses will check social media so try not to talk about illegal/degenerate things on there.
>>41741016now that i think about it, there's no fucking way meps have a central database they can query for your medical records. when i PCS'd in the military i had to go make sure my own medical records were sent off as part of the checklist and it was a brown folder with all my shit, which I had to also bring to a records office when I got out so they could archive it.medical records in the US are a sacred thing and are a huge clusterfuck as far as record keeping so you're probably good at another meps facility but that requires going to an office potentially far away.
>>41741016When I tried another recruiter he just told me to screw off too. I wonder if I was secretly jotted down for something because no matter who I contact everyone seems to have some kind of hate boner for me.
Whats up guys, it‘s your friendly neighborhood Air Force DLI-Chinese student. Some of you may remember me. I graduated BMT about 2 months ago, so if anyone has questions about Air Force basic, life at DLI/Monterey, being a Chinese student or whatever, hit me up. I asked this a few months ago but I'll ask again. Some of my Navy classmates said that Navy doesn't care if their people have ADD/ADHD, but I was led to believe that (at least for Air Force), if you had that shit on your record, you'd get shitcanned in a heartbeat. So my question is, does anyone know the policy about having ADD and being in the Air Force? Must be nice for those fuckers if it's true and Navy can study Chinese while on Adderall.
>>41741092maybe you've got an insufferable personality?for navy recruiters, they dont like people saying their rate normally, at least from talking to sailors when i was a boot and how they ended up in the job.the way the navy works is at meps the liaison gives you a list of rates available that you qualify for and you pick one then and there. now you can say you don't like those and leave, then go back to pick a rate later, but obviously recruiters hate that shit.if the navy really just doesn't work out you can try army 17C or 35Q. though 35Q may not be getting all the love as 17C these days. it's the army version of CTN and you can walk into army offices saying you want a specific MOS and they don't mind. makes their job easier, in fact.
>>41740118RE-3P Condition, not disability. Enuresis, aka pissing myself. After table 1 and 2 and all the field shit in USMC boot I had a fucking horrible UTI with blood in my piss and everything. I go to medical, and I get "it's all in your head anon surely itll stop eventually", and my answer to that is "no, there's blood. In my piss. I don't want to keep fucking pissing my pants can you test me or figure out what the fuck is wrong? Or do something to fix it" "Sure" the doc in Pendleton decides I go to MRP, then I get back to MCRD and the seaman doc decides "MRP isn't right for this. ELS, enuresis."Got all my testing done, and my letters deeming me fit for duty with no fucking enuresis. Did not have enuresis as a kid, or at any point in life. Labs done, ultrasounds of bladder, etc. Army recruiters were like "man, they fucked you. Good old Marine Corps"
>>41741027My friend had to give access to all his PMs upon applying to the police force. Or maybe it was his Facebook account, which they could then access his PMs through. He was actually a close friend of a friends. I figure the military would check this too, to make sure you're not a terrorist or something.
>>41741170>My friend had to give access to all his PMs upon applying to the police forcewhat kind of fucked up shit is this?this is beyond even federal hiring requirements and sounds illegal.you are not required to provide ANY account credentials to ANY entity when joining the military even at the upper echelon of spoopy (That I know of).that police force is fucked up and you shouldn't even work for them. It's like saying they need to do a walkthrough of your home when you're not around so to give you the keys.also to let them make a copy of your phone so they can conduct forensics and make sure you're not doing illegal shit.simply not ok. im going to go ahead and tell anyone reading this post to NEVER give anyone your account credentials for a job and if they ask that, ask to talk to HR about it because that's your personal life they're digging into. social media is very personal to most people.better yet though, don't even have those accounts to begin with
>>41741197oh i guess i will add, that at the higher end of spoopy they will ask you to give a list of all of your social media accounts you have but it's like"list all of the social media accounts you use and the username for them" and they use this to go take a look at what's publicly visible, what you post, who you talk to, who your friends are, etc.it's really just to see if you're a vulnerability and if say you had a discord account, they couldn't read your chats or anything.but also fuck discord btw, it's not safe to use if you care about privacy at all
Anyone still lurking? I'm looking to become a grunt but want to know all of what i'm signing up for. Don't have much to leave behind. Looking to gain some purpose.
>>41741481or just join a better branch...
Anyone familiar with the Coast Guard E2 classifications? There's Seaman, Airman and Fireman. If anyone is familiar please break it down to me. I'm assuming there's not much of a choice in which I get and I'm pretty much open to whatever. I don't really know what I want and I hear the Coast Guard is amazing for that. I just want a general idea about what I'm doing with these jobs.
Which job in the entirety of the military is the most “welfare”-esque? I want to be able to sit and study Russian or read all day.
>>41741806how about you go fuck yourself you wanna be nigger
>>41741860One can not have sex, one can participate in it, but never own it. Unless of course said individual has the rights to a pornography, in this instance we can say the individual "has sex".
>>41741875NIGGER THOSE FUCKING EARPLUGS ARE THE LEAST OF MY FUCKING WORRIESI WANT MY FUCKING KNEE BACK, BUT IT'S SPLATTERED ALL OVER A FUCKING HUMVEE SOMEWHERE
>>41741992I want to laugh at this but, okay I’m laughing lol
>>41741571Airmen dont really exist anymore. You're either a seaman recruit or a fireman recruit out of boot camp. You get to say what you want but I've heard that everyone wants seaman so some people who ask for seaman get put as a fireman.Fireman works below the deck, seaman works above the deck. So it depends on if you want to be changing oil or painting a ship.If you're lucky you can be stationed at an air station. This is where airmen used to go in the past but I'm not sure how they work it out now. Air stations are for pussies though.As an aside, does anyone here have experience with ATON in the coast guard? Its recently piqued my interest
>>41742180What's wrong with air stations? Are you just fixing helicopters and shit for the AMT/AET guys?
>>41741875Aren't those scams like those mesothelioma ads?
>>41742266Sort of, basically they try to get as many people as possible say they were affected by this product to try and get a huge payout but then when you have 100,000 people claim they were affected and only 5 million is payed out the lawyers take like half of it and the rest is split up. Typically I've heard of people getting like 5 fucking dollars in the mail out of a multi-million dollar lawsuit.
am i able to use personal firearm and camo on a combat deployment?
I'm having some minor pain on my tail bone. I do situps, pushups and pullups but I'm in pain while sitting and can feel it. What the fuck is this? I always have a pillow when I'm doing situps.
Can I join if I involuntarily do that this a lot? Am I better off the NG/Reserves? I want to shoot for active though. Will they pardon my autism?
>>41742634what do you mean? you cry a lot?
>>41742664No like in pic related. I do that and it's just a thing I do without really thinking about it. Maybe I'm retarded or something. It's caused for me in relationships with people and stuff, so I was wondering if it'd a problem if I wanted to join the military.
>>41742698you got tourettes or somethin?idk how it'd impact your joining. just go for it and find out.
>>41742709Fuck... how did I never think of that. I don't yell the n word or anything though.
>>41742714it's not just verbal. in fact verbal is far less common.just go to a recruiter and find out the hard way. maybe it wont be an issue at all.
>>41742724Thanks I'll give it a shot
Does anyone know how big the tech school dorms at Keesler are? Not sure if I should ship my desktop over or buy a cool laptop.
I was a fast boat submariner. If you have any questions go ahead.P.S Don’t do it
Is there any way to join the us military as a Canadian? Do they have any patriation programs or anything?
Posting again since last time I was ignored. I'd really appreciate a response if possible. I used to be in amazing physical shape, preparing for enlistment as a high school kid. Then i fell into a depression, met a girl, moved away, and now that all thats collapsed im back home looking to enlist again. Im wondering how much time I should dedicate to training prior to going to a recruiter. Im definitely not ready for 18x at this moment and yet the pressure to begin the process and get out of my parents house is killing me. One part of my mind says I will have all of basic training to push myself as well as years of prior training and muscle memory to prepare, and I should begin the process ASAP for further motivation as well as the feeling that im advancing in life. Another part of me says I only have one shot at this and should attain a 270 APFT before even going to a recruiter. Thank you for your time.
Hey just wanting some encouragement. Went to my first RSP drill about a month ago and did PT and all that after never exercising in my life. I puked a bunch and it kicked my ass. Frankly i loved getting my ass kicked but felt bad cause i slowed my squad down. I'm 30 and they were all 18 yo athletes . Since then i've been exercising using pushup situp and running apps and am feeling a bit better tho nowhere near where i wish i was. I ship in september and am not too confident that I'm not gonna be the DI's project and focus, which i hear sucks mondo dick.Basically just wondering if there's anyone here that went through basic and all that stuff that wasn't a PT stud. Anyone get particularly targeted for being out of shape? What was it like? Master sargeant said if our scores weren't better by next drill (one week from today) then he'd smoke the fuck out of us. Think I'll do better than last time, but am not too confident.
>>41744305Basically i guess i'm just curious what's it like being a fuckup in the military, or below standard, trying to improve, but below standard.
>>41744294>met a girl>now that all fell apartWhat a surprise
>>41744294You should be looking to pass the OPAT before talking to your recruiter. If you really want to, complete the RASP prep 12 week workout program. But honestly if you played any sports in high school most of the initial physical stuff is a joke.
hows life as an infantry officer? Everyone says that being in the infantry as enlisted in current times is ass cancer, but what about being an officer?Im debating between that, or intel but I know intel officer spots are rare. Im looking for more combat arms related jobs so I can get the soldier out of me before I settle in to the civilian world again. My recruiter said something about branch transferring being a thing in my first year where I may get moved from one MOS to another so I could potentially try both infantry and intel in one year. How likely is that and do I have any say in the transfer, or is it more along the lines of a spot opens and they shuffle me into it without my say?
>>41739117is all the marine hype worth it? everyone I speak to about joining the marines, including former marines, say the marines are run soley on hype. Be a devil dog, kill people, be a badass, dont be a pussy like the other branches cause we're muh-reens, ectwhen in reality theyre underfunded, smaller, less recognized and overall shittier then even the shitty branches like the big army or navy, cause at least they get some decent funding and have opportunity to advance your career.whats your take on all that?
>>41738997Just say you were rambling and mever say suicidal thoughts ever. Do you not want your gi bill? Theres no fucking way you would even make pilot if you are falling out of your daily chores in the air force.
>>41744305>>41744316>>41744355After a while you'll be noticed. You have to understand that their end goal is to help you. They might find an excuse to smoke you, like you weren't moving fast enough or you fucked up your rack or you were walking past them. None of that shit matters, and it's not personal, so don't take it to heart. They're looking for any excuse to beef you up with IT, and when you finally get better they'll back off. I saw this happened to a ton of people in boot, and personally, when I was ELS'd, my Senior DI completely dropped the facade and said "shit, you don't deserve it. All the fuck ups we have to IT to get fit, but medical snatched you up?"TL;DRThey'll notice. Do what they say. It's fine.>>41744398Not worth it in the long run. Shitty quality of life in general, compared to the other branches. Pompous attitude comes from being able to say you're surviving the suck every day. But it's up to you if you value those bragging rights or not. You're giving up a lot to have them.
>>41744398Not that guy. A lot of its true, it has a lot of contract issues, signing bonuses are also more sparse.Ultimatly you still have access to ta, fasfa, and eventually youll get your deployment and SDA if you stick around long enough. Theres also small details that are nice, such as POGS having MAI, MCWIS, rifle quals, pistol quals, and a lot more actual military stuff than pogs from other branches. If you are fluent enough and on top of your game, you can demand stuff like SERE as a re enlistment bonus, although its usually very hard to get.Theres also a slightly less cringey enviroment due to having less PC shit than other branches, but theres a crackdown on that unfortunatly.If you want the path of least resistance then go coast guard/usaf for earlier BAH, but if you want to be a grunt then rolling straight o3x is fine. You can attempt scout sniper indoc or recon in your first four.
>>41744363I can pass the OPAT right now. I just feel weak compared to my former self and im definitely too weak to pass SFAS. I guess what im wondering is, can a person with an athletic background that goes to a recruiter passing the OPAT but not being a stud get whipped into shape before basic? Im afraid of not taking enough time beforehand and regretting it forever. Then again, im afraid of any time I spend living here as well. >>41744362Im not going to make the same mistake again. Getting invested in another human being is a really good way to fuck your shit up.
>>41744620meant to say get whipped into shape by basic
>>41744620I think you can keep retaking SFAS if you keep failing (?). Just do 12 miles, blots, 50 pounds of sandbags in backpack, 3 hours MINIMUM training along with sleep deprivation exposure and cardio to boot.
>>41740160It's a great idea, be sure to tell the MEPS doctors about your depression and suicidal thoughts so that they can tell the drill instructors to go easier on you.
Scored a 127 on the DLAB. Have a 96 ASVAB. Is cryptologic linguist a good MOS in the Air Force?
>>41740371Im in a similar position. slightly torn between AF OTS and Army Warrant Officer flight schoolProbably heading in the AF direction for the money/prestige/standard of living. Also because Army WO flight school is open to people as old as 34 (confirm? Thats what I've read).I'd love to be a fixed wing pilot. I know my chances are slim, but I'm going to work my ass off.
>>41744720Meant to reply to>>41740160
>>41744720And if i end up with a non-pilot rated position and stay in for 6-8 years, I'll still be young enough for some Army Air Cav action
>>41744715Do airborne linguist or whatever it's called
>>41739117I’m deciding whether I wanna go Marines or Army OCS, but what’s really pushing me towards Marines is the fact that”Every Marine is a Rifleman”. What is the combat training for Marine Corps officers like? Do you actually learn small unit tactics and all that or just get qualified to shoot a rifle?
>>41734424Everyone else is right, but on the Navy side we also have NFOs that can end up being astronauts, and the most likely branch for a civilian to end up being a pilot (excluding Army's WOFT program) is the Navy, so if you apply and they end up selecting you for NFO, you're not out of the game.>t. SNFO who isn't salty at all about not being picked for SNA
>>41744367If infantry are unruly toddlers, infantry officer is the underpaid 13 year old babysitter that is in way over their headsIf you go infantry anything, chart a path towards Rangers or you're just wasting your time
>>41744827>Every Marine is a RiflemanSince you're dumb enough to fall for such obvious koolaid, you should definitely join the mareens.
>>41741092Probably because you're job-locked which is the most annoying thing for recruiters to deal with. Have you been telling them up front that you will only accept CTN? Because you should probably cut that shit out
>>41744827>every Marine a riflemanlol
>>41741094Hey I'm shipping out soon for Air Force linguist, was just wondering if it's true that if you score >90 on the PT test that you don't have to attend mandatory PT sessions. I heard something to that effect.How are you finding DLI for Chinese overall? I've alternately heard that it's the hardest shit ever and that it's really not so bad if you don't dick around.
>>41744827Memes aside, a lot of the Marine Corps issues arent as bad for Officers. With just over half of commissioned candidates passing marsoc selection, that puts it in line with being a ranger officer. Theres also the scout sniper unit leader course (ssulc) that you can ask your officer recruit about.As for pog officers, its 90% based on luck and timing regardless of branch. For instance I know some USAF intel officers that went to SERE whereas some USMC officers just do their MOS while going on deployments.The constant factor is that Army and Marine Corps will have slightly more oppurtunities for deployment/courses and inferior accomodations. The rest is like I said, based on luck and needs of the DoD (timing)
how do I get good at pullups. been following the Marine program and it feels like treading water. currently at 11 reps, hoping to get to 18 by augustis the only way to lose weight?
>>41745409How true this?
>>41744687are you even enlisted? this is such a gay post.
>>41745344see your pic related?once you plateau you do that. start with 10lbs or 15lbs.do your pullups like that until failure or try for a smaller pyramid than the norm, and then after your next rest period do a max set w/o the weight. you'll get at least 1 more after just 1 week of it, most likely.
>>41745502Would it work to just alternate between weighted and nonweighted throughout the week?
>Male grows up in a stable environment with both parents and a father who teaches the value of hardwork. Decides to join the militaryBecomes a commissioned military officer>Male grows up in an unstable environment, with either biological parents in a hostile relationship, were raised by a single mother, or raised in a foster home. Decides to join the military (for the "direction" or as an escape)Becomes an enlistedfag.>Woman was raped as a child or "raped" in collegeBecomes an enlistedfagWhy is this?
>>41739526>How are you enlistedThe air force isn't exactly good at filtering mental cases. Its why so many airfags are prone to depressive episodes and threatening suicide all the time.
>>41745605do weighted until you can't, then do unweighted. im no fitness expert but that's what i did to build up and it worked like a charm.
>>41745654because shitty families don't lead to kids getting an education the vast majority of the time and the military is a way for the kid to get out of that situation.ask me how i know
Which 35x has the best job prospects after contract? Also is MEPS always run like shit or is it just bad luck?
>>41744827Let me ask you one questionIf "every Marine is a rifleman", who exactly are you going to shoot?
>>41745478Im a pog and I suck ass at teaching others to exercise. If you have a great workout regiment for easing into ruck runs post it, otherwise lick my nuts.
>>41746421himself when his fat gf leaves him
>>41746493Hey calm down man, he wants to be an officer, so he gets to avoid the pork and go straight to the wooks and strippers
If you aren't going Navy CTN, Army 17C, AF fusion analyst, or whatever the fuck marines do for cyber, you're the big dumb
>>41745344Run 3 miles to lose weight. Try to get 21 minutes.Getting 20 pullups is easy. Just increase daily reps. Make sure your form is good and wide.
>>41745654That's just the way it is. My hopes are that one day, if I am blessed with a son, that I can provide him with what he needs to become more successful than me.
>>41746656What if you have those door frame ones that don't allow you to do the wide form? Does that make pullups a lot more easier and thus not as helpful?
>>41745654Commissioning takes a long time and quite a bit of support. People in unstable or hostile situations can't spare the time it takes to go through the process.
>>41746682Wide form is so that you also build back muscle, so that ur less likely to perform like shit if one of your muscles is kia for whatever reason during your pft. Just do wide as you pragmatically can on your door frame.
>>41746750>can't spare the timeYou are an adult, not a child living in another adult's house. Have fun blaming your dogshit childhood for all of you garbage life choices.If you wanted something, you would be putting in the effort right now instead of pointing the finger.
>>41747107>t. Never had a real life issue before.
>>41747107Are you specifically speaking to me? I had an average childhood, went to a local university, and commissioned, so I'm not entirely sure what part of my post implied that I was "blaming" my "dogshit childhood" for all of my apparently "garbage life choices". I've talked with more than a few enlisted with degrees, and the common circumstance involved a lack of time. They were either living at home and letting their lives waste away, grew up in a rough household in a rural area and couldn't see any other way out, or they were broke and facing homelessness. I'm not sure why this situation so deeply irritates you, but most people suffer in life and are driven to sub-optimal decisions based upon immediately hazardous circumstances. They made a call that none of them regret, but most do still wish they could have commissioned and are actively at the top of their game so that they can go to OCS with a good looking stack of ribbons. So, tell me, what's your story and what has you so pissed off that life ain't so great for people you've never met?
>>41747254let it go. He's probably young from a generic middle-class or UMC background, and has never experienced external influence screwing over his Randian free will fetish.
>>41747294I've never been able to hook those sorts of detractors before, and I suspect I won't hear from that one either, but I sincerely would like to hear what grievances those sorts of people have against degree holding enlisted. It definitely doesn't come around from working with them, because the most competent juniors I've had the pleasure of working with were all college graduates that are working their hardest. Plus, how would a civilian even develop a negative opinion about these guys and girls? Or does it just come from the same mindset that encourages that one "zogbot" dude that slithers in here every few days?
Oldfaggots (if you are closer to 30 than 20) that are E-5 and below: Whats the difference between you and pic related?
>>41747390can't wear earrings anymore, but i did get my shaving waiver lol
I bite my nails. Will that be a problem? I dont do it because im nervous, i do it to remove excess nail. Im just wondering if anybody will give me shit about the unevenness of them.
>>41747390We play mmo pvp/rts instead of fortnite.
>>41747408I mean youll get slain more for shit bearing, and youll puke from the germs from being in a squad bay with 90 other extremely stressed men during the summer, but its not a life or death issue.Most of the qualifications are designed to be passable by people who are injured.
>>41747407>ever wearing earrings at all for any reason
>>41742724>>41742800dont bother youll waste your time
>>41744294If you want to try for a selection at some point keep in mind that every job has its own workday length. Just factor that in to plans to train. Good luck
>>41744494>Not worth it in the long run.This is what my own research showed me. People often say its harder to move up in the marines, and there are less opportunities for schools/ training when compared to the Army, which has a much larger budget.
active duty marine here, wanted to know how Navy Seabees is like, reserves and active duty and how likely they are to get a middle east deployment
>>41744827Grunts and some intel guys will learn tactics beyond what they teach during entry level training. Not everybody is a rifleman, don’t let the recruiter lie to you. It’s still very rewarding once you get past all the rah rah bullshit and politics of it all.Also, taking any USMC/officer questions for the next few hours.
I want this to be me. I want to be in formation to have this feeling of order and closeness with comrades. I want to march to the drum and stay in step. Is there anything in the us army that will give me this sort of feeling?
>>41748562>Is there anything in the us army that will give me this sort of feeling?Yeah, marching will feel like marching.
>>41746544what if you did try Air Force fusion analyst but failed?The Alpha shredout is the hard one, Bravo would've been easy if I had gotten that. If I failed the school just a few months earlier I wouldve been reclassed into the Bravo version but they stopped doing that after they thought people were failing on purpose
Wanna be a drone operator in the army.Is it worth it? Will I just be a glorified gamer?
I’m over 23 so my recruiter told me they would do a financial background check. I know that I have a charged off $7k debt. What do? Will this hurt my chances?
>>41739117are you from connecticut?
>>41741017>i failed jcacAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA>>4174111435Q is dead, go 17C but really dont do either because the army is shit>>41741806cav scout>>41742634theres a lot of autists and straightup retards in the army, youll feel right at home>>4174594335-series is trash, not even meming. 35S are some of the dumbest fuckers i have ever met, not in a good way at all. 17C is a better alternative if you arent a mouthbreather
>>41748678You should be fine as long as you have demonstrated a capability or plan to pay it off.
>>41746451i dont tell people how to build up to sfas but i dont tell tell people to practice sleep deprivation training and hiking with sand in a backpack either. because people will injure themselves.either ruck properly or don't at all.normal people can't train sleep deprivation and shouldn't because they have lives to live and shit to do. no need to fuck up your routine and possibly turn mundane tasks dangerous just because you'll be deprived in training.
fuck dudes my face was fucked and i didnt know why/still dont know but i feel like its bruxism (jaw clenching). Weirdly enough only my right jaw is affected. It looks similarly to this. Loying good?
>>41748781>everyone is an autist and must enjoy working with computers or they have no future
>>41748836Follow-up question: the company isn't allowing any payments other than balance in full due to it being charged off. I don't have 7k to do that. How would I go about demonstrating capability or plan to pay it off?
>>41748960well fuck me bro join as a SIGINTer, hope you like cheap office furniture and manchildren
>>41748181Serious question: Will I be hazed if I join the Marines as a gay (but not flaming homo) man?
>>41732054I need your help boys. Got my ASVAB back. 88 with a GT of 118. Going national guard for my state. Was going to go MP but was told this could hurt my chances of joining the PD. Took the NTN for the PD and if all goes well I should go to academy in spring. Mean while I'm joining the guard but if MP will hurt me idk what to do. My state has flight school and I would love to fly a choppa. Buddies say I can join and learn to fly EZ but my recruiter says I need 6 years of service and everyone is telling me that is bullshit. Is that true? Also my bf is a Sargent in the next state over for the army. Should I never mention this? Thanks for the help
Are Navy Chiefs held to a higher standard than the senior enlisted of the USMC/Army/Air Force?>"In the United States Navy -- and only in the United States Navy -- the rank of E7 carries with it unique responsibilities and privileges you are now bound to observe and expected to fulfill. Your entire way of life is now changed. More will be expected of you; more will be demanded of you. Not because you are a E7 but because you are now a Chief Petty Officer. You have not merely been promoted one pay grade, you have joined an exclusive fellowship and, as in all fellowships, you have a special responsibility to your comrades, even as they have a special responsibility to you. This is why we in the United States Navy may maintain with pride our feelings of accomplishment once we have attained the position of Chief Petty Officer."What makes them superior to the other branch's E-7s and above? Higher quality control?
>>41749140You Read: >>41748522
>>41749183I highly doubt that spec ops dudes represent the average Marine
I few years ago I got rejected from the military for a sealed record I got from when I was a teenager. I was surprised they were even able to find it because it was supposedly expunged but they did anyways. Can anyone who knows about this stuff explain why they can find that and if anyone else can? I'm actually employed by local government now and I had to pass one of their federal background checks at the police station with fingerprints and nothing came up.
>>41749183That sounds like hazing for not being gay instead of hazing for being gay.
>>41741094I’m an airborne linguist, currently doing aircrew fundies. Can you give me a rundown on life at dli, like how the phases works, dorms, dfac, typical day etc?
>>41749176>higher quality controllmaoSo okay, E 7-9's are literally THE main source of personnel problems in the Navy right now. They are the reason the saying "Shit floats" is used so frequently. They are not held to a higher standard, but instead given an excessive amount of lee-way due to old naval tradition. They bully junior officers into submission and silence while straight up abusing junior sailors and petty officers. They fuck EVERYTHING up and get paid pretty damn good while doing it. Sure, some guys like that MC in your picture are demi-god tier, but most chiefs are fat, lazy, and should just leave so they can sit comfortably in some mid-level corporate job where they belong. I'd argue that PO2's and 1's do what Chiefs are supposed to do, but even those ranks have some real shitbags
>>41749007They’ll take a smaller payment. Nearly all companies will take $2500 now rather than wait for $7000 later, even with interest.
>>41749140Probably, but it depends if your MOS and how good you are at sticking up for yourself.
>>41749252How the fuck do you get bullied by a chief as an officer? Was Boats starring Russell Crowe a documentary or some shit?
how do i join the space force and become master chief litealso i am leaf
>>41747709The only branch that will give you shit for not being in the USMC is the USMC
>>41748939No one even knows what the fuck the problem is because we can't tell anything's wrong. Loying = Good
>>41749280What's your rate? The black shoe ensigns almost universally get treated like disobedient children if they aren't mustangs. Hell, I once saw an ensign stand watch for 36 fucking hours because one of the chiefs "hated his dumb face" and actively rerouted his relief. I've been in the room when a senior chief told an ensign to "shut the fuck up" when he was asking questions, though most of the time it was passive-aggressive talk or just straight up ignoring what the ensign said. I get that these guys are new, but when chiefs talk about SWOs being untrained, I'm not entirely sure how the fuck they expect them to learn like that.
>>41749213What's the sealed record, anon
>>41742180>does anyone here have experience with ATON in the coast guard?Yea. It is fucking sweet. Black hull 4 lyfe.
>it's a "west point cadet screams at e7 for not saluting him outside the dfac" episode
>>41749213expunged means literally nothing>>41749176its the navys first big boy rank. For the other services it happens earlier (E5) so its a bigger deal for the navy.>>41749360that would be extremely painful
>>41749176If Navy chiefs were so effective why did the USS John McCain and USS Fitzgerald situations occur? Solving problems at the lowest level are what they are there for, right? E-7s and above could have corrected their E-6s and belows training issues, equipment issues, disciplinary issues (see the urine situation)What were those amazing Navy chiefs up to?
>>41749403Obviously the workout gear and piss bottles were there because of the intense operational tempo that we have maintained since 2001 and must continue to do so forever. Sailors were SO busy working on defending the seas from terrorists that they couldn't afford to waste time away from their stations to hit the head or pump their big juicy muscles. These men and women swore an oath to serve, and must serve 24/7 until they retire. HOOYAH!
>>41749176After having been on a Navy base for 6 months, can confirm Navy Chiefs are a fucking joke and their chief culture is retarded. Retired navy chiefs are also fucking miserable to speak to for the most part but that goes for every branches retired sncos
if i work for a legal weed company and tell the recruiter ive never smoked will i get problems
>>41749535Weird question but I live in FL and weed will probably be legalized after 2020 because its on the ballot. Should I try to get into the industry when it starts in Florida and what would you recommend?
>>41749535>>41749551No and No! Marijuana is federally illegal, the military and any federal government agency will deny you if you work for a weed company, legal or not. I received an offer to work for a dispensary while I was in DEP and my recruiter nearly shat his pants when I told him that I was accepted for the job. Don't do it until you get out of the service.
>>41749551If you have connections in politics or money then yes get into CBD and edibles and shit like that because the farming market will blow up then collapse immediately. Same goes for owning dispensaries. as far as just working for one, that depends on the company.
>>41749598so i can't join if i've worked for one
>>41749611You're going to have to talk with your recruiter, but be prepared to be told no. I really hope you still can, dude
>>41749603>get into CBD and edibles and shit like that because the farming market will blow up then collapse immediately. Same goes for owning dispensariesElaborate on this? Also for the record I'm just curious about the weed I'm not enlisting so no legal issues
>>41747644Too late pal. I spoke to a recruiter today and he said I can join if I follow his advice. Have an appointment at the office next week.
>>41749176the only thing exceptional about navy chiefs is that it's the biggest fucking boys club on the enlisted side of things. no one else comes close to their entitlement or faggotry due to their rank.for sailors, hitting chief is like a whole new land of privilege, whereas everyone else just gets a new rocker on their rank and can yell at more people.though i've met plenty of cool chiefs, lots of them are also fat fucks who got chief by reenlisting until it happened.
>>41749656there will be a lot of weed growers and a lot of dispensaries popping up as soon as it gets legalized, then within 2 years they will all go bankrupt due to inflation (assuming by 2020 companies from already legal states don't have a grip on the markets nationwide). This has happened in every legal state i believe however there is a huge demand for things like cbd balms, creams, infused edibles and vape cartridges etc. Anything creative or innovative whether it's edibles that are scientifically designed to kick in faster or cbd creams with other natural medicine in it, stuff like that becomes in demand. Anyway there will be a shit ton of red tape and lots of sleazy fucks probably in bed with corrupt politicians getting involved, it's a treacherous industry and super messy and most the people who are making big money are a select few.
>>41749713you won't make tweaking freak
>>41749934What's with the influx of tweakers on 4chan and on the internet in general? They never used to be this prominent. Is the government putting something in the water again?
>>41749990ive got the feeling its the same 2 or 3 social rejects begging for attention. just ignore them and theyll fuck off after they get disqualified
Is going USAF aircrew worth it? I understand that it involves a lot of training, but is it ultimately too much bullshit to deal with than it's worth?
>>41748562>DRILL, Kammeraderie and Dicipline. Go Marine Corps faggot. It's literally what we pride ourselves in. But based on your content you might get upset when your Senior Drill Instructor Staff Sergeant Daquan is a dark green marine. Personally I didn't care, my drill instructor looked like Sergeant Johnson. Be prepared to hate your fucking life for 3-4 months. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ns2FkZNTC0
>>41750234>what we pride ourselves inyeah except 99.9999999% of the population hates that shit and drill is only a huge deal during boot. thank god.but yeah we still somehow do more marching and formations than anyone else after that so you're probably right, it's for him.
>>41749145Please help. Any cops or recruiters here?
>>41750275your post is hard to follow and very niche.if you're already in the process of becoming a cop then i doubt joining the guard as an MP will have any impact.though being able to join a PD and learning to fly a chopper "ez" sounds like some real fucking bullshit to me but i really have no idea and i don't know what your recruiter is referencing with the 6 year bit.you're not going to join as an MP and fly choppers, that's for sure, especially in a guard unit.
>>41750296It's a long ass process to join the police force here. Was told every little bit helps so I'm joining the guard. Background shit takes months so I was told to go ahead and join the guard in the mean time. But I have been hearing mixed things about choosing MP as my MOS. Was told civilian police hate it because they have to untrain all the military law stuff. idk if this is true or not. If it is I need to choose a different MOS. So either flight school or maybe 35F. Also do I want to mention my bf is an army NCO or would this cause me a ton of trouble?
Ay, sorry just got some free time so might be late but hopefully I can still help>>41749241DLI life is pretty relaxed, especially for the Air Force, I think they know that classes are extremely stressful so overall the Air Force kinda lets people get away with a lot more here. You'll be Phase 1, so restricted to base (including on the weekend), no going off-post besides if you volunteer or other extraneous circumstances, basically always have to be in uniform if you're outside. To phase up to Phase 2, you have to have been Phase 1 for 30 days. Your MTL will normally give you a basic test and you'll get phase 2. Since you're airborne, you'll most likely get here and only spend about a week in Phase 1 since you spend phase 1 time in fundies. "Typical" day depends. Once you first get here, you go through regular inpro for 2 weeks, so you'll have briefings from like 7am-3pm they'll tell you not to rape people or shoot yourself, you sign a bunch of shit, and then you're free for the rest of the day.After that, if you're classes haven't started yet, you'll get sent to details, where you just sit around and waste time from 8am-3pm, sometimes they'll tell you to clean shit. DFAC is nice, fast, crowded, the hours are pretty much perfect for schedule. Dorms are ight, expect to have a roommate, bunk bed, the whole ordeal. When you first get here, you'll be at the "600's", which kinda suck dick, hot water is iffy and the dorm rooms are smaller. Depending on your language, you'll eventually get moved to the "800's", Dorms there are bigger, nicer, you actually get hot water and sometimes even a kitchen. Once classes start is where the real fun begins. Wake up, morning formation at like 645. Be at class at 755, class all day until 3 or 4ish. From there, 3 days a week you'll have PT right after class. Then dinner, find time to shower, spend the rest of the night studying/jacking around. Rinse and repeat.
>>41750234I watched the full hour-or-so video that that is from. Serious question, how the fuck did you Marines understand your drill instructors? I could understand maybe 40% of what they were saying, especially during the processing part. Most of it sounded like>youwlussdpbupdpptsumbdssa, aye SIR!>AYE SIR!>crawbsassdastrambsty, do you understand?>YES SIR!In fact this speech was pretty much the only part where I could understand what the guy was saying. I know they're going for the whole fog-of-war thing but I seriously don't understand how the recruits fresh off the bus are able to understand these guys.
>>41745078>>41750414So it depends on squadron and shit, but yeah. If you get above a 90 you don't have to attend mando PT for a year (until your next official PT test). You still have to maintain above a 90 because they'll do quarterly "appraisals" which is like an unofficial PT Test. DLI won't accept your results from basic btw, so you have to do your PT test here and get above a 90 and then they'll allow you to get out of mandatory PT. But again, different squadrons do things differently. Like I don't think the 311th (all non-asian language linguists), can test out of PT until Phase 3. SO YES. You CAN test out of PT, but like a lot of things, it depends on leadership/squadron and it's really overly complicated. So far, DLI in general (especially Chinese) is honestly pretty easy AS LONG AS YOU DON'T SPEND ALL YOUR FREE TIME JERKING OFF IN THE DORMS. Like literally if you take time to actually study and do the homework, it all comes pretty natural. I think that's pretty much it. To sum it up perfectly, the superintendent of the Chinese department told us that we have the highest washout rate of the languages, at like 55% or so. But he said that in reality, only about 5-10% of that is for academic reasons. It's usually just that people fuck around and don't take it seriously and end up failing out or getting in trouble. The Chinese department also has the bonus of being one of the biggest and oldest departments so at this point they basically have it down to a science. Chinese students on average perform the best and have the best scores by the time we graduate.
how do i be one of those guys on top of the aircraft carrier near where the planes land and shit
>>41750336>civilian police departments hate MPs coming inIt's true, especially when you consider that MPs/MAs/Security Forces resemble the nighttime security guy at your local office park than a police officer. I didn't believe it when I heard it at first either.>>41750524>step 1 pick aviation rate>there is no step 2
>>41749083Original anon, was planning on sigint, thanks for the confirmation.
>>41750502Thanks for the info anon, someone in one of the previous threads said that the high washout rate at DLI had a lot to do with it having a lot of 18/19 year olds who are away from home for the first time and it sounded pretty spot-on. I'm from the Bay Area and used to go to Monterey frequently so it's not some exciting study-abroad-esque thing for me, plus I don't drink. Just gonna take it seriously and do what I can.I did 141 DLAB and a friend told me that basically "dooms" me to Korean or Chinese, which I'm fine with cause I would have wanted one of those anyway. I've heard the Korean schoolhouse is brutal though.
>>41750611Yeah as far as I can tell that's pretty much it. A lot of these kids it's like high school too, everyone has "crushes" and rush into relationships, go out drinking etc. Leads to problems especially when the expectation is that you spend a majority of your freetime studying. It's a really nice area, I like it, but you have to have the discipline to be able to push yourself to study, which not a lot of people are used to.I wouldn't say your score "dooms" you to get any language. Most of the highest DLAB scores we shipped here with were in Russian. It literally just depends on timing. Air Force not gonna give you Korean/Chinese if there's not a class starting like 2 months after you graduate BMT. Nobody out of like 100 airmen got Korean because the next class wasn't starting for another month or two. Everyone in our week group got Chinese, Russian, a couple got Spanish, Pashto, Arabic, stuff like that. I really don't think DLAB matters. I've heard rumors that the higher your score is, the more likely they'll give you the language you want when you rank them. But at the end of the day, needs of the air force. I hear Korean/Chinese are tied for brutality and washout rates. But like I said, as long as you do what you're supposed to, it's not too bad. Literally the only stressful part about this so far is the fact that PT is right after class, they give you like 30 minutes to change and get there, which would normally but fine, besides the fact that the asian department is on the whole other side of the base and the bus system sucks dick.Literally the only stressful part about this so far is wondering if I'll be late to PT or not.
>>41750119From my understanding it's one of the more desirable experiences. I'm not sure where you're getting a negative opinion of training for it from
>>41732054I'm interested in getting some wilderness maneuvering, navigation, survival, and tactical training, but I'm curious if there aren't comparable or better private programs available. What do you guys think?
>>41750417They say things understandably a few times, and then proceed to amalgamate words like that every time after. It just saves time because it sounds like the same shit theyve been saying for the past 7 weeks, and nothing changes. Sometimes, especially when it's very chaotic, you'll hear them repeat things slowly when they see people legitimately dont know what the fuck they're saying."Maipaksonlinreadymov"[Frantic, and confused movement]"(They didn't fucking understand me)Okaaay, we want to play games?""(What did you fucking say!?)No, sir.""Okay, MAIN PACKS ON LINE. READYMOVE"
>>41750720Can you pack pt gear in your backpack?
>>41751081SERE is the best you're gonna get. You could even be a CCT cool guy
>>41751219>You could even be a CCT cool guyI don't think they'll let me do that. I'm prior service, so I doubt I can get into the Air Force.
>>41751232>so I doubt I can get into the Air Force.depends on your career AFSOC is aggressively recruiting now
>>41744367What your the guy was talking about is called "branch detail". Basically, you do a LT time in a branch that needs a lot of LTs (like Infantry but there are others) then go into another branch with a less narrow rank structure (e.g. Intel) when you hit Captain. The important part is that this is all negotiated beforehand and happens automatically. You can get waivers to prevent it if you want to stay in the branch where you served as an LT but it's absolutely no guarantee. Obviously if you have no plans to stay in past your initial obligation you can just take this deal and never have to deal with the branch transfer process.I do not know the availability or administrative mechanics of doing branch details through OCS but I know it is possible. An officer recruiter should be able to tell you.>I could potentially try both infantry and intel in one year.No, that won't happen. You do LT time (3-4 years) in one branch, then go to another on a predetermined schedule unless you really dig in and fight the transfer, although there are other branches you can transfer into to. Transfer after a year is out of the question, in many fields you'll barely have made it to your first unit after a year.>hows life as an infantry officer?Your entire life will be dedicated to passing Ranger School. If, for any reason, you have the misfortune to report to your first unit without a Ranger tab, you will be the battalion's bitch until you manage to go back and get one. As far as being an officer, as a LT you'll be in charge of a platoon of about ~40 soldiers, the job is basically what it says on the tin. You will probably spend quite a bit of time in the field. Despite what you might think, infantrymen are generally less retarded and get in trouble less often than pogues, especially dumb pogues like cooks and clerks -- discipline is tighter.
>>41751232The Air Force is literally offering blowjobs to people to get them to fill CCT, PJ, TACP, SERE, and SOWT (not sure if it's been renamed yet). They are having a hilariously difficult time filling those jobs because, unlike shit like Mx and Security Forces, they can't force people into it.
>>41744827For Marine officers, the "every Marine a rifleman" stuff comes from a course called The Basic School (TBS), which is several months long. Yes, you will actually learn and be assessed on small unit tactics, in fact (unless your contract says otherwise) TBS is where Marine officers are assigned career fields.Army officer training is more branch specific. If you're in a non-combat field, you'll only receive cursory training tactical training.
>>41748647It's a pretty good career field even not taking into account that it's a huge growth area.
>>41751406>SOWT (not sure if it's been renamed yet)yup its been renamed as Special Recon since April
>>41751205Yes and it's basically a requirement for Chinese students to do so. We even have a special clause that generally allows us to change into our PTgear in the bathrooms during the last break between classes, that way when classes are out you can rush straight to the bus stop or just run straight to PT. (it's still up to the teachers discretion though. But yeah that's the most stressful part of DLI so far, which isn't saying a whole lot desu.
>Already studied abroad in Japan twice>This will have no effect on my chances at getting deployed to Japan
>>41751406>>41751269I've got experience in sat comms, a great asvab score, and I just turned 30. Do you think they'd still take me?
>>41751484doesn't hurt to try, especially considering TACP max age is 39
how much a percentage would you say girls in the armed forces are sluts
So I went to a navy recruiting officeNeed to lose a few pounds(about 5 or so) but I'm scheduled to take the asvab on Wednesday. Practice score was around 60Did heavy researching and was honestly losing sleep over air force or navy but the biggest factor for me was the traveling , I would love to stay home as well especially since nellis air force is literally some 20 miles north of where i live but truthfully from one weeb friend to another i have a higher chance of landing in japan in navy than with air force but beside that.From friends that served in the navy(5) , AF(3) and one from the army the general consensus I got wasAF has better quality of life but navy has better cities to be stationed in Nervous? YesYour thoughts /meps/?
>>41751602>AF has better quality of lifethis a huge meme, it mostly depends on your career and where you get stationed
>>41751636Not him but how would you rank Coast Guard quality of life? I understand it has the highest reenlistment rate but how is the barracks if you're E2-E3? Also how shitty are the boats you'll be sleeping in because you don't have BAH?
>>41751670I've never been in the CG, but usually the smaller branches have better quality simply due to their size, shit gets done quicker when you don't have to go through a thousand channels
What happens when you find a gf and slowly start to actually love her enough to consider marriage. What do you do? Asking for a friend
>>41751776>get out of the military>get a real job that actually pays >put a ring on her>do hubby and wifey stuff>breed her with your seed>whatever else you want I don't actually know what your question was
>>41751776dont enlist thats for sure. or do national guard/reserves
>>41751819>>41751982How about you two mouth breathers don't tell me how to live my fucking life?
>>41751992What state do you live in? I want to fight you. I'm not either of those dudes but I just think you're a faggot that needs to be put in his place. I'll meet up with you if you're nearby.
Today I found out that the the US Army has fixed winged aircraft. Anyone here have street to seat experience
>>41751992>What do you do?>don't tell me how to live my lifeYou're either a different poster or crazy
>>41751483Welcome to the military, son
>>41751517Idk anon, what do you think?
Anyone have any personal insight into TACP, or SOF TACP?
>>41732054i am allergic to bees, is that a no go to get into infantry?
>>41752848Only if they find out. Sneak some barbed wire gloves out to the field to crush bees to death. They are issued.
>>41752042Lol army air = helicopters or reservist turd with no inbetween.
>>41749145What hes probably talking about is MECEP or whatever, where you rate the chance to commission from enlisted after certain time in service.If you want to fly choppers, youll need a bachelors and a commission IIRC. Idk anything about being a cop.
>>41749140You will get hazed regardless. Just dont tel annybody you are gay and youll get hazed lessT. Homo
>>41748562USMC, try to get drill instructor as your SDA. If you perform well enough you can become a drill master, but most folks are lucky (or only willing) to do their 3 years then get the fuck out of that hellhole.
>>41751602If you want to travel then join the Navy. QOL is better in Air Force but I don't think you're gonna care about DFAC>galley when you get stuck fixing planes in Dover, Delaware while your sailor bros are doing swim call in the Persian Gulf
>>41752967>Lol army air = helicopters or reservist turd with no inbetween.155E is an active mos
>>41753768So is usmc combat artist. You wont get it.
Need a bit of advice /k/, genuine newfag here that's debating if he should do college and then the military. I figured I might as well go to my local community college and do my 2 years of gen ed and then go into the military(U.S Army) to see if i could get any decent MOS's that you couldn't get without prior qualification or at least a shiny degree. Though at the same time, I want to do something combat related directly. I couldn't stand sitting in an office all day dealing with bootfuck retards, i'd rather be out in the field. Is it really worth being a dumb college kid for 2 years just to do a combat job or should I just go into the army now and do what i wanna do which will probably be something like 11b or 13E/13B.
>>41753896join the Guard and do both at the same time
>>41753905Not really interested in the guard since I've heard a lot of bad stuff about them, also doesn't seem like something i'd personally enjoy which would make it pointless to join anyway. And aren't there programs to do college in the Army way down the line anyway?
>>41753896Join now, it's sort of silly if you know you want to join to do some college and then enlist. Something could happen to you in two years that would DQ you from enlisting, you're paying money instead of just going to an actual college on the GI bill on the back end, your college credits probably won't help you out much either when picking jobs or in the Army. If you want to do college first, then go a commissioning route, that's a good plan. But I think you're wasting time if you just do a bit of college and then join.>>41753913Green to Gold is what you're thinking of, it's not that easy to get and you're devoting a pretty serious chunk of your life to it. You'd be looking at a 4-year enlistment contract, two years of college (IF you get into the G2G program, which isn't a given), commission, and then IIRC a four-year obligation as an officer. Ten fucking years man.
>>41750336have you tried just asking an LEOs about this?
>>41753913>programs to do collegeusing tuition assistance, the "full pace" allowed for service members is half of that of a real college student and you will spend your full year's budget if you go any faster anyway.so regarding tuition assistance, it is great, but you are going to take a long time to get a full degree off of it and your full degree will probably be online only which you need to be careful of what school and program you do that with.
generally speaking, in terms of training, job availability, transferable skills to the civilian world and quality of living who has it better, the marines or the army?I chose the Army but there is a part of me that thinks the marines would have been cooler. Im also going through the OCS program with the goal of getting into SOF units. Since the marines are mostly infantry, would I have stood a better chance of getting into Recon/Marsoc instead of Ranger? Would there have been more spots for infantry officer and less POG officer jobs to fill?
>>41754218>would I have stood a better chance of getting into Recon/Marsoc instead of Ranger?You'd have a better chance of going Ranger, simply do the size difference of the Army and the Marines
>>41750336>Was told civilian police hate it because they have to untrain all the military law stuff.because the military doesn't generalize every situation as citizen police do>Also do I want to mention my bf is an army NCO or would this cause me a ton of trouble?No.You may want to look to joining a Federal police agency because they love military training of any kind
I know this is mostly dedicated to the US, but does anyone have experience with the Philippine Armed Forces?
tried offing myself at 16, got bpd and depression diagnosis bc of it. 21 now been stable af looking to join. from reading around here, i can join by just lying my ass off and never disclosing jack shit? btw have no medication / have no need for it so i wont be fiending for anything if i can and do get in
I'm an out of shape fatbody. If shit with Iran starts now would I drafted in?
>>41754717>If shit with Iran starts now would I drafted in?no, I doubt shits going down with Iran, also that tanker most likely ran into a mine
>>41751992Someone's gonna fuck your girl whether you know when it happens or not
>>41754375No as in? What?
>>41754717Are you retarded? Nobody is going to get drafted. Stay fat and pay your fucking taxes, civilian
>>41754218army has better training, job availability and opportunities, and it's easier for a soldier to hop into the civilian realm in a similar job than a marine due to culture differences.QoL is easily army but army has plenty of really shit places too.marine corps offers some brotherhood stuff and cares a lot more about your PT scores. but none of that helps you once you get out.>marines are mostly infantryno. marine is just the biggest occfield in the corps. marines are not mostly infantry and most of its leadership aren't either.>more spots for infantry officerno. fewer. and it's quite competitive because why the fuck do you think most people join the marines, even as officers? you think people who want to be marine officers want to run a supply warehouse or be a marine intel officer? >reconidk how it is for officers but for enlisted you can try out for it if you're hot shit and get command approval. plenty of guys go straight into it but the vast majority fail.>marsocmarsoc isn't as special as you think. it's a command. pogs go there too to support the mission. they just operate a bit differently. i've known plenty of siginters go to marsoc to support them in that role.however it seems way easier, as an outsider looking in, for someone to go ranger vs recon or marsoc just due to the sheer size. it really sounds like as long as you do your side of things, you can get a tab in the army. in the marines they say semper gumby for a reason, and it's because you're more often than not at the whim of the corps.unironically go army.
>>41754717they try very hard to avoid the draft now and have set up a lot of pools of bodies to avoid it. so no.they will pull from prior service on IRR before they get to that point and there's a lot of them atm.
>>41754645whats bpd?yeah you could say you're good to go but i mean..are you really? the military is not a fun place 99% of the time. i can only speak for the marines but pretty much everyone in the marines knows someone who's tried to kill themselves and is a barely functioning alcoholic. and it's because life sucks most of the time.im sure the army and navy are similar in terms of everyone knows someone who's tried to off themselves. so don't go in thinking life will be fun, but yeah you could lie your way through the process.but if you're still a sad sack in any way, save yourself the trouble because you will be miserable and when you indicate you may hurt yourself life gets even more miserable because they will watch you 24/7 until they get rid of you.
>>41755161I take it you were a marine then?
>>41755225so the corps is really that bad huh? I mean, I know every branch of the military is going to be shit in some way but when you get past all the devil dawg hype everyone ive spoken with says the marines are the worst but a wide, unforgivable margin. I still find myself infatuated with the notoriety though
>>41751670 >I understand it has the highest reenlistment rate This is actually a lot of deception on the part of the Coast Guard, since you have to extend your contract or re-enlist to attend the majority of A-schools.
>>41755372While that's true I've literally never heard of someone disliking the Coast Guard. I've been told that you'll either do 8 years or 20.
>>41732054Man, I wish I was American.The military really don't pay shit here. When I look at how much I earn every month, I realize that the life of a nigger in Africa really isn't worth shit.
>>41755402Join the FFL
>>41755402You are correct, but keep in mind bills run high in the US. Some areas have 1800 usd rent. You gotta learn to play the system a bit.
>>41755161>Army grunts have better jobs as civiliansLol no. Doing what, running to get more coffee?
>>41754793Yes two tankers just happened to bump into mines in the middle of a straight. >>41754645Yup just stick with your story.
>>41755182its bipolar disorder and i can tell i still have it, I just dont feel like suicide is an option for me any more. and I dont suffer from stress, i suffer from a lack of general direction and feeling like i wasted my first 21 years of my life, ive actually always done much better in life when i feel like what im doing has a real purpose. im at a call center and it sucks fucking balls. I have a degree for christs sake ! on top of that i plan on Airforce and ive heard the QOL is better for it compared to the rest. So, is there any way MEPS is gonna pull up my hospital visits back in 2013?
>>41755566No, they can’t pull your med records even though they will 100% tell you they can at least 20 times. Air Force is a good choice for you. Bmt is going to fuck with your head, and Air Force bmt is the easiest. You need the greatest chance of getting past your indoctrination stage you can find. After that, your stress should go way down. Just don’t go to medical or skip any events
>>41742698It's called a Tic dawg.
>>41755693Thank you so much, this is some of the greatest news ive ever heard honestly i was crushed hearing i couldnt do it bc of my past
How do I get speed tracked to scout sniper in the usmc? My recruiter is offering to put me in contact with a scout sniper near us, but I have no idea what to ask.
>>41748781This guy is big stupid, go 35Q while you still can.You gon get shuttled to the dumbass 17C pilot program, or worse, get sent to a """""""""""""cyber tactical unit""""""""""". Go while 35Q is still 35NSA
Will meps find out if I was court ordered to seek mental health treatment?
>>41752601Pt is super athletic, like CrossFit tier stuff
>>41755522>1800USDBrother, that's starting to become normal. I come from a smaller city with a university and rent for a 2 bedroom is on average around 1500USD a month. 1 bedrooms are almost entirely Section 8 reserved or absolutely trashed to shit and still charge at least 900 a month. Most people join the military for college these days, but I joined for the BAH
Answering questions about the Navy for about an hour if anyone's got any
>>41755542>just happened to bump into mines in the middle of a straight.there is still unexploded ordinance in the atlantic and the pacific retard
>>41755005>No as in? What?you won't be in any trouble
>>41756619I read a lot of statements and testimony from sailors getting out about how fucked up the Navy is (even in this thread). Is it really "the worst time" to join? Also, is west coast actually the best coast, or is east coast just THAT bad?
>>41756717The Navy is no more fucked up than any other branch and is a lot better in many places. There are areas that could use a lot of improving, and the Navy also doesn't have one concrete force, so anyone's experience is extremely personal and could be entirely limited to their chain of command. 7th fleet has been brutally fistfucked for a very long time and is gradually getting better from what I've heard, but guys stationed around Guam have it pretty easygoing. The only good coast is the one you want, everywhere has its ups and downs for different people. Hawaii for example is a great place for people who love to dive, boat, outdoors shit in general, but if you're a /k/ommando owning guns is a hassle and buying them is even fucking worse. If you joined to see exotic places and weird shit, WC is great for it because all of Asia is foreign as fuck. On the flip side, Norfolk is a giant shithole of a base(and I mean fucking giant, the base is the size of a city), but Virginia is pretty decent for firearm laws last I checked. Appalachians have great innawoods spots to fuck around with, but as for diving and other shit the water's not as clear as it is in Pearl and you'll see less of it in general. European ports are dope as fuck, most people speak English and you don't look as completely out of place as me and my 6ft+ average division of Southern rednecks do anywhere in Asia.
redpill me on going to west point as lower enlisted
>>41756804Thanks for the reply man, you've definitely improved my spirits! I'm waiting for my date to ship off and I have my fingers crossed on ending up in San Diego after training is all over.
>>41756859What rate are you going as? I assume your recruiter has already given you the boot camp tips and the big do's and don'ts?
>>41756874SNA, so some of the basic training stuff applies but then there is the OCS specific material. I've been going through Appendix B flashcards and working on hitting excellent high PRT standards. Any tips you could add?
>>41756900Fuck me that's a long training cycle. If you're hitting solid PRT standards and working on your material you're already golden, just do as you're told, how you're told to do it, when you're told to do it. I honestly don't know shit about OCS aside from it being officer boot camp, but NAS Pensacola ain't a bad place while you're there. Big takeaway about flying that a pilot buddy of mine told me for anyone going through the schooling, don't have your mind 100% set towards one airframe because you'll be disappointed 9 times out of 10. Just enjoy flying itself and you're set. Oh, don't be one of those dickheads who fucks around town in your uniform thinking you're hot shit, you'll usually just look like a jackass. That goes for enlisted and officer sides. Good luck my man.
>>41756981I'll keep your advice in mind. I'm not a show off and I don't want to build a negative reputation, especially considering I'll basically be in for a decade at the minimum. I'm okay with any airframe, and would actually prefer not to get jets, so getting my least favorite option would be an opportunity most people join up for (unless I get really unlucky and end up in a Greyhound or MH-53). Thank you again!
>>41756514MEPs might. Your security clearance investigator will. What treatment, anon?
Enlisting into the AF soon. Was diagnosed with MDD after my cat died. Think the real issue is minor social anxiety which my therapist diagnosed recently. Obv not disclosing that info. I'm wondering if I should avoid TS jobs tho because of that. I'm really interested in some of those :/
I should be more clear. Will the TS background investigators find that info out or will they check medical records? Should I be honest about it after MEPS?
So I have my initial MEPS physical next Friday. Would anyone here be willing to type up everything that they do to you? I just want to know what to expect. I'll only be doing the medical stuff, I won't be taking the ASVAB(already took the AFOQT, I'm wanting to be an officer)
>>41757280Cringe. If you end up on my boat we're going to jump you and tape a cannonball to your hands before throwing you overboard.
>>41757293>boatDon't worry, I'm going AF
>>41757308Cringe. If you end up on my airframe we're going to jump you and sabotage your ejection seat so you fly before falling to your death.
>>41757293What's cringe about the request?
>>41757321You'll piss while someone watches, along with a couple other guys with no privacy dividers at the urinals. They'll take your blood, do a vision test, inspect your ears, then you'll do a physical where you strip down to your undies and do a bunch of weird positions(the duck walk is what people remember for whatever reason), and then they fondle your balls and finger your asshole(no homo)
>>41757293>>41757301>says he took the AIR FORCE officer qualification test>'what branch????'
>>41757437>You'll piss while someone watches, along with a couple other guys with no privacy dividers at the urinals. They'll take your blood, do a vision test, inspect your ears, then you'll do a physical where you strip down to your undies and do a bunch of weird positions(the duck walk is what people remember for whatever reason), and then they fondle your balls and finger your asshole(no homo)Sounds like 20 minutes worth of activities, but my recruiter said to be prepared to spend like 6 hours there. Do you have to wait an hour between each test or something?
>>41757495Like I fucking know every acronym every branch uses >>41757516Yeah essentially, it's like an hour overall of YOUR time but you'll be there with like 80 people depending on the size of the station. As the day goes by you'll see more and more people dwindle out as they get DQ'd and sent home for various reasons.
>>41755271you join the marines to be a marine. everything else has to be secondary or you won't want to stick around.so if you don't drink the koolaid then it's not for you. unfortunately you can't really know if you'll like it without doing it, but overall promotions are slower, gear is worse, training has a smaller budget, and you're at the whim of the corps in everything you do. the only real time you get to be an individual is on your first reenlistment you can fight for stuff you want to get you to reenlist, but then it's back to business as usual.the shitty parts aren't having to do PT and stuff, it's just putting up with more bullshit and getting less at the same time.
>>41755535how about you be less of a retard and understand my point there.which was that as a marine, even in a completely translatable MOS to the civ world, you still have the whole culture that you need to step outside of and the corps is huge on that culture.read between the lines but also fuck off.
>>41757143My family made me go to a psych ward because they thought i might be suicidal when i honestly am not suicidal at all and while there the doctors took me to court to forcibly get treatment.Does it help that there were no criminal charges to go with it? How would they find out?
>>41757592Also to add i was sentenced by a commisioner not a judge
>>41756117afaik the fastest route is when you're in ITB right after bootcamp, if you're hot shit you can go but I may be wrong on that.i know guys can finaggle it during their first contract, absolutely, but that's it. all of them were excellent shots before attending the school and had solid PT scores beforehand. the corps can teach you how to shoot, but you can work on your fitness before then and should so you're running a 1st class PFT from day 1.don't go buy a gun just to become a leet sniper.
What are the chances that my things are going to be stolen in Army Basic training?
>>41757650pretty highsecure it or lose it
>>41757650what things would they steal that are actually yours?don't bring anything valuable to basic, for a start because that's retarded.
>>41757658>>41757684Like personal clothing (Shirt,Underwear,) or hygiene things (Shampoo,Soap)
>>41757650There are niggas that will steal a nigga's underwear if it don't got a name on itSHARPIE YOUR SHIT
>>41757739Why trust others?
>>41757739don't leave it in the latrine if you're not there and lock your stuff up when you're not around.
>>41757637Lol i quit smoking weed a while ago but my past use probably didnt help
Can I enlist with braces?
>>41757789what are you 14?
>>41757855no, but i was poor when i was 14
>>41757217you have to quote who you are talking toOnce you have your story you have to stick with it forever
>>41757789no they have to come off and be off for a period of time, go ask in the reddit air force if you are going to ask such kiddy questions
>>41758120>Reddit air ForceIs that the equivalent of weenie hut jr?
>>41758179>making references to american kids shows on a patrician korean anime website
Wouldn't let me in cause I smoked a joint at a party before basic.Meanwhile a tranny and a faggot is allowed in
>>41758311maybe because you're braindead and smoked pot right before joining an organization that explicitly does not allow smoking pot
navy intel here if anyone has questions
>>41758323Kind of like the braindeads that cut their dicks off and think they're women before joining an organization that explicitly does not mental illness
>>41757739just lock your shit up. i wasnt army but id be surprised if people were stealing your clothes and shit. it should be locked up unless you're actively rummaging through it anyway
>>41758311they wouldn't let you in ebcause you're a retard, actually.anyone who does that made their own bed.also as of right now, trannies aren't allowed in. no one cares about faggots being in unless they're the stereotypical gay guy, in which case they get bulled into getting out for being so insufferable.get over yourself faggot
>>41758418>when the actual United States Navy announces it is monitoring this threadholy shit
>>41758465just wanna possibly help some aspiring shipmates :)
>>41758311You cant follow orders retard
>>41758648This. Why try to join if you can't even follow the most basic of instructions?
>be infantryman in the us army>trusted to operate 30 ton death machine, 25mm chain guns, high explosives, and other dangerous stuff with only my fellow lower enlisted retards to supervise>not trusted to keep a crock pot in the barracksexplain this
>>41758427Confused isnt the same as stupid. They're confused. You're stupid
>>41758871I'm taking a hit and blowing it into your girlfriend's mouth
>>41758903I don't give a shit as long as you don't tell my wife. I don't need that bitch looking for me.
>>41758835Put yourself in your first sausages' shoes. Would YOU want to write a letter to a grieving family about how their young boy killed himself with a crock pot? Death in training is a tragedy, and tragedy makes for good literature. Embarrassing deaths affect the entire branch.
>>41758465These threads are started by that 350F dude. The military keenly watches these things because they are trying to shape up their poorly disheveled recruiting regimens.
>>41759161I mean, I started this one
>>41759161They are literally scraping from the bottom of the barrel. Almost of the people in here have some kind of mental or neurological disorder or a physical deformity. If not then they've been arrested for snorting cocaine off a hooker's ass, and the hooker was their sister.
>>41759325Don't forget plebbit retards who can't get a straight answer on that cancer site
>>41759325>le 4chan is a den of evil reddit told me so
>>41759147you fool. it's because if somehow the barracks burnt down they'd have no where to put a lot of soldiers, lost at least 1 whole building, and all of the gear inside of it.who cares if some dude burns himself up? it's about the government issued everything else!
>>41759325i wish i could snort cocaine off my sister's tight fit yoga butt
>>41759161>>41759218wait does 350f anon start these? i figured it was someone else lately, due to the editions. i dont think 350f is a weeb but...you never know around here.not that there's anything wrong with that.